#scooby doo mystery incorporated critical

[iminaworldofpureimagination]

Fred..

FRED WHAT DID YOU DO????!

[scooby-doobert]

saw an amazing thread on twitter about character development throughout the scooby doo franchise focused on how fred lacks character development, in contrast with the other characters

and something that really pisses me off were comments like “bro it’s just a cartoon” “it’s not that deep”

as if people can’t enjoy media through analysis and research, and cartoons are produced without a lot of depth from the creators

if you consume media without critical thinking that’s on you, honestly

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

i don't know why out of all the gags in sdmi i lose it over this one probably the most, but oh my god

something about the combination of how quick and understated it is, the extremely dark and tragic surrounding context, the scene already being really obvious innuendo, and the fact that in the midst of all this they Had to put it in for This is a Kid's Show reasons before moving on with the murder plot and the murderers' abusive relationship picking back up where it left off. and that they managed to slip a gag in without lessening the impact of that or making light of it. it's genuinely deft and it kills me every single time

[showtoonzfan]

I’m so glad I found this tweet and that somebody FINALLY fucking said it, cuz I have some thoughts. So like…..I love Mystery Inc with all my heart. It was a huge part of my childhood and it has got to be one of the best, if not THE best Scooby Doo adaptation I have ever seen. I loved the characters, I loved the mystery surrounding the old gang, I loved the horror elements….I loved it all but………yeah I was NOT a fan of the damn love triangle between Velma, Scooby and Shaggy, in fact I think it was the only main thing that held the show back even if it was a masterpiece in my eyes. Particularly my issue was with Velma as a character. Don’t get me wrong, I love how she’s characterized in this show, she’s hilarious and all, but whenever she was attached to Shaggy, good fucking god, she was absolutely insufferable and honestly unlikable. I legit HATED the way she treated Scooby, the way she got jealous over a damn dog and referred to him as “some dog”, not liking Scooby really at all and the real Velma just would never act like that in my opinion, even if she did have beef with him. The whole point of the gang is that they’re supposed to be like a family, so to see this interpretation of Velma treat Scooby like shit did turn me off a lot.

There’s legit a scene in this show I DESPISED where Scooby was literally about to die, he was on the edge of a cliff and Velma deadass had to THINK about saving him or not because in her eyes he was the source to her and Shaggy’s relationship being messy. It was such a dark and disgusting scene of her blaming him for everything when he’s literally hanging on for his dear life, of course she saves him in the end but the fact that homegirl had to think about it and even CONSIDERED not saving him pissed me off immensely. It made her character look so fucking horrible, like she was really about to let Scooby fucking die just for some Shaggy tail, I legit have no idea what the writers were thinking for that scene, like I get that Velma had beef with him but that was going WAAAY too overboard.

Also there were like….SO and I mean SO many episodes of Scooby being jealous of Velma and then having drama with Shaggy over it and I just hated whenever the show wanted to focus on this romance drama bs, again the whole love triangle between these three drove me nuts. Velma was so forceful towards Shaggy as well and I always ended up just feeling bad for the guy. I can see where the show was coming from especially since the writers admitted they wanted Velma and Shaggy’s relationship to be messed up so she could end up with Hotdog Water, but…….yeah it was not for me, and you know what’s funny? I legit enjoyed Fred and Daphne’s drama more, seeing Fred be so oblivious and loving traps while Daphne was so obliviously pinning for him was hilarious. I will never not praise this show for how it characterized Fred, making him this cinnamon roll trap loving himbo was the best decision they ever made, and whenever the show focused on THEIR relationship, I never got tired of it, which is the opposite I can say for Velma/Shaggy/Scooby. As much as I love this show, it did drag with its romance aspect. I always hated love triangles and stupid drama in teenage shows, and I feel like this show kinda suffered from that. When it comes to Velma/Hot Dog Water, they could have been handled better honestly, in contrast to how she was with Shaggy. Like…the writing could have been so much better with that, but even after everything I just said, I still love this show and think it’s great. It has its up and downs, but at the end of the day it still rocks, I just needed to get this out there since I don’t see much people talk about it. I will say I don’t HATE this version of Velma, but I will admit that it is hard to really like her after the writing made her so attached to Shaggy and so needy and almost aggressive. They did her dirty with that damn cliff scene, but in the end it is happy to know that her and Shaggy realized they weren’t good for one another and that Velma was meant to be with a girl.

[dizzybevvie]

what’s fantasy high ?^^

Fantasy High is a DnD show on yt ^^!!!!! its like, small town queer mystery, found family type shit about 6 teenagers in a school for adventurers!!!! <33

season 2 used to be behind a paywall but since season 3 is on the horizon (NEXT MONTH AHHH) theyre releasing s2 on yt now tooooo!!!

[ambitious-tea]

I just finished Scooby doo mystery incorporated and I am a bit of a disaster now it’s fINE but - They stayed together and are gonna go on a road trip and solve mysteries and go to college together and I’m not crying nope no way it’s so nice and wholesome and wonderful and exactly what I wanted from this.

This show is definitely one of my favorites.

[scooberish]

I got hit with the fleeting desire to write an in-depth analysis of Mystery Inc Fred’s arc. Despite how popular the show is, I don’t see a lot of discussions about the character arcs themselves, outside of criticism for how the relationships were handled. He’s a genuinely complex character, especially for a show called Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated. His writing isn’t perfect of course, but I think it still gets overlooked.

[darkpoisonouslove]

Personally, my top four Scooby-Doo movies, not counting the live action ones, are :Zombie Island, Witch's Ghost, Alien Invaders, and Cyber Chase.

(Though the Loch Ness Monster has a special place in my heart because of Shannon and Professor Pembroke.)

(and Monster of Mexico... I do have a love for it.)

Sorry. I just saw your post on Scooby media and I couldn't help but say something. :)

(recently got my hands on the original Scooby Doo where are you DVD set and the Scooby Doo and dyno mutt series set.)

(Dynomutt was paired with the Scooby-Doo show. The versions that introduced Scooby Dum and the 10,000 volt ghost.)

I have incredible nostalgia for Alien Invaders and The Cyber Chase! Tbh I think they're both better than people give them credit for (and I also never understood the hype over Zombie Island (which is a good movie but a lot less fun) and Witch's Ghost (which I straight up dislike EXCEPT FOR THE HEX GIRLS!)! The supporting characters in Alien Invaders are so alive; I remember them all in great detail. Along with Mystery Incorporated, this might be the best cast of characters in a Scooby Doo media. And The Cyber Chase, admittedly, may be more nostalgia but everything that happens at the last level is great and for a Scooby Doo movie it manages to have a pretty nuanced take on whether technology is useful or dangerous (it's both but it leans more towards useful and fun). The Cyber Chase is a sweet movie, you guys are just mean ('cause I've seen criticisms of it).

I was distracted when I watched The Loch Ness Monster so that might be the reason why I didn't like it a lot.

The Monster of Mexico is another nostalgia trap for me! The movie is actually... not that good. I watched it very recently and, like, it just isn't but I will probably watch it another 2 million times in the future.

It's fine! I do love to talk about Scooby Doo. I've written about 20k words worth of analyses on Mystery Incorporated and I'm not done! I will try to post those in 2025. I may have also started writing some posts for What's New, Scooby Doo and, like I said, I do plan on reviewing the movies!

(I know about the Scooby Doo/Dynomutt hour, though I can't say that I care about the Blue Falcon. Dynomutt is fun as a character!)

The second live-action movie (2004) is actually in my top 4 Scooby Doo movies! (I don't dislike the first but I think the second is better.)

The other three are the most unlikely culprits. Watching the Scooby Doo movies was such a surprise for me because literally every single movie that I was convinced I would hate turned out to be super great. I was so apprehensive about the crossovers with DC (Scooby Doo and Batman: The Brave and The Bold and Scooby Doo and Krypto Too) and Scooby Doo: Mask of the Blue Falcon but I liked them all a lot! Not so much that I'd put them in top 4 but they are definitely all in top 10!

Funnily enough WrestleMania Mystery absolutely grabbed my attention. I have never cared about WWE but I think the movie is very fun and they managed to create a pretty good mystery. It is one of the most exciting climaxes in Scooby history imo and, of course, any Scooby media that has the gang suspected of a crime has me seated.

I was positive that I'd loathe Big Top because I'm not a fan of circus mysteries. Usually because they involve clowns. However, this movie was actually pretty fun! It's a little of an acquired taste I think but hey, the Scooby gang were almost fooled! That's always a big plus for me and builds up the villain.

Probably my most favorite out of all these is Shaggy's Showdown. The idea of a western-inspired Scooby Doo movie was sure throwing me but it's actually amazing! Shaggy (who has become my favorite from the gang) gets to shine so much and making his ancestor the "villain" is an interesting direction for the movie. It's not perfectly unique (unfortunately, Frankencreepy) but it's done pretty well in this movie (again, unfortunately, Frankencreepy).

I also enjoyed Camp Scare and Abracadabra Doo a lot!

[grutadodaibo]

So, I decided to rewatch Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated, it's been 3 years since the last time I watched it, by now I am midway season 1, it has been a nice experience, I really appreciate the writers effort for trying to make a plot focused Scooby Doo show while keeping all the tropes the franchise is known for, and I keep wondering why someone at Warner Bros. haven't tried to give it a try on it again (Unless you count HBO'S Velma, but let's not talk about this, we all know how bad this show is).

But one thing that keeps coming back everytime I watch an episode of the series, is how in order for the series to work, the gang needs to be either out of character or very one note. Their dynamic is really weird because you have these two opposing forces on the series where in one hand they want us to root for their friendship and for them to stay together but at the same time when they are together they are this close 🤏 to split up and never see each other's faces again.

I kept remembering the 2002 live action movie where the gang has a similar dynamic, but there they at least have a reason for why they acted like that, they've been together for too long and can't stand each other anymore because every monster they find the same thing keeps happening, that's why they break up and keep acting completly rude and apathetic towards to each other. Here though, there really isn't a reason why, they know each other for a while, have solved some misteries by the time the show begins, but overall, they are just really toxic to each other, the prime example being the way they write Velma and Shaggy's relationship, I know that Tony Cervone has stated that this was because Velma is lesbian in the series, going through a compulsive heterosexual relationship but this is not enough to explain way her relationship with Shaggy is so messed up, with her trying to change how he talks, how he dresses, what he eats and the whole rivalry they pull out of nowhere between her and Scooby, I'm all for Velma being lesbian (Even tho I'm more of the Bi Velma team) but this really isn't the way to do it.

I stil like the show, but we all need to adress criticism when criticism is needed, specially when the show is often regarded as the best piece of midia in the franchise, and that could be a problem for new interpretations of the characters that have the same issues as the ones from SDMI.

[shoechoe]

i know i complained about this earlier but i can't get over it dude... i could criticize scooby doo mystery incorporated for a lot but i think this is like the worst thing it did hands down

[iminaworldofpureimagination]

oh shit freddie kruegers got freds dad

[threephantomrey]

apparently i’m not done talking yet so here’s another opinion. i’m very sorry if this comes off as gatekeeping or whatever but some people in Scooby fandom spaces aren’t even real Scooby fans. and what i mean by this is the people who complain about every piece of Scooby Doo media that isn’t Zombie Island or like the Mystery Incorporated series or something like that. or those people that only like the Scooby media with Shaggy and Daphne and Scooby and Scrappy in it and they’ll hate on basically anything that’s come after it. you don’t have to like every piece of Scooby Doo content. (and this isn’t directed at anyone who has voiced valid criticisms about modern Scooby, please do not misinterpret this post as me thinking people who criticize modern Scooby aren’t real fans) you don’t have to like recent Scooby content. you can like something and criticize it, that’s valid! but there comes a certain point where it just turns into people being overly negative and i wonder why some of these people are even in Scooby fandom spaces. like at this point you only like bits and pieces of Scooby Doo history you don’t like the Scooby Doo franchise.

[angorwhosebabyisthis]

there are a lot of reasons i think pericles is really slept on as one of the most tragic characters in sdmi, and they start with how easy it is to connect the dots that he took a mind-destroying curse full to the face as an infant. one that breaks adult humans and renders them unrecognizable, when pericles was not only a baby but is from a species that is explicitly much more vulnerable to it. right from the beginning of his life the entity obliterated his sense of self so thoroughly that there's not even a version of him who shows up in the Sitting Room.

fuck, man.

[pennysperfectpolls]

Here is the bracket!

Matches were determined randomly with characters with multiple submissions seeded into opposite ends of the brackets.

I literally shouted “No!” When some of these were rolled

Bracket 1

1

Harrowhark Nonagesimus (The Locked Tomb)

Rio Ranger (Your Turn To Die)

2

The girl (fear and hunger)

Bernadetta von Varley (Fire Emblem)

3

hal 9000 (2001 a space odyssey)

Luke Skywalker (Star Wars)

4

Hod (Lobotomy Corporation/ Library Of Ruina)

Gin Ibushi (Your Turn To Die)

5

Charger (Voidpets)

Oscar Pine (RWBY)

6

fred jones (scooby doo mystery incorporated)

Adrien Agreste (Miraculous Ladybug)

7

Hunter (The Owl House)

Killua Zoldyck (Hunter x Hunter)

8

Jane Doe (Ride the cyclone)

Zhang Chengling (Word of Honor)

Bracket 2

1

Kyusaku Yumeno “Q” (Bungo Stray Dogs)

Ciel Phantomhive (Black Butler)

2

Shoto Todoroki (My Hero Academia)

Lillie (Pokémon)

3

Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou (Bocchi the Rock!)

Kai Satou (Your Turn To Die)

4

Gideon Nav (The Locked Tomb)

Mai Chang (Fullmetal Alchemist)

5

Arven (Pokémon)

“Tails” miles prower (Sonic)

6

Cove Holden (Our Life: Beginnings & Always)

Caspar von Bergliez (Fire Emblem)

7

Shijima Tsukishima (Shimeji Simulation)

Mizuki Okiura (AI: the Somnium Files)

8

Ashe Ubert (Fire Emblem 3 Houses)

The Collector (the owl house)

Bracket 3

1

Freminet (Genshin Impact)

Rob (the amazing world of Gumball)

2

Liir Thropp (Wicked)

Kenzie Martin (Parahumans)

3

Isaac Moriah (The Binding of Isaac)

Essek Thelyss (critical role)

4

Dimitri alexandre blaiddyd (Fire emblem)

Angela (Lobotomy Corporation/ Library Of Ruina)

Syaoran Li (Cardcaptor Sakura)

5

Suletta Mercury (Gundam)

Shilo Bathroy (Just Roll With It)

6^

Cassandra Cain (DC Comics)

Lucy Heartfilia (Fairy Tail)

Gyutaro (Demon Slayer)

7

Furina de Fontaine (Genshin Impact)

Molly Blyndeff (Epithet erased)

8

Nona (The Locked Tomb)

Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)

Bracket 4

1

Pearl Fey (Ace Attorney)

Wanderer (Genshin Impact)

2

Falst (Aurora Webcomic)

Kokichi Oma (Daganronpa V3)

3

Elphaba Thropp (Wicked)

Shane (Stardew Valley)

4

Nahida (genshin inpact)

Ortho Shroud (twisted wonderland)

5

Natural Harmonia Gropius “N” (Pokémon)

Gregg Lee (night in the woods)

6

Emil Sinclair (Limbus Company)

Kakashi Hatake (Naruto)

7

Tony Tony Chopper (One Piece)

Zuko (Avatar the Last Airbender)

8

Alphonse Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)

Shin-Ah (Yona of the Dawn)

[ginger-snap-talkin-nonsense]

I get your connection between Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated and Supernatural (Even if it is the completely wrong series), but I’m still very unclear on the connection between Mystery Incorporated and The Walking Dead? As far as I can tell neither of those shows have crossed over with each other at all, regardless of which series it is.

The point I was making was not about them crossing over it was about tonal similarities I said I'd rather someone watch walking dead than mystery incorporated holy shit use any critical thinking

[best-bird-bash]

The Final List of Competitors!

Hawks, My Hero Academia

Revali, Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild

Big Bird, Sesame Street

The Babylon Rogues, Sonic the Hedgehog

Donald Duck, Disney

Beatrice, Over the Garden Wall

Hooty, The Owl House

Tokoyami and Dark Shadow, My Hero Academia

Flapjack, The Owl House

Tobias, Animorphs

Xiao, Genshin Impact

Tsubasa Otori, Metal Fight Beyblade

Kass, The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild

Davesprite, Homestuck

Eda the Owl lady, The Owl House

Hei Hei, Moana

Duck/Ahiru, Princess Tutu

Dick Grayson, DC

Chainsaw, The Raven Cycle

Zazu, The Lion King

Woodstock, Charlie Brown/Peanuts

Bird that Carries you over a Disproportionately Small Gap, Undertale

The Road Runner, Looney Toons

Stephanie Brown, Batman

The Raven, The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe

Matthew the Raven, The Sandman

Launchpad McQuack, Ducktales

Dee Reynolds, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Germ Warfare, Night in the Woods

Kevin, Up

Crane, Kung Fu Panda

Black Canary, DC

Blathers, Animal Crossing

Hawk and Dove, DC

Damian Wayne, DC

Jason Todd, DC

Raven, Teen Titans

Qrow Branwen, RWBY

Huey Dewey and Louie, Ducktales

Grian, Hermitcraft

Polly the Parrot, Ace Attorney

Pericles, Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated

Daffy Duck, Looney Toons

Mumble, Happy Feet

Iago, Aladdin

Eren Yeager, Attack on Titan

Cloud Retainer, Genshin Impact

Rowlet, Pokemon

Duck Guy, Don’t Hug me I’m Scared

Piplup, Pokemon

Ho-Oh, Pokemon

Della Duck, Ducktales

Kiri, Critical Role Campaign 2: The Mighty Nein

Philza, Origin SMP

King Dedede, Kirby

Celeste, Animal Crossing

Berdly, Deltarune

Lord Shen, Kung Fu Panda 2

Soren, Guardians of Ga’hoole

Scuttle, The Little Mermaid

Kaeya Alberich, Genshin Impact

Webby Vanderquack, Ducktales

Hetare, Tokyo Ghoul

Katniss Everdeen, The Hunger Games

Icarus, Greek Mythology

Stolas Goetia, Helluva Boss

Flappy Bird, Flappy Bird

Brennan Lee Mulligan, Real Life (Exception)

Zane’s falcon, Lego Ninjago

Howard the Duck, Marvel Howard the Duck

Flit, Pocahontas

Itachi Uchiha, Naruto

Colonel Sanders, KFC

Xavier Ramier/Mr. Pigeon, Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir

Stardust Cookie, Cookie Run: Kingdom

Duo, Duolingo

Ishtar. Mesopotamian Mythology

The Eagles, Lord of the Rings

Dodo, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland

Diluc, Genshin Impact

Xatu, Pokemon

Blu, Rio

Washimi, Aggrestuko

Oz (And Fischl), Genshin Impact

The Penguin, Batman

Hoothoot, Pokemon

Coo, Kirby

Dyna Blade, Kirby

Taillow, Pokemon

Staraptor, Pokemon

Farfetch’d, Pokemon

Apollo, Animal Crossing

Torchic, Pokemon

Boyd Drake, Ducktales

Wan Shi Tong, Avatar the Last Airbender

Howl Pendragon, Howl's Moving Castle

Parrot, Minecraft

Sadie Kane, The Kane Chronicles

Mordecai, Regular Show

Chicken Little, Chicken Little

Hawkeye Clint Barton, Marvel

Reaper, Overwatch

Otulissa, Guardians of Ga’Hoole

Poromon, Digimon

Horus, Egyptian Mythology

Callum, The Dragon Prince

Foghorn Leghorn, Looney Toons

Magpie, Inkheart

Billina the Yellow Hen, Oz

Hasshie, ClassicaLoid

Longclaw, Sonic the Hedgehog

Swatch, Deltarune

The Bird, Portal 2

Jose Carioca, The Three Caballeros

Falco, Star Fox

Kaepora Gaebora, The Legend of Zelda

Tuca and Bertie, Tuca and Bertie

Owlowiscious, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic

Owl, Winnie the Pooh

Crowberry Cookie, Cookie Run: Kingdom

Nightingale, The Nightingale and the Rose

Loftwing, The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

Orville, Animal Crossing

Scrooge McDuck, Ducktales

Piu Piu, Molang

Kaneki Ken, Tokyo Ghoul

Magica De Spell, Ducktales

Cerrit Agrupnin, Critical Role Exandria Unlimited: Calamity