#pro lore Olympus

[mistress-of-vos]

I'd make a longer post (and maybe one day I will) but since Lore Olympus, the story that introduced me to webtoons is coming to an end I'd like to say something:

I can't believe it is considered problematic. It has to be one of the sweetest, fluffiest, simplest stories I have read (hence why I still like it, it's a relaxing read before bed) and somehow it got too "kinky" for mainstream. It's laughable.

Everytime I dare to click on their tag or look for the # on Twitter or FB I see people clutching their pearls as if Lore Olympus were brainwashing teenagers into marrying a non existent God of the dead and have babies with him. What the hell?

The fact that people think LO is too dark makes me laugh. A single episode of Rick&Morty, BoJack Horseman or HQS has way more explicit content and dialogue. In fact!!! If it were up to me LO would have gotten genuinely kinky!!! All it does is have some surface spicy tropes that get sugar coated to not make puritans awkward and tbh that's sad. LO and the author get terribly hated anyway for daring to portray the most common female fantasy.

And this all makes me laugh but also mad because you'd think LO at least has some genuine dark themes but no? At most we have Persephone's trauma due to Apollo's abuse and yet that topic is treated as a therapy pamphlet because people couldn't handle an imperfect victim. Hades is a wife guy who shows little to no anger. Hera was re written to be sort of a feminist so that people stopped being annoying about women having emotions.

LO is a sweet, simple story with tiny spicy things here and there that were eventually pushed aside because people couldn't handle it. I wonder how Rachel feels about this, because at the beginning the story was extremely spicy and the only crime was being published in a platform as webtoon, full of people who can't differentiate reality from fiction.

Is LO a masterpiece? Idk! I enjoy the story, it's very self indulgent for me, but I won't go and analyze every detail to see how it should be labeled as it's not meant to be a perfect media. It's meant to be an entertaining, nice story of romance and it does that job very well. This need to demand perfect writing while also crucifying authors over "dark" themes is ridiculous and contradictory.

And I keep wondering, if these people loathe LO so much, why dedicate all that time to the infinte posts they make about how they would have told the story? And all those re tellings are boring! It's always "So Persephone and Hades won't ever kiss here because she's a lesbian. Also he doesn't appear at all. And Demeter isn't an abusive mom! Oh and everyone is ugly because gods shouldn't be beautiful! And Apollo isn't evil he's uwu baby. And no toxic relationships here, Zeus is a good husband!"

Sweet Gaia, you guys wouldn't handle Saint Seiya having Athena in the body of a teenage girl with big tits and who's constantly in the edge of breaking her virginity vows. This attitude screams of jealousy and puritanism and both are disgusting.

TLDR: LO being too problematic for people is both funny and annoying. I wished it actually were as kinky and dark as people insist it is. I'd pay for a toxic romance, but that being said, I LOVE it very much as it is and it's nice to have a re telling that, while not pretending to be loyal to mythology, didn't go for a route of sanitizing all the myths. I hope that once it ends haters will move on and let real fans and the author alone. 🙏

[peach-jupiter]

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[museit]

My thoughts on Lore Olympus right now.

This series, just like any other, is art retold by different people, and you love it or hate it, that's fine. But we don't need to dunk on it just because it's not the exact retelling of the OG mythology or it doesn't meet the requirements or standards fans place it. We are separate from the original mythology by removing the incestuous nature and other attributes that the original myths may have had that impacted the story in a way that it was difficult to decipher. Lore Olympus is a modern retelling if the concept of older gods were modernized, like in our society with the complexities that make perfect, untouchable beings flawed or have flaws. Sort of in a way of making them human in sense. Giving feelings and thoughts to beings whom we never known to have any beside what was told to us in ancient times.

If people are going to critique this series as a whole, It needs to be with a neutral opinion or unbiased comments on what Lore Olympus got right and what needed to be fixed or corrected. This includes characters, character design, narrative, story pacing, and presentation of each character's personalities, which are shown with depth and quality. Not bashing on the author or any authors who decide they want to put a spin on an old story.

All media on the mythology is not perfect and was never gonna be to begin with. We'll all add a bit or piece of our own narrative into media that we find fascinating. Personally, I don't even watch the videos that pop up on YouTube because it doesn't give a good commentary video on Lore Olympus. Either saying it's terrible or the worse retelling and harping on it without actually giving good pointers on why they hate it so much. It should be about the pros and cons towards good storytelling, and if we need to make fan work to create artistic expression, then so be it. If not that, then what would be the point of reading, playing, or watching media based on mythology of different cultures in the first place? Including this one.

[smolandweirdwriter]

hate trying to write/read romance bc it’s either super healthy and i know some idiot on the internet is gonna call it toxic, or super toxic and some idiot on the internet is gonna call it healthy

[museit]

Hey, this may have anti-lore tags on it, but please here it out by checking out the the fan work from this artist's interpretation of LO.

( I am working towards giving the benefit of doubt and be a neutral party between anti and pro lore olympus. Hell, even any fandom.

Please do not give any hate to the artist as it is just their interpretation of the story told by many other franchises. Be responsible and respectful with your words towards others. We all came here because we all read the same thing. Thank you for understanding. - Muse it )

LORE | REKINDLED - MASTER POST (READ BELOW!)

LORE | REKINDLED is a fan project dedicated to the S1/Pilot era of Rachel Smythe's Lore Olympus. Rekindled will attempt to re-interpret and reconstruct the foundations laid by Rachel Smythe in S1 of Lore Olympus' publication, while also remaining true to the themes and messages of the original myths upon which Lore Olympus is based.

We hope you enjoy this re-interpretation of The Hymn of Demeter - also known as The Rape of Persephone - expressed through the lens of a fan re-interpretation of Lore Olympus. Made by the fans, for the fans.

Disclaimer: This is a non-profit fan project drawn and written by @genericpuff. All brushes, textures, and font packs used to replicate Lore Olympus' art and style are sourced legally, and panel art is created from the ground up. All Lore Olympus-relevant character designs and branding belong to Rachel Smythe. All interpretations of Greek characters, mythologies, and themes are purely fictional and should not be used in any factual sourcing when researching Ancient Greek material.

EPISODE LIST

EPISODE 1 - DEATH WALKS ALONE | EPISODE 2 - TIGHT FIT | EPISODE 3 - OVERLY ATTACHED | EPISODE 4 - PICK YOUR POISON

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[rosietrace]

This is a personal rant about my thoughts on Greek mythology retellings, and just the way Fantasy books and the publishing industry is at this point 🧍‍♀️

I have nothing against Greek mythology retellings, or just anything Greek mythology related in fantasy in general!

However, I have certain gripes about the way Greek mythology is portrayed in media, specifically in the way its interpreted in Fantasy.

[ More under the cut! ]

I love Percy Jackson, and I think that Uncle Rick did a wonderful job at expanding the world and making Greek, Roman, Egyptian, and Norse mythology entertaining and easily digestible for young audiences. Genuinely, he does a better job at writing children's books than R*wling could ever be capable of.

However, as much as I can love PJO as much as I do, I still find certain bits of the world building and character writing as... Very hit and miss.

To start, I don't like the way Ares was written in the series. I can understand that it would make sense for his personality to be that way, because he's the God of War and it helps with Clarisse's character development; but I find fault in it because Ares in the myths is nothing like PJO Ares. (He literally killed one of Poseidon's sons because he raped his daughter, Alcippe, and he's one of the only gods who doesn't hump anything that can breathe in air. At least Ares has the courtesy of asking for consent 💀)

The Gods being the reason behind WWII and Hitler being a child of Hades. All I must say.

The portrayal of the Aphrodite cabin

The fact that Athena can have children. Annabeth, pjo fandom at large, I love you are, but you gotta admit it must've felt weird when you first read the books and you find out Athena — the maiden Goddess of Wisdom — can have offspring. Regardless of the reasoning, I still find it weird 😭 (EDIT: I've now just remembered that it was a reference to how Athena herself was created 🤡 I'm a clown)

I get that the Hermes cabin is also the cabin for the unclaimed, but couldn't have Hestia's cabin worked too? She doesn't have offspring, sure, but it probably would've made more sense for the unclaimed to go to Hestia's cabin so that the Hermes cabin wouldn't be so crowded

This isn't really a world building issue, but I think I should bring it up: I'm not saying this against the Kane Chronicles fandom, but... Sadie and Anubis. Why. Like you can't convince me that no one WASN'T weirded out by that.

Less of a complaint and more of a question because I can't remember if the question was answered in HoO or not, but when Percy told the Gods to start claiming their unclaimed children and be more decent parents (as he should, go off king), did that request apply to the Romans at Camp Jupiter too? Because that's gotta have been confusing when the unclaimed kids at CP suddenly started getting claimed 😭😭

I could go on a whole ass tangent about PJO, but that would make this post longer than it needs to be 😭😭 and any of the points might not make much sense, since I haven't read the books in a LONG time

Off to the YA Fantasy segment... Hoo boy.

The oversaturation of Hades/Persephone retellings makes me SEETHE. Why is it always Hades and Persephone why can't it be something else 😭

I just don't like the “modern feminist” retellings of Greek myths in the YA Fantasy genre, in general. They tend to completely miss the point of the original myth, and it's the case with a lot of Hades and Persephone retellings where they try to paint Hades as the good guy taking Persephone away from her control freak mother, Demeter.

Because that wasn't what the myth was about. The myth isn't a love story, at least, not a romantic one. It was about Demeter's love for Persephone and how much she wanted her daughter back after Hades stole her away. Keep in mind, in the historical context of the myth, the daughters of women in ancient Greece never really get to see their mothers after their engagements are solidified.

If they wanted to make a “feminist” retelling of the myth, they'd have it centered around the love Demeter had for Persephone to almost doom the mortal realm to an eternal winter to get her back.

I love the myth of Hades and Persephone, truly, I do. I understand the appeal it has on people, the appeal it has one me. I can see why people adore the myth in the way they do because Hades is one of the better husbands in Greek mythology (a low bar, but my point still stands).

Personally, I blame Lore Olympus and especially the video of the myth by Overly Sarcastic Productions for the way the myth is portrayed in mass media. And I say this as a former LO fan and a fan of Overly Sarcastic Productions 😭

I'd also want to go into my many, MANY gripes about “Crown of Starlight” by Cait Corrain, but in all honesty? I don't think I can properly convey how much I DESPISE Cait and their book. So I'd highly recommend y'all to check out the videos about Cait Corrain by Reads With Rachel, WithCindy, and Xiran Jay Zhao on YouTube if you're interested in going into more detail about the controversies, especially for those who weren't made aware of it.

I feel like the publishing industry just... Isn't good anymore, after Booktok went viral. Reading has been “hot girlified”, and all Booktok seems to ask when they get recommended a book is: “Is it spicy??”

Reading is like fast fashion, now. It's all based around certain popular tropes that that's how books are promoted now. Not for the plot — or sometimes lack thereof — but for the tropes the book has.

The only thing I can thank Booktok for is that they helped me discover The Cruel Prince. And even then, it's marketed as romance on there, when it's a political fantasy with a romance subplot.

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I, personally, don't read — nor do I like — Sarah J Maas. (Especially considering the problematic aspects of her storytelling, character portrayals, and is (apparently, correct me if I'm wrong) a Zionist)

However, that isn't to say that I don't like some of the characters she makes. A lot of them have potential, actually! From what I've seen, I think Nesta, Gwyn, Azriel, Eris, Tamlin and Lucien from ACOTAR are the only characters I actually like, based on what I've heard — and seen — on anything in the SJM critical tag on this hellsite.

And while we're at it, let's discuss the elephant in the room with ACOTAR, right? Rhysand.

By all that is good and holy, I hate Rhysand so much and I think I'd hate him even more if I actually READ the books. I don't get why Booktok is so invested in him when Maas retconned Tamlin's character to make him look better as Feyre's love interest.

Also, from what I recall, didn't Rhysand sexually assault Feyre? And he didn't bother to apologize for it, and justified it with his sad tragic backstory??

I can't with y'all, istg 😭 the fact that “Feysand” is apparently a Hades and Persephone retelling too makes me even more mad about it because it isn't even a GOOD retelling. It just takes away what ACOTAR originally was— a Beauty and the Beast retelling, with Feyre and Tamlin as the leads.

Didn't Maas dedicate ACOTAR to her husband because “He would go under the mountain” for her??? BECAUSE IT CERTAINLY WASN'T RHYSAND WHO SAVED FEYRE FROM UTM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT

I think, out of all the series Maas has made thus far, Throne of Glass is the only one I ACTUALLY kind of like, based on what I've heard. Crescent City seems to be too complicated to understand, and even though I've never read it myself, I miss what ACOTAR could've been. (My hope lies with Nesta, Elucien and Gwynriel, at this point)

[demeterdefence]

apollo: yeah helios is mega jacked sunbeam strong only other sun gods can withstand his heat

thanatos: burnt more or less to a crisp after twenty minutes of being in helios' presence

MY GIRL DEMETER:

[starlightbooklove]

Something I've started thinking about for a while now is how much Hades and Persephone from Lore Olympus feel like an extension in another universe of Feysand.

And tell me about something more convenient, because as most of us know, they are a retelling of Hades and Persephone, when I hear that, I think of Lore olympus of that retelling of the myth, because they have so many similar things, in addition to everything crucial about the Underworld and that.

(I REPEAT, THE LORE OLYMPUS VERSION)

Because they are also a very healthy couple who have a lot of weight on their shoulders as rulers, they also have traumas that they continue to deal with while in the relationship (you see what I mean) they help each other, they love each other in the most beautiful way and they fall into problems without even looking for them 😭🤣

They are very different in various aspects of their personality, obviously, they are just similarities, it is not that they are the same, but their relationship, the whole aesthetic of stars and sky that both stories have, and How similar Rhys and Hades are, it's just very... Connected, it's the only word I can find xd.

I'm not looking to compare the stories or anything like that, so don't come with that. I'm just analyzing it as a fan of both ships/books.

I stick to the evidence:

Cause thiiiss...

Gives same energy that this:

And i love it

[remy-freya]

This was drawn a year and a half ago while I was in recovery for a hysterectomy surgery and was in bed, recovering. I was stressed because I was brand new to a new store in my old hometown (not to the company, just the location of the company), my parents had passed away that year so I had no one but my husband and my brother for immediate moral support, I didn't know my new work mates.. and I had just moved into my mom's and my old childhood home.. hence drawing Hades... Looking stressed the heck out.. which was me in a nutshell. Stressed and in pain lol.. sigh.

Thankfully, a year and a half later, there is less stress and less pain. And my workmates and I are very close now 😊 And I am on hormone pellets now so less stress soon too! Menopause sucks!

[captain-of-the-gwynriel-ship]

Z & I for the ask game, feeling spicy!

hahahaha

I: Has Tumblr caused you to stop liking an fandoms, if so which and why?

So I have been in love with Lore Olympus since almost the beginning (I believe there were 20 or so chapters out when I found it on webtoons). The tumblr fandom is so toxic that honestly I just stay in my little corner of happiness and just enjoy it with my bf every saturday instead. I used to be a big part of the fandom and was a very active player in the discord but I just couldn't keep up with all the drama and all the petty comments that I like to stick to myself now. I still support artists who draw fanart on instagram but that's about it.

Z:Whats a ship that you want to ship publicly, but everyone on tumblr hates it so you keep your mouth shut about it?

Honestly I am pretty open about who I ship. I guess gwynriel is the most "volatile" ship but the e/riel vs gwynriel part of the fandom is volatile in general. Given my username, I have no problem with shipping it publicly. If I like something, I won't be afraid to say it. I also really enjoy Quinlar and I know that some people are pretty against it. Sucks to suck for them though

[carcinogenical]

Minthe fanart because she is the only character that isn't annoying AF in lore olympus . I am pro evil slut . Go away Rachel Smythe

[ot3]

lore olympus for my troll question (you have to answer this). mirai nikki for my second troll question (you also have to answer this). disney channel original movies for my real question (you also have to answer this one too)

lore olympus: 'never apologize for being sicilian' is a memorable quote in a way many lesser works could strive to deliver and never quite manage to. it was concocted perfectly to deliver the humor of that statement without even trying

mirai nikki: i dont even know what to say here. ive seen two episodes of mirai nikki. thank you to mirai nikki for doing formative work for yanderes i guess? im pro yanderes ultimately. i think girls should be allowed to enjoy themselves

disney channel original movies: one of the best pieces of animated television of all time aka phineas and ferb the movie: across the 2nd dimension was a disney channel original. we owe them everything.

[smolandweirdwriter]

He’s in love and he deserves it- I don’t care about anything else

[genericpuff]

the Underworld is the only godly realm that was built on capitalism

So what's Olympus built on? Socialism? Are the gods and nymphs there living the good life compared to their underworld counterparts? Are Zeus and Hera good monarchs even if they're not good people? Or is it just bad in a different way?

Olympus does still participate in capitalism to a degree (especially considering that they do a lot of buying and selling between the Underworld, ex. Kore isn't the only one who travels for work between realms) but the realm was originally built on offerings and bartering which is a tradition that's still maintained between the gods themselves - and it's a big reason why they care for the mortals at all, because without their prayers and offerings, the entire foundation of their realm and the gods' status as rulers would crumble.

So in that way, the gods in power - aside from Hades who is an exception we'll touch on in a second - don't really care about the societal institutions of money, because money just doesn't really serve any function for them that the mortals' offerings - and their own abilities as gods - aren't already providing them. The capitalist system that exists in Olympus is more so to serve the residents who aren't being actively worshipped, such as the nymphs and satyrs (though some are lucky to gain recognition in ways that benefits them through offerings) and for budding gods who don't have as much influence in the Mortal Realm yet (such as Kore).

That said, there are plenty of complaints to be made about Hera and Zeus regardless of the economy that exists within Olympus, buuuut we'll be getting into those issues later ;3 As for the quality of life of Olympus vs. the Underworld, there are pros and cons to both, as with any economic system. The Underworld has a bit of a steeper divide between the rich and poor, but living in Olympus comes with the caveats of being in Zeus' territory where life can be... unpredictable, to say the least. BUT the Underworld being built on the free market has provided it with unique advantages through their technological advancements (ex. the existence of cars and cellphones in both realms is largely owed to the Underworld); whereas Olympus has greater access to the resources of the gods themselves due to literally being the home of the King of the Gods who everyone tries to keep in their good graces.

We've seen a mini example of this bartering system already back in Episode 56: Hera telling Kore she was going to help her with her garden wasn't just the Queen dishing out orders, she was telling Kore that gardening would be a sufficient enough trade for having her in her home and feeding her.

She's not offering to feed Kore for free (which WOULD be an honor coming from the Queen), she's telling her "I'll provide you with the company of royalty and good food / wine / etc. in exchange for your gardening services." (that said, it is still sort of a high honor in and of itself considering Hera wouldn't let just anyone tend to her property ;3)

But that brings us to the exception - Hades. The Underworld had to be built on a different system due to many of its gods and goddesses not being commonly worshipped, so offerings and tributes were hard to come by. For Hades especially, how was he supposed to earn the favors of mortals when they wouldn't even dare speak his name? This led to him having to build the Underworld on the value of specific resources - such as the minerals and metals and gemstones found in the Underworld itself - which were later refined into common currency that's now used across the realms.

Fun fact, this is also why Kore is ticked off that the Underworld costs a toll to enter for both shades and gods alike - because there isn't a toll booth to get into Olympus.

The Underworld has truly mastered the art of microtransactions LMAO

To wrap up this fun lil' lore dump, there's a WIP scene I have on the back burner that goes into greater detail on Olympus' bartering systems but I haven't had the chance to work it naturally into the story yet, I'm hoping it'll be included in an upcoming episode soon but it's basically a cute lil' shopping sequence between Persephone, Artemis, and Daphne :' )

(enjoy these never before seen sketches of Daphne sporting Y2K-style fashion LMAO)

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