#saigealexis

[poppyandzena]

Poppy's psychological abuse of Noehflake after Noehflake officially broke things off at the December Trip.

[gayfesh]

Since we’re airing our grievances today, I’ll add mine to the pile. It was embarrassing when you argued what happened to Saige wasn’t sexual assault or abuse. We spent weeks dunking on Poppy stans when they argued what happened to Dom wasn’t technically sexual harassment. You made us all look like hypocrites. I don’t care if it’s technically in the definition or not, flashing your breasts/penis isn’t okay.

I handled that whole thing poorly. I was intending to focus on the escalation of language and changing terminology to point out Saige was pulling from the same playbook as Poppy: people weren't reacting strongly enough to her expose for her liking, so she escalated. Just as Poppy insisted at first that what Noeh did wasn't rape but now just openly calls her a rapist, Saige was first calling it sexual harassment and abuse, even saying that she HADN'T called it sexual assault, and then changing her language to elicit a stronger reaction.

I let Saige bait me into arguing over definitions, I got lost in the weeds, and that was clearly a mistake on my end. I should have just kept focusing on how Saige has been willing to misrepresent and outright lie about everything else in order to curry favor with Poppy and thus for that reason her accusations of sexual assault should be treated exactly the same way we should treat all her her other allegations: point out that she is a demonstrable liar.

[ruadhan1334]

JFC...

OK, I have a hypothesis that my convos with Milena suggests I'm not the only one who has noticed this:

Since Saige's infamous Attempt, in May of 2023, or at least since getting back on-line after her apparent time in hospital, she's been gradually morphing into Poppy's Mini-Me. A Mini-Pee, if you will (because about a third of the time, my phone's auto-correct decides that my fat finger is writing "Poopy" —and not only do I often just not care enough to fix that, in spite of the fact that I'm slightly older than Poopy, sometimes I find toilet humour funny, and we have to make them match!)

Whether this change in Saige's demeanor is something that Poppy encouraged, or it's just Saige's thinly-veiled attempt to get Poopy's attention and sufficient approval in a desperate hope to be elevated to "P's 2nd FP," is anyone's guess, but over the last month and change, I've been shifting my bets to the latter possibility —though elements of Poppy encouraging this are also quite apparent to anyone giving those three the slightest attention.

When I first heard about that incident, not too long after it was alleged to have happened, it sounded like it was obvious sexual harassment from the creepiest variety of sex-pest. It still sounds like that, harassment —regardless of how the Turbulent Triad want to spin it, lately. The current spin also certainly does not disprove the noted shift from Saige Alexis, a soft-spoken and sweet young lady with her own personality and her own struggles, into Mini-Pee, a smudged mimeograph copy of Poppy with a soft Hoosier accent.

It's so fucking weird, and not at all healthy for any of the involved parties.

I was one of the anons banging on the anti-Aztec drum, but now that Poppy is acting like a fool again. I want to clarify myself.

IF that situation occcured exactly how Saige described, then it would about my be sexual harassment. Emphasis on harassment. Not sexual assult and NOT RAPE. At worst, it would make Aztec a sex pest, NOT A RAPIST.

It’s honestly disgusting how Poppy has implied that Saige is a VICTIM OF RAPE, due to this interaction. It’s disgusting how Saige has escalated her language, because her initial account wasn’t getting her the attention she wanted.

Finally, even if everything Saige said about Aztec is true, it does not verify Poppy’s accusation against Noeh. P&Z and Saige have this weird as fuck idea that their accusations are a “package deal”, even though they involve differnt people at differnt locations at completly differnt dates.

^

[gayfesh]

I must also stress that Saige took this long to speak about the events leading up to May not just publicly, but also privately, because Z&P spent that long pressuring her into signing off on their narrative. A few weeks before she spoke out publicly, I called out Poppy in private for referring to the former friend group as "the suicide squad" because she had never corroborated any of the allegations she had made about them to me, and told her that she was never to use that phrase in my presence again.

Either that night or the next day, I joined VC on Z&P's server to find them pressuring Saige into telling me that their narrative was the correct one, despite having zero receipts to back up any of it, and just demanding I take her (read: their) word at it. And then she posted the public thread a few weeks later.

Reminder: the allegations against Aztec weren't in that public thread from November, they were from the later one in January. She never mentioned anything of the sort to me in person, even as she was pressured into telling me Z&P's narrative.

Since we’re airing our grievances today, I’ll add mine to the pile. It was embarrassing when you argued what happened to Saige wasn’t sexual assault or abuse. We spent weeks dunking on Poppy stans when they argued what happened to Dom wasn’t technically sexual harassment. You made us all look like hypocrites. I don’t care if it’s technically in the definition or not, flashing your breasts/penis isn’t okay.

I handled that whole thing poorly. I was intending to focus on the escalation of language and changing terminology to point out Saige was pulling from the same playbook as Poppy: people weren't reacting strongly enough to her expose for her liking, so she escalated. Just as Poppy insisted at first that what Noeh did wasn't rape but now just openly calls her a rapist, Saige was first calling it sexual harassment and abuse, even saying that she HADN'T called it sexual assault, and then changing her language to elicit a stronger reaction.

I let Saige bait me into arguing over definitions, I got lost in the weeds, and that was clearly a mistake on my end. I should have just kept focusing on how Saige has been willing to misrepresent and outright lie about everything else in order to curry favor with Poppy and thus for that reason her accusations of sexual assault should be treated exactly the same way we should treat all her her other allegations: point out that she is a demonstrable liar.