#pre series wincest thoughts

[hisbrotherskeeper]

John doesn’t know what size clothes Sam wears. Stopped buying them years ago.

Dean is the one taking Sam to thrift stores and shoplifting sweatshirts from Walmart when Sam is in school. Dean buys them big—room to grow.

He’s the one feeding his little brother anyhow, and can sense it in his bones that Sam will keep on growing like a weed, bigger than him, bigger than John. Better than them, too, he thinks. Sam’s different and good and full of potential and that scares Dean as much as it makes him proud.

[peachywincest93]

I think when Sam is around 14 or 15 and is going through puberty he starts to experience major gender envy and large part of that has to do with Dean. He sees the girls Dean picks up from the bars. He sees their big bouncy curls and their low rise jeans that hug their hips just right, their flat toned stomachs, and their perfect cleavage hidden behind thin lacy tops and well he can't help but feel jealous. Maybe if he looked like that dean would notice him more, see him as smth other than his dorky little brother. So what if he starts buying jeans just a size too small and wearing them low on his hips, so what if he starts wearing mascara on his long doe like lashes and growing out his already long shaggy bangs, and so what if after months he finally musters up the courage to nic a pair of white lace panties from a small boutique in some no name time. It's not like Dean would notice anyways. Right?

[incesthemes]

Wincest Wednesday Asks

i started compiling this list for myself as a reference, but since @stanfordsweater is making a whole event of it, i thought i could share it! please feel free to add on with other questions you can come up with!!!

favorite season?

favorite episode?

favorite era of the show? (kripke, gamble, carver, dabb)

any specific headcanons for [X] thing in canon?

YOUR pick for the Most Incestuous Episode Award?

what's one way you think dean died in mystery spot that wasn't shown?

do you have a preference between wincest, weirdcest, or gencest?

favorite au/trope/setting for wincest?

who kissed who first? alternatively: who made the first move?

when would they finally hook up? (specific season/episode? pre-series? post-canon?)

would sam or dean be more likely to get pregnant, and when is the best season for him to get pregnant?

weirdest place they've fucked?

stupidest place they've fucked?

"john finds out" OR "john has always known/encourages them"

how does john react to their relationship? (alternatively: how does mary react to their relationship?)

do you include any other characters in your wincest? (wincestiel, samdeanjack, the whole dang winchester family, etc)

how do you see their soulmate relationship? any headcanons?

sam and dean's favorite books? (stealing from @according2thelore)

sam and dean's favorite movies?

if they had a movie night, what film would they watch and what snacks would they make/buy? (bonus: pre-bunker or bunker era or both)

[ani-coolgirl]

Halloween fics

Happy Spookoween, everybody! Thought I'd share a few of my dark and Halloween-themed fics from my catalogue wincest to celebrate the holiday!

067 - intrusive, M, 1k: My Every First Time entry for episode 04x07, It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester. Takes place on the holiday, and is a bit of a grim look into post-Hell Dean's head.

In White, With a Touch of Red, T, 2.5k: Written for a October 2023 Halloween prompt. Minor Pilot AU where Sam is dressed up in Jess's nurse costume when Dean breaks in. More depressing than the summary would imply!

Cuckoos in Glass Houses, E, 16k: Modern normal AU where Sam comes home for summer break to stay with his family, including his step-brother Adam... who might be more than he seems. Probably one of the few things I've written I'd classify as genuine horror, and easily my favorite fic of all time.

Presence, E, 30k: My 2021 Wincest Big Bang fic. Pre-series AU where Dean dies on a hunt while Sam's at Stanford. A ghost story and a love story.

Where I Lay My Head, E, 38k: My 2024 Wincest Reverse Big Bang fic (sort of). Darkest of the lot, and involves a lot of Sam suffering. Warnings for non-con and torture.

I hope you all have a spooky (and safe) Halloween! In between chowing down on candy, make sure to check those salt lines!

[goshen-applecrumbledore]

roni i am truly sitting here wondering about the full house implications ur mentioning in the john finds out fic..... pls i'm going crazy..... the only way i've personally ever considered writing john finds out conceptually is exploring the way it contradicts john's idea of masculinity and family. i think about the guilt complex he'd form about it--about making dean that way in particular. i think about what he'd think of sam with respect to his impurity/demon blood. would he then think it an inherent quality of them, inevitable; or else something he catalyzed? i think about how alienating it would be, then, to have sam and dean so wrapped up in each other and for him to have lost mary and hardly even have his boys.... i wonder about what this would do in his head and exploring the emotionally incestuous thoughts and dynamics that would continue to manifest. intrigued to see what would happen in your fic with the deanjohn vs. samjohn dynamic since deanjohn is mostly what people focus on (it's boring to me!!! matryoshka dolls aside). i find the the relationship between the three of them far more fascinating--the way john is a point of contention between the boys and the ways the boys are two representative pieces of john that pull at him. i've always been more interested in a nonsexual emotionally incestuous relationship between the three of them (as in canon) over the outright sexual dynamics i tend to explore in wincest but i am fascinated and excited to see what you do.

other things i think about when i brainstorm john finds out: would he be disappointed in dean, or is dean taking care of sammy? is this another way sam is meant for evil? is this a way to tether sam to good, to family, to humanity, by keeping him close? what would this do to him with respect to his orders to dean at the time of his death? i'm constantly tinkering with the answers to these questions and i think that the answers are different levels of affirmative and contradictory--true winchester fashion <3

hello! I definitely think--and I say this as a good thing--you have thought about this more intricately than I have at this point. which has given me some exciting things to think about

here's what I know about how I'd like to write a John finds out + Full Wincest thing, without giving too much away because it is a real story I'm writing and I'd like people to be excited by any twists or reveals

the crux of the thing I want to explore is mostly like... the way people (john) are capable of blanking out or refusing to think about things that are too catastrophic to acknowledge directly. and, also in john: how when you run your family like a drill sergeant, your kids might respect you and stay in line, but you'll never really KNOW them, and how tragic that is.

the other angle is very much his interactions with Sam-- john not knowing Sam, blaming him and not understanding him, but also, how in any pre-series samdean situation, I see Dean as being guilty and shamed about it where Sam is almost brazen, in that cocky, bulletproof teenager kind of way. very indignant and angry about John in a way Dean isn't, which we know in canon, etc.

so, to your very good thoughts above- it's John's POV, so there's a lot of his disappointment in dean and his almost fear of sam and sam being evil. and traditional masculinity, and how the sheer concept of either of his boys liking men, let alone each other, is unthinkable to him. etc.

re the actual sex/attraction elements of john's role in it, I haven't fleshed that out TOO too much, but to your point I think I'm interested in a kind of... not-directly-sex-act-having thing, mostly because i don't think I could ever accurately portray what it would be like to be a dad fucking his sons. I managed matryoshka dolls because it was Dean's pov and a victim sort of angle, which I do know, but I don't think I could do it as John. but I have some ideas that I think will be satisfying anyway!! thank you for asking and I hope i do the concept justice

[brotherscain]

anatomy of a firework

wincest, pre-series ficlet

set during july 4th 1996

it’s july 4th 1996 and dean’s been steadily stocking a crate of fireworks for a couple weeks now, whole time thinking to himself how much sammy’s gonna freak over it. john bails. case got him a few days away already. it’s just him and sam and dean doesn’t know why but he wants to do this right. doesn’t even know what the fuck that means.

they grab burgers from the only diner shitty enough to stay open on the holiday. it’s hot and sticky, and sam insists on a rocket pop anyway. they roll up to the field, sam pulling the chewed wooden stick out of his mouth to ask what’s going on. and dean smiles, loves that he’s getting one over on him. loves even more that there’s no way sam won’t love it too.

sam protests, weakly, when dean lugs it all out of the trunk. eyes dean warily like he hasn’t put down a dozen monsters, he couldn’t possibly know how to light a damn sparkler. and then sam loosens, grins up at the show dean’s put on just for him. spins and spins under the falling embers with a laugh he hasn’t let off in years. dean finds him under the shower of light, and he swells. dean loves him. never wants it to end. wants to run out and steal a dozen more to keep sam exactly as he is, forever if he could.

when it’s done they figure the cops will be by soon. dean’s ears are ringing, sam’s all flushed and bright eyed. a fuse starts burning behind dean’s ribcage. he can feel it reaching the spark. his heart might burst if he doesn’t get it out of him right now, and he hasn’t got a clue what to say.

how did you like it?

i did this for you.

you looked beautiful out there. wanted to feel you.

i do it all for you, you know? you do know that, right?

dean didn’t say any of it. couldn’t get it out over the beating in his chest. got in the car, heard two doors slam shut. sam started saying something lame, probably about the gunpowder making him loopy or some shit but dean couldn’t hear any of it. just saw his baby brother, his sammy, so full of life and because dean made it that way. oh, fuck, his heart never hurt this much. it wanted out, it wanted to blow up inside him and paint the car red with all the dumb, dangerous, terrible things dean was thinking.

sam stopped babbling, looked at dean with worry. it was all dean could do not to burst open right there and spill his guts all over them. sammy, i’ve thought about you in the shower. i’ve thought about your whines smothered against my belly while you rut against me. sammy, i’ve wanted you for forever and i don’t know how to make it stop feeling like this.

dean leaned in and kissed him. and everything inside him took off as a bleary streak.

[lavenderdreams205]

spn thoughts as requested

tw & spoiler warning

they should have kept the grungy filter and aesthetics from the early seasons

bring back the southern / midwest gothic vibes

dean would've listened to and loved 90's & 2000s grunge - I know that the whole "there's no good music past '79" is a key part of his personality but pre series/early seasons dean is soo nirvana / Weezer / smashing pumpkins coded

there is too much flannel in the later seasons - I miss the carhartt and leather jackets so bad

BRING BACK DEANS JEWELRY

there's so much about cas that we don't know. there's all the episodes where he just isn't there and they never tell the viewers what he's doing or where he went

on the same note, cas's personality isn't nearly as flushed out as sam's or dean's are. who is his favorite musician? what's his favorite place to travel to? why does he like the pimpmobile so much? does he actually like the trench coat or does he wear it just because it's there?

so many people characterize cas as a little guy, and while he is cute, it's important to remember that he's also an incredibly powerful eldritch horror who leads angelic armies and brands Michaels vessel just because

dean is bisexual and in love with cas - I won't take the time to list all of the reasons here, but you can definitely find those reasons somewhere

i would've loved for them to use the handprint as a physical manifestation of their bond instead of having it be just a scar that fades with time

i'm actually really ok with the way cas dies, I think it makes sense for his character and provides closure (for him, at least, not for dean)

the parallels of cas and dean meeting in a barn and then dean dying in a barn

cassie is deans first love, cas is his last

the imagery of the empty as cas's wings in 15x18

why do the subtitles spell cas as cass, its awful

there's a few lines in the early seasons that seemingly reference dean getting roofied / sa'd and are subsequently played for laughs, Jensen Ackles confirmed that dean would've done underage sw when John didn't leave them with enough money. I believe that this trauma is a major reason that dean never accepted his sexuality

the way deans alcoholism is overlooked and joked about is actually insane

having dean be completely ok after 15x18 is also insane, especially after the widower arc where the show specifically shows it's viewers how deeply dean grieves cas when he dies

deans death is literally so stupid. I get that the show is trying to make a really meta point about the characters not having plot armor anymore because chuck is gone, but dean deserved to find peace. if the events of the show had never happened and pre series dean had never gotten pre series Sam back into hunting it would've ended the exact same way - dean dead on a hunt and Sam dying from old age

dean spends as much time on earth as he did in hell, and while he would never be the same, I like to believe that if he had been allowed by the narrative to live longer he would've gotten back a little of the twinkle in his eyes that he had before hell

in 15x20 Bobby says that cas helped rebuild heaven but if he was there he would've gone to see dean. additionally, there's no way cas should have been able to escape the empty. this is such a glaringly obvious plot hole and it drives me nuts

I would've liked to see cas's wings in the show - not just the shadow of them

the only time I tolerate serious discussion of wincest is in the context of ethel cain

i am a Sam disliker - while he does have many positive qualities, I have a really hard time getting past him not looking for dean when he was in purgatory and him joking about deans alcoholism and other traumas

i like Sam the best when he's with Eileen, I think they're adorable together and I'm mad they killed her off

I am a chronic jack defender, that boy has done nothing wrong

it would be interesting to explore cas and jacks relationships with their respective genders

there's no way being forced to murder the dean clones didn't affect cas, we only saw him kill the last one but the first few he had to kill had to have been devastating

i'm really disappointed by 14x13 Lebanon, we get the scene with John and Sam but I would argue that dean has significantly more reasons to be upset with John and it's unfortunate that the episode just glossed over this - I believe a screaming match between the two would have cleared the air a bit and been at the very least cathartic for dean

i'm fairly sure that it's canonical that John sent dean away on his 17th birthday to kill lesbian ghosts. my personal hc is that John suspected that dean was bi and sent him to teach him a lesson

i saw a post on here comparing hunting culture to biker and cowboy culture and viewing those things through a queer lens and I thought it was fascinating - there's so much spn could've done if it cared about the show more than money and losing viewers

every time cas and dean beat the shit out of each other, it serves as further proof of their relationship rather than discrediting their relationship - ie demon dean and cas fighting in the library is used to parallel Cain and Collette. it could even be assumed that their love is stronger because Cain killed Collette but dean left cas alive

The purgatory love triangle was so silly

once dean worked through all of his trauma and toxic masculinity he would've been a swiftie

all of the main characters have old / vintage cars but in like season 13/14 dean sam and cas just collectively own and use this really ugly silver truck from the 2010s. its such a small detail but it absolutely ruins my viewing experience every time I see it

dean is actually really smart but most of the fandom overlooks it because Sam is characterized as the smart one. if you know anything about cars you know it takes an insane amount of brains to build a car from scratch (he did this with baby multiple times throughout the show) also he just makes an emf meter using basically nothing. if dean had been given the same opportunities he gave Sam, he would've been an engineer or something

i will always be a John hater, if this man has 0 haters, I am dead

[spnfanficpond]

New Member Spotlight September 2024

The Pond is always growing and we want to make our new members feel welcome! Here’s a list of recent additions to our fishy family and a little info about them!

Turtles

Mads - she/her, US, BookFreaks24 (Discord)

OTP? - I’m definitely a multishipper! ;)

Looking for in the Pond? - Mostly see how the fandom's been thriving over time. Check in with the community.

Pairings you read? - Mostly slash ships but poly occasionally works it’s way in there.

Genres you read? - Crack is an all-time favorite. But my most common genre is hurt/comfort.

What do you like to write? - Mostly pre-series thoughts and dabbles for myself. I tend to jot down headcanons whenever they pop up in my head. 😅

Guppies, Jellies, and Mutuals, oh, my!

Nightbreaker - Eastern US, @the-nightbreaker, The_Nightbreaker (AO3 & Discord)

Looking for in the Pond? - Writing friends and readers :)

Genres you read? - Angst and fluff

What do you like to write? - Angst and fluff. Mostly angst. Mostly Sam trauma angst.

Masterlist!

Dallas - it/he/they, West Coast US, @thicc-mothman, @hotel-casifornia, Thicc_Mothman (AO3), thiccmothman420 (Discord)

OTP? - Destiel

Other fandoms? - lots & lots, far too many to all list

Looking for in the Pond? - community and to get some of my writing out there

Pairings you read? - reader inserts & oc fics mostly

Genres you read? - all kinds, i do favor smut the most though

Masterlist!

Ciel - East Coast US, @incesthemes, southerngothics (AO3 & Discord)

OTP? - wincest (samdean, more weirdcest than wincest)

Other fandoms? - the terror (amc) predominantly, but also a lot of other boat media too. i'm also a fan of interview with the vampire

Looking for in the Pond? - it seems like a great way to network, and also a nice place to talk in-depth about writing and writing theory :)

Pairings you read? - i basically only read wincest shipfic. there are a few ships i'm interested in outside of wincest, but i haven't explored much of the fic scene for them

Genres you read? - i don't have any specific genres i enjoy reading; i just like long (or longer, 7k+ words with no upper limit), well-written, plot-heavy stories. my favorite tropes are soulbonds, bodyswaps, genderbends (in-universe supernatural gender transformation, NOT different gender aus), and canon divergent aus.

Favorite writer(s)? - i'm a big fan of @according2thelore's fics :)

What do you like to write? - i like writing longer stories (15k+) with horror elements—i almost exclusively write romance as a horror, with complicated and toxic relationships are the crux of the conflict and a source of dread and anxiety. otherwise, i enjoy writing much shorter character/relationship studies which deal with a sense of unreality and experimental/creative prose styles.

Masterlist!

Something you haven't written but would like to try? Why not? How can we help? -i have a million and one wips and no time to finish them, lol

Nicole - she/her, Central US, @honestlydonotcareenough, Lorel77 (AO3), nicoleveryofficial (Discord)

OTP? - Destiel (but am a true multishipper)

Other fandoms? - Stephen King's IT

Looking for in the Pond? - Fandom community and getting excited about writing!

Pairings you read? - Usually ships, but am excited to start RIs

Genres you read? - Angst, AUs, casefic

Favorite writer(s)? - kalliel on AO3 is an old favorite :) valleydean (AO3) too

What do you like to write? - i've only written one spn fic, and it was fluffy pre-slash

Masterlist!

Most underappreciated fic? - monster movie

Something you haven't written but would like to try? Why not? How can we help? -I'd like to write a couple of AUs, but they seem like big projects! I could also use help with character voice honestly

Freyja - she/her, South Africa, @eldritchlibertine, EldritchLibertine (AO3), Perephone/hellisotherpeople (Discord)

Other fandoms? - AHS, Marvel, TVD, True Blood

Looking for in the Pond? - Friends who read fanfic, friends who write fanfic, advise on my own fanfic, recommendations, community.

Pairings you read? - Reader inserts and OCs mainly.

Genres you read? - Angst, smut, slow burn, whump

What do you like to write? - Angst, slow-burn, reader inserts, sometimes smut

Amanranth - she/her, under 18 years old, Eastern US, @darkdiamonds7, morethanoneface (Discord)

OTP? - I don’t have one! I’m only on Season 6, but I haven’t found a ship I really like yet. I guess I would say I ship Dean with my OC

Other fandoms? - Marvel, The Owl House, Gravity Falls, AtLA, Shadow and Bone, Spiderverse, Hamilton, Lunar Chronicles, Brandon Sanderson Cosmere, Outer Banks, Arcane, Lord of the Rings, and Wings of Fire

Looking for in the Pond? - I’m looking to read other people’s stuff so I can learn from their example. I’m looking for a community to talk about SPN and delve into its themes. I’m looking for answers about how to write fanfiction. And, maybe, eventually, I’m looking for a place to advertise my work and get feedback.

Pairings you read? - Reader inserts and OC inserts are my favorite to read, and I also love anything AU. But I’ll read anything 😈

Genres you read? - Def fluff, followed by angst

Favorite writer(s)? - Rebekah13592 on Quotev. I read Sola by her over several years and loved it

What do you like to write? - OC inserts, that change the plot slightly. I also add in my own details if there’s something in the original material that I hate

Arty - she/her, UK, @artyandink, artyandink (Discord)

OTP? - Either Dean x Jo (they could’ve worked if she stayed) or Sam x Eileen

Looking for in the Pond? - To share my work with other writers, support them and make friends :)

Pairings you read? - Reader inserts

Genres you read? - Fav trope: coworkers to lovers and I read pretty much any genre

Favorite writer(s)? - @zepskies (same name on AO3)

What do you like to write? - Smut/angst/crack/fluff

tête-à-tête

Most underappreciated fic? - tête-à-tête (Dawson's Creek)

That's all for this month, folks! (If we're missing anyone, let us know and we'll add them to next month's list!) Make sure to say hi to the newbies and make them feel welcome! Thanks to all from @manawhaat, @mrswhozeewhatsis, @mariekoukie6661, @thoughtslikeaminefield, @heavenssexiestangel, and @spn-fanfic-reblog-writes!

[ladylilithprime]

= Suptober2024 Masterpost =

Well, it's definitely been a wild ride across several different pairings and a few different continuities, new and old! Every story will be going up on AO3 in between my work on Novelember, but here is the big collective Masterpost of all of the fics (with notes about continuity and content warnings) that I managed to write over the course of October. Since apparently the Great Pumpkin decided to bring me the gift of being able to write smut this year, the stories with "lemonade stand content" will be marked with a 🍋 [lemon emoji]. Please click responsibly!

Day 1: Autumn

Sastiel. Castiel takes a moment to appreciate the promise of the day and the one with whom he gets to share it.

Day 2: Spa Day

Sastiel. Sam gives Castiel a manicure, and Castiel has no time for Dean's more chauvinistic attitudes.

Day 3: Royalty

Sastiel, follow-up to Day 2. Castiel gives Sam a massage.

Day 4: Birthday

Gen, implied Sastiel. Canon-compliant, including the Finale. Sam really doesn't like celebrating his birthday for a lot of reasons.

Day 5: Scars

Sastiel, picks up from Day 3. It's Castiel's turn to get the royal massage treatment.

Day 6: Electric

Sastiel, prelude to Day 7. A case turns out not to be a case, leaving Sam and Castiel with a paid for motel room and a whole night of unexpected free time. No lemons yet, but the lube makes an appearance.

Day 7: Thankful 🍋

Sastiel, direct follow-on to Day 6. Castiel lays Sam out on the bed and gives thanks for the feast he is being given to enjoy. While the author is of the opinion that this is exactly the sort of content one should read in church, your respective clergical staff may not agree.

Day 8: Witch's Brew

Sastiel. Castiel eventually notices that Sam prefers tea to coffee and goes about ensuring his beloved can enjoy it more often.

Day 9: Moon

Pre-Wincest, set in the werewolf!Sam'verse, Dean's POV of finding out his brother isn't as innocent, or as human, as he used to be. Sam's POV is Day 28.

Day 10: Mushrooms

Jamstiel, set in the Grand Not-Coven of Palo Alto series. Witch!Sam and his familiar, Bones, take hunter twins Jimmy and Cas Novak on a foraging expedition.

Day 11: Myth

Sastiel, wherein Sam is Hades, Persephone is the name of Castiel's vessel, and the story of their meeting and getting together has a lot less kidnapping.

Day 12: Harvest Festival

Sastiel. Sequel to With Festive Airs Attending from the 2017 Sastiel Love Week. Companion to Day 30. Sam and Castiel go back to the Autumn Festival where they had their first date.

Day 13: Monster Mash

Wincest, set in the werewolf!Sam'verse after Day 19 but before Day 23. A werewolf, a hunter, and an Angel of the Lord walk into a bar to meet up with an Archangel hiding as a pagan god.

Day 14: Fave Episode

Swesson. Dean Smith is a very successful VP of Sales and Marketing, but he's kind of an idiot about his crush on the hot IT guy.

Day 15: Sigils

Inspired by Somebody Else's Thanksgiving by @posingasme , wherein Castiel is determined to warn Sam and Dean about Heaven's deceit and Sam has an unorthodox plan to derail the Apocalypse.

Day 16: Falling

Sastiel. Snapshot within the beginning of Day 31. Home repair is occasionally hazardous. Castiel has falling trauma.

Day 17: Wings 🍋

Sastiel. Follows Day 7, wherein Chekhov’s Lube from Day 6 makes its return appearance.

Day 18: Family Business

Gen, background Jamstiel. Set in the Fearie Court of Avalon, NJ series. Sam is a half-faerie prince, Cas and Jimmy Novak are his husbands, and Jack is their adopted selkie son. Summer break is looming and Jack's plans are apparently less foregone than some people thought.

Day 19: Dark & Stormy Night

Pre-Wincest (Sam is on board but Dean is oblivious), set in the werewolf!Sam'verse after Days 9 and 28 but before Day 13. Wolves don't like thunderstorms any better than small boys.

Day 20: Limbo

Sastiel, set in the Familiar'verse. Sam Winchester is a lawyer and practicing witch. Detective John Castiel Novak is a cat shapeshifter and Sam’s familiar. Dean Winchester officially works for the FBI as a hunter community liaison.

Day 21: Cozy Treats

Sastiel. Set after Day 4. Actual Curtain Fic. Finale-compliant, with fem-vessel!Castiel as the Blurry Wife.

Day 22: Ladies

Donnamelia. Takes place in the Faerie Court of Avalon, NJ series. Donna Hanscum is a selkie sheriff. Amelia Everett Richardson is a veterinarian specializing in magical animals and animal forms. Matthew Pike is their foster son and best friends with Jack Kline Winchester, who is the adopted son of the faerie whose magic helped Amelia transition in exchange for her first born child– Amelia’s suggestion. The child’s sire is either John Castiel Novak or James Constantine Novak, who are twins and Sam’s husbands, and donated their sperm to the cause by way of artificial insemination. Bechdel test compliant.

Day 23: Fever 🍋

Set in the werewolf!Sam'verse, approximately mid-season 3. Sam and Dean are pledged to Loki, and Sam didn’t die at Cold Oak. No demon deal, no looming Apocalypse. Full-blown Wincest ahoy!

Day 24: Branded 🍋

Set in the werewolf!Sam'verse. Immediate Part 2 follow-up to Day 23. Wincest and lemony goodness ahoy!

Day 25: Parody

Gen...ish? Apologies to Edgar Allen Poe. I had a plan, and then Dean decided to be a jerk.

Day 26: Enchanted

Sastiel. Features Castiel's true form, magical artifacts, and the perils of a patriarchal secret society. While sex is discussed, none occurs within this narrative. Will be expanded later.

Day 27: Prayer

Wincest. Set in the werewolf!Sam'verse. Immediate follow-up to Day 13, before Day 23. Asking Dean to pray is a bad idea.

Day 28: Graves

Pre-Wincest. Set in the werewolf!Sam'verse, concurrent with Day 9 and before Day 19. Sam's POV of the events of Day 9 and how he became a werewolf.

Day 29: Blue

Phoenix and Dragon'verse. Established Samichael, pre Casamichael. So. Many. Angel wings~

Day 30: Nostalgia

Dean-centric, background Sastiel. Companion to Day 12. Dean gets to kick back by himself for a bit while Sam and Cas are on their "couples retreat".

Day 31: Halloween/Costumes

Sastiel. Set in the same continuity and after Day 16. Curtain-ish fic.

Enjoy!

[hearthouses]

happy wincest wednesday❣️so as we know, sam first realized dean was the only person he could count on that christmas when he was 8, but when did he first realize he was in love with him?

Short answer: around puberty.

Longer answer: I fully believe it’s always been a fact of Sam’s existence that he’s been in love with Dean, from day one. It’s not so much realizing he is in love with him, but rather untangling his inborn familial, brotherly love for Dean from his romantic feelings for, and sexual attraction towards Dean. Sam notices his attraction first, hit in the gut one day when Dean is hanging around the motel or abandoned house of the week, being Dean and Sam realizes oh no he’s hot, then immediately has to leave the room or lock himself up in the bathroom before he starts panicking.

I know it is popular to read Sam's feelings of being unclean and impure as metaphors for queerness or CSA trauma, but for me, it always felt like he was talking about how he felt about Dean and knowing it wasn't good or normal, but couldn't be helped because it was embedded in the fabric of his identity. I struggle to see it being specifically linked to queerness because Sam and Dean already live an othered existence, well outside the norm of the middle class white american nuclear family. The idea that Sam would have Catholic level shame about liking boys feels almost silly to me, sorry friends. But Sam who has been having intense feelings and sexual thoughts of his brother (along with the fact I headcanon that he's been psychic since childhood, just deeply repressed about it, but that is very much "a headcanon" to me)? Yeah, I can see where he would get the ideas that he needed to be purified, fixed, saved from himself.

He agonizes and pines for years while Dean remains oblivious while also doing his own forms of inappropriate boundary crossing and creating intimate moments that are slowly but surely killing Sam and making him wish for some sort of escape before he does something stupid, so enter college, enter his need to reinvent himself was the Most Normal Boy. Personally, I do like making things messier by throwing in a pre-series backstory where Sam mucks up enough courage to make a move, leaving S1 and beyond a second chance at first love kind of trope, but I also like the idea that Sam did run away from Dean and his feelings and tried to push it all down under the surface until it outran him.

[according2thelore]

listen it's already wincest wednesday in my neck of the woods so I'm gonna just get right down to it: couldn't stop thinking about sam being just weirdly obsessed with dean's circumcision scar (in like the a sweet body-worship kind of way but also in a gross-boys-being-gross-boys kind of way; they contain multitudes) and THEN had to contend with the idea that post!S3, if post!hell dean got rehymenated... did he also have to have his circumcision redone? or was he just rockin' foreskin for the rest of the series? genuinely I think this is the most I've ever considered hypothetical foreskin in my life. anyways, a tip of the hat and a glorious wincest wednesday to you all!

EEEE anon!!!! correct!!!!!!

[NSFT under the cut!!!!!]

i imagine in a scenario where dean is circumcised and sam is not, it's because mary and john intended to have it done, but haven't gotten it done yet, but obviously, it slips through the cracks after the fire.

i think it starts as a 'hey this is different than me.' (if anything at first sam gets kinda bummed about it, bc it's another sign that dean got something when he was younger (a happy family that had time to care abt things like that) that sam didn't)

but like...then it gets weird.

if they're intimate pre-hell, sam can't stop touching the scar. he'll blow dean just so he can feel it against his tongue, he'll reach over and put his hand down dean's pants just when they're watching TV or something so he can hold his dick in his hand and run his finger along it.

maybe dean notices that sam's a little obsessed, but just chalks it up to sam being weird bc dean's going to hell in a month.

and of course if we look at the traditional religious implications of circumcision, it's a physical difference between them, a show that dean has this covenant with a higher power that sam does not because he's demonic, and he's evil, and he's wrong.

but when dean comes back w a foreskin, i don't even think he notices until he showers. he screams bloody murder, and bobby kicks the bathroom door in, and dean's like "what the FUCK did they do to my dick??"

the first time they're intimate post-hell, sam sticks his hand down dean's pants and freezes. dean totally forgot to give him a heads-up, but it's too late as sam rips dean's pants down.

game over, honestly. sam doesn't become any less obsessed. he loves the way he can slide it back and taste dean's sweat, his dried come. you also bet they dock. like all the time.

as for getting it done again, i wouldn't be surprised if that was an implication from the higher ups, like 'oh look u can prove your loyalty again, and choose to make this covenant again type thing w heaven,' but i don't imagine dean being down with that (but if he does get it done again, sam wants to do it, you can't change my mind; getting to MAKE that scar?? jesus christ (charlotte agrees))

anyway.

you're right, i've also never thought about the state of dean's dick season to season, but ahh...yeah.

thank you anon for this lovely ask, and happy (day-late) wincest wednesday!

-lizzy

[supernaturalkickparty]

Fic authors self rec! When you get this, reply with your favorite five fics that you've written, then pass on to at least five other writers. Let’s spread the self-love ❤

🥰🥰🥰🥰 I'm really self conscious about my writing but I'm glad I was sent this. Maybe this will help me get back into writing again.

Starting Over Verse- this will always be a favorite because it was the first fic/verse I've ever done. It's a J2 fic that I never would have written if @j2-are-eternal hadn't been my hyped man through it all.

This one starts off in the early 2000s when J2 first meet and goes on until current ish times. I don't wanna give too much away but this one has the right amount of fluff angst and everything.

From here on out we're getting into what I call bestie fic lol I wrote these as gifts for the bestie @fandom-hoarder because we are hive minded and she's extremely amazing and i love her.

What a father wouldn't do- this one is a pre series fic, do heed the warnings on this one and the others if you or anyone scrolls through them.

This one is pre series, it's got teenchesters, weirdchesters, Sam whump, protective Dean, protective/bamf John. I love it.

Bruised and Broken- READ THE WARNINGS ON THIS ONE!!! It's wincest. It's underage Sam whump, bamf John, hurt Dean, hurt family and it's so Sammy feels. Idk if that makes sense but it does to me lol

Sam and His Techicolor Fingernails- this one is so cute and totally gen. It's pre series Sammy and Dean, it's got supportive big brother Dean, baby brother Sammy who is into nail polish and being his true self. It's cute as hell and one of my favorites.

And last but not least is a samjess fic that was something different because I've never written samjess but me and bestie had thoughts and feelings about Stanford era Sam and this was the end product for her birthday🖤

Anything But Ordinary- Stanford era Sam, samjess. All the away from home adjusting feels, Sam knowing how he doesn't fit in, domestic fluff, lots of feels and I had so much fun writing samjess.

[doriananonsblog]

hOw CaN yOu ShIp YuCkY yUcKy ~iNcEsTtttTt??!?!!~

Listen, I unironically ship a human being and a literal (albeit humanly smart) PLATYPUS together. I couldn't give less of a fuck. It's not real.

No, I've never even watched the show! I thought the ship was hilarious, and then I was like: wait, it can't all be a joke though, are there people who genuinely ship it and write earnest fanfic for it? And there were! And I liked it!

That's also how I started shipping Wincest — I was like: I don't understand how or why people would ship that, but there has to be some reason. So I looked up fanfic. And I wasn't really into it at first, though I sort of got what they were getting at/what their motivation was at least, but then I just felt this weird urge after a while to go back and read more. So I did. And I started to like it more. Oh well! Yeah, if they were real people that would be super fucked up, especially the ones I particularly like that are pre-series, which would be like yeah, get Sam out of that situation immediately. But he's not a real person, is he? He's not in danger, because we're in control of reality here, and he's a character, a figment of our imaginations, not a flesh and blood teenager. And if we're creating the narrative that this is not trauma to him, then guess what? It's not! Because we can do whatever we want in fiction. His experiences of situations are only what we make his experience of them; the way his brain processes is only through the stroke of our keys, it can't internalise those experiences and process them however it may on its own, because it doesn't exist.

I will just never understand anti arguments. Who cares. You don't just want to see someone just go berserk at some point? You don't want to learn the details and motivation of a crime? Learn their backstory (even if it's not an excuse, it's context, it's interesting, it's valuable)? You don't like vampires? Other monsters? You don't want to witness gore sometimes? Passion? Madness? Darkness? Cruelty? Betrayal? In the most intimate ways? You don't want to sing along when It Wasn't Me, or literally any of the other thousands of songs about cheating (or violence or abuse or stalking) come on? You don't like classic literature, which is full of authors who had many less than savoury views (either as a product of their time, or just themselves personally), which either bleed into their works or are straight up intrinsic parts of them?

Maybe you aren't interested in all of that, but it's a straight up lie to insist anyone is never interested in ANY of that, and trying to consume only completely 'pure' media all the time is not only stupid and a losing game, but also robbing yourself of so much joy and interest in life.

[fandom-hoarder]

Caretaker!Dean in the Bunker

A Hurt/Comfort-ish Wincest Rec List Featuring Baby Brother Sammy and Domestic Winchesters

💜 My Only Home by non_tiembo_mala

Rating: Explicit | Words: 12819 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Dean's been gone a while, running wild with a twisted soul and black eyes. When Sam finally brings him back, Dean realizes his little brother hasn't been doing well in his absence, and he has more important things to worry about than what he did as a demon.

Additional Tags: Wincest - Freeform, first time in a long time, Post-Episode: s10e03 Soul Survivor, Pre-series and Early Series Flashbacks, Eating Disorders, Thoughts of Self-harm, Pining, Angst, Masturbation, Come Eating, Hurt/Comfort, Bottom Sam, Anal Sex, Felching, Snowballing

My Note: flashbacks to Sam pining for Dean as a teen, but no underage sex with a partner

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💜 Safe, Sane, and Consentual by TooOldToCare8353

Rating: Explicit | Words: 2808 | Chose Not to Warn

Summary: Fixing the relationship, the Winchester way. Not necessarily the right way to get there, but it works for them.

Additional Tags: BDSM, Breathplay, MOL Dungeon, Dom Dean Winchester, Sub Sam Winchester, Manacles, Orgasm Delay/Denial, Dubious Consent

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💜 Dean does Not like a sick Sammy... but he loves her all the same. By Magnoliachild

Rating: Mature | Words: 3941 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: They get to town for a hunt, but the day after they get there, Dean notices Sammy napping...face down on a motel table.... in the middle of the afternoon.............. FUCK.

Sammy is sick. Dean doesn't like it when Sammy is sick, but sue him for liking how nice he can be when she is...

Additional Tags: Bathing/Washing, Sick Sam Winchester, Caring Dean Winchester, Fluff, Dean Winchester Takes Care of Sam Winchester, Established Relationship, Alternate Universe - Gender Changes, Always Female Sam Winchester, Men of Letters Bunker (Supernatural)

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💜 lullabies by chiliscale

Rating: Explicit | Words: 970 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Sam´s staying up late, Dean doesn´t care for that shit.

Additional Tags: Men of Letters Bunker (Supernatural), Dean taking care of Sam, Domestic Fluff

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💜 Steady by non_tiembo_mala

Rating: Teen+ | Words: 1441 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Sam has an attack. Dean works him through it.Set somewhere in S11 because I can't stop thinking about strong, beautiful Sammy being all fucked up because of friggin' Lucifer.

Additional Tags: Wincest - Freeform, Nightmares, Anxiety, Panic Attacks, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Sleepy Cuddles

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💜 Getting Down And Out by verucasalt123

Rating: Teen+ | Words: 2299 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: “Hey, Sam, take a breath, we got all the time in the world”, Dean tells him, which of course isn’t true, is never true, but Sam needs to relax if he’s going to start using complete sentences.

Additional Tags: Sibling Incest, Kissing, Cooking, Witches, Episode: s10e12 About A Boy, Childhood Memories, John Winchester's A+ Parenting, Child Neglect, Food Issues, Song: Shake It Off (Taylor Swift), Established Dean Winchester/Sam Winchester, Community: spn_j2_xmas

Podfic by me Here

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💜 The Only Thing by non_tiembo_mala

Rating: Teen+ | Words: 1242 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Sam gets mind-fucked and tortured by a British bitch who somehow manages to walk away from it all in one piece.

But he also gets back the brother he thought was dead, and Dean will always be enough.

Additional Tags: Wincest - Freeform, Episode Tag: S12E02, Post-Episode: s12e02 Mamma Mia, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, bed sharing, Cuddles

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💜 A Blind Fool's Luck by hellhoundsprey

Rating: Explicit | Words:3561 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: [summary is a really long prompt, so I'm giving my own here] Sam finds out he's really an omega when Rowena offers to set him back to rights. He doesn't tell Dean, but Dean can tell right away when Sam starts a heat; Dean's held guilt over not stopping John from altering Sam's body as a kid.

Additional Tags: Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics, Non-Consensual Body Modification, Traumatized Sam Winchester, Omega Sam Winchester, Bottom Sam Winchester, Alpha Dean Winchester, Top Dean Winchester, Soulmates, Unresolved Sexual Tension, Barebacking, Hurt/Comfort, Men of Letters Bunker (Supernatural)

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💜 Every Night by non_tiembo_mala

Rating: Mature | Words: 1585 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Sam is struggling with nightmares after Dean rescues him from the Cage. He's trying not to worry Dean about it but nothing slips past his big brother.

Additional Tags: Season/Series 11, Wincest - Freeform, Cuddles, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Brothers, Nightmares, Post-Cage, Sleepy Boys, Episode: s11e10 The Devil in the Details, Coda

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💜 One Good Birthday by brokenlittleboy

Rating: Teen+ | Words: 3773 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: This year, nothing bad happens on Sam's birthday. Sam's on edge, waiting for that shoe to drop. Dean tries to give him one good birthday, and they both realize something along the way.

Additional Tags: Birthday Fluff, Men of Letters Bunker (Supernatural), Season/Series 15, First Kiss, Sleepy Cuddles, First Dates, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder - PTSD, Sam Has Birthday Trauma, Fix-It

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Honorable Mentions 💚

💚 It's A Love Story by non_tiembo_mala

Rating: Teen+ | Words:1569 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Brother cuddles, confessions, and sweet banter after the boys get back to the bunker.

Additional Tags: Wincest - Freeform, Cuddles, Hurt/Comfort, Spoilers, Episode: s11e17 Red Meat, Coda, Soulmates, Dean and Sam are Romeo and Juliet

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💚 only this and nothing more by wincestgoddess

Rating: Not Rated | Words: 1611 | No Warnings Apply

Summary: Dean gifts Sam souvenirs. It's no big deal, except that it is.

Except when they're more than just souvenirs.

Additional Tags: Men of Letters Bunker (Supernatural), Romantic Fluff, Hurt/Comfort, lovestruck Sam Winchester, lovestruck Dean Winchester, Soulmates, Brief mention of sexual assault

[venhedish]

OKAY OKAY OKAY

this is my all-time favorite pre-series wincest vibe and i have a playlist devoted to this exact feeling (including both iron and wine and radical face). Here are a few songs that might be of further interest:

In a River - Rostam.

We are swimming with no clothes on In a river in the dark And I am holding on to you, boy In the faint light of the stars

Big Black Car - Gregory Alan Isakov.

Well time has a way of throwing it all in your face The past, she is haunted, the future is laced Heartbreak, you know, drives a big black car Swear I was in the back seat, just minding my own

Childhood - Roo Panes.

Whoever makes the summer bloom When I grow up, I wanna be like you I thought, I love all the things you do So when I grow up, I wanna be like you

The Predatory Wasp of the Palisades is Out to Get us! - Sufjan Stevens.

I can't explain the state that I'm in The state of my heart, he was my best friend Into the car, from the back seat Oh admiration in falling asleep

Michigan - The Milk Carton Kids.

Michigan's in the rear-view now Keep your hands where I could see 'em You took the words right outta my mouth When you knew that I would need 'em

i can't sleep - Peter McPoland.

You miss the songs in your dad's old car The first time you heard it and watched the stars When the nights were cold and your light up shoes would Stomp on the pavement and twinkle blue

Bonus tracks: Ecstasy - Crooked Still (Instrumental) Bowsprit - Balmorhea (Instrumental)

my favorite kind of wincest is backwater towns with humid days in the shade where they’re both sweating and used to it, boys who aren’t only looking but watching for every new scar on each other’s body. nights alone in separate beds in separate rooms because the place they’re at has the extra space but it’s killing them. my favorite kind of wincest is sound of iron and wine lyrics, their music is so perfect for them. you’re not listening. iron and wine. and. radical face is beautiful for them too. are you listening? give me country brothers who have never belonged, or belonged anywhere for that matter, they definitely don’t prefer the city. fuckin spoon feed that shit to me. i want to feel their endless pining that grows as big as the trees they pass on the long way to the next state. listen, you’re not listening, sam and dean were always meant to be together with nothing else in between, they’ll go swimming in the nearest lake when it gets dark out with the crickets and fireflies around them. they’re not afraid. they love each other. listen, listen, i have all of this stashed in my heart,

[fictionallemons]

Wincest Fic Recs: my faves

Wow this list was way harder to compile than I thought it would be. Too many to choose from! These are just the ones I couldn’t not include. Also, going through my bookmarks showed me that many of these fics are by my favorite authors in general, so you can’t go wrong exploring all of their fics. Consider these a jumping off point. All on AO3, in no particular order. Happy reading!

And at once I knew I was not magnificent by philomel 18K, pre-series. My gun-to-my-head favorite Wincest fic of all time. Also introduced me to the song Holocene by Bon Iver which I have listened to approximately 1 million times since reading this fic.

Nothing Before You by Sintari: 4K, late seasons first time.    

i wish to melt into you by dollylux: 2K, part of the invisible boy verse, which is  of course a genuine classic, but this fic is incredibly beautiful on its own. Pure romance.

Summer Film Festival of Death by OldToadWoman: 127K, and now for something completely different. Slow burn and hysterically funny.

because you want to die for love by hathfrozen (@hathfrozenmain) 27K, again, everything by this author is incredible, but if you can only read one, read this one. The ultimate heaven fix-it.

no one thing is everything by Canon_Is_Relative: 7K, post 15x19, Jody finds out.

Superposition by @nyxocity: 36K, a love letter to the show and eerily prescient about the show’s finale

Midwinter Montana series by Morgan: 143K, 3 works, intense and worth following through to the end.

The Things We Carry With Us by lovesrain44: 47K, classic s2-era casefic with beautiful wincest feels

Strollers, Strength and Serenity by strive2bhappy: 25K, shamelessly enjoyable domestic mpreg

the thirty-third yard by deadlybride: 11k, deadlybride (aka @zmediaoutlet) is one of the all-time greats. Everything they write is in character and gorgeous. This is just one example among dozens.

Where the Bodies Are Buried by @road-rhythm 8K, a wonderful post-series coda by an author who always offers the unexpected.

Run So Far (That I Am Standing Still) by DickBaggins: 99K. This has Sam/Dean, as well as Sam/Cas, Dean/Cas, and Sam/Dean/Cas. It’s also an AU where Cas is Sam’s therapist. This is an incredibly original story. In a way, it inspired my fic I’m Burning For You. I wish there were more Sam/Dean aus where they have to navigate their feelings in the “real” world.

Worth a Thousand Words by astrugglingstoic: 7K, Stanford-era, Dean sends Sam some pictures of himself and a letter. Read it.