#sanders sides presentation

[pancakewithamace]

I LOVE THIS SO MUCH? pretend you can hear me clapping really loudly in the back. all the time. all the clap

Apparently people actually wanted the full presentation so - BEHOLD! why “Learning New Things About Ourselves” is the Most Important Sanders Sides Episode. (Obviously, click on the images to be able to read them better).

[unhinged-jaw]

I rewatched SVSredux and it has been plaguing my thoughts so. Rambles.

Watching Logan vs Deceit Pretending To Be Logan is So fascinating. This is no drag against Logan, but he allows himself to be talked over. Most of his 'Logan Lowdowns' are him making the soft pixel talking sounds. True to his earlier statement he acts detached to the debate, merely adding information (that is largely ignored). He only audibly gets involved when Patton asks for his input, clearly assuming Logan was going to help make his point clearer. Especially since Patton spends the whole episode struggling to convey his point! But that's another topic for another day.

Conversely, Janus As Logan (who I will be referring to as Dlogan for rn) is Very confrontational. First of all, the entire time Dlogan is on screen he is *speaking*. He sort of manhandles the conversation into his hands. Its very important to me though that how Dlogan does it is *different* than how Logan has taken control of the conversation in the past. Dlogan proceeds to *shred* into Patton's logic. Like, genuinely, he is tearing that poor man apart. He points out when Patton is lying and fumbling. He points out the inconsistencies. *He* is the reason Patton ends up freaking the hell out! Patton and his extreme opinion on the whole thing is put directly into the light and it shows every single inconsistency.

The difference between Logan and Dlogan is *genuinely* fascinating. Dlogan is very persistent that he will not be ignored. He shoves himself to the forefront and is very aggressive. But! If you weren't paying attention you really wouldn't notice! You would just think (in Remus words) that he "reached his listening to others limit". But he didn't! Janus has the wheel here!

ALSO there is a moment where Roman goes "I thought you didn't care about this stuff Logan" (Paraphrased) and Dlogan sort of brushes that off. But it is noticed by the other sides that Logan suddenly seems to care more about the debate. Fun call back!

Bonus also, Logan goes from "giving relevant information" to Dlogan pushing the topic of Self Preservation and whether or not Thomas *should* go to those extremes to be morally good.

Genuinely fascinating and fun all around.

[beepmeowiskarkat]

wip

[let-roman-bite-someone]

Janus's characterization was at its peak in SvS pt 1. In this essay, I will...

[sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes]

Virgil often forgets that arachnophobia is common and sometimes tries to give spiders to people as a way to show his love, he only remembers after the other person freaks out from it

[swhhdr-wthhr]

they're besties in every universe

pose references under cut

[princeysanders]

Early virgil my beloved <3

oh absolutely.

just look at him :>>>>>

(gif from someone here i just couldn't remember the userrr :p)

[myapathyhaspeaked]

Sanders Sides Outfit Poll #6 ✨

Poll #1, Poll #2, Poll #3, Poll #4, Poll #5, Poll #7, Poll #8, Poll #9

Roman (1)

Patton (1)

Logan (1)

Virgil (1)

Logan, Roman, Patton, and Virgil (2)

Logan (2)

Roman (2)

Patton (2)

Virgil (2)

Remus

Janus

[quackkaz]

Roman : *swirling chocolate milk in a wine glass* I’m just… over it, you know?

Remus : *chugging fire whiskey out of a baby bottle* Agreed.

[virge-the-artist]

The sides after a presentation!

Thomas: sits still and goes over what he did wrong and how he could've done better

Patton: happy with that he's accomplished and forgets about it

Logan: goes over his pros and cons and how to improve, there weren't many cons

Roman: sits with a smile like he's happy about it but panicking about everything he did wrong

Virgil: head face down on the desk, cant physically move, going over how it could've been better

Remus: forgets immediately

Janus: sits there without moving, did not prepare for it so he lied his way through

[nico-the-overlord]

List of genres(? idk how to word this) of SaSi fanart I have seen many versions of from different artists over time, and personally love (in reality I’ve probs seen 2 versions max for some of these points but still):

•2+ sides just chilling together on or near a couch, having a movie night or sleepover. Especially ones with ALL the sides

•2+ sides chilling together in the living room/kitchen area, baking something. Again, especially ones with ALL the sides

•Different pov shot where you can see the sides in their respective spots but are together in the same frame (instead of the cuts focusing on each side as in the normal video format…which is done for obvious reasons)

•Remus and Janus specifically interacting with each other. Idk if I can pinpoint specifics, whether it’s angst related or not I eat it up

•Roman and Remus shown as parallels to each other, especially when people turn it into Roman angst

•Logan surrounded by stars and space stuff

•Logan enthusiastically talking to a side about something he really likes (usually see him discussing astronomy?)

•Janus or Patton holding a snake

•Janus and puppetry symbolism (holding strings himself, sometimes with a multitude of hands, sometimes it’s just eluded to with a different side tied up in strings)

•Janus with/dealing playing cards

•Janus-pretending-to-be-Patton from CLBG scenes redraws

•Janus’s hand shushing/covering a character’s mouth, sometimes with his hands just surrounding or above (seen this involved most with Roman and Logan)

•Logan surrounded by, or being yanked by hands (see this with Janus’s hands as mentioned, but also the Orange Side. It is cool when people use all characters as well).

•Redraws scenes and art surrounding that final moment in WTIT where Logan stands alone, still gripping his planner

•Virgil surrounded by webs and spiders. Bonus points if he’s holding a spider

•Any art of S1 Virgil (when he used to have that black and grey plaid hoodie). Love it especially when people put him up to parallel our current Virgil

•Art of Virgil with his shimmering purple eyeshadow, especially ones where he’s stimming

•Any side wearing or holding something Patton gave them (see usually with pun-related clothing, mugs, or his hand-written cards)

•Color pallet/clothes swaps

•Any side with wings (especially when it’s for symbolic reasons)

•My Little Pony AU designs

•Role swap AU designs (light sides are dark sides and vice versa)

Feel free to add on your own, or make your own list, and shoutout to artist you guys are so awesome and talented

[boogeyalltheway]

guys. i think we should talk about the Presentable Liberty and Expotable Money character lore.

SPOILERS!!!

Theres two endings to Presentable Liberty: one where you leave your room to find out your prison cell was the elevator the whole time (Mr Money moneysaving tactics tm), and one where you don't. the leave ending is obviously sadder, but the stay ending give you so much more info? Like, Mr Money explains his whole plan to you (classic villain, very chefs kiss). of course, I think it can be said both games are about loneliness? yes?

PRESENTABLE LIBERTY:

Prisoner was trapped there because they're one of the few who's IMMUNE TO THE VIRUS, that's why Mr Money says "you're worth every penny". He fed them and a few others one of the only working versions of the antidote, which means there's more ppl like them (potential to explore aftermath of the game). I feel like ppl dont know about this? and he was all planning on harvesting their organs and all that for money, which he does, but yknow. we can pretend. one can explore whether or not all the prisoners were in the same building, whether you meet prisoners on the outside, or you could talk about the fact that a lot of the Happy Buddies were being fired because the prisoners were killing themselves and all that. Trapped lonely.

Salvadore's cool, the Prisoner and him were friends before, that seems like an obvious place to arrive. Loneliness of freedom? Room to explore backstory for him and the Prisoner. I got a headcannon: he picked his name for himself because he wanted to sound cooler. Seems par for the course for him, and that would be a cool little detail. I'd love to explore his relationship with the prisoner, and if any of you watched Sanders Sides, he gives BIG Roman energy.

Charlotte has "pick your poison" type loneliness. It somehow seems like both of them are very good at loneliness, however you wanna interpret that. She also gives "person who loves the colour purple".

Mr Smiley's my favourite, but that's only because there's so much about him. He was hired to be the prisoner's happy buddy, Mr Money was holding his two daughters hostage to keep him working, turns out they died ages ago, you wonder what his life and work day was like, and with all the lore, you wonder what kind of person he was. The fact that his name is Mr Smiley is just salt in the wound.

LETS TALK ABT EXPOTABLE MONEY.

prequel to Presentabe Liberty.

Youre Mr Money's organ supplier. so. immediately, added layer of depth. you, Mr Money, and Madame Sinclaire, whos a baddie, we love her. I like how it explores the opposite side of the fight, the moneys side. I believe its about one's obsession with earning money, and in fact about how when you're anxious about money, no amount seems enough and you use everything you can to try to get more. the "I need to keep earning more money or it'll all disappear if I look away" mentality. (If you haven't read the short story Johnny Mnemonic, it feels like that is what this game is based off of, or maybe theyre just coincidentally thematically similar in which case read it anyways,)

I feel Madame Sinclaire was one possible future for Mr Supplier where she also used to be hyperfixated on money but was able to turn away from that, while Mr Money is the opposite possible future. you earn money even when you don't click, and i'm not sure but can someone comfirm whether or not the clicking is slowing down your money production? THAT would be a great element of the game to further represent the money-obsession theme I theorize. its also your choice whether or not to send your cat on more trips, and in the end, one can argue its Mr Supplier's fault his cat got killed. One could also argue Madame Sinclaire somehow knew the cat was theirs and killed it to prove a point.

Also just a side note, it seems that the organ failure was an accident that Mr Money didn't expect, but he managed to make it work in his favour still. somehow. perhaps he wasnt concerned because of his secret weapon, the Prisoner.

I do think I will need to watch or play Menagerie: Archive if this obsession continues, I hear theyre in the same universe.

[oatmealdaydreams]

Panic & Cuddles

Another old work... oh boy. Let me know if ya wanna be added to or taken off the taglist!

Pairing: Moxiety

Trigger/Content Warning: panic attack (descriptive)

Description: Virgil finds Patton in the midst of emotional distress, and he doesn't hesitate before going to comfort him.

Extra: another old oneshot from Wattpad! Y'all wanted the Patton hurt/comfort first, so here it is. The other one should come out sometime soon. You decide if it's romo or platonic, idk anymore.

[Masterlist] | ao3 link

[read under the cut]

Patton was so confused, rocking himself as he curled into a ball on his bed.

He'd been in his room for a while. Hiding. He didn't remember what started it exactly, something about the near future and not wanting to deal with it. His heart pounded in his chest. His lungs felt tight, his chest felt like bricks were weighing it down. He couldn't breath, and tears were freely flowing down his face. He whimpered and cried quietly, trying to hide his struggles. His body shook.

Patton felt out of control. He felt like he was spiralling down, down, down. He felt dizzy. Was the room spinning? It was spinning, right?

He placed his forehead on his knees, bringing himself closer in on himself. He kept rocking, trying to regulate whatever was happening to him.

Was he dying?

He didn't want to die.

He had to protect Thomas!

What about Logan, the twins, Janus?

Virgil?

Please, he didn't want to die!

Oh god, he was going to die.

He couldn't breathe.

He couldn't breathe.

He couldn't breathe.

He squeezed his eyes shut as more tears poured down his face. He cried out a little louder as he gasped for breath. It did nothing. Nothing could help him. He was left alone to suffer, to rot.

To die.

A soft knock on his door made him flinch. He hugged himself tighter. He cried and whimpered again, only getting louder. Another knock as his door. He felt paralyzed. He couldn't move. He was drowning, gasping for air.

"Patton?" a familiar voice asked, laced with worry as another knock rang out.

Patton gasped sharply, his lungs on fire and his body's shaking worsening.

"Popstar?" it was Virgil, knocking at the door.

Patton was trying his best to hold in a sob. He didn't want Virgil to see him so sad and broken and terrified. He didn't want any of his kiddos to see him like that.

Against Patton's hopes, Virgil opened the door and came in. As it shut behind him, he froze at the sight of a panicking Morality. He quickly overcame it, however, in favour of helping the poor dad character. He calmly walked to Patton's side and sat down in front of him on the bed.

He noticed how bad Patton was shaking, how quickly and irregularly he was breathing. He heard how Patton cried and whimpered. How he whined.

"Pat, can you hear me?" Virgil asked gently.

Patton nodded weakly.

"Okay, it's gonna be okay. I'm going to touch your hands now. Is that alright?" Virgil kept his voice steady and clear.

Another nod from Patton and Virgil held Patton's hands in his own. He rubbed soft circles on his knuckles, trying to ground him. Patton let out a strangled sob, unable to keep it in anymore. Virgil squeezed his hands, and he squeezed lightly back.

"I'm here, Popstar. It's okay," Virgil reassured the shaking ball of Dad in front of him.

Patton only whimpered and whined in response. Virgil squeezed his hand again and got another light squeeze back.

"Breathe. Try to breathe," Virgil said gently.

Patton tried taking deep breaths, trying to comply, but his breaths came in shakily. He couldn't breathe.

Oh god--

"Hey, hey. Popstar, you got this. Just follow what I do, okay?" Virgil's voice kept Patton grounded in reality. "In for four, hold for seven, out for eight."

Virgil lightly squeezed Patton's hand, the pattern being 4, 7, 8. Patton kept trying his best to follow Virgil's guidence. He kept trying as Virgil encouraged him.

After a bit of breathing, Patton was starting to feel better. Once his breathing was close enough to normal, Virgil took one of his hands from Patton's and put it in his hair. He gently stroked his hair, feeling Patton relax more into his touch. Patton closed his eyes, leaning into Virgil's touch. It felt nice, calming. He was less shaky, only shaking slightly instead of violently.

"Good job, Pat. You're doing so good," Virgil whispered to him.

Patton hummed. He lifted his head to look at Virgil, his eyes red and puffy from the panicked crying. He rested his cheek on his knees, his face squishing. He sniffled, a look of shame etched on his face.

"I'm sorry…" he muttered, looking away from Virgil.

Virgil looked down at him, concern flooding his senses.

"Nothing to apologize for, Pat. It's okay," Virgil spoke softly, knowing how draining panic attacks could be.

"But… I don't even know what happened. I just, I freaked out for no reason," Patton argued, his voice a little shaky.

"Patton, it was a panic attack. There's always a reason, and any reason is a valid reason."

"Oh. I, uh. I didn't know that, that's what it was."

"Yeah."

"And I just… I don't want you guys to see me so sad and stuff. You're all my kiddos, I-- I don't like you seeing me hurt."

Virgil nodded and hummed. He still stroked Patton's hair, keeping him calm and aware that someone was there for him. That Virgil was there. That he cared and wouldn't just leave him when he was hurt.

"Patton. It's okay if you aren't okay. It's okay to reach out when you're feeling bad. Isn't that what you tell us? To reach out and get help if we need it?" Virgil said.

"Yeah, because you guys can't control when-- oh. I get it now," Patton realized what his emo friend meant.

"You should practice what you preach, Popstar."

Patton hummed. He looked back to Virgil, thinking for a moment. He sniffled, still a little embarrassed about his overflow of emotions.

"Can… can I have a hug?" Patton asked softly.

Virgil smiled at him, and nodded. He removed his hands from Patton's hair and his own hand before engulfing him in a tight embrace. Patton gripped Virgil's jacket, holding on tighter. He nuzzled his head in Virgil's shoulder and leaned into Virgil's touch. He closed his eyes, breathing in for a moment and sighed. He liked it when he could get moments like this with Virgil. Just them two, being able to take a minute and relax.

He moved his head, placing it on Virgil's chest. He listened to his heartbeat, feeling a wave of calm wash over him. He felt so tired from the panic attack, and he almost fell asleep then and there. Virgil slowly layed down, Patton now laying on top of him. He rubbed Morality's back, drawing circles on his shoulder blades.

Before Patton could drift off to sleep, Virgil kissed the top of his head.

"Do you wanna talk about why you were upset? Or do you want a distraction?" his voice was a little quiet and low, attempting to make the nice moment last longer.

"Mm. I guess… when we were all talking about--" Patton yawned, interrupting himself. "About the future and what we'd have to deal with soon, it kinda just… overwhelmed me? Thomas has been going through a lot lately, and the reality of it came crashing down. I just… it's a lot, not just for me. I guess I kinda… overreacted… a bit."

"Hey, you didn't overreact. You're right, Thomas has been going through a lot of shit recently--"

Patton muttered a half-hearted "language".

"--and it's been rough on everyone. You may be more affected, though, since you're literally Thomas' heart. You're all his emotions, good and bad. Your reaction is normal. You were overwhelmed. You didn't overreact," Virgil finished explaining.

Virgil looked down at Patton, who's lips were parted and who's chest slowly rose and fell. He smiled fondly as Patton slept soundly, wiping the tear streaks from his face. He kissed the top of Patton's head again, holding him close. Patton smiled sleepily, snuggling deeper into Virgil.

Virgil whispered a sweet, "Goodnight, Popstar."

He pulled out a phone and began scrolling through Tumblr. He felt proud of himself for being able to calm Patton down and ease him into sleep. He knew he wasn't always helpful, so when he was? It was one of the best feelings in the world.

Especially when it came to Patton, who'd always helped him. He was glad he got to show his love for his friend.

And whenever Patton needed it, he'd always be there.

Taglist: @lost-in-thought-20 @thegoldenduckie

[tentacle-therapissed]

SvS is great because Janus's argument is simultaneously so well crafted and also so deceptive and manipulative. Look at him go. He really fits the lawyer role to a tee

[harmonydiaries]

Patton and Remy planning their annual birthday sleepover party as we speak, maximising their joint slay

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Pre AA Virgil was such a dom