#red dead spoilers

[sapphic-outlaw]

made a dumbass meme + an alternative

[albino-wildebeest]

There’s no way this hasn’t been done before

[iicaru2]

ruined my own day just now by remembering that, upon finding her husband’s corpse riddled with bullets in front of their home, abigail immediately went to feel for a heartbeat despite it being genuinely impossible for him to have survived that, and her sixteen-year-old son was the one who had to pull her away from john’s body while she sobbed and desperately tried to find any sign of life

[marstonsboy]

you guys remember how dutch says “when i’m gone, they’ll just find another monster. they have to, because they have to justify their wages” to john before he dies? now remember that and try not to think about jack marston killing a former government agent and dooming himself to the life of an outlaw at nineteen years old. try not to think about how he made himself the new monster the bureau wanted dead.

[acewhitlock]

rip Arthur Morgan you wouldve loved cracker barrel

[giveamadeuschohisownmovie]

The Red Dead Redemption games are lowkey scared straight simulators. You think being a criminal is fun? Well, watch all your friends and family die, beat up and kill people who don’t deserve it, and grapple with the fact that you’re going to hell unless you make a change. If that’s not enough, watch yourself die because you chose to be a criminal.

There’s also the fact that the games clearly emphasize that while being an outlaw sucks, being a hardworking regular civilian is awesome. You want your beautiful wife and son back? Stop being a gangster and become a rancher. Or else end up like Arthur, who died alone and brutally.

It’s like Rockstar wanted to counteract the legacy they created with GTA. One series makes being a criminal seem fun, the other makes it the worst possible life anyone could ever live.

[aintan0driscollnomore]

since jack's real name is john [there's proof in rdr1], do you think in 1914 if anyone ever found out and called him by his real name instead of the name he had gone by his whole life he would either just start breaking down sobbing thinking about what happened to his dad just 3 years earlier or he would instead show all the emotions he's had pent up for all those years [even after killing agent ross] through aggression and violence and end up shutting himself out for days to even a month or two

[puffyhairedhipster]

Let’s appreciate this masterpiece please

[magewardensurana]

Gee Dutch, how come the narrative let's you have two fridged partners whoes deaths steadily drove you down a dark path from which you could never return?

[sapphic-outlaw]

Asshole. lmao

[freakofnurtures]

i am going to explode.

[iicaru2]

i still really hate the opinion that rdr2 “ruined” john’s character. like, no, it didn’t. john is not perfect. john has never been perfect. multiple times in rdr1 he admits to not having been the best father. there have also been implications in rdr1 for almost fifteen years now that john has walked out on his family before! the events of rdr2 are not unprecedented! 1899 john didn’t come out of nowhere!

jack says to john that he feels he has to prove himself, or john will leave again. when he’s 19 he makes it pretty clear in dialogue to edgar ross that he understands john was forced against his will to do the bureau’s dirty work in order to keep his family safe. he knows john did not willingly leave in 1911, and that isn’t what he’s talking about. abigail says to john that jack is “a kid growing up without a father.”

john himself even tells jack at one point that he hasn’t always been the best father. he admits he’s made mistakes. he loves his wife and son more than anything in the entire world, but he knows that he’s flawed. he’s not a perfect person whatsoever and it irks me when people complain about him being unrecognizable in rdr2— as if that isn’t the point? we’re seeing him 12 years younger. none of us are the same people we were 12 years ago. he has issues on top of issues and he gets better. he doesn’t get to the point he’s at where we meet him in rdr1, but he gets close enough that his character development makes sense.

tldr he’s fantastically written, i really like his character development, and i’ll never get over the marston family ever

[marstonsboy]

on the topic of that time sixteen-year-old jack marston got mauled by a grizzly bear: he definitely retained some scars from that, right? when john finds him, he’s covered in a decent amount of blood, and he has visible scratches on his face.

his character model doesn’t reflect that he almost died to a full grown bear after the event. maybe rockstar didn’t know how to do this in 2010, i don’t know, but i always assumed he got some nasty scars from it. because, i reiterate, he was a scrawny sixteen-year-old that almost died to a Massive Grizzly Bear.

plus, with the fact that he almost definitely would have died right there if not for the plot armor of being haunted by the narrative (doomed to become the playable character in the de facto epilogue), i have to imagine there’s no way he walked out of that alive without any very obvious signs of injury.

this would also lend to the fact that he can get very easily mistaken for john multiple times by strangers. there’s this one stranger who tells him “you look younger,” as if the only obvious discrepancy here is jack being about twenty years younger than john, not the absence of those vicious scars he got from the wolves.

something something cinematic parallels. i don’t know. this is just something that bugs me a lot in the back of my mind.

[anonymouscheeses]

Oh, Arthur...

[1000emotions]

someone edit john to this song omg. “old habits die screaming” pretty much sums up the rdr2 epilogue