#queer 2024 spoilers

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First look at Daniel Craig and Drew Starkey in Luca Guadagnino's Queer (2024) for anon 💕

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I could make a serious Wicked review and talk about the vocals and the choreography and the costumes and the sets, which are all great, but this is tumblr, and I know that all of these aspects will not matter nearly as much as me reviewing the movie by how much gay subtext they put into it, so that's exactly what I'm gonna do.

Elphaba and Glinda are either holding hands or have their arms linked for about 70% of this movie. Literally, after they officially become friends these girls are attached at the hip.

'What Is This Feeling?' remains about as gay as it usually is, but I will highlight that they lie awake at night thinking about each other which. I know what you are etc etc

The scene where they dance together is. I have no words. That was beautiful. Both actresses put so much emotion into the sequence. And there's a moment where Glinda puts her hand on Elphaba's face, almost like she's brushing away the tears there, and that shit made me cry as well.

'Popular' is insanely homosexual. There's a scene where they're laying down on the bed looking into each other's eyes, and Glinda shifts to basically be on top of Elphaba. My jaw was on the floor. Just lots of touching and Looks all throughout.

When they go to see the Wizard all that casual touching I mentioned previously is multiplied by tenfold, and there are several moments where Elphaba looks at Glinda for reassurance, which was very sweet.

'Defying Gravity' made me just as emotional as I knew it would. I do wish they had hugged but honestly with all the handholding and the staring into each other's eyes, and Glinda wrapping the cloak around Elphaba, they gave us plenty. Once again the acting caught me by surprise (specially from Ariana), both of them communicate so much with just looks.

Anyway my overall thoughts are, these bitches gay, good for them. They did not tone down the subtext at all (like I know some people were worried would happen), and while they didn't make anything explicit either (which I never expected them to*), I'm confident that both Cynthia and Ariana understood the assignment in regards to the kind of relationship Glinda and Elphaba have in canon, and that was enough for me.

*I will admit that a secret corner of my little lesbian heart hoped beyond hope that they would include the scene from the book where Elphaba canonically kisses Glinda (iirc it's supposed to be during Defying Gravity), but like, I always knew they wouldn't.

[drewsephrry]

babygirl

[drewsgirly]

BOOOOOMMM SHAKAAAAA LACKAAAAAAAAAA YESSSSS GOD YESSS

[franklyimissparis]

rtd i am in your walls this is so fucking gay

[whiteboyofthemonth828]

I haven’t seen anyone talk about it yet

[decladam]

Is there any kiss picture leak?

yes

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best promo for queer i've seen

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Gretchen Wieners is 100% Queer: An Analysis

Spoilers for the 2024 Movie!!!!

Analysis under cut!!!

Exhibit A: Her One-sided Crush on Regina

Her solo song (What's Wrong With Me) is very much just a love song. The lyrics are very much blaming herself for her just because she loves Regina too much to blame her. It's a song of unrequited love, and how she is fully aware she's being used. But she won't do anything because it's the Regina George.

If you're still unconvinced, here are the lyrics of Gretchen's song compared to Aaron's (Regina's ex boyfriend) song:

Gretchen:

Aaron:

As you can see, the lyrics are very similar. Aaron sticks to Regina because he actually likes her and wants to impress her. Guess what Gretchen also does...

Not only are these musical numbers back to back on the soundtrack, they are about the same person and their relationship with the singer. This could be pure coincidence but I do have other points to make besides the songs.

Such as this scene:

In the actual show, Gretchen is actually flattered by what Regina said. And she actually takes it to heart. The only reason why she told Regina about Cady's crush on Aaron was because she was slowly replacing her, and she got jealous.

Exhibit B: Jason Weems

Before we start, this is about their toxic relationship which I do not support and I'm only using for an example. And if you try to argue that they aren't toxic and are just a couple that has a lot of playful banter. The 2024 movie changes her love interest as she sees Jason as sleezy.

Gretchen likes Jason in the movie and that goes for the rest of the adaptations by Tina Fey.

But why?

Jason always cheats on her and hits on any girl he sees. Yet Gretchen keeps going back to him. It's assumed that he only does this to make Gretchen jealous. But he already has her wrapped around his finger, so why bother. Maybe he's just good at pleasing her, but that's not the case.

In a deleted scene in 2004 Mean Girls, Karen and Gretchen have a conversation about Jason. Gretchen saying it's 'the night for [her] and Jason' for Karen to say that they've already done it twice. But Gretchen says that tonight she's going to 'like it'.

This means, the two other times they've had sexual interactions she didn't like having it with him. And why she didnt like it goes unexplained. This ties back to Regina. Like Regina, Jason ignores Gretchen a lot. Much as far as to step over her at Cady's party in the movie when she falls to the floor while drunk. Yet Gretchen still craves attention from him and expects calls and texts back.

She has only shown this behavior toward Jason and two other character. Those characters are Regina and Cady. She yearns for Regina's attention while she's queen bee. When she and Karen go to another room, Gretchen asks to be let in. This leads to the 'What's Wrong With Me' musical number. She loves being with Regina and treasures every little interaction, even if it's through a door.

Now, when Cady is queen bee, she does the same thing. She asks her to make plans so they can hang out. And when she refuses, she uses Cady's crush (Aaron) as a reason to make plans. She's desperate to hang out with Cady and is at her every beck and call.

This could just be Gretchen sucking up to authority, but it's still very similar to how she is with Jason, her on-and-off boyfriend.

Exhibit C: Her Questionable Relationship With Karen

In every adaptation, Gretchen seems to always have a positive relationship with Karen. Which is the only character within the Mean Girls universe she has a positive relationship with (unless you count the Walmart ads as lore and consider her husband to be a character). They have many scenes to the point that TV Tropes considers them to be 'Heterosexual Life-Partners'.

Link:

But from what we know, the two don't have a set love interest. Unlike Cady and Regina who are Betty and Veronica to Aaron's Archie. Their onscreen relationships go as follows from the movie-musical-movie musical

Gretchen: Jason (movie), no one (musical), Kevin (movie musical)

Karen: Seth (kind of), no one, unnamed theater boy

These two do not have a set relationship with boys. Guess which other character this applies to.

Janis Ian or any other variation of her last name.

Janis was only written as straight once. In the 2004 movie with Kevin G. The other adaptations however...

In the musical, her sexuality is left ambiguous but she's single by the start and end of it. And BWW, her Broadway actress, says that she played Janis as queer. Then in the 2024 movie, she's a canonical lesbian and takes her girlfriend to Spring Fling. Meaning that Janis' relationship adaptations looks like this:

Janis: Kevin, no one, unnamed girlfriend

This is very similar to Gretchen and Karen's adaptations relationships. And when we consider how Tina wrote most of these adaptations we can conclude that Janis was at least queer when she first wrote her. And the same should go for Gretchen and Karen.

And the musical and 2024 movie put some interesting moments between them.

This isn't even the half of it, I've heard they've done a gay thigh touch in some productions.

Mind you, the second photo was during Spring Fling after dumping Jason.

As you can see they don't exactly have a straight relationship. Not to say they both are gay and should have been canon in the 2024 movie hahahahaha.. But the two have very obvious chemistry and love each other. Whether platonic or romantic.

And in an interview, Avantika, Karen's 2024 actress, says that Karen is pansexual. And from this analysis, we can say that at the very least Gretchen is some form of queer. Whether it's bi, pan, unlabeled, or even if you headcanon her as lesbian and think of Jason as her beard.

At the end of the day, it's your decision to believe me or not. But it is 3:09 right now (sorry for any typos), and I've been meaning to make this post ever since I saw the 2024 movie in theaters.

Remember, this is all analysis through a queer lens. You can still think of her as straight, or think of the adaptations having different sexuality. I don't want to force what I think onto anyone that they don't believe in. This is just a post by a silly gay person.

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Just finished watching Wicked pt. 1 at my local theater, and I’m left with a few major thoughts:

1. I cannot for the life of me understand this trend of lying to the audience about what a movie is going to look or sound like, or trick us into watching a multi-part series that is advertised as a solo film. I’m not mad it’s a two-parter, I walked into the theater knowing it had to be, but seeing that title card with “part one” on it still made me furious.

2. The movie was visually stunning, far more than the previews would lead you to believe (see above re: tricking the audience for no reason).

The costumes were spectacular (with one weird exception �� what was uppp with Nessarose’s jacket??), the sets were gorgeous and rich and detailed, and the visual world was one I can’t wait to dive into again.

The color grading wasn’t nearly as bad as I expected, though it still could’ve been better. For a world meant to be viewed in technicolor, anything less than Avatar-level saturation felt wrong. Many scenes were still washed out more than reasonable even though the film is graded far better than the previews. All in all, though, the visuals are actually the best part of the film.

3. The casting was great. Ariana sold me as Glinda, I can’t really imagine anyone else better filling that role, it’s like it was made for her. Cynthia and Ariana had great chemistry, and I’ll watch literally anything Jonathan Bailey is in, so there’s that too. Witnessing Ariana reject her boyfriend on screen, the boyfriend who she met on the set of this very film, was really…something.

4. The audio mixing was terrible.

The vocals were…shockingly hard to understand, especially the lyrics in ensemble numbers. I would chalk this up to my auditory processing issues or the reliance I’ve developed on subtitles, but I have NEVER had such a hard time understanding the words in any musical, in theaters or out, including recent releases. Ariana’s lines in particular, especially the higher notes, devolved into unintelligible whistling, and ensemble pieces like the opening number were so cacophonous that I would’ve missed really important exposition if I hadn’t already known what was going on. Even the taunting song her classmates sang to Elphaba was hard to make out, which then made its call-back moment later in the film lose some emotional power.

Is this problem because they allegedly sang live during production? Possibly, but that’s all the more reason not to do it. We already know how hard it is on the actors (hello, Les Mis, we learned nothing from you), and if the sound quality suffers as a result, what are we even doing here? And whether that is the explanation or not, it feels criminal to make a musical adaptation where the music is hard to understand. With all the technology at our disposal, leaving the sound so muddled is a choice, and an insufferable one imo.

(Also, the way that Defying Gravity was weirdly chopped up in the final scene, and the pacing of that entire final sequence, was really jarring and confusing and felt really unnecessary…but that’s a topic for a different post entirely.)

5. None of these things really matter.

As a queer and disabled woman, Ephelba’s story has always resonated deeply with me. Now, watching this movie in November of 2024 made me deeply, profoundly sad.

Two weeks after the most devastating election our country has ever faced, I had to sit and watch a story about a world that has been taken over by a charismatic dictator, a wealthy showman-turned-politician, who has bamboozled the public with smokescreens and flashy gimmicks, turned the majority of the population against intellectuals and anyone who is different, singled out a vulnerable population and scapegoated them for all of the countries problems — problems that he, himself, and his greed, have created — and convinced the public to give up their freedoms and critical thinking in favor of comfort and blissful ignorance.

I had to watch a story about a world in which queerness has been co-opted by the oppressor and stripped of all of its meaning, where privileged gay people have become the bullies, where the native population is being eradicated, where educational institutions are not allowed to teach the truth, where knowledge is kept under lock and key or destroyed entirely, where those who protest or threaten the ruling class are locked in cages, where sensitive and compassionate people are systematically taken advantage of and ground down by the mechanisms of capitalism and tyranny.

I had to watch a story about a girl with physical differences being treated like a leper, a girl with a different way of thinking being gaslit and ostracized, a girl with amazing abilities only seen as a whole, worthwhile person when she’s performing them a specific way for other people.

I had to watch a movie where “different” (read: queer, disabled, neurodivergent, ethnically diverse) people like me are being used as the vehicle for an obvious, slap-you-in-the-face sort of moral to the story, and the remainder of the cast are written as a transparent parody of the oppression that we face in our modern society. Where the cautionary tale, change-your-ways-before-you-end-up-like-this, dystopian nightmare we are being shown on screen…is just a mirror reflecting exactly, precisely the world we have created around us. We are being entertained with horror stories about our current condition. The 911 call is coming from inside the dispatch office, at this point.

And I had to watch all of this, knowing that at least half of the people in this country will walk away from seeing this movie with entirely the wrong message. That I couldn’t even trust that the people sitting in the seats next to me were understanding the moral of the story as they were watching it unfold. But the resounding silence in the theater once the credits started to roll told me maybe they did.

We have been bombarded with advertising and press coverage for this film for months. The cast is plastered across all of our screens while we make memes of them crying and starving themselves to death in front of our eyes. Any discussion of the moral of the story or it’s parallels to our modern society, any examination of its message about the mistakes we are currently making, has been gutted in favor of dangling something shiny to catch our attention and attempting to recreate the Barbenheimer phenomenon for shareholders. In an industry oversaturated with live-action remakes that have no reason to exist beyond revenue generation, this flat and soulless adaptation fits right in. The idea of fighting for what is right and building a just society is being packaged and sold to us as a gimmick, a moving concept that now exists only in fairy tales. And the story doesn’t even get to have a happy ending, because, again, we get to suffer through a sneaky two-parter RE: capitalism! What fun!

The theater was decked out in pink and green, there were commemorative popcorn buckets and collectible pins at the register, and groups of viewers showed up in matching outfits for the event. The acting was lovely, the costumes were brilliant, the movie was a fun and nostalgic way to pass a few hours. But the vibe was decisively hollow, and I walked away feeling less like I was shown a piece of art and more like I was force-fed propaganda. It didn’t move me, it made me grieve. The rest of the audience quickly walked out with me in somber silence, and I have a feeling many of them had the same experience.

Because art used to exist to inspire, to move people, to send a message. A story like Wicked used to exist to remind society of the value of inclusion, the importance of studying the lessons of the past, and to inspire us oppressed folk to keep fighting for a better future. This type of story has always existed, told in so many different forms and repeated again and again because it needed to be. But after three decades of remakes, it feels like we’re past the point where we can learn any lesson Wicked has to teach us. What is the point of another adaptation if it feels this hollow? It is profoundly sad to be sold a message about your own dignity that the world around you has already decided it doesn’t want to hear.

Sitting in the audience of Wicked in 2024 is to confront the fact that we live in a world that has already bought what the Wizard is selling, has already tricked the flying monkeys into attacking, and it’s only a matter of time before the cages are coming.

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I don't think I'll ever forget the emotions I felt when watching I Saw The TV Glow for the first time. The movie itself, while being kinda eerie in it's entirety— gave off an old feeling of just. home.

(SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT)

It's like, "Hey, it's like I've been here before!" Despite never having been there. Owen laying down in the car as the parents drive. Maddy & Owen sitting on the benches at the football field. The fair. Maddy & Owen's houses. The inside of the school.

It gave me an odd feeling of nostalgia for places I haven't truly been to before. Yet, just underneath, there was a lingering sense of dread that kept growing from a specific scene in the car when Owen's talking about The Pink Opaque.

The relief of the scene in the store. Then just. It felt like something had torn my insides out like gutting a fish before leaving me to shove it all back in. Owen screaming out about how he's/she's dying. Maddy saying she found her & Owen's STILL BEATING hearts. Owen cutting himself/herself open to pull that light out. The heartless bodies in their graves, slowly suffocating.

It's all so mesmerizing. But absolutely GUT WRENCHING if you know what's going on. The music pulls you in even more just like how Owen's head was inside the tv screen. Then you're just. Pulled back out into reality as the movie ends. It's genuinely beautiful how much you're able to convey and describe without even directly mentioning it.

There is still time. THERE IS STILL TIME TO BURY WHO YOU AREN'T AND RISE AGAIN AS WHO YOU REALLY ARE. Even if you don't want to now, there will ALWAYS be time. Just don't let yourself suffocate.

[gayofthefae]

Hey, I just wanna say: queer joy and self-forgiveness?

Thank you, Tim. Thank you for the episode delay. Because I haven't thought about the election in hours. I cried about something else tonight. Something good ❤️.

[drewsephrry]

Drew Starkey, Daniel Craig and Luca Guadagnino at the Queer premiere in NYFF62

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Pride Month -Plan B-2009

Plan B was Marco Berger's first film and it's slow and meditative and “arty”.

It's also a wacky kinda Romcom, with one lead -Pablo who is a cinnamon roll, and one lead -Bruno who is half himbo/half fuckboy. They are one of those couples where you thank god they’re fictional so you can love them unabashedly because IRL it would be a disaster.

Bruno dumps his girlfriend out of boredom and then when she finds someone else, he immediately wants her back. While she is willing to still bang him occasionally for fun, she won't dump her new guy for him. His solution? Woo her boyfriend and win him away from her, so she'll be free to come back to him. It goes exactly as planned and entirely off the rails at the same time.

It's chock full of the tropiest tropes, including but not limited to -Mistaken identity, only for the girl(supposedly the reason they kiss the first two times, even stated.) Only one bed. Friends to lovers. One-sided rivalry/rivals to lovers. Practice kissing. Disaster-bi, dual bi-awakenings, greek chorus best friend, implied love at first sight, etc...

CW -Infidelity(not in the MC relationship once they are actually together). Prodigious use of the f-word. So, so much, including once to encourage the leads to kiss.

[decladam]

Someone on tumblr said that “Daniel Craig pointing at drew starkey: "that's the guy i wanna fuck most"...and he is so real for that.” LMAO

😭😭 no bc same i get it daniel