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Good morning class, today I'm going to show you some examples of one of my favorite genres in kpop:
come, take this journey with me:
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It was recently brought to my attention that the people are forgetting...
so let me remind you
Christian Horse Girl Music is not Christian Horse Girl just because of its sound. The concept matters, too. Jesus was not in the room with ONF when Wyatt switched it up with his rap
I digress. Here are some examples - you might notice a recurring theme of innocence & that the songs tend to be lighter - more positive. A lot of synth pop and orchestral elements can be found in this genre.
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#thank you for coming to my TED talk#i take my christian horse girl music very seriously#lovelyz#they own this genre#although angel by berry good is easily the best of it#kpop#addy.txt#Youtube
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hi lissie! i'm the same anon who asked abt your sign-off and your minisode 3 thoughts, i'll be 🌻 if that's okay~ i'm glad to hear your thoughts on the album!
i haven't really thought about whether or not concept photos should reflect the album sound, but i do think in minisode 3's case it definitely shaped my expectations! the photos and concept trailer had a whole magical realism with a touch of sad longing vibe going on... i'll definitely check out the woodz and onf songs you linked to (i already love love love black swan). and i do love your approach to listening broadly, not just different kinds of kpop but also different genres outside it! it's a good way to build your taste and figure out what kind of music works for you. like this year i've been trying to listen to more female artists bc i noticed that my spotify artists tend to skew male.
i also read your other txt album reviews and i breathed a HUGE sigh of relief when you said tinnitus felt stagnant / droning... other fans are always raving about how it's one of their best b-sides but to me the song just sounds too static for me to feel the same. and i guess that goes w the theme of wanting to be a rock but i personally don't find that compelling to listen to? farewell neverland and blue spring were also my faves on temptation and freefall, i think i just like acoustic / acoustic-esque songs haha.
i'm actually curious about your thoughts on tdc: eternity and tdc: magic! personally eternity is my fave txt album sound-wise so i'd love to know what your faves there are too~
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lissie: welcome 🌻 anon! sorry for the late reply cause i’ve been drowning with deadlines (it’s my exam week so…) but i have time now to answer you!
i, for one, believe that visual and audio should match in some way. there’s a few reasons as to why i usually ranked comebacks so low if the visual teasers doesn’t match up with what the title track (at least) sounds like because they came packaged together. most kpop comebacks usually revolve more around the performance and visual rather than sound nowadays and i’ve seen a lot more reviews saying that kpop albums sounds more like a compilation as it’s not cohesive enough. so that’s why i cherish tdc: magic and eternity so much.
that’s why i was hoping for the magical, fantasy sound you mentioned on your previous ask to be in this comeback and not just deja vu! and of course, do check them out. i’ve been trying to get people to know more about onf cause their discography is top-notch. their producer is the same as the one who produced 2016-2020 loona songs (monotree). woodz also has a unique trajectory in his career from being in uniq, to soloist, to x1, to then focus on soloist. i love that he, txt, and dreamcatcher are the pioneers of the pop rock sound within kpop idols. and yeah, listening to expanding your music taste palette also helps in your kpop experience, like, you can actually appreciate more on songs fans usually know as “noise music” cause you’ll know the specific genres it’ll be.
ah yes tinnitus. i forgot to mention the killa in your last ask so i’m doing it here. i think people like tinnitus and the killa so much because of the performance aspect. txt is not known as the mature/sexy boys compared to, let’s say, enhypen (even though i hate that thought so much cause i feel icky towards the impact of it now). so when they have those types of performances, of course, it’ll pop off. sex sells everywhere, including kpop acts and writings fics. so that’s why they've become the more known b-sides recently and that’s why i said that the killa is trying to be tinnitus in a way that trust fund baby wants to be anti-romantic. sure, tinnitus is catchy af but i still think that it is too droning if listened to by itself outside of seeing the performance. my reviews are coming from the musical aspect, not the performance.
yes! i love acoustic sound so much. plus i think when it comes to farewell, neverland like the song itself is so cohesive and it matches the neverland concept so much.
ooh i, for one, think that both magic and eternity really embody each of their concepts both visually and sonically. i like tdc: magic (other than it's a full album rather than an ep) because it is just full of fun sonic experimentations. almost all the songs sound different yet still create a cohesiveness, especially between the run from new rules to can we just leave the monster alive?; but also with the concept. imo, it is a timeless album imo (tho having angel or devil as the last track makes it lacking in compare to new rules as a perfect opening track. i would love to make leave the monster alive as the outro track for the album)
as for tdc: eternity, i like it more because of the music and it does well in combining more of the fantastical side to make an album solely to tell about a dissolution of friendship from growing up. most of the songs there are part of playlists i made (i do like drama, but i like the slow-down version from the eternity concept trailer which i have put the soundcloud audio of below vv). can you see me is so cool, i can sing along to puma from the start, fairy of shampoo is so twinkly, i can play maze in the mirror on my guitar and basically can make a cover for it (if yall want), and eternally: best stage performance from their concert (i've been able to see it twice and i love both iterations) and such a dynamic song
will be posting your second ask next!
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#not izone related but#recently i noticed ONF and they are so good??#their dances are hard... they sing really well live...#their main vocal is honestly powering through with vocals dancing and presence and he's getting slept on smh...#and the guy who i think is the main dancer... holy crap he is GOOD SO GOOD he is SO sharp#u can tell from stages that their teamwork is quite nice as well tbh the only thing they are missing is stage presence#also i like all their songs and have been listening to them for the past week :')#but im calling this... even tho itll take a while for them to get noticed#just like how i called bts and nuest... i think onf will find their success eventually#as long as they dont lose their drive on the way#delete later
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pls do talk more about b*s and their current image (censoring because if you don’t have great things to say i don’t want you to be attacked by their crazy stans :))
i always bring this up when i talk about them but it’s really :( that they are the way they are now. like i was a fan because of their hyyh era and their songs about the troubled youth. and of course they can’t stay in that image forever (because we all grow up and it would just be v fake if they tried to continue it given their status and wealth now.) it’s just disappointing that they went down the ‘safe, disney image’ and are releasing generic mainstream pop songs people will forget after a couple listens. i’m no longer a fan of them now but yuh.
also not to mention how they essentially made kpop boring for me now lol i wish companies had fun with their music selections instead of aiming for whatever b*s has. like we will never get a group like orange caramel again (i know wjsn chocome’s concept was similar but it just didn’t feel the same. you talked about it before and i wholeheartedly agree with ur points.)
thank you for the consideration of censoring the name but honestly i'm not that worried about it. i do however find the increasingly creative ways people censor it to be extremely hilarious so keep it up if you would like.
i addressed most of the first part of your ask in the second part of my response here, this is now the third installment in a series, somehow. (the first part is here).
not to level this at you in specific anon, because i know a lot of people share this sentiment of kpop being 'boring' now, and while there is an element of this that is influenced by bts, and although it is true we aren't getting the same level of wild that produced orange caramel, there is actually interesting and kinda weird stuff happening in kpop; it's just not by the groups that are getting the most attention. dreamcatcher has been out here doing horror rock since their debut in 2017. onf has put out two excellent summer pop tracks with fun and stupid genre mvs. i love this recent ghost9 track. i'm obsessed with the instrumental in the chorus of bdc's moon walker. just b debuted last month with a strange bang yongguk track and a very 2013 feeling mv. here's another weird and fun boy group debut, blitzers. a.c.e have put out favourite boys, the fave boyz remix, down, and higher as their last four releases which all have the most coherent and well designed concepts in the last year. and while i'm at it i might as well include take me higher and undercover. oneus put out a mad max themed performance video randomly for no reason like three weeks ago. the rest of the industry were cowards for not following up on to be or not to be with a shakespeare comeback wave. rip onlyoneof but they gave us a whole three week comeback of dick grabs. hanya brought my attention to this weird as shit debut track from a group that has now totally disappeared. knk's sunset exists. we moved on way too fast from the mv because taeyang was being cunty on music shows but sf9's teardrop has probably some of the most interesting shots in a kpop mv in the last several years. and we definitely moved on too fast from my favourite just some guy and goofy movie character woodz's feel like.
i think it's pretty fatalistic to view bts as having singlehandedly made the industry boring because honestly......i don't think they have. if you want to talk about the downturn to plainclothes styling....well that's shinee's fault. and the general trend to less dramatic fashion and visual tastes is not exclusive to the kpop industry, it's been a whole cultural trend. the mid to late 2010s were the rise of 'normcore' and we haven't burst the bubble yet. bts is just reflecting trends happening in the wider world, and in particular the western one. for the most viewed kpop mv of 2020 dynamite did....what exactly? it didn't really spawn any significant copycats in terms of sound or aesthetics, with the exception of maybe superm's we do if you look at it a bit sideways. although this is one of bts' better styled mvs, 70s retro did not make any resurgence in kpop styling, EXCEPT in magazine and fashion shoots, which it was already doing in the west. taemin's criminal was significantly more influential; i can think of at least three different male soloist mvs that borrowed heavily from it. honestly i think stylists and groups are trying to steer as clear as possible of whatever aesthetics bts uses, lest they accidentally doom themselves to a (perceived) slighted fanbase. plus, there's been a pretty sizable resurgence in contemporary hanbok styling, so even though there is a lot more outward attention going to things like international promotions for other groups and whatever the hell sm keeps trying to do with nct, i think a fair amount of companies are interested in maintaining the koreanness of kpop while facilitating broader global access.
and honestly, bigger acts have also put out interesting things in the last year. we did all see taemin's back to back release roster for ngda right? criminal? idea???? advice???????? fuck, chocolate was barely a year ago. whatever your opinions on yunho are, thank u is fucking brilliant mv. sunmi's tail. lie to me and tell me the mv for you can't sit with us isn't fun as fuck. i dunno what the hell the new nct127 song is gonna be like but the teaser photos and mood sampler are weird as hell and i'm absolutely interested. he's only kpop adjacent at the moment but jackson's 100 ways and lmly are really sharply produced low budget mvs with clean and interesting visuals. maniac shot to the top of my most listened immediately after it dropped because lia kim AND those slick horns in the instrumental???? ten's paint me naked was not at all what i was expecting but it's still fun as hell and has a pretty unique aesthetic.
the tldr of this whole three parter is this: bts has always been reactionary to wider cultural trends and that's been how they've made it this far. yes their influence on the industry looms very large because of the predominence of them on the scene, but it's mostly in the perception of kpop rather than in the artistry of it.
i don't think any company is going to be able to achieve what bts and hybe have, which i think is fine. they're the scale tipped too far. hopefully by now most companies have probably noticed that they don't need to cater to the western market so hard, and that it's probably not a good idea to offer their artists up on the racist chopping block of the western pop scene. you can market to an international fanbase without trying to gun for a grammy or for billboard or whatever. creating interesting art should be at the fore, not numbers goals. but we're just gonna have to wait and see what happens in the next year or so.
#now if youll excuse me im going to go listen to the mixnine love in the ice stage again for the 524th time#because i have FEELINGS and today has been a LOT#i dont know that im necessarily saying anything that other people havent said before but yea#there is definitely a saturation in the market but i really dont think you can blame that on bts#there are many other groups that have proved the industry is heavily profitable#it is very reasonable that there is a glut. finding the gold may require a bit more sifting but it's still there#honestly watching the music shows is the best and easiest way to keep engaged and finding new stuff#you dont even have to watch the whole show. you can just watch the stages#that's what i do in the morning. like reading the newspaper lmao#i will answer more questions about bts if people have them but i will try not to make them this long because this is just unreasonable#875#kpop questions#kpop analysis#group analysis#text#answers
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Hello dear fustasy bestie, I'm a anon that has never said anything to you but I saw onf and sf9 and I'm now currently in my fustasy feels really bad, but recently me and my friend were talking about flirty onf (They (hyojin, mk, and wyatt) been flirty these past days on their bubble) and like we're trying to see what kind of flirts they are 👀👄👀👉👈 got any opinions?? 👀👄👀👉👈 ngl I honestly feel like mk and jus are the type to flirt with you but tease you for getting flustered even though they know exactly why👀👄👀💧🤌
Fustasy! That's cute
Uuh I'm not sure if it'll sound accurate since I'm still getting used to writing these boys. Anyways here we go!!
ONF as flirts
Warning: The headcanons below are overall fluffy. Just slightly sensual for some of them
Hyojin is the type to promise you things, honey. Yes. He guarantees that he's the best guy for you. He'll take you to the best restaurants, serenade you on your way home. Boy is so charming that in case you don't ask him to spend the night with you, he will be in your mind the whole night. You'll rewind the moment he whispered at your ear 34674 times
Bonus links: What if you ask Hyojin to stay the night with you? + afterglow and day after
J-us: oh, I love how smiley and bubbly he is and I think he uses his friendly energy to make you obsessed with him. Our Off Leader's hands would slide from your shoulders to your back and give you shivers as he looks absolutely innocent. You get confused at the mixed signs 🤭
E-tion: I think despite him being the fashion leader and all, he's more of old school when it comes to flirting. He asks to hold your hand, confesses how good he feels with you and bang, you're into him so easily. I really feel like he's straightforward with his intentions.
Wyatt: does he need to do anything? Haha okay, Jaeyoung is a gentleman and is flirty as hell. He's very fond of listening to you talking and for some mysterious reason you can't stop telling him everything about your life. Then you worry because you think you talked too much and he just says "I guess I'm falling for you but I don't wanna anyone to catch me". He also traces circles on the back of your hand to make you stutter.
Mk: we know Minkyun is so noisy but I'm gonna remind you all that he's a Scorpio! He knows how to flirt, so you both start the date saying bullshit and being dumb (because if you are going out with him I assume that your sense of humor matches his). Then the hours fly and he's suddenly staring into your eyes so silently. You go like "why are you so quiet, Kyun?" And he explains he was just thinking but it was something inappropriate 🤭
Bonus link: what did MK think?
U: like Tion, Yuto is not a big flirt but you feel so yourself with him! He showers you with compliments but not in an awkward way. It's just natural. You catch yourself already wanting to cling to him. He notices how close you're getting thus he just hooks your arm with his so you can both feel each other's warmth. Buddy, he just wants your lips to meet already. Will end up stealing a peck from you when you say goodbye.
Note: Aah writing this little thing was more enjoyable than I expected 🙃
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ohhhh yeah, i get it. i only rewatch like,,,, two/three perfs from kingdom with one being on repeat just bc there's no studio version and i like the song but !!! the rest is kinda,,,, alright but not something i rlly need to watch :// but what are your favourite performances from both show btw !!! i didn't even ask :o also,,,, a strawberry, i love it <3
im sorry for always replying so late skdjjkjbkdsnjs BUT hm faves... (this ended up being ridiculously long for some reason so im putting it under a read more)
for rtk: heroine, reveal (catching fire), be mine, it's raining, the we must love, quasi una fantasia, photo!!!!! also tbz and i think? onf's intro perfs!!! maybe golchas too? it was either onf or golcha or both honestly i can't remember but i remember there being smth i rlly liked in there!! i really liked come back home & basquiat & new world but more as songs than . the perfs (or ok i liked the perfs in the mvs more than on the show). lit perf gets bonus points for having rapper seoho. i literally listen to this version more than the original song because of that verse. it makes me go a bit insane. it's ranked like 2 or 3 songs higher than the original version in my oneus song ranking i think. yeah.
heroine makes me cry to this day i really genuinely love it so much it's insane. like. everything about it. like if u wanted my commentary i would just pause literally every 2 seconds to point out smth i like or just to cry about it all? ALSO CHANGMIN'S SMILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sighs ok moving on, reveal is iconic it doesn't need an explanation i think. i think we all get it. i was rewatching it recently nd i noticed that literally every time i see the moment when hyunjae runs up to the . things they lift whatever. if i'm watching the show cut w the others' reactions i literally have this a bit insane hehehhehehehe laugh like. am i ok. like hehehehe ure not ready for this (and neither am i). also i literally can't listen to the original version of reveal since this came out and i wish i was kidding but i'm really not like i literally just listen to this one. be mine is just beautiful to look at also romeo youngjo that's all thank u. also seoho during the last chorus (i think? im literally doing this from memory im sorrykdsfk) ..... yeah ... idk it's really nice and i think choosing romeo & juliet as the concept for this song was a great idea (nd i literally don't know how u come up with that. but it's so great). i like the storytelling in this one i rlly do <3 it's raining is the queen of performances no one does it like them!!!!!!!! like i genuinely thought i wouldn't be that attached to this perf when i first saw it? like funnily enough i was just like yea it's nice but whatever. but then it would randomly play in my head and i just couldn't stop it? and then i became obsessed. it's so fun...it's a little festival...also they literally made it's raining their song it's so. god it's so good. i'm going to lose my mind if i keep going. as for we must love well 1) [at the time it was] my fave onf title track? and the concept they chose for the performance just was like .... they literally did it for me it's so insanely just .. exactly what i would have wanted it's everything i love ?? ... it's so . i still kinda can't believe that performance exists like . i forgot to mention it at first because i keep forgetting about it because like . it can't be real???
for kingdom: love poem, i'll be your man, back door, move. i also remember being rlly excited for o sole mio (the red wedding) but i genuinely can't remember if i ended up liking it or not?
love poem is absolutely legendary i'm not gonna write a whole essay abt that, i'll be your man gave me everything i wanted (fave btob song, skz beloveds, those outfits were rlly pretty, blue hair jisung again!!!!!!!!!! nd neck tattoo..), and btob are so powerful that they made me appreciate back door how did they do that. i dont like back door. how did they do that. what did they do. how. and finally sf9 doing move was . . . everything i think we all get it i dont think anyone would dare to disagree
#tbh all the tbz perfs from rtk were <3#for kingdom spark would have been up there but i feel too bad for inseong when the voice crack happens so i cant . listen to it#i didnt like most of the skz performances but ill be your man was for me <3#also there were some perfs i rewatched a lot but im not quite sure why i was so obsessed#(ok that was very specifically abt ikon in the intro perfs. why could i not stop watching that rhythm ta perf i couldnt tell u)#(actually no i can im just obsessed w jinhwan)#nd like. i liked the rap collabs? but i dont listen to them often i dont watch them often they were fun to watch the first time around tho#angie 🍓#millie's rep#for rtk i think its easier to list perfs i actively disliked bc there was more of a clear line between what i enjoyed nd what i didnt with#very few perfs in between that were just kinda underwhelming or boring to me personally#meanwhile kingdom as a whole just felt . like that line in between with a few exceptions of perfs i loved yknow#(for the perfs i disliked. mansae & everybody)#THIS IS SO LONG IM SO SORRY ANGIE SKDJFJKDSB#what are yours <3
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ONF UNIVERSITY AU
A/n : ok this is just the first (?) elaboration of the au. This is also meshed with senpai au. I actually already had a few moodboards (Yuto and Minseok ones) and a senpai AU of Seungjoon that opened up the idea, its just i did not have the time and luxury to expand the au. Another reason was that timing i am still learning about ONF so I don't want to go too OOC on things I am not familiar with.
To keep it short, the boys actually formed a dance club and they named themselves ONF
I do said dance club but if you wanna utilise it like F4 from meteor garden, it totally flexible
Also totally doable if you wanna use the university au as the main worldbuilding for other AU, examples, Sibling AU, or any BF headcanons I have mentioned like the MTL for PDA. MTL to confess and MTL to leave hickies, so do check out masterlist (that is constantly updating )
Also, even though it might retcon some setting I have already done, but it is totally doable for University AU to be the prequel for Office AU.
OH HEADS UP, FOR THIS AU I AM ALTERING THEIR AGE. Their real life age difference are about 4-5 years which is unrealistic to fit for the au, so shrink age difference to 1-2 years.
One of the project they did as a dance club, which they uploaded
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Let see the members headcanons below
Hyojin : Probably musical student but if we were to jump out from stereotype,I do feel him studying marketing (analysts side)
OK if this boy does not finish his assignments in the cafeteria, then he is not Kim Hyojin lol. Constantly munching something while he trying to finish assignment or solve a problematic question
Even if Seungjoon drags him to library to do assignments . HYOJIN DEFO GONNA MAKE EXCUSE TO BUY BEVERAGE FOR THE 2 OF THEM AND SNEAKS OUT FOR A SHORT WHILE.
The type that try his best on getting good results on every class. But he never brags about it.
Should we give him a senpai au plot, I would write him as the senpai you have a crush on since high school and you did not know he attend the same university as you.
Changyoon : Design student for sure😉 Interior design, graphic design or even fashion design. Oh! Film Director also not bad? (I mean he has loads of ideas and thoughts also let's not forget about Incomplete MV)
Ppl which are not in their circles would be like, "how did you even get along with the others?" Because his majors are very different compared to the other 6
Hmm I do feel it is more like Changyoon did not make the first move to join the group. Probably the Capricorns/ENFPS (Seungjoon or Jaeyoung)
So maybe he kinda drop by to a short marketing class so that he can gain insight on how advertisements film can grasp audience heart. There he either met Hyojin or Seungjoon (maybe both) ,then only the bond gets deeper
After knowing each other he finally comfortable to be himself and does not feel awkward anymore...
Also including this hc here because I only thought of it when writing. HYOJIN,CHANGYOON, SEUNGJOON AND MINKYUN teaming up to sing something? Like them 4 have a YouTube channel that upload their covers, without showing their faces, using illustrations drawn by Changyoon
Seungjoon : Could go for science genre or maybe business administration? Also anything related with mathematics(that need flexible solving) might suit him too
Might occasionally appear in the library. Not really searching for books to read,more on giving himself the environment to complete assignments. But visits bookstore too
Maybe, the most social-able being in the group. Constantly waving or say hi to acquaintance/classmates passing by. Even though that, there are never rumours or scandals of Seungjoon being playboy. (But totally the first one in the group to get a GF, hint established in his senpai au)
Like people only notices the group because of him because of his social skills. Its kind of like the fairy who brings/enlarge the fandom lol
You can read his Senpai au here
Might doing part time job at a cafe nearby university because of distance+ time convenience purposes. The other members of the group might occasionally hang out at the place, waiting for him to finish his shift or Yuto to finish his lessons and then they go eat dinner
Jaeyoung : High chance of choosing communication related genre or/also social science/sociology related genre. I won't be surprised if he will choose psychology or behavioural science
Easily to find him in library searching for books to read/expand his pov. Sitting beside windows
One of the hyungs that will explains Korean to Yuto. Especially idioms.
First impression would be the quiet good looking one that definitely gonna stay back to ask lecturer more questions
The second on in the group to get a GF. But very very low key.
Linking to the tutor AU I posted recently, he might be teaching online to gain extra income because he does not want to do part time job to exhaust himself as he want to reserve energy to dance. Which also the main factor he suggested Yuto to do online teaching later
Minkyun : Musical student but focusing on composing. To jump from stereotypes, he could be going to broadcast communications, to become professional radio DJ
He might also join another club which is established by uni it self to make radio broadcast that plays at the cafeteria.
Cues in other members all recognise his voice immediately. Lol if he qccidentally messed up on some wordings, the next time they meet they are gonna tease him for sure haha
OK this applies to all of them but I only remembered to include this during writing for Minkyun, the boys are totally banned from playing any games at the cafeteria lol (not a strict ban but they are loud lol.) So they changed plans to play game and hangout at home, with Yuto coming over to sleep over.
Yuto : the exchange student / the foreign student who is majoring in Korean language. High chance going for Korean language teaching later.
Once they knew Yuto's Korean Proficiency level are above average, the boys are supportive and proud of him af. Lol also his devilish hyungs teasing him that he should get a girlfriend, it is a way to master language lol
Cues in his hyungs helping him out by giving him small tests of Korean grammar
Could be the only one who lives in university dorms. But he gets to have sleepovers with his hyungs at their house during weekends (rent or family residence,up to you)
Even encourages him to try out online teaching beginners first to gain experiences
Probably feeling sadden the most when found out Minseok had to quit university. Also could not help feeling lonely when his hyungs graduated. (Some did extend studies but some did not. My hunch, Minkyun and Chang Yoon could be the first two to graduated first. Jaeyoung and Yuto being the last two to graduate)
Minseok : a junior who studies history and choosing Japanese + Chinese as sub majors. Who knows, he might choose translating/interpreting as major later (I mean have you seen some interviews where he used Japanese and Chinese, damn his pronunciation is good, trust me cos i speak both language)
Did not get to stay long, maybe just 1 year and a half then he had to quit university because his whole family are moving out from the country (no worries they contact each other online frequently). His hyungs defo doing a farewell party for him.
Even though short time, but he gained the title of university sweetheart by the first day he starts uni.
Same as Seungjoon and Jaeyoung, the type to find him in library alot.
Of course gonna ask Yuto a lot of Japanese grammar questions
BTW if link to Sibling AU, should we link it to the double Kim household, Minseok did not drop out. He could have participated an exchange program and had to leave for overseas to complete a course at a better institute
A/N : Ok I am gonna stop here before it gets even messier (slaps forehead I changdolled while writing this)
#onf#onf headcanons#onf imagines#onf headcanon#onf scenarios#university au#senpai au#scheduled#kim hyojin#lee changyoon#lee seungjoon#shim jaeyoung#park minkyun#mizuguchi yuto#kim minseok#onf hyojin#onf j-us#onf e-tion#onf wyatt#onf mk#onf u#onf laun
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Road to Kingdom Final Thoughts
I originally made a post before Road to Kingdom started on my opinions on each group so now I am making my final thoughts on each group.
<this will contain spoilers!!>
-Pentagon
-I had very high expectations for them
-But in my opinion they didn’t really meet them...
-I liked Pentagon for their brighter concepts so probably that’s the reason
-My favorite stage they did was their Sine/Spring Snow stage
-I cried watching it because of Jinho
-I also really liked their Very Good stage
-I am a Very Good enthusiast Very Good is one of my favorite songs of all time and Pentagon pulled it off perfectly
-Honestly even though they didn’t meet my expectations doesn’t mean they didn’t preform well
-I think all of their performances where top quality
-Although I didn’t really like the Kill This Love cover they did with ONF
-For what I saw either you love it or hate it (and I am one of the ones who hate it)
-Kill This Love is my least favorite BlackPink song but their is some parts of the song that I like but they changed/cut those parts out
-Overall Pentagon did a great job and hopefully they gain new universes out of it
-The Boyz
-After the second episode of Road to Kingdom aired I became a TheB
-No regrets and I recently bought their Bloom Bloom album
-I love each and every performance they did in rtk
-Danger is a masterpiece and maybe one of my favorite stages of all time
-I couldn’t stop watching it for weeks
-I also loved their Reveal Catching Fire stage it was jaw dropping each time they do something I kept thinking it can’t get any more crazy then this and the next second they surprise me again and again
-Their stage with Oneus was amazing Heroine is my favorite Sunmi song of all time
-Chanhee’s vocals really shined
-In my opinion they should have won the collaboration part of the competition but that’s my opinion 🙂
-Checkmate is an amazing song when I thought they couldn’t get anymore creative after Shangri-La Quasi una fantasia but I was proven wrong
-Rip Juyeon’s branch I didn’t even notice the mistake until someone pointed it out
-Also when I was watching the live stream for the last episode I had a mini heart attack when Sunwoo just fell off the stairs
-The Boyz really killed it they won 3 times in a row and they moved on to Kingdom!! 👏👏👏
-If they don’t gain a crazy amount of fans because of rtk something is wrong
-THE BOYZ WORLD DOMINATION
-Oneus
-I had pretty high expectations for them song wise because they have so many good songs
-I was a little disappointed with their Warriors Descendant stage it didn’t have the impact the other groups had sadly
-My favorite stage form them is definitely their Lit stage
-I felt like that stage was more way better then their MAMA stage
-I also really enjoyed their Be Mine stage
-And out of all the original songs they performed at the last episode on first listen Come Back Home was my favorite
-When watching rtk I realized that Oneus is one of those groups that have songs only made for Oneus but because they are like that I feel like when they cover songs it’s less powerful and doesn’t have the same effect
-Probably the reason why it doesn’t have the same effect is because the songs they cover weren’t able to show Oneus’s strengths
-Whoever makes Oneus’s songs really knows Oneus’s strengths
-Anyways Oneus has a very bright future so please support them!
-Golden Child
-I was VERY disappointed that they got eliminated first 😔
-Their Wannabe stage was my second favorite stage from that round
-Like Joochan freaking played a violin live isn’t that cool???!!!
-I still cannot find the reason why they where eliminated they should have moved on to the finals
-Because of rtk I have been addicted to some of their songs
-Jangjun single handily saving the rtk tense atmosphere but when he left uhhh it was sorta a mess
-I watched all the Jang Star videos on Dingo and he is so funny you should really watch them if you want a good laugh
-Jangjun is probably gonna be very popular with the korean public I can see him being a very successful comedian
-Anyways Golden Child deserves better TOO or Verivery should have been eliminated that round sorry
-Hope they can still walk their golden path to the successful future they are gonna have
-ONF
-I was blown away by them
-They really proved themselves to me
-I was first shocked with their Everybody stage
-Then now I can’t get the “neon nal salanghage doel geoya” out of my head
-That line slaps every time I watch that performance
-Also Yooa
-Their It’s Raining stage all I have to say is “wow”
-Their It’s Raining stage is my favorite ONF stage from rtk
-Even with my bias of The Boyz I feel like they deserved first place that round that performance was just amazing
-New World slapped tho
-When watching rtk I fell in love with Hyojin and E-tion’s vocals
-I really like ONF’s vocals and will keep supporting them!
-Verivery
-I wasn’t really a fan of their performance the first few rounds only after their gogobebe stage I started getting interested in them
-I personally wasn’t a fan of their Mansae cover
-I love Seventeen but the cover seemed all over the place
-I also wasn’t really a fan of their Photo stage
-But their gogobebe stage really caught my attention
-Tbh I think they should have gotten eliminated first instead of Golden Child
-My favorite stage by far from them was gogobebe and beautiful-x I can’t choose
-The ON cover was cool but not my style in my opinion they didn’t really add anything really special to it to make it their own
-But good job for them for surviving this long
-TOO
-In the beginning I was worried for them
-But their Rising Sun performance really made me question their debut date
-After Rising Sun I was expecting more from them but tbh their next stage was pretty boring to be
-I was worried for this exact thing to happen where they have to perform their own song but they just debuted so they can’t do much
-So I was sorta disappointed in that stage
-But can we talk about their cute interaction with GOT7
-I am an Ahgase and seeing that clip really warmed my heart
-I was sad they got eliminated on the round they performed Hard Carry
-At first I didn’t really like the cover but I kept watching it and I now really like the fact they changed it to their style and didn’t try to copy GOT7
-Good job TOO for your hard work!
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Last thoughts: I am so glad I watched rtk because now I realize how much I love The Boyz. Rtk definitely started a huge standard on what we are gonna see on Kingdom.
Groups I think would go on Kingdom: MonstaX, Sf9, Stray Kids, Ateez, Astro, and Nu’est (if they are gonna ask a solo artist to join possibly Kang Daniel).
I am literally gonna pull my hair out when watching Kingdom. I am also worried for The Boyz because they just came out of rtk and Kingdom is in the same year. Also how Younghoon and Kevin have injuries so I hope they heal by the time Kingdom airs.
Do you think they would have a Road To Queendom?
What groups do you think would possibly join if they did do it?
My groups I hope will if they make one: fromis_9, Cherry Bullet, Nature, Dia, Weki Meki, Gugudan, and Rocket Punch.
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Hi 💕✨💕✨ Could you ship your mutuals with The Boyz? 👀
i love this kind of asks because i can go full love-connoiseur and think who would be more compatible with who so absolutely yes i could and i will. i don’t have many mutuals tho so i’ll only do the people i talk to more often+stan the boyz! i wish i had fuse mutuals because i’d ship them with onf too :(
isa ( @bluedelilah ): Sunwoo. i don’t know how much you will agree with this but i’ve already said it before that i think you two would both look good together and be good for each other? from things like how sunwoo seems kind of impatient with some things (like how he gets desperate @ the wifi lag in vlives or tends to scream when someone scares him) and meanwhile you’re calm i don’t think i have ever in my life seen you angry so i feel like you two would balance each other out and i feel like he’d almost even find your calmness somewhat contagious?? and feel quite chill and at ease with you. also you’re both scaredy cats so watching horror movies is out the window and he’s probably the type to cry easily at movies too so i think you two would have similar taste. the type to cry during a sentimental part in a movie but tease you about if he sees you crying even though he’s crying too? a dumbass but a cute dumbass. he’s super talented and i feel that’s very charming and you’re both very creative so i think you’d like that about each other. I think Sunwoo wouldn’t be the best with words or most meaningful actions for example when you feel sad but you’d be able to feel just how much he cares and wants to help and cheer you up so he’d do whatever he can if he can to distract you from whatever’s bugging you. also i read he doesn’t like vegetables and u like spinach and that stuff so. u can eat the vegetables he doesn’t like so that’s great we love teamwork. ngl i thought of shipping you with jacob but he’s such an angel i’m not sure if any of us would deserve him
mirfio ( @zhangpdf ): Sangyeon. i ship you with sangyeon because you two are so reliable i feel like you could lean on each other for anything (he’s also super caring as we all know so he’d listen to whatever you need to talk about or if you just wanna be alone for whatever reason then he’ll let you be with no problem because i doubt he’d be a super needy clingy bf esp if you don’t want him to be.) i’d say he’d be alone with you if you want to but then??? what’s my role in this family anymore?? i’m the one who gets to be alone with you when you need to be alone and we stand in silence together thanks. i feel like he’d also be the type to be quite thoughtful but not in a cringy-cheesy way? he’d think of different spots you could like/you’ve mentioned you wanted to go recently like for example a cat café or a zoo and he’d take you there !! i feel like he’d put your happiness before his own even but at the same time i feel there wouldn’t be much wrong with that because his happiness wouldn’t be ignored anyway because you’d also take good care of him and you’re very realistic and mature so whenever he’s worried about anything you know just what to say that’s not just sweet words to make him feel better but the actual truth. and also he’s quite dorky sometimes and you are v silly so you two would have those moments of just being dumb together and laughing so hard at the silliest things
L ( @nyuwings ): Younghoon. i feel like i don’t know you that well on a personal level and obviously neither do i know younghoon personally BUT i just??? feel it??? that you two would be really cute together because you are both really sweet i feel you’d be very nice to each other, you’d give each other the attention+affection you two need (i feel like he’d be especially affectionate idk younghoon looks like a cuddly boy to me) and i also feel like, even though he’d also let you know with words frequently, actions would be more his love language towards you. holding your hand whenever, surprising you by buying you your favorite drink and snack when you’re stressed during exams period and it’s hard to find time for a break to even get something to eat. i feel like he’d also be the cheesy type to like, imagine it’s really cold then he’d love to either share a blanket together and snuggle or imagine he’s wearing a big coat/jacket and he’ll open his arms for you to hug him and then he’ll try to close it (but not fully just with his hands) around you so that you two can be warm sjfndsjknfs or if you’re walking somewhere he’d probably be the type to take your hand and put inside his coat’s pocket with his sjfndsjf overall really sweet and really loving and i feel like you deserve someone like that and as far as i know you i think younghoon would also deserve someone like you,,, he will always know he’s so loved and appreciated and supported by you and that’ll make him the happiest :( <3 im soft
marta: this is an ig mutual i have who i don’t think has a tumblr account but !! we’ve been talking a lot lately so i wanna try and ship her too so i’ll send a ss to her! Juyeon. Juyeon is more extroverted than introverted according to his mbti but he’s not like most of the other extroverted members? i see him as someone super sweet and caring and you too seem super caring as far as i know you! you are very supportive over people’s passions like for example art!! i always see you sharing other people’s arts to try and promote them or for example you always have something nice to say when i’ve shown any sketches or anything i’ve done and i feel Juyeon would also be that kind of supporting and caring? i feel like you two would be really positive for each other, motivating each other to do your bests, sharing your problems and overcoming them together with the promise of how everything is going to be okay no matter how stressing it may get, like when you’re so busy you barely even have time for your hobbies. Juyeon would listen to you vent about uni if you needed to and once you feel like you’ve let out a little of that burden he’d offer something you two can do to get distracted from the stress and just have fun together. If you ever drew him he’d feel so touched and he’d love you even more deeply than he already would. he’d also try to be romantic by telling you compliments but not like in a way that’ll make it overwhelming? as in if he cut your hair he’ll notice and he’ll smile sweetly at you and say that you look really beautiful :( sweet boy juyeon
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2019 favorite songs (male version)
A/N: This is all my personal opinions and these are the songs that stood out to me this year and are the most memorable for me. Also this post will be long
Here is my top 10 for those who don’t want to see the rest
1. Rooftop - N.Flying
2. Soso - Winner
3. Wonderland - Ateez
4. Highway to Heaven - NCT 127
5. Undercover - A.C.E
7. Lit - Oneus
8. Sweet Chaos- Day6
9. Savage - A.C.E
10. Fuego - U-Kwon
January
“Lonely Night” - KNK
I was anticipating KNK’s return. I was very curious as to what they would do after leaving their company and having Youjin leave and Dongwon join. But they did not disappoint at all. Dongwon proved himself very much and it’s one of my favs this year.
“I’m OK” - iKon
I was so ready for this song. I love it so much. I was so ready for this song I was at school ready for it. iKon have never disappointed me with a song and this one is no exception. I adore it and listening to it makes me miss B.I.
“Say My Name” & “Hala Hala” - Ateez
Ateez was always on my radar. But these songs really made me notice them you know. I still bop to them both daily and like this is peak Kpop to me. This is the standard I expect from groups. Ateez really is out here to kill
“Rooftop” - N.flying
This song might be favorite this year. I’m not the biggest N.Flying stan (Really getting into them tho) and I love this song. This song might be my number 1 this year. I love it so much.
February
“Want” - Taemin
Taemin is a god. That’s all I really have to say. Like Taemin really is on another level. This whole album is a blessing.
“Enough” - SF9
SF9 are a group to look out for in my opinion. They really have their own sound and I can appreciate that. I have all of their albums in my playlist. I listen to this one frequently.
March
“Tuxedo” - Ravi
If you want to be happy. Listen to this song. It just puts a smile on my face. I genuinely like all of Ravi’s albums and think he is really promising as a musician.
“Thrilla Killa” - VAV
Still kinda sad Jacob isn’t in this one because wow. But VAV are underrated kings of the year. Thrilla Killa is such a fun song. I really have been enjoying VAV’s releases.
“Miroh”- Stray Kids
I will be jamming to Miroh until the day i die. I will be doing the Haka part of the choreo to this dance, until the day I die.
“Vibe” - 1Team
This might possibly one of my favorite debuts of all time. The song is so chill and mature yet still fun and I feel like you got to hear every member’s strengths and I adore it to bits and pieces.
April
“Doves” - Gree
(Couldn’t find a gif for the mv)
I really fell in love with this song after stumbling on it accidentally. The song is really different and I really really like it.
“Tu Eres” - Newkidd
It makes me so happy to see Hansol find his place somewhere. After he left SM and the SMrookies, he joined The Unit and I was just kind of like when is he going to find his place, is he going to go solo? I’m just happy he found his place. All around this is a solid debut.
“Bloom Bloom” - The Boyz
I have had a hard time getting into the The Boyz, I still don’t know any names or anything but this is the first song that really peaked my interest. I really love songs like this. It’s so fun and fresh to listen to and it puts me in a good mood.
“Bet Bet” - Nu’est
Nu’est is really coming for me. I love every release they have brought out over the years. They are just so good. Baekho’s vocals are god tier and I adore this song. The album is amazing as well.
May
“Ah Yeah” - Winner
Winner have been so refreshing and just lovely lately. Their recent comebacks have really made me adore them even more. “Ah Yeah” is a song I have been listening to a lot lately and it just makes me really happy.
“Undercover” - A.C.E
We all know how I feel about A.C.E. This song is in my top 10 this year, maybe even top 5. A.C.E have so much talent and the video and the styling are amazing. But like the rap is God tier.
“Highway to Heaven” - NCT 127
I chose this song over “Superhuman” because it’s superior to me. Highway to Heaven makes me feel like a college student, going on a spring break roadtrip with my friends. Also in my top 10 this year.
“Twilight” - Oneus
I didn’t put their debut in this, even though it was amazing because Twilight is superior. I love this concept, this song and these boys. Oneus are proving themselves to be monster rookies and I am here for it. “Now” is a really good b-side.
June
“Wave” & “Illusion” - Ateez
It’s not surprise that Ateez makes the list again. This album was the one I bopped too all summer and I will never not “HAKUNA MATATA YAAAA”
“RPM” - SF9
I LOVE SF9. Look RPM is superior in everyway and form. The choreo, the styling, the song, the mv, JUST EVERYTHING. I was so shook when this song came out omg.
“Side Effects” - Stray Kids
Boy my head hurts. I love Stray Kids, I love their songs. This song totally caught me off guard and as much as I prefer it when Stray Kids isn’t as angry, this song is amazing and no one can change my mind.
“Questions” - Zelo
I missed my baby. It’s nice to hear his voice again. I love this track it’s really nice and summery. Looking forward to more things by my baby.
July
“Rolling Rolling” - 1team
1Team are rookies I didn’t know what to expect from. But their songs are so chill omg. I love every single one of them and like I just feel hanging out at the beach when i listen to them.
“Time of our life” - Day6
Day6. I love this song. They had so much fun with it and it’s just so good omg. Day6 for the win. K-Bands for the win.
“Sunset” - KNK
Oh lord. KNK came for my throat. I want more KNK in 2020 because I need it. This song reminds me of a fashion show.
“Give me more (ft. De La Ghetto, Play n Skillz)” - VAV
Fun summer songs always win for me. Also VAV always win for me. I really like the dance and just the vibe of the song. It is kinda generic but I still really like it and listen to it alot.
“Boom” NCT Dream
Boy these boys have grown up so much. It warms my heart and makes me sad at the same time. I still listen to this daily.
“Face” - Woosung/Sammy
I love this song so much. It’s so refreshing and nice to listen to. Sammy’s voice is like butter.
August
“Come back home” - Target
This song surprised me. I generally don’t go into groups I don’t know with high hopes, but I really like this song and the choreography.
“Final Kiss” - IZ
This is a band I have been getting into too. Final Kiss is a great way to end the summer and it’s a really nice refreshing and fun. The drummer really caught my eye, because he’s hella cute and the main vocalist is so talented.
September
“Hit” and “Fear” - Seventeen
Fear made me nearly crap myself at the beginning of the song. It caught me so off guard but in the best way. Hit is just such a fun song and a hype song. I yell along to it in the shower almost every time.
“Lit” - Oneus
I LOVE THIS SONG SO MUCH. How they made such a fun song that I willbe listening to 10 years later is besides me. Oneus really out proving themselves. Another one for in my top 10.
“Human” and “Daredevil” - Zico
I have mentioned in the past how much I love Zico and his music and this was the return I wanted. The Thinking album is just amazing. Zico manages to put every emotion there is into an album.
October (A lot of great releases here)
“Jopping” - SuperM
I will be jopping to the end of time. Look a lot of people hate the thought of SuperM and stuff. But like, to me SuperM is just alot of amazing in one group and the songs are really cool. So yeah and they created their own verb.
“Why” - ONF
(not the right mv but yeah)
This song really put ONF on the map for me. It’s so different and nice. I love it. The mv is also incredibly and the vocals are too.
“Wonderland” - Ateez
Again, no surprise. This song is still on repeat for me. I love it, I want to tattoo it on my forehead. i want Yunho to “Kajaaaa” all over me. I love it, love it, love it. Can’t wait to see them live in 2020. Also in my top 10 this year.
“Good Bam” - N.Flying
A chill feel good song that I adore. Me and my friend talk alot on voice chat on discord and at the end of the night we say ‘Good Bam’ because of this song. It’s just so fun.
“Runaway” - TXT
I am not the biggest TXT stan, I like some songs and that’s about it but, Run away is an amazing song. The mv is lovely, the song is great and I really like the choreography.
“Poison” - VAV
VAV came for my throat and they didn’t have to. Also in my top 10 this year.
“Sweet Chaos” - Day6
I listen to this and i want to scream along. We got a lot this comeback, Young K’s forehead, a full album and all of Day6 in suits. Another one for in my top 10.
“So So” - Winner
SoSo came out after I broke up with my boyfriend and let me tell you, perfect timing. This mv is one of the best I have seen ever and the song is amazing. Winner really stepped up their game this year. Another top 10.
“Follow” - Monsta X
This will be a Monsta X era I will cherish forever. Enough said.
“Savage” - A.C.E
We all know my A.C.E tangent I went on and I will not apologize. Another one for the top 10. No one does it like A.C.E. MORE A.C.E IN 2020. Also Wow’s rap in this song needs to be 10 verses longer, for my health.
November
“Calling my name” - GOT7
Got7′s best title track yet? IDK but to me it is. I also love all the b-sides and I feel like everyone got to show off their strengths.
“Make this” - 1Team
The beat drop in this song is something I haven’t quite heard before. I really like it and the video reminds of like a 90′s video game which is pretty cool. 1Team really are my favorite group out of boygroups who debuted this year.
“Balloon” - Zico
Zico man, I love this video and song so much. It encapsulates alot of my own emotions and it’s beautiful.
“Blue Flame” - Astro
This song had me so shook. I have really been getting into Astro and this is my first comeback with them and I am not at all disappointed. Astro man...
december
“Fuego” - U Kwon
I love this song so much. I want people to cover dance it, the choreography is so fun and I’d do it myself but I can’t dance. I love the song and it was like the last thing I expected in December and it is in my top 10.
“Levanter” Stray Kids
a bittersweet comeback. But still beautiful, I’m proud of how far they have come and Stray Kids have never disappointed me. The choreo is lovely and Seungmin’s vocals are beautiful.
#knk#ikon#ateez#taemin#sf9#ravi#vav#stray kids#1team#gree#newkidd#the boyz#nu'est#winner#a.c.e#oneus#nct 127#zelo#day6#nct dream#target#iz#seventeen#superm#got7#woosung
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Road to Kingdom Episode 4 Thoughts
The third challenge was for each group to pick one of their own songs and perform it. I really wish RTK stuck with the “king” theme, but I guess there are only so many challenges they can create revolving that topic.
DISCLAIMER: I am a lot harsher in this review than any of my other posts. Please know that I do not hate any of the 7 groups and I truly wish the best for all of them. This is just an analysis of the most recent performances.
Anyways onto my rankings!
Enjoyment ranking:
Pentagon (Wow! For once it’s not TBZ haha)
Verivery
The Boyz
Oneus
ONF
TOO
Golden Child
Objective Ranking:
Verivery
The Boyz
Pentagon
ONF
Oneus
Golden Child
TOO
Prediction rankings:
Pentagon
The Boyz
Verivery
ONF
Oneus
TOO
Golden Child
Put a prediction ranking bc the rankings haven’t been announced yet so we will see tomorrow!
For the first time in forever, TBZ is not first in my book. Shocker I know. That’s not to say that I didn’t like their performance or concept but rather the other groups (PTG and Verivery) did better in my eyes. Let’s talk about TBZ’s Reveal (Catching Fire) perf. I’ll call it RCF for short. TBZ was the only group to continue a story from the second challenge. This gains major points in my book as I love plot driven performances. Anything with a story or clear objective gains brownie points because it’s what makes performances an art. You can dance to a song but if there’s no emotion it stays as a sport rather than a form of artistic expression. TBZ have shown their artistry fully through RTK, something they haven’t really been able to do before. I’m amazed at how they are able to control shock factor so well. I was worried the stunts of Danger would outshine whatever they had to show in RCF but they proved me wrong. There were less stunts this time but they focused on a much larger picture (pun intended). They added backup dancers and allowed the camera to take wider shots to show their formations. I just felt like they lacked a spark this time. If you can’t already tell, I prefer their Danger performance much more. A large part of this is due to the arrangement of Danger. The RCF arrangement was interesting and refreshing but there wasn’t anything really new. Maybe I feel this way because I’ve listened to Reveal too many times who knows. Negatives aside, I have to say I really liked the choreography changes. The part where Haknyeon is center really blew my mind.
But here’s why I liked Verivery and Pentagon’s performance more: emotion. Pentagon’s is obvious, they used this stage to send off someone they really love. You can really see that the members love Jinho and that they have a deep bond. Pentagon was also the only group to mix two of their songs together, one being a title track and one being a side track (note: PTG and Verivery are the only groups who picked side b’s for their song). Pentagon’s arrangement was impeccable. For me, the new Shine sounded like a Jpop song (mostly because of the rock vibes; if you listen to Jpop you know what I mean), while still retaining the bright theme of Shine. A lot of people might say the performance was too emotional and not professional, but out of all 7 performances, Pentagon’s was the most meaningful and was delivered the best. The message and how they played with the stage was stunning and their little additions and references to other popular Kpop songs makes it so you will notice something new every time you rewatch it. Please watch this video where Hongseok goes into detail about the little easter eggs and the whole purpose behind their performance. I have so much respect for Pentagon and I could write so much more about this performance but I must talk about the other 5 haha (if you want to hear more feel free to ask!)
Verivery. VERIVERY. God DAMN did they really come back and hit hard. They definitely had the clearest and most well thought out performance of all. What differentiates them from TBZ’s story like performance is that TBZ had too much going on in my opinion. They tried to tell us a long story with not enough time. This is why so many fans have vastly different interpretations of their performance. While this can often be a good thing, I think you have to find a balance when doing a storytelling performance. Verivery cleanly executes their narrative of a nightmare and takes the cliche of “it was all a dream” to the max by going “SIKE” at the end. Their choreography was so well planned out and they were honestly very minimalistic about their stage, just like TBZ’s Danger stage. The shock factor is just right (my favorite part being when the backup dancers have the smoke come out of their mouth). Not only that but Photo is a SIDE TRACK. I cannot stress enough how brave of them that is. I legitimately thought it was a title track until I looked at their discography. They arranged their side b to sound like a title track, and not only that, they changed the overall feel of the song as well. If you listen to the original Photo, it sounds more like a bad boy song, but their RTK version is very much so horror/rock themed. I can’t STRESS how good this performance is. Especially because it’s such a contrast from their last performance. Photo is now in my spotify playlist and I have no regrets.
Now onto the last 4 performances. I hate to break it to you all but... I didn’t really like any of them. None of them made me think “wow I could rewatch this so many times.” Lets start with Oneus. LIT is my favorite Oneus song so I highly anticipated this performance. If you didn’t know Oneus before and only watch this stage you might think its a very good stage with a strong traditional theme. I totally agree, the traditional theme is unique to Oneus and I loved the instrumental changes they made so the song would cater more to their theme. The biggest issue I had with this stage was that It literally is just like their music video. If you have seen the LIT mv you will know what I mean. The dragon dance, traditional clothing, theme, sound, everything was too similar. The stage was grand but it just felt like a live version of their MV.
I know a lot of people liked ONF’s performance. Let me just say first that they killed it and YooA was *chefs kiss* The biggest issue I had with this stage was its message and theme. They seemed to have a conductor/medieval theme but also the masks?? Like what? It felt so out of place and random. I felt like a lot of their stage choices had little to no purpose. I honestly still don’t understand why YooA was there. The duet dance was nice but why? It seemed like they were trying to tell a story but it just wasn’t clear to me. It looked nice and everything but that was about it. In no way am I saying the performance was bad, it’s just there’s nothing that makes me want to go back and watch again. I think the fact that there was a plot but no plot at the same time really bothered me and that’s why I didn’t like it as much.
TOO has grown a lot since episode one. They are truly experimenting with the stage and I’m very happy to see that. I have the same issue with TOO as I did with ONF. There was a clear theme of “dark vs light” or “evil vs good” but why? What was the point? The theme may have seemed obvious but was it really? Were they trying to convey good vs bad, angel vs devil, justice vs injustice? I couldn’t tell throughout the entire performance. It’s okay to take cliche themes but with a show like RTK, there needs to be something more. I also hate to be harsh but some of their execution just wasn’t as clean. This doesn’t only apply to Chan (I think that’s his name), but the whole performance in general. The most obvious instance is the head twist part. But I applaud Chan for performing with 100% even after his mistake (which, by the way, he made look very natural. I was very sad when he kept beating himself up over the mistake 😞 you did great bb I hope you know that). Even if their age and lack of experience is shown in their performances, I must say they are really stepping out of their comfort zone and learning at a rapid pace. I have high hopes for them.
Now onto the last group. Golden Child. I was very impressed with GolChas first two performances but this one was a disappointment. I appreciate the use of strings and their classical arrangement (as I said in my previous episode thoughts post) but this performance was, well, dull to say the least. The only “shock factor” was the violin solo (which was very good btw), but I think it was too late into the performance. There wasn’t much that made me interested in the performance up to that point. I don’t know. There really just isn’t much for me to talk about because they didn’t really do much.(God that sounds so harsh;; I’m sorry 😭😭) I really think their second performance was highly underrated but all in all this third one was not it.
As you can see my critiques for this set of performances are, well, a lot harsher. I think it’s because the bar was raised so much higher after the first three episodes. Overall, if I had seen any of these performances outside of the RTK context I probably would have been a lot more impressed and shocked. I wish the best for all the groups and no matter who gets eliminated tomorrow I want all the groups to know that they all deserve a spot in the Kingdom. Mnet is just trash.
#yikes another lengthy one#road to kingdom#sdjfhdfjh god i swear im gonna get hate for this post fuck#but i like what i like and i said what i said#take this with a grain of salt please#anyways that took way too long#if you're going to take anything away from this post#its the hongseok video i linked#please watch that#my heart breaks so much for pentagon#they truly deserve to win imo
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🌿 Mina’s vlive
🗓 August 23, 2020
🖋 676 words
Mina starts off her vlive by cutely waving at the camera, smiling, and explains she’ll start talking and answering to comments when more people have joined the livestream
while waiting, she softly hums to herself - fans quickly notice that she’s actually humming SF9‘s Into the Night under her breath -, after a few minutes, she finally introduces herself, saying she wanted to do a vlive to catch up with her Suns as she‘s been so busy lately
she begins reading through some comments, smiling to herself and greeting fans from all over the world who are sending in their love
she says she feels really good and refreshed today as she’s had the day off and was able to sleep in and relax for a bit - she also says she spent most of her day rehearsing lines and writing some lyrics
some fans ask about her drama - Mina smiles happily and explains how thankful she is for this opportunity, and that she‘s actually feeling a bit nervous, hoping that people will enjoy her character and her acting
she explains that her and Nam Joo Hyuk have grown quite close already and often hang out after a long day of filming, getting something to eat and sometimes watching a movie together
she says she misses seeing her members though, and that everyone is quite busy preparing a new album - besides their regular training schedule, Skitz is rarely at home, basically living in her studio, Ari and Luna are often working on new choreographies, AJ is busy with her MC schedule, Yueliang is working on improving her vocal skills even more (when she’s not reading for once), Rin is studying a lot of fashion these days and Hannah is doing very well with her studies
Mina just shakes her head and crosses both arms, staring sternly into the camera, when someone asks to give some spoilers for the next comeback - she then laughs and winks: “I won’t spoil anything, or else our manager will be mad at me!”
she suddenly holds up a book, and shows the title to the camera - the Princess saves herself in this one. She explains that it’s a book full of poems and that most of them really resonated with her and almost made her cry when she read them
music wise, Mina says she hopes everyone is enjoying her weekly playlists and explains she‘s been really into The Weeknd lately, and that she also still listens religiously to the entire WOODZ‘ Equal album - she then sings a few lines of his songs Love me Harder as well as Memories, giggling when she messes up a bit, mumbling to herself that she should do a real cover soon
she also plays Sunmi‘s Borderline (she rambles for a few second about how talented Sunmi is), the English version of TWICE‘s More & More („Nayeon sunbaenim FIGHTING!“), and finally ONF’s Sukhumvit Swimming, saying she really loves the song and thinks the members looked very cute in the music video
she jokingly says it wouldn’t be her if she didn’t also play some SF9 - she then plays My Story, My Song and softly sings along to it
she also explains she recently watched the indie movie The Girl from the Song together with Luna, and really loved it, saying she really wants to go to the Burning Man festival now, as that’s where the movie was set
when asked about when she last saw Youngbin, she begins to pout and sighs, saying it’s already been a few weeks now as they‘ve both been so busy, but that she hopes they‘ll soon be able to catch up with each other
lastly, she promises to upload a new cover soon, and that she hopes her Suns will continue to always cheer her on
she ends her vlive by making different kinds of hearts at the camera, and finally sends her Suns a flying kiss
for a few seconds, she‘s confused about how to end the vlive, making herself laugh at her own clumsiness, until she finally manages to end it
#mina's vlives#solar mina#solar#we are solar#solar au#oc girl group#girl group au#kpop au#minas.vlives
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I knooooow I don't wanna bald Kai for the record, but... omfg, ONF also Jinjin from Astro and one guy from Victon has been going viral for their dances lmao. Sehun and Kai soon. You're right Chen has committed the biggest crime an idol could commit... lives like a regular person 😭 oh no
Right, if I were there with them I would be like MINHO FIGHT BACK YOU CAN TAKE HIM DOWN IN A SECOND, but we all know he wouldn't do that to Key 💔 I can't wait for Taemin and Kkoongie lives to be back
Maybe we can have new Triple H because Hyuna and Hyojong has been hanging out with Holland, all that while poor Hui is imprisoned 😭 I think Krystal, she would be dark academia or Wuthering Heights type of girl
Look at all the 🍤 I haven't tried all of them, some only look shrimpy or have shrimpy texture, but some taste like sea aidyjsshsishsjsbajd. I like vegan spam, I used it for kimchi fried rice and breakfast dishes. Lots of egg + spam recipes, so I'm here with my fake eggs and fake spam veganising everything 💓 I checked out Tofu Village and it looks almost identical to one Korean restaurant I have here! Meat eating scenarios?! Bestie what why 😭 I make non-vegans eat fake meat without them knowing sometimes. Like that Impossible burgers, no one ever notices lol. So there's Beyond Meat and Impossible the two most famous vegan patties, I personally prefer BM, but Impossible is really impressive too. I don't go to non-vegan fast food restaurants anymore, but I know many offer Beyond burgers
Yeah that's right I'll start sending you anon hate soon 🤺
So a nice looking English guy huh...
How can I go out with you if you're about to break my heart with your writing?! "You long to be loved" 🙈
I'm not really sold on Antifragile, but maybe one day I'll have a change of heart, I really don't like when they rap 😭 and the chorus is just nor it for me... I only heard NJ's songs maybe twice? And saw them perform while I waited for Guerrilla, their music isn't exactly for me and the whole sexual scandal around them... but they definitely have their own vibe! I'm kinda sad cause some of the rookie groups I rooted for disbanded or went through some changes :/ btw I saw Pixy recently, it was bittersweet, but they were very cute!
2016 kpop wow really I can't believe we got so much goodness that year. Idk why I can't access the quiz :/ gonna try on my laptop later
Ufffff no bald Hwa in sight, I cheer!!! I was afraid something might have happened to his hair.
MODEL SEONWGAHAHSHAYSTATAAAAAAAA
Atinys in Seoul are better than me, if I saw Seonghwa during the soundcheck I would simply steal him away, grab him by the hwaist and took off 🏃♀️
Me for the next two months once again
KMS-ing I'M AFRAID uhm okkk???
Nah this is sick this is not normal
Sanhwa slutty men 😭😭😭😭
Hold onnnnnn - DV 💖
hi helloo!
I knooooow I don't wanna bald Kai for the record, but... omfg, ONF also Jinjin from Astro and one guy from Victon has been going viral for their dances lmao. Sehun and Kai soon. You're right Chen has committed the biggest crime an idol could commit... lives like a regular person 😭 oh no
BUT I KINDA DO WANNA SEE A BALD KAI,,, bestie better rock it,, HJFKDJBC YEAH THEM 😭😭😭😭😭 THEYRE REALLY OUT THEIR LIVING THE BEST LIFE DOING RANDOM DANCES ANYWHERE CATCH ME DEACTIVATING WHEN SEHUN GOES <3333 no srs how dumb do u have to be upset that someone got married and had kids, like every other person out there??? god for him, singlehandedly carrying sk's future vocalist generation
Right, if I were there with them I would be like MINHO FIGHT BACK YOU CAN TAKE HIM DOWN IN A SECOND, but we all know he wouldn't do that to Key 💔 I can't wait for Taemin and Kkoongie lives to be back
NO SERIOUSLY HE COULD TAKE THEM DOWN SO EASILY,, for a while when i saw minho in the military i was like what if this guy ends up liking it so much that he enlists again 😭😭😭 STOPPPP KKONGIE IS SO FUCKING CUTE, THE BEST LOOKING AND THE CUTEST PET OUT ALL KPOP IDOLS IDC IDC I WORSHIP KKONGIE
Maybe we can have new Triple H because Hyuna and Hyojong has been hanging out with Holland, all that while poor Hui is imprisoned 😭 I think Krystal, she would be dark academia or Wuthering Heights type of girl
with holland ????? 👀 👀 smelling a collab bc ayo that be fire,, NAURRRR HUI IMPRISONMENT ERA 😭😭😭 omg she'd be like wednesday adams, those lana del rey vibes but edgier omg ur so right !!!!!!
Look at all the 🍤 I haven't tried all of them, some only look shrimpy or have shrimpy texture, but some taste like sea aidyjsshsishsjsbajd. I like vegan spam, I used it for kimchi fried rice and breakfast dishes. Lots of egg + spam recipes, so I'm here with my fake eggs and fake spam veganising everything 💓 I checked out Tofu Village and it looks almost identical to one Korean restaurant I have here! Meat eating scenarios?! Bestie what why 😭 I make non-vegans eat fake meat without them knowing sometimes. Like that Impossible burgers, no one ever notices lol. So there's Beyond Meat and Impossible the two most famous vegan patties, I personally prefer BM, but Impossible is really impressive too. I don't go to non-vegan fast food restaurants anymore, but I know many offer Beyond burgers
omg??????? ngl i was like iS THAT PLAYDOH hfbjkdjf that does look very interesting in it's shape too 😭😭😭 hOLDON THERES FAKE EGGS???? ARE THEY GOOD??? omg no way??? then the food must be insane good, first k restaurant I've seen that is a vegetarians drEAM,,, NO YEAH MEAT EATING SCENARIOS 😭😭😭 IT DIDNT TASTE LIKE ANYTHING BUT I WAS HORRIFIED FJSDHFJ oHHHHHHH TWO TYPES BET,, personally yeah BM truly tastes so good, like ppl who eat meat should try it bc it's tbh maybe even better than meat <3
Yeah that's right I'll start sending you anon hate soon 🤺
i cANNOT WAIT HEH
So a nice looking English guy huh...
uhuh and studies bpk (biomed) but truly he's very handsome, 100% white boy model material
How can I go out with you if you're about to break my heart with your writing?! "You long to be loved" 🙈
NO BESTIE SAME BFJDFHHKF THE LONG OT BE LOVED SHOWS IN MY FICS SO BAD ITS EMBARRASSING FNDSFM
I'm not really sold on Antifragile, but maybe one day I'll have a change of heart, I really don't like when they rap 😭 and the chorus is just nor it for me... I only heard NJ's songs maybe twice? And saw them perform while I waited for Guerrilla, their music isn't exactly for me and the whole sexual scandal around them... but they definitely have their own vibe! I'm kinda sad cause some of the rookie groups I rooted for disbanded or went through some changes :/ btw I saw Pixy recently, it was bittersweet, but they were very cute!
no yeah the rap i agree 😭😭😭 hybe's rap declined after bts ngl,,, OH YEAHH THE SCANDAL DEF DID PUT ME OFF TOO BUT U WILL CATCH ME 3AM HAVING MY CONCERT TO IT,, im still vv confused on the pixy matter, why did the two leave? they all seemed really promising!
unfort with the tragedy in itaewon, smtown Halloween is cancelled and as well as everything, hoping there's no concerts bc that'd be quite unpleasant but at the same time difficult for the contracts between companies on d-day’s
2016 kpop wow really I can't believe we got so much goodness that year. Idk why I can't access the quiz :/ gonna try on my laptop later
2016 and 2018 kpop truly the years of peak music that was actually music ifynkim,, the music quality and the hunger to perform was at it's best missing those days 😭😭😭
Ufffff no bald Hwa in sight, I cheer!!! I was afraid something might have happened to his hair. /// MODEL SEONWGAHAHSHAYSTATAAAAAAAA
SMN HWA IS BACK HE IS CRAZY. CRAZY. saw that and let out the biggest scream at 2am,,, ?????? i thought he was about to unbutton, the concert went from cult to strip show
SEONGHWA'S MERCEDES
what the hell
this one is peak private vampire core
Atinys in Seoul are better than me, if I saw Seonghwa during the soundcheck I would simply steal him away, grab him by the hwaist and took off 🏃♀️
DHFJHDKSCJCBJHF NO SERIOUSLY HOW DID THEY LOOK HIM IN THE EYE WHILE HE THRUSTED AND NOT STOLE THAT MAN
Me for the next two months once again
i felt this bc all my friends are going and i- 😭😭😭 im good, holding on 😭😭😭
KMS-ing I'M AFRAID uhm okkk??? /// Nah this is sick this is not normal
THIS I S NOT NORMAL AND IM NOT COMPLAINING BUT. IM DEF SCREAMINGON TOP OF MY LUNGS
Sanhwa slutty men 😭😭😭😭 Hold onnnnnn - DV 💖
BESTIE HFBKF HFBF I D LIKE TO SAY I PREDICTED DAZZLING LIGHT ON THE SETLIST I WILL PROVIDE U PROOF
PLS REFER TO THE TIME,, WHEN I TELL U I SCREAMED BEKFDJEBH
2/2 Hello Baeksy it's me DV again, I have a few more things to say before I go away for the weekend, SO:
I said I'd grab soundcheck Hwa and run away well I'M DRAGGING THIS ONE BACK TO HELL WHERE HE BELONGS
TAKE HIM WHERE HE BELONGS,, but these outfits are def on of the best ones they've had
They sang My Way and I wasn't there :///// Ah so pretty
THE TRANSITION INTO ILLUSION????????
Uhhhhhhh is this A STRIP CLUB
THIS TURNED INTO THE MAGIC MIKE REAL FAST WHAT THEHELL ATEEZ
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 //// Lads I'm not feeling very alive right now. I wanna cry and die thanks
NOT TWITTER MARKING IT AS SENSITIVE POST PLS DBFJASGFKJ that lad was the most birtish thing i ever heard from u
Why did they perform the remix of Fireworks noooo, if I never hear actual Fireworks live I'm gonna eat KQ's walls!!! /// 🧎🏼♀️🧎🏼♀️🧎🏼♀️🧎🏼♀️
those who have heard their entire discography in concerts, imso jealous right now
What's the point of living if I haven't perceived Wonderland Hwa with his sword with my own two tired eyes 😞 and no DEJA VU THIS IS CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR, no The Leaders... ☠ and no ES, Aurora or Fever, but Celebrate and Illusion made it... I see. No PK or Treasure or TMH. At least Mist, My Way, Dazzling Light, Horizon are there /// Cursing everyone who attended the previous tour as well, they're witnessing everything 💔 //// They totally ditched ZFP1 (INCEPTION!?!?!?) and ZFP3 (except for Rocky) I'm so devastated 😭😭😭😭
THIS IS LITERALLY NOT FAIR FHLEKFABJH;IM GONNA BE SO DRAMATIC ABOUT THIS CJSHDCJDH NO PK??? TREASURE??? 😭😭😭 I WAS HOPING INCEPTION WOULD BE THERE but answer,, their setlist is WILD WILD WILDD
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Vernon is one of my biases in Seventeen too! Him and Dino. In general, I tend to bias people who really seem to do their own thing and be comfortable just existing as themselves without worrying too much about how others perceive them. Of course, being an idol means being concerned with your reputation, but some people just seem so comfortable with themselves despite the pressures. Vernon has that quiet self-assuredness, and is happy to share his unique perspectives even if he comes off as "weird" or "spacey," and Dino is really infectiously confident without ever coming across as arrogant. He knows exactly what he's capable of, and he isn't afraid to show it.
In Pentagon, it's the same pattern. Yuto is a total sweetheart, but he also has zero problems making his desires and boundaries clear, and he's happy to share his thoughts. Kino is a very sensitive and artistic person and he owns it. He's never ashamed of his strong emotions, and he loves sharing his artistic endeavors, be they music for the group, his personal SoundCloud projects, or more recently, paintings. And Wooseok. I don't know how to describe him exactly but he really just seems to exist comfortably. He can be silly or serious, sometimes moody, he openly loves being babied, and he just. Seems to be at home where he is.
I would go on in more detail, and get into my Oneus biases, but it's getting late here, my laptop is running low on battery, and I'm a slow typer, so I'll call it here for now. Do you have patterns you've noticed in your biases? - multi anon
Vernon really does have that natural quality about him. I think most of seventeen does too actually. Like there are some kpop groups where you can just tell that maybe the persona you see is not who they really are, but seventeen just feels like they don't hide themselves. I don't know how to really explain it but they all just have that natural quality to them. I've always admired Vernon and how passionate he is about music. I also love how much he cares for his family and other members but he does it in such a subtle way sometimes. But you just KNOW he loves those he cares about to no end.
I haven't really noticed any patterns in my biases personality wise, but for years I swore the only people I would end up biasing were rappers. Like Kwangmin is a rapper, Vernon is a rapper, Yeonjun is a rapper, Yoshi is a rapper. Like for some reason I just kept biasing the rappers and it wasn't even intentional. Maybe there's something I find comfortable about rappers. I would say most of them are kinda calm but Vernon is really the only one. Kwangmin is super high energy and when Boyfriend were promoting he was known to have 4D personality. Which I guess Vernon was described to have one too in Seventeen's early days. Yeonjun is just a big flirt. I love his confidence in himself and his abilities. Its something I wish I'd have more of in myself so I really admire that about him. Yoshi is kinda hard to describe, like Yoshi is just Yoshi. I was trying to come up with words but like I can't. He's very much his own person, kinda quiet but also kinda loud, super artistic.
The first time I biased someone that wasn't a rapper was (Sam Kim) when I started getting into Verivery and ONF. I've very much of the proponent that your bias just kinda finds you and calls out to you. I like to watch the mvs for groups I'm trying to get into and just see who catches my eye because that person usually ends up becoming my bias. With Verivery my eye was always drawn to Gyehyeon, even from before I stanned them, and I don't really know how to describe his personality. I'm still trying to learn verivery's personalities. I have the names down but the personalities aren't there yet. I just really liked his visuals and I found his voice to be super comforting. Minchan (bias wrecker) I'm drawn to also because of his visuals and voice, but I do know that he does a lot of creative things for the group like filming and taking photos and I relate to that a lot so I guess that why I'm drawn to him. With ONF it was one moment, I didn't even know the group all that well and I just knew that whoever that person was they were going to be my bias. I was watching Road to Kingdom and the groups were introducing themselves and ONF were doing their introduction and singing their song and E.Tion just continued singing as the group stopped and he just like had me. In that moment I knew that was the member I was claiming. His personality is so all over the place but in a good way and I love that about him.
Okay that was a lot, I'll leave treasure's explanations for next time lol
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the best b-sides of march and april
MARCH
Take Me Home, The Leaders, ATEEZ
Still holding onto the holie that Take Me Home gets a music video. Doubtful, since Kingdom has begun already. Also, my taste is definitely in question if The Leaders is on this list but I like it so there.
UNO, Starvoy, GHOST9
Is it time for me to learn who's who in GHOST9?
All For Love, Good Time, WayV
Was going to put Action Figure in this list instead of All For Love the first time I listened to the mini. I apologize for my bad thoughts and taste. I will reflect properly and I will show you a better side of me next time.
KKILI KKILI, Candy, G-reyish
The album isn't really an album, more a compilation of their previous singles. It's a good opportunity to discover G-reyish though, now you have no excuse.
Higher, Mirae
Didn't think much of their debut on first listen but this track has convinced me to listen to the whole mini.
Celebrity, My Sea, Ah puh, Epilogue, IU
Did a review of the album so go read that (when I remember to upload it).
Reach Out Your Hands, DRIPPIN
Everytime I have to type out the name of this group I cringe. Woolim I'm sure you guys can do better? Coming to the song, I didn't think much of the title track for Drippin's recent comeback but TheBiasList recommended this so I listened to it and actually liked it. It's good, and maybe since I liked their previous b-sides I might check out the rest of this mini.
Teddy Bear, Sejeong
Still Here, ATEEZ
I'm super grateful for this song from ATEEZ's Japanese album that takes us back to the sounds of the Treasure era.
REBOUND, TOUCHE, WOODZ
Don't light my fire, Dreamcatcher
Yummy, Uni, Weeekly
APRIL
New Me, Last Dance, Super Moon, WJSN
INTRO, 3YE
Love Fool, SO BAD (TAK remix), STAYC
Love Counseling, Yoon Jisung
All Good, ASTRO
Area, Days & Years, SHINee
DON'T WANNA GO, BLACK, DOOM DOOM, ROCKET ROCKET, NU'EST
My Genesis (Ubermensch), ONF
On the first listen I thought this was such a jam but now it feels like the song is missing something. I still like it though but I prefer Ugly Dance.
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Hey! I hope I don't bother you with my question 🙈 I just recently started watching mixnine (and have no experience with survival shows) and I was wondering how it is possible for groups to enter without the risk of disbanding. The goal of the show is to create new idols, so what if some members are chosen and others are not? I'm mainly talking about Seven O' Clock and Knk Thank you so much!! 💞
hello! you’re not bothering me at all, don’t worry! right now i’m more knowledgeable on how the unit works than mix nine, but i’m aware that the group formed through mix nine will only promote for around 7 months so it’s not permanent! i’m not sure whether or not their contract allows them to promote in both the final group and their original group at the same time, but they will return to their respective groups (if they have one) for sure. i would like to point out that the goal of the show isn’t necessarily to create new idols, but rather simply to show off unknown talent to the public.
in regards to the risk, all of the participants have something at stake and going on the show could ultimately determine their entire future. there is a possibility that the show may make staying together as a group difficult, but there is also a possibility that any amount of success that they achieve on the show will follow them back to their group. for example, in produce 101, dia, wjsn, hotshot, and nu’est definitely benefited a lot from having members in ioi and wanna one, even though only one member in each group made it in the final lineup. simply having one member be known and recognized made a big difference in how successful these groups were as a whole and i guess the participants in mix nine thought the opportunity to gain recognition outweighed the risk of disbandment.
this isn’t a good explanation but if you want to consider seven o’clock and knk specifically, i personally think they’ll be okay and won’t disband any time soon! both are fairly new groups and still have a lot of time and potential to gain momentum, especially since knk is one of the more popular rookies these days and soc is gaining attention through the show. if hangyeom makes it into the final group and sangwon doesn’t, sangwon will simply return to soc and promote with them as a group of 5 until the 7 months are up and hangyeom can come back. by that time, the promotions as ot5 and hangyeom’s promotions with the mix nine group should be enough to give them lots of attention and hype for a while, if that makes sense! same goes for knk and all the other existing groups: being chosen for the final group will most likely not have a negative impact on the longevity of the group.
since a lot of the groups who are participating are rookies or haven’t even debuted yet (i.e. onf, loona, dreamcatcher, knk, seven o’clock, etc), even if they don’t do well on the show i think they should be okay bc it’s expected and they still have time to be noticed. my main worry would be for groups who have been around for a while, like 24k or berry good. if older groups who have been struggling for years don’t find any success in this show (i.e. getting into the final group, gaining recognition, etc) then there is a possibility they will take it a sign that they should give up and disband. 24k has been around since 2012 and they recently expressed in an interview that if they don’t do well on this show, there is a high chance they will have to disband because they have no other choice. the situation between 24k and knk/soc is different in the sense that 24k has been around for much longer and are past gone the point where they can be properly recognized in korea, therefore the stakes are higher. with the success of one or two members, it would mean everything to them.
i’m so sorry for making this so long, i started rambling and just didn’t know how to stop bc i was afraid i wasn’t being clear or made any sense ;; please remember that this is based on what i have seen with pd101 (both seasons) and the unit so it’s only one perspective! i’m sure many people have other points to make as well so if you’re reading this and want to add on, feel free to do so in the replies! i hope this is somewhat helpful! ;;
#anon#ask#also for reference i'm more of a fan of the unit than mix nine and have been less updated with the most recent episodes but i'll catch up!#there's really only one case where i think an individual's success had a negative impact on their group that's kim sanggyun from topp dogg#yes i know there's a lot of fucked up things that topp dogg had to go through and that there are many factors in the way they're managed#but sanggyun's success in pd101 and debuting in jbj kind of set him apart from the rest of the group and that was.... kind of not so good#but i can't really say anything else so that will be all for now!
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