#shoel

[spinallyspiraling]

Shoel (The Pit)

When the practitioner undergoes a Kundalini awakening the result is the lightning flash of creation and an enforced descent into Shoel (the pit). The electromagnetism expels from the brain and the heart as a result of the opening of the pineal gland and the heart center. The base of the skull transforms and in turn the Kundalini current is freed from the body and allowed to ascend upwards as a result of the changes made to Golgotha. When in Shoel the heat of Shin brings forward Kundalini fire and burns within the central nervous system. When falling into Shoel the left hip realigns as an etheric or astral spiral comes down around the body and exits the root chakra. The body literally becomes depressurized as a result of the anti matter created by the superfluidity of the hearts electromagnetism. The pit is a hollow pressure-less state of being resembling that of a decarbonated soda with the can opened or the top removed. The pit tests the initiate with trials and tribulations that test his or her mind and body with this walk along the razor's edge. The pit forces the root chakra to collapse making the insides of the practitioner fall and prolapse outwards. Once in Shoel the magician is met with this fight between survival and surrender. The pit is a void that's oxygen-less and comes with an immense amount of cranial pressure as the vessel's internal pressure is dissolved. The Kundalini will either fly upwards out of the crown or downwards off the tailbone and into the earth. When the Kundalini current flies off of the tailbone it becomes known as Satan's Tail. The pit when fully depressurized releases a seven headed dragon or serpent out of the Sacrum and the Coccyx. The seven headed serpent begins it's ascent upwards and out of the pit. The Sacrum and the Coccyx are known as the holy bone or the resurrection bone which is where the seven headed serpent is activated. The pit is only accessible due to the temporal paradox that is created through the Kundalini. Kundalini kills the vessel as a means to allow the vessel to remain alive (temporal paradox). In the pit the practitioner will hear, see, smell, and connect to unfathomable consciousness and entities seemingly within and without of themselves that instruct the magician to rise out of the pit and begin the integration of the spirit back into the flesh. This brush with death in the near death experience brings about ego death and a renewal in the magicians ability to perceive. This resurrection of the mind and body as a result give the practitioner a newly found respect for their existence and a sense of condition-less love because of the way the light from ineffable spheres on the tree of life can now freely flow from above to below and this is the rebirth of the self and the reason why the expansion of consciousness happens. When in Shoel the magician is made to be fully aware of the opened chakras in their body and above it. When the magician ascends out of the pit he will experience a diminished ability to perceive his environmental stimuli and internal vortices of energy. Rising out of the pit causes the merging of spirit and matter. The traversal of the soul into the body is achieved by sexual energy and libido. When in Shoel the sexual organs are lacking a current of electricity therefore the process of obtaining arousal is nearly impossible. In order to leave Shoel one must know their selves enough to figure out a methodology to achieve arousal and to cause alchemical processes to be jumpstarted once again. The descent into Shoel is synonymous with the hanged man tarot card. The lightning flash of creation is synonymous with the tower tarot card. Without the tower the magician would never successfully experience the hanged man. The hanged man is the teetering between life and death granting insight and knowledge from the world. The experience of Shoel and the hanged man deposits the insight and knowledge inside the awareness of the magician.

~ spinallyspiraling

[crimejewels]

Columbine Poster About Prom.

Rachel Scott , Nick Baugmart , Lauren Townsend, Cassie Bernall, Dylan Klebold, Corey DePooter, Isaiah Shoels, Robyn Anderson, Samantha Haviland; Attendend Prom in 4/17/99. Later in 3 Days Their Lifes Would Change Forever…

About Event;

something concerning the prom that was isaiah's (I don't know if it was an invitation or a brochure). And the booklet of Rachel.

Post columbine: 2000 prom.

Missy Mendo & Kelly Vandame.

Missy was a sophomore at the time of the 1999 massacre. it looks like she was invited to the prom. because it looks like it was in 2000 because of the date. it confuses me that it was a 1999 dance. maybe she was a freshman in 1998, then sophomore in 1999, then junior in 2000, most likely she graduated in 2001.

Kelly was 17 years old at the time of the massacre. grade not specified. she graduated in 2000. in the picture she is with her prom date, she later married him and they had 2 children.

[afataldesign]

Isaiah “Bushwick” Eamon Shoels

The sixth killed

On April 20th 1999, Isaiah Shoels was the sixth person killed.

At the time of the massacre he was 18 years old and a senior at Columbine.

About Isaiah

Isaiah was a strong, kind kid. He was quite popular and cared about everyone he knew.

During his junior year he did wrestling and was a cornerback for the football team (if anyone knows if he did them before junior year as well please let me know). If it wasn’t challenging enough to get there, he also had to fight with a heart defect and being shorter than most.

Sadly, after junior year he quit football. People suspect it could have been due to racism.

Another hobby he had was playing the keyboard. His goal was to one day follow in his fathers footsteps and become a record producer.

A note

Something I wanted to say was that I was genuinely disappointed while looking for information about Isaiah. While looking for different sources, I found out that they were few and far between. Whenever you look him up it only comes up with how his murder may have been racially motivated.

I find that truly disappointing because I think his story should be heard. He was a really cool kid! I think we should hear about him not his killers when looking him up.

His grave + other photos

And finally his autopsy report

[sparklesforcolumbine]

Daniel Lee Rohrbough, 15, with his mother, sue Petron. Daniel rohrbough was sadly one of 13 lives lost April,20th,1999. Rest in peace, Dan.

[astoryofcolumbine]

"Like snowflakes, my Christmas memories gather and dance. Each beautiful, unique, and gone too soon." ~

We understand that for many, the holiday season may present a particular type of grief. An empty chair at the table, the lack of laughter, the echoes of ooos and ahhs, the brightness in eyes that we cling to so dearly. The moments that we didn't know we would miss as much as we do now. The parts of people that we wish we had paid more attention to.

The Columbine families have now had more holidays without their loved ones, then they ever had with them. Hanukkah's, Christmas', Birthday's, Thanksgiving's, the days that are supposed to bring us together. And how can we ever truly feel together-ness, when we may never again feel whole without them.

"A place where people can come to pay their respects. Where students can have some peace. Where parents can feel closer..."~ 'I Walk With Each of You', Act 2 Epilogue Scene

Last year, the Columbine Memorial Foundation was thousands of dollars short within their yearly funds to upkeep the maintenance and cleanliness of the space. Please consider donating this holiday season to maintain the one-of-a-kind Memorial and to help keep the legacy of Columbine alive forever. For these families, the Columbine Memorial very well could be the closest memory of touch that they may have of their loved ones.

We ask that you please keep the families of Rachel, Danny, Dave, Kyle, Steven, Cassie, Isaiah, Matthew, Lauren, John, Kelly, Daniel, and Corey, in your thoughts and prayers this holiday season. We wish you all a peaceful and safe December and a Happy New Year. May their memories be a blessing.

Columbine Memorial Foundation Donations

https://www.columbinememorial.org/donate/

[feelingemotjons]

One of 16

“Isaiah Shoels faced challenges most kids never have to deal with. When he underwent heart surgery at 7 months to repair a malformed valve in his left ventricle, doctors warned that he might not live past age 5. Instead, Shoels went on to play in a youth football league and to wrestle for Columbine, lifting weights to pack 120 pounds of solid muscle onto his diminutive 4'11" frame. “He took those stumbling blocks and made stepping stones out of them,” says his father, Michael, who owns a small record company. As one of 16 African-Americans at Columbine, Shoels, a senior—and others of his five siblings—had heard the occasional racial taunt, and it seems to have been his color that marked him for death. “They targeted Isaiah,” says his father, who heard from eyewitnesses how his son died. “When they ran into the school, they started hollering, ‘Where���s that little n—-r?’ ” After they found Shoels in the library, they shot him in the head. “Isaiah was color-blind,” says his father.”

[the-grim-heaper]

sloshed (for Jowoel :3c)

Well, shit.

This was a bad time to test his alcohol tolerance. He really thought he could make it through three drinks... which is already three too many. The muddled thoughts snuck up on him suddenly. His senses were dulling... perhaps he should have done another once over through the city before trying to get wasted. Now he looked like a mess in front of Joel... at least he thought it was Joel? It looked like him... but he was so... wobbly? His face was blurred... He wasn't... disappearing again, was he?

Sho immediately reached out, trying to grasp at Joel. He already lost enough. He tried so hard to rebuild a proper life. He was terrified that it would suddenly be ripped away from him... Was something about to take Joel away?

[flashfuckingflesh]

The Little EVIL in the Cupboard. "The Abomination" reviewed! (Visual Vengeance / Blu-ray)

Cody’s devout mother has a large tumor growing in her lung.  Her piety believes will cure her from the ailment or so says the televised evangelical priest Brother Fogg who once listened to her plea.  When she coughs up the tumor onto the kitchen floor one night, the relieved woman becomes ecstatic having been miraculous cured by brother Fogg’s channeling of the holy spirit and her $20 donation to…

[dollielliot]

˳ ･ׅ ⠀⠀ . ﾟ* 𑙕 ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ׁ𐄙transcripts from police calls about columbine

F.B.I. report excerpt about the Library 911 call:

"On April 20, 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold shot and killed twelve students and one teacher at Columbine High School Littleton, Colorado. During the incident, teacher Patty Nielson placed a call to 911 Emergency. Neilson was in the library when she placed the call. The 911 operator answered the call stating "911" at 11:27:47 a.m. The phone call lasted 26 minutes. During the call, noises including gunshots, explosions, screaming, and yelling can be heard. The initial backround noises heard come from the hallway just outside of the library. Four minutes and ten seconds into the call, Harris and Klebold entered the Library and begin shooting. They left the Library eleven minutes and forty-five minutes into the call. The remaining gunshots and explosions heard on the tape occur in the Cafeteria, Science classroom area or the hallways of the school."

Eric - "Get up!"

Dylan - "GET UP!"

Eric - "Stand up right now or we'll blow your fucking heads off!"

Dylan - "Fine I'll start shooting then..." (shoots Velasquez) "Woohoo!"

Dylan - "All jocks stand up... white baseball cap"

Eric - "Pigs are here..." (begins firing out the window)

Dylan - (shoots Hall, Ireland, Steepleton) "Yahoo!" 

Patti Nielson - "our father.. who art in heaven... hallowed be thy name" Dispatcher - "ma'am, you need to forget about praying right now. What's happening there?"

Nielson - "They're in here... they're killing kids... I have to go." (drops phone)

Eric - (kills Curnow) "Die! Motherfucker!"

Dylan - "WOO!"

Kasey Ruegsegger - (after being shot by Eric) "Oh!"

Eric - "Stop your bitching! It's merely a flesh wound."

Dylan - (laughing hysterically)

Eric - "peek-a-boo" (kills Bernall)

Dylan - (shoots Ireland) "Die! …..down on the floor!"

Dylan - "REB?"

Eric - "Yeah?"

Dylan - "hey, man... there's a [ n word w/ the hard r] over here."

Eric - "shoot him."

Dylan - "SHIT YEAH!"

Shoels - "no…no…no.mom!"

(shoels and kechter killed)

(C02 bomb detonates)

Valeen Schnurr - "oh my god... help me..."

Eric - "do you believe in god?"

Valeen - "no. yes..."

Dylan - "Why?"

Eric - "God is gay."

John Tomlin - "Don't... done enough?"

(shots fired)

Dylan - "You think we've done enough?" (laughing)

Eric - "nice glasses" (shots fired... sounds of a scuffle.. shots fired again, Mauser killed)

Dylan - "was he trying to jump you?"

Eric - "yeah"

(shots fired... DePooter killed)

Dylan - "Look what we have here..."

Eric - "What?"

Dylan - "just some fat fuck"

Dylan - "give me one good reason why I shouldn't kill you."

Evan Todd - "I don't want to get into trouble."

Dylan - "Trouble! You don't know what trouble is..."

Evan Todd - "That's not what I mean... I don't have a problem with you guys..." 

Dylan - "I'm going to let this fat fuck live... little fat fucking piece of shit... you can have him if you want." 

Eric - "Let's go to the commons"

Dylan - "One more thing" (sound of something smashing)

Dylan - "Reb, ya ready?"

Dispatcher - "Columbine Senior High School. There's been a shooting. There's a female in the south parking lot. OK, I'm sorry, can you tell me where she is?"

Student - "She's in the south parking lot on the lower parking lot."

Dispatcher - "She's in the parking lot, the lower one?"

Student - "Right, toward the east end of that parking lot .... I just saw everyone running. I just saw the smoke."

Dispatcher - "OK. We had a report of explosions down there. Is there a car fire or anything?

Student - "People are saying there's a gun."

Dispatcher - "Do you know if anyone was carrying a weapon out there?"

Student - "No, I do not. There's like smoke going off in the parking lot right now. There are loud noises. I'm not sure exactly. A cop is pulling up."

Dispatcher - "Can you direct them?"

Student - "No, but they're going in the right direction. People are running out of the school like mad right now."

Dispatcher - "Where is the female ... is she still in that south parking lot?"

Student - "I can't see her anymore. I ran to the phone."

Dispatcher - "Can you see anything else?"

Student - "A lot of people are at the front of the parking lot and they're running out."

Dispatcher - "When the kids came out of the school, which direction were they going?"

Student - "They went down towards the street."

Dispatcher - "What part is this? Is it like the gym area, the cafeteria or just classrooms?"

Student - "They're coming from like the commons, the lunch area right now."

Dispatcher - "The commons area? 

Student: Everyone's running and I'm still standing here."

Dispatcher - "You're out of the way of danger, aren't you?"

Student - "I believe so, I don't know." 

Dispatcher - "Do you mind if I keep you on the phone here so you can tell me if anything else is going on there?"

Student - "I think the fire alarm is going off right now. Yeah, the fire alarm is going off."

Dispatcher -  "...Shots fired at Columbine High School, 6201 South Pierce, possibly the south lower lots toward the east end. One female is down"

[unintelligible]

Dispatcher - "71"

Deputy Neil Gardner - "Shots in the building. I need somebody in the south lot with me."

Dispatcher - "MC-2's in the area."

Dispatcher - "140 enroute. 11:26" (dispatcher gives time of broadcast). 

[unintelligible field radio with siren in background]

Dispatcher - [unintelligible] "11:26"

[unintelligible, officers acknowledging their response]

Deputy Neil Gardner - "Several shots. Code 33."

Dispatcher - "71. Several shots fired. Columbine High School. Use caution...."

[unintelligible]

Dispatcher - [unintelligible] "You were covered."

[unintelligible field unit]

Dispatcher - "Copy. Attention. All units, there's a code three on this channel. For the officers at Columbine High. Take your traffic to channel two...."

[unintelligible field unit]

Dispatcher - [unintelligible] "11:27"

Officer - "41"

Dispatcher - "41"

Officer - "Yeah, the alarm's OK. Enroute down to Columbine."

Dispatcher - "11:27"

[unintelligible]

Dispatcher - "71 requested assistance at the south lower lot."

Officer - "At the lot?"

Dispatcher - [unintelligible] "at the lot. That's where we had the female down.... [unintelligible] 127 [unintelligible]"

Officer - "OK ... We've got the pupils leaving the grounds."

Dispatcher - [unintelligible] "I have report of possible grenades in the school."

Officer: "147"

Dispatcher: "147"

Officer: [unintelligible] "teacher thinks somebody is in the school with a gun."

Dispatcher - "Report units of possible parties inside the school with weapons. Also we have reports from outside the school that possibly grenades are being thrown from the roof of the school."

Officer - "27. I'm set up on Pierce at the, uh, south side lot."

Dispatcher - Pierce south side of the lot.... [unintelligible]

Officer - "44. I'll be set up on the west side of the back of the school, by the ball field."

Officer - "MC-2. I've got the west side by the ball field. Supposedly they're in black trench coats."

Dispatcher - "MC-2. West side by the ball fields, parties in trench coats, possibly has a shotgun."

Officer - [unintelligible] "copy."

Officer - [unintelligible]

Dispatcher - "Last unit"

Deputy Neil Gardner - "71"

[crimejewels]

25 years ago...

The dedication scene to the 13 victims of Columbine at the end of “I’m Not Ashamed.”

[spinallyspiraling]

Son of God

Solar = Sun = Son

Solar Plexus is the center that governs Christ Consciousness and the navel governs life and death, movement and stagnancy. The white horse that carries death happens when the naval chakra unties, it causes every other chakral knot to untie and then as a result the lightning flash of creation takes place where the soul or the light of Christ descends down into matter within the physical vessel. The initiate falls into Shoel or the pit and then have to save their self. The Kundalini is awakened and is the vehicle for ascending through the body and in the dimensions of consciousness. We have to awaken ourselves and tune ourselves into the frequency of Christ through near death as a means to get the keys of hell and death and obtain the bright morning star which is the essence, the spark, and the light of Christ given through the work of the alchemist. No man comes to Christ Consciousness without experiencing his own death while he is alive and inhabiting the inner hells of himself.

~ SpinallySpiraling

[therealjoeysmack]

i’ve spoken ab this in the past but you’re stupid as fuck if you like dylan klebold and actively hate on dylann roof. they were/are BOTH racist. this is literally a fact. i know that columbine wasn’t exactly “racially motivated” — but that doesn’t change what happened. isaiah shoels? are we forgetting him? im not even gonna include what was said in his journals either. they’re both bad ppl, neither is better than the other.

[afataldesign]

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[scribeforchrist-blog]

Learning To Be Satisfied 

MEMORY VERSE OF THE WEEK

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+ Psalm 46:5 God is within her; she will not fall; God will help her at break of day.”

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VERSE OF THE DAY 

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+ Proverbs 27:20 Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, and people’s eyes are never satisfied.

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** SAY THIS BEFORE YOU READ; HERE’S SOME CHRISTIAN TRUTHS **

I AM SATISFIED 

I AM CONTENT 

I AM LOVING 

I AM BLESSED 

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THOUGHTS:

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    There are so many of us who are never satisfied. We can try all we can to be satisfied and buy everything we need, but there's still something missing. We say if I buy this one thing, this would be it. I don’t need anything else, but here comes something better than what we have. Something is better than what we own.

  I remember when I first bought the iPad; I was so content and thrilled; then the next year came, and they came out with a bigger iPad, and I bought that one, and the following years after that, every year they came out with something more than the other last two like a larger screen or SOMETHING. 

  Each year, I bought a new one, and until one day, I said I was not buying another one because they all do the same, and this is it. I had to put my foot down to gain ground because I was never satisfied, and I saw it. I asked God to help me be content.

    The verse today says that Shoel and Abaddon are never satisfied. People's eyes are never satisfied because what we see we most of the time want; I have met only a few satisfied people, and they don’t have to have all these things other people like because they realize they can't take it to heaven and to have all these things doesn’t matter, it don’t mean anything to have a closet full of clothes and a self-whole of books it doesn’t matter but what matter the most is being filled with the Holy Spirit and dwelling in his presence. 

     1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life—is not from the Father but is from the world.

  In 1 John, it tells us that the desires of the flesh and eyes are the pride of life because what we desire the most and what we see with our eyes are what we value the most; it becomes our pride and joy, the house we have and the cars we drive builds nothing but pride. 

    We place these things before God and sometimes before our responsibilities because we feel this is the right thing to do. Still, really, and honestly, when we place things and people before God, those become our focus, which we become proud of. Some people are prideful about their looks, some about their children, and some about their marriages. Still, when we place so much of ourselves in this, we lose who we should glorify. We have no time to glorify God because we are too busy in the presence of what we glorify the most.  

    When we do this, we bring ourselves more into the world than we can ever imagine, and pride is hard to break because we don’t see it or feel it; it sneaks up on us when we allow it in. We don’t see ourselves worshiping the gods we have made, these people, and things we have placed above the true God. Some people laugh and pick fun of people who are so obsessive with things, and the reason why this happens is that they allow themselves to bow down to the things that are right in front of them and lose focus on the True God 

   2 King 5:22 “Everything is all right,” Gehazi answered. “My master sent me to say, ‘Two young men from the company of the prophets have just come to me from the hill country of Ephraim. Please give them a talent of silver and two sets of clothing

     Having things and a nice place isn’t wrong. Still, when we want so much of it that none of our wants are from above, we lose sight of who we are. We as believers can let things and people take that from us; look at Elisha’s servant, Gehazi. Gehazi was told to tell Naaman one thing, but Gehazi decided to be disobedient, and he lost everything because he let the pride of life, and riches to cause him to lose focus.

    This picture of what he did shows us that we are servants of God, and we allow one thing to distract us and pull us from him to get what we think is immediate, and that is what Gehazi did; he was looking at I can get ahead if a have more, and he knew if he asked Naaman, he would give it to him because Naaman was so grateful for what Elisha did.

   2 King 5:27 Naaman’s leprosy will cling to you and your descendants forever.” Then Gehazi went from Elisha’s presence, and his skin was leprous—it had become as white as snow.

     Because of his greed, Gehazi lost his health. He lost being under that kind of anointing, and we can lose our anointing if we allow people, things, and sinful activities to stay in our lives; we must learn to let go to grow in God. If you’re carrying the anointing Of God, be careful what you entertain, be careful what you do, and be careful about anything that can taint the anointing of God in your life; he can’t take gifts away, but he can place his anointing on dormant if he feels you have abused it.

   ***Today, we learned about greed and being content; this kind of action can often pull us from God. A lot of people look at this sin and that sin, and they don’t understand that even this sin can pull us away from God because it is a trap from the enemy for us to view it as small, and it’s not.

  What Satan's plan is for some of us is to make us think our sins can’t send us to hell and our ways can’t send us to hell. When we let worldly possessions step in the way, we will lose closeness with God because we lose sight of who he is to us today; if you are blinded by the enemy schemes and tricks ask God today to help you stay focused on him. And to be content in whatever season he has you. ©Seer~ Prophetess Lee

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PRAYER

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Heavenly Father, thank you for today; we ask that you help us be content. We ask that you dwell with us and continue to use us for your will, show us what we are doing, and show us what we have allowed to stand in our way. Lord, please fight all our battles; we give you everything; lord, continue to love us, and please don’t give up on us; continue to use us, and we thank you in Jesus' Name, Amen 

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REFERENCES 

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+ Proverbs 21:4Haughty eyes and a proud heart, the lamp of the wicked, are sin.

 

+ Proverbs 21:24 Scoffer’ is the name of the arrogant, haughty man who acts with pride.

 

+Proverbs 26:12 Do you see a man who is wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.

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FURTHER READINGS 

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Proverbs 25

Esther 7

Judge 10

2 Samuel 5

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[queenladonna]

It's very telling of someone when you fully condemn the Columbine shooters, and they respond to you with: "You've obviously never been bullied."

If you think that someone hasn't been bullied because they don't support mass murder (or murder at all) as a response to bullying, then you are a fucking lunatic who needs to be locked up.

On top of that, bullying was not the reason for their actions. Maybe it was one of their reasons, but we know by now that it wasn't the only thing motivating them; that was just their little self-pitying excuse. Many of the kids at Columbine were bullied, so why were these 2 different? Because they were simply violent, and they wanted infamy.

And we know by now that they were bullies, too. DK literally bullied a disabled boy horribly in 1998, and then threatened his life if he told. (But the boy did bravely tell his mother, who then told the school.) They were also extremely racist. They hurled racial slurs at Isaiah Shoels while they murdered him. They mocked and teased their victims. They mocked the victims' bodies. EH teased Daniel Mauser about his glasses before he murdered him. They were both bullies, and they were the ultimate bullies that day.

Remember that they did not "snap" a day or 2 earlier (still wouldn't be excusable). They planned the massacre for a whole year. They had plenty of time to decide not to do it, but they still did it because they wanted to murder a school full of people. They wanted to be famous, and that is exactly what our stupid selves have given them. For 25 years.

The Columbine shooters were not Carrie White snapping at the prom. They were premeditated, calculated murderers. Don't try to paint them as anything else.

[techramonic]

I suppose one topic I could ask would be, do you think the klebolds and harriss’ should’ve been charged?

like when wayne found the pipe bomb materials + a completed pipe bomb in eric’s room he just made him get rid of the bomb, but he still have him back the materials. I believe I also saw a post a while back that listed some times sue was neglectful of dylan (and they were basing that off of things she said in her book) - isaiah shoels’s father believed they should’ve be charged, so what are your thoughts regarding that?

Hundred percent have to agree with Isaiah Shoels' father with this. I do think they deserve to at least be given a penalty or amercement of some sort. While their sons are the perpetrators of the massacre, they were still their responsibility in the first place and were still under their care.

Basically, a family, or primary group in sociological terms, is responsible for shaping the values of its children. This social group plays a crucial role in determining the culture they grow into. While secondary groups, such as educational institutions and media, also significantly influence children, the primary group remains the strongest bond as it provides the necessary security and support, especially if the secondary group becomes a toxic environment. That's what their parents failed to provide. They hadn't noticed or ignored the signs until it was too late. The security and support system the two needed was not non-existent but rather too weak for them to see that it was there.

It was also Eric and Dylan's fault that yhey hadn't communicated, but when a child doesn't communicate, that's because their parents exhibited reaskns for them not to.

I believe that the situation was not "inevitable", because they wouldn't have done the shooting if they were given the proper help they needed. The two were desperate for the attention needed to garner help and even exhibited many warning signs in different ways, countless of times. Even if one may say they haven't communicated enough, if you delve deep into their eccentric behaviors, there's a redundancy and repetitiveness to their violent tendancies that's enough for a parent to be worried and see that something is wrong with their child. Their parents should've caught on, after one red flag to another. They shouldn't have ignored it or swept things under the rug; blame it on some teenage hormones and media consumption or "boys will be boys". These teens were actually facing serious mental issues that were left to be unchecked and/or unregulated.

It's an unfortunate event that left many families with a tragedy. One that left them to try and fix things that Eric and Dylan have destroyed. The two of them even destroyed themselves while trying to make their statement. Their parents are a part of that too, however, we need to consider that this tragedy wouldn't have happened if not for the sociopsychological needs they had that were unmet and manifested in their destructive behaviors that soon became irreversible actions.