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UHHH MARRY CHRISTMAS WOOOOO SORRY IF THIS LOOKS WEIRD I HAD TO RUSH BEFORE I LOST INTEREST 🎅🎅🎄🎄🎄
#Christmas mcu#nashuri#namuri#black panther wakanda forever#yo let them celebrate Christmas together :(#shuri x namor#namor x shuri#shuri and namor#shuri and namor be vibing#Christmas au
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Letitia Wright & Tenoch Huerta aka literal fur babies
Bonus:
Insp
#Tish definitely gives me cat vibes (outside of being bp) and Tenoch has major puppy/doggo energy 1000%#tenoch huerta#letitia wright#shuri#namor#nashuri#bpwf#wakanda forever#black panther#seaprincess#Tenitia#lupita nyong'o#puppies#cats#animals#what type of dog do you think Tenoch is ?#what type of cat is Tish?#or do you think they are completely different animals?#I feel like irl they are probably SUPER opposites but some how they just vibe?#like….like a cat and dog#someone take my phone away
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Going feral unhinged here at this fanfic idea I’ll probably never write but
Time travel Namor x Shuri story in which they somehow both come back at some point before T’Challa’s death and Namor gives her the bracelet immediately, knowing that she’ll use it to make the heart-shaped herb
And then Shuri has to sit with her feelings about the fact that he just gave her back her brother
Nothing will ever erase the fact he once took her mother but
He gave her back her brother
Something something romance and forgiveness I guess you know how stories go
#nashuri#namor x shuri#fanfic idea#if I were to write it I would probably merge it with my OTHER time travel ide#idea#where they come back to the point just after Killmonger took the throne#and they’re in the mountains#and Namor would show up like hey whats up I went to the capital looking for you but there’s a dude with bad vibes there#want me to kill him for you#and everybody around would be like#WHOMST the fuck are you#meanwhile Shuri is like dont look at me i look like a baby#also no he’s my cousin and this is an internal matter to wakanda dont make it worse
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Can’t Stay Away’s Fic Rec Friday #2 (04.28.23) - The Summoning of K'uk'ulkan by La Maripoza
Title: The Summoning of K'uk'ulkan (ao3) |
Author(s): La_Maripoza (ao3) | @La_Maripoza3 (Twitter)
Fandom(s): Black Panther Wakanda Forever
Pairing/Ship(s): Nashuri (Namor x Shuri)
Type: AU | Canon Divergent
Rating: Explicit
Status: Unfinished
Updated: 04.03.23
*I couldn’t find the author on Tumblr, please message me or tag them if you are familiar with them.
Summary: Two hundred years ago, King Yima of Wakanda failed to pay the price for summoning the Feathered Serpent God. Now, whilst Wakanda sustains an international attack, Princess Shuri of Wakanda must summon the God and pay whatever toll he requests.
Why I Love It: The Spirited Away vibes ALONE! But also, the true emphasis on how ancient Namor, K'uk'ulkan, the Feathered Serpent God truly is. I love shit like this. Exploring the many ways in which something mythical and powerful can exist within the body of a man. Is it one being, or three? A man, king, a feathered serpent, a god? If there is one person who can surf the volatile waves of this being’s mercurial nature, it’s Shuri, the genius princess. It’s a cat and mouse game, but who is the cat?
I’m invested and really want to see where this thing is going. The fun thing about this, is seeing if you can guess which personality of Namor’s is which, and at what time when he’s toying with the Princess. And are we, as the readers, on the same page as Shuri?
#ficrecfriday#csaficrecfriday#fanfiction#fiction recommendation#fic rec friday#fic rec#can't stay away's fic rec friday#nashuri#namor x shuri#shuri x namor#black panther#wakanda forever#bpwk#ao3#tenoch huerta#letitia wright#the summoning of k’uk’ulkan#spirited away vibes#la maripoza#042823#april 28 2023
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I just need to hear a little more than that he appreciates them as performers. What are you going to do with their characters after the carefully crafted arcs they have come from under Ryan's thoughtful management? We're far out yet, and I'll wait. But I'm paying attention because if they mess it up I maaaay actually have to stop fffing with the MCU.
Don’t let the white man scare you off! Jeff loveness confirmed that Letitia will be in Kang Dynasty!!!
It’s coming out in 2025!
Twitter: @Wandasattorney sent by: @aswrittenbybri
#dramatic but the current vibe#don't mess Shuri up#don't mess Namor up#and don't ruin Kang either for that matter
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You know what's a really similar ship to Ghoulcy now that I think about it? Shuri/Namor. Like there's actually a surprising amount of similarities between both:
Older Man/Younger Woman dynamic, with the Older Man being around for a while and being the living oldest of his species
They have an antagonistic/uneasy relationship
She has a dark side, one that he sees and pushes
He holds her hostage for some time and they have a talk where he points out the similarities between them
They get into a physical alteration and she rips of his appendage(s)
He has an eye for an eye mentality, which means he gets back in blood
There's a moment where he's at his most vulnerable and she could kill him but she chooses not to and pointedly saves his life with something he desperately needs
She also gives a speech where she says she won't be like him
They go from enemies to reluctant allies at the end
Me and the Devil walking side by side vibes
#like holy shit the more i compare them#the more i realize it's basically the same ship 😭#like huh damn#even with the whole ghoulcy being wasteland royalty#and shuri and namor being actual royalty#the math is the same i fear#ghoulcy#vaultghoul#lucy x cooper#lucy x the ghoul#cooper x lucy#the ghoul x lucy#lucy maclean#the ghoul#cooper howard#nashuri#namor x shuri#shuri x namor#shuri#princess shuri#namor#fallout#fallout show#black panther#black panther wakanda forever
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You know I know some people aren't into Phase 4 but I've lowkey (and sometimes highkey) enjoyed all the films. With the exclusion of Thor: Love & Thunder. Like the Eternals, Black Widow and Wakanda Forever are all top tier for me.
Plus, they have gave me me my first legit Marvel Ships. And not only are they my first Marvel ships they are the first new fandom ship in like 5 years.
Drukkari is just the actual sweetest. Like I know I was supposed to be feel something about Sersei and Ikaris but the chemistry wasn't there for me. But, the one word change from 'My beautiful Makkari" to 'my beautiful, beautiful Makkari. My heart skipped a beat. The anguish that Makkari showed when she thought she lost Druig? Her relief seeing him? Amazing love story in like 3 min.
And frankly there is too much to say about Namor and Shuri. Like they are both mirrors to each other. Enemies but Namor is offering exactly what she wants. They're now forever tied together. Like the tweet that convinced me it's practically a fairytale/myth.
Very different ship dynamics b/c friends to lovers vs starcrossed enemies to lovers have different vibes but both couples souls are knit to each other. They've met their match.
Now I need someone, somehow to give me Eternals x Black Panther crossover w/ my babes. Or at least Makkari. Like I just know in my heart of hearts my girl had to have swiped something from Wakanda or Talokan. Also, I feel like Phastos would have loved Wakanda during the current era. I hope he got to vacay there or something.
Shout out to both Ryan and Chloe and their vision. B/c it took me a decade of Marvel content to get interested in a ship.
Also, I hope that Ryan has sent Chloe that 4 hr movie he shot. Just as a professional courtesy and a fellow Nashuri shipper. Like she deserves it.
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Also, Makkari and Shuri are both that girl. I love them so so much.
#phase 4#eternals#black panther#nashuri#namuri#drukkari#makkari#phastos#chloe zhao#ryan coogler#seaprincess#namor x shuri#shuri x namor#makkari x druig#druig x makkari
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darlings! i hope your year was great, filled with love, fun and joy. if it wasn’t my heart goes out to you and i hope the new year treats you with nothing but kindness. i’m sending you love and magical vibes.
i missed the last four months of my monthly fic recs, so instead of making a dozen different posts i’m just going to combine it with an end of the year post: aka i’m lazy lmao.
but shoutout to every writer on these lists, not on these lists, who are on tumblr but don’t post, you are amazing and you sharing your beautiful talent with us (or with just yourself) is literally a gift and the community would be in shambles without you!!!!
please never feel under appreciated because i am your number one fan. you bring light to many and fill a fandom void we all crave and enjoy diving into to shut out the real world. you’ve made this year better, funner, and immensely tolerable.
you are all loved and adored, keep writing, keeping sharing those beautiful ideas. i hope to find more amazing works from writers both on and not on this list in the new year. so here’s to it! may next year be kind to us all <3
18+ ONLY MINORS DNI with the works below. unless it’s stated otherwise. heed warnings and authors notes please.
✶ — honorable fav of the year mention!
IF I COULD INJECT THIS FIC INTO MY VEINS I WOULD
aka all the fics that have stuck with me throughout the entire year, the ones that have imbedded themselves to my frontal lobe and refuse to let go!
Pa'atení by neonheartbeat (namor x shuri)
Mercy, sabotage, and dead space by @no-droids (poe dameron)
Swallow you like sunshine when i smile by @rae-gar-targaryen (mickey garcia)
Interdickt by @laters-gators (santiago garcia)
I’ve got you darlin by @psychedelic-ink (moonknight + din djarin)
Flamingo king by @onsunnyside (ari levinson)
Inforgetting by @boxofbonesfic (spiderman)
CHRIS EVANS
Plan B by @slyyywriting (ari levinson + andy barber)
Wicked games by @honeystevie (steve rogers)
Rumination by @/boxofbonesfic (steve rogers)
Free use by @bonkywobble (dark!steve rogers)
Discipline me by @maladaptivexxdaydreaming (andy barber) ✶
The exhibit by @/boxofbonesfic (lloyd hansen)
I'll cry if i want to by @honeybloomss (ari levinson)
A big mistake by @straywords (steve rogers)
Walking the wire by @pedrito-friskito (nomaed!steve rogers)
Puppet on a string by @/psychedelic-ink (ransom drysdale)
HOUSE OF THE DRAGON
But you're pretty when you're mine by @charnelhouse (daemon x rhaenyra)
Wrath of the dragon by @/straywords (daemon targaryen)
Untitled by @/charnelhouse (harwin strong)
He finds you by @targaryenvampireslayer (daemon + harwin)
Breeding kink by @someplace-darker (harwin strong)
Burn by @laters-gators (daemon targaryen)
Tinsel by @authurials (daemon targaryen) ✶
Discretion by @revolution-starter (aemond targaryen)
MARVEL
Unknown by @/psychedelic-ink (doctor strange)
Untitled by @/bonkywobble (thor odinson)
Praise kink by @atomwritez (gilgamesh) ✶
Untitled by @sarahscribbles (loki laufeyson)
Over the moon by @moonlight-prose ( joaquín torres)
Waves of love by @/maladaptivexxdaydreaming (namor)
Nothing compares by @wwinterwitch (namor)
Too much of him by @cumberstrange (namor)
Love, or lack there of by @/psychedelic-ink (namor)
Scorched earth by @allaboardthereadingrailroad (namor) ✶
His sacrificial offering by @wint3r-h3art (namor)
Protector, lover, fighter by @bakerstreethound (namor)
Mine by @javier-pena (wolverine) ✶
Continuum by @sunshinescribes (namor) ✶
I'm yours by @/psychedelic-ink (namor)
OSCAR ISAAC
Heavy in your arms by @/psychedelic-ink (marc spector)
Cerebral by @/laters-gators (nathan bateman)
A little tied up by @/laters-gators (marc spector)
Sleep tight by @/laters-gators (blue jones)
Home by @spacecowboyhotch (jonathan levy)
Twas the night by @dameronscopilot (santiago garcia) ✶
A sunday kind of love by @/moonlight-prose (marc spector) ✶
Devotion by @/moonlight-prose (marc spector)
Belong to you by @/moonlight-prose (marc + layla)
PEDRO PASCAL
Alien blues by @/psychedelic-ink (din djarin)
Broken sleep by @/psychedelic-ink (dave york)
My drug by @/psychedelic-ink (frankie morales + jack daniels)
A broken prince by @/psychedelic-ink (ezra)
First time by @autumnleaves1991-blog (oberyn martell)
Poison & wine by @/psychedelic-ink (din djarin + duke leto)
Touch by @/moonlight-prose (din djarin)
Untitled by @the-scandalorian (din djarin)
STRANGER THINGS
All mine by @littledemondani (eddie munson)
She's trouble by @wroteclassicaly (eddie munson)
Untitled by @/wroteclassicaly (eddie + steve)
Whole lotta love by @/authurials (eddie munson)
Thrill me, chill me, fulfill me by @oncasette (eddie munson)
TOP GUN
Take it easy by @/oncasette (hangman)
Worst Behavior by @/oncasette (rooster)
Breath play by @foli-vora (rooster)
Your name (on that coffee cup) by @rae-gar-targaryen (hangman) ✶
As blue as your taste (i taste the same) by @/rae-gar-targaryen (fanboy)
Untitled by @/oncasette (hangman) ✶
Do not disturb by @callsignvalley (hangman)
So deep in love with you (baby love) by @/rae-gar-targaryen (fanboy)
My cup runneth over by @/rae-gar-targaryen (fanboy)
Untitled by @/rae-gar-targaryen (fanboy)
Mi media naranja by @/rae-gar-targaryen (fanboy)
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Untitled by @angrythingstarlight (walter deville)
Throne by @preciouslandmermaid (morpheus)
First time by @stranger-nightmare (morpheus)
Thigh riding by @/stranger-nightmare (geralt)
Breeding kink by @xcatnapsx (kylo ren)
Those damned romantics by @/rae-gar-targaryen (ezekiel reyes)
Lazy sunday by @eupheme (charlie swan)
please do not spam like the works above, no one likes a spam liker. comments and reblogs are always the better way to show your appreciation to content creators.
if you would like me to remove your works within this list, for whatever reason, please let me know and i will kindly do so!
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👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 as somebody who thinks the ship wars are funny
(Longer read) It was extremely hard to find character takes without brainworms concerning Wakanda Forever in the thick of silly ship wars or character stanning, I'm not going to hold you. Each side had some level of misses going on. Everybody was too busy making another character a scapegoat or harping on about how good or bad a Shuri ship was. At best, a character seemed to be understood a little bit, but then diagnoses of other characters were woefully one-dimensional or mild mischaracterizations.
So anyway, I want to talk about it and give every character their grace.
Don't mistake me. It's not wrong to connect with one side more than the other. In a video interview, director and writer Ryan Coogler even stated it was written in a way that who you root for could change and depend on the day. He wanted both sides to be sympathetic, but never evil or wrong on all accounts. It was just a case of people trying to do the best they could with what they're dealing with. It was a story about grief and how it affected us. It also came with a layer of bipoc experience and colonialization.
It makes sense for you to follow Shuri and Wakanda as they are the protagonists. It is sensible to empathize with Talokan, too, given what we learned about them.
What drives me bonkers is completely spitting on the narrative, making it into something it never was. (If it doesn't apply let it fly!)
If some fans seemed to understand Namor, more than a comfortable number of times, it turned into oversympathization at the expenses of other characters and his own character development. They try downplaying Namor's canonically rough edges and faults while blaming Nakia or Ramonda.
It appeared that they understood Talokan's points, but suddenly, that same critical thinking or humane sympathy is in sparing doses for Wakanda (their sister nation).
I just think people need to remember that Namor is... Kind of an asshole in any canon. He was literally called that and arrogant by Ryan Coogler, which is what we have seen in Wakanda Forever.
Namor is a multi-faceted character. His motives are upright and just. He's not entirely a "villain." Everything he did in Wakanda Forever had a rhyme and reason. His actions were in response to something (e.g., Wakanda unknowingly jeopardizing Talokan's safety). No, Namor didn't want to hurt Shuri, nor did he view it as him killing her mother. Yes, he genuinely sought out kinship, support, and an alliance with her. Yes, it is true that he holds respect and admiration for Shuri and Wakanda (see Con La Brisa or Namor's first and lines just for three references).
At the same time, he had his missteps. His diplomacy skills (barring his first conversations with Shuri) sucked exponentially! Namor was difficult with Ramonda. He intruded and constantly tried to give orders, make demands, or give Wakanda ultimatum.
These things can co-exist. As Joe Robert Cole said, Namor wasn't wrong for what he felt or his objective. His point of view is comprehensible and valid, but the problem was his approach. Namor even admits how Shuri had every right to kill him to Namora, so yes, he is flawed and had fault.
If some fans seemed to sympathize heavily with Shuri, they oddly villified and outright misconstrue Namor as something "anti-black," an oppressor (pure insanity), or a purely villainous, evil finger twiddling mastermind who sought to manipulate her right from the start.
These are stupid reads that's blatantly non-canon, mind you. Ryan Coogler even debunked that. He stated that he wanted their scenes to read as intimate and legitimate human connection amongst people who mirror.
There is also the fact that, if anything, the only character that was to give the impression to being "fooled" was Namor.
I think people should also realize how Shuri was not at all ok (aka, her flaw). This is another thing Ryan Coogler stressed in an interview. Namor and Shuri were intentionally two sides to the same coin. The pain one had was reflected in the other. Shuri was paralleling Namor in his thirst for retribution and destructive grief, but the difference is that she stopped herself from crossing the point of no return as he did, while offering her hand to pull him back.
"Vengance has consumed us. We cannot let it consume our people." Shuri wouldn't have said that for no reason.
There is an important point behind Shuri and Namor resonating with one another. Attempting to erode the connection they kindled in Talokan or misconstrue either of the two is a disservice to the movie's intricately structured theme.
If some fans loved Okoye and empathize with her struggles, they took shots at Ramonda for snapping. Yes, Okoye is an amazing, sympathetic character and tried her best. Okoye was suffering too, but do not neglect Queen Ramonda's pains.
"I had to lead a wounded nation and a broken world."
This is the same woman who lost her daughter for 5 years in the Blip, lost her son three times with the final being permanent, and lost her husband, who was politically assassinated. Throughout all of this, she had to lead a broken nation through a broken world herself. In Wakanda Forever, Ramonda had to deal with a dangerously grieving Shuri whose whole world was torn apart. She had to stand strong, seeing her daughter come undone while grieving herself.
Okoye stayed loyal to the throne when N'Jadaka (T'Challa's supposed murderer) took it while she and Shuri ran for their lives to the Jabari. Okoye's husband, W'Kabi, was a traitor. Ramonda pushed this all away (likely because she knew Okoye's heart and she understood the situation), allowing Okoye to continue serving at her side as her entrusted general and friend.
Ramonda told Okoye Shuri wasn't ready and told her not to take her on the field. Ramonda stressed her concerns about Namor (an unknown player with vibranium who had unexplainably breeched their boarders, warned them of their military power, and acted with help). Still, Okoye insisted, assuming full responsibility over Shuri.
Yes, Queen Ramonda was acting more like a mother than a queen here, and it wasn't the best decision she could've made (Okoye is their best warrior and was the only one who had fighting experience against Talokanil). However, it shows that she was human. It makes complete sense that the dam broke. She also had a point: Okoye failed in her duty, an insanely important duty that determined the fate of Wakanda.
Shuri isn't just Ramonda's daughter. She's the apparent heir. Shuri is a vital pillar in Wakanda as:
A) the apparent and only heir
B) head of Wakandan technology and design
Shuri is a leader in more ways than one, so her being taken is nothing to take lightly. Shuri even told Namor herself that Wakanda wouldn't rest until she was returned. When she comes back, a lab technician confirms this, stating to Shuri that the city has been stressed and restless in her absence.
All in all, this was a tragic fallout spurred by grief between characters with a mother-daughter dynamic.
Then there's Nakia, who mostly gets blamed for everything when she was roped in with her hands constantly forced. Even in canon, she was mistreated with Shuri ostracizing her. I'll probably write a dissection on her because it's just so crazy to me, but to give a rundown:
☆ Nakia lost "her everything" thrice. She had to be a single mother to Toussaint (who she also had to keep secret).
☆ Nakia's lack of presence at T'Challa's funeral in Wakanda was misunderstood for "running away," when she was told by T'Challa not to attend in fear of exposing their child. This led to characters pressing or misjudging her for it. Shuri had snip remarks towards her and even ignored her calls, yet Nakia remained patient and her side.
☆ The grandmother of her child pulled up to her workplace and home in Haiti, practically pleading with her to save Shuri (the love of her life's beloved sister). Queen Ramonda came to her, urging her to come out of retirement as wardog to rescue Shuri from those who held her. Neither Ramonda nor Nakia knew that Shuri requested to be taken to Namor. There was no rapport formed between them and Namor (quite the opposite). They do not know Namor or how he treats Shuri. We, as the audience, have dramatic irony. The characters do not!
☆ Nakia acted under the order of Ramonda to retrieve Shuri by any means. Even then, she did not shoot immediately. She told the guard to drop her weapon, then shot her only because she attempted to kill Shuri.
When the young handmaiden shakily held Shuri with a fruit knife near her neck, Nakia warned her with two lines, one being a command to let Shuri go. It is understandable that the young maiden froze up in fear, but time was running out. Nakia wasn't going to roll the dice on Shuri's life either. Namor would've done the same (or probably would've killed them on the dot to save his people).
While it is true Nakia killing those two Talokanil in part led to Namor's attack on Wakanda's Golden City...
1. Wakanda and Talokan still would've had inevitable conflict.
2. Her hand was pushed.
I've seen people blame or hate on Riri Williams, too, simultaneously getting and missing the point. Yes, Namor had a reason to kill Riri. He was acting as a king and didn't want his people to suffer the same traumas that caused them to move again. T'Chaka would've done the same thing.
However, even in Namor's own words, it wasn't "about the scientist." In the original script, he furthers he would've killed a thousand scientists if it meant ensuring Talokan's safety. Unfortunately, Riri was the scientist who made the machine (that she honestly had no business creating, even if she didn't know of Talokan). They wanted to throw a wrench in the cogs by depriving them of the machine and the scientist who created it. That way, they can't possibly replicate it.
To Namor, it was "Nothing personal, kid." Not even he fixed the blame on Riri personally. He just emphasized the problematic nature of the vibranium detector and what it opened them to, what it has begun. It's like the ethical delimma question of rerouting the train: Would you save the worker working absentmindedly on the train tracks or the group of people on the other side?
Coming from his perspective, you can understand him to a degree. Shuri did, but still was firm in advocating for sparing Riri. The moment she heard and saw that Riri was a student, she couldn't just fork her over to be killed for something not truly her fault. On her brother and for her brother's legacy, she refused to kill Riri. The choice to protect Riri reflected Wakanda's overall development post-BP1. It also illustrates Wakanda's optimism (afforded by their history and position), which isn't shared by Talokan. Talokan has more pessimism (due to their history of displacement, massacre by colonial disease, and vulnerabilities).
However, Riri also shows how Namor could be wrong.
Riri is a young black girl living in a constant state of disadvantage, trying to prove herself.
“To be young, gifted, and Black though, right?”
She mirrors Namor ironically. She suffered and experienced byproducts of colonialism as an African American. Riri, who is a teenager beginning college (do you expect the pinnacle of maturity and foresight from a 19-year-old?), was just caught in crossfire. Her work was meant for a rock project her professor, for some reason, didn't responsibly dissaude her from doing (but challenged her to). The FBI stolen and weaponized it, then dared to send armed forces to seize her in order to have her make it again. They even attempted to use Riri as a guise to destabilize Wakanda, pretending to care about her safety and abduction.
Additionally, even by Namor's own words, the surface world coming for them was only a matter of time. With or without Riri. Killing her would just be pushing back the dates, but it wouldn't have solved the problem. Beyond the moral dilemma of killing a kid, it actually would've created new problems.
1. A sovereign body intruded on American soil. 2. Said sovereign body and representative of another nation took a citizen. Not only that, a teenaged citizen that poses no harm who has also created the first vibranium detector (which they wanted and are looking for themselves). 3. Assuming Wakanda obliged, Riri would've been killed and never returned. Her mother would throw a fit, and it gives them so much political ammunition and guises to destablize Wakanda.
And what can Wakanda do? They are sworn to secrecy that Talokan exists. So they'll just be taking the hits just like they almost took the hits for sinking that ship when it was Talokan. If Wakanda falls and gets plundered, Talokan is not far behind.
None of these characters are "the real villains." Each of them have nuance, goodness, sympathies, and complexities. Every single one captures the complexity of humanity.
#wakanda forever#black panther 2#princess shuri#riri williams#fandom discourse#long reads#shipping discourse overtaking fandom fun = bad time for everybody#saying this as a shuriri shipper#nuance should always come first 🤷🏿♀️#more none shippy fandom essays y'all 😭 like pls 😭#what happened to the anti-colonialism vibes ⁉️⁉️#bpwf#mcu#marvel#queen ramonda#general okoye#mcu namor#nakia#character analysis
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I find it so funny that we are getting more and more confirmations about namor and Shuri’s bond having romantic implications before cutting it and focusing solely on grief and mutual trauma. And it’s funny because of alllll the things people were saying to us to discredit it or make us feel crazy or shitty for seeing it that way.
The writers guild podcast telling us that we had a glimpse of how close namor and shuri could have been before Ramonda’s death. Meaning that we were supposed to pick up the implicit/romantic undertones.
And then in the wakanda forever podcast sharing that Namor was going to kidnap shuri in the T’challa script. Telling me that him bonding with shuri was always an important element and that the hades and Persephone vibes were always there. Especially knowing that two black panthers were going to come out of this film, so shuri recreating the herb and consuming the bracelet (pomegranate) could have very well been a part of the original script.
And I have to repeat myself, that them cutting the explicit romantic elements between namor and shuri and focusing on their bond/mutual trauma enhances their romantic potential. Namor and shuri are doing the very things that make romantic relationships work and thrive. Also telling us that their connection isn’t just purely attraction, and Isn’t just simply getting along, they connect on much deeper levels and they can handle and empathize through those deeper conversations. They mean so much to each other as their foundation, so the progression to romance feels natural and long lasting.
#namshur#namuri#nashuri#seaprincess#namshu#namor x shuri#shuri x namor#namor/shuri#shuri/namor#namori#shuramor#shurmor
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OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD
SPOILERS FOR NEW MARVEL STUFF! ⚠️
Finally got around to watching The Marvels on Disney +!!!!! It’s the best mcu film this phase istg omg it’s SO GOOD and immediately you can tell it was written by a woman NOT TO MWNTION THE INSANE END CREDIT SCENES WTFFFFF KATE BISHOP PIZZA THE DOG AND XMEN?!?!??!!!!!!! Omg I’m ecstatic this is the best marvel film in years it’s finally giving avengers early phase vibes! And I’m actually happy with every single plot moment! Unlike no way home where there were many questionable plot moments and bad scenes and bad cgi and multiverse of madness was something different entirely like I loved the horror and stuff and it made sense but as a whole that works with the rest of the marvel universe I didn’t like how it went and wandas “death” or “fake death” and the whole x men stuff. Loved America in that tho! Her whole moment made sense and ugh I can’t explain it properly plus the shitshow that was the She Hulk series and overall it just made me lose faith in marvel and that’s why I didn’t see The marvels in cinema like I usually do bc guardians of the galaxy 3 was so shite and I thought this would too maybe that’s why it flopped cuz the hype on past films wasn’t lived up to. But this FINALLY brings back early marvel vibes and I’m so into it. (Plus the reign of the cats 🐈⬛ 🐈😆)
Cuz as much as I liked NWH there were questionable parts yk, Dr Strange characterised Wanda badly from start to finish and didn’t do her justice, Wakanda Forever was amazing don’t get me wrong I really loved it and cried A LOT, but I wasn’t too keen on the whole Namor thing or unnecessary deaths, and some characters really just deserved better than what they got, like Okoye.. and Black Widow was great but it could’ve been a bit better with cgi and plot-wise like the deleted scenes should’ve been kept and so on.
For the first time I just really enjoyed every part of this film, since marvel has gone downhill lately, this is new for me. also I loved the queer undertones for Kamala and Carol, although they should’ve been braver and put it in explicitly if they wanted to show Carol and Valkyrie together instead of the kiss on the cheek and no talk of them being together. But headed in the right direction for sure and not to mention the Kate and Kamala scene? Female avengers team? Finally not outnumbered by men? Also I really ship Kate and Yelena so I hope she comes onto the team too, though she might just stick with the Thunderbolts antihero theme. I love that it’s so clearly written by women and directed by them plus the brilliant casting and having the villain also be a woman and with a realistic villainisation like I get why she turned out the way she did, she just wanted her home back for her people, also it’s Zawe Ashton, Tom Hiddlestons wife so it would be cool to see them act together perhaps, but either way brilliant casting and script and everything, I love Kamala really speaking for the fans in a lot of it, and the musical scene was fun in a mystical way, like when we first got introduced to Asgard way back when, I just wish we saw what happened there at least a small look in at the end with Carol checking in on them because they left in the middle of a battle and then we don’t find out what happened to that planet. But other than that small detail the film was fantastic and I loved how even Goose got a good storyline.
(My dreamteam avengers would be Bucky🦾, Yelena🕷️, Kate🏹, Carol💫, Kamala👊, Monica🌠, Shuri🐾, Riri 🛠️(ironheart), America⭐️ and Cassie 🐜 and Morgan Stark. Plus some xmen if that’s now an option?? And AOS team but marvel would never do that
Maybe Peter🕸️ Sean⭕️, Wanda and Moon Knight🌙🤺 boys too but idk )
#the marvels#gay#kamala khan#carol danvers#monica rambeau#Valkyrie#kate bishop#hawkeye#ms marvel#goose#spoilers#nia dacosta#lesbian#bisexual#dream team
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Getting bombarded with Reylo and Namor/Shuri in my algorithm has really made me rethink being an Oshamir shipper, lol.
Ship whatever you want, but maaaaaaan I truly am not a huge fan of Reylos. The ship itself is whatever to me, because like Namor/Shuri, I simply don’t get romantic vibes. But the fan base for Rey and Kylo turned my stomach way back when, because so many of them were horrible to John Boyega for no reason. Not all of them, obviously, but I did not have a fun experience with the sequel trilogy because of all the racism, and now it’s bringing that same fan base back around and idk. It’s odd to me that so many of them are feeling vindicated, yet are low key still being racist.
Yes, they ship a biracial Black person with a Filipino man, but a lot of the Reylo accounts I’m coming across are also constantly saying stuff like “Why couldn’t Reylo have this hype?” or “Oshamir shippers need to thank Reylo for paving the way!” And I’m just over here like… But y’all were being racist though… what is there to thank?
Enemies to lovers is not a concept that began and ended with Reylo, but also, trying to make the thrill of Osha and Qimir getting together all about two white people, knowing how the same fandom treated a Black actor in defense of said white characters, rubs me the wrong way. So now I’m wondering if involving myself in the fandom is even worth it, because it has such a large demographic of white fans who seemingly only care about the ship because they can project Reylo on to it.
And I’m also nervous that if Amandla or Manny say a single thing against Reylo, not even negatively but anything their hardcore shippers dislike, they’ll turn on them. Amandla is already getting hate for just being the main character in the first place, so coupled with how I’m feeling about Reylo shippers at the moment, I don’t know. I just don’t want a ship with no white characters involved, to be taken over by entitled white fans, who seemingly see no issue with the reason so many people disliked their fan base in the first place. It wasn’t just because they shipped Rey and Kylo. There were real world issues at play, and I feel like they’re simmering again.
#oshamir#if you ship reylo cool#I’m not really talking to anyone and saying#you shouldn’t I’m just posting my thoughts#but the reason I don’t want Shuri/namor#on my feed is because tenoch huerta was#accused of rape and I don’t recall that being#resolved so why are y’all posting him like#it’s all cool and dandy no thank you
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Analysis about Wakanda Forever and the ShurixNamor ship (kinda long but worth it)
So we all know that a lot of the anti ShurixNamor folks are screaming “Y’ALL ARE DISGUSTING!! HE KILLED HER MOTHER! Y’ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!”
And I can just really tell that most of the folks in that camp really didn’t pay attention to the details of the movie and the series of events that happened before the unfortunate demise of Queen Ramonda.
First off I personally didn’t even ship Shuri and Namor together after seeing the movie because nothing pisses me off like writers who insist that every time two people of the opposite sex share a vibe, have chemistry, etc, that that automatically means that those two people need to have an intimate/sexual/romantic relationship. I believe that it is 100% possible for two people to have chemistry and still keep their relationship platonic and that was what I originally felt about Namor and Shuri after the end of the movie.
At this point, I defend their ship as much as I defend the writer’s decision to NOT force them into a physically intimate relationship.
I don’t know how the other shippers feel but I for one am not trying to say that at the end of the Wakanda Forever, that I wanted to see Shuri and Namor fall madly in love and trip off into the sunset together, have little brown mer-babies, etc. In fact I would definitely disown the entire Black Panther franchise if they did that. No one is saying that Shuri should just completely ignore the legacy of her mother in favor of being “booed up” to the person who was involved with her demise. However here’s a couple of things I feel like a lot of folks missed in the movie (which is why you have to watch it more than just once):
-First of all, let’s pretend like events played out differently. Let’s say that Namor still introduces Shuri to his nation, explains his origin story to her, the vibes are still vibing, etc. I think 90% of us can agree that after having a dress made for her ( ie, showing respect to her royal status) and presenting her with his deceased mother’s jewelry that that was lowkey a proposal. Namor did not *want* smoke with Wakanda, he wanted an alliance, and he made that clear with how he treated Shuri before everything popped off. He didn't WANT chaos, but at the same time he TOLD THEM what he was capable of and what he was willing to do to protect his people. I want the folks who are against them as a couple because of the death of Ramonda to consider the possibility that if Shuri had agreed to an alliance/political marriage/whatever at that point, he probably never would have showed up to Wakanda with his super soakers and extreme water balloons a-blazin’, and multiple lives could’ve been spared.
-Secondly (and stay with me on this one!), do not forget the fact that a lot of sh*t kicked off in the first place because Namor originally wanted Riri Williams because it was her thing-a-ma-bob that allowed the Americans to be able to detect the vibranium at the bottom of the ocean in the first place. During the fight scene in Boston after Okoye and Shuri picked up Riri, the Talokan army showed up to take *Riri* back. It was Shuri who demanded to be taken to Namor to talk him down/negotiate. Now remember that later on Shuri had told Namor to spare Riri and to keep *her* instead. Now at THAT juncture, the implication was that the two of them were going to try to compromise and meet somewhere in the middle so that Namor could ensure the continued safety and secrecy of his people without having to kill Riri or spill blood in general.
Now let’s cut back to what was going on in Wakanda. Ramonda gave Okoye ONE job before she took Shuri to Boston: bring my kid back with you. Unfortunately the General did not bring the princess back with her, so not only did Queen Ramonda basically have to fire her, but she had to go all the way to Ha-EE-Ti, to hit up Nakia like, “Girl, I just had to let the General go. I need you to do me a solid and find my kid or Imma knock all this sh*t over.”
*We’re almost at the end, hang on. . .*
So Nakia accepts this assignment, does what she does best, and figures out where Shuri is. The problem is that she doesn’t know what is actually going on between Shuri and Namor; the assumption is that Shuri is in danger, so her mind set is "Find Shuri and take no prisoners". Now while all this is happening and Namor is (probably) thinking that he and Shuri can work something out, Ramonda draws him back to the surface as a semi-distraction. Now while THAT is going on, Nakia shows up and in her efforts to save Shuri and Riri, she actually kills 2 Talokanil women in the process, snatches up the two geniuses, and disappears.
Now imagine you’re Namor in this situation: you just showed this princess the upmost respect, had a dress made for her, gave her the grand tour, told her about where you came from, what you’ve been through, you realized that you both have a lot in common, and you’ve basically offered to take over the world with her (more or less). And just when you think you have earned each other’s trust and respect, THIS happens. Two of your people are dead, both the princess and your original target are gone, and a line has been hella crossed for sure.
Are y’all really gonna tell me that he was just supposed to run back to his room, turn on some music, cry and write in his journal about it?? He already told the queen and the princess that he was about the smoke, did folks really think he was bluffing? And don’t forget, it was T’Challa who had basically revealed to the world about vibranium in the first place, and thereby opening Wakanda and the ocean floor to anyone seeking to pillage this priceless resource. (So yes, Wakanda is partially responsible for the predicament Namor found himself in in the first place.) So when he flooded/attacked Wakanda, we may not have liked it but he did not do anything that Wakanda would not have done if *they* had been in his situation.
And finally (and this is the one that’s really going to piss people off).
Yes, Ramonda drowned because of Namor's exploding water balloons, but. . .she probably would not have perished had she not sacrificed herself trying to save Riri (again, the person who Namor originally wanted in the first place).
Now again, to the people who say Namor x Shuri is an abomination because he caused her mother’s death. . .would you have felt any better if Ramonda had offered Riri to him in the first place? If she had said “You know what? I hate to do it, but I’m willing to sacrifice this girl in order to keep the crazy fishman off our back and to protect my daughter and my country”, would y’all have backed her play? Or condemned her? Because the same way Ramonda was somebody's mother, Riri is somebody's child.
Or if she had just let Riri drown in order to save herself, you’re telling me that would’ve sat well with you all? What if she *had* let Riri drown and was the only one who knew the truth (because no one else was there), how long do you think it would’ve taken before she told her daughter the truth? How do you think Shuri would have reacted?
My point is there are a couple of ways that scenario could’ve gone. Personally, I wish the writers hadn’t gone down that route at all, but at the end of the day, Ramonda died a noble death trying to save Riri, whom herself was unintentionally responsible for a lot of the sh*t that popped off. And even Riri admitted it after the fact, but I don’t see anyone coming for *her* though.
The bottomline is I think a lot of us can/do agree that Queen Ramonda should not have been written out the way she was at all, but folks are a long way away from trying to make Namor out to just be this ruthless, two-faced, cold-blooded killer. If you handed a “Congrats on doing the wrong things for the right reasons” award to Killmonger in the first BP movie, I don’t see how you wouldn't do the same for Namor. This isn’t even a “Because he looks sexy in his hoochie-daddy shorts and that makes him immune to criticism” argument, this is a “There is a 90% chance that his argument would hold up in a court of law and he would have to do community service and probation at best” situation. No one is saying we forgot how Queen Ramonda lost her life, we’re saying look at the broader picture.
And since I’m on a roll, I’m not saying Shuri and Namor *have* to get together in the future films, but based off his speech and actions (and scenes that were cut from the movie) Namor already felt something for Shuri, I wouldn’t even call it physical or romantic attraction even, but he saw something familiar in her, and from my experience that’s not something men will shake right away. Not to mention typically in both reality and mythology, when a powerful man is defeated/out-smarted by a woman. . .it doesn’t take long for the infatuation to set in LOL
Plus Shuri is literally the princess (or queen depending on your perspective)/Black Panther/head scientist of the most powerful nation in the world and now she’s seen HIS world. She may not be a demi-god but in Namor’s mind, she’s probably the closest thing he has to an equal. He caused chaos because he had been betrayed and did what he felt he had to do. He was called “the boy without love” but the love he had for his mother and for his people moved him to do whatever it took to keep them from having to surrender themselves and their vibranium to the colonizers. I’m not saying that his goals don’t need some fine tuning but he is the antagonist in the movie, not the villain. Even *Shuri* finally figured it out in the end; she could've killed Namor but even while still grieving for her mother, she understood the bigger picture; killing him would've risked eternal war and cost more innocent lives. And I guarantee you by the time Namor went back to his lil cave to paint his fanart of his fight with Shuri, he realized the bigger picture too.
#black panther 2#wakanda forever#shuri x namor#princess shuri#nashuri#seaprincess#shuramor#namuri#namor x shuri#tenoch huerta mejia#letitia wright#shuri udaku#queen shuri
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Do you have any favourite Shuri/Namor fanfics as of now?
excellent question! thx for asking 😇
right now I have yet to finish some but i started to compiling a list as soon as i finished watching WF the first time in theaters
here’s a couple i recommend…
ONE-SHOTS
I Wanna Be Yours by IntergalacticDolphinInYourBackYard
smutty but done tastefully 😜 (no pun intended lol)
sonámbula by lunarmoonbeam
namor & shuri meet in dreams 😴
then I’ll persuade you by WomanOf1000Faces
shuri decides to stays in Talokan instead of leaving with Nakia 👰♀️
sea change by wakandawinterprincess
shuri calls on namor after the war is over 🐚
it won’t be these clothes i burn by thefudge
darker tone, seductive, a retelling of Nashuri romance 😈🖤
Underworld by FairyRingsandWings
DARK fic😈, dead dove: do not eat, Namor wins AU, tw: DUBCON
COMPLETED
like snow at the beach by freedomatsea
slightly forbidden romance, hades/persephone vibes, smut 🚫💦
The Water Queen by tacotime
SLOW BURN 🔥 i absolutely love this one
waiting for you (all night) by breaddalton
kinky, possessive namor (so if that’s not ur thing it’s cool) 😈
NOT COMPLETED
pa’atení by neonheartbeat
namor & shuri must forge a tentative alliance in order to navigate dangerous threats 🫱🏾🫲🏿
But What is Grief? by justanotherwriter93
angsty, hurt/comfort, slow burn — this one’s really good if you wanna torture yourself with some angst 😩
the water cure by narqueen
PWP, canon divergence, arranged marriage 💍
to show you the whole sky by A_Spark_Of_Hope
marriage of convenience, grief/mourning 💍⚰️
I Need You Like Water by blueflam3
slow burn🔥 , namor is a SIMP, shuri’s independent
How is Never as Important as Why by weekdayworld
namor & shuri can see into each other’s memories through dreams, and experience first hand what the other has felt and seen 💭
saints above by filthyanimal
darkfic 😈, forced marriage au, dark! namor, TW: Noncon
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bonus if y’all are interested in Okoye x Attuma
Breathless and Bathed in Soft Light by Siancore
this is just pure 🥵
An Alliance of Prurience by Siancore
a continuation of Breathless and Bathed, also 🥵
L’admirateur by Fruitsandlube
multi-chapter (not completed)
if y’all have anymore recommendations, feel free to leave em in the comments ✨ love ya 💙
#namor#shuri#black panther#wakanda forever#namor x shuri#shuri x namor#seaprincess#nashuri#namuri#fanfiction#fanfic rec#k’uk’ulkan#princess shuri#queen shuri#king namor#namor of talokan#namor the sub mariner#mcu namor#mcu shuri#questions
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Do you think Halle and Jonah (Ariel and Eric) had chemistry in the Little Mermaid (2023)? I thought they did for the most part.
I didn't watch the movie. I have watched what clips are available online and, no I don't. I think Halle carries the whole thing. Like, she's intent here
and it makes sense that she's really exuding through her eyes because Ariel can't speak so she has to use her facial expressions
but they're not feeding off of each other, he's kind of just a guy who's there. he's trying, like I see the intention of what this is supposed to be, and she's doing it but ultimately he's flat
and even if it's supposed to be a "she's everything, he's just ken" kind of vibe in terms of the narrative of the relationship or he's supposed to have golden retriever energy (I'm not really sure how they portrayed Eric in the live action because again, I didn't watch it) that doesn't mean that they can't have an energy where they feed off each other and vibe.
Like the difference between how Eric is looking at Ariel
and how Hasil looks at Sally-Ann
there's life in Hasil's eyes, there's emotion, I see them vibing, they're not playing at smitten, they SEEM smitten
people can get all up in arms about Namor and Shuri but their chemistry whether you think it's romantic or simply intimate is palpable and apparent in how they feed off of each other
Eric and Ariel just remind me of Bonenzo.
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