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Amphitrite reading the news paper: man 47, beats up a man with his own walking stick and kills 108 men with awakened super sayan, sex after wards is intense says dog.
Amphitrite: See this? This is the journalism that matters!
Poseidon standing there with stab wounds: 🧍♀️
Amphitrite: oh, well that’s new- good for you sweetie, want to see the pictures?
#Poseidon#Greek mythology#goddess amphitrite#Amphitrite#epic the musical#epic#epic the ocean saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic Amphitirte#ror Amphitrite#oc#my oc#oc x oc#oc x canon#goddess of the sea#ror poseidon#snv Poseidon#Odyessus#epic odysseus#epic poseidon#Hades the game#hades Poseidon#hades ii#poseidon x amphitrite#poseidon x reader#record of ragnarok oc#epic oc#memes#scenarios#sea goddess amphitrite
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epic vinyl mock-ups I made (bc I want so desperately for a vinyl release once the last two saga's are released) updated since the vengeance saga art just dropped
#epic the musical#epic the musical vinyl#vinyl mock-up#vinyl records#epic the troy saga#epic the cyclops saga#epic the ocean saga#epic the circe saga#epic the underworld saga#epic the thunder saga#epic the wisdom saga#epic the concept album#jorge rivera herrans#epic the ithaca saga#odysseus epic#epic the vengeance saga#the vengeance saga
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Why did Apollo favor the trojans in the Illiad?
So, dear Anon, I've been thinking about how to answer this question since I got it a couple days ago and I think I kind of want to make something clear before I get into it.
The Iliad by itself as a poem only covers some of the events that occur in the final year of a long protracted conflict that had been brewing for at least two decades and was an active war for ten. Within the space of the Iliad itself, the motivations and affairs of the major players are often referenced but there are many, many parts of the story that are not there because they belong to a different story cycle that has been since lost or was never recorded with words. In the space of the Iliad Apollo's motivations are questioned a lot - his pride is questioned by Poseidon who thinks Apollo should be just as angry at the Trojans as he considering Apollo was treated equally as poorly by Laomedon while they worked together. His honour is questioned by Hera who chastises him for taking the Trojans' side when he'd proclaimed that Achilles would live a long life and prosper at Thetis and Peleus' wedding. His own sister calls him a coward for refusing to fight when Zeus gives permission for the gods to go wild on the battlefield. For all that there's this image of Apollo in the Iliad as some staunch and unwavering protector of the Trojans, believe it or not, I largely think of Apollo as neutral in the war.
Which, I suppose, comes back to the question - why did Apollo favour the Trojans? The truthful answer is that I don't know. The Iliad and all its connected stories isn't something I've done enough research on to have an answer or a reference to an answer off the top of my head. The reasoning I'm aware of is that Apollo was a Patron God of Troy and really a god doesn't need any reason besides that to protect his people but it's not like Apollo abandoned the Greeks either. Calchas is the biggest example of that I can point to - descended directly from a priest of Apollo and one who attributed his mantic power to the god, Calchas was pivotal in ensuring the Greeks even got to Troy in the first place.
From a personal perspective however, I think Apollo was more dedicated to the house of Priam than he was the city of Troy itself. Apollo's affection for that house and all its members ran deep - from his admiration of Hecuba and Hector to his love and attempted courtship of Cassandra to his blessings given to Helenus, Deiphobos, Cassandra, Troilus and even his partnership with Paris - Apollo loved the house of Priam. When you think about the times Apollo lashes out against the Greeks, it's generally because they've done some nonsense to earn his ire. The plague was caused by Agamemnon disrespecting his priest, his aid in the slaughter of Patroclus was because he didn't respect him, his minor grudge against Diomedes too was because he tried to test Apollo's mettle and well, the less said about Achilles the better. Apart from his obvious favouring of Hector in the skirmishes, Apollo doesn't really oppose the Greeks. He has a ton of reasons to by the time the Iliad rolls around, including avenging the death of two of his sons, but he remains mostly satisfied with conducting his father's business and overseeing the war from a somewhat professional perspective. To me, it's always been less about Apollo caring about the fate of Troy as a city itself and more about him just really wanting to protect the people in the city that he's come to love and respect.
Of course, I encourage you to take my words with a big tablespoon of salt - like I said, I don't really know enough about the facts in particular to give a solid, confident answer but I can give you my interpretation of it. Maybe consult someone like @littlesparklight for a more comprehensive and grounded response 🤔
#ginger answers asks#Thank you so much for the question even if my answer was somewhat lacking lmao#For the record btw Apollo doesn't stay mad at Diomedes forever either - he pretty much drops it after the Funeral Games#and helps him get rid of the cursed ass Palladium when he goes to consult an oracle about it lmao#Apollo just generally doesn't fuck with people who have too much hubris for their own good#Like he r e a l l y hates that#But Apollo more or less went wherever he was called and did whatever needed to be done#to keep the war flowing and progressing the way it should#I always find his lack of retaliation against Achilles to be a point of extreme interest#Yes he eventually aids in Achilles death together with Paris but Apollo refrained from getting vengeance against him for years#Depictions of Apollo being held back when Achilles assaults and kills Troilus always ALWAYS intrigue me#And it's always what I think about when I hear people talk about Apollo hating the Greeks or favouring the Trojans#Apollo didn't have any beef with his family at that time and he certainly didn't care enough about any particular human to go against his#family - he says so himself when Poseidon is goading him to fight and yet I cannot help but think about how he kills Neoptolemus#Interesting man indeed#apollo#the iliad
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If I had a nickel for everytime i saw Poseidon get his ass beat by a mortal in fiction. I’d have 2 nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice
#epic the musical#record of ragnarok#lol#the vengeance saga#poseidon#it’s really the age of f*** the ocean
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Can you imagine having a dad who sacrificed his crew of 600 men, broke a goddesses heart and massacred a different god to bully said god to help him get home, just so he could get back to you and your mom?
Odysseus is literally the opposite of the dad who went out to get milk
#epic the musical#the vengeance saga#odysseus#idk if someone did this already#but I had this thought and had to put it out there#in other news#the epic vengeance saga brainrot is still going strong and likely only arcane s2 coming out in a few days will put a (temporary) stop to it#wouldn't have it have it any other way though#odysseus is superdad#maybe not in attendence record#but in determination for sure
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A couple of months ago I let my little sister listen to Epic after showing her some fanarts on Tumblr, she became addicted to the musical even though she didn’t understand a word (English is not our first language (we’re Italian) and she’s pretty young too).
She says she watched animatics to understand better what was going on and she asked me to translate some of the more difficult parts.
Today I let her listen to the Vengeance saga (after I understood the lyrics in order to be able to translate to her everything) and we had lots of fun.
Just a while ago she gave me this drawing saying to post it on Tumblr to give fanarts back to the fans and so that my Tumblr becomes “Cool”.
I’m kinda crying from happiness about this, I’m so happy I got her excited about something I love too and it (positively) melts my heart to see her putting so much work into making something for the media we both love
So thank you Jorge and thanks to all the crew for making Epic, you guys really made us two bond and spend lots of good time together when we used to not talk much or even see each other.
#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#fanart#I’m feeling emotional#I’m happy crying#for the record I hugged my little sister#not my art#technically#odysseus#hermes#she’s blasting the songs at full volume in her room#her favourite god is Hermes#followed by Zeus#epic zeus#epic poseidon#epic polites#epic winions#epic
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when Charybdis comes out, the fandom goes bonkers
#its gonna be the favourite song of half the fandom#it's gonna break records trust me#odysseus#charybdis#the vengeance saga#epic the musical
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I got demon types from the DA wiki, so not sure if this is all-encompassing- use the something else button and lmk what if it isn’t!
#dragon age#lucanis dellamorte#I don’t think vengeance demons are their own seperate thing right? that’s just also justice#dav#dav spoilers#datv#dragon age the veilguard#dragon age 4#polls#I DO MY BEST W LORE BUT NO PROMISES OK DONT COME AT ME#(I do know that spirits and demons are basically the same not the point)#(not 100% but you know what I mean)#for the record I think envy
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Odysseus lander making it to the moon now makes sense with the whole windbag jetpack situation
#for the record this is about spacecraft odysseus#epic the musical#epic the vengeance saga#text post#odysseus spacecraft
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frecklewish
#an oldie from twitter but a good one#warrior cats#frecklewish#mapleshade’s vengeance#warriors#for the record I do think frecklewish is responsible for the kit’s deaths#she could have called for help or not encouraged for them to be exiled in the first place#mapleshade is based for killing kitty cat racists methinks
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Hii! Could we get the dialogue after you jump out of the plane? Cuz there's quite a bit of it before and after the "Why are you so afraid of heights anyway" convo you already posted here. Thank you so much :D
Sure! Here's everything I could find for the "Skydive" scene :D
#i sure hope they gave Fares Fares a nice hot drink after that recording session#poor guy had to yell so much#mission: free fall#chapter 4: vengeance#a way out#uploaded the heights convo again so it's all in the same post#vincent moretti#leo caruso
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Poseidon: what’s this play about again?
Amphitrite: it’s about a homeless man trying to get back home, loses everything and everyone really slowly, gets nine different PTSDS,caused by the gods, gets home after 10 years then leaves another 10 years. Oh and comes back after that only for him to get stabbed by his own son.
Poseidon: ah, so a comedy.
Amphitrite: where’s this guy been?😏
#poseidon#Amphitrite#Poseidon x Amphitrite#the Odyessy#not them furiously making out right after finding a man’s suffering amusing#record of ragnarok#shuumatsu no valkyrie#hades game#epic the musical#Greek mythology#queen Amphitrite#goddess#goddess of the sea#god of the sea#vengeance saga#epic#epic odysseus#epic the ocean saga#ror#snv#hades#Greek mythology oc#hades game Odyessus#hades game Poseidon#epic oc#snv Poseidon#ror poseidon#snv Amphitrite#ror Amphitrite#memes
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Mmmm thinking abt Sans Undertale again and how (while fun and I’m not diminishing that) fanon still doesn’t get him as a character. I’ve only ever thought one Sans centric series portrayed him correctly and the first fic in the series (1/3) is about GASTER (whose characterization is fine, it’s compelling if conflicting with my headcanons but any GASTER interpretation immediately gets leeway with me bc of how little canon their is).
#Undertale#sans undertale#he’s so complex but bc of how over saturated he is I think asking for more sans content (even if different) would be silly#for the record I actually liek fanon sans too- it’s interesting to think of a theoretical character#who remembers all teh resets and is hunting down the player in rage and vengeance over his fallen brethren#or a guy going insane over millions of resets#but that’s a whole new guy#an interesting guy#but a different guy
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Honestly,,, will not lie I do not get the hype behind Poseidon’s screams . Like conceptually I am obsessed but I just.. the screams themselves aren’t particularly appealing? They just sound kinda gross and not in a fun visceral way . More goofy . Which a lot of Six Hundred Strike is, tbf, but like ,,, Idk I wish they sounded different I guess
#epic critical#vengeance saga critical#vengeance saga spoilers#epic the musical critical#for the record I still love the song and the saga and the screams arent even like . that bothersome .#I just see people being like ‘oh the screams were SO GOOD’ and it’s like .#waow I wish I could see the beauty they see… alas .
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Btw, not sorry for loving you : only redeeming quality is that it's not as disgusting as love in paradise. Otherwise it really feels like Jorge was just forced to put Calypso in the musical because it's an inevitable part of the Odyssey and didn't think twice about what he was writing. He sanitized Circe to remain family friendly then wrote this disgusting duology of songs. And we're left with nothing at the end of it because Calypso was just there and then gone. I mean no, not nothing, sorry I forgot that we have the luck to hear Odysseus claim that he loves his goddamn abuser. Yes that was essential to add. If at least at least he had cut this part then we could just be let to see what a monster Calypso is and then (try to) move on. But no she had to be forgiven. That is disgusting. No other word ever
#dammit I've been a calypso defender my whole life and this guy just ruined my record#no let's go and never listen to those songs again and pretend they never existed#which will be easy cause calypso was completely USELESS#her only purpose was to push me away from epic and make me cautious of every new word#epic the musical#the vengeance saga#epic the vengeance saga#I'm not sorry for loving you#musical: epic#song: not sorry for loving you#character: calypso (epic)#anti calypso epic#text#oli schist!
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I really like Yoko Hiromine character wise but Alcor just feels like a better explored and justifiable version of her character. Also he and Hibiki's bond is established really well across the game. Devil Survivor 2 is amazing.
#yoko hiromine#alcor#al saiduq#anguished one#the anguished one#desu#desu2#devil survivor#devil survivor 2#record breaker#megaten#smt#shin megami tensei#atlus#smtv vengeance#smtv protagonist#smtvv#smtv#hibiki kuze#nahobino
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