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popculturebuffet · 2 months ago
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Into the Bobbins Verse: Your Guide to the Works of John Allison
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So this is a little side project that's been bubbling in my brain. So Next Month, grod willing, I begin a retrospective i've wanted to do since I started this blog that i've put off for various reasons: Wanting to do the comic it's a spinoff of first, loosing most of my copies of said comic, my terrible scheduling skills, etc. I will be covering the comic book Giant Days. All 57 issues across two volumes, all the specials all of it.
But while gearing up for this i've not only fallen in love with giant days all over again but John Allisons other myraid of works he's slowly been putting back up online. And it's great stuff: i've mad it a concious goal to both get the rest of giant days AND bad machinery in print and whatever else I can grabble before inevitably the number of books avaliable becomes too small and the prices shoot up.
So I want to share that love with all you fine people paticuarlly my friends and patreons, as well as have a nice catalogue handy of John's MANY works for personal refrence and for anyone to use.
So for this guide i'll be going in a rough chronological order rather than release order, but 9/10 you can read most of these without having picked up another work. Before we can dive in though
WHO THE FLIP IS JOHN ALLISON
John Allison is a british author and very loveably weird man. He has a penchant for snappy dialouge, being unapologetically british in his settings and nicely bouncing back between slice of life, mystery and supernatual shenanigans, sometimes in the same comic. He's been at this since 1998 working primarily on the web with various web comics, cycling them out when he gets a new idea or when something has run it's course, breaking into print with his ongoing series Giant Days and since doing a few series there on and off. He's got a quirky sensebility and the bulk of his earlier work is set in the quirky english town of Tackleford before branching out to the small hamlet of Tregdin and the bustling real life town of Shefield. He is by all accounts a very nice guy, interacts with his fans regularly and is again a very deeply weird man in the best way possible, once saying he'd prefer any crossovers he does to be unexpected ones like Giant Days meeting Rom Space Knight.. and proving it by releasing his planned but shelved Batman Giant Days one shot to promote that books library editions on kickstarter.
So with that i'll be going in rough chronological order and telling you where you can read them.
DAS COMICS
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Bobbins Classic:
Avaliable on Keenspot
I'm only mentoning this one for historical reasons as it was Allison's first.. and it shows. Bobbins dosen't look great for the bulk of i'ts life, only getting better when John switched to using Adobe Illustrator which while mildly dated, helped the art considerably.
Bobbins is an unfocused comic about a bunch of 20 somethigns working at a listings magazine in Tackleford. I'll talk more about it's cast in the next entry as their mostly just undefined blobs doing random shit: it's an early webcomic and thus has that throw shit at the wall and see what sticks sensiblity a lot had, with reality being loose, plot twists being thrown in and a lot of characters that go nowhere, with John having not quite figured out what he wanted. By the end he decided to abandon it leading to his breakout work. But more on that in a minute as for the strips anniversary.. he did a remake
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Bobbins.Horse Avaliable At: scarygoround.com
Bobbins.Horse was intitally just a fun experiment: John went back to the original and wanted to fill in a major gap important to Bobbins sequel Scary Go Round: How goofy well meaning weird ray of sunshine Shelley Winters became best friends with the younger, wild and tatooed sass mouth Amy Chilton. In doing so he realized there was a lot of raw potetial in his old concept, and decided to do a bunch of comic strips. It's a soft reboot: parts of the original are still canon as John eventually found the format too limiting for how much his art had evolved, but it expands on loose concepts from a bitter young man into the detailed characte orinted stuff Allison would go on to make.
Bobbins.Horse is a good time and a solid entry point that follows Shelly and Amy. Amy at the time is a just turned 18 teen with a history of acting out caught in a divorce between her uncaring mom and doting but strict fater who dosen't know the real her. In the middle of writing a sex and the city style collumn, throwing a halloween party, dealing with Shelly's high school boyfriend she's outgrown and other shenanigans, are their friends and co workers: Tim, a sideburned decked soon to be inventor and gentlemen whose not intrested in Amy's obvious antics, Holly, SHelly's friend and local asshole, Rich, Tim's horny best friend and Ryan, Shelly and Tim's muttual close friend from high school, a wistful weirdo and layabout slowly getting out of the hole he's trapped in.
Bobbins.Horse is fantastic stuff, nicely segues into Allison's big work on which he formed the core of this unvierse and is one of my faviorites. Check it out. Also check out expecting to fly, a two issue comic allison did that's on his gumroad page (I'll link it in the next entry) that gives the origins of Shelley, Ryan and Tim.
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Scary Go Round Found At: John's Gumroad Store
Scary Go Round was John Allison's big breakout work. The work that would help define his career. It defined his cast and who it didn't define it created. Scary Go Round is the swirling primordial core from which all of Allison's later works sprung.
It was originally intended as a full spinoff, with John not bringing his original cast back. This lasted all of one story before they quickly came back and his killing off Bobbins lead Shelley outraged fans enough to lead to a long and fantastic arc where Ryan, in his grief and with advice from a creepy old man, brings Shelley back from the dead. With this arc Scary Go Round had it's clear direction: A mix of slice of life and supernatual elements with Shelley, Ryan and soon Amy at it's core. Tim was at it's core at first but eventualy left.
Over the comic a massive amount of new characters came in to join the crew: Hugo, a track suited sandwich owner and wannabe mogul, The Boy, Tim's hormonal shy assitant, Erin, Shelley's resentful sister, and Esther, a perky goth who would get her own series soon enough. We also got Desmond fishman, a literal fishman who despite the verse leaning more towards the grounded these days, sticks around and has gone on quite the journey.
The comic did well.. but started to slip as Allison started to loose intrest, in part because he was stuck with a large cast, some of whom he cared about more than others. Introducing teens to the cast was a good idea, but he admitted regret to not giving them their own comic and instead trying to mash the two groups together. He eventually ended things and came up with a few spinoffs. The first would be his first mainstream hit, the second his biggest mainstream hit and the third.. well it sure did happen.
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Avalible: Three Web Issues are at scarygoround.com, print issues are avaliable wherever books are sold probably and in digtial on amazon and are part of comixology unlimited if your intrested in binging this one.
Giant Days is John's most succesful work. That's not hyperbole, he says so on his own website. It's also the one that brought me to the dance, having gotten the first volume digitally for only a dollar and quickly devouring every inch of his work that was around at the time.
Giant Days follows Esther to college, quickly picking up two new friends; Daisy, a naive and optimistc but wise puffy haired girl from a small town and Susan, a cynical detective/med student who never lacks a sharp quip. Joining them as they grapple with college are Ed, a sunny naive programmer with a hopeless crush on Esther, McGraw, ed's best friend and susan's former friend who it's complicated with and workman extrodinare and Dean Thomas, an obnoxious entitled ass who sorta oozed his way into the boys lives. Our cast deal with the ups and downs of University life.
The comic started with three more experimental issues that got the format down: tight one in done stories that made up a larger narrative and were more grounded slice of life shenanigans without the supernatural stuff of Scary Go Round or Bad Machinery. There were still some growing pains: the first issue took on a more scott pilgrim bent than any of john's other work and the third included Erin before John decided to not use her after all due to developments in other comics. Still it was set and he wanted to do the project: while it was originally set up as a failsafe in case his next flagship bad machinery failed, it was something he wanted to do, he just didn't have the bandwith to draw it himself, having moved on from illustrator mid scary go round. Thankfully he found Boom, found great creative partners in Lissa Tremain (for the first 6 issues ) and Max Sarin (everything else), and the rest is history. Giant Days is a wonderful comic with loads of character, gorgeous art, and a nice combo of one in done single issues that merge into one long epic.
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Destory History:
Avaliable: ScaryGoRound.com
Destory history like Giant Days takes place in the gap between Scary Go Round and it's more direct sequel Bad Machinery. Like Giant Days it was made in case the big shifts with Bad Machinery didn't quite pan out. Unlike Giant Days Though while Allison returned to it once or twice it didn't take off. Following Shelley in London as she journeys thorugh time it only got one story that has yet to be fully concluded as Allison just hasn't felt it.
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Avaliable At: gocomics.com or in print
Bad Machinery was John's first mainstream success and helped him get to giant days which in turn boosted Bad Machinery's profile despite BM's publisher, Oni Press, turning it down, a decision they no doubt regretted.
Bad Machinery takes place 5 years after Scary Go Round. Ryan and Amy are now playing support as a teacher and local antiques dealer (And to my delight a married couple), as is Erin as a local reporter. The bulk of it's main cast are precicious kids who debuted towards the end of Bad Machinery: Charlotte Grote, a spacey ragamuffin with a mind for mystery, her tough but kind bestie Shauna, the shy ,nervous and Imaginative Jack and Jack's best mate nad pain in the ass Linton. Joining them in the series proper are Mildred, a wild child with a scientfic mind, and Sonny, a shy boy of few words, and eventually claire, a girl with a lisp, some pyromania and a kind soul.
The kids would solve mysteries as they slowly grew, often with a supernatual bent while dealing witht he perils of growing up: rivalries, bullying, family drama, relationships, growing apart.. all the pain of adolsecnse that got increasingly grounded. There was still magical mysteries, but as the kids grew their problems did and eventaully they outgrew the format, with John ending the series. He's since returend to the former mystery kids giving three of them their own spotlights we'll get to. It's a great run and well worth your time if you like kids getting into shenanigans and danger, which I know is most of my audience.
That and Murder She Writes:
Avaliable at: John's Gumroad
Two one off stories john did that follow Lottie and Shelley. Shelley was largely absent from Bad Machinery apart from mentions of her, to help let the new main characters settle in, but was given a few one offs to show she'd become both a succesful author and Charlotte's mentor.
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New Bobbins: Avaliable: Via Gumroad or John's Patreon
New Bobbins was an experiment that didn't quite work out, updating us on the old guard at the same time as Bad Machinery. Due to both pushing the timeline forward more than he wanted to for BM and getting all dramatic, John Quitely canceled this revival, but did bring it back to wrap up loose ends. In fact he intended to end his comics as a whole, only keeping giant days, but realized he coudln't part. This era also includes Mordawaa which is also on gumroad and I won't go into due to spoilers.
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Avaliable: John's Patreon and for Heavy Metal Hearts and Flowers, Archive.Org
Various bibs and bobs I thoguht lost but... nope . YOuc an find most on john's patreon if you fancy and the graphic novel heavy metal hearts and flowers, which It hought lost, is on the internet archive.
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Avaliable: In print or digital
Not super necessary to the lore but a fun side story about two friends documenting strange stuff. Need to read this one in full sometime.
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Avaliable: First arc: in Print via Darkhorse or digital via amazon. Other Arcs: in print and online via scarygoround.com.
Steeple was like By Night a break from the usual group of Allison Regulars, with an all new cast following prelate Billie and her new friend Maggie.. who happened to be working for the chruch of satan. It started as a mini series at dark horse that john continued on his web site that dark horse printed, ending earlier this year when Dark HOrse decided they were done, though with hints john would pick up the characters again.
It follows the small town of tregdyn, where monsters rise from the sea, a preist hunts them, the local santatic minister thinks he's a super villian and his helper brian is a kind of werewolf. It's a return to the more supernatual stuff tha'ts fun, engaging and good stuff. It eventually firmly became bobbins canon, with Lottie doing a guest spot to find a missing shelley and shelley eventaully dating the local preist what hutns monsters.
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Avaliable: Print and Digital
Wicked Things is the comics equilvent of a failed Pilot. It's still canon, but due to the independent publishing scene drying up slightly, it failed to get the sales to go to full series. As such it follows Lottie a few years after bad machinery, on the cusp of university.. only to loose it when she's framed for murder, this 6 part mini covering her working with the london police as the quirky kind of consultant you see again these days with Elsbeth or High Potetial. Had the series come just a few years later it probably would've been a big hit. Probably. Lottie gets aquitted but who framed her is left dangling.. and that becomes the catlyst for Lottie's next adventure
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Avaliable at: badmachinery.com. Yes I know it's confusing bad machinery isn't on there.
After a pilot and the crossover, John went full hog into Charlotte's next phase of her life: at a crossroads and working as a barista, a meeting with new zeland immigrant Glenn, a careers advisor working the grind of the job to have a place to sleep, finally lights a fire under a restless Lottie. Quickly solving her bestie Clarie's school issues, teh duo head to sheffield, and Lottie quickly decides rather than be a detective to become a problem solver, fixing people's issues while trying to avoid finding a longterm solution for her life and dragging Glenn in as he's good at presnting stuff. IT's one of my faviorite thigns John's done, nicely evolving Lottie and CLarie, adding in glenn for flavor and even bringing back Dena. No one asked him too but it works out. The series is currently running through a direct sequel to wicked things, Wobbly Head and Solver as a whole stands on it's own well enough to jump righ tinto. Please do
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Avaliable At: badmachinery.com
John Allison's latest pilot and what seems to be a bold new ongoing that's both a prequel and a sequel as Jack from bad machinery, who god already wasn't all that fond of, gets the short end of the stick again: he's sent back to the 90's, can't say anything about the future and is left stuck not remembering WHY he was sent there and with only a college age Shelley as an ally. It's a eerie yet still deeply funny work and I can't wait to see more of it at some point next year after Wobbly Head concludes.
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Avaliable: in print and digital
Taking place around the same time as solver, GBBO reunites Allison and Sarin for a quick and breezy four part murder mystery at UK Bakery Tent. Shauna is invited to participate but soon witnesses an attempted murder with her new friends and fellow bakers Sunil and Jil. Now Shauna has to both try and solve a mystery before anyone else is poisoned, and not get eliminated while almost everyone around her is a suspect.
So there you go. A bunch of good poitns to start with, a bunch of great comics all outlined. Get out ther eand start reading and thanks for reading this
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prokopetz · 2 years ago
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I occasionally check in on what unhinged side project the Scary Go Round guy has going this week, for old time's sake, and apparently this time around it's a meticulously researched mid Claremont era (1985–1986) X-Men pastiche?
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circleturk · 2 years ago
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I’ve used Teodor’s lines before to make fun of British food lmao I love achewood so much. Scary Go Round is also in my top five webcomics of all time
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2003. do you realize how ahead of its time achewood was
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ambeauty · 8 months ago
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The most obvious and consistent issue with Sydney and Carmy is their inability to communicate honestly about what they are feeling when they feel it. Instead of telling Sydney that he needs her and that he doesn’t ever want to lose her or for her to leave him.. he drafts up a marriage contract partnership agreement. And to apologize for dumping the entire opening of their restaurant on her and to let her know that she’s all he ever thinks about… he gifts her a custom made designer chef coat🤣😩😭
This man is so fucking stupid! I CAN NOT!
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wizardemotions · 1 year ago
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i had to get the slytherins out of my head. also the dynamic i personally imagine for eighth year drarry
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sergle · 5 months ago
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for the webcomic Girlies, I still want to mention at any point possible that Octopus Pie, Vattu, Gunnerkrigg Court, Kill Six Billion Demons, and Bad Machinery/Scary Go Round, which, apparently you can't find that one (these ran from 2009-2017) but you can still read that here lmao
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crossbackpoke-check · 2 years ago
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Why I Am Not Coming In To Work Today [abridged], Jess Zimmerman
part one | part two
#me when everybody is posting the maple leafs sad narratives and i am furiously generating this like HOLD ONNNN HOLD ONNNNNNN#honestly i could've been SOOOO MEAN about this because i saw this poem & alexandra got the preview on the poetry blog#where i just reblogged the first half of this poem point blank with the tags#kyle dubas#toronto maple leafs#& got yelled at aksdaksf & it literally only didn't go on this blog bc i usually write more & then it was percolating & i looked up the poe#& it was only the FIRST PART i'd reblogged i didn't know there was more & then brain immediately went brrrrr ok time for an edit.#this is a long one lol & i also have no idea if it makes sense to anybody but me but because y'all know me i will always overexplain so!!#my reasoning for the reasons obvi kyle. that's a given i hope he's doing well i hope he & his family r good but man is not coming in to wor#the second edit took me a stupid amount of time bc i am nitpicky but also i learned how to do the layers & transparency from the claude edi#that actually y'all don't know about lmao but i lost my mind when i saw how perfectly those pictures align i was scrolling getty & was like#ok december i'm gonna do a headline one (in my brain with the november/june quote about choosing to die again) w/ maple leafs playoff odds#how they say at winter break you know who's gonna be in the playoffs & who'll win & they thought they had a shot but it's mitchie overlaid#the 2003-04 team who'd last won a playoff round with the atlantic division stats from dec for 22-23 & how long it's been & dec headlines#i wanted breakup/recent/never loved to be a recent trade acquisition somebody who bounced around & somebody else so i almost had simmer#brodie & zar but then i wanted to make murray for breakup at any time &i forgot zar & him were on the pens together &it hit me like a truc#bc there's a photo of the two of them EXACTLY the same so close it's scary of this one but them as pens so they had to be it & i did always#know never loved again was mitchie. sorry. also mitchie in the penalty box the last game but i couldn't find footage of it & this one works#no i could not find a photo of tyler bertuzzi fighting a leaf for a dog looked at me yes i tried.#i almost made the bunting photo jt but instead it's 'bunting a rat etc' anyway the one i really feel unhinged about is dead pets bc at firs#i was gonna make it the handshake line & look to see if the leafs had drafted anybody on the panthers (dead pet former draft pick)#& they had & it was carter verhaeghe & i couldn't get a good pic of matthews & verhaeghe but it's fine bc i thought about the mo/luke schen#narrative (in which they are a perfect d pair long lost) & schenn was drafted by the leafs & that line fits jut trust me. also how i feel#about the kniesy luminous line that one possessed me it had to be kniesy idk why. i almost put gussy as girls are too pretty though ALSO#did u like my joke. daylight SAVINGS time on the goalie. thank u. also my photo magic on the jt (me very poorly editing in him as an isle)#OK ALSO HOLD ONNNNN there is a part two but i have to wait for the Content i want it will come out as soon as [redacted] or sooner#if i get bad at waiting &everyone will pretend like it is always the way it will be once i have the photos i want. speaking of did the leaf#simply not take a team photo this year?? it Does Not Exist for me i have tried very hard to look for it also i'm excited for part 2#one of them is named oh you're so unhinged for this one & the finished product is you're unhinged in ways you didn't even know u were sorry#liv in the replies
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icewindandboringhorror · 1 year ago
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sneeping with his legs up over his head for some reason... weird boye
#cats#love the second picture... skrungly sleepy well rested boye face...#since he's an elderly boy now sometimes when he wakes up from a nap he looks a bit scruffy and squinty eyed#Hard to beleive he's like 15 though.. he still looks like a kitten to me.. due to his giant round creature eyes and childlike demeanor#I think it's interesting that like... baby cats are babies. kittens are kittens. and you can tell a cat is like 'young adult' phase#looking from like a few months to maybe 1yr or 2yrs.. but after that they just always look the same to me#a 5 yr old cat is a 10 yr old cat is a 15 year old cat. unless the cat in question is particulalry aged or youthful#I still have so so little energy... it's been icy here this week. like not even FUN but just scary icy even thoguh i lOOOVE the cold#and its my favorite weather. I think it'd be okay actually if I had a woodburning stove/fireplace/hearth thing. literally thats my only#concern with the power going out. I genuinely don't mind stuff like having to go to the bathroom in buckets or cook over a fire or do other#less conveninet things. Its just that if eveyrhtng is electric then you have no way to cook and all of that. well.. and I literally need#background noise to go to sleep lest my ocd sprials become so loud I am slowly driven into maddness.. but a few battery packs or something#and a phone with one downloaded video I could play on repeat is fine for that. I dont need internet. ANYWAY.. so so sad that my fav#orite season ever (winter) is here. and the first cold of the winter is like... just an ice storm that you cant even walk in. I#love like 4 feet of snow where you can play in it and stuff. But just a thin flat sheet of a few inches of ice over every imaginable surfac#is not really playable. the wind speeds are so high and so many trees fall it's actually not that safe to go hang out outside anyway unless#you were in a totally clear open field. which is SAD also because i love ice and high winds. i love to stand out there and get whipped in t#he face with ice crystals and feel like I'm in some dramatic movie or something. but alas.. the threat of being attacked by a falling tree.#I did go out some but again it's like. literallyyou cant walk on it. so I just squatted and dragged myself along the ground lol#One of my stories has a whole section where the main characters are trapped in a deadly cold environment for a week and have to use magic#to survive and etc. etc. so I'm always like.. ouuu.. I should go in the ice.. it's Writing Research actually.. *foolishly gets frostbite*#THOUGH yesterday I went on a harrowing evil journey down a bunch of icy hilly roads to go check on some person's cat because the cat#had been left in the house for like 5 days at that point with nobody to check on them and nobody else seemed to want to do anything#about it (like call all of the neighbors or try to get someone out there) so I just went myself with a roommate who agreed to drive me.#It seemed acting totally normal and I gave it more food and water but.. I am still worried about it.. Apparently the person will be able#to get back to their house tomorrow but.. I dont trust them. But I couldnt take the cat with me because it's like.. a stranger's cat#basically and also no carrier + very skittish.. so I feared if I just tried to carry them bare handed they'd definitely leap from my grasp#and then it'd be like.. sliding on a sheet of ice chasing a cat and so on.. I still think they need to be watched for health issues tho >:|#ANYWAY.... many cat adventures lately... and strange weather... I wish for a normal week without always so many Things Happening.. augh
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workingforitallthetime · 5 months ago
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popculturebuffet · 10 days ago
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A Sizeable Giant Days Retrospective: Part 1: Love and Friendship Through Small Fires (Giant Days Indie 1-3)
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Hello all you happy people! I'm Jake, I review comics and today starts a project i've been wanting to do since I started this blog. Today I begin a long through look at Giant Days, one of my favorite comics of all time and the best set college story i've either read or scene.
For those of you less familiar with this series, i.e. my handful of regular readers: Giant Days is a slice of life series from John Allison. Allison is one of my favorite writers in any medium, a man with deft character work, great comedy and fantastic art. It's not a coincidence two of his comics, this one right here and Solver, a fantastic soft reboot of one of his finest character Lottie Grote. We'll get to her in a minute but now here's here as a dog house.
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That image lives rent free in my head and you will not be getting context for it today.
Giant Days follows three women as they enter college:
Esther DeGroot, a cheeful, intellgent goth who has a lot of compassion and a habit for not thinking anything through. Susan Ptolemy, a hardned gumshoe turned med student who smokes like a chimney, thinks as little of humanity as possible and has never met a cutting remark she didn't like.
Daisy Wooten, our last lead and a kind pile of hair whose naive as she is warm, open and optimistic.
There's two other sort of leads in Ed, who we'll get to shortly and McGraw, who we'll get to next time and close to 60 issues. The series is refreshingly done: the series as a whole has a ton of plots going on, character development, call backs, and setups, many of which I noticed reading it in one go after getting a few trades I was missing and my wonderful fan and friend @weirdkev27 getting me the rest for christmas. Yet most issues are nice little one and done stories you can pick up and read whenever you want. Allison is the master of single issue stories, and is a pro at making issues you can pick up and enjoy, while also setting up for bigger payoffs. Giant Days is one wonderful ride and i'm glad to get started all over again, this time taking you all along.
For this first part i'll be looking at the past of one Esther DeGroot before this comic, and the first three issues of it, all self published before Boom Picked it up. All this and Enya, Death Metal, aborted additions to the cast, awkward bedroom talk and one of the most beautiful scenes in comic history. If you'd like to read these issues in paticular you can on Allison's Website if you want.
And if not or if your all caught up join me under the cut!
The Pre-History of Esther Fontenella DeGroot
Before Giant Days, there was Scary Go Round. Scary Go Round was John Allison's second webcomic and first hit. While his previous comic Bobbins had a fan or two, it was messy and random like most early webcomics were till they found their focus.
For John it was a group of 20 somethings he salvaged from Bobbins: Shelley Winters, a charming and peppy redhead whose a bucket full of weird, Tim Jones, local inventor, ladies man and he of massive sideburns, Ryan Beckwith, a weird but charming layabout with a penchant for pet crows and ladies, and Amy Beckwith, Shelley's best friend and overconfident art student with a habit for tattoos and bad choices but a down to earthness her friends badly lack.
It's a solid comic you can buy here on Allison's gumroad.
It's also where a certain goth enterted the scene, then as a high schooler who along with her friends was pissed Amy chatted up the lead singer of their favioite band and took things a touch too far as they couldn't just call her mean names on twitter yet.
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Esther and Friends were a lot rougher and weren't really intended to come back just quickly end this storyline because John needed an ending, something he's admitted happened a LOT during Scary Go Round and why he planned things out more later. It's also an arc that included this
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This isn't remotely relevant to the discussion, but have you REALLY lived if you haven't shown your audience a metal band following the bidding of a mantis from doncaster who lives in a man's beard and eats his pepperamis?
As you can also see John used Adobe Illustrator in these days. He'd go back to drawing things by hand. It's not terrible art but it lacks the heart of the stuff he'd draw by hand though having seen the original Bobbins and been someone desperate to get content out, I fully understand going with this option as he still did creative stuff with it.
Esther was set to be like these guys, stuck in comics limbo with only an elder god mantis to keep them company, but she got lucky as Allison was feeling stuck in a rut. In his words from the intro to the third ebook for scary go round
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So to scratch his itch Allison decided to focus on another minor character: The Boy. The Boy , aka Eustance Boyce, was a pineapple headed sack of hormones and awkward that worked for Tim as his assitant and quickly gained a crush on Amy as she's already a friendly slightly older woman, once you add tattooes it's game over man game over. He got over the crush because Allison had nothing else to do with it and was given a starring story the child alongside the rest of the teen cast. This included a new challenger, Erin Winters
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Erin is Shelley's sister, and he opposite: Bitter, cynical and mean to most people, with it later being clear a lot of this comes from being stuck in Shelley's sizeable shadow of weirdness and pep.
Esther was also reintroduced, initally as a mildly creepy goth girl who had a crush on the boy, but quickly evolved into her final form: a bubbly goth who liked to snark, had a kind heart and a low tolerance for jerks, not happy when her friends from before Sarah and Big Lindsay decided to put Erin's head in a toilet to keep her away from the boy. This instead lead to the two becoming friends as Esther found a soggy Erin and helped her clean up as Erin was scared to tell her mum.
This friendship became strong lasting a few stories.. but sadly polyamory wasn't a thing in the mid 2000's so instead this love triangle came to a sad conclusion with the story Giant Days. Tim had been banished after his girlfriend sabtoaged him in an invent off, you know usual relationship drama that coul dhappen in any comic so the Boy and Esther skipped school to go look for him. Erin was painfully aware her chances were low, if mature enough to recognize that it wasn't esther's fault she developed faster. We also get a nice flashback I completley forgot about where a younger, far shyer and far more violent esther met the boy and likely started fanciing him.
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I mostly included this for that shot of young esther up top.. she just looks so shy and scared... but still enough of who she is to set Milford's crotch on fire. Milford is the boy's friend, the kind of friend you have in high school due to proximity and classes more than actually liking them as a human being and can't wait to never see again.
The Boy does another brave act by trying to scare some demon bears away, and the result is.. well
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It's a genuinely sweet moment and while I remembered the use of these twos sexuality a lot worse.. Allison is pretty tactful about it and the fact these are teens. You can't NOT talk about sex, but it dosen't use it for fanservice.
Sadly.. this ends Erin and Esther's friendship, as Erin runs away sobbing after piecing it all together. You'd think this would lead to years of drama and what not over what happened, maybe piecing the friendship back together.. but by this point Allison had gotten tired of Erin so he wrote her out and due to the sheer exaustion of also trying to tie up a bunch of other plot points just.. had her end up in hell with Allister Crowley who'd tried to make her his bride (Though thankfully is later established to have died soon after they got to hell, Hooray!), and everyone get amnesia that Erin ever existed so he could move on. It's a story i'm not fond of, probably won't revisit unless I cover Scary Go Round as a whole at some point, and is one of the low points in both this strip and Allison's work. I love the man but this was a stupidly convoluted way of solving the plot line and writing erin out when a simple trip aborad and dumping Crowley alone in hell would do.
So Esther and the Boy continued on, happy as can be and with Esther dragging him into more nonsense. Eventually Sarah came back now the best friend spot was open again, soon sporting pink hair and a bit nicer attitude. Big Lindsay.. would be written off with a teen pregnancy because John was not great at writing characters off, but he thankfully was also great at taking that aside and fleshing Big Lindsay out considerably when she shows up in Giant Days. More on that in part 3.
Sarah stuck around as Esther's sidekick, even getting her own storyline. Unfortuantely that storyline was dating the mid 20 something Ryan. To Allison's credit he clearly regrets this: nothing like this has happened again and when brought up in Giant Days Esther isn't exactly proud to bring it up
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It's not great as Shelley fully supports it and while Ryan's awkward about the whole thing, he dosen't exactly stop it and it's treated as entirely normal and not you know.. gross and wrong. A lowpoint in his life yes, but it's also treated as an obstacle to his endgame relationship with Amy. Scott Pilgrim made some mistakes, I got into them in my review of the series and Takes Off took steps to rectify some of them, but it was at least always the intention that Scott dating a 17 year old was a sign he was in a bad fucking place.
To his credit John realized this as in addition to above there's another age gap that's about the same length that pops up next time that's treated as it should, along with a creepy predator down the road, and Bad Machinery has Ryan move on to teaching children somehow and being his best self. It's still not good by any stretch and I wish I could've slinked past it like planned, but it's something Allison clearly learned from and thankfully didn't repeat.
This whole mess happened as Scary Go Round was winding down. John had grown tired of it's sprawling nature and had hit a wall with most of the cast, so he decided to end it. And his original plan was... look I don't like that this section keeps turning into Dunk on John Allison and i'l l have plenty of good to say.. but the original ending, outlined in the final collection, is pure uncut crack cocaine
So in a few storylines, John had introduced a mysterious vistor with long black hair clearly meant to resemble/be Michael Jackson using his possible son "The Child", resembling Jackson's own son, to sew chaos. he's the one being burned in effigy on Erin and the Boy's sorta date above.
So the original plan was for the boy to accidently shoot Eustace after a wild teen party, and then resurrect him from the dead to avoid "da law". Zombie Eustace would then go to prom with Esther who rejects him for eating brains. This causes Zombie Eustace to go on a rampage and kill the bulk of the secondary cast before somehow fusing with Michael Jackson and the Child to form a three headed giant monster. Tim would return to give Esther super robot armor and Esther would end the series killing her boyfriend. Also this somehow gets Ryan and Amy together.
DA END
So yeah there's a super duper cursed timeline out there where instead of dealing with blowing up her relationship with Eustace early in the comic.. Esther would be dealing with having blown up Eustace. And most of downtown Tackleford.
Jackson's death meant changing the storyline at the last minute, so instead of being about a zombie nightmare, the final story was instead a soft pilot for Allison's next main comic Bad Machinery. Bad Machinery leaned fully into the school thing, focusing on six kids from age 11-12 to their mid teens as they solved a supernatual mystery each book and dealt with normal tween and teen struggles along the way that the monster was often a metaphor for or tied to in some way. It's fantastic stuff and can be read on go comics in it's entirety.
So one half followed Lottie, Sarah's Sister and Shauna, Lottie's best friend as they finished the boy in a way that wasn't an orgy of blood and robot fists, while the teen characters all prepared for College and to leave, a morose but well done ending. Shelley also left to go to london, Ryan and Amy implicitly got together before being married during the timeskip to Bad Machinery.
DA END
So while Bad Machinery was always planned as John's next main project, he was still a tad nervous this early in his career about fan reaction and it took a little bit for Bad Machinery to warm on his old fanbase. It thankfully did, and would go on to be his second biggest project.
Still John had another in the back pocket, and thus Giant Days was born. John had always intended to have someone else draw the comic, but drew a first issue as a proof of concept.. then never heard back from Oni Press. He published it online, it got a great reaction so he made two more issues to help sell it. Eventually the stars alligned at a convention, he met with Boom and Giant Days became a full ongoing with art by Lisa Tremain for the first 6 issues and Max Sarin for the rest aside from a few fill ins and one shots. This resulted in Allison's most succesful work and the one he's most proud of. Nearly 5 years of comics. Let's get started
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We begin with Esther's first day at university, with her parents dropping her off and her dad imparting some sage advice about how accidental fires can be good conversation starters. She has a tearful goodbye with them, one that feels extra painful having re-read the whole series and knowing how distant they'll become
But enough omnius hints at the future. While Esther is one of the leads, Giant Days is an ensemble piece and we soon meet Daisy
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It's a nice moment and solid start that says a lot about Daisy before we really unpack her: the big ole truck she overfilled, her avoiding being an "inconvience", her shyness to start. It still feels slightly off, like a lot of pilots do, Daisy feels more passive than she does later, it's remarkable how fantastic she is on the first go.
That also applies to our third lead, as the girls noise wakes a local goblin woman they'll soon come to know as their best friend
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It's so damn perfect. It shows Susan as angry, irational, a chain smoker and her magnificent fangs. I just love the pointy fangs and the bedhead and he rnear feral shout of "IN A WEEK" it's so good and expressive. The fangs sadly do not make the jump to Lisa Tremain's art while Max Sarin opts to use them for effect only, something that's fair but still a shame. Luckily Allison will draw two issues of the boom run so we get plenty more of susie with her baracuda fangs.
For now Esther lets the beast sleep, clearly already impressed but also well aware trying to wake her for lunch would cost her a limb. She and Daisy are instant besties though: Esther admires her sweetness and Daisy loves her confidence.. and says it outloud because she's a precious fluffy bean.
So after some bad food the two decide to hit the pub later as it's subsidized. Unfortunately for Esther she now has other problems as the Head Girls from a bunch of other girls show up, your standard mean girl bitch posse squad team. The Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team lie about Daisy being there and abduct gothie while Daisy tries knocking. Susan fills her in on what she missed and invites Daisy in. I love this as it shows that as standoffish as Susan delights in being her reaction to Daisy is largely the same as Esther: She sees someone who needs a friend and provides it. She's trollier about it sure
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But still offers our tall stack of floof a cup of tea. I also need that snake mug yesterday. The two hit the shops while Susan internally private eye monologues, something that won't last but I love deeply. She reveals she's from Northampton, a big city I assumed John Allison had came up with but no. Like our main setting of Sheffield, it's very real and in later works John became more fond of using real places, leaving Tackleford behind unless necessary after Bad Machinery. She also talks about having to let the heat die down, which impresses me as even this early John likely had her backstory locked in. But we'll get into her past more next time, for now she correctly pegs Daisy as from a four house village in the idylic countryside. She's wrong about their being a neighborhood crow but hey even batman's fucked up. No detective is 100%.
Meanwhile Esther has an awful night as the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team go on about their bofyriends, assume Eustace is on drugs or ripped or something, and generally make Esther want to flee, which she does if not before they trash the dining hall.
Esther wisely brings Daisy an apology breakfast, with Susan joining them.. not because of Esther though.
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That second panel is perfection: The weirdly realistic enjya, the stuffed animals, Daisy's sweatband which like her love of Enya will be a thing from now on her just blank squashed face as she fears for her life from the cruel elder god standing in her doorframe. It's beautiful.
It's also telling Daisy.. holds nothing against Esther for the incident. Their as close as they already were, while she and Susie now form a bond on mutual hatred. It's a lovely thing.
We also get another thing i'm shocked stuck this early: Daisy's taking Archeology which will be her major. Esther's is literature suprising few and as i've mentioned Susie P is pre med.
So in her next class we meet our fourth main character. I mentioned Ed earlier. He's a lanky guy who has a giant mane of hair this early on and falls for esther at first sight
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He's a super nerd, into battlestar galactica back when that was a thing, but while she doesn't share his intrest in sci fi she's a pretty goth girl whose nice to him. As an awkard neard myself, especailly when I was ed's age that was everything. I was also a tad stupid as is Ed, whose kind and makes good jokes, but also lets his hormones do the walking. Just like someone else Esther's currently dating huh. She attracts a type.
So while the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team plots to keep Esther from her new best friends, said new best friends invite her to join them at the dance that evening. Well Daisy and Esther will dance Susan will stand as much as she pleases or else.
Unfortunately the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team abduct Esther again. She could just tell them to fuck off but is trapped by societal convetions and these girls stalking her like a rabid wildebeast.
Esther gestures for them to save her when she arrives at the party but Daisy's GESTURE ILLTERATE! Oh No. Thankfully the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team makes the key mistake of telling Daisy to back off. Oh that sweet naive member of the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team whose name shows up in the issue but i'm not looking up has no idea whose bread and butter she's fucking with and Susan straight up decks her.. and hurts her arm as despite her whole deal she shockingly dosen't punch stuck up snots in the face on a regular basis and threw it out.
It's here where the comic pivots.. up to this point it's on point for what the comic would be the rest of it's run: a charming tightly written slice of life with characters who perfectly bounce off each other with Gilmore Girls level dialogue, while having them slowly develop over time as they grow as people.
For this one John decided to say fuck it and try something outside his wheel house. A slice of life... that also usually involves people getting into high energy fistifcuffs. Yeah Giant Days #1 takes a hard turn into Scott Pilgrim, something John hadn't tried before or since. He does another weird turn in the finale but more as a fun bookend and more in line with the usual bobbinsverse kind of supernatural.
Here the head girls are all the strongest fighters in their school, as it's a requirement they each master a fighting style, and want to pummel susan. To save her Esther has Ed go fetch her boxing gear, she took up boxing back in high school and it comes up ocassionally here. Oh and to buy time... daisy meditates.. and reveals SHE CAN FLY WITH THE POWER OF YOGA
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While Allison isn't above nonsense, he quite enjoys it to the point he made a whole X-Men comic about Kitty and Wolverine going to a concert for a bruce springstein expy introduced in the trainsformers comics based purely on his vauge memories of 80s marvel, this style didn't last. It feels more like a Scott Pilgrim Homage than something taking that basic idea and doing it's own thing with it. It's something I want more of, and Allison probably could've pulled off.. but it's not where his heart was. His heart was with a coming of age story he could do fun one ofs about student life with. About building fun sitcom scenarios off the characters. He just couldn't squeeze a bunch of fights in there. Scott Pilgrim was built with this idea in mind, perfectly designed for the punch ups with each one esclating in how much it intersected with Scott's personal life, going from wacky side brawls in the first two volumes to directly solving his problems in volumes 3, 4 and 6. John Allison can do whatever he damn wants if he wants to, but it's clear by the next issue going soley for the slice of life stuff and a massive emotoinal punch he realized where the series strengths, and his were. I would love for someone to make a good Scott Pilgrim spirtiual succesor, this just wasn't it.
So Ed gets esthers thing, she cleans house, but the last member of the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team fights with NO STYLE.. which means all of them at once. So Batman Style. Also Ed accidently cups daisy whose cross about it, the first time we see the rage underneath the surface. Thankfully while Esther can't counter no style, Susan can.. with fire. She sets her hair on fire. So does that mean she and Esther are soulmates now? I mean I knew that and McGraw is probably okay with a third. Seems to be her pattern.
At any rate everybody parties and we get a quick wrap up at Caddrick Hall, the girl's residence: the Mean Girl Bitch Posse Squad Team has disbanded, like they were never there and peace reigns while Esther wonders what the fuck just happened. The Boy pops in for a cameo and they run into Ed whose morose to realize she's taken as Esther takes the Boy to go plow and Susan presumably takes daisy out for a nice tea to avoid the primal sounds that would etch onto her poor innocent soul.
Issue 1 is excellent and a solid start to the series. While parts of the characters are still settling it fits it being the first week of college: the cast isn't comfy because their in a new place dealing with both the recent dramas of the past in Susan and Ed's case and the shellshock of a new place in everyone's case. While I never went to a university Community College was still disorienting and your still lost figuring out what the hell your doing for some time, which is a large part of our ladies first year. Yet our heroes find each other anyways: A confident goth, a shy new age sweetheart and a horror from a stygian pit with a heart of gold. Their gonna need each other.. especially after the next one.
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I like this cover. It's not one i've really thought of but I like it's casualness.
So we begin with Susan and Daisy having started a side hustle of doing other students laundry since most don't know how. While relaxing between loads , Susan picks up on the obvious
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While I don't' want to have to think about Ed's awkward penis, especially with that expression I LOOOOOVE Susan's face in the last panel. Just the happiest troll right there.
Susan has just met Ed and she's already worried Esther's gonna break his heart. We also get a nice revealing little sentence when Daisy asks an understandable question
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It's clear Susan's already impressed and it's cute as hell. Her suggestion to deal with this... less so as her plan is "make it so ed walks in on Esther and Eustace doin it". Daisy rightfully points out while Esther will break his heart "You'll atmoize his insides!" and i'ts a bit TOO extreme of a solution
I love this scene as it's where it feels like these two really click into place: Now her guards down a little after the first few meetings, Susan is the Susan I'm more used to from the rest of the series: snarky, doubtful of people, but with a heart. And not just the one she keeps in a jar. While her solution for Ed's dilemma is fucked up, she gets the guy is pining after someone whose unavailable and not really that interested if she was, and that going down this road is only going to lead to pain. And without spoiling how... it does. Daisy likewise gets to show more of her iron will hiding beneath the innocense and optimism, as well as her insight into people: she may be naive.. but she gets this is the dumbest outcome possible in an already bad situation. The fact Susan backs down in the face of this says it all: Daisy may be less wordly than her.. but her carring means she gets people more. Susan is primed to think the worst.. and Daisy thinking the best means she cares if they get hurt, while Susan feels i'ts just ineveitble. Its something that'll come up again at the end of the comic.
For now we meet Ed's friend steve. Steve sucks. Steve is a cap wearing douche who assures ed he's in the friend zone, and gives vauge answers on his chances after meeting her for reasons that will only prove incredibly greasy and obvious. Fuckin Steve.
For now Daisy and Susan talk more on the ed situation that night, with Susan realizing letting nature take it's course happen.. but Daisy's still worried.
Susan soon has bigger issues as she has to deal with some noisy assholes the floor above who won't stop playign the fucking guitar at 3 in the morning. The next morning she's the only one sleep deprived as Esther is a heavy sleeper and Daisy made the smart decision to have earplugs and a mask... and a keen sense of smell should fire happen.
We see more of Fuckin Steve, as he has a guitar and a well set up room. He spends most of the lecture fucking around and plans to get some more fucking around, making an excuse to ditch ed so he can hang out with Esther after the lecture. And Ed's told him about the boyfriend thing but unlike ed who happlessly pines for Esther and figures he has no real chance but can't stop himself, Fuckin Steve plans to drive the wedge. Somehow. He'll figure it out. He's Fuckin Steve dammit!
Ed goes to visit Esther and finds Susan instead who invites him in and hears him out... and actually finds a way to try and solve the situation that won't embed Eustace's dong into his memory forever more by giving him some sage advice
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The next the Night Band has kept susan up as she hasn't found a day band, ahhhhhh, to counter it and missed breakfast. Daisy being daisy suggests going to dinner with Esther to cheer them up.. only for this to be a mistake. Esther is fresh off a phone fight with Eustace, unwilling to talk about it and lashing out.
Feeling pissy and boyfriendless, Esther wants to drink through her anger and suggests a night out... unfortuantely she takes the girls to the Slag Pit, a very real club it turns out. I found this out after John recently used it as the setting for a halloween party the cast of Solver attended, notable for both plot reasons, their 40's vintagewear loaned from their dowager benefactor, and just how damn crisp the page was.
Daisy naturally dosen't enjoy this and when Susan tries to get Esther to leave with them she's a real dick about it so Susan leaves her to it. Daisy is.. not so capable of brushing this off
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I love this little moment. It's not super load bearing to the plot but looking back on it for this review.. it's just so sweet. Susan is clearly baffled this made Daisy sad, more used to interpersonal drama as we'll get into... but still is willing to act like the big sister daisy needs and perk her up, likely imitating the one sister she actually likes a little. I thought at first this might've been midlly sarcastic but no.. Susan gets Daisy needs her and switches gears instantly.
So with Esther pissed and Fuckin Steve happening to be int he right place as the club closes... he offers his place... and she makes a terrible decision. She fucks Fuckin Steve. And somehow he's not the worst mistake she makes. More on him next time. But it is the one that'll leave the biggest mark on her, a wound that won't heal for most of her first year. While these issues can be skipped to get there, the impact of cheating on Eustace and the fallout is something that haunts Esther for some time and something that while she moves on from and gets some closure for, she never quite forgives herself for.
So the next day Ed finds out because Fuckin Steve is the kind of guy who brags about it. Susan is sure it's bullshit as despite only having a vauge description of Fuckin Steve from Daisy knows Fuckin Steve is a bastard man. But it's true. In a moment of weakness, anger and loneliness and being reminded of Eustace by Fuckin Steve despite Fuckin Steve being nothing like Eustace, Esther diddled Fuckin Steve. She also broke his guitar but given he wasn't good at it it's no loss. That and it belonged to Fuckin Steve who was busy plowing someone else's field with someone who while sober enough to remember everything, so he at least isn't that level of monster, still had sex with someone he knew he was taken while she was emotoinally vunerable. I mean Esther's culpable: she made a big mistake. But Fuckin Steve till took advantage of her emotoinal state. Ed pining after her is sad and he should've just.. been honest sooner and let the pain happen so he could move on. It'll be a while. I wish i'd been that honest when I was his age and I get it's hard. But Fuckin Steve manipulated Ed out of the way, slept with someone he knew a friend fancied, and had a boyfriend, and played his shitty guitar all night long disturbing susan.
Yup turns out Fuckin Steve's the head of the night band. Before susan can rip out his beating heart and feed it and his guitar to him as he dies, Esther storms into deal with steve herself. She has her friends leave as this is something she's gotta do herself, so they have a night egg.. and Daisy tells her about the alone with Fuckin Steve part and not the whole "going to probably tear him several new assholes and build a condo with his remains" part.
So unlucky for Ed he sees Fuckin Steve fuckin somebody. Esther had already left so sadly the whole Giant Days crew minus Esther has Fuckin Steve's Fuckin Dong etched into their memories forevermore.
Daisy solves the night band by going to their RA.. and when she finds he's been smoking the drug pipe gets some of his letterhead and makes an offical sounding note, ending the night band. It's the first show of Daisy's cleverness and I love it. I also love their weird stoned RA who thankfully got a whole boom box short story later on.
Later that night Susan and Daisy walk on in one of my favoirte scenes in the comic: Esther's talking with Eustace and.. it's not looking good. And as you can probably guess it's over. It wont' be fully spelled out till next issue but it's the end. And after going over their relationship again it's sad. They did have something, something that probably wasn't forever but was still vibrant. It's clear form her tantrum over him not showing up the loneliness was getting to her, I mean if she's seeing him in a fuckboy like fuckin steve of all people it's critical. She had friends.. but she didn't have HIM. She lashed out impulsively. It's the key moment that shows Esther's impulsiveness as her big weak spot: that tendency to act and then get hit with consequences for it. She just wanted to feel loved again.. and lost love because of it. It's a wound that won't quite heel and will take 5 years, someone else, and dying and coming back as a horse than as a man again for Eustace to finally get over. It just hurts. Seeing there meet cute right before made it hurt worse.
So Daisy wonders if they can help Ed and we get one of my faviorite lines of the comic
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It lays out who the two are: the eternal pessimest whose seen the worst of people.. and the optimst who can't help but see the best.. and Daisy's proven right as despite his pain and confusion ed picks up a guitar and plays.. and Susan is glad she and daisy are Friends. Daisy thinks she might be drunk but it's a genuinely sweet moment and the first time Susan's armor really cracks open and she realizes she may be wrong about people. It takes more than this.. but it shows why these two despite being nothing alike are so close: Susan looks out for Daisy and Daisy keeps Susan from plunging into her worst self. Encourages her to see world from a lighter view... to be a person who dosen't HAVE to lash out at everything, just as Susan helps daisy come to terms with a world more complicated than she might've been ready for. Just as Esther is the perfect partner to susan's snark and antics and the perfect cool big sis to daisy (Which Susan can do), Susan and Daisy compliment each other in a way the best friendships do and i'ts amazing to see.
Issue 2 is where Giant Days finds itself. It adds some depth with Esther cheating on Eustace, shattering their relationship and leaving an impact for issues to come, Susan and Daisy's conversatoin and everyone gets shaded in more. Except Ed but that takes a bit. While he shows flashes of depth here and there he really dosen't shine till he gets his own spotlight in issue 9. It's a masterful issue that was even better on this read and a sign of where the series was going
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She may look a touch different.. but she's back. It's the Erin issue! So before she shows up proper let's get that out of the way: This issue John considered adding Erin to the cast: while her fate was set in stone by Bad Machinery, there was still a gap between "coming back from hell" and "becoming a local reporter who takes credit from children". He even had her in mind for a later story we'll get to next time.. but decided likely due to using her again in the present day for Bobbins.Horse that it was best to have her just disappear into the either. IT's a shame as she plays off everyone well, but it's probably for the best as explaning why Esther dosen't remember her , especially if she stuck around for any of the reunion adventures, as well as having a died in wool fate to write to, it was probably best she stayed off campus after this. Still her one guest spot is a memorable one and it is nice all of Esther's major supporting cast gets to show up. More on that in part 3.
For now we begin our last issue of the pilot run with some running. Daisy's taken Susan jogging which goes about as well as you'd expect for someone who spends most of her days smoking in a dark room with only a skeleton for company. Susan decides she and Daisy need a hobby
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God the lines in this series are next level. Also yeah that second panel... woof. While Susan is cynical given her militant level of feminism in the full series this seems.. off to be so worried about "Oh no people might think i'm gay because I hang out with my friend of the same gender oh deary me nooooo!". It dosen't feel very Susan to give a shit if someone happens to think she's gay for stupid reasons. And yes I might think she's bi but her dialogue with Esther is hard to tell between flirting and just friendly banter in my ship poisoned brain.
So Susan decides to get out. Daisy tried tabletop gaming but thought it might be satanic because she's very daisy. And while a Buddhist now, still grew up in a religious environment so she fears Satan. Which fair, he's a dick, but Lucifer's a real pal once you get to know him.
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Still he's a bit of a mess right now so they instead join the Indie Music Society. This quickly turns into an evening long bout of "how many people can blather on about their very standard tastes before Susan stabs someone in the leg. Thankfully a drop of water appears in this desert of mediocrity
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Naturally the two instantly hit it off. And it's another reason I dont' think she stuck around. Susan and Erin are very similar. Their not the SAME character, Erin dosen't have as much Empathy as Susie P, but they fulfill similar roles. Had Erin's past not been locked under hell amnesia she still could've slid in easily, her complicated history with esther, her issues with her sister (Something Susan, youngest of 5, can relate to), the possibility of Eustace being available now and what she does with that, and a storyline with Daisy that was intended for her all give erin stuff, but she was always stuck with one arm tied behind her back. Always strung to the future. While this series left Esther out of the present day shenanigans going on in bad machinery, her not being involved gave her freedom, her storyline ambiguity as to where Gothy ends up and what happens with her new forever friends. With Erin... we know she ends up back in tackleford doing the news and that the amnesia hasn't warn off. If the series ever gets a film or tv series, something I badly want but doubt given Allison's disinterest with the only spinoff media so far being the YA Novel I haven't read yet, you could remove the hell baggage and various exits due to crisis crossover and have Erin as a plotline and fully unpack her and Esther's relationship, while hers with Susan and Daisy throws a wrench into the dream team. It's a good germ of a storyline but it's easy to see why John backed off. Erin's a character with potetial but one he never fully enjoyed using, and it was easier to let her off into the wilderness with an origin story for her car in Bad Machinery than try to crowbar her into a story that had the main cast it needed.
Susan and Daisy soon meet Thom, the up his own arse president of the club who got in because the previous club pres bought an album with their dues.. an album of drugs! And with no hope of the other canditates actually winning Susan decides to end this dude's career and runs.
Meanwhile oh yeah Esther's in this and gets an invite from a mysterious duo of metal heads to go to a metal club. While that goes on Daisy and Susan hang out at Erin's place. She's ditched the glasses at this point to avoid looking like her sister and offers everyone some booze, which Susan only turns down because there's a Daisy present. She's on antibiotics. While Susies over the moon, Daisy feels out of sorts, as drinking and pubs just aren't her. She's used to a quiet jigsaw with her granny she misses. Also if your curious about the whole drinking thing, it's entirley legal once your of age in the UK and should be here. I get trying to stop teen drinking but.. it's not doing that so why keep it. And I say that as someone who rarely if ever drinks.
Meanwhile Esther apologizes to eustace's photo: She feels bad.. but she can't mourn what she did forever and has to move on. She does. The wound dosen't fully heal but she does move on with her life. Esther enjoys the black metal club she visits, hard as hell and scary enough to bounce.. but also enough to stick in the mind, with her asking Ed along the next night. Ed reluctantly agrees having lied and said he's into metal. Ed strikes me as more a synth pop man.
So that night with Esther mia and Susan preparing for her presidential bid, Daisy decides to hang out with Erin whose inviting... they have to leave the kitchen as the rugby players living in the same small building come in and wreck up the place but it's still nice. They also run into Thom whose washing his car, the most indie car.. and the most pathetic. Erin is upset he asked for that and treats it like a woman. And really the fact most of her dialouge could be done by susan proves my point.
Back with Esther and Ed's Metal Misadventures, Esther takes Ed to the party and metals him up and he's clearly just.. deeply not happy. Not helping is that the black metal society throws him the fuck out while they court esther, telling her he got some. We're still 9 issues from that. She wakes up with a mysterious tatoo she's understandably freaked out about. I mean Allister Crowley was her school principal and tried to make her his child bride, it's understandable she'd be worried.
So at the meeting Susie P destroys Thom with the greatest cape in the history of man and possibly widlebeast. I'll try my best not to share full pages, as I want you to check out these comics on my own.. but this is one of the best scenes in the series and a defining moment for Susan so .. enjoy
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I want that cape so bad. Also very telling reaction from erin and a line that's stuck to my brain for better or worse.
So back a few hours ago Esther gets brushed off by Ed something that's entirely forgotten by next issue for a fresh start and given he's just mildly upset and this could easily be settled with a "they told me you got layed i'm sorry", i'm fine with that. Esther prepares for FINAL INTITATION and to probably murder someone. Probably.
Back at the debate Thom challenges Susan to a fucking.. challenge after she wins the presdiency and erin talks her into getting him to bet his car. It underlines a sad fact.. that aside from exposition and setup for a storyline daisy would have with someone else entirely, Susan could've done most of what Erin does in this issue.
So Susan challenges him to arm wrestling, which he refuses because she's a girl and she talks him into promising not to snap his arm brundlefly style. She does easily win as while Susan dosent' really exercised she is coming off a profession where being able to kick someone hard enough their testicles vanish into thin air if they come after you while your taking pictures is a valued skillset, while Thom is a smug little man in love with his car.
So Susan wins and gives Erin the car since she can't drive while Esther arrives at the graveyard. She meets a right bell end and regrets her life choices.. just in time for the rest of the gang to show up.
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So with that Esther realizes she's not alone and never was. And while it's not outright stated I get the sense Susan realized trying to make a bunch of friends who you can't stand being around is more trouble than having two good friends you can count on to rescue you from a graveyard, optics be dammed.
So our story ends with our temporary core four hanging out at Erin's place, with erin impressed by Esther scaring the fuck out of the hooligans in her building and esther worrying about her tattoo. Meanwhile the black metal society kill the silly little guy esther was with and make omnius threats there's always another day. They were never seen again and this is the closest giant days got to a scary go round type story.
Issue 3.. is decent. I mean it has Susan in a cape destroying a man's whole career. It's still the weakest out of the three.. we don't really focus on Esther's grief in her relationship and it's full of evolutionary dead ends that would be discarded in the rest of the series.
The one exception is how Esther treats ed. It's a small bit and while abandoning him wasn't her fault, she was actively lied to, her dragging him along to the club fully Crystalizes their dynamic. He pines after her and tends to do stuff in the hopes she'll notice, while she uses him as an emotional placebo as he's similar enough to Eustace. That last part is revealed much later in the series but is impossible for me to ignore: she knows he's into her.. but dosen't want to loose a good friend, which is understandable: she likely knew, might've considered turning him down gently due to eustace.. and then Fuckin Steve happened.
She likely saw or at least got a glimmer of how emotoinally destroyed he was by it, and got scared, thinking if she did that she'd loose a friend not grasping that he dropped Fuckin Steve because he's Fuckin Steve, and they could mend things eventually. I've been rejected and had wonderful friendships afterword. But it's a very human mistake from someone whose badly missing her boyfriend she's loved long before they were together and feels lost in her new environment and wants as many emotional liferafts as possible. It fits her character well: esther dosen't consider the consequences often as the series goes, and thus woudln't consider that this would leave a mark on Ed. I will grant Ed could just.. give up on her or tell her and clear the air, but I get it's hard and these are both still teenagers: their not thinking clearly. I thought at that age staring at a woman from a far was deeply romantic and not deeply creepy and also a valid technique to make someone love you. I get it. These two are awkard as shit and are going to fuck up. IT dosen't make their actions okay but the deep understanding you have of them makes it work.
So with that we've finished part one. I hope this is a success and i'm nervous about how it'll do... but I also have had so much fun doing this, just doing something just for me I wanted to do that it's worth it if no one reads this. But if you did thank you
Next Time: Uh-Oh! Love comes to town as the series properly launches! And with it we get the dawn of McGraw, a man with a mysterious past with susan and a glorious mustache who completes our main cast at long last. Susan deals with her will they or won't they, Daisy grapples with her sexuality and Esther has a forbidden and stupidly reckless romance with someone older than her. There's also dances,questionable poundland cold medicine, a searing look at lad culture, ASMR, sledding, monster trucks, Susan sexing with a boy, and one of our main characters gets dangled off a roof! All this and more in February! Remember, i'm pullin for ya we're all in this together.
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I very nearly pissed myself laughing at Beauty and the Beast tonight cause the un-Beast-ing transformation had the guy spin around on the floor and continue into the air like fucking Saruman chucking Gandalf up the Tower of Orthanc
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spotaus · 10 months ago
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Hi Hi folks! I was hit by a sudden bought of inspiration to draw Pretender (and N breaking the fourth-wall on this poor guy.)
And I'm @ing @oodlesndoodles and @mylackofgrammaristerrifying because you two are the honest target audience lol! (I twas inspired by your enthusiasm and wanted to do a silly lil comic! If u wanna be un-tagged or removed from the comic lemme know!)
I think Pretender responds very awkwardly to affection because he's used to scaring ppl off but like, monster-lovers pop off, because he's very open to giving/recieving affection if he gets the chance! (<- Moment where my headcanon of him being Genderfluid and Pan comes into play if I do say so myself 🙏) So like. He's honored, but got so flustered he couldn't hold up his disguise and went back to the hood lmao---
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midwinter-momento · 10 months ago
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Cupcake? (They hold up a cupcake)
Thanks, I’ll give you a cookie once I make them all
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whumpy-wyrms · 1 year ago
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i have a confession everyone. i am actually scared of caterpillars
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gregmarriage · 8 months ago
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this was meant to be a funny post, but then it got deep imao
not a relationship person, but i believe in their beliefs
#me when i lie#it always comes round to june and i’m always single and it’s quite honestly homophobic#imaooooo nah it’s not that deep i’m just coming on my period hehe x#literally keep saying the same thing about relationships#like i shouldn’t get into one just because i’m lonely#and rush things and completely blow up my life on impulse#but i don’t know any other way#need to learn to take it slow and *actually* take it slow#because the last time i “took it slow’’ it all went wrong#basically i want a relationship at some point but when all your relationships are the same#it really gets to you#and i keep thinking about (redacted) and how much i fucked it all up#but also like would we really have worked out?#if i’d actually believed everything she said would we be okay?#do i not have a life? or am i not allowing myself to have a life?#bc literally i think i’ve gotten so used to being on the floor that i’ve forgotten how to get up#and like if i really tried i could actually get what i want#and i know that sounds obvious but like bear with me#i’ve basically shoved myself into a deep dark hole and covered myself up with dirt and then forgotten i can dig myself out#i *can* be with someone seriously#like yeah it’s uncomfortable and scary and it means facing up to certain things that make my stomach hurt but i will never have a life if i#don’t do these things#i can’t allow myself to basically get pushed back into the closet#i can’t allow myself to be infantilised and treated like shit all the time#like even if i’m surviving purely via spite for a while it’s better than the alternative#instead of constantly talking about the same thing and how nothing ever changes i should actually change it#again obvious but i’m usually miles behind bc my brain… isn’t great is probably the kindest way i could put that#and that’s okay. like it’s hard but it’s okay#even if i’m living out my teenage years and doing the things i’d wished i’d done then at 25+ that’s fine#there’s a whole fucking world outside my bedroom door so maybe i should go actually see it?
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catboybrain · 1 year ago
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sniffles sadly. every day im so sad that fnaf didnt go with placing vanny into aftons role.... god forbid women do anything ! ! !
#just saw gtlive finish the first ending n like. urgh#maybe if i liked eclipse more i wouldnt mind how prevalent they r but woof man#like i get it its charlie and evil baby or whatever in the same body but come onnnnn#that and the candy cadet stories just bashing the same kid going into woods framework into the ground#i miss when it was like. this dude sewed 5 kittens together! this lady melted 7 keys! stuff like that yk that was different and scarier#i do rlly think the series is going toward this like polished marketable thing instead of the grimy sludge i liked .... </3 and the AI stuf#is sooooo boring like fuuuuck its so boring. i wouldnt mind if its charliebots bc at least theyre interesting !!!!#but mimic as the new villian? bro. dude. thats so boring come on... afton was interesting bc he was fucked up severly#and robots r just like. theyre just robots dude its not even scary its just a thing being programmed smh#without the afton behind it its kinda just ..... bleh#honestly i wish they would cap the story? like make vanny take aftons role; do some shit; end it in a tragic but cathartic way#and then if they want to make more games do either other families in universe (like fazbear frights) or prequels/ world building shit like#something set in circus babys pizza world or w/e .i mean you could argue its about cassie now but if her dad is bonnie bro we're still stuc#in the afton central place. and i dont like that hteyre moving on without wrapping up the 102938120 loose ends they already made URGH ! !#is it too much to ask for a fnaf game thats crusty round the edges and really metaphorical for theorists to dig into but logical enough it#can be solved and also creates a good plotline . yeah i guess hell will freeze over before that#d.txt#sorry im sooooo normal about fnaf <- is abnormal. fuhnaffs theories r GREAT thoguh i love that guy he makes me happy about the franchise :o
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