#proships cw

[fictionkinfessions]

can more kin servers put in their invite posts whether theyre proship or not PLEASE i dont like having to join in order to find out

x

[sk1ttery]

Proship is not short for “problematic ship”

I did not say that it was. They are not necessarily the same.

However.

While I don’t agree with harrassment over ships, I also don’t agree with shipping things that are considered illegal or harmful, such as incest, abuse or age gaps. I don’t harrass people for these things, I simply don’t interact and respectfully ask they don’t interact with me.

If you disagree with my opinion, I’m sorry but I won’t be arguing.

Block and move on is my motto, therefore please respect this boundary and either block me or un-anon so I can block you.

[aqours]

we've entered a really fucking weird era of shipping discourse ngl

[tyrianluda]

(dracula flow voice) the bugs are back.

(part 1) (part 2)

[freakstrider]

TikTok antis are fucking ridiculous. “Suing you for pedophilla” mf I’m a minor. If I was ACTUALLY gonna be sued, this would be sent via email. Not fucking TikTok. I’m also pretty sure you can’t set out minors information out to the world legally, so yeah. Genuinely fuck off.

I know I’m not guilty of any of that shit first of all, and second of all, if you knew my information, fucking contact me via email like a grown adult. Fuck off.

Also… this may be me freaking out thinking it might be real but whatever

[tyrianludaship]

this panel is so fucking surreal to me. he is literally doing the "kyaa pervert! ><" type shit like in anime

[enemywasp]

"Honey, I assure you as a condescending child on the interent that I know you better than a medical professional and your therapist is grooming you if they support you :/"

[synf3ll]

[proselfshipsafespace]

Paranoid selfshippers, your f/o(s) wanted me to tell you that it'll all be okay, that you're perfectly safe and they'll protect you from whatever you think might get you or whatever is troubling your mind.

I promise you, you're f/o(s) want to keep you safe and protected and want to make sure you feel comfortable and calm.

[hey-u-weird]

Yaelokre, boundaries and superfans

I didn’t actually want to reactivate this account, but as I watched the whole Yaelokre thing unfold I just wanted to say my 2 cents

Stating that you don’t want people to make nsfw of your characters is a completely fair thing to say, and it sucks that people aren’t respecting your feelings

but ultimately you can’t control what people do with your own characters and how they will interpret your work, you can’t control thoughts, feelings, triggers and boundaries other than your own

which brings me to the next bit: boundaries. What are they? They’re something for you to set up and control. A very valid boundary is saying things like “I’m extremely uncomfortable with erotic works of my characters, please don’t send it to me”

But that is not what Keath (Yaelokre) has done

Yaelokre has asked their majorly underage fans to go out of their way to send and to report them “inappropriate, offensive material and or misinfo” about their work.

This is incredibly unprofessional and dangerous, as they’re sending minors into adult spaces to report nsfw and to play vigilante and go “pedo hunting”, as if this is a fun thing minors can do as a hobby.

Sure, the artist most likely didn’t intend this to happen, and they didn’t specifically say minors should report nsfw media, but the post was seen by more than 90.000 people, so of course minors will take it as a call to action to “hunt” for it, bringing themselves in danger.

What’s worse, not only is Yaelokre abusing copyright laws (even if they registered their characters for copyright, other people can still create fan works of their characters under “fair use”), they have been completely silent about their fans’ behavior, essentially greenlighting harassment, violent and graphic threats being sent to anyone who is or might be upsetting Kaeth

TW // disturbing threats , mention of violence and genitalia mutilation

it’s really interesting, Yaelokre wants control over the fandom and people who make art, yet it is superfans who accuse people who made those (currently 6) erotic artworks and those who defend the right to make such art as unable to control themselves.

this begs the question, why isn’t the creator saying anything? Because they’re currently blocking everyone who even mentions those threats. This confirms Yaelokre is aware of what is happening, but they will not control their violent fan base because they’re helping them take control of their boundaries like “vigilantes”

And while these toxic superfans have only gone after the artworks of erotic nature which exist in the fandom, since the artist has stated that “misinfo and offensive material” also upsets them, it will only be a matter of time before even genuine, sfw only fans are going to feel the wrath of them eventually

Because as long as something exist that could make someone uncomfortable, it’s bad, which also raises the question why art is made at all then since any art can make someone uncomfortable

I would also like to mention that this is an incredibly toxic way of handling your own work. Original characters might be your own, but they are merely an extension of yourself and not you, nor your “children”. Yaelokre has implied that this mistreatment of their OCs is akin to actual child abuse. This will absolutely lead to people sending “offensive” art to child protection organizations too, hindering their job

And I completely understand how upsetting it is to see material you don’t like, many big and small artists have voiced their feelings about it, but this attempt to coercively control people who make art the or an artist doesn’t like will only lead to them crashing and burning out.

It is far easier to avoid nsfw, fanart/fanfics and pretend it doesn’t exist because you really can’t fight against it, once you make art for others, once your work is “famous” enough that it accumulates millions of subscribers and fans all over the world and go on tours, then it’s no longer your own little project

And if you can’t handle the responsibility of being tactful with your fandom (stop treating total strangers in the fandom like they’re your friends, they are NOT) and attempt to control them because your feelings were hurt, then maybe you should step back from social media, let someone else take care of it and focus on creating what you like away from all the triggering things that can upset you

and really though, was it really necessary to go nuclear over 6 pieces of erotic artwork?

needless to say however, please leave the artist alone. We can’t force them to see how damaging this behavior is to themselves and to the existence of (their) fandom as a whole, they’ll have to come to this realization themselves.

once you, as creator, attempt to sue someone for an idea, headcanons, theories or art you don’t like, then there will be no fandom left

[fictionkinfessions]

This might seem in relation to the recent proship post but it isn't, it just happened to remind me to say this</3 To the proship community, especially our friends, thank you so much for giving us a safe space. You've made it so incredibly easy for us to just exist, and to talk about our sources and our source memories without any judgment, even the ones of us who don't feel regret or guilt or disgust towards our actions. You've treated our persecutors like friends even when they got nasty, and you've comforted them when they did feel upset about their sources. I know none of this is entirely in relation to your anti-harassment stances towards fiction, but that has definitely helped us feel safer around you because you ALSO allowed us to cope. You've allowed us the freedom to cope in a way that we, for a small while, thought was "bad" or "evil", only to find out that it was the literal best thing for us, and has helped us immensely with our intrusive thoughts, trauma, and even our depression among other things. We are also just so glad we've met some of you as friends, because some of you are honestly the best people we've ever met, even the ones of you we no longer talk with. You've been a shockingly big part in keeping us away from our suicidal thoughts and ideologies, and given us a safe space to vent about these things where we know you will never judge us for what we say or do.

Thank you, genuinely, for being one of the many communities that have given us so much help in our lives, especially with our mental issues.

x

[huntinglove]

Hey you! Your F/O told me to give you some reminders:

[aqours]

hey did you know we've reached a point in weird discourse puritanism that people like actually unironically think that Call of Duty makes you visualize the horrors of war as opposed to thinking that war is cool and specifically is funded by the US military to make the US military look badass and cool. like people will actually say "well unlike the gross game with incest in it CALL OF DUTY ACTUALLY SHOWS-"

(that was the more serious one but also completely blind to the understanding that higher wanted ratings in GTA actively makes the game more fun so it actively encourages you to do it, as it makes the game more fun by increasing the intensity of the game itself and letting you kill more cops)

[muttship]

> “this person is bad for thinking that an act where no child gets hurt is better than a crime being committed against a child!!!”

what do antis mean by this

PRO-C DNI ⁉️⁉️idk why my “fucking kids is BAD, antis” post is in that side of tumblr but this is clearly not abt u

[freakstrider]

I’ve had to deal with a devastating issue today; and I feel like us Proshippers need to have a conversation really quickly about something very important.

Drawings of real minors in sexual situations should not be created or posted. Ever.

I’ve made that mistake when I was 12, and it still affects me deeply to the point I call myself a CSEM victim because of my stupid and immature decisions. (Actually, if you knew me when I was Destroyalition, you might’ve seen my vent posts about how bad it affected me when I was younger.)

I understand if you’re a selfshipper and want to show your love to your f/o by drawing you guys in romantic situations, but drawings of real kids in those situations are risky. Sexual drawings of that nature are something we should be warning kids not to draw at all. I don’t want anyone else to feel the same pain and grief and anxiety I felt after learning what I drew was harmful and illegal.

Please, be careful. Don’t let adults draw you in sexual situations. Don’t let yourself make a dumb and immature decision. Please stay safe and be careful.

So Minor Proshippers. Listen up. There’s an alternative that is safe to this called creating OC self inserts. Please use those instead to your hearts content. Make sure they don’t look like you though, and please heal.

I just feel like this needs to be specified to the MAXIMUM. I am dearly sorry to everyone who was as immature as I was, and made the same mistake. Take this as a warning, don’t learn the same way I did. Stay safe.

[coockie8]

"I'm not spoon-feeding morals you should 100% already have established if you're over the age of 5 to you." LOUDER FOR THE IDIOTS IT THE BACK 📢📢📢📢

Look, if you have cognitive disabilities or whatever that make you incapable of distinguishing fiction from reality, then that sucks, and I truly do feel for you.

But at the same time if you're over the age of like 12 and still need a book to tell you rape and murder are bad, then maybe you just shouldn't be reading books that are about rape and murder ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Like I'm sorry, but if you know you have a tendency to act out what you read, then you should know better than to read morally grey books that don't word-for-word tell you that the actions taken by the morally grey characters within are bad and you shouldn't emulated them. Your mental illness does not absolve you of the responsibility of your actions, actually. I know, shocking.

Unfortunately this will limit you to media designed for children, because media designed for adults is going to go in assuming you already know not to act out bad things that you read.