#puyo puyo champions

[modmamono]

Getting people into Puyo Puyo. A lesson in etiquette.

[Edit: The video adaptation with updated script:

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(Some tips on how to get people into Puyo Puyo and where to get them to start.)

Introduction.

First and foremost. My Tumblr post here is (perhaps counter-productively) for people who may want to get their friends and newbies into Puyo Puyo and not for said friends and newbies themselves. (Though you’ll no doubt get something out of this too.)

I just wanna instill some etiquette into people. Because way too often in Discord servers I see a group of people shout at a newbie to play their favorite Puyo Puyo game instead of trying to actually considering what the best Puyo game to get started with is for that newbie.

My goal is to try and help you get people into this series you like.

This is by no means a guaranteed method and should not be seen as such.

What’s Puyo Puyo’s appeal?

Generally speaking these are the one people cite when I ask them:

The characters.

The Artstyle.

Stories/Lore.

A puzzle game with personality. Similar to those of fighting games.

It's funny and charming.

Simple-to-learn, hard-to-master gameplay.

Keep these in mind.

Do you know the person?

This is very important.

- If it’s a friend that shows interest in the colorful cast and the wacky words they shout  as the jellies disappear on screen in a pleasing rhythm, then don’t be shy encouraging them to try a Puyo Puyo game out.

Not all friends have everything in common. But if you’re friends and know enough about each other, that alone should do a lot of heavy lifting.

- If it’s a stranger or someone online you barely know then its best to play it safe.

You can ask a few questions what they look for in a game and maybe consult the bottom of this blogpost what game to recommend to them.

- A tip for both: If they show no interest, then just accept it might not be their thing. It’s disheartening, not getting someone into the thing you love, but that’s just life sometimes. Doesn’t mean you have failed, it just means you’ve been pitching to the wrong people.

Dos & Don’ts.

- This is a series where you come for the story/gameplay and stay for the gameplay/story.

You can sell the game on both as well. But if the person is inclined toward one over the other then sell them on story, gameplay, or even the aestatics or the characters and chances are they’ll grow attached to all the other things. No need to rush things.

-  Reign in your passion a little.

I’m not saying to not be passionate. But it’s possible you can turn people off to Puyo Puyo because you never shut up about it and keep trying to sell it to them.

This goes for anything really. Sometimes people just get sick of hearing a thing, and instead of checking it out, they’ll disassociate and distance themselves from it.

- Don’t oversell how tough the gameplay is.

Unless the newbie like to be challenged don’t tell them Puyo is hard. That can be discouraging.

You won’t believe how many people I see trying to get someone into Puyo Puyo and do this. You want them to get them into this series, right?

Most Puyo Puyo games have difficulty settings in the options menu anyway. Tell them there’s no shame to adjust it to their liking and switch it to another setting when ready.

- Be supportive and encouraging.

If they struggle with the game. Be kind and offer them some advice. Teach them some basic stuff to get through if needed.

Beating WakuWaku is already a huge accomplishment, don’t make that victory invalidated by saying it doesn’t count because they didn’t do HaraHara if you know what I mean.

There’s no shame in lowering the difficulty. They’ll get better eventually.

- Don’t force them advanced tactics right away or funnel them into competitive.

Let. Them. Have. Fun. First.

Don’t breathe down a newbie’s neck for not using GTR or whatever else stacking method. Let them learn and experience the game however they want to. And if they wanna ask for help, then provide that. Try not to preemptively answer EVERYTHING if they didn’t even ask in the first place.

When they’re ready for GTR, competitive, and the like, then they are ready. But they gotta make that call on their own.

- When you play multi-player with your newbie friend(s) try not to do this:

You wanna invite them into the series, right? Why turn them off like that? You don’t wanna chance and encourage them to try again.  Losing to a player is way more demoralizing then losing to the game’s AI will ever be, they’re just two different things.

But if you do play with your less experienced friends the games have handicaps. If you’re good at the game put your board on Spicy, and let your friend choose whatever they want.

- Soooo, uh, about the lore...

Generally speaking, don’t entice a newbie in with that unless they’re a lore nut (and even then I have my reservations).

I know most Puyo fans love that Puyo Puyo has lore and that’s a big appeal to the series, but hear me out:

I think that’s a terrible way to entice a newbie. It’s fun lore for sure, and ideally, they get into it eventually. But have you ever thought about how much lore there actually is per game?

Puyo 1, Tsu, and Sun don’t have much of anything.

Puyo~n has Doppel and her intrigue and amazing vibe. But when you peel off the layer there is nothing but fanon.

Box and Minna have nothing much of note.

Fever 1 is a new world but otherwise is just another Puyo 1, Tsu, and Sun.

Fever 2 and 15th Anni are actually the exception to the rule. And I will go into why later.

And the rest while they do provide lore. It’s all contained within a single game for the most part.

Most of the interesting stuff are from Novels, Drama CDs, old dungeon crawling games. Which is cool and all. But, for now, you’re only just pitching the game(s) to the newbie. That’s quite a bit away.

I just don’t think it’s wise to hype up the lore when they’re barely ever gonna see any of it. I’ve been around too. A lot of the lore goes over a lot of people’s heads.

That and I think it’s just more rewarding to let newbies piece things together themselves. It releases a really nice feeling in the brain that SEGA’s run actually has a solid continuity.

I hope I’ve made my case? This is probably my most controversial stance here. But I think it’s for the best. Puyo Puyo is a series with lore, but it’s not a lore focused series. (I feel the same about Kirby.)

Entice newbies with surface level things first. Like the funny characters or the surface level stories. They’ll get to the deeper stuff eventually when they’re hooked. Trust me.

Unless you know they’re the type of person that likes lore for lore’s sake. But in that case do please let them know most games aren’t upfront about it and they have to put in the effort to dig. And digging for the obscure can be fun.

- Don’t push your favorite Puyo Puyo games onto a newbie without a good reason.

Sometimes your favorite game isn’t the best to start with. And while I believe you could give a newbie any game and if it clicks BOOM they’re a Puyo fan now. I do believe some games are better introductions to get someone into the games.

I’ll get into what I believe are the best options later on in this post.

- Don’t overload them on things to keep in mind.

Give them no more then 2 things to keep in mind. Things like “PPT1 will have a nasty difficulty spike, so be careful” and “I wonder what your thoughts are on a certain moment”.

If you give someone too many things to keep in mind they might get distracted from the game to remember everything you’ve told them.

And I believe that covers it all.

Which games should you recommend to newbies?

I’ll give you a bunch of options. But I’ll let you know which ones I think are the best for a newbie along with my reasoning.

Best:

Puyo Puyo Tetris 1 & 2

No contest. These are just the best ones to start off with. Either one of these will do.

You may disagree for whatever reason, but the fact it’s a crossover with Tetris is its biggest point in its favor. If they don’t like Puyo Puyo they will have Tetris as a safety net. By default that’s the best.

That and it’s been proven that it has been a surprisingly good entry. Over half of the current fanbase started of with PPT1. Like that guy who makes those Puyo Puyo in a Nutshell videos. You know, that guy.

Also you can buy PPT2 on all current consoles, most other games are only accessible through emulation if you want them in English. That’s important because some people are just against emulation or just plain don’t know how to emulate things.

And if they like either of these games maybe they’re willing to try emulation to play more Puyo Puyo.

Also who knows, if they use the Tetris as a safety net maybe they’ll bounce back and later enjoy Puyo Puyo after all.

Good options:

Puyo Puyo Tsu/Puyo Puyo 2 (Most versions)

Puyo Puyo Tsu introduced the standard ruleset most other rules are based off. And that’s the ONLY rule it has. Which I think works to its benefit for a newbie.

While the game lacks much in the way character interactions (maybe recommend them the Super Famicom translation patch which does have those) it does have a goal reaching the top of the tower and beating Satan.

I think the tower is an excellent motivator to get good at the game. If they can beat Satan at the top I’d say they’re ready for any Puyo Puyo game to come.

My preferred version is the Super Famicom version called “Super Puyo Puyo Tsu” but I don’t think you can’t really go wrong with any version besides the Neo Geo Pocket Color one.

For the emulator averse they can buy the game on SEGA 3D Classics Collection on 3DS or the SEGA AGES version on Nintendo Switch.

Super Puyo Puyo Tsu is also available on Nintendo Switch Online’s SNES app. So if you have the basic package, you already have that game at your disposal.

All versions except the NGPC one are in Japanese, but I don’t think that’s much of a hindrance with this game specifically. Any version without the cutscenes is sorta alingual. Sure there’s Japanese text in the game, but of all the games, I think you can enjoy this one the most without having to understand it.

Puyo Puyo!! 20th Anniversary (DS) (Precise Museum patch)

(Note, a Wii patch with a revised script is on its way.)

I think this game is a good introduction to the current day cast and has a ton of modes. So if basic rules don’t do it a newbie may find a mode that slowly eases them into more basic rules.

If you wanna 100% the game you gotta win 200 story mode matches. That’s a lot of Puyo, and that’s plenty of time to learn.

Do refrain from telling newbies that though. 200 is big number. Playing 200 without realizing it is more palatable then telling them you have to do 200 to beat the game. One’s fun, the other sounds like a chore.

Direct their focus on the cast, there’s a lot to chew on this game.

I would recommend, but...:

Puyo Puyo Fever 2 & Puyo Puyo! 15th Anniversary

These are the actual lore games. These games practically give you lore as a reward at every turn. These two games are the exceptions to my rule that you shouldn’t sell the games with lore to a newbie. And soaking all that lore in is a great motivator to play these games.

But we have no patches yet beside some out-of-date ones from Puyo Nexus. Which is the main problem (for Fever 2 especially).

Also, while these two games are a bit holy grail, their praises are rightfully sung. I’m a bit apprehensive calling them great entry points.

Fever 2 relies on the Fever rule. Which not everyone’s a fan of. I’ve been around and not everyone enjoys that rule (and anecdotally it overstimulates me). The Fever Rule has a ton of rules to it. But a lot of people were introduced to Fever 1 and became life-long fans so I don’t know, take my claim with a grain of salt. I’ve been told it’s an easier game then Fever 1 at least. Fever 1 does not play nice.

And 15th’s story mode relies on a roulette. Which doesn’t have to be a negative, but it is a game with a with a ton of gimmick rules. And while 20th is that too it gives you more freedom in that regard, which I think might be more beneficial to a newbie.

But any of the games above here are good places to start. One dishonorable mention to recommend to a newbie:

Puyo Puyo Champions

I’ve historically been nice to this game. But I don’t recommend it to a newbie.

It’s just Puyo 2 and Fever Rules at an admittingly cheap price. Not much to it.

You could argue that I gave Puyo Puyo Tsu slack in that regard. But my counter argument would always be: “What is the goal of Champions?”

This game is so competitive focused it hurts. No charming animations, the characters count instead of escalating their spells. Only good single-player content is hidden behind too many boring tutorials, which is watered down from the Nazo Puyo games.

Puyo Puyo Tsu you scale a tower and get an ending. Reaching the top and beating Satan is the goal.

Champions has nothing to offer besides online rankings. And as I’ve said before, don’t funnel a newbie into being competitive. They’ll do it when they’re ready. Let them enjoy the jelly game on their own pace first. Let them enjoy the characters.

And that’s all I wanted to say.

[shinigami-striker]

Puyo Puyo: Serilly Evolution | Tuesday, 03.12.24

An evolution of Serilly across several games in the Puyo Puyo series.

1994

Puyo Puyo Tsu (Japan only)

1998

Waku Waku Puyo Puyo Dungeon (Japan only)

1999

Puyo Puyo 4 (Japan only)

2013

Puyo Puyo!! Quest (Japan only)

2016

Puyo Puyo Chronicle (Japan only)

2018

Puyo Puyo eSports/Champions

2021

Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (via March 2021 update)

Happy birthday to Serilly the mermaid girl! 🎂 🧜‍♀️ 💦

[ahiijny]

chain pb :o

[cosmicpopstar64]

POV: you are about to have the worst online match of your life

[arcecer]

i am so unbelieveably GOOD at video games!!!! look at how GOOD and ALSO GOOD i am at this

edit: i just realised i misspelt unbelivably twice. i will not be fixing this either time

[lukathejester]

Tl;dr I need puyo puyo video guides not just for setups and transitions but also for the mental stuff like watching pieces and knowing what is coming and how to know what setups to go for with the pieces you're given.

Dear puyo puyo players, I don't think I've asked this here, but what are some ways to learn puyo puyo. I've looked at the wiki, and it has helped me with some setups, but every time I look for a video I use just get the bare basics (I had a similar problem learning riichi mahjong) I do have problems with other things like not fully understanding what setups to go with what pieces. Obviously, all pieces are randomized. I just need help knowing how to decide what setups to do with the pieces you have. I also just generally learn better from video and watching others (that's how i learn fighting games), but I feel the highest level is just too fast for me to understand. I also don't really do well with transitions and dealing with pieces that don't go well with my setup (probably goes back to the mental of knowing pieces with setups)

Anyway, here is me with a messed up setup

Thank you in advance,

Someone who has a little more than bare basic knowledge about puyo puyo

[sigslefthand]

Why does Sig’s voice in Champions sound like a Vocaloid with a cold - me 2023 in a Discord message

[teaspoonofdragons]

Did you know fun fact!! I fucking love digimon. Cue shock

[duckapus]

Game Night Ban List

[Written by SMG4. Occasional comments by the rest of the Crew]

Monopoly -Obviously

Anything Jumanji Related -We keep ending up with the real deal Because Memes

Mousetrap -Elanore keeps making "improvements" Elanore: Real judgmental with the quotes there uncle 4

Poker -SMG3 cheats, Lily's ruthless, and we don't want to feed Bob's gambling addiction Lily: COWARDS!

Mario Party 7 -Mario's never explained why he refuses to play this one specifically Mario: And I never will

Charades -Lil Coding and Saiko are really bad at reading body language

Scrabble -Most of us don't know how to spell

Among Us -We know, Mario Lil Coding: It's not even a party game! Mario: I'm not taking any chances

Any version of Bop-It! -We are all incredibly violent

Skip-Bo SMG3: The Poor Man's Uno don't @ me

Puyo Puyo -Lily and Tari are still on that government issued "No Popping Puyos" mandate they got slapped with after That Incident for a few more months

Go Fish -Apparently Lily, Meggy and Boopkins find it offensive

Wii Bowling -Someone always does the Ball Goes Backwards thing and we all act like it's the first time we've ever seen it and never actually finish the round because we just throw the ball back for two hours

Chess Mario: *flashbacks intensify*

Risk -I know for a fact that Marcy is cheating somehow, I just can't prove it! Marcy: lol get rect by my superior strategic might scrub

Tableturf -I know we haven't actually played it on game night before, but considering Meggy nearly caused an international incident the first time she played I think a preemptive ban is justified Meggy: ...Yeah, that's fair I guess.

Weegee Board -I can't believe I have to say this but SUMMONING A GIANT EVIL DEMONIC VERSION OF LUIGI IS NOT A PARTY GAME!!!!

[dragoningachahell]

Not straight

I'd be dead

[ultimate-blorbo-bracket]

Ultimate Blorbo Bracket: Winners and Honorable Mentions

With the third and final tournament now having come to a close, I would like to to give special shout outs to some of the characters who had made it all the way up to the final three rounds from their respective tournaments! Here we go!!

Tournament 1

Champion and crowned Ultimate Ultimate Blorbo

Ingo from Pokemon Black & White

Semifinalists

Josuke Higashikata from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Miles "Tails" Prower from Sonic the Hedgehog

N from Pokemon Black & White

Honorable Mentions

Roxas from Kingdom Hearts

Pit from Kid Icarus

Link from The Legend of Zelda

Riku from Kingdom Hearts

Tournament 2

Champion

Emmet from Pokemon Black & White

Semifinalists

Celeste from Animal Crossing

Ai from Puyo Puyo

Terra from Kingdom Hearts

Honorable Mentions

Vector the Crocodile from Sonic the Hedgehog

Iruma Suzuki from Welcome To Demon School Iruma-kun

Yu Narukami from Persona 4

Bandana Waddle Dee from Kirby

Tournament 3

Champion

Shadow the Hedgehog from Sonic the Hedgehog

Semifinalists

Link from The Legend of Zelda

Vash the Stampede from Trigun

Mimikyu from Pokemon

Honorable Mentions

Daycare Attendant from Five Nights at Freddy's: Security Breach

Miles "Tails" Prower from Sonic the Hedgehog

Ballister Boldheart from Nimona

Spock from Star Trek

Congrats to all these characters for having made it so far in their respective tournaments and to their respective fans who voted and supported them!!

[modmamono]

Getting people into Puyo Puyo.

A lesson in etiquette.

I think this fanbase needed this video.

A video remake of a previous post of mine (outdated).

[shinigami-striker]

Evolution of Raffina (Puyo Puyo) | Thursday, 07.25.24

For all things Raffina (Puyo Puyo) today, here are some of the games she notably appeared in since Puyo Puyo Fever, including:

Puyo Puyo Fever (2003; debut game)

Puyo Puyo Fever 2 (2005)

Puyo Puyo Tetris (2014)

Puyo Puyo eSports/Champions (2018)

Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (2020)

Puyo Puyo Puzzle Pop (2024)

[ahiijny]

rafisol...

[nenilein]

Puyo Series Producer Mizuki Hosoyama about an upcoming Puyo Puyo game:

Hosoyamada: "And since Puyo Day is coming up awkward laughter, well, there's been talk of new Puyo games, and I can tell you, well, I think we've got a lot in the works, (the VAs all go "Ohhhh!") but, you see, today I can't talk about it at all yet (the wording implies he's not allowed to), but I can tell you we're working as hard as we can on that, so please, wait a little bit longer. It's Puyo Year after all, so…" Suganuma: "It is a once in a hundred year occasion, after all." (All the other VAs start loudly agreeing.) Hosoyamada: "Yeah, the pressure is on… awkward laughter I hope we can do it, but can we, um… Eh, well, PuyoTet2 is still selling pretty well right now. Champions is still selling too, I just hope that can carry us over until then more awkward laughter There's still so much that needs to be done, so… I really want everyone to have lots of fun playing actual Puyo, and it IS the Puyo Year, so trust me, we're only at the start of it. (everybody goes "OHHHH") So, PLEASE, PLEASE wait, if we have anything to report, I'll let you guys (in the studio) know first."

-Said at 2:15:00 during the Puyo Day Stream on January 29th 2024, translated by me.

Hosoyamada stuttered a lot, so please bear with any small mistakes.

[miracletails]

you seem to really like puyo puyo. and it seems to have an actual story as well. how do you think one would get into it?

I absolutely LOVE Puyo Puyo, I'll gladly help you out!! This is going to be a very long post, because I really really have a lot to say!! So under the read more:

Personally, game-wise I think for newcomers, Puyo Pop Fever is a fun easy starting point, it's very short and I'd say pretty newcomer friendly!

Puyo Pop Fever (PC) (Abandonware link, go ham)

This game is fairly light on story, however is the start of the Sega era of the franchise, so you could consider it as a soft reboot, very short and fun. It's one of the few games that have an official english version, as half of the franchise is JP only. The game oozes charm!!!

The story mode this game has is basically an arcade mode, Easy mode(Run Run Course) is 3 stages, Normal mode(Waku Waku Course) is 8 Stages, same with Hard mode (Hara Hara Course)

If you're looking to try some of the games that are officially translated, and still up for purchase, Puyo Puyo Tetris is a pretty good place to start!

Puyo Puyo Tetris (PC) - Steam [Also available on Switch and Ps4! That's for the english releases, there's 3DS/WiiU/PSVita versions, but those are JP only]

There's a sale going on, so you can get it for a pretty good price, nice starting point, although if you don't know any character, you might miss what some things mean. GREAT game, pretty fun! A lot longer than Fever as well, story mode is a fun time! (Great with friends!)

Story mode is something you don't have to do on one sitting, it's stage based, so if the arcade-y story mode of Fever is not your thing, then this might be better for you!

Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (PC) - Steam [Also available on Switch/PS5/Xbox]

This one is also on sale atm! This one is somewhat of a direct sequel to PPT2, however characters act as if they don't know eachother, plot stuffs. It adds more modes, more characters, more balanced-ish in the Puyo v Tetris matchup, personally play it more than PPT1. Still a great game! (ALSO great with friends!!!) (Basically better than PPT1 but if you care about story do both)

Story mode is stage based once again! Has a bunch of side stuff, pretty fun!

Puyo Puyo Sun (PC) [Abandonware link, go ham]*

This is a fan translation, worth checking out, another fun time with silly character interactions, story mode is arcade-y! Each mode has it's own protag, very fun!!

Puyo Puyo Champions [PC] - Steam [Also available on Switch/PS4]*

This game has No Story Whatsoever, this was originally a game for people to use on tournaments, has a bunch of challenges for single player stuff, basically Puyo reduced to it's bare basics, has only Tsu and Fever as ruleset! It's very cheap. Like, Very Very cheap. It's on sale too, so depends on if you want something just to vibe.

Puyo Puyo Tsu [SNES] - Nintendo Switch Online [Also on many consoles but hey official release for free, technically]

It's not translated, but a very fun game, there's an english patch online if you look for it, I recommend looking for that to enjoy the silly cutscenes, fun game, revolutionary for the Falling Block Puzzle Genre!!!

SEGA AGES Puyo Puyo 2 [Switch]

Thought I'd also add this, it's the same as the previous mentioned, however it's a port of the Arcade version of the game! A nice option tbh!

SEGA AGES Puyo Puyo [Switch]

Similarly to the last one, enhanced port of the original arcade Puyo Puyo 1, it has an english translation too! Much more dificult IMO due to early game weirdness, no offsetting/countering, pieces kinda lock in into rows, a lot of technical stuffs ya know! It's a completely different ruleset and beast tbh

Puyo 1 bonus:

Kirby's Avalanche/Kirby's Ghost Trap [SNES] - Nintendo Switch Online

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine [SEGA Genesis/Megadrive] - Nintendo Switch Online+

These two are just Puyo 1 reskinned for different consoles, so thought I'd add them!!

So, now to get into games that are Not officially translated:

Puyo Puyo 20th Anniversary (NDS/Wii/PSP/3DS/PS3) - [English Fan Translation Available for the NDS Version]*

My personal favorite game of the franchise, every character in the roster has their own story mode, lots of unlockables such as music, alt voices, modes, characters. Has a BIG selection of modes and genuinely some of the best features, such as an Endless mode for practicing, that helps you to know where your chain trigger is + how long it'd be, AND let's you rewind time to fix mistakes and such.

Story mode is more arcade-y too, each match on the story allows you to pick what ruleset you want to play, very very comfy! Has a bunch of silly gimmicky modes

It's my favorite game, so so SO good.

There's a fan translation made by @/presicemuseum for the NDS version, worth checking out if you're interested on the stories featured.

Now, quick rundown of what games have fan translations that might be worth checking out as well!!!

Super Nazo Puyo - Rulue's Roux (SNES) : GREAT GAME, focused on a single player experience that's more of solving puzzles, I 100% recommend it. Recent fav tbh.

Puyo Puyo 7 (Wii) : Recently re-translated to have more accurate dialogue, a fun lil game, have to go through it again for funsies! Introduction of the Current(? KINDA?) Puyo protag, Ringo!!

Puyo Puyo 15th Anniversary (NDS) : Pretty neat game, fun story and interactions! Similar to 20th with having various different rulesets, def also worth checking out!!!

Puyo Puyo Fever Chu! (PS2) : Partial translation, all of the story modes have been translated, by far one of, if not, the most lore heavy Puyo game, pretty interesting and fun! One of the few games to have the gimmick of being able to use items for matches!

For other fan translated Puyo media, I recommend looking at:

@/Precisemuseum : They have translations for the Light Novels released, as well have been making several patched, some being part of the previously mentioned, definitely worth checking out. They also have a page dedicated to translations made by other people, very useful.

@/primptownlibrary : They also have translations for some of the light novels, worth checking out as well!!! Not as active, but def go take a look

@/nenilein : They have many translations for several Puyo media, such as character profiles, audio dramas, and other info directly related to the series!

Either way, I hope this helps you out!! I am a massive fan of this series and love talking about it, am always here to help and give input o((>ω< ))o

I hope I made enough sense!! English is not my native language so sometimes I might mess up my wording :')