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first of all, hi winter!! its been a while haha
second, what’s this movie you’re posting about? im very curious
Oh my, hi!!! Love to see you again haha 💜
Oh, yes, so, the tittle is "professor Marston and the wonder woman" and it focuses on the polyamorous relationship (triad) of the man who created Wonder Woman comics!
As far as I know, man was very private about his life, so movie is mostly a fictional creation but it is true that man was in polyamorous relationship and that Wonder Woman was based on, well, bdsm.
But movie is really great when it comes to polyamory representation! Denial of partners, rejection of their relationship by society, how it affected them, how they try to live while still being in triad, how it affects kids... All in all, it's really great! It isn't perfect, of course, but it's good enough to say it's a rather positive than negative polyamory representation!
Oh, it also has lots of aesthetic/pretty montages and some light +18 scenes but it's nothing too much.
Anyway, thanks for stopping by and sending ask! Love you see you again haha 💜🫶
#my fav people#ask#professor marston and the wonder woman#I may be a little bit excited about that movie if you couldn't tell hehe
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Thank you tumblr for always showing me new (or new to me) media. Idk who I'm following that reblogged that gif of Professor Marston and the Wonder Woman (the bondage one) but I watched the movie and I loved it, so thank you!
#I stg this is the only way I find media these days#like I'm not a movie person most of the time#I watch the movies I know well and can only start a new movie when the stars align in just the right way for me to be open to new media#and tumblr seems to always give me something when that moment hits#professor Marston and the wonder woman
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A few sapphic film recs!
Just a few recommendations for sapphic films under 2 hours which may or may not have flown under the radar:
Moonlit Winter / 윤희에게 (1hr 45m, 2019, dir. Lim Dae-hyung)
Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (1hr 48m, 2017, dir. Angela Robinson)
Who's the Woman, Who's the Man / 金枝玉葉 2 (1hr 50m, 1996, dir. Peter Ho-Sun Chan)
Sisterhood / 骨妹 (1hr 37m, 2016, dir. Tracy Choi)
DEBS (1hr 31m, 2004, dir. Angela Robinson)
Farewell, My Queen / Les adieux à la reine (1hr 40m, 2012, dir. Benoît Jacquot)
Bonus - short film: Love Does Human / 사람 하는 사랑 (24 mins, 2019, dir. Oh Seon-ju)
Commentary under the cut!
1. Moonlit Winter / 윤희에게 (1hr 45m, 2019, dir. Lim Dae-hyung) - IMDB | MyDramaList
This movie is about a daughter (Kim So-hye) who finds out about her divorced mother’s (Kim Hee-ae) past with another woman (Katase Jun), and how in encouraging her mother to reconnect, the two finally open up to each other as well. Dry stuff on paper, but there’s more to it: the mother and her former lover didn’t just break up, they were split apart by their families as teenagers and the mother was forced to marry a man against her will. In short, it deals with the aftermath of the typical “bad ending” of older stories featuring WLW characters, wherein schoolgirls in love would be separated and married off to preserve the heteronormative status quo.
Although the queer relationship does not get much screentime at all – the two characters share a single scene, there are no flashbacks, and there’s not even a hug – queerness remains at the heart of the movie. It’s a rare depiction of how the repression of queerness leaves scars on people which affect how they engage with the world, but which also shows that as long as they are alive, there is still hope that those scars can be healed. Also, despite the heavy-sounding subject matter, it’s a very gentle experience: there are no direct depictions of homophobia and no sensationalism, just a little story of human connection unfolding in a snow-cloaked Hokkaido.
2. Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (1hr 48m, 2017, dir. Angela Robinson) - IMDB
The blurb on IMDB says that this movie is about “psychologist William Moulton Marston (Luke Evans), and his polyamorous relationship with his wife [Elizabeth] (Rebecca Hall) and their mistress [Olive] (Bella Heathcote) who would inspire his creation of the superheroine, Wonder Woman”. As someone who is not particularly drawn to biopics, male protagonists, polyamory, BDSM, or Wonder Woman, I assumed that this movie wouldn’t be my jam and so didn’t watch it until quite a while later – which is when I discovered just how wrong I was.
First, the two women take up just as much of the movie’s focus as Marston. Elizabeth, Marston’s wife and fellow psychologist, is highly intelligent but equally highly-strung; she does not know how to deal with her husband’s attraction to new research assistant Olive, nor Olive’s attraction to both her husband and Elizabeth herself, and this internal conflict (even after the three enter into a polyamorous relationship) features heavily in the story. Second, although it declares itself to be “based on a true story”, the movie is not especially interested in recreating or representing the past. Rather, the historical elements are used as a framework to explore certain ideas: Diana’s Lasso of Truth symbolises how progress and healing must be first founded upon honesty, for example. The polyamory and BDSM is also not at all sordid or sensationalised, but rather presented in a nuanced (though still sexy!) manner. More than anything, this is a movie with a big heart and big ideas, and should be judged on its own merits.
3. Who's the Woman, Who's the Man / 金枝玉葉 2 (1hr 50m, 1996, dir. Peter Ho-Sun Chan) - IMDB | MyDramaList
All you need to know going into this sequel of 1994 movie He's a Woman, She's a Man (金枝玉葉) is that main character Wing (Anita Yuen) is a woman who has found both fame and (heterosexual) love while disguising herself as a male idol, and that her relationship with record producer Sam (Leslie Cheung) is known to the general public— although it is perceived as being homosexual in nature due to her persona. At this point, you might be wondering why an M/F romantic comedy is on this list, but this movie is a bit odd in that instead of focusing only on problems such Sam’s internalised homophobia and misogyny (both of which are addressed in the story), one of the new obstacles facing the couple is the female lead meeting female pop star Fong Yim Mui (Anita Mui)… and both starting to fall for each other.
I was surprised at how sensitively Wing and Fong Yim Mui’s respective arcs are handled, especially for a mainstream movie from the 90’s starring two of Hong Kong’s most popular performers at the time. Instead of giving the two women a meet-cute and leaving it at that, a lot of care is put into showing them processing and coming to terms with their feelings in their own time. Romantic and sexual attraction is also highlighted separately, which is refreshing given how they are usually depicted as inextricably linked even now… Obviously Wing and Fong Yim Mui don’t end up together, but their feelings aren’t dismissed and – relative to the narrative constraints – the ending is a warm, optimistic one. Also, Anita Mui gives an absolutely award-worthy performance in one of the scenes with her character and Wing, so fans of her should definitely give this movie a try.
Important note: Although there’s much that’s good about it, Who's the Woman, Who's the Man is far from perfect. Early on, there’s a masquerade party where two of the characters are wearing masks which look like racist caricatures, and the masks are crop up in multiple scenes in the film. More serious is the subplot about a male character who keeps trying to win over a lesbian, culminating in her agreeing to sleep with him once while he’s dressed as a woman (CW: transphobia, homophobia) – though this storyline ends with the man accepting that she really is gay and parting on friendly terms. That said, these problems are already mild compared to the actively hateful transphobic and homophobic jokes present in so many of its contemporaries, so if you’ve watched a 90’s Hong Kong comedy before, chances are that your tolerance level is more than high enough.
4. Sisterhood / 骨妹 (1hr 37m, 2016, dir. Tracy Choi) IMDB | MyDramaList
Sisterhood opens with tragedy. Originally from Macau, main character Sei (Gigi Leung) is living quietly in Taiwan with her husband after the 1999 Handover when her life is overturned by a newspaper personal ad informing her that her long-estranged friend and colleague Ling has passed away. The movie is shot through with flashbacks to earlier times, tracking a young Sei (Fish Liew) as she starts doing sex work and is taken under the wing of the more experienced Ling (Jennifer Yu) and her friends. Memories of togetherness and community are juxtaposed against sequences of present-day Sei struggling to navigate her grief, the tensions of the now-fractured friend group, and a Macau that has changed just as much as she has. The acting and script can be clunky in places but the sentiment shines through, especially after the first third, at which point the movie starts honing in on Sei and Ling’s relationship. It’s not a happy story, but nor is it defined by sadness; instead, it posits that the past is not merely to be mourned, that it is instead something that can shape and provide a foundation for the future. I won't talk too much about how queerness figures into this story, due to spoilers, but rest assured that it is present and important!
5. D.E.B.S. (1hr 31m, 2004, dir. Angela Robinson) - IMDB
Okay, you've probably heard of this one before if not watched it already, but anyway! This was the first WLW movie I watched, and for a long time, the only one which I actually enjoyed. It’s about an elite spy (well, more like an honours student at spy school) (Sara Foster) and a criminal mastermind (Jordana Brewster) falling for each other, a premise which is just as fun and over-the-top as it sounds. The movie does a great job of mixing action, humor, and romance, and it doesn’t overstay its welcome – it’s got a nice compact runtime and a cracking pace. There’s still nothing quite like it in my opinion, though I’m very welcome to any recommendations in this line (my askbox is open if you have any!).
6. Farewell, My Queen / Les adieux à la reine (1hr 40m, 2012, dir. Benoît Jacquot) - IMDB
Loosely based on Chantal Thomas’ novel of the same name, Farewell, My Queen is a portrait of French nobility in decline, following maidservant Sidonie Labarde (Léa Seydoux) who is in the service of Marie Antoinette (Diane Kruger). It's a beautiful, lavish production which effectively conveys the perspective of a servant locked in the gilded cage that is Versailles during the French Revolution, and is a rare case of a historical figure as famous as Antoinette being presented as queer in a serious historical drama.
That being said, the queerness is mostly background, coming mainly in the form of Antoinette’s crush on? relationship with? duchess Gabrielle de Polignac (Virginie Ledoyen)— though a case can be made for Sidonie, whose outward opacity belies an unwavering, almost unsettling, devotion to her queen. Also, be warned that the movie has many a dodgy shot of cleavage, and two instances of unnecessary and voyeuristic nudity... but other than that, it really does have gorgeous cinematography.
Fun fact: there really were rumours about Antoinette having a scandalous relationship with the duchess, although these have nearly always been written off as baseless reputation-smearing.
Bonus - short film: Love Does Human / 사람 하는 사랑 (24 mins, 2019, dir. Oh Seon-ju) - MyDramaList
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Some say that the best science fiction puts a spotlight on some part of the human condition, and this short film does just that. Main character Tae Eun's (Kim Min-ju) girlfriend Joo An (Jang Sam-yi) no longer has a human body: after carrying out a medical operation which transferred her consciousness to a computer system, she now has a web-camera for her eyes, a speaker for her mouth, and control over their home's devices for her hands. And although the change was by Joo An's choice and Tae Eun was supportive, the pair struggle to adjust to this new reality, and are confronted with the need to communicate and to consider each other's perspectives. Love Does Human has a bit of a slow start, and there were points where I didn't understand why the characters were reacting in a certain way, but it all comes together beautifully in the end. Through its sci-fi premise, viewers are encouraged to think about real-life problems using a different angle, and the movie never gets too heavy. Also, shoutout to some excellent voice work from the two actors - Joo An is performed nearly entirely through voice but she feels deeply human and present, and Tae Eun's actor also has a standout scene featuring some great voice acting. All in all, it's a short film that's well worth checking out (especially since the director has made it available for free, with English subtitles, on Youtube - embedded above)!
#sapphic#lesbian#gay#wlw#wlw media#moonlit winter#professor marston and the wonder women#debs#farewell my queen#love does human#wlw recommendations#list#sapphic films#whos the woman whos the man#金枝玉葉2#sisterhood 2016#骨妹
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Spouse and I were watching Wonder Woman 1984 this weekend and somehow I had this feeling that...
(Wonder Woman 1984, 2020)
... is very much like...
(Sailor Moon, 1992-1997)
But then I found out that...
(Wonder Woman, 1974-1979)
So here I stand corrected.
#i liked the movie#wonder woman 1984#very entertaining#nice action scenes#took a while for me to get used to the Lasso of Truth defying any law of physics tho#but after i finally got accustomed it was great fun#the cameo at the end was a clear highlight#so glad they did this#wonder woman#wonder woman 1974#gal gadot#lynda carter#sailor moon#bishojo senshi sailor moon#projectile tiara#p s this weekend we also watched#professor marston and the wonder women#which was more fascinating than i anticipated#schroed's thoughts
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“Who says there's no pain in love? Love is painful.”
Professor Marston and the Wonder Women (2017).
Directed by Angela Robinson.
Luke Evans - Rebecca Hall - Bella Heathcote
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RIP to William Moulton Marston, Elizabeth Holloway, and Olive Bynes you would’ve loved today’s bdsm & poly dating scenes
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i just watched professor marston and the wonder women and i’ve never seen a better movie. it’s SO good. everything is handled so well and it’s actually a completely healthy representation of a polyamorous relationship???? i’ve NEVER seen that before. everyone needs to go watch it rn it is so cool.
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Also what the hell???? Angela Robinson directed Herbie Fully Loaded...
#Angela Robinson#I should re-watch Professor Marston and the Wonder Woman#Herbie Fully Loaded#how did I not notice this?????
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Other relevant media on these folks: Professor Marston and the Wonder Women, the incredible movie directed by Angela Robinson (who was also behind D.E.B.S.).
Nerdy Fact #1434: Wonder Woman was originally based on two women: the wife of creator William Marston and one of his former students that both he and his wife had sexual encounters with.
(Source.)
#omggggg I did not know that about the bracelets that’s awesome#wonder woman#william marston#Elizabeth Marston#olive byrne#professor marston and the wonder women
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D.E.B.S. at 20: a Queer Cult Classic
Bessie Yuill Photo: Sundance/WireImage
There is a secret film hidden within the shadowy sapphic corners of Letterboxd. Some call it escapist trash, some call it an underrated cult classic, fools call it a male fantasy. It calls itself D.E.B.S. As other early-2000s chick flicks like Charlie’s Angels and St. Trinian’s have been reevaluated and embraced for their candy-floss aesthetics and campy wit over the years, the lesbian community was quietly reclaiming its own equivalent with 2004’s D.E.B.S.
The precursor to contemporary high-concept lesbian films like Bottoms, the spy flick is filled with something that queer female moviegoers still often yearn for: fun. That includes Jordana Brewster and her era-defying eyebrows as the impeccably named supervillain Lucy Diamond, John Woo–style fight scenes that parody the action genre in the same way as Charlie’s Angels, and a cheerfully cheap aesthetic where spies run around in plaid schoolgirl skirts.
D.E.B.S. was written, directed, and edited by filmmaker Angela Robinson. While “unapologetically queer” might be an overused phrase, it does apply neatly to Robinson. The Chicago-born director’s first project was a short film called Chickula: Teenage Vampire, calling on the long history of vampiric queer women that began with 1872’s Carmilla.
Her love of playing with genre led her to later put a lesbian spin on the movie musical by writing the underappreciated Girltrash: All Night Long and exploring polyamory in a period biopic about the creators of Wonder Woman, Professor Marston and the Wonder Women. On the small screen, she also burnished her lesbian credentials by working on several episodes of The L Word.
When D.E.B.S. started life as a short film, Robinson described it as “a story about a trio of superspies who are all chicks. I love all the comic-book characters: Charlie’s Angels, Batman, Josie & the Pussycats … But I always wanted them to be gay and they never were, so I wrote my own.” Success at Sundance led to Sony snatching the short up and deciding that D.E.B.S. should be a full-length feature.
Two decades later, the joy of this movie lies in the details. The tone is immediately set by a gravelly voice-over telling us that there is a secret test hidden within the SAT to recruit young female superspies (and establishing that, like Bottoms, this is a film aware of genre archetypes and willing to push believability). Our main character Amy (Sara Foster) is an academic overachiever — like many lesbians overcompensating for their perceived failure to live up to social norms. Her perfect score on the secret SAT test makes it even more scandalous when she falls for the aforementioned supervillain Lucy Diamond.
Queer friend groups may delight over the nostalgic frosty eye shadow and lip gloss worn by the D.E.B.S. (which stands for “discipline, energy, beauty, strength,” naturally) at all times. Flip phones, CGI holographic screens, and Goldfrapp’s appearance on the soundtrack will also remind you that you’re watching a film made in the early 2000s. And many will squeal when they spot Holland Taylor, over a decade before she came out, as the academy’s head.
Admittedly, the special effects are goofy enough to cross over into comedy, especially when our girls are abseiling into a restaurant or climbing walls with plungers, and the lighting could be charitably described as resembling teen soap operas of that era. But the chemistry between Amy and Lucy is crackling enough that YouTube compilations of their scenes have racked up hundreds of thousands of views online. Their fun enemies-to-lovers plotline begins with the pair pointing guns at each other and quickly progresses to a whirlwind romance (the other D.E.B.S. think Amy’s been kidnapped and launch a national manhunt, just as many friend groups have had to organize rescue missions for lesbians on weeklong first dates).
You could argue that espionage serves as a metaphor for the closet and that Amy is such an effective spy because she’s used to lying to herself about her sexuality. But that almost seems like too much weight to put on this meringue confection of a genre spoof: Its campiness liberates the characters to inhabit a fun, exaggerated universe with no serious homophobia or consequences. Guns are used, but the so-called superspies have such consistently terrible aim that there are no real casualties. And Lucy Diamond’s supposedly nefarious crimes are all reversible — the murders pinned on her are revealed to be misunderstandings, and she returns all of her stolen goods in order to win Amy back.
When this live-action Totally Spies with a lesbian twist debuted, it only made $97,000 and was dismissed by critics. But there were enough moviegoing gays impressed by its snappy dialogue, fun romance, and stunning supporting cast (including Meagan Good, Jimmi Simpson, and Devon Aoki with a French accent) for its reputation to grow online over time. In forums and YouTube comment sections, young girls were asking, “Are there any lesbian films where they just fall in love and have fun and don’t die at the end?” Their answer was D.E.B.S.
#D.E.B.S.#2004#Angela Robinson#LGBTQ+#Film#Queer joy#Criminally underrated#Cult classic#How is it#already 20 yrs later
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Happy Women's History Month!
Here's a list of films about Queer Women! 🏳️🌈
For every list I post there's always more films out there, Letterbox'd is a great place to find movies.
(This was supposed to be up yesterday for International Women's Day but I've been sick for while and don't know what day it is ✌🏼)
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Desert Hearts (1985)
The Women Of Brewster Place (1989)
When Night Is Falling (1995)
Fire (1996)
Bound (1996)
Set it Off (1996)
The Watermelon Woman (1996)
But I'm A Cheerleader (1999)
Mulholland Drive (2001)
Saving Face (2004)
Fingersmith (2005)
Imagine Me & You (2009)
Black Swan (2010)
Cloudburst (2011)
With Every Heartbeat (2011)
Pariah (2011)
The Guest House (2012)
Stud Life (2012)
Liz In September (2014)
Carol (2015)
La Belle Saison (2015)
The Girl King (2015)
Bessie (2015)
Lovesong (2016)
AWOL (2016)
Our Love Story (2016)
Below Her Mouth (2016)
The Handmaiden (2016)
Carmilla (2017)
The Feels (2017)
Disobedience (2017)
Professor Marston And The Wonder Women (2017)
Princess Cyd (2017)
The Favourite (2018)
Duck Butter (2018)
Tell It To The Bees (2018)
Vita & Virginia (2018)
Rafiki (2018)
Hearts Beat Loud (2018)
The Miseducation Of Cameron Post (2018)
Portrait Of A Lady On Fire (2019)
Elisa & Marcella (2019)
Booksmart (2019)
The World To Come (2020)
The Half Of It (2020)
My First Summer (2020)
Ammonite (2020)
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom (2020)
Fear Street Part One (2021)
Fear Street Part Three (2021)
Do Revenge (2022)
Beauty (2022)
#lgbt#lgbtq#lgbtqa#lgbtqia#queer#alphabet mafia#lesbian#lgbtq movies#sapphic#queer women#wlw#nblw#wlnb#lesbians#bisexual women#love is love#sapphic movies#lesbian movies#Women's History Month#international Women's day#lists
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Right? If you’re going to have an ot3 then really have one, stop being such a little bitch about it 😤
Dude on Twitter: don’t say we can just ship the three of them together, not everyone wants a woman added to their gay ship.
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but Meljayvik shippers aren’t adding Mel, they’re adding V*ktor.
#give me the cursed woman (1859) runeterra edition#give me professor marston and the wonder woman but with two guys and a girl#give me romance dammit
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#rogeeii#movie stills#professor marston and the wonder women#womder woman#movie recommendation#polyamory movie#polyamory
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Everyone should watch Professor Marston and his Wonder Women. I’m so shocked I’d never heard of this movie before and it was so good!
It’s about the creator of Wonder Woman (who also invented the lie detector), his wife, and his girlfriend. (The women are also girlfriends and I would argue their love story is the most central to the plot). It explores their struggles with being polyamorous starting in the 1920s, and discusses truth, shame, bondage, love, and more.
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