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really just flubbed it at work today - this whole week has just been extraordinarily shitty
#tried a facilitation thing and it didnt work right bc i think i worded something poorly and so nobody got anything out of it and in fact ppl#ppl felt like it did more harm than good and i can totally see how#and also like yesterday went to shit and part of it was on me but my boss talked to me today and just told me all kinds of things that#apparently are our policy but not what i was told when i started and so even more things then became my fault#and i feel like this whole week i just have lost sight of what my job actually is and how to do it right#ive never had a job where i feel this insecure about what im doing all the time and im really starting to dread it bc i my job has so much#impact on the ppl i work with and i genuinely dont know if i can manage it i feel a lot of shame around how things played out this week and#my own skills#ouch my posts
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In regards to your TikTok vent (which was totally justified like wtf) I think some kids just get really into like a man with a life filled with tragedy? Idk how to explain it, but itās like they have a thing for men who have a life filled with trouble and pain. So they exaggerate Colbyās Emo-ness to be filled with self harm, depression, SA and more. I have no way to explaining it but I know people have mentioned how they enjoy reading books with the main male character like that and I feel like it translates to real life people too.
sorry i didn't respond sooner. i saw this ask when you originally sent it in, and then forgot all about it until now.
i think part of your ask is right. i think there are a lot of fans that are drawn to this darker side of colby, whether true or not.
i think as young women, we do get taught a lot that "bad boys" are really just good guys that are rough around the edges. they're the ones with a dark past and are emotionally constipated. we as women need to "fix" them - be their therapist, mom, gf all in one (even if at the risk of losing ourselves). and i think this notion also gets passed onto guys that girls are into, whether this is something they want or not.
you can't fix someone. it's not your job to do that to your partner. and if someone is really that "broken", they need professional help. you can't put that pressure on yourself.
that being said, i think your idea isn't the full reason why these lies are being spread on tiktok. i mean, trying to give an explanation as to why ppl lie is already a feat to make. i bet there are fans that just lie just to see if ppl will believe it. and i think what makes that worse is that no one follows up something when they see someone make a statement.
for example, the "elton making colby show his sh scars to a camera": the one tiktok i saw that talked about this (now idk if they are the originator so i'll cut them some slack), when asked when did this happen, only said "it was during a livestream that's been deleted". and hilariously, i've also heard someone else say it was actually a video but elton took it down. the problem with this is that of course giving this as the "proof" basically means you can make up whatever as long as you say the proof was deleted. but my main issue with this is that 1, elton and snc haven't collabed since 2019, which means that 2, if this did happen, why did no one talk about it until 2022???? you're telling me for three years, no one said anything. but a random fan on tiktok was able to unearth this event that unfolded, only to not give proof bc it was a livestream that was deleted???? which then means 3, how the fuck would you know this was a thing??????
i will say, the snc fandom on tiktok HATE elton. like, even more than i do. but i think they try too hard to make elton the bad guy. like, elton has done enough fucked up shit. you don't gotta lie to make him look bad lol
not to mention, especially with this particular topic, colby has outright said that he's never had depression, has never hurt himself, and doesn't feel comfortable giving advice on this type of stuff. soā¦ what about that screams "i've suffered with depression and self harming"?????
i also believe that a lot of fans take things out of context and just run buckwild with it. like the clip from the awesomenesstv video where they do the lie detector and colby says they had a roommate that they felt used them. ppl immediately said "oh it's about elton" when in reality it was about aaron when they didn't get along for a month after moving out. but bc a lot of fans have just gotten into the fandom, they don't know all the lore. which is really my main problem with the tiktok fandom: they don't know everything and thus connect dots that aren't there.
and all of this is tiring as an older fan not only bc i know the truth, but bc NO ONE ELSE IN THE COMMENTS IS ARGUING WITH THEM. i barely see any comments trying to say "hey guys, this didn't happen", so it's hard for me to want to do that either. that's why i make the joke that i might have to start an snc tiktok just to tell fans that none of this shit is real and someone is lying to you.
also i forgot to mention but fanfics are also at fault. but i've ranted about that enough on here lol
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hi with this post going around i wanna copypaste some replies i left in response to another reblog too. the rebloger was saying that its also okay to enjoy problematic content (which, to be clear, i agreed with on a base level, but felt it needed more context since that can often be code for something much less nuanced)
this one should come with a bit of a disclaimer about whatever the thing youre enjoying is and in what way though. thoughtcrimes arent real, but actively choosing to watch lolicon hentai is a conscious decision. though ik thats not what youre talking abt here, i just feel like its something important to bring up, bc of how these types of discussions can get warped to mean "my frozen incest fanfiction is actually totally ok and if you disagree youre harming ppl w OCD" which i dont want the take away to be. i dont want ppl to use vague stereotypes of my disorder as a talking point to justify that kind of shit- because thats not the point and also doesnt help people with OCD at all! esp with POCD to be lumped together with... that crowed. again ik thats not what you mean im just saying it to clarify the slippery slope before someone takes it there for real! critical thought is important at all turns and such. and people with OCD are not incapable of critical thought, or understanding when media can actually be harmful in the real world. we still know how to separate the two, as should most people. that's what i mean by the response to it mattering more than the act of consuming. we might struggle a bit more with aspects of this, usually in the mental side (ruminations and obsessions) and thought crimes arent real! but actual actions are!
unfortunately, you wont actually see these replies if you check the comments (which is why i added them here). because i was blocked seconds after leaving them. apparently, even though i gave the responder the benefit of the doubt with the whole "slippery slope" of "yeah! fiction doesnt effect reality! lets all draw explicit content of children!" i checked and they... actually did in fact write what seems to be voltron pedoincest fanfiction and had "antis dni" in their bio (i missed that somehow, honestly thats on me). i think they also deleted their reblog, so i doubt people will find them. which is for the best because im not trying to get harassment sent anyones way either.
but this is still exactly what i was afraid of- our disorder being used as a talking point for the same stupid pedantic tumblr discourse that was the issue to begin with. being used as if we're not autonomous people who can make our own choices regarding media consumption, but rather an objectified hypothetical to get a moral one-upping in the black-and-white view of the outgroup. stop that shit. if youre here to do that either way YOU are part of the problem. you are not helping those with OCD this way. and the second that is pointed out you will delete the post supporting them and block the op? fuck you!
and the thing is, in terms of OCD, ANY mentality with a set of morals presented as all-or-nothing black-and-white is harmful. if youre seeing this and thinking it "dunks" on the other side of the discourse, youre missing the point. because the other side does the exact same shit. in this case, the argument with that "pro" crowed is basically "either all media depictions of xyz are good, or all media depictions of xyz are bad, and since i enjoy some depictions of xyz then they must all be good, and anyone who says otherwise is an evil anti" (aforementioned black-and-white thinking).
so with that, you posit the idea that anyone who has any sort of critical thought or issues with certain tropes of depictions of sensitive topics in any piece of media ever, must be an Evil Puritanical Conservative, ergo you have to never voice critique in media or the way it's engaged with. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT BETTER FOR PEOPLE WITH MORAL OCD? YOU ARE JUST AS BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
dont you dare use this shit as a talking point in your pedantic discourse when the whole point of the post is THATS THE ISSUE TO BEGIN WITH! this shit is just as much the root of the problem as what i was talking about in the post. dont use this shit to outright tell us that we cant think for ourselves and have to go by your stringent unnuanced discourse as a guide. thats the issue. thats the problem i was talking about to begin with. YOU just as much are the voice of the fictional tumblr discourser inside our heads, youre just using different buzzwords. and this site continues to be awful to people with OCD. fellow OCDers do yourselves a favor and, like me, get the fuck out of these groups.
look this site really is awful for ppl with OCD so i just wanna reassure anyone that you are not Tainted Forever for consuming a piece of media with questionable content. the fact that youre able to recognize it speaks to your critical thinking skills, which is good, certain depictions should be critiqued. but you dont need to ruminate on it to the point where you begin to feel guilty for simply witnessing gross or creepy writing choices. you dont have to vindicate yourself to the fictional tumblr discourser inside your head, saying that youre now a bad person bc you watched the wrong anime. your actual response to it still matters of course, but thats that and this is this. just seeing it is neutral, you didnt commit a thought crime. its literally fine.
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Does tirf mean trans inclusive radical feminist? If so thatās me too. I wish it felt safer to openly have these kinds of conversations, but Iām already so isolated by disability and trauma among other things that I canāt really afford to be further ostracized in the ways that doing so inevitably leads to. Iām happy to see people like you trying to foster healthy dialogue though
yup i'm a trans inclusive radfem!! i'm really trying to stop the demonization of radical feminism and ease tensions between trans ppl and radfems, and analyze different issues that each group has against the other. it makes my head spin sometimes because there's soooo much conflict but i'm seeing some progress and more and more transmasc ppl are joining, and more transfems are becoming allies and learning more which is really awesome to see!
i'm gonna ramble abt my views for a sec -- so the things that drew me to radical feminism is that a) i wanted to learn more abt The Enemy to combat transphobia, and b) afab-exclusive oppression is a pretty taboo topic in trans spaces bc transfems are positioned as The Most Oppressed. anti-radfem spaces rarely embrace nuance, and it leads to many transmasc ppl belittling their own unique struggles and cis/bio women being seen as inherently more privileged for being born girls in society, which imo is batshit insane. transmisogyny is seen as worse than anti-afab misogyny. i think transphobia is a thing, and unfortunately pretty common. i've faced it when i thought i was transmasc for manyyy years, and it really did harm my mental health and impede my healing journey. but ppl yell transphobia at afab folks talking abt how ALL amab ppl benefit from anti-afab misogyny, aka sex/agab-based oppression. cis women & transmascs can be transmisogynistic, but transfems can very well be afabmisogynistic, or whatever you want to call it... ppl refuse to talk abt that!! they refuse to talk abt how amab upbringing is a privilege too, bc you avoid growing up facing misogyny... which obv is a privilege. if transfems face struggles, it's due to being seen as gnc boys in childhood & teenagehood, unless they transitioned. so yeah, these are things that shouldn't be seen as bigoted in trans & grander lgbtq spaces, but unfortunately they are... and radical feminism is seen as inherently bigoted. i don't like terfism existing bc i do have great respect for trans folks, but i also don't want to shut out terfs bc i want to hear them out and hopefully solve trans-radfem issues. i'm very much against echo chambers, even if some ppl annoy me w their takes. radical feminism tends to be waayyyy more open to peaceful disagreements and i absolutely love that. i really hope people see the good side of radical feminism and more ppl join the movement!
also i totally understand being scared of sharing those views bc you don't want to be shunned out. i'm the same way, i'm veryyyy careful about what i say around my trans friends. the grand majority of my friend group is transmasc nonbinary. though i've found that if i express explicitly trans positive radfem views, without calling it radfem, they tend to agree?? though some just totally shutdown, i think thinking abt their own oppression and agab freaks them out. which is honestly really sad to see. i want to heal afab ppl's misogyny trauma, bc it's so rampant and not talked enough!
anyways it's sooo good to find another tirf in the wild, feel free to DM me to be buddies :] ngl i'm not the best at responding quickly but i do luv making tirf friends, we're a slowly growing lil gang!
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danny phantom episode 4-7 Thoughts: (under a readmore because, these got kinda long!)
-the outfit danny had to buy for dash's party. CLASSIC 2000S i cannot stop laughing. And also showing up to the party and everyone is dressed like the trio is hilarious. and further proof that everyone looks good dressed goth.
-dash has a closet full of cute lil bear plushies?? LOVE that. adorable. also his response to danny trashing his room fighting a ghost was SO valid if somone BROKE MY BED IN HALF ID BE PISSED TOO.
-technus being like 'oh smart, u should be a tutor!' then later being like 'forget tutor, be a teacher!' :) supportive king <3 I also really like his upgraded suit/design. AND SPOCK CAMEO??? HELLO??
-the music in this show is super. its so funky. I looked it up and the guy who does it, guy moon (awesome name) also did music for other cartoons like fairly odd parents, barnyard, chalkzone, billy & mandy, AND some actual movies like FIGHT CLUB??? the whiplash I got from reading that)
-sam being rich explains a lot about her, actually.
-I know the moral of the episode was supposed to be 'dont ditch your friends for popular people/spend a lot of money on clothes that arent You to Fit In'. but tbh. it wouldve been easy for danny to have been like 'well, okay, ill come but only if my friends can!' but I get. that hes 14. so. not a lot to say there.
-BOX GHOST IS BACK!!!!! also, danny sitting up and wearing the dress/wig/makeup. umm thats how I dress everyday LMFAO. unironically me. (hate the jokes that boil down to 'haha funney man in dress' tho. but this is a look)
-jazz being protective of her brother once again being like NOOO YOU GUYS BETTER NOT STAKE OUT HIS (actually haunted) LOCKER!! shes aware of how people perceive him and she wants to help :( which is also probably why she told dash to invite him to that party even tho she had no interest in going!! she wants to help him out :(
-gotta say im with tucker on the whole 'should danny use his powers to get back at bullies' debate. 100% yes. let him teach kids to fight back. making dash throw his food at paulina out of the blue? no. but when hes actually about to pick on someone? yeah! for self defense? YEAH! if dash and his friends just threw food at him, I think rather than. idk doing sneaky shit with frogs he couldve just threw it back and not pulled punches if they tried to fight. I kNOOWWW its a kids show so they are like 'if u fight back ur just as bad!! violence bad!!' but. theyre HIS POWERS. WHO CARES.
-like my only gripe is that dash really isnt LEARNING ANYTHING WHEN DANNY GETS BACK AT HIM IN THE MOST PETTY INDIRECT WAYS. whatever they had to add a bully psa episode I guess. I hate it and I hate the way cartoons usually handle it because these methods simply Do Not Work. 'aND YouRE USinG YOur poWErs FOR EVill???!' this is Not Evil. even when poindexter takes dannys body, theyre only being 'nice' bc hes stealing soda for them!! bitches deserve what they get (nothing too brutal bc theyre high schoolers but damn, if they pick on danny he doesnt need to be the 'bigger person' he needs to start biting people)
-SAM TRYING TO SMUGGLE FROGS OUT OF THE BIO LAB?? girl in middle school when we had to dissect frogs we could opt out, also, they came to us already dead and preserved...
-sidney's lingo and the fact hes in black and white is sending me. also, danny is a ghost celebrity apparently for being a halfa?? ok. thats interesting to know
-the DENTIST BEING EXCITED ABOUT THE COTTON CANDY FLOOD IS THE FUNNIEST THING SO FAR.
-I LOOOVE the trope of 'wishes gone wrong'. not crazy about the stereotypical genie, or the use of the dreamcatcher looking design. (also, I KNOW theyre scientists but the way theyre handling a cold...are the fentons ANTIVAX)
-the genie. she. whitewished paulina. JKASDFHKJ. (the ghost literally just being hello kitty???? im dying) 'why do i feel that im special and wonderful? because I AM! <3' paulina ilu self worth queen. felt bad for her also getting possessed by (2) boys later who were arguing INSIDE HER. WTF.
-imagine being the guy trapped in his now flying car. he thought danny and tucker were HALUCINATIONS. imagine being trapped in a flying car with two, what you think are imaginary arguing 14 year olds convinced ur gonna die. i WOULD say this dude is gonna need so much therapy, but he seemed totally fine and excited when they landed (I would be happy too if a chicken was on my head. chickens rule) stoner rights
-sam's bat slippers??? iconic. SO cute.
-I think desiree's backstory is so :( do all ghosts have messed up sad backstories?? poindexter's was sad too...cannot imagine box ghost has any kind of fucked up backstory. but what if. his mom got pushed off cliffs by boxes...........a la cruella... anyway her 'no man may lay a hand on me' iconic. ilu
-I know danny has no concept of how much bras cost but my god dont attack tucker with some girls bra. those are so expensive.
-its really. well its not a GOOD THING he went into the portal and got fucked up, but its good danny was the one to do it rather than sam or tucker. because even tho he was being influenced by desiree and kept getting more malicious and it prob wasnt 100% him...he sucked as a ghost like most the people he 'pranked' were innocent ppl just Chillin and he didnt want to help anyone at all. I think danny is the most responsible out of them but also, hes 14 and shouldnt HAVE to feel obligated to fight every ghost. hes a good kid and wants to, but I also feel like he feels like...responsible for the portal turning on?? because his parents did give it up,, but it was an accident and not his fault (if anything, why was the on switch on the inside. why was it that easy. why was there no safety measures. that seems like smth OSHA needs to hear about). like thats my son. hes a good boy. and hes never done anything wrong in his life, ever. if anyone hurts him im killing everyone in this room and then myself. etc.
-danny's curfew is 10PM????? DUDE. when I was 14...shit I couldn't be out that late, I had to be back at like, 8 at the latest, and my parents had to know exactly where and who I was going with, AND i had to call/text them regularly...is this a case of my parents being overbearing, or the fentons sucking??? the only time i could EVER be out that late was if I was at an overnight sleepover or smth...
-the vultures have lil fezes. why do they have fezes...theyre so fuckin funny 'ask him for directions' 'I KNOW WHERE IM GOING' these ghost vultures are my new grandpas. pick them up, put them in the adopt box.
-'I wonder why those guys were trying to waste dad!' THEYRE GHOSTS. YOUR DAD HUNTS GHOSTS. why is that not a conclusion you'd immediately jump to??
-*jazz voice, clearly disgusted* WISCONSIN???
-mrs fenton with the lab coat and leg warmers and PERM. YESSS STYLISH.
-was going to say 'ew billionaire' @vlad but. super valid he used his powers to assumedly steal and cheat to get that money, thats how all billionaires do it! but ew hes a SIMP. and spending your billions on FOOTBALL STUFF?? you are Not Valid overall. I DO respect the fact you have a castle instead of a mansion. in wisconsin. if youre going to be stupidly rich might as well go all out, torches on the wall and all. I DO like his ghost form's little kitty ears. catman. and his cape! every design can benefit from a cape. and how different his forms look, like danny looks the EXACT SAME IN BOTH FORMS ASIDE FROM COLOR CHANGES. vlad's is like,, I could believe they were different people!! also I love the drama. but dude you are fighting a 14 year old. lame. also he was like, telling danny he wanted his mom and him and like, wanted him to renounce his dad?? WHAT ABOUT JAZZ?? bitch. those r MY kids and they are both important and special. I do agree they need better parents but thats not u sir <3
-I thought vlad's 'little badger' nickname for danny came from the football mascot of the packers, but google says they have NO MASCOT?? so now I'm like?? is it because his hair is sometimes black and sometimes white?? I hate to give him props but thats a PERFECT NICKNAME. theyre also tiny and vicious!
-why did I get so excited that Skulker is back!! its been like. 2-3 eps LMAO. AND THE DAIRY KING. ICONIC I LOVE HIM. hes the nicest guy ever :) more nice ghosts please. danny cannot be fighting alone everytime with no ghost buds like every ghost being hostile sucks :(
-mr. fenton knew vlad was controlling him, but a few episodes ago he had no clue danny was doing the same thing...is it something about how malicious the ghost is?? he just seemed to think his memory had gaps the first time, this time he was INSTANTLY LIKE 'GHOST'. then again in this ep when danny did it again he was just slightly confused but not immediately freaking out like he did with vlad possessing him!!
-'my parents will accept ME NO MATTER WHAT' so. so why haven't you come out to them yet, danny?? if you really think that?? if theres no harm, and you're sure??? if vlad is a real problem, wouldnt that make dealing with him easier, to expose him???? SO WHY HAVENT YOU COME OUT YET?? COULD IT BE,, MAYBE YOU HAVE DOUBTS ABOUT WHETHER YOUR PARENTS ACTUALLY WILL ACCEPT YOU??? š¤ ... š³āš I get why people say He Is Trans. I totally totally get u danny.
-sorta unrelated, but it just occurred to me in one of these eps they go to casper HIGH not casper middle school??? theyre 14?? dont highschools usually do ages 15-18? (I didnt go to hs so I might be wrong, if I am ignore this...) freshmen are usually 14-15, could just be a case of them not turning 15 yet but they will sometime in the school year (I say they because tucker said he was 14 too)? I know the show has 3 seasons, so by the end of it will they be older? thatd be neat but usually cartoon characters stay the same age...I love shows where you can see the characters age and grow up, though...three seasons seems like a long time to spend on like, 1 year...
#sanchoyorambles#danny phantom#me on the first post:#its not a liveblog!#me this time: it kinda is. but not in the same format as my tmm one#i like doing one post for a handful of eps bc it saves time#and crowds my blog less#and also i just like talking abt what im watching lol#dp thoughts
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I totally see what youāre saying about Ayo removing buckyās arm but I also looked at it from her perspective and we have to keep in mind that HIS protstetic can punch through walls and they were in a fight. Not cool that she did that and obviously something that negatively affected Bucky. I see why she did it but I still felt for Bucky and the look of fear on his face when she did it. Buckysās arm and his relashionship to it is smth that Iād love to see ppl talk about more (especially you bc you had some hot takes).
Also No hate twords you and anyone elseās sending anons should be respectful Iām sorry they were rude to you.
Hi! Thank you for the ask. I don't really get any so it was really nice seeing this :)
With the original post what I was focuing on with the arm scene was more the affects of it on Bucky rather than perhaps the action itself.
Which is why in the original post I didn't mention Ayo. It was just in the tags and not the focus of it. But i digress.
Looking from Ayo's perspective, it was actually a very efficient method of stopping a fight. Quick and direct. But I also believe this was not the kind of situation a failsafe such as that should really have been used for. If anything something like this would've have been more appropriate like if he was in WS mode like that scene in cacw.
While I think Bucky wasn't an active threat while he and Ayo fought, he is still re-learning how to express emotions properly (see: throwing zemos drink, not unwarranted but a strong emotional response) so in the middle of a fight yeah there's a good chance bucky the ex assassin super soldier that he is could have gone a bit too far with his metal arm that punches through walls.
So I understand the thought process Ayo had there. She went for a quick, efficient and non lethal way to disarm (pun intended) Bucky. There's no physical harm caused there so on a surface level these actions are understandably good startegy.
But digging deeper it does bug me. I don't think bodily autonomy and function should ever be disrespected. That's a stance I refuse to budge from. I know Ayo's actions were made as an attempt to deescalate the situation. And it did. The fighting stopped immediately.
Nevertheless it is still an invasion of his bodily autonomy. If a part of your body shuts down and falls away, it would be very disturbing on its own. But having it done to you, thats kinda dark. Not to mention the elements of body horror involved too. Considering that this man was used for 70 years and had little to no free will, his bodily autonomy stripped of him once more just pushes a trauma back onto him. Which was my original point.
Bucky didn't lose his entire arm when he fell. It was about half his arm. And then the rest was sawed off by Hydra, replaced with cold unforgiving metal welded onto him that forcibly made him a part of Hydra with no regard for him at all. When he was given the arm by the wakandans it was partially giving him back his own identity. They way that arm dropped to the ground, it was like his identity was stripped away once more. His face betrayed his emotions very clearly. There was a jolting vulnerability there.
I think it would have been better for him to have known that this was something they were capable of doing if deemed necessary. He could've played it off then. Sam could've called him Buzz lightyear. But that's not what happened, what happened was invasive but also bad writing. I know he wasn't physically harmed him. But he didn't seem okay emotionally.
I am critical of this scene for other reasons though too. The Dora gave them 8 hours before they were gonna take Zemo. I would have preferred to see them not engage Walker at all who was the essential cause of the fight. They should've gone straight for Zemo, someone who they know is a devious and deceitful and who used the commotion to slip away from the Dora. Writers should've given the Dora more credit and known that in world they would've been prepared for anything. This is why I found it purposeful bad writing. The scene pushed for a fight that wasn't necessary rather than the Dora logically getting zemo and getting out. Lots of stories do this as a way to advance plot. (Kinda like peter quill in IW fighting with Thanos, stopping everyone else from getting the gauntlet off him. Which was dumb writing. But If they got it off Avengers endgame would not exist.) So you get scenes like this.
TLDR: I don't blame Ayo at all. Bucky looked affected. The writing could've been improved slightly.
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One thing that felt uncomfortable to go along with in the CF route for me was when Edelgard lies about what happened at Arianrhod to her closest allies (Black Eagle Strike Force) and blames it on the church. Can you give some insight as to why she does this? Especially when Edelgard criticizes the church for lying to the people of Fodlan, but isnāt she doing it here?
Thatās certainly a moment that is genuinely ambiguous / a valid point of criticism and something Iād laud a whistleblower for exposing if it were a RL politician, but also the sort of realpolitik / appearance management that has taken place in most RL wars.Ā
Once youāre the leader of anything, allowing panic, division, etc. at bad moments comes with its costs. Of course this is hardly a carte blanche (see: Beating down legit protesters for superficial āorderā), but neither is it a factor that can be ignored completely.
At the point of the Arianrhod attack Edelgard was one month away from seizing control of the landmass and ending the large-scale fighting, having one enemy taken out (the Church) and being able to turn all her resources on the other (the Agarthans)
The agarthans at this point know theyāre losing control of Edelgard and theyāre not stupid enough to have any illusions about her loyalty. So they fire a warning shot to demonstrate their superior weaponry. Arundel makes a thinly veiled threat to fire it on Enbarr.Ā
Of course at this point he basically gave away his location and allowed Edelgard & Hubert to come up with countermeasures, but they donāt want him to know that yet, their strategy involves that they keep being underestimated, let the Agarthans keep thinking that theĀ ābeastsā have no counter for the nukes pointed at their heads.Ā
But they still destroyed half a fortress killing the ppl inside. If she reveals that sheās got a rogue faction infiltrating her ranks thatās firing frightening superweapons nilly willy, there will be chaos outrage and disunity right before the final battle. If she doesnāt make a statement at all and declares it a mystery, no one will believe it and her own faction will get the blame throughout the country. So what does she do? Pin it on the enemy she is currently fighting anyways. The purpose here is not to reveal the Agarthan situation too early so they can focus on the church for now.Ā
Itās unclear if this was ever revealed to the public (probably not, I donāt think sheād cause a stir on principle alone) but the ending cards make it quite clear that the Strike Force was let in on the Agarthan situation later and helped her mop them up.Ā
Yeah, itās defamation, an indisputableĀ textbook government cover up and maybe even technically a kind of propaganda, but her casus belliĀ existed before itās not like sheās basing it on the lie, and in most wars throughout history the factions have hidden or made a spin of failures & mishaps and made the enemy look bad.Ā
There are certainly many historical examples of such actions creating problems, such as fueling lingering resentments or creating general mistrust that can led to real information not being believed etc. so itās by no means a safe action that is no big deal and I can see how it could be a legit dealbreaker for some, you certainly werenāt supposed to be 100% comfortable with it, or anything on the CF route, everyone involves is well aware that theyāre doing ugly, costly things because (or so they see it) the alternatives are all worse. In that sense itās the most self-aware one. Itās about actually looking at the bottom line of consequences, not what makes you feel like a hero.Ā
At the same time, doing things like that that squander her moral credibility genuinely IS a flaw in Edelgardās leadership style - itās probably why more ppl didnāt believe her manifesto, āshe already lied to us cooperating with these shady guysā, making it look like aĀ āhe said she saidā situation to the wider public that canāt go & confirm the evidence for themselves. This is why Claude thinks he has a better shot at winning& implementing reforms in VW (ātoo shady for the ppl to get behindā) - just like Dimitri has no plans and Claudeās secrecy creating mistrust even when his secret plan is utterly benevolent.Ā Doesnāt matter how altruistic you are if you look suspicious it will have consequences I mean thatās how she loses on the other rouses, everyone ganks up on her cause she antagonized them all with suspicious actions. Iām not saying sheās any more perfect than the other 2.Ā
but putting that on the same scale as what Rhea did is comparing a candle to the sun.Ā
And maybe the Kantians in the audience will disagree with me but it can be a bit unhelpful to classify different actions of vastly different consequence and magnitude asĀ āLiesā. There is a common principle (telling things that arenāt exactly true) but different magnitude. Clearly āThe Confederacy was all great and gloriousā andĀ āI totally didnāt eat my little sisterās share of toffeesā arenāt on the same level of immorality.Ā
Neither is below the āeverythings fine and dandyā line but one is a lie about one incident for one clear purpose, and the other is creating a whole fake world view for the express purpose of control, maintaining harmful systems, suppressing any advancement of science & technology... for 1000 years.Ā
Scale, purpose and consequences are totally different. The arianrhod coverup coming to light would spark controversy & discussion on wether she should have done it under those circumstances; Some might change their opinion about her but overall everyone already knew that sheās not above dirty methods. If you told the average citizen of Fodland about all of Rheaās lies, everything they know would be wrong. They would go from Adoring & worshipping her to being very confused about whatās true.Ā
Itās the difference between your average modern-day politician doing backroom deals with diverse industry lobbies to accomplish their other goals, and a place like Saudi Arabia.Ā
To get perspective here, letās look at another example: Claudeās deceptions.Ā
He, too, ultimately wants whatās best for everyone and a lot of the time he decides to fool people to avoid fighting them, I donāt mean to bash him at all, but letās look at his actions in and of themselves:Ā
Look at the sequence where he, Hilda & Byleth rope the church into helping them - thatās even more outright with the slimy politician tactics: He tries to downplay alliance involvement though he is totally in control, he says thatĀ āgetting the church on our side will make fighting the empire look like a moral causeā implying that he doesnāt think it is one but wants to portray it as one to get pplās support, weāre told he made lots of promises to the merchants to get them on his side (so like thatās literal lobbyists), he installs Byleth as a figurehead, he tells the church ppl he wants to help them get back their old power when he really wants it to diminish and to drastically reorder the society.
He tells everyone heāll help them save Rhea but while he still has basic human empathy for her & what happened to her he makes it clear he doesnāt want her to go back to being archbishop... at all. He even does this with Byleth: āYeah, sure, teach weāre totally gonna save herāĀ though in their case he tries to hint that sheās not to be trusted for their own good. Despite his dishonesty, heās actually a very good friend to them imho. (#broTP)
In the end the power struggle between Claude and Edelgard isnāt personal nor a righteous struggle - heās just taking advantage of the chaos she caused and he needs the seat of power to reach his own goal. He thinks he can do it better and sheās in the way (and to be fair, she thinks the same about him)Ā
Itās your classic slimy politician: āheās pretending to be for family values etc thing but really he wants power & is in cahoots with economic interests and he wonāt do what he promisedā etc. ... except with the plot twist that heās deeply good and not actually all that ruthless.Ā Ā In a sense heās as much a total subverted trope as Edelgard.
So doesnāt he have the right to criticise Rhea either? Or do you see how, while not per perfect, heās miles better and not remotely the same?
Edelgard isnāt 100% truthful, but by and large, she made her intentions very clear with the pamphlets and stuff (even if it meant antagonizing ppl who were against that) and all her soldiers generally know what theyāre fighting for and are going to get out of it if they support her, or what the consequences will be if they fail, even if she kept some of theĀ āhowā to herself.Ā
Which isnāt to say that Claude ever makes ppl act against their interests even if itās sometimes what he sees as their interests.
Under Rheaās rule no one knew what the governmentās doing, why itās doing it, or to some degree, even that she IS the government... for 1000 years. Thereās some cult of personality going on. She probably genuinely believes that it does benefit the sheeple to beĀ āguidedā by her, but she hasnāt even told Seteth about all sheās doing, sheās pretty much accountable to no one.
In terms of honesty, we could probably rank the lords like this:Ā
Dimitri (a few omissions at worst)
Seteth (lies mostly out of self-preservation)
Edelgard (some convenient secrecy here & there)
Yuri (about the same as El but Iād put him slightly higher for the fake betrayal)Ā
Claude (no one rly knows what heās up to, but he gets ppl what he promised them and doesnāt outright betray them)
(very)
(big)
(gap)
Rhea (fake history, isolationist bubble, abuse of power left & right, manipulation, will smile in your face while planning to make you a meat puppet for her mom)
#fe3h#fire emblem: three houses#fire emblem three houses#three houses#edelgard von hresvelg#edelgard
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love your hot takes! was wondering if you could give your two cents on shipping/rpf in relation to idol culture, how more often than not these pairings are subtly if not overtly used as a marketing tool etc. Iām all for freedom of expression / fandom consumption as long as the fourth wall is respected but given recent developments in c-ent I feel like weāre treading on thinner and thinner ice....
EDIT you asked for my two cents and i gave u my entire bank account. nice
ok i wasnāt sure how to answer this tbh without possibly getting attacked but i have a pretty strong opinion of rpf/shipping and how people take it to the extremes and i talked to oomf who validated me so here i go
tldr i mean people can take part in shipping/rpf if they want to and if they keep it lowkey but thereās a boundary as to how far shipping/rpf can go and there are too many instances of where people insert rpf/shipping in places that are unacceptable and this goes for all real ppl pairingsĀ
iām not meaning to offend anyone, and in no way are my opinions discriminatory, but also, if youāre someone whoās gonna make HUGE stretches regarding to celebrities and push your favorite ships in totally unrelated things, maybe you should step back and think about how your actions can affect your favorite people
and iām totally stealing this from oomf, but hereās a thought: Ā if you ask yourself Ā 'if i met this person irl, would i feel embarassed if they looked me in the eyes and i read this out loud to them' and if the answer is 'i would look like a pervert stalker' then like........maybe don't do what youāre doing? Ā
pls respect ur faves is all n donāt make them uncomfortable ! ! and also pls donāt fetishize same sex relationships !
anyway
ok so let me start by saying iām a seventeen stan and when i was 15-16 y/o i shipped svt members, read rpf, etc, but never really was into overanalyzing every touch or gaze. i obviously enjoyed my favorite pairings interact and i read romantic fics about them. i wasnāt really into reading smut because for me, personally, fics using the membersā names and personalities even in au kinda made smut feel like visualizing the members in a sexual context and i felt like i was crossing a fan boundary, like, would my idol be comfortable with me seeing them in a sexual context with another member they tell us they consider as friends/brothers/sisters? or just in general, would they be comfortable with me thinking of them sexually? but hey, if it was a good fic i would just skip over the smut because good fics are good fics. now idk if itās because iām older, or other changes? i donāt really do romantic shipping or read rpf, i stick to reading fics about fictional characters because thatās what makes me comfortable (like if i ever rb two membersā interactions on my main, i stick to just tagging the members instead of their ship name, same goes on here for real people) and i still very much am uncomfortable w/ real people smut literature and art, but thatās just me
ok you see shipping a lot in idol culture because idols are in groups and members spend a good 90% of their time together, so whatever cute interactions you seeĀ kinda lead to people shipping two (or more ig) members. i never really thought about idol shipping culture from a marketing perspective, so i asked some of my friends, and one of them made a really good point about how some ships are more popular than others, and these interactions on shows and stuff might be a strategic/marketing tactic to lure in new fans because of theĀ āshipsā being cute. i donāt know how true this actually is, but it kinda made sense. for example, in svt, mingyu x wonwoo is a super popular ship, compared to ships like the8 x vernon which no one ever talks about, even though we know that all the members love each other equally and wholeheartedly. so yeah, there probably is a subtle pushing of certain ships in order to gain momentum in attracting more fans to the group
also iām gonna be using wonwoo and mingyu as examples but iām not targetting anyone or anything, just hypothetical situations w/ an idol ship that i noticed to affect the members because how out-of-control SOME stans are
so as i said in my tldr, i donāt really mind romantic shipping, as long as itās 1) lowkey 2) not pushed in places that it doesnāt belong and 3) not mentioned among the members
keeping it lowkey- pushing ships in everyoneās faces gets annoying. sometimes fans just want to enjoy idolsā content as they give it to us and frankly, itās a little offputting when youāre trying to watch something or enjoy something and hoards of fans are fangirling over a gaze or a touch between 2 members. keep it on your private acct, or in a group chat, not in the youtube comment section of the video. but still, men and women are allowed to touch each other and show affection without it being romantic, and i feel like shipping culture kinda invalidates the platonic relationship. like unless a pairing is confirmed to be dating, why even bother with overanalyzing these gazes or touches. and no, itās not homophobic for non-rpf fans to be annoyed, because sometimes fans just want to see the members as they portray themselves to be rather than finding a deeper (and unconfirmed) meaning behind every small thing. fans being like ābro itās just the touch of two hands itās not that deepā is not the same thing as fans going āewww iāmā not supporting them if theyāre not straightā . and sometimes i feel like people try to twist non-rpfers words and call them homophobic if theyāre not for shipping when sometimes people donāt wanna romantically visualize 2 people if theyāre an unconfirmed couple. how can you use lgbt struggles, which is an issue in society, to fight against people who simply donāt do rpf?? how are you use that as a weapon and for what ??? (also a good amount of people who do this are lgbt fetishizers who arenāt lgbt themselves bye i said it) why canāt we all jus be friends dudes
ok but if youāre against your idols dating someone of the same gender, thatās homophobic and you needa get that checked
but thatās different from treating two members as friends rather than bfs
but this being lowkey concept applies to any pairing, straight or gay, just keep it lowkey dudes. (like for ex we see yibo and meng meiqi shippers, which also doesnāt make sense to me because itās based off of literal crumbs but ok) itās ok to be rpfer or non-rpfer as long as youāre respecting the idols and keeping their best interests in mind
respect ur faves pls
not pushed in places that it doesnāt belong- people need to stop bringing up ships and pairings in randomass places. for example, if wonwoo is doing a interview, with mingyu being nowhere in sight, and heās talking about his hobbies and interests without ever mentioning mingyu, whatās the need to bring up mingyu?? people do it and itās so... weird? like wonwoo can do things without being constantly associated mingyu? one of my BIGGEST pet peeves is when shippers make these ships such a HUGE part of a membersā identitiy, when the members are doing so much w/ their lives? like no, not every move wonwoo makes, and every breath he takes is related to mingyu, but people still wanna have the audacity to mention mingyu in something completely unrelated? whatās your point?
RESPECT UR FAVES
not mentioned among the members in an uncomfy manner- like if youāre interacting with a real person, why are you gonna bring up a ship theyāre included in when you have so many other things to talk about?? like ok itās one thing to ask someone on a livestreamĀ āhey this event you guys did on xxxx show was funny, whatās the tea behind thatā but itās not okay to just mention a ship with no relation and no context to the situation. again, this counts as rpf-ers and shippers attributing a single ship to an idolās identity much more than what it actually counts as. no, wonwoo is not 70% made of mingyu lover and vice versa. we actually saw this between mingyu and wonwoo as people kept pushing meanie (the ship) to their faces, and we saw (andĀ still see) a much more decreased amount of interaction between them compared to them predebut, because shippers couldnāt stay in their lane. so yes, out-of-control shipping DOES affect idols and can be harmful to their relationships if you donāt control it
^ so yāall see why i feel so strongly about this, because it literally can affect these idolsā relationships on screen
JUST RESPECT UR FAVES
again, this applies for any pairing of any sexuality, iām just using wonwoo x mingyu as an example because itās something i saw when i was into rpf. i love both mingyu and wonwoo and they are wholesome together. i have friends who ship them and iām completely ok with that because they do it without posing any harm to the members, but some people just need to take a chill pill and a seat and calm down ????
so i completely understand that shipping/rpf serves as a creative outlet for lgbt+ folks and thatās completely fine, inspiration, love, cool cool cool. just donāt be so pushy about small interactions especially directly to idols. and as for rpf-ers, donāt let rpf give you a reason to start fetishizing same-sex relationships, that shits weird and problematic...pls
again, if you ask yourselfĀ 'if i met this person irl, would i feel embarassed if they looked me in the eyes and i read this out loud to them' and if the answer is 'i would look like a pervert stalker' then like........maybe don't do what youāre doing?Ā Ā
lol so this is why iām much more comfortable w/ fictional shipping, because these people donāt exist in the real world and donāt have actual lives and relationships to protectĀ
just respect ur faves omg and weāll be fine
āgiven recent developments in c-entā and me being a yibo stan and you sending me this strongly leads me to believe youāre referring to out of control bjyx cpf (yizhan shippers)Ā LOL
i donāt follow much c-ent besides xnine, uniq, r1se, and sometimes unine and the nine percent members, and honestly im not too into the fan culture so i dont follow ships there? so iāll focus on. this ship
to be completely honest, shipping for idol groups makes some sense to me because idol group members are with each other most of the time, thatās literally their job
shipping actors who havenāt confirmed that theyāre dating/no proof doesnāt really make sense to me at all--they work on one project together, and theyāre off to their next., with or without each other . we donāt know if they keep in contact every day, much less if theyāre into each other, but each to their own! my opinions and takes arenāt perfect and as long as youāre respecting your faves, it is ok~
ok so iāll start of with saying: obviously, i love yibo. i love xiao zhan. theyāre cute nd wholesome and evidently had good times together and learned a lot from each other regarding acting and being in the industry and just developing as people together. good for them, we love character development. amazing
is pushing bjyx a marketing tactic? most definitely yeah by tencent thanks tencent. i think you can see this through the amount of bts videos there are with just bjyx in comparison to other bts videos/interviews, even though there are many more important characters apart from wwx and lwj in cql, we donāt see as much side cast interactions as bjyx, and if we do, there arenāt that many w/ other cast members and yibo and xiao zhan?? relatively speaking
so yeah i think pushing this yibo x xiao zhan thing definitely was a tactic to further the momentum that wangxian was already having to attract stans, and it worked. like i LOVE watching yibo and xiao zhan bts videos because they are two goofs. love them. love my boys. love their camaraderie. and if people wanna ship, then go ship. cool! just be casual pls
i think where this becomes a problem is when people start projecting wangxianās relationship onto yibo and xiao zhan because...the latter are real people. yibo and xiao zhan =/= wangxian !!!!!! (ok first of all yibo is a gremlin how can he be the wang in wangxian in real life)Ā what wyb and xz show us in videos is nowhere near what wangxian is hJKNDJNWD and i see so many people just equate the two pairings...nooo... and combining everything mxtx writes about wangxian in the novel and projecting that onto wyb and xz...i donāt think thatās the move dudes they have their own lives theyāre not wangxian
my BIGGEST pet peeve is when people wholly credit wybās development as an actor and as a person to xz and vice versa. i cannot tell you how many times i see posts sayingĀ āwyb brought xz out of his shellā and vice versa and things likeĀ āxz looks like heās having much more fun than he is when heās with xnine, theyāre soulmatesā and etc
both wyb and xz have had years of industry experience before getting to know each other. theyāve gone through some of the lowest points of their careers before even getting to know each other well, and theyāve both found Their People in the industry before finding each other. to say that wyb brought xz out of his shell in a summerās worth of filming based on some bts videos is just so unfair to the bonds xz has made with his other colleagues and xnineĀ members and the accomplishments heās had before cql. same with wyb and his career prior to cql. and his uniq members, his ttxs bros, and all his other colleagues. these 2 have gone through some shit with their idol groups and itās just not fair for cpfs to erase the significance of their career prior to cql to support and find a leverage for their shipping. iām not saying all cpfs do this, but there isĀ a Good Amount That Do and it pisses fans like me off
they are not each others saviours bye
alsoĀ āxz looks like heās having much more fun than he is when heās with xnine, theyāre soulmatesā, if you guys ever watch xnine videos, youāll know that xnine is Loud. with members like wu jiacheng and peng chuyue being so loud and extroverted, it kinda makes xiao zhan relatively quieter. but heās still a gremlin and troublemaker and itās not like he isnāt having fun. heās just louder w/ yibo because yibo is more introverted than xz. relationship dynamics are relative to the relationship cmon people !!!! this is basic knowledge !!!! anyway that was a side tangent but ya
but ya my point is, wyb and xz have their own careers and theyāre doing their own things now, and itās unnecessary to bring up xz in an unrelated wyb post/article and vice versa, and itās just so so unnecessary to link them in everything??? like i heard that cpfs prevented xz from keeping his nomination for an award because yibo wasnāt nominated so xz lost the nomination ./rolls eyes
anyway my point being, if you wanna ship them then go ahead! just do it normally and donāt bring up the ship in unrelated places (like other dramas, tv shows, etc where theyāre not together), donāt spam them with bjyx related things, donāt make weird stretches/connections?? the other day on twt i saw a twt about uniq wenhanās drama, where he was being referred to as xiao zhan (little zhan) in the drama (differentĀ Ā āxiaoā andĀ āzhanā characters than actor xzās name) and i saw cpfs go āomg theYRE CALLING HIM XIAO ZHAN??? IS THIS FATE ORā like no it isnt maam itās just a name stop reaching
ANYWAY UNNECESSARY SIDE RANTS BUT MY MAIN POINT is that people are allowed to be shippers and take part in rpf, but donāt make their identities ā____ās loverā, donāt look past their current and past achievements for the sake of your ship, donāt erase their relationships with other people for the sake of your ship, stop bringing your ship into things that are only related to one person/arenāt related to your ship, stop saying creepy things about your ship (if you think the ship people would be uncomfrotable with what you say about them you probably shouldnāt be saying it)
just. respect ur faves pls no matter who theyāre with ...just respect them ty
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heyy! one of my friends is a cap sun/merc/venus/mars + a virgo moon and talking to him can get so EXHAUSTING and it's not just me saying this, a lot of other people i know say the same thing but i'm looking through the astrology point of view and i wanted to hear your thoughts on it. also is it true that virgo moons can be emotionally detached/have trouble expressing their emotions or does that depend on their other placements?
hey there!Ā šš¤ā¤ļø i totally get what you mean, I know someone like that too.. but I have to say this, once again, (as a precaution) try not form opinions of the sign/placements based on bad experiences. Just moving forward, in order to learn techniques and stuff properly. This is just a precaution to keep in mind?
About and For the Virgo Moon Person ā¬ļø
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Soā¦how do i say this.. virgo moonsā¦ they think alot because they want to help? thatās their mode of caring?Ā
In a way, being useful/thinking logically is how they provide help for others. Even if people donāt like them, virgo moonās detachment stems more bc they care about others than an actual detachment/isolation itself (i.e. see aquariusĀ detachment as well, but of a different kind than virgo).
I think itās that kind of thing y know - like, detaching ur emotions so u can still offer objectives first. But in a way they also like to over-analyze and over-think a lot of stuff. Especially emotions and how to deal with it/process it moving forward. I think thatās why a part of the archetype is those of a giver and ultimately self-sacrificial, because they will put other priorities before themselves - whether itās people, objectives, or getting their views across to help the situation.Ā
Even if they bury or suppress their own sensitivity and emotions a lot of the time in order to do that (provide help/offer assistance/support). Itās a good idea to keep in mind that they are burying it underneath.Ā
Letās look at it from their perspective for a second - youāve probably already realized this (or if not, itās never a bad thing to look at it again and maybe realize how empathetic they can be) - they process emotions themselves very logically, so when others come to them for help - they tend to give advice/reflect that back in the same manner, without getting too attached to the emotional side of things (being capable vs being too emotional).Ā
However, they ARE sensitive to the environment - to people around them + what is sourced. If they canāt identify the problem/isnāt sensitive to that - then they wouldnāt be able to offer any advice regarding it. Itās good to keep in mind, that the moon receives energy from others. So when their advice is criticized, thrown away, hurled back or hurled at them. They may hide behind a mask of indifference (bc, again, logic and understanding rationally that not everyone can like you) ā but it does still hurt.Ā
That kind of creates a loop contributing to how they suppress or have difficulties occasionally with expressing themselves, or letting themselves talk about stuff freely. Because as much as they want to help - sometimes they think theyāre not translating well, or is not helpful to others, the idea of what theyāre giving being the opposite of helpful - wasteful or a burden - sometimes repels them too (more like, āif it repels them personally it would repel others as wellā. Thatās how theyād think about it.)Ā
So. You can imagine what that would be like if youāre stuck in a loop of trying to be the Best Version of Yourself Possible (that you think is needed/that youāre proud of or accepted yourself as) but not being actually accepted by others - itās kind of a hard life to have?? Virgo/Pisces have this thing where being accepted is nice, is what makes it - ultimately fulfilling. They have a role in the universe and a function - and sometimes itās just hitting and hitting a metal bar until something fits - whether its a place, person, environment, life. Thatās when itās truly ok to feel accepted.Ā
I guess the best way to say this is that Virgos can think sometimes that emotions get in the way - which can be true - of fixing things. And thatās how they function?Ā
I can totally understand your frustration - especially if the person has a lot of Capricorn as well (wanting to be right, prideful, wanting to be Good and the Best even if they can be low-key about it!) - but, again, this is just very earthian. And ultimately - if youāre asking for my perspective, they deserve some empathy. Theyāre not? really doing harm to anyone. And sometimes itās just that.Ā
I donāt blame the person altogether, I think itās an everyoneās problem where no oneās developed or doing well enough to accept each other which is a? thing that happens sometimes in groups and maturity (the idea of developing). A boat is being balanced, someone needs more help than others because theyāre rocking it with their own personal problems - but it takes a team to actually keep it together and not throw them overboard.Ā
You donāt have to be friends with those you know you canāt handle right now, Iām just saying 1. look out for yourself, your own boundaries and mental well-being 2. hopefully this will help with empathizing with the person in question a little bit more. At least keeping in mind that they have their own perspective and emotional stuff too. and 3. If things donāt work out right now - donāt worry about it. Time is a long long journey, and people can grow and change - doesnāt mean you have to be there or be obligated to that.
Anyways, as an ending note I just wanted to say I do think Earth moons all kind of have similar problems with opening up - but emotional detachment doesnāt mean they donāt have emotions inside. Itās good to keep that in mind!Ā
If you need any advice on how to help this Virgo Moon person - usually offering detailed and logical advice right back analyzing the topic (whatever it is, like, hey lets talk about boundaries, or hey lets talk about how we both want to be treated?) tends to help. I think theyād appreciate it, just as long as it remains neutral and not a personal attack/direct criticism. Theyāre still a mutable earth sign, so they CAN get slippery if the tone isnāt right skkskskskkd but - otherwise, I think just spelling it out to them on how to DO stuff that you (and others) are comfortable with is nice.Ā
The problem with this combination is that they donāt KNOW if nobody teaches them. They donāt know what people expect, what other people require, theyāre trying to do their best figuring it out themselves and trying to provide from their own perspective. Feedback really helps, but done so in a way thatās like proposing a new concept to discuss/discover together. Rather than a criticism of how shitty they made someone feel.
I hope this helps??Ā šš¤ā¤ļø Again, if youāre interested in learning about this astrologically - try not to have prejudice by learning archetypes of these signs. It tends to help, alongside the placements.Ā
I think most of the time weāre trying to line up our experience with what weāve learnt, simultaneously at the same time. But sometimes we miscalculate and turn into our experiences over-blinding what we should learn. I recommend reading up on what the planet does as well - if youāre looking into further details about the topic! As it tends to help.
Right.. so. Hm! I canāt take all the credit for this myself, since I did have a long discussion with my friend whoās an Aquarius/Virgo. I think theyāre very empathetic, and it helped me a lot with how I wanted to form this answer. So Iām gonna add in some excerpt incase it helps:
Aquarius/Virgo friend:Ā
āi process emotions w a logical approach and when ppl for some come to me for help Iām v much able to help them and give them advice without getting emotionally attached at all? this sounds bad bc it sounds like im not emotionally supporting the person truly nhhhdh yeah it can be useful for advice and knowing how to go on from a bad situation nd move on but itās not always ideal since. duh. feelings r made toā¦ be felt.. properlyāĀ
ābut emotionally detached like FRā¦. idk manā¦. i think we care a lot abt people, we always want to help nd weāre not ok if theyāre not. virgos r actually v sensitive to their environment and how others r feeling as wellā
āand true i do feel like all earth signs have issues w expressing emotions. theyāre grounded nd they know themselvesā¦ so they all think theyāre self sufficient. or want to be or whatever. but ofc itās not true y'all do need somEone sometimes. but its hard bc everyone relies on earth signs i thinkā¦ so yeahā
ātake good care of Virgos. weāre sensitive. we need love. we want people to like and need us. weāve been through more than u know. yes i will process that you donāt like me logically but i do care deep down, Iāll just bury it so I donāt stop being logical. byeā
āalso as u know weāre really good over analyzers nd over thinkers nd w that being said pls reply u were typing but didnt send did i say something wrong i hope i didnt but i idk idk what Iām talking about but Ā am i dumb??? reply plsssksskkjsjd where are uā¦Ā Ā but then we never send these despite thinking them bc itās an earth sign supposed 2 be cool for everyone nd grounded all the timeā
Ā Ā So!Ā šš¤ā¤ļø Theyāre kind of worriers!Ā šš¤ā¤ļø But theyāre pretty harmless and nice once they learn how to relax and be chill a little bit more. I guess Iām saying sometimes you just gotta sit a cap/virgo down and be like my dudeā¦ mayhaps not?? and be done with it!!Ā šš¤ā¤ļø I hope this helps!Ā šš¤ā¤ļøšš¤ā¤ļøĀ
#astrology asks#virgo moon#cap/virgo#damn all that cap...#no wonder#caps are EXHAUSTING bc theyre serious about everything#i talk about caps being funny and fun loving#but sometimes like myself?? personally??#i know i take things unexpectedly seriously#esp with virgos bc we want to be the best or like#put our best foot forward#anyways#anon#asks
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Death Note personal thoughts
I saw a post about thoughts on āeveryone goes to Muā part of the manga by one of my favourite tumblr users - 13eyond13 and I originally replied to it, but I figured my thoughts were more about my personal feelings than adding something relevant to the original post, so I decided to post it totally separately here just for my own satisfaction. (also my English can suck hard, so if anyone decides to read this all, Iām sorry for any mistakes)
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I must admit I was rooting for Light and was truly a KIRA supporter at the beginning (till the moment he killed Lind L. Tailor), I also took the information from Ryuk about Mu as a fact for everyone just like Light did, but that's probably because I'm an atheist and I have lots of nihilistic thoughts, so Ryuk saying the āMuā part would only prove my own views and beliefs - the nihilistic aspect of the whole story is also one of the reasons why Death Note remained one of my most favourite mangas of all my time and why Iām so happy to have my love for it fully restored and be actively back in the fandom...
So yeah I agreed with the original intention of Light with the Death Note, he was pretty careful with what kind of criminals he killed, he "wouldn't kill those who killed accidentally or without malice like car accident deaths for example" (chapter 47), but I didn't agree with his God complex, that was probably the first thing that didn't click right with me even though it does make a sense as Light wanted to set new rules for humanity by his own standarts, I just donāt like the idea of āGodā or whatever, but the real endgame for me was the moment he killed Tailor, he didn't know if he was criminal, he killed him just because he challenged him. That was the point where I stopped rooting for him. I also saw killing Raye Penber and the rest of the FBI agents as even more unnecessary steps and also a pretty obvious way to cast suspicion against himself. But we wouldn't have a story if it wouldnāt happen š And I still loved his character even after this tbh :)
I must admit I don't value a humanās life as something more valuable than an animal's life (of course I do value my dearest's lives super lot, I would die for them anytime or rather I do continue living for them, but those lost humans' lives of people, whom I hadn't known personally, haven't heard their story or whom I simply didnāt like just don't spur any real pity for them in me, earth is overpopulated anyway, what truly upsets me in the worldwide spectrum is losing some extinct animal species - I even cry when I see the planet lost some animal species just because of the human greediness) and I'm sick of ppl making so much fuss over the loss of a human life than over animal's one especially if they don't know those humans personally. Death is part of the human life, sometimes itās unfair how some lives end, but the World wonāt stop spinning because of it and itās not like humans are endangered species... itās pretty much the other way around. I mentioned this bit of my feelings about general mankind because I was pretty irritated when the task force or someone in DN universe was upset with ppl dying even if they were/might be a piece of shit, just because itās āhuman life!! Human!!ā. Like - I loved Soichiro Yagami as a father figure and I really loved his love for Light, but I was totally done with him ruining Lās plans in Yotsubaās arc XD Same for innocent Light in this arc, but at least he didnāt try to do anything that would ruin Lās plans just to stop the criminalās deaths (Misa managed it in the end and everyone was satisfied thanks to that for the time being) XD
Back to the topic of using Death Note - I would plan to use it as Light did in the beginning, but target mainly animal abusers, it would also be super hard for me to find names and faces and 100% proof that they are the guilty ones. Also I would never think of myself as a God, that's totally stupid IMHO. I would be just a mass murderer like Light by human's standards. 'Murderer' is still a word invented by humans alone, so it wouldn't faze me as much as it fazed Light being called like that... Also maybe I would never use Death Note to the extent as Light did, because now even criminals have GDPR protection and their names and photos are often kept secret (which I find to be super unfair). Light would never commit a murder without a Death Note, and Iām the same (even though I canāt guarantee what I would do if I saw someone torturing animals/my loved ones in front of me.... I still think I would go berserk probably). Anyway even with knowing there is nothing after Death for sure, I would still try to make the world a better place by what I believe is right, I donāt care that it would seem evil to some ppl, I also don't give a shit there is no meaning for human's lives in the vast of the universe, I wouldn't care that this plan of making the World a better place would also mean nothing compared the whole Universe and its timeline... I would still try to do it, because it would satisfy me for the time of me being alive...
All humans have a choice to not hurt others, those who decide to do it especially when it concerns truly innocent human's lives or animal's ones (I truly hate humans, who abuse animals just for fashion, cosmetics, household products, money or for some sick sense of fun) just don't deserve their life in my mindset and I don't care how wrong it is in human society's view. I get especially angry when some criminal runs away from Borstal (because he is not put in prison as he is mentally ill and commited crime because of it) or from prison, of even worse when a criminal is released by the court for good behaviour or some shit and then that individual ends innocent life again.... in such cases I just get furious at the impotence of our laws because it means this individual can harm someone close to me too just as simply because āas a humanā he still has all the human rights even after he violated someone elseās rights, thatās just super unfair. I also don't believe in real peace, human race is not capable of it imho. That's why we have to have laws... and here Iām getting back to Death Note - our laws serve the same purpose as Kira's law did in my opinion, only Kira was more successful because it was pretty definitive and striked even those who otherwise wouldn't give a shit about our weak laws. There are people who want to live peacefully and don't need any law for that, then there are some who live in peace just because of the fear of our laws' consequences and then we have those who don't give a shit about laws because it won't cost them their lives... + a small group who don't give a shit even it would cost them their life... (we don't have a death sentence in Czech Republic anymore as it was deemed too "inhuman", I must add that I must agree that there are crimes where it's almost impossible to convict the criminal as 100% guilty and it's better to just put them in the prison - as I already mentioned I would have a really hard time using the Death Note because I would be too afraid I might kill someone innocent). So Kira's idea about peace was no different than the current worlwide idea of peace with our laws.
Now to get somewhere else for a bit - I fell in love with L and Near and I was quite happy with the ending of Death Note and how Light was served and killed by Ryuk. I felt a bit of pity for his death, but it didn't traumatize me like L's (or Mello's) death tbh. I woudnāt really change a thing about Lās and Lightās deaths anyway...
When I look at the overal picture of Death Note, Light still managed to save more innocent lives than Near and L imho. During his time the crime dropped by 70% worldwide. 70% is truly a large number considering the worldwide measure. A lot of innocent humans didn't die because of rapists and murderers thanks to Light. But as DN is pretty nihilistic the world returned back to the old standards after Light's defeat and the crime percentage grew back as it was before Kira's reign. So defeating Kira served right only to people who's lifeās purpose is fighting criminals - they need them to exist otherwise their job would be meaningless - and Kira almost took it from them. L's life purpose was solving crimes, but what would there be to solve if criminals were ceasing to exist? I see it as the main reason why he got involved in the Kira case at first even if he himself wouldnāt admit it. Kira was threatening his life's purpose. But of course that's just my impression. I still fell in love with L the most even if our views differed.
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Dunno if this whole rant makes sense or not but thatās just how I feel....
Death Note doesn't exist unfortunately and even if it would and I would get my hands on it, if it would be haunted by Ryuk, I would be definitely served by him pretty soon anyway, because he would probably get bored with me very soon š I'm not a genius and I would be afraid of harming innocent beigns, so I would be extremely careful with using the Death Note.
Might try to bargain with apples but knowing Ryuk it wouldn't be enough to keep him from writing my name down sooner than my time is up š I wouldn't even blame him š I'm simple and boring average woman, who is totally done with human race and most of the humans.
BTW I really love this little bit from the pilot chapter of Death Note:
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"But that would probably mean you'd have to kill the majority of mankind." š
(might delete this whole post later because of my social anxiety or if I get too roasted for my opinions, because I'm a coward š I do stand firmly behind my beliefs especially IRL but I also prefer to be invisible on public sites š)
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Realtalk(tm): Midnight Edition
MAN all that psychosis was some Seriously Weird shit . i keep thinkin about it
an d yet. im like, well, shit, in some ways, I Needed That?Ā
long Trauma Processing Post under the cut
a whole bunch was very, Oh, Okay, So I Was Right, and those General Things from Before (i.e. when I was a child) WERE serious mental health concerns, that still exist, that I need to not do a Mother on and goĀ āitās probably nothing/overactive imagination/just acting out for attentionā
and a whole bunch was very, like, well, just straight up disturbing frightening psychosis, of a duration and intensity new to me, and despite the bizarre and at times inappropriate content, it brings me a weird kind of relief to know i went Totally Batshit outside in broad daylight and nobody ever laid a hand on me? nobody smacked me? nobody yelled at me or got REALLY funny with me? they just, uh, let me go batshit off on my own? i almost certainly disturbed and/or offended some people, but no Punishment was dealt??????
like... the only people who spoke to me were (retrospectively obviously, at the time not obviously) concerned about my wellbeing, rather than trying to berate me and shut me up for their comfort? although i did still react internally as though that were the case. but like... How Delightful! the world i was walking through is MUCH kinder than myĀ āfamilyā ever was!!! those guys just saw a sick person? and not somebody beingĀ ādifficult/playing up/bratty/childishā??? wtf. iām still kind of like, is that for real???
and a whole bunch of the Episode was also āoh. okay. that was TOTALLY actually about this SPECIFIC thing from my past that is not always in my accessible life memories, but That Fucking Happened, And Its Processing And Integration Are Incomplete, because my parents were emotionally constipated and didnāt remotely know the meaning of Mental Healthā
some of it is Specific Incidents. a lot of it is about like... alternating fucking, like, total abandonment, then Absolute Surveillance And ControlĀ āWeā Have To Monitor Your Every Action AndĀ āWeā Will Punish You If You Do Not Comply To The Restrictions And Regulations
like ahahahha. okay backstory. as a kid-kid i had literally No supervision on the computer, no like, web filters, no time locks, stumbled across 4chan and whatnot far too young, nobody noticed for Years. which, uh, that is BAD parenting. that is REALLY bad form, and i was made to feel like that was My Fault, somehow. but hey! to me, this was normal! there was a whole bunch of weird interesting stuff on the internet that really distracted me from how shitty Coming Home felt! the computer is Fun!!!!!
and then!!! while i understand the INTENTION of this -- later on āTheyā brought in a whole fucking load of surveillance, moved me to the bedroom next to my motherās so they could ākeep an eye on meā, put software on MY school laptop to kick me off the machine, software on the router that monitored every single webpage i went on? i was in my mid to later teens by this point??? like, the point where most kids get MORE freedom and trust, not less?! literally i heard shit from adults likeĀ āwe canāt trust youā and now iām like. oh. oh, okay. yeah. thatās... not right.
now i was a quick boy and made myself a workaround in the form of an Ubuntu LiveCD, disguised as a blank disk that i kept with other CDs, and that lovely beast TOR worked some miracles for me. but like, what the fuck?? i was going to all those fucking lengths just to try and get some human contact with people who actually did care about me, Away from my hellhole family and equally hellish school. all the fucking Being Watched made me feel sicker and sicker, i was self harming more, hiding it better, hurting other ppl increasingly because i was acting in reaction to my own pain.Ā
like. you canāt like... go from total neglect, to fucking CIA levels of invasion of privacy. like, thatās abuse, thatās just going from one extreme to the other.Ā
thatās what was so jarring about it all? like, sometimes, there would just be Nobody emotionally available at home. that sucked, but hey, itās what i grew up with, i was used to it. then other times, it would be TELL ME EVERYTHING. I HAVE TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. EVERY INTIMATE DETAIL. NO SECRETS ALLOWED. TELL ME EVERYTHING. still with No emotional capacity there. and i was NOT used to that. that shit made meĀ āparanoidā. uh, fucking YEAH?Ā
like... anybody would get paranoid in emotional solitary confinement with people watching their every fucking move. shit felt like being in a cell with the guards walking past glaring at you through the food slot periodically. ācome out of the corner so I can see what youāre doingā and all that. i developed like... so many sides. to deal with it. constantly fucking flipping over.Ā
the priority was and is Maintain The One That Can Do School. Maintain Him. He Can Get Grades, He Satisfies The Mother, He Can Get Away From This. and i guess i did? and iām gonna get a degree, like, a real one, a fucking good one if i keep working as hard as i have been, which... well, shit, what else can I do? this is what i am Built For. but iād be like, flipping over with a side that is literally a terrified child that bolts to its bedroom and hisses and growls at threats outside the door. and my mother would say shit like āi think itās just your hormones.ā what kind of wack-ass shit. denial levels over 9000.
man like iām angry but numb to it? in a sort of, oh, okay, woah, is this what i was dealing with? is this the shit i was living through? and this was denied and minimized so many times, and so many people saidĀ āwell Iām sure she loves you really,ā that iād learned to say to myselfĀ āitās not that bad, she loves me really, sheās doing the best she canā when i was literally like... cutting so much i was bleeding thru my trousers at school? iād been trained to just like, dissociate so hard i couldnāt actually name or talk about ANY of the things that were happening to and around me that were making me feel so shitty?
YEAH so . that was Also Fucked Up.
and s///pinel like....... wsdfsjdghhjd what the fuck. huge mood. wanted while I was a fun little entertaining creature that could do Tricks and Impress and Make People Laugh!! and then i got Difficult To Deal With. Too Much. Annoying. and wasnāt emotionally valued any more! And I Turned Into A Fucking Unstable Destructive Maniac.Ā
yyyyeeeuuup i definitely totally did the I HATE YOU WHY WONāT YOU LEAVE ME BUT I LOVE YOU WHY AM I LASHING OUT AT YOU SO MUCH DONāT LEAVE ME I HATE YOU thing. it was not fun for anybody (understatement). and i have No Intention of living in theĀ āgrown upā version ofĀ āI hate you but weāre ~family~ so Iām going to politely tolerate your presence while Iām numb or miserable.ā iām not about it. no sir no way no how.
YH. yeah. okay iām gonna end this post Here because if i keep goin iāll get so mad I give myself a migraine RIP. thatās kind of a Whole Bunch huh.
#fliptext#trauma#self harm#dissociation#psychosis#ask to tag#surveillance#digital surveillance#neglect
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Hey, this isn't a question or anything, i guess i'm just looking for reassurance or w/e so sorry if this is annoying. but i recently realised i might be enby/genderqueer/fluid, not quite sure on all that lot yet but that's not important, but i don't particularly feel anything w any pronouns, i don't think i rlly have dysphoria at all, the thing i think bothers me most is my name but like it just feels like when smb uses it i don't quite connect it to myself and never liked saying it so that (1/2
(2/2) just feels like quite a tenuous thing to me tbh. and just yeah like i donāt feel like a cis woman and enby feels right but also like there could be other things and idk itās just a weird nothingness. i never rlly felt like i had to do girly things but i always put that up to being a lesbian ngl. my friend has started calling me sam and itās super sweet and i love her sm but also it doesnāt feel quite right but idk if thatās because iām not used to it yet or if itās because itās more common
(3/2 sorry) than my name so i already have connotations asso w it when other ppl say it rather than me to myself but also yeah ijdk. i feel a name isnāt enough but i also think iāve thought abt this way too much than a cis person would even if i still donāt know for sure? idk. sorry for this being so long, thanks for reading it. you sharing your story did rlly help so yeah thanks xx
Hi loveĀ ā¤ā¤ Youāre not annoying at all donāt worry. I know how tough figuring all this out can be.Ā
So obviously I might be totally wrong about this because no one can know you as well as you know yourself and Iāve only got a few asks to go off of anyway. But it sounds to me like a few things could be going on here.Ā
It could be to do with being a lesbian. Iām no expert but I think itās quite common for lesbians to feel that disconnect from the social construct of what being a woman is because so much ofĀ ābeing a womanā is centred around what you can do for men.Ā
Howeverā¦ I spent months and months telling myself that I must just be feeling odd about my gender because of my bisexuality so while it is perfectly possible that that is the case for you personallyā¦ it also seems like youāve already given that a lot of thought and still arenāt finding it comfortable.Ā
When you say you donāt have dysphoriaā¦ it sounds to me like you experience at least a little bit of social dysphoria, especially connected with your name. It can be hard to tell because the mainstream narrative of dysphoria is all about hating every aspect of your body but that isnāt the case for an awful lot of trans and nonbinary folks.Ā
And then you say that enbyĀ feels right even though you donāt think you experience dysphoria. Even if you donāt experience any dysphoria at all you might experience gender euphoria and connect with your gender that way which could explain why you otherwise feel that nothingness. You might be indifferent to your assigned gender and then much happier and more content in being nonbinary and trans.Ā
One thing that might help is experimenting with pronouns if you have safe people to do that with. I asked people to start using they/them for me while I was still identifying as cis to see how it felt and only after I realised how good it felt did I accept that I probably wasnāt cis. Thereās no harm withĀ experimentingĀ with multiple pronouns even if you end up deciding theyāre not for you or that youāre cis.Ā
Of course, it is also possible to be nonbinary but not consider yourself trans. I know I got shouted at a lot when I identified that way but me eventually changing my mind and realising I was trans had nothing to do with that. A lot of people consider themselves nonbinary because they are not fully their assigned gender but donāt consider themselves trans because they are still partially their assigned gender. That could be something else worth looking into.
I donāt know which of these things, if any of them, will turn out to be the right answer for you. But I hope it at least gives you some idea of paths you can consider. Good luck nonnieĀ ā¤
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My thoughts on Meghan and her dad
Pplās ignorance toward the situation with Meghanās father is so frustrating because they donāt understand an abusive relationship or what itās like to grow up with an abusive parent. Ppl often picture abuse as obvious and both parties being keenly aware of the abuse from the get go, making the abuser a perpetually evil and malicious figure and the victim as someone who sees the abuser in the same light. While that is possible, in the case of a narcissistic parent who is emotionally abusive to their child, itās not always so cut and dry.
Meghan and her dad probably had moments of genuine happiness where he was loving and encouraging but there could also have been moments where heād say disparaging things and be emotionally abusive to her. Because of that a child is left with trying to reconcile these two conflicting personas within their parent. They wrestle with loving the parent, while also feeling hurt and/or threatened by said parent, and trying to protect/distance them self from the abuse/hurt while also keeping a relationship with the parent because the child needs the parent in order to survive. Sometimes the child makes rationalizations for the parentās behavior towards them in an effort to understand (āI did something wrongā āI wasnāt good enoughā etc), but these thoughts/feelings are often the result of what the parent has said rather than reality.
For the first half of her formative years Meghan lived with her mom (after the divorce), so she saw what it felt like to live with a parent that wasnāt abusive. When she was I think 11 yo she went to live with her dad and did so until she graduated high school. People like to use this fact as evidence that she was close with her dad but to me, itās not sufficient to draw that conclusion based on this fact because we donāt know the reason for the move. It may well be that she didnāt want to move in with her dad but had to. Maybe he lived in a better school district, maybe his work schedule permitted him to look after her more than her motherās schedule at the time. Regardless of the reason, just because she lived with him for that time doesnāt mean they were close or getting along. I would assume that while she was staying there her dad was still being abusive only she was exposed to it more and didnāt have her mother with her there so Iād guess it was probably very difficult. I donāt know when Meghan realized that sort of treatment and behavior is abusive and toxic and I donāt know how she handled it but if I had to guess Iād say that sheās probably spoken with him about it but he just didnāt want to change because he honestly feels like heās not wrong, that sheās the one with the problem and heās the victim, the martyr parent who has done so much for their child; who sees Meghan standing up for herself as ungrateful and insulting to the time and money heās spent on her. It seemed like he was there financially but was very lacking in other areas as a father.
All of the warm recollections Meghan gave on her blog was probably her wanting to give him credit for the good things that he did actually do because despite everything heās her dad and she probably still loves and cares about what happens to him but sheās clearly made a decision to value and take care of herself first. Which is totally reasonable and the right call.
Itās not easy or simple when trying to deal with an abusive parent, especially when theyāre constantly going to the press and saying disparaging things about you in the media. Personally I think this man is harmful and should be cut out by Meghan. Heās in his 70ās right? If he hasnāt shown any want or effort to change by now, he never will. If he was willing to talk about Meghan like that in public, I canāt imagine what heās said to/treated her like in private. I can see Meghan AND Harry being hesitant bringing him into their lives when he is behaving like this (it would just be rewarding bad behavior); also theyāre probably thinking of their future kids as well. If I had a parent who showed no sign of stopping their abusive patterns (lying, manipulating, emotional black mail, disparaging comments etc.) I wouldnāt want them anywhere near my kid. People need to stop treating this man like he is a child. Heās a grown adult whoās responsible for his own actions. Not Meghan, not Harry, just him. Tom sr (as well as Tom jr and Samantha) are the only ones responsible for what they are doing; and also the media because they encourage this nonsense as well.
Meghanās relationship with her dad is complex. To truly understand it we would have to be privy to their personal lives, which we arenāt, so letās not attack/criticize how she is choosing to handling this because itās just not our place.
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oh yeah since my whole long text post got away from me the way all of them always do, i end up at the end of fourteen paragraphs being like āwait did i get to this basic point in any of this or forget it b/c i went off on a dozen tangentsā but its def strange to look at this as a Break for them, and as something they Needed to have happen, and as something directly based on their relationship at all. like where they were as a Thing was at its most chill and comfortable point ever really.....but that doesnt mean their lives were perfect and they were satisfied w everything? b/c this stuff is way more about them individually....like their own personal issues and their own dissatisfactions w things in their lives. like any particular relationship in someones life doesnt (and shouldnt) define their entire life and happiness......you can still have things as individuals you want/need to work out for your own sake to be happier w your life overall, and thats whats happening here. neither lars or sadie was happy being stuck working at the big donut, both being pretty socially isolated, both feeling negatively impacted by the pressure they felt from how ppl around them perceived them, neither seeming to have ever had the chance to be in an ongoing situation in which they can personally thrive and feel positive about the role they get to play, and other stuff i guess i did just make an overly long post abt last night. THATS the stuff these arcs are addressing for them (and that the shows been addressing for their characters the whole time really), their relationship didnt have anything to do with that stuff b/c them being together wasnt ever The One Thing they needed to find happiness and fulfillment in every single part of their lives smh.........thereās no way that them just āgetting a breakā from kinda? dating? was what they needed to suddenly make a burst of progress/development in these totally personal aspects of their lives. or even that they needed a break to be happy w their relationship...honestly they were doing fine. yes, being happier in any part of your life usually makes things slightly easier than across the board misery, and yes personal, individual development/change will have an effect on a relationship, what with a relationship being comprised of 2+ individuals and all. but everything that lars and sadie have ever done and experienced hasnt been solely for the purpose of their relationship. and the Pretty Alright place they seemed to be in re: each other wasnt like....What Needed To Change for them ffs its such a weird way to look at it and really like. nobody should think that a relationship means āsomething that means your whole life is perfect now and thus no part of it can/should changeā or āsomething that means you consider yourself 100% personally fulfilledā.......ppl should support their partners as individuals and not just strictly re the relationship, e.g. pursuing their own interests, focusing on their own problems even if they dont strictly affect the relationship. like, its not even a full step away from āyour one relationship should bring you all the happiness you need in life and ultimately nothing else matters / you should completely shrug off all your own personal needs cuz they shouldnt feel like a big deal to you anymoreā to the kind of fuckery shitheads will assert to make points like that their partners shouldnt need friends / anyone else to talk to / any other social interaction at all and nothing less than purely selfless sacrifice of their own wants & needs means theyre a bad partner harming the relationship and other person its so weird to say like. honestly theyāre just physically separated by billions of miles or something, clearly they are still fond of each other in the same way as before they left? and are not like, mentally stepping away from how they feel about the other person? just b/c neither of them are like, exclusively mourning the absence of the other doesnt mean theyāve cast off their relationship for a bit. lars is trying to freakin not die again and get himself and the other off colors to earth, & sadie is just like, still doing things because lars isnt there to do shit with and nobodys entire life is This One Thing. its obv good that both of them got to quit the big donut, even if only one of them got to do so voluntarilyācuz obv really the only plus side was working with your bud & they wouldve had to quit mutually. and itāll probs be nice for lars that like, heās still the same person and deeply insecure in how everyone thinks of him, and is right nowāb/c she isnt thereāhaving to completely trust that sadie still likes him and misses him, and heāll get to have that confirmed when he gets back. its not like any of this is like distinctly compartmentalized into Not Affecting Their Relationship vs Exclusively Affecting Their Relationship....iām so.....like do we have to do everything ourselves? do we have to do a 27hr presentation every month to make points to ppl who apparently dont really give 3 sec of thought to the dnads once over the course of the series. like damnit i know iām out here putting four days of thought into any 36second appearance of theirs, but why are other ppl apparently watching entire sets of eps about them w/o gaining like...any info abt their characters amateur hour im saying....... also like. just weird to see anybody talk abt lars and sadies relationship At All b/c usually all you see is shit from way back in the day when ppl were like wow. abusive....disgusting... (which is just an especially precious, cherished moment of life when you have really experienced abuse and get to see ppl applying the word to mean like, āconflict / tension,ā ābad decisions,ā āhurting someones feelings,ā etc....) or when you get a nice Cute Moment in an ep & the rest of us are like omg š© These Donuts.... like you canāt just frivolously invoke lars n sadieās Relationship Development in front of me like this and expect me to not have a wholeass speech about it lmao!! Iāve Been Here!!!!!!!!!
#another Quick Essay....i really have no restraint with these kinds of text posts........#donuts#long post xoxo āØ
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Thank you for pointing out that Byleth and Rhea's supports give off major creepo vibes. I've seen people say that Rhea genuinely cares about Byleth in non-CF routes and when I finished all the routes I was just like "uhh, where is it???" and her S-support honestly felt so tacked on.
I mean you do get thatĀ āIt was uncomfortable please donāt do this anymoreā dialogue option so itās not just me saying itĀ ācause of bias.
Though of course this is somewhat subjective. I mean there have been occasional posts where ppl were put-off by universal faves like Flayn or Claude because most ppl have some a list of personality traits that kinda set them off, rub them the wrong way or would be dealbreakers and its important to keep in perspective how much of that reaction is you and how much is the source material.Ā
Itās not inconceivable that someone would like her attention or have their sympathy overpowering any alarm bells.Ā
For me personally her death scene inĀ SS kinda seals the deal because she keeps talking to the crest stone in their chest to the very end... yeah she was dying and delirious but thats precisely it, lying or cushioning your statements takes more mental energy, itās like blurting out the truth when youāre high or drunk.Ā
The s support is relevant in the sense that she does admit her crimes in a watered-down fashion/ in so far as she understood them (ie, itās another point of evidence that this isnāt just something Edelgard made up or got from a dubious source, though really arenāt ppl seeing that Claude is also suuper onto her?)Ā
She also outright admits that she just wanted them to turn into Sothis until recently/ throughout part 1
To be fair she does protect them during the imperial raid on Garreg Magh and in Shambhalla, and this is what eventually results in her death, but given her last line that was allĀ ācause theyāre Sothis container -not to mention that she had her own reasons to want Shambhalla destroyed and fight to the death for that -Ā for the first time since the war of heroes, she is directing her anger at the real actual culprits. Now if only she couldāve done that to begin with!
Actually I think the experiments are some of her less bad deeds, because she created the homunculi from scratch and she didnāt expect to make a new person that would then get erased, but for Sothis to inhabit the new bodies to begin with - also from the example of Bylethās mom it seems like she let them live normal lives.
That doesnāt make it less shady that she definitely tried to spark a takeover with Byleth (why you think Jeralt was always sent of lots of faraway missions?)but in the end she had little real control over wether it happens or not.Ā
Thatās the one she feels the most guilt about because itsĀ āagainst the rulesā, but the wholeĀ āruling from the shadows for centuries, making people fight among themselves so she could rule, striking down all dissentersā part is actually waaay worse and had many more victims.Ā
Even here the problem is not even so much that sheās the ruler but her great incompetence. She never meant to have a world full of xenophobia, instability, inequality, crest obsession and corruption and she certainly doesnt want the agarthans running rampant acrosss the map but these were the side effects of the tools she used to keep power.Ā
Ironically she mightāve had a better chance finding the real culprits or just ruling the world better if she didnāt have prejudice against humans as a whole. Everyone who criticises her is the same as Nemesis to her, so, no investigation or discernment. Humans being savage and corrupt? Nothing she can do about it, itās in their nature.Ā
She probably THINKS, or convinces herself, that sheās just protecting the land like her mother before her (from Setethās and Flaynās worth they do view being the guardians of the land as their duty, and in her S support she says that she did it all āto keep the peaceā, though she does quite a lot in her mothers name that said mother would never have approved of) and keeping up this Benevolent Mother Figure look when sheās an extremly immature lost child inside with pretty shallow undifferentiated emotions. Some remorse is better than no remorse, but itās a fairly childlike remorse born out of being told the things she did are bad not understanding their consequences.
āIf my actions had anything to do with the war...ā Lady thereās noĀ āifā it was totally a consequence of the world your built and your own lies biting you in the ass, starting with the fact that there was no mechanism to vote you out, or even to convince enough noblemen to support, say, your more competent brother as a ruler, since youāre basing your authority on the local religion and you viciously repressed all dissenters before even asking questions.Ā
There were rebels left and right, produced by dissatisfaction - Edelgard was just more well-connected than most.Ā
Generally it seems overly cynical to probe the purity of someoneās motives when theyāre taking in orphans and outcasts, if the end result is than an orphan isnāt on the street thatās whatās important - but you have to see it in the context of her other actions. Itās like a billionaire supporting crooked, fuck-the-poor style politicians with all their money to get their own interests, and then donating to charity. Charity is good no matter who it comes from but doing an itty bit of good canāt balance out cavalcades of harm, even harm thatās just a side effect.Ā
She created this situation in the first place oh isnt she caring and merciful for not being completely indifferent to all its victims.Ā
IMHO what you see in CF seems like a pretty logical continuation of the same zealotry you see in Part I. Part I is basically you doing all of the Churchās dirty work for a year and they makes the ruling class do this at a relatively young age, as an indoctrination tactic . You donāt need to believe Edelgard or Claude, you just need to keep your eyeballs peeled.Ā
āso they learn never to turn their blades on the churchā as Rhea herself outright puts it... whatcha think that line means. Whyād she say that if she didnt regularly put down rebellions, orĀ āppl would lose faith in the nobility if they heard that one tried to use a relic and transformed into a monsterā, what they think that means?
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Why Iām questioning Sayori
I said Iād make this post so here it is! Even got on my laptop to properly do the post :p Iām just kinda winging this but Iāll try to list out everything I can. If I forget stuff Iāll go back and edit it later so if youāre curious, keep watch! Iāll reblog any time I make edits, at least somewhat big ones.Ā
Also, replies are welcome! Iām open to constructive criticism and anyone wanting to offer new viewpoints. I accept that Iām still learning and nothing is for sure yet. Also tbh anyone telling me I sound like Iām kin is validating as heck so if youāre thinking it then Iād appreciate you saying it ahaha, but please donāt lie to me because you think you know what I want to hear. I want the truth. I donāt want to be a confused mess ;n; And I know all/most of these could be COMPLETELY unrelated to being Sayori fictionkin, but I feel like theyāre worth mentioning anyways. Itās more like, a bunch of little coincidences rather than big solid evidence, Iām aware of that and thatās a big reason why Iām questioning and not for-sure Sayorikin.
One thing I realized just a couple of days ago is how, since I was a kid Iāve had this like, ideal thing I guess? how do I put this into words lmao my brain is dumb,, I guess a fantasy, that Iād fall in love with a childhood friend, like someone Iām close with from a young age but strictly friends for a long time. Iāve always been in love with the idea of falling in love with your best friend. And of course thatās what happens to Sayori, due to her programming in DDLC. And if Iām kin with Sayori from other game(s) rather than just DDLC then it definitely could be something unrelated, just a coincidence.
Iām like, really drawn to DDLC?? Maybe just because DDLC is a great game and I love all the creepypasta type stuff behind it all, all the theories and dark shit, and also I think just as a cute dating sim itād be great anyways (but nowhere near as great). But idk, when I saw it I immediately felt kinda drawn to it but maybe thatās just in my head or for some other reason like the characters look nice or smth.
Also it REALLY gives me feels. It makes me feel things in general. I rarely get genuinely scared from fictional stuff anymore but this game fucked me up. Iām still scared to play it on my own because, even after watching multiple youtubers play it multiple times, it still fucking scares me.
The Sayori suicide scene and her poem- especially the poem- really get to me. I saw people making hanging puns in the previous video before her death so it was kind of spoiled for me but even still, it got to me. And the scene where Sayori is freaking out because you deleted Monika before playing the game REALLY gets to me,, like I just understand that overwhelming, helpless feeling. Especially finding out why she acted that way, itās so fucking hard to watch that scene and normally Iām not affected by this kind of stuff. So either DDLC is extremely good at psychological horror or I have some sort of connection to the scenarios, whether that be just that Iāve been through similar things and am projecting (not really that I remember though? idfk brains are weird) or ya know,,, I once lived as someone in DDLC or whatever.
(TW self harm/suicide/choking) Probably has no real correlation but when I have panic attacks/flashbacks (unrelated to DDLC I mean) I feel like Iām choking or like I canāt breathe. And when really frustrated I tend to choke myself? Sayori died from asphyxiation instead of her neck being broken, by accident because she used a stepping stool instead of something higher like a chair and jumping off. Btw Iām okay, I never actually choke myself to the point to causing permanent damage or anything, and of course Iām not saying this is like, okay or anything. I know itās bad but Iāve done it completely on impulse, and this was all before learning DDLC even existed. Iām working on getting better and Iām not going to kill myself or anything, just thought Iād mention this.
I relate to her personality,,, so fucking much. Not just the whole pretending to be happy to make your friends happy thing, but how she is as a person besides her depression. Tbh I feel like a lot of people relate to her because of her depression and how she deals with it, but like sheās so much more than that. She pretends to be dumb but it actually pretty smart. Maybe sheās not the best with words but I think sheās a lot more intelligent than some people think. Sheās so cheerful, maybe even annoying, and is kind of the class clown, and is a total weirdo sometimes but itās GREAT and just,, same lmao. LikeĀ ālooks like my boobs are getting bigger again >:Dā is something Iād say lolol I just love Sayori so much, like idc if Iām kin with her or not sheās still fucking amazing.
Another reason I relate to her but probably is like not at all proof Iām Sayori or anything, just thought Iād mention anyways, but I was kinda like, really in love with my guy friend in high school for years, heās actually kinda like MC in some ways, like he was kinda popular with girls but not like Popular(tm), super nice and couldnāt directly say no, but he knew I was in love with him (or at least knew I had a crush on him but he probably had no idea I liked him THAT much but hey neither did I for a long time lmao) and didnāt like me back and even started intentionally avoiding me. Like, he would make up an excuse to not give me a hug, like he was late for class, but hugs only take like a fucking second what the hell?? It sucked but like when the player turns down Sayori I Relate.
I just,,,,, want to hug Natsuki like sheās fucking adorable and I want to protect her the most bc sheās like a precious child and sheās obviously abused by her dad. Tbh Yuri is a little creepy and for some reason I donāt like her that much but I mean Iād still hug her. I donāt hate Monika, like it was just her programming to do all that stuff she did so I donāt blame her and sheās p cool and Iād hug her too tbh. When Sayori interacts with Natsuki it makes me feel all warm n fuzzy. Like I donāt think in my canon Sayori and Natsuki were dating or anything, I think I/Sayori am/was just really protective? Idk, thought Iād throw that out there.
I also heavily relate to wanting to be a mediator and wanting to help everyone get along and be happy. I often (try to) play that role in this life. Iām extremely empathetic, so thatās prob why, but I canāt stand when people are fighting or canāt see each otherās point of view. Though it also frustrates the FUCK out of me when people refuse to or just absolutely cannot see any point of view but their own. Maybe thatās not really a Sayori thing but ye
When I look at Sayori I get the sameĀ āthatās me!ā feeling as when I see my kintypes. Who knows though, maybe in a month or two itāll fade, weāll see I guess. But right now it is Very Strong. Like Iāve somewhat questioned being fictionkin with other characters before but Iāve never had theĀ āthatās meā feeling this strong with anyone else. Ruby from RWBY is a close second but I still think sheās just a kithtype.
I feel like having a past life or whatever as someone who was experimented on kinda makes sense?? Maybe I just enjoy horror a little too much but I really think if I am Sayori Iām kin with her like actual her not just the DDLC version of her. The new game hasnāt even been announced yet but Iām so excited, mostly because I feel like I want to learn more about my possible past life I guess. I wanna see if things in the second game connect with me or if itās just DDLC. But I feel like, if Iāve had any past lives as any humans, they were probably really dark or smth. I kinda have a dark mind I guess and that would just make sense to me lmao, like Iām 21 why havenāt I grown out of my edgy phase, why the fuck am I still really into creepypasta? Damn.
Iāve been kinda obsessed with DDLC lately. I have BPD so it could totally just be a BPD obsession thing and maybe this obsession will fade and someday I wonāt care too much about DDLC, only time will tell. Also Iāve had the song Your Reality stuck in my head for a week straight but it may just be a catchy song and I tend to have a song that kinda automatically starts playing in my head occasionally, usually lately itās been Sad Machine by Porter Robinson (good song btw highly recommend)
Most likely unrelated but Sayoriās hair has been described asĀ āstrawberry blondeā on one wiki and my hair is like, light brown but reddish, though it looks more like Monikaās hair, especially because I keep my hair long. Iāve been kinda wanting to cut it but I like having long hair tbh and I feel like a lot of ppl donāt want me to cut my hair haha, though I really wanna get a short wig and maybe wear that occasionally (esp bc Iām non binary and wanna pass as more boyish sometimes, I know society will never accept me as nb bleh but anyways). Though, itās been said that the reason her hair is short is because itās easier for her to deal with, but Iām not 100% sure if thatās canon. Though I guess it doesnāt matter much? cuz multiverse stuff n all but, still.
Speaking of her appearance, she seems to not care too much about how she looks, which I relate to haha, especially because of depression n stuff. I mean I have Crippling Social Anxiety(tm) so I do care to an extent but usually Iām like, if someone likes me theyāll like me for who I am not how I look anyways. I donāt feel the need to dress super proper to impress anyone in casual social situations, like making friends or even going on dates (though Iāve only been on a real date like a few times and they were with my gf who Iād already been dating online for a while). And yeah a big reason sheās so careless about her appearance is depression but I think if I wasnāt depressed and she wasnāt depressed weād still both have that mentality like, we donāt need to impress anyone with our appearance so itās better to just dress how you want, whatever way makes you feel comfortable and happy with yourself and your body, than focus on being proper and stuff.
Maybe Iām just projecting but man I feel like a lot of stuff I do and my ways of thinking and stuff are very Sayori(tm). I feel like I am so much like her, like sheās so me. Though of course, maybe my reason for being kin with her is purely psychological. Maybe IĀ ābecameā her after seeing DDLC. Maybe I am her because I relate to her so much. But again, only time will tell. If I still feel like I identify as her (which, currently, I most definitely do) in a couple of months or so, then I guess Iāll start calling myself fictionkin. Idk.
#dc#tw suicide ment#self harm ment#ficitonkin#kin#ddlckin#ddlc kin#sayorikin#sayori kin#ddlc fictionkin#doki doki kin#doki doki literature club kin#hey uh I'm open to suggestions/comments/etc as long as you're not like here to tell me I'm stupid for thinking I'm fictionkin or some shit#thanks#questioning kin#questioning fictionkin#I appreciate help and advice guys
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