#pro stefan salvatore

[chloesreality]

me watching an edit of Stefan and Elena was saying “this isn’t you” and then Stef said “STOP SAYING THAT”

then I went to the comments 😭

this cracked me up so hard

it’s giving “Were you silent or were you silenced”

actually bfrr though, have we actually watched the same show? literally stop it’s too funny now 🤭

[cerisia76]

I just realized something and I need to share it.

When it comes to Stefan haters, Stefan can't win. Because no matter what he does, it will be the bad choice for them. Even when he chose the other option in another context. Want it to be more clear?

I'm talking about two scenes that mirror each other where Stefan made the two choices he had.

When he pushed/tricked/forced Damon to be a vampire, not respecting what Damon wanted. His haters called him selfish.

And when he saved Matt in the s3 finale because he respected what Elena wanted, his haters said he didn't love her enough and Damon said he would have done the opposite. Yet he hated Stefan for centuries because he did the same thing to him.

Stefan haters generally love Damon and Damon can do no wrong. So Stefan keeping Damon alive even if he didn't want to is selfish and bad. But Damon keeping Elena alive even if she didn't want to is the proof that he loves her more than anything.

Which proves my point. With Stefan haters, logic doesn't exist as long as Stefan doesn't make the right choice. They will hate him for doing one thing AND hate him for doing the opposite later on. He just can't win.

And that's why I can't stand Stefan haters.

[xdarkeningkrystals]

It will always be criminal the way Stefan would be treated by the end of the show. TVD was also Stefan's story yet he gets sidelined and díes for Delena. The fact that Plague and Derides had no plans for Stefan in S5 before realizing "Ugh, I guess we HAVe to write him something" shows just how much they actually cared about him once Delena happened. Which is why I don't blame Paul for checking out

He deserved so much better. 💔

[illbdamned]

I know Damon is usually seen as this perfect, hot little wicked thing, but…

Stefan the Sweetheart : exquisite

Stefan the Ripper: exquisit-ER. Come here, you psychotic little twat 🥹

[helpimstuckinafandom]

I wish whoever made the decision to have Stefan die at the end of Vampire Diaries a very slow and agonizing die

[thefloatingwriter]

as much as i don’t like s4, stefan in s4??? that i can get behind.

[xeyesofstardust]

I swear, Stefan stans are the worst and are the reason this fandom is crumbling to dust.

They get on Reddit, look for people who don't worship the ground that St. Stefan walks on and start harrasing them.

This literately is happening to me on Reddit. Ane because of what you might ask? Because I had the audacity to say "I like Elena Gilbert."

Wow, just wow!

When they lost Endgame they took that shit personally and turned on Elena so fast. They went from liking Elena to hating her. Like hating her how you would hate that mean girl from high school.

It's sad and pathetic.

FYI If you're thinking of joining the The Vampire Diaries reddit page my advice to you is 'just don't.' It's full of pro Stefan and Caroline stans who are unhinged.

[nightzspring]

SJM 🤝 julie plec

turning tamlin and stefan into terrible people just to make delena and feysand happen

[feyres-divorce-lawyer]

haddie is complaining abt tvd again, i said oh i’m sure

[stargirlie25]

My top tvd ships (yall bouta be mad)

KLAYLEY: THE QUEEN AND KING

STELENA: MY PERFECT BABIESSSS (dont get mad at me delenas already endgame so chill)

KOLVINA: So perfect.

BENZO: DESERVED BETTER BUT I STILL STAN STEFAN

[chloesreality]

who tf looks at their boyfriend with this much awe?

ELENA GILBERT BITCHES 🤞

[bennett-mikealson]

TVD Stan’s go crazy when they see Tyler Stan’s and automatically assume we forgot the bad things he’s done or think we’re making excuses for his negative actions when in reality we don’t make excuses. we just know how to praise him as well and acknowledge his character development. They see one person saying something good about Tyler and all of a sudden it’s “so y’all don’t care about what he did to Vicki” or they bring up the delusional thought that he treated Caroline like crap; like what??? Most of y’all don’t even care about Vicki and nobody said we forgot what he did but we not about to keep bringing it up while talking about him when we wanna hear something good. Especially when other characters have done the same things he’s don’t and 10x worse but the same energy not kept with them. Then wanna bring up his anger issues like it’s a huge problem when other characters are 100+ and 1000+ year olds acting like children with issues they would of been worked out and would kill someone for the fun. Pls 🙄

[rockclimbinglover12107]

Elena and Katherine

Why does everybody in the fandom either hate Elena and love Katherine or vice versa, unless they ship Steferine and Delena.

I like both characters and although Katherine is by far my favourite of the two, I also have a soft spot for Elena and think that she got way too much hate.

Elena is constantly blamed for things that the Salvatores, who basically ruined her already miserable life by making it even worse and painting a target on her back for Katherine’s enemies, did in the first place.

She is also called boring by many people , including a load of Katherine stans, even though, in my opinion, she has quite a few interesting plotlines and had the most compelling backstory. I also think this is rich coming from Caroline and Bonnie fans, who like a teenage control freak who gets with every boy on the show and a dull witch who had barely any personality outside of her friends and having nosebleeds whilst chanting nonsense at some miscellaneous objects lying in a dark room.

On the other hand, some Elena stans like to complain that Katherine was completely evil and that her incredibly traumatic childhood could not justify having commitment issues and paranoia but then they turn around and say that Damon should be excused for hurting many girls because Katherine led him on over 100 years ago.

I just think that it’s unfair that Elena is vilified for her clear depression and Katherine is given barely any sympathy by anybody on the show, along with the fact that they are both constantly held accountable for other people’s ( mainly Damon’s ) mistakes. It also annoys me that the Salvatores get off scot free because they are hot and have bad parents, even being excused by the writers themselves and apparently having redemption arcs that never really happened.

Katherine and Elena had the potential to be friendly or at least civil with one another but they are pitted against each other as rivals by the show AND the fandom. This also annoys me because TVD has never been able to make realistic female friendships well.

In conclusion, Katherine and Elena should have been pals and the Salvatores should have driven wooden stakes through their own hearts.

[purpleruinsprincess]

It hits even harder when you realise that Elena took Caroline's side when Stefan and Caroline were fighting in season 6. At that point Elena was definitely closer to Stefan than to Caroline.

Watching a Stelena video from one of my fave Stelena YouTubers and this is no hate to her at all (I love that video and we’re moots on twitter), but when I saw that one scene (again) in 4x07 where Caroline is like "no, he’s heartbroken" and clearly taking Stefan's side over Elena's, I just…

Like Elena and Caroline aren’t best friends, not in the slightest, but they’ve known each for most of their lives and for Caroline to take Stefan's side over Elena's instead of being there for both of them annoys me.

Caroline can be there for Stefan and Elena at the same time. She doesn’t have to take sides.

[laughtosmilex]

rating tvd characters because i’m out here struggling with this show (up to s5)

for context: i’ve had this love-hate relationship with tvd since i was 12. now that i’m grown and not blinded by insignificant storylines and attractive 30-year-olds playing teenager roles, i’m rewatching and struggling. and i’m taking y’all with me.

elena gilbert, 1/10

- banal

- whiny

- bad acting, got like two facial expressions

- annoying

- tries to be cool and tough, but to me she’s just cringe 99% of the time

- i don’t give her 0 just because she’s rarely funny and active (= not being a damsel in distress or a living ingredient for some witchcraft shit)

stefan salvatore, 7,5/10

- boyfriend material

- love s1 stefan

- kind and caring, excluding the ripper personality

- comes up with good plans

- a lot of different phases of life, maybe too many

- transformative arch’s a bit confusing (up to this point), like one step forward and two steps back

- sometimes i feel like punching him in the face

- still i have a soft spot for him

damon salvatore, 5,5/10

- king of bad decisions

- ridiculously down bad (relatable)

- comes up with either shit plans or excellent plans that resolve in the worst way possible

- funny and charismatic, but very moody

- cinic to say the least

- he doesn’t sit right with me, i don’t hate him tho

- still very iconic

caroline forbes, <3/10

- cute

- kind

- witty

- adorable

- does everything for her loved ones

- her smile lights up the world

- the show did her dirty since episode 1

- she owns my heart

- i can make you happy, caroline, i swear

bonnie bennett, 10/10

- underrated

- powerful af

- brave

- strong

- selfless

- the show did her dirtier than caroline

- always sacrificing everything for other people

- i love witches in tvd

katherine pierce/katerina petrova, 4/10

- stereotypical

- manipulative

- annoying

- selfish

- her favourite singer would probably be ariana grande or something like that

- but she got flaws too

- she’s funny tho

- i like her at times, rare times

(ni)klaus mikaelson, 7/10

- i would’ve given 10/10 when i was younger, but i have to rethink about that

- psychopath

- his whole family stuff is just creepy and somewhat nonsense

- “man, i love my family. what did you say, brother? i have to do the dishes?” *stabs you and puts you in a casket for 900 years*

- curb your millenary creature flirting with a 17-year-old

- pros: powerful, fascinating, charming, poetic, british accent

- i wish i could hear him call me “love”, just for once

- hybrid (they’re cool)

matt donovan, 2/10

- give me a chair, because i can’t stand you

- if “i won last place” was a person

- he’s just boring and very mean at times

- i’m sorry that his life sucks so bad tho

tyler lockwood, 4,5/10

- s1 tyler was asking to be kicked in the balls

- totally unbearable

- however his character grew so much and i’m glad

- i know i said hybrids are cool, but i liked him better when he was just a werewolf

- he went back to being intolerable when he was sired to klaus, but it wasn’t entirely his fault

- i’m mixed on this

- nah, he broke caroline’s heart, so fuck him

jeremy gilbert, 9/10

- let’s ignore s1 jeremy, shall we?

- from emo teen to kick ass hunter

- lovely

- strong

- brave

- i can’t help being drawn to him every time he’s in a scene

- i don’t have anything else to say, i like him, period

[kiss-my-freckle]

Stefan and Elena are written in a huge season to season parallel. Season three Stefan is written alongside season two Elena. The only thing Stefan does over the summer is give Elena time to fall in love with Damon. That's why season three ends up back where they left off in 2x21. These are the parallels...

Elena makes a deal with Elijah. Elena daggers Elijah.  Elena un-daggers Elijah. Elena reestablishes her deal with Elijah. 

Damon & Stefan prepare to war against Klaus. Stefan makes a deal with Klaus.  Stefan is free from Klaus. Damon & Stefan prepare to war against Klaus.

Stefan's entire summer spent with Klaus is written alongside Elijah's time in the Salvatore cellar. That's why he's ripping up and down the eastern seaboard. He should've taken Klaus' deal, got Damon the cure, then broke the deal and prepared for war. When Rose spoke to Elena about her deal with Elijah, about her giving up instead of choosing to fight, that’s exactly what Elena did. But that’s also exactly what Stefan did. 

Because Stefan chose to honor his deal with Klaus, Elena becomes a vampire in 3x22 opposite her remaining human in 2x21. The sire bond is specific in the fact that relationships take two people. So while Elena spent the second season demanding both brothers do things her way, she has to do the same in the fourth season. Stefan has no problem being her lapdog, Damon prefers an actual relationship. The difference between one making the choice for both, and both making the choice together. Stefan and Elena choose for each other rather than choose together, which is the reason they don't work. Elena chose for Stefan in season two, Stefan chose for Elena in season three. Damon didn't get her respect by respecting all of her choices, but by being an equal partner. Anyway, that’s one of the pros of the sire bond. 

Fans believing Stefan left town with Klaus to save Damon are kidding themselves. He left town because he thought he could stop Klaus from finding out Elena survived the ritual. The point of Elena’s text to Stefan in 2x22. Damon is okay because he was meant to be given the cure. Elena is not because she was meant to die in the ritual. Stefan drank blood bags to save Damon, then left town to protect Elena. Because he chose to play martyr for both, and without allowing them a choice in the matter, he chose to give them a future together. 

Make no mistake, the final season justifies the past. Stefan dies for his brother as he should've done in 1864 instead of forcing him to turn. It was supposed to be just Stefan becoming a vampire, it will be just Stefan who takes Katherine to Hell. It was supposed to be just Damon with Elena, but Stefan had a problem letting her go. Because he had a problem letting her go, he set everything in motion in the third season. From Elena becoming a vampire straight through Silas’ storyline. Silas’ storyline merely picks up where Klaus left off. In order for him to be a witch, he’d have to drain Elena just as Klaus did during his ritual. But Katherine gets force-fed the cure because she skated on her role in Klaus’ ritual. It’s all fate and circumstance. 

Fans can say Stefan deserved this or Stefan didn’t deserve that, but that’s not how life works. Men aren’t actually entitled to the women they save, and sometimes love happens even when you don’t want it to. Elena could’ve fought her feelings for Damon for the rest of her life. Wouldn’t stop her from being in love with him. According to fans, Elena was supposed to stay with Stefan all the while being in love with Damon simply because she was terrified of losing her best friend. And I’m quite sure Damon didn't just wake up and say, “Hey, I think I’ll fall in love with Elena today.” He fell in love with Elena because he’s just as “human” as Stefan, and girl has all the right qualities.