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odd (slight) Nonrhoticity in bettina levy's amerikan english
@bettinalevyisdetermined
i wish to point out to you (if u had not already known urself) that u hav an odd form of lack of r pronunciation on words like forward (often being pronounced like "foe ward") with the first r noise disappearing all together yet strangly keeping inline with standard pronunsiation with the sekond r noise. its rather odd and kould u think of any possable reson u do this / hav u notissed anyone else around u also do this
get bak to me when possable and
God bless ♥
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Since the Brits love to lovingly lecture us Americans about football and British things in Ted Lasso (which I appreciate!), I want to do my part to educate on one American misconception that drives me crazy:
Kansas isn’t the south. It’s the Midwest. Ted’s accent isn’t a southern accent. Jason Sudeikis is putting on kind of a hokey, country accent. But it’s not southern.
Credentials: I’m from the south and have a southern accent.
#ted lasso#just one of my pet peeves#people down here (the south) don’t talk like ted lasso#there are also a variety of southern accents!#I come from people from southern Appalachia so mine’s a rhotic southern accent#but that’s too much for this post#suffice it to say that Ted lasso isn’t any kind of southern accent
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that was not as free or as improvisational as we like, because in our free improvisation - I! the free improvisation Band leada! - takes over. so please, ladies and gentlemen, upon this cue - SCREAM AS IF YOU'RE IN HELL!
#love when flansburgh dips into non-rhoticity like that#at least I'm 80% sure it's band leader but with the audio quality I could totally be wrong there!#flans posting night I guess#the conan interview where he's like ''so... when you were a kid did you say ''pissa''?''#tmbg#videos
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Rhotics aren't real
I mean, in the headline up there, R appears 3 times but is made by at least 2 distinct vocal gestures and my native-US-English-speaking ears interpret it as the same sound. And if you're from Boston, the second word doesn't even have an R in it (but there's a ghost of it on the A).
In German, there are at least 3 different ways to pronounce an R, depending on where it is in the word and/or your dialect. Spanish has a trilled R, and Japanese has a coronal tap that's romanized as either R or L. Scots uses this same coronal tap in words like "bairn." (The coronal tap is the sound (US) English speakers use for D and T in the phrase "Adam edited it," and I daresay we wouldn't interpret that as "Aram erired it.")
So what the fuck is an R?
Linguists don't fucking know. There's this software called Praat written and maintained by a linguistics professor in the Netherlands that lets you take recordings of speech and turn them into waveforms and spectrograms, which you can then analyze. You can see where the vowels are and the sibilants, nasals, and stops, but the nebulous group of sounds included in the letter R aren't easy to visualize. You can see ghosts of their presence in the deformation of vowel formant frequencies, but there's nothing we can point to and say "THIS! THIS is an R!"
So your brain hears this sound that isn't this and isn't that and isn't this other thing or that other thing, and decides it's an R because it doesn't know what else to do with it.
R has that "behold! a man!" energy and I think that's beautiful.
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#silly#the locked tomb#tamsyn muir#tasmania#gideon the ninth#like without a rhotic r (and she is a kiwi) it works very well#shut up ulrike#tlt
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anyone else like. take on a different way of pronouncing vowels and consonants when speaking different languages or is that just what accents are
#like i say r differently in spanish#i still cant roll my Rs but it's like. closer to an l than a rhotic R#existenceunrelateds
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looking thru my writing wips/to-be-published stuff is SO funny bc it’s litchrally just
[saint’s psychosexual obsession w s4 martin]
[saint’s psychosexual obsession w s4 martin]
[saint’s psychosexual obsession w s4 martin but in the victorian era]
[saint’s psychosexual obsession w s4 martin]
[saint’s psychosexual obsession w s4 martin]
[saint’s psychosexual obsession w s4 martin]
#SORRY. IT’s just!!!!!#more like martyr-n. (i have a non rhotic accent pls read this in a non rhotic accent for the sake of my shit joke)
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Another member of the rhotic quartet, how nice
#osc#osc art#yorick's show and tell#algebralien#algebraliens#algebralien oc#xfohv#xfohv oc#I’m making a rhotic barbershop quartet now because why not. I can.
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9-1-1 is not a show i have ever seen in my life but i HAVE seen vast quantities of gifsets of it and let me tell you i have never been as surprised as just now when i learnt that the actor who plays the newly-bisexualised blorbo is, in fact, english.
#i had just awoken from a pseudo-nap#and allowed tumblr to play me a video of him talking#and i was lying there very muzzily thinking#'where... are that man's rhotics...... WHAT are those diphthongs..... WHY all the glottal stops...'
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I would like to remind people that I am:
— PRO RECOVERY.
— PRO GOOD FAITH.
— PRO CONSENT (NO MEANS NO).
— PRO PALESTINE
— BELIEVE NUMBER NAMES SHOULD NOT BE TREATED LIKE CLOSED CULTURES AND THUS ARE NOT OEA SPECIFIC (AND AGAINST NUMBER STRAINS IF YOU HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED OEA, THAT IS WEIRD).
— ANTI ENDOGENIC / NON-TRAUMAGENIC.
— ANTI PROSHIP
— ANTI DDLG
— ANTI RADICAL QUEER.
— ANTI “IRL”.
— ANTI “DOUBLES”.
— ANTI GENOCIDE.
— ANTI TRANS-ID’S.
— ANTI ALTER RACE.
— ANTI CREATOR DRAMA.
— ANTI TEXT-STUTTER (BECAUSE IT MOCKS SPEECH IMPEDIMENTS).
— ANTI TEXT-RHOTICITY (BECAUSE IT MOCKS SPEECH IMPEDIMENTS).
— AGAINST PREDATOR PRIVACY (AS PRIVACY GIVES THEM MORE VICTIMS).
##👾 ➔ tetris co. rambles ⸺#rambles#my stances#pro recovery#pro good faith#number names are not oea specific#anti endogenic#anti endo#anti nontraumagenic#anti radical queer#anti radqueer#anti irl#anti doubles#anti genocide#anti transid#anti alter race#anti creator drama#anti text stutter#anti stutter tq#anti text rhoticity#anti rhoticity tq#against predator privacy#get the fuck off the internet#fuck israel#endos fuck off#fuck trump
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Americans will be like lol ur accent but we can’t even say zoroark
#zororarc. zorrrork. zooaark#the rhotic r is really working against it here zorrroak#kipspeak#I can’t say this word. ぞろあく
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This is probably Bush and also Pullings's native dialect (though I have many MANY doubts about what exactly the methodology being used here was)
#they have texts and they have informants and they have the informants read the text but i'm not really sure how that's supposed to work#anyways this is definitely the dialect pullings grew up speaking since afaik he's the son of hampshire farmers#apparently chichester is in area 5 as well so also falls under this categorization#this is very unrigorous research btw. please take everything i am saying with a grain of salt i'm just fiddling around with an old book#i'll look for a good basic primer on history/dialectology of english at the library at some point perhaps#i do not have the historical context/cross-references to verify any of this guy's claims#i just really like dialect and english-language ones are so much fun what with all the crazy vowel combos#and apparently lots of rhoticity??? he's claiming this accent was also rhotic which is a little insane#would love to read a history of rhoticity in english tbh#perce rambles#adventures in historical sociolinguistics#percy yells at cecil scott#The Creative Endeavor and other aubreyad nonsense#if you go to the source there's a lot of texts in this section i just picked one
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One small detail I quite liked about Kevin Can Fuck Himself is the acknowledgement of the fact that American accents (or some specific ones anyway) pronounce names like "Patty" and "Paddy" so they sound identical and that gets weirdly confusing at times.
I once spent ages not knowing what the gender of a particular podcast character was supposed to be in an audio sketch because I couldn't tell if their name was "Maddy" or "Matty"
#for added context this was one of the Crowley Time episodes where it's just the one bloke doing all the voices#(and who ironically isn't even American but was just putting on an accent)#anyway this isn't even me having a go#because the same sort of thing happens with British and generally non-rhotic accents#'Gordy' sounds like 'gaudy' and so on#just amuses me really#kevin can fuck himself
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unfunny doodle #4852
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#most interested in the british part of this#since american accents are overwhelmingly rhotic#but also the american-british-other split in the wizard community lol#poll#sewi's stuff#linguistics
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Yes I'm from New England, I know how to pronounce place names such as Leicester and Quonochontaug. Pawtucket, Worcester, just rolls off the tongue!
#if you say leominster non-rhotically the massachusetts and uk pronunciations are effectively the same#shaun talks#just thinking about how a mixture of british isles and algonquian names sound like home#new england
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