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airocats · 3 months ago
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bonefall · 18 days ago
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If you mean the like sparkle dog hair. Do you want that really really fun idea to go this family or like a more fun family
Yeah that's exactly what I meant in the tags. I like the idea of the Berryheart family having Sparkledog hair with the distinct striped raccoon tail bang.
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This sort of thing, if you know you know.
What gives me pause isn't this not being "a fun family," but more that I want to make sure the Rowanstar Family's two-striped mane remains distinct. This is essentially a mane with a more "localized" stripe, if you get me, so I fear it would have overlap with BB!Heartstar's mohawk.
Plus, this lineage really "starts" with Snowbird and her brother Ratscar. Since Snowbi is so influential to the tree and Ratscar is so important to BB!Blackstar's expanded redemption arc, it's especially important that whatever trait that defines this family is particularly distinct.
I want it to IMMEDIATELY define the family at a glance so "the viewer" sees, in the design, that a particular cat is (or is no longer, depending on family tree changes) a member of this group.
Hmm... maybe that's another point in its favor, though. I could have Spireclaw cut his bang off to symbolize that he's disowning his mother, when she threatens Fringewhisker.
I'll sketch around with it.
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cacw · 1 month ago
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you're my best friend
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spiderfaang · 17 days ago
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Honestly makes me so mad that sunbeam's arc and her relationship w/ her mom get sidelined so hard in exchange for nightheart. Bc there is substance there, like needletail is sunbeam's older sister and we all know what happened to her. And how berryheart might have been a driving force for needletail turning towards the kin and how that same behavior is making sunbeam run away as well. But that would acquire the writers to like acknowledge that the shadowclan apprentices during avos were failed by the adults around them and taken advantage of and I think the erins would rather die than that.
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fatal-rewrites-warriors · 2 years ago
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I'll have to design Leopardfoot once everyone in the books is done
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skyscratch-wc · 11 months ago
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The Foundations of the Skykin — the descendants of Cloudstar and Birdflight
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I’ll explain these cats later in a different post (still drafting the story), but for now here are the major character changes from canon for context:
1. Birdflight goes to Shadowclan and is invited into the clan by the priest, Molepelt. Dawnstar is the least adamant that Skyclan leave and honestly given Redstar’s attitude and previous battles with Skyclan it makes no sense for Bird and her kits to go to Thunderclan.
2. Gorseclaw and Spottedpelt are now Lichenshade and Orchidblaze and they’re designs have been altered. Lichen is light brown rather than dark and Orchid is a dilute calico. I didn’t like how Gorse and Spotted were supposed to be the spitting images of Tigerclaw and Spottedleaf. The larger time gap in this au doesn’t make that make any sense either. So, they are their own cats now.
Some other fun facts:
1. Birdflight was a Skyclan Protector and was a renowed warrior within her clan, known particularly for her skill in ambushing and stalking opponents. She had a kind face but nasty claws.
2. Every cat in this tree (with one exception) is a protector. The warrior’s honor is strong in this family and they place a lot of value in combat skill. Sedgecloud is the only cat who is not a protector, and she instead is a Shadowclan priest.
Eventually I’ll put together a full family tree from Cloudstar down to the present, but it’ll be awhile before that
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pinetreedan-wc · 2 years ago
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Pebbleshine, Hawkwing, Violetshine, & Twigbranch
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Scattered family
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angsttronaut · 17 days ago
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absolutely nuts that tigerheartstar took over riverclan for a while and there were no deaths.
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blimbo-buddy · 1 year ago
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Imagine if BristleFrost had more connection towards DoveWing's family and was in Shadowclan for a good bit, and when she was dying in that damn water, she was trying to think of fond memories of IvyPool and FernSong plus her time in Thunderclan and can barely remember anything about it because neither of her parents ever really talked to her. Then she goes "Oh well" and her mind immediately floods with memory after memory of DoveWing and her family plus her time in Shadowclan
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spiremassk · 11 months ago
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Dovewing x Bumblestripe hypokits
(I don't ship them,just wanted to know what their possible offsprings would look like)
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child of divorce. you know how litters can have two fathers? yeah this is that. born in the dovetiger litter but. clearly looks like bumbles family
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vic-does-battlecats · 7 months ago
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Cloverfoot
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lifesteallord · 6 months ago
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GOOD GOD STOP GIVING US THUNDERCLAN POVS LET ME OUT THIS BITCH !!! SHOW ME WINDCLAN IN MODERN DAY PLEAAAASEEEEEEEEE
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bonefall · 1 year ago
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Are there any changes to Smokepaw (ShadowClan Apprentice in TNP) in BB? He is my all time favourite Warriors character for literally no reason, he existed twice, the second time to fall off a cliff and die, but I love him. I feel like he was a huge waste of potential, in that first time he appeared I thought of Blackstar as a sort of parental figure to him. Think like Firepaw and Bluestar, maybe? Or maybe more like Firepaw and Yellowfang? I'm sure that was just me serious projecting onto like less than a page of screen time, but I am so attached to him. I even made an AU where there was a conveniently placed river that swept him away to the Sundrown Place where he was taken in by Midnight.
Does BB have anything for my little guy?
Smokefall! Given an obligatory Sardonic ShadowClan name after he fell off a cliff and forced the entire journey to halt in its tracks for almost a month!
because shadowclan is like, ridiculously small and the family tree is a brick, Smokepaw (TNP), Smokepaw (Field Guides), and Smokefoot (Po3) are reworked. SmokeFALL survives, Smokepaw is now BILLOWCLOUD, and Smokefoot is SMOGFOOT.
Smog and Smoke are siblings. Billowcloud is not related to them.
Anyway, Smokepaw got REALLY hurt in that fall, but did survive
A (currently unpicked) Tribe cat actually climbed all the way down to get him. He had to be carried the rest of the way.
But once safe, he really couldn't move or else jeopardize his recovery. That, paired with a lack of travelling rations and a few pregnant cats close to delivery halted the Journey.
But Smokepaw still got ribbed relentlessly for "holding everyone up." Poor guy. ShadowClan humor.
Talonpaw got really close to him in that time. In fact, a LOT of cats developed close bonds in this "intermission," including many of the cats who would ultimately support Mudclaw's claim in WindClan.
Brambleclaw and Hawkfrost, as well.
In general, this is a really important hiatus because it's adding some PIVOTAL breathing room for cats to bond free of Clan divisions.
Clan Culture is never really the same after this. It's a change a long time coming.
He is also one of Birchfall's friends. This entire apprentice/kit generation has a very odd view on Clan divisions, because the Destruction of White Hart and the subsequent journey were so formative.
It was actually Smokepaw's "idea" to make Paw Soup. It came from a suggestion towards some WindClan apprentices, that they should try to make an ancient gumbo recipe that hadn't been seen since the start of Heatherstar's campaign.
Birchkit and his big bro Spiderpaw butted in, RiverClan apprentices didn't want to be left out, and the rest is history.
They never did make that gumbo but they made something new.
At the Lake, he also prevents Talonpaw from dying to Jacques and The Dreaded Susan. By also getting his ass beat.
(But that's probably gonna be offscreen because im not dedicating several chapters to it like canon when theres a civil war that should be in focus)
Smokefall becomes the next Educator of ShadowClan, and the mate of Talonclaw. Eventually Smogfoot surrogates a kit for them-- probably Pinenose.
The couple shows up at various points throughout Po3 and OotS as very important friends of Birchfall, and general friendly faces in ShadowClan which is a major ally through the arcs.
Sadly, though, they meet a gruesome and tragic end in AVoS. The Kin is a cult, and once it takes power, it immediately targets the one who teaches history. Smokefall. Talonclaw refuses to abandon his mate.
His position is taken by the infamous Berryheart, who is the educator through TBC. He is survived by several grandkits through Pinenose-- Slatefur, Puddleshine, and Happyface.
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morningmask27 · 18 days ago
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I'm going to be bitching about Star for a while now. I'll tag them all with #asc spoilers, but really what the fuck was this book?
#morningtalks#asc spoilers#The biggest flop I've ever seen in the history of everything#How could you even fail this so badly? Where did you think these were good ideas?#The Icestar thing I'm personally miffed about because I genuinely wanted Froststar. Not for her happiness but because she's the only cat#Who felt like she had a bit of a REASON to be leader#Look for the less obvious choices. Makes a senior warrior they ALREADY CONSIDERED leader#While she was off on a whole other adventure in Another Book You Gotta Buy Now To Know What Icewing Was Up To#While the Real Plot Was Happening#Splashtail is dead already when she arrives#Do these fucking morons really just sit on their asses AGAIN up until Icewing arrives/Frostpaw wakes up?#Timeskips of hell. I hate it here#Berryheart's death is also one I am FURIOUS about#Woman Died For Her Daughter So Now She's Good and All Her Family Mourns Her#They really had to go Redemption Death for the most radioactive piece of garbage in existence#She spent THE ENTIRE ARC being an absolute shithead berating her son/trying to KILL her own daughter-in-law#Manipulating (or at least trying to) Sunbeam. Plotting against Tigerstar within and outside of ShadowClan#Was fully into the plan to trap Tiger and co ''because then she could fix ShadowClan herself and get River out''#This fucking book I swear I hate it so deeply#How do you fail such an arc?#How idiotic do you have to be to not let Sunbeam (and Spireclaw) deal with their rancid mother once and for all?#Why does Sunbeam still Love Her So Much after everything?#(okay I know Trauma and Parents and growing up within odd situations and how you still kinda love them)#But Berryheart was a Problem the entire arc#Why?#It is really just because Berryheart is Mom and this Has The Mom Instinct still?#You let some rando horrendous man kill his own daughter in SkyClan's destiny by accident. Why can't Sun and Berry fight?#I wanted some horrific death for Berry. One that would haunt Sunbeam for a long time and maybe if needed cement her choice#To not return to ShadowClan because it hurts#Yes I wanted SUNBEAM to kill Berryheart (or at the very least Spireclaw)
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henrybelly · 1 year ago
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🎤 so true. erins say more about why the majority of your crossclan relationships hinge on the female partner leaving her friends and family to join her husband's clan
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fatal-rewrites-warriors · 2 years ago
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Nightstar's family has been pretty wrought :')
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