#pro-homeschooling

[pocket-size-cthulhu]

The #pro-homeschooling tag got me. You're right tho

If your child is born a clown, you've got to let them clown. You can't un-clown a child by prohibiting them from doing clown shit. You've just raised a clown that doesn't do anything.

[sasukesofficiallawyer]

Homeschool is insane. My first assignment of the year is to make a gay mpreg cartoon of trump and biden. I will be posting it on here once it’s finished and graded, don’t worry.

[oasisr]

Autistic people don't deserve to have the quirkiness and creativity bullied out of them in school.

[geekns]

You've got statistics about the number of abused children who were "homeschooled" there, not the number of homeschooled children who are being abused. Those numbers do not mean the same thing and you seem to be cherry-picking.

Here's some facts:

Abuse is always wrong.

Bullying is always wrong.

Homeschooling is not a form of abuse in itself. Homeschooled students are not isolated as a rule (especially in the modern internet age), but as an exception to the rule.

Torture and abuse are already illegal, whether a child is homeschooled or public schooled or charter schooled or private schooled, and abusive parents should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

In the USA all individuals are innocent until proven guilty: innocent parents should not be denied the right to educate their children in the way they see fit because some "homeschool parents" are abusive. This is a non sequitur. I shudder to think what "protections" you feel are needed, but I don't actually know what you believe, only that you are using some very inflammatory and emotionally worded imagery rather than critical thinking.

Not everyone who chooses to homeschool their children is religious or right-wing (in fact, from what I've observed, most religious people want their children to be proselytizing to their classmates!). There are many reasons a parent might choose to homeschool, including the fact that research suggests that it is a superior learning environment to a noisy, crowded classroom that ignores, nay punishes, some students' learning styles.

Homeschooling is a growing movement and is not going anywhere.

Not everyone who chooses to homeschool their children is abusive. Not everyone who chooses to send their children to public school is not abusive.

Your claims lack critical thinking, not mine. I could go on, but I won't.

Homeschooling is not the problem here. Abuse is. What is being taught in schools, topics that decent human beings don't want children to be exposed to, is also a very valid issue for people of many political and religious beliefs, and makes suppressing parents' rights a really astonishing hot take to have.

I have had tens if not hundreds of strangers come up to me in public and tell me that they recognize me as my mother's daughter and profess that her involvement in the homeschooling community has changed their life and their children's lives for the better. She's "just a SAHM" but her commitment to education and charity and volunteerism has changed thousands of lives for the better.

I will admit that you did not explicitly mention homeschooling in your OP, nor did you share any actual statistics. I am 100% allowed to have my own opinion and write discourse on it. I have no idea who you are and none of what I wrote was a personal attack. Unless your name is "you guys" and you are the one and only member of the entire group of people who are pro-MAP, pro-trans, pro-CRT, etc.

a lot of what i've noticed about the moral panic surrounding children among right wingers is it creates the exact sort of situation where child abuse thrives. you can't trust anyone but family. don't send your child to school. keep your child isolated from the scary outside world. tell me, who statistically is most likely to abuse the child? family, and children abused by families are likely to stay trapped in an abusive situation since they're dependent on their parents for survival. they're also likely to be shamed, accused of lying, and blamed for family problems. not everyone is safe at home, that's just the way it is. community support of children is what abusers fear so don't dare claim you care about victims while advocating isolation. the first person to tell me "the way your dad treats you is wrong, that's not normal" was not a family member...

there is still hope and kindness in the world and not everyone outside your home is your enemy

[autistic-ben-tennyson]

Why are all these annoying pro homeschool posts on that popped up on my dash made by pro life conservative Christians?!

More importantly, why do they always skip around the actual criticisms we have of these conservative homeschool groups? I didn’t always like school especially as an autistic youth but it allowed me to connect with queer/trans youth as someone who’s still figuring out who they are and start to educate myself on issues like the human rights violations by Israel that these homeschool types would have never taught because they threaten their worldview.

[xxshotgun-weddingxx]

i’ve been doing schoolwork for over 12 hours straight, kill me

[hopeful-bat]

love going on Instagram

[cotcweek]

Welcome to day five of Creek Week 2023!!

Todays prompts are your favorite...

[minecraftdog]

he is drinking now tho, right? he got drunk at that party and replied to someone with the christmas tree emoji

Yeah he does! Of course I can only guess he drank with sam now but there is very high chance that he did. And there is nothing wrong with drinking or not drinking, I just think how interesting it is how his perspective probably changed after he was freed from his self-imposed isolation

[karencarnahan]

What Are The Benefits Of Homeschooling?

Have you been considering homeschooling? Well, I am here with some advice to help you make this decision. I will not lie. It can be a lot of work. However, I feel it is well worth it. If you have a child who loses focus, this can be a win-win situation. Since it is self-paced, you get to set your child’s school day for however long or short they can focus. It is nice too because you can give…

[alien-insomniac-05]

As someone who was homeschooled, I second this 👆

I don’t know if I agree with homeschooling. I always found it doesn’t really expose kids to the real world and kind of teaches them to bubble wrap themselves from the rest of the world. Did you have a good experience being homeschooled and feel differently? (PS. This isn’t supposed to be an argument or a jab, just thinking about stuff!)

Well, in one sense, you are correct.

Homeschooling does not expose children to the evils of the real world before they are ready to comprehend them.

As a child, I was not exposed to porn, sex, drugs, bullying, verbal abuse from my peers, physical or sexual abuse from others, or authoritative abuse from adults.

Now, I'm not saying these things cannot/don't happen within the home. They do, and it's evil. However, there is a far lesser chance of them happening when you, the parent, are actively engaged in your child's life and education.

Instead, my childhood was one of love and support and growth. My interests were fed and developed, and my needs met both emotionally and intellectually by my parents who were both fully invested in my education and development.

My experience with homeschooling (as well as the majority of my friends') is that we were educated at a pace that was our own, many times a faster rate and higher level than our peers within public school. I normally finished all my "in the books" schooling for the day from 10am-1pm. Even so, when compared to my peers, I tested one to two "grades" higher than my age range.

My exposure to "real world" issues was monitored by my parents. I had discussions about what sex, marriage, racism, politics, government, abuse, and various other "real world" topics were at an age appropriate level that gradually advanced until I was about 17 yeas old.

As far as "real world" experiences go:

I volunteered at a hospital during my teenage years. I knew how to work and how to manage my money from the time I was fifteen. (First babysitting, then eventually retail.) I was in soccer as a kid and later did martial arts for ten years. I learned and talked politics with my family and other home schooled kids from the time I was fifteen. I had a class specifically titled "worldviews" in which I learned not only my Christian worldview, but about other religions and politics and current cultural events happening around us. I learned about puberty in a safe environment with all my questions answered and the comfort of understanding what was happening. I never had to deal with crude comments or abuse as a young girl.

I consumed media that was age appropriate and anything I encountered that I questioned or was unfamiliar with, I brought to my parents whom I trusted and would always discuss things with me in a mature manner.

I grew up with a consistent friend group that I trusted and still have to this day, though time has changed our dynamics and relationships. Currently, I'm quite content with my ability to make friends, socialize, and the number of friends I have.

My relationship with my parents was strong and held mutual trust. I was monitored as a small child, but gradually gained more independence as I got older and understood more about the world. If I had questions, I would bring them to my parents with no hesitation, embarrassment, nor fear. That relationship still remains, though now I'm a good number of years into adulthood.

Every challenge I faced growing up, I felt prepared for-- because my parents had taken the time to prepare me for it. In my education, work life, social life. If it was unfamiliar, I would bring it to them, but I rarely had to. I knew how to problem solve and think critically. I knew how to think things through and address adults and those in authority even if I was in an unfamiliar place. I could find my way around situations with little anxiety.

When it came time for college, I tested higher than average and was asked if I'd graduated in the top 5% of my class. I am now in an honors program and recently accepted into the highest ranked honors society across all majors in the country.

What real world experience does a child need that their parents cannot provide them when they actually invest in their children?

Society trains us into believing that a parent cannot provide their child with the education, development, and "experiences" they need. But what are these "experiences"?

Our media is flooded with horror stories and abuse victims of the public school system-- from burnt out teens, to abuse, to drugs and pregnancy, to anxiety attacks, to bullying, to pornography exposure.

What benefit does it give you as a parent or your child to hand them over into the hands of strangers (whom you're told to trust) for 8+ hours a day to sit in a chair and be lectured to with little to no expression or socialization with anyone outside of the classroom environment? They may sit in the same room as other peers (not allowed to move or talk), walk the same halls, eat in the same places, but they are not learning to properly engage with the world around them.

Children primarily interact with others their age during the day, and in what way is their conversations developing life skills that they need? Yes, they have friends and that is good. People need healthy friends. But a majority of the people they engage with are not their friends and they are not learning how to handle tough situations with individuals.

They are learning to judge one another, to morph and fit in, to avoid being bullied, to become the cutout that the government appointed educator approves of.

I always remind parents, schools don't just teach "abcs" and "123s". Schools form your children's entire foundation and worldview. The internet indoctrinates kids more than anything else once you let them have access to it.

Do you trust over 100 other children to have your child's well being and best interests at heart? Do you trust the government appointed official? Do you trust the internet?

Either you raise your kids; or someone else will.

You teach your child; or someone else will.

[yuurei20]

Hello hello. If I don't mind asking, what's this Crowley's fan theory rejecting Deuce's application for a Magical Wheel club about?

Hello hello!! Thank you for this question! (and apologies for the delay!)

Crowley's rejection of Deuce's application for a Magical Wheel club is one of many threads connecting back to a popular theory that Crowley is making the overblots happen on purpose!

It encompasses many things, such as the three light-magic users: Kalim's enrollment is particularly suspicious, as he received his letter of acceptance a month into what would become his first year at the school.

Jamil observes, "And just like that, my nice, free campus life went up in smoke."

Kalim was homeschooled prior to NRC and Jamil says, "Some days I just didn't want to go straight home after school" (where he would have to tutor Kalim, in addition to his other duties as Kalim's servant).

Did Crowley (or someone 👀) intentionally give Jamil those two months of freedom so that he would feel the loss of that freedom all the more acutely, contributing to his overblot?

The admissions process may have been more straightforward for Silver and I do not believe we have heard anything about Rook's, but both characters were, like Kalim, the catalyst to their respective housewardens overblotting:

It is Rook who convinces Vil to watch Neige's rehearsal (which is what finally compromises Vil's tentative mental stability, and it is Crowley who put Vil in charge of production for the VDC), and Malleus' overblot is immediately preceded by a conversation with Silver.

There is also Ruggie, who says (twice) that it is rare for people from his home to become mages and who had never attended a school prior to NRC. He is an odd choice for a prestigious magic academy.

He has also only become a "middling" student thanks to Leona's tutoring, and Leona's desire to help secure a future for students like Ruggie has a significant influence on Leona's overblot.

(A point that is emphasized in the novel: "I cannot let the pack starve.")

Crowley offers the choice of retiring Malleus from the tournament in Book 2 in a decision that the famously perceptive Vil says “reeks of unconscious bias.”

Crowley also goes out of his way to emphasize how many Savanaclaw students aspire to play in the Spelldrive Pro Leagues, how Savanaclaw has lost in the first round to Diasomnia two years in a row, and how it is affecting their future.

Leona points out that he seems to be telling them to quit while they are ahead because he expects them to make fools of themselves.

When Crowley denies this, saying, "That is not my intention," Leona asks, "Then what is?"

Is it possible that Crowley never intended to retire Malleus at all, but he knew that threatening to do so would be the final straw needed to push Leona into desperation? Making him desperate enough to contract with Azul, which connects directly to his destroying of Azul’s contracts to cover up the evidence, thus instigating Azul’s own overblot?

This also ties in to some interesting coincidences around certain school events:

Savanaclaw being paired against Diasomnia in the first round of the Spelldrive Tournament every year since Malleus enrolled?

The members randomly selected for the Starsending? For Glorious Masquerade?

(Idia: "How do three Housewardens just 'coincidentally' get drawn in a raffle? That box is rigged." - Trey: "The headmage claimed he used astrology to pick us...you don't think he was lying about that, do you?")

Have all these things been as coincidental as Crowley claims, or are the suspicions of students like Trey and Idia correct and there is more going on than it seems?

There is also the inconsistency of Crowley’s money-mongering.

Is he actually interested in perks like 10% of profits from Mostro Lounge and donations from Kalim’s and Idia’s parents, or is that just his cover-up to get Jack (and thus Leona) to interfere with Azul, and to get Kalim and Ortho to NRC?

Then there is Crowley's encouraging of Ace to battle Riddle, and it is not impossible for him to be the anonymous person who reported on the school's overblotters in Book 6.

Idia himself asks, "Could someone be inducing overblots on PURPOSE...?"

To return to the original question: Magical Wheels are a hobby that Deuce has in common with Epel, as both characters discover about each other in Book 5.

Epel and Vil bond (briefly) over a blastcycle in Epel's dorm vignette, and Deuce goes on a long monologue about the freedom of blastcycles to Ace:

"If you're ever feeling blue, you just get on a blaster and tune out the world...I haven't been able to since the first day of school."

This all ties back to an even wider theory about time loops: is Crowley reliving these scenarios over and over again, and granting Deuce and Epel the stress relief of a blastcycle club resulted in an undesirable ending?

If the freedom of their own club (and being able to confide in each other earlier on) resulted in them not going to the extremes that they did in Book 5 in order to escape Ace and Vil, it is possible that Deuce did not learn his unique magic in time to stop Vil.

And that fight on the beach that led to Deuce's UM? Was over a blastcycle!

To get Deuce and Epel down to that beach for that fight they had to be feeling stressed, trapped and desperate, to the point that they were willing to break campus rules (or were flustered to the point of forgetting the rules existed, in Deuce's case) to get there: and what better an opportunity than a long-awaited chance to finally ride one of the blastcycles they have both loved for years, but Crowley has been denying them?

No fight on the beach may have meant no UM for Deuce, which may have resulted in Vil winning the overblot fight and Crowley needing to reset the world in order to try again--and this time, without a Blastcycle club.

It is all theory and conjecture :> But very fun to think about!

[imissthembutitwasntadisaster]

Is anyone out here arguing that there are pros and cons to public schooling and homeschooling which depend a. On the actual methods of schooling used in both scenarios and b. On the child and what would be best for them? Or is it just me and the centrist goblin?

[aronarchy]

There is horrific unchecked child torture and isolation rampant in public school. What the fuck is wrong with you? How can you be so fucking callous that you’ll just straight-up fucking dismiss the school abuse survivors who were BEGGING people to fucking listen on that post? It IS NOT about public school just “not being perfect” (way to downplay it and implicitly strawman their points as unreasonable and frivolous) but SYSTEMATICALLY AND SEVERELY ABUSIVE AND VIOLENT IN LEGALIZED WAYS.

Do you not realize that thinking one’s abuse wasn’t “as bad” or “bad enough” and that other survivors must hate you for trying to speak up for yourself IS ONE OF THE MOST COMMON FEELINGS ABUSE SURVIVORS EXPERIENCE? How the fuck do you think it is in any way okay to try to actively make such feelings WORSE by ADVOCATING THAT THOSE ABUSERS’ POINTS OF VIEW WERE RIGHT.

I cannot imagine being this utterly fucking callous.

Good for you you weren’t abused in public school, acknowledge that you’re lucky. Now shut up.

public(/outside private) school apologists are always SO FUCKING TRIGGERING. when it comes from within youthlib spaces it feels like such a fucking betrayal. even if you experienced trauma from homeschooling THAT MEANS YOU SHOULD ABOLISH THE FAMILY TOO, NOT DO APOLOGIA FOR FORMALIZED/INSTITUTIONAL EDUCATION as if the grass is automatically greener on the other side (it’s not!). and so many adults treating it like it’s somehow radical now to say public schools are good and great and leftist institutions? what in the actual fuck?

it just sounds like people don’t fucking care about our years of trauma from abuse, coercion, indoctrination, and forced labor. especially those of us who are disabled. or how schooling usually acts as an additional vector for parents to abuse us.

absolutely disgusting. pro-public-school rhetoric absolutely should not fly in any youth liberationist spaces. if you are a child abuse apologist, of ANY variety, go away.

[eve-was-framed]

another school shooting in my state this time, and the worst part is that nothing is going to be done about it. the “pro life” conservatives will send their thoughts and prayers, will blame immigrants or liberals or people who send their kids to public school instead of homeschooling them, nothing will be done, they’ll completely forget about it and when it happens again they’ll do the same thing.

the parents of the kids killed will spend the rest of their lives advocating for change only to be told by the government to get over it and shut up, just like how they’re doing with the Uvalde parents.

america wants to force women to have kids all so that we can send them to school to be hunted for sport.

[manda-kat]

I'm honestly just tired of seeing people saying things like 'if Trump is elected, gay people will be put in camps and trans people will be murdered in the streets' when there is absolutely no fact behind the rumors and nobody wants that to happen.

While simultaneously these same people have happily said the following:

People without a covid vax should be put in camps

People who voted for Trump should be shot (seeing that A LOT right now)

Christian homeschoolers should have their children taken away

'Terfs' should be raped and murdered

People who don't respect pronouns should be beaten senseless in the streets

Pro life women should be raped

The only good Jew is a dead Jew

You aren't the hero. You aren't the brave rebel. You're the facist dictator. You're the one foaming at the mouth calling for murder when all we have been asking for for YEARS are the same basic freedoms we've been fighting for since this country was founded.

But I hope this is worth it for you because you will get your reward in the end.