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in the US we only have 3 genders. american beauty, american psycho, and american pie
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Moc!Dean and Demon!Dean were such funny plotlines in retrospect because he was out here killing the worst people to have ever existed, like predators, traffickers, incels, old money southern white people (except for the Cyrus kid), that one deranged ex-man of letters and I’m supposed to be clutching my pearls and shaking. No!! Let him cook!! He was doing honest work until everyone else went and freaked out on him.
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I feel like a lot of the younger fans and those fans who deny and/or ignore all the gay subtext surrounding Dean should watch the film The Celluloid Closet.
It's been years since I watched it and I gave it a rewatch tonight and there were a few quotes from people within the industry that really hit home in regard to what writers did to get things out there and what queer people interpreted they were seeing in regard to queer content in the movies.
Two of them really stood out to me:
Hollywood had learned to write movies between the lines and some members of the audience had learned to watch them that way.
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The character is in the closet. The movie is in the closet. And we are in the closet.
Everyone who cries "They never came out and told us Dean was bi" and even "Jensen said he never played Dean as bi" is missing the larger, more obvious point. They wanted to tell us outright and couldn't. So they did what they could and expected us to pick up on it.
Writer Gore Vidal is interviewed in the film about Ben-Hur because he was one of the contributing writers. He tells a story that is reminiscent of the story Misha tells about Jeremy Carver telling him to play it like a jilted lover after Cas and Dean reunite in season nine.
To quote an article from the Decider:
Based on an 1880 novel, Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ, the film was directed by Hollywood great William Wyler, and screenwriter Gore Vidal was one of many who took a pass at the screenplay. In The Celluloid Closet, Vidal states in no uncertain terms that he scripted the film as a confrontation between ex-lovers Ben-Hur (Charlton Heston) and Messala (Stephen Boyd). Further, Vidal claims that, after consultation with Wyler and Boyd (but not Heston, who would have objected), he wrote one particular scene, where the estranged Ben-Hur and Messala meet again, with heavy gay subtext. “I said,’ Well, I’ll never use the word,'” Vidal says. “‘There’ll be nothing overt. But it will be perfectly clear that Massala is in love with Ben-Hur.” Vidal, as was his wont, couldn’t help but portray Heston as the clueless fool, who Wyler reportedly said would “fall apart” if he knew what he was being asked to play. “So Heston thinks he’s doing Francis X. Bushman [who played Ben-Hur in the 1925 silent version]. And Stephen Boyd is acting it to pieces. There are looks that he gives him that are just so clear.”
The Celluloid Closet was made in 1995 and there have been huge strides in regard to queer movies and television. But that doesn't mean a show like Supernatural was staffed with people (and backed by a network) that was willing to go all in. So the writers (and a lot of time the editors and directors) got their stuff in where they could and they left it up to the audience to figure out what was what.
And we did.
If other people missed it, that's on them.
We aren't crazy. We aren't seeing only what we want to see.
We're seeing what THEY wanted us to see.
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I want you to remember:
The fascists hate you too and they just will pretend otherwise until after they've killed the rest of us, before they turn on you.
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The nazis that you see in movies are as much a historical fantasy as vikings with horned helmets and samurai cutting people in half.
The nazis were not some vague evil that wanted to hurt people for the sake of hurting them. They had specific goals which furthered a far right agenda, and they wanted to do harm to very specific groups, (largely slavs, jews, Romani, queer people, communists/leftists, and disabled people.)
The nazis didn't use soldiers in creepy gas masks as their main imagery that they sold to the german people, they used blond haired blue eyed families. Nor did they stand up on podiums saying that would wage an endless and brutal war, they gave speeches about protecting white Christian society from degenerates just like how conservatives do today.
Nazis weren't atheists or pagans. They were deeply Christian and Christianity was part of their ideology just like it is for modern conservatives. They spoke at lengths about defending their Christian nation from godless leftism. The ones who hated the catholic church hated it for protestant reasons. Nazi occultism was fringe within the party and never expected to become mainstream, and those occultists were still Christian, none of them ever claimed to be Satanists or Asatru.
Nazis were also not queer or disabled. They killed those groups, before they had a chance to kill almost anyone else actually. Despite the amount of disabled nazis or queer/queer coded nazis you'll see in movies and on TV, in reality they were very cishet and very able bodied. There was one high ranking nazi early on who was gay and the other nazis killed him for that. Saying the nazis were gay or disabled makes about as much sense as saying they were Jewish.
The nazis weren't mentally ill. As previously mentioned they hated disabled people, and this unquestionably included anyone neurodivergent. When the surviving nazi war criminals were given psychological tests after the war, they were shown to be some of the most neurotypical people out there.
The nazis weren't socialists. Full stop. They hated socialists. They got elected on hating socialists. They killed socialists. Hating all forms of lefitsm was a big part of their ideology, and especially a big part of how they sold themselves.
The nazis were not the supervillians you see on screen, not because they didn't do horrible things in real life, they most certainly did, but because they weren't that vague apolitical evil that exists for white American action heros to fight. They did horrible things because they had a right wing authoritarian political ideology, an ideology that is fundamentally the same as what most of the modern right wing believes.
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Martin Luther King speaking to striking workers in Memphis
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the fact that this isn't even all of the times he died i had two cut out a few (incl. the one i do not legally recognize)
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i find it funny that conservatives try to paint me calling for the death and destruction of multi-billionaire CEOs as some radical "woke liberal" standpoint. as if that even has anything to do with politics, especially in this era of surface level circus politics. the same way they try to politicize the hurricanes or the wildfires destroying parts of america, as if climate change is somehow a red vs. blue issue. it's no secret i'm from a deeply conservative family in the sticks of florida and i still grew up hearing "i fought the law and the law won". the healthcare system has fucked each and every member of my family in a different way at one point or another, as is the case with pretty much every family in this scorched earth nation. remember when country music, the genre currently associated the heaviest with the most conservative faction of america, used to be staunchly anti-government and about sticking it to the man? remember when the coal miners, grandfathers to the "trump-er hillbillies" of appalachia that everyone loves to write off as ignorant, fought tooth and nail for unionization because the companies that were built off their labor didn't give a shit if they lived or died? since when has "upholding traditional values" gone hand in hand with... defending lawmakers and oil tycoons. my family and i complain about the same issues at the dinner table. the men in charge better hope they can keep their digital smokescreens running as long as they can because the moment the rednecks and the hippies lay down their swords long enough to realize they have the same enemy, all hell is gonna break loose.
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Spn writers after dropping the most heartbreaking, gut wrenching, tragic tidbit of Dean’s past for laughs in the middle of a low- stakes silly goofy episode and never mentioning it again
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Dean, after seeing Emma being killed by Sam (spn 7x13)
#i think we all need to remember sam did this as retaliation for Dean killing his kitsune “friend” he knew for a week in high school#like the reactions were so unbalanced#this woman murdered multiple people and said she didn't feel bad so I killed her#and my DAUGHTER who was brainwashed by a cult and is 2 days old btw was coming to kill me but then didn't but you killed her anyway#like these are not the same thing#i know it's the perpetual battle between samgirls blaming dean for everything and deangirls blaming sam#but come on dean knew what he did was wrong and regretted it but sam was so blinded by his rage he killed his own niece to spite dean#prev#i hate sam club
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i totally gotta catch up on some horror movies this fall
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completely smitten by nerdy guy explaining his wild theories<3
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