#shigamom

[featherstorm2004]

I like to headcannon that if Shigamom had lived she would have taught AFO to handle his need to collect Quirks by having him start collections of smaller objects, such as rocks, plants, feathers etc. Just to make his need manageable since I would imagine that she wouldn't want her son out and about hunting quirks in what was essentially an apocalypse.

I also headcannon that AFO takes after his mother, idk I just think it would be neat since despite everything, her quirk has always acted to protect him even in his final moments. So, I think if she had lived they would have had an incredibly close bond, especially since I think she could relate to the feeling of being abandoned by society for something you couldn't control.

Honestly, I wish we got more backstory on her in general since I would love to know why she ended up homeless and how she (technically) became the first person with a quirk. Where is her family? what where he parents like? did she have siblings? there are so many questions and we'll probably never have the answers, but it's still fun to speculate on.

[wimpwompz]

Spawn of evil is a mama’s boy

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[20001541]

Since AFO took Tomura's og quirk as a baby, does that mean there was a baby Tenko vestige someone in the back of AFO's mind? And did he stay as a baby forever as the quirk was removed from Tenko's body when he was in that state?

[fractiflos]

Is it just me or do ShigaMom and Inko kinda look alike?

I can't find a good picture of Inko, but I feel like there's some similarities.

[pocketramblr]

Kinda want to do a sequel to valentine's vaulting...

[20001541]

YES EXACTLY

afo isn't the cause of every evil in the story, you can't just defeat him and expect everything to be okay once again. he's just a byproduct of society's apathy towards those who are in need of help. it's not enough to only save tomura and the rest of the league with only a few kind words, there needs to be real change in the way society operates or else another villain may rise up who is just as bad or even worse than afo.

and besides it didn't even all start with afo being left to fend for himself on the street, it started with a homeless prostitute whom people walked past everyday not caring if she needed help or not. she couldn't get any medical help when she observed strange growths on her arm and she sat on the side of the streets drinking her days away just trying to get by. maybe if she had gotten the help she needed she would've survived child birth and be able to care for her children. but she didn't, everyone around her ignored her and so she died by the riverside which resulted in her children being left alone in the world and that made afo who he is today.

"Destroy everything that gave rise to that house."

I remember that line Tomura gave in reference to the tragedy and all that terrible hardship. To destroy society to it very foundation to give rise to something different. I imagine people think that if it all because of AFO it some how 'cheapens' the critic on society.

But the thing is AFO is the very PRODUCT of societies very foundation that was built on the blood of innocence. He is born from it poverty, it starvation, it cruelty, and abuse of power. He watched as people tore each other apart, forced to kill since youth while many people pretended to be on the side of good. He took in everything that society itself tried to pretend it didn't have and made it his identity to exploit because Society ALLOWED him to do so.

All for One would not have existed if there had been even one person that looked at those feral children in the streets. Saw they had powers and yet still extended a hand, but because no one did a monster was born from societies very malice. Trying desperately to have what everyone else has, to imitate everything else society can give but also to exploit others with no regard for who is crushed. Just like how society allows people to fall through the cracks, as AFO says society makes it easy to turn good people into villains.[MHA: Vigilantes]

Showing and exploiting the very weakness in that society. So him becoming that very house, to laying the foundation and being part of constructions. He is something to be defeated yet is not something that could easily go away just with a few words.

It like a poetic way of saying as long as Society continues to be the way it is, then All for One will never allow himself to die. That is what Tomura and Izuku need to fight against as long as society doesn't change another AFO will rise to exploit it.

[saltytearsofjoy]

For drawing ideas: shigamom cuddling with her babies, please 🙏

they are precious 😭😭 afo kicks both of them in his sleep

[featherstorm2004]

Do you guys think that his mothers past contributed to AFO's fear of not being remembered? because if you think about it his mom lived a life were everyone either ignored or abused her, and when she died I doubt anyone noticed. And the only person who's left to remember her story is the son that she didn't even know existed until she died.

And the worst part is that her story dies with AFO, as he was the only person who could tell it. Like that had to have effected him even a little, it certainly would make sense if it contributed to his goal to be the greatest villain in history. To make sure that his story would be remembered in the way he wanted it to be.

It also makes me curious did AFO ever tell Yoichi about their mother? like dose Yoichi know that their mothers vestige resides in AFO or did he just not bother to tell him, idk man it makes you think.

[20001541]

What do you think afo would have been like if he'd been raised under better circumstances

depends on what you mean by better circumstances; there's him being born in a stable home with all his needs provided and there's not being born in a time where everything went to hell while also having a stable home. I'll discuss both here.

for the first one if shigamom had gotten support and had somewhere to live safely with her babies I think there's a lot that would change but also some that stay the same. I don't think afo would feel this desperate need to have everyone's eyes on him because he has a mother who loves him and cares for him. she protects her children and makes sure they're safe so he doesn't feel ignored as his needs are being met. he isn't the main provider for him and his brother so he would have the chance to act more like a child rather than having to grow up fast in order to survive.

however.... I don't think shigamom is prepared to handle everything that comes with having a child with a powerful quirk. people with powers are new to the world and were thought by many to be diseased so she would most likely encourage afo to hide/suppress this part of himself out of fear for his safety. of course suppression can only lead to deep unhappiness and dissatisfaction in ones life so afo would feel miserable. it might also cause a rift between him and his mother as well.

I like to think that after years of trying to suppress it he decides to go out one day and secretly use his quirk to explore more of what it can do and get relief from not having to suppress this power he's had all his life. maybe then he'll start secretly dabbling with groups that advocate for quirk rights and try to position himself as leader as a way to have full control of what happens to people like him and not to be at anyone's mercy (still has his more control freak tendencies here). with how powerful his quirk is, it'll be hard for anyone to challenge him so he succeeds in doing this.

maybe he becomes a big player in making quirks more accepted in society. he's doing this far more out of self interest, but it does help a lot of people who are struggling with the changes in their own lives and in the world. idk anything could happen really, but whatever happens in the end he comes out on top and ensures him and his family are able to live comfortably. I do wonder how encounters between him and destro in this au would go....

for the second scenario where he isn't born in a time of chaos, lets say he's born in the same time period where the plot of bnha begins in, I still think he would struggle with that suppression aspect I spoke of earlier. we know how a lot of people viewed toga as a freak for her own desire for blood. so someone like afo who has the ability to give and take quirks would be deemed a deviant by most of society. I can picture baby afo sitting in quirk counselling and told he needs to wear gloves so he wont feel tempted to take someones quirk :( the only thing good here is that he isn't at the risk of being killed by anti quirk users for having this type of quirk.

buttttt you know I feel like with a quirk THAT powerful he is bound to capture the hero commissions attention. they might coerce shigamom into giving up custody of baby afo to them so they can groom him to do their bidding and this may inevitably lead afo to the path of villainy as he's sick of being used by people who could care less about him as a person. plus they never let him see his family and he misses them greatly.

now what would his attitude towards yoichi would be like then in both of these au's? well I don't think he would be extremely codependent as he is in canon. perhaps there would be some codependency as I think he would struggle connecting with people socially so he had no friends and he often depended on yoichi for company (he didn't start making friends until he learned how to present himself in a way that appeals to many), but his dependency wouldn't be to the level we're familiar seeing him with.

its not just him and yoichi alone in the world, he has his mother here too so he has more than one source of love available to him. a large part as to he became so dependent on yoichi in canon as yoichi was the only one he had the entire world. I do still think afo would get jealous of yoichi hanging out with people other than him, but it wouldn't result in him becoming murdery. unless there's someone who gets really close to yoichi then he'll start wishing death on them on the bright side yoichi wouldn't feel as suffocated by afo and afo wouldn't feel the need to be super controlling in his life.

yoichi is also very supportive of afo and tells him how his quirk isn't something to be feared and could do amazing things in the world. though afo doesn't care to use his quirk for the greater good, he still appreciates hearing yoichi accept him and his quirk. I think they would get along better generally, though they would fight in how yoichi thinks afo is too selfish at times while afo argues yoichi needs to worry more about himself and the family rather than strangers who don't care about him.

but if afo does become a villain after being taken in by the hero commission then it would change their whole relationship for sure. there's relief and tears at seeing his brother again, then worrying about how much he's changed since then to the point where he doesn't recognize him anymore then complete horror when discovering the truth on yoichi's end. cue yoichi getting angry at everything with how the hero commission hurt his brother and caused him to become who he is now and him desperately trying to save afo. not a great time for either of them. as to what happens with both of them in the end here? who knows, there's a lot of variables to consider and I'll leave the rest up to your imagination as I might end up typing out a whole fic if I keep going.

anyways that's just what I think on how it could go if afo were raised in better circumstances.

[fruitgumy]

i was fully ready to believe that baby for one was just Built Different and completely conscious as a baby because that would be the LEAST weird thing about all for one lol. but yeah he 100% is a mama's boy, shigamom is a boy mom and he's her spoiled rotten son

idk if this was obvious and I'm just dumb but i just realized that the reason afo probably knows how he was born is because he's encountered his mom's vestige and has talked to her. that could possibly be how him and yoichi survived as well, if his mom's vestige were able to guide them or even take control of his body as an infant. it's been shown that it takes a lot of control and willpower for him to keep the vestiges within him dormant, and considering he would've been very young and inexperienced her vestige probably would've popped up frequently. him keeping her quirk all this time is really sentimental when you think of it that way

[20001541]

OKAY BASED OFF THE POLLS JANUARY 1ST WAS CHOSEN AS AFO'S (AND YOICHI'S) BIRTHDAY! CONGRATS ON THE BIRTHDAY KINGS🥳🎉🎂

credits to auramighters on twitter for the edit

[fractiflos]

How do you think that Yoichi and AFO survived as newborns if their mom died and they were in such a terrible enviroment that literally the first thing that happened after being born was that they almost got eaten by rats and drown in a river?

Babies can't eat anything but milk after certain age, because, not counting they don't have any teeth, they can't digest it, in the best case scenario, consuming another thing that is not milk, would cause them to develop a serious allergy to that specific food that could kill them later with an anaphilatic reaction, and in the worst, kill them right away.

Besides, a newborn has so many needs besides the food, specially a malnourished one as Yoichi.

A baby as him, a donor baby, would have been left several months in the hospital until he gained certain weight.

And even AFO, the receptor baby, could have several health problems that could kill him.

The fact alone that Yoichi was not born dead, is a miracle itself, almost none of those donor babies survive. And as I said, there is a chance that the receptor could die as well.

Wow, I wasn't expecting to be asked for my thoughts on this question!

(Before I answer, I should say I haven't actually read those chapters, I just saw the leak translations on here because I don't know where everyone else is able to read it.)

Anyway, I do think that they managed to get a little milk. ShigaMom hadn't been dead for too long, so she still had some, which is why Baby For One bit her breast, to get to the milk. Plus, he was strong enough to carry Yoichi, so he might've helped him get the milk on the other breast, as Baby Yoichi still should've been able to smell her.

But, that wouldn't have lasted long.

I'm of the belief that someone found two newborns suckling on their dead mom and thought, "I should get these children to a hospital".

So, the milk helped them hold on for a little bit until someone came and called an ambulance or something and they were taken care of. From there, I say they got abandoned once people realized the white hair was there to stay, about 2-3 maybe. And I can see AFO not wanting to admit someone other than him cared for Yoichi as the scene seemed to be his POV (but his thought process is a different topic).

However, I do have a very stupid theory that I can't get out of my head, so thank you for giving me the excuse to talk about it.

They were raised by animals.

Humans have been breastfed by animals before and survived (though it's not ideal), so it's not totally impossible for.

Except there's the health issues. I think part of it is that quirked people are hardier than regular people and human bodies will do all sorts of stuff to avoid dying. The reason this is a stupid theory that no one should take seriously is because I can't think of another reason.