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Soo quick question, do you prefer cats or dogs? And why?
āIām more of a cat person, really.. (Mikeko would knock over my coffee if I said otherwise.)ā
āBut I used to take care of Mr. Gavinās dog every now and againā¦ I wonder how Vongoleās doing now..ā
#apollo answers#apollo justice#ace attorney#asks open#aa4#ask blog#aj:aa#rp blog#ace attorney apollo justice#kristoph mention#Vongole mention#implied to be#Sometime#post turnabout trump
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"and apolloā¦ i need you to be there, defending me. i need your power."
happy apollo has his first trial and loses his job day! š»āļøšā ļø
like this art? it's a print, here! | like what i do? support me on ko-fi!
seen lots of perceive fanart with polly looking stoic and cool so, what if i turn the anxiety up?
kept thinking about how freaky it must've been for him to focus for the first time so there he is, cutting the circulation to his arm bc the pain of focusing and his bracelet is a LOT
(im just a fan when people give his perceive ability side effects like really bad headaches and being very overstimulated and everything is just LOUD bc i go "ahaha, i do that." GDFGH)
seen lots of perceive fanart with polly lookin stoic and cool so, what if i turn the anxiety up? kept thinking about how freaky it must've been for him to focus for the first time so there he is, cutting the circulation to his arm bc the pain of focusing and his bracelet is a LOT
(im just a fan when people give his perceive ability side effects like really bad headaches bc i go "ahaha, i do that." GDFGH)
#ace attorney#apollo justice#apollo justice ace attorney#aa4#turnabout trump#gyakuten saiban#odoroki hosuke#odoroki housuke#sunnysidedraws#happy apollo unemployment day!#im queueing this so i dont have to remember to post it at the 20th . win for my brain#aa4 spoilers#anywasy this was last year's art forgor to mention that#i still like it tho!#sunnysideattorney
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Get felt up by another man and enjoy every second of it, apparently.
Oh okay.
#i feel like the fourth game really doubled down on the coding here#these are far from the only examples of Phoenix being not very straight#and Edgeworth isn't even in this game#idk don't take this post too seriously#phoenix wright#beanix my beloved#beanix#ace attorney#turnabout trump
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Do you guys ever think about how much Klavier Gavin loses over the course of AA4?
-- Hella spoilers for Apollo Justice (AA4). Go play it, it's a masterpiece. --
Where is Klavier during 4-1? Probably preparing for a show, knowing him. How does he learn about what happens to his brother? Who tells him? Not Kristoph, he's already been taken away. Is it his family? Is it Daryan? Or does he find out from the paparazzi after his set is done, all shouting at him "Klavier! Klavier, do you have a statement on your brother's arrest?"
I wonder what happens in the in-between. Does he go to Kristoph, demanding the "what happened" and the "why did you do it"? Does he get anything? Or does Kristoph just stare back and give him vague explanations that mean nothing in the grand scheme of it all? Does Klavier beg for the answers he doesn't get? Does he cry? Does Kristoph just stare back, knowing that eventually Klavier will give up like he always does?
Klavier is so flashy in 4-2. I wonder if it's a front. I wonder if it's the hasty bandage wrapped over the aching, still-bleeding wound. After all, he's up against the same defense attorney that got Kristoph arrested. And that attorney is good at what he does. In a way, that's its own loss. It means that Kristoph's arrest wasn't a mistake. There's no way that Justice screwed up. Kristoph killed a man in cold blood, with almost no motive. And Klavier is just expected to move on. His brother is a monster. Move on.
I'm almost certain he starts confiding in Daryan in the in-between. "I dont know what to do." "He wouldn't talk to me." "I need to cut my hair now." "I can't look at myself." "He was arrested, Daryan. He killed someone, Daryan." "I look like him!" "I don't know him at all anymore!" "What do I do? What do I do?!" "I hate seeing him when I look at myself." "I miss him." "I look just like him!!" over and over and over. It's him putting his head in his hands, desperate to block out the vision. It's the "C'mon, Klav, we've got a show soon," as Daryan carefully turns him away from the dressing room mirror.
So what happens in 4-3, when Klavier starts to piece together the case? What happens to Klavier when he realizes, in time with Justice, that the shoulder he'd replaced his brother with did the same thing? What happens as Klavier watches Daryan break down on the witness stand? What happens as Klavier watches him get led away in handcuffs? What happens now that Klavier is completely, utterly alone? He can't confide in his murderer brother. He can't confide in his murderer bandmate. Who else does he even have?
ā¦Justice? Apollo Justice, the man who got them both arrested? The man who pulled every little secret from the cases, who pointed the blame to them? Apollo Justice, the one that remains at the end of the trial, when the dust settles? The one who looks so proud of himself as he tears apart every person Klavier loves?
He can't take it. He can't take any of it. He hates the way he looks at himself in the mirror every morning, shaking off the sudden twinge of fear that he looks too much like his brother. He takes up smoking again, something he hadn't touched since turning the Gavineers into a serious endeavor. But the Gavineers don't matter much now, do they? He stops trying to get answers out of Kristoph. He does his best to not think about Daryan. He just wants to be left alone. He just wants to put his pieces back together. He can't get himself to pick up his guitars-- he nearly considers getting the ones in his office shipped off to a storage facility. Instead, he covers the case with bedsheets like he's a child again, and he starts safety-pinning newspaper clippings and red string to it. Maybe if he does enough digging, he'll be able to find out why Kristoph did what he did. Maybe, if he tries hard enough, he can shove the right evidence in Kristoph's face. Maybe, if he just does more, he'll be able to talk to his brother again.
It consumes him. He talks to no one. He barely goes home-- instead, he stays up for days at a time and collapses in his chair when his body succumbs to the exhaustion. He lives almost entirely off of coffee and cigarettes and whatever snacks are in the prosecutors' office break room. He looks awful. He feels awful. He stops making progress after a certain point, just falling into this awful, awful spiral of hatred and guilt and shame.
And it's nearly a miracle when Phoenix Wright comes to his office, asking him to help test a new trial system. He accepts without a second thought, not even bothering to check what case it was.
Oh, 4-4. Oh, when Klavier realizes with mounting horror what he's gotten himself into. When Klavier figures out that not only is his brother a murderer, he's a serial murderer. Kristoph has a seemingly never-ending web of lies, plots, schemes, and the like. And there's Apollo Justice, and himself, working in awful tandem to tear it all apart. Justice doesn't even realize that he's pulling Klavier apart at the same time, does he?
Klavier keeps looking at Kristoph, begging for any kind of retort. Any truth that can cut down Justice's line of logic. That retort doesn't come. The family closet's been full and shut for a long time, and now suddenly it's all being pulled out to the tune of "Objection!"
It's sick. It's an awful nightmare. He's not waking up from it.
Klavier is stronger than a lot of people give him credit for. But he's not strong enough for all this.
#and it's not like apollo MEANT to hurt klavier#but TWICE hes put away the people klavier loved.#apollo was just doing his job as an attorney. he was just playing his part#klavier just happened to get caught in the crossfire#and as they say... justice is blind#in other news ive been listening to mitski's āi dont smokeā recently chat#this is my first little adventure into posting quickfic character analysis in a loooong time please tell me if you enjoyed#love you all!! mwah mwah thanks for reading xoxo oh and big thanks to my besties who told me to post this here#kristoph gavin#klavier gavin#aa4#apollo justice ace attorney#ace attorney apollo justice#gavin brothers#ace attorney#apollo justice#daryan crescend#turnabout trump#turnabout corner#turnabout serenade#turnabout succession#aaaj#cenviswasteland#cenviswriter
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#ace attorney#apollo justice: ace attorney#aa:aj#apollo justice trilogy#apollo justice#winston payne#turnabout trump#the sound effects used are the kendrick lamar scream from tpab & āawwā from like that#observe my mediocre editing skills at work#jokey jokes#ace attorney meme#phoenix wright#beanix#kristoph gavin#(i guess?)#video post#shitpost
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āHappy second Pride Month to mein bruder, @firstclassattorney!.. Stop kissing my band mate.ā
#klavier posts#pre turnabout trump#24 yr version#ask blog#klavier gavin#roleplay blog#rp blog#aa klavier gavin#ace attorney klavier gavin#ace attorney ask blog
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MAJOR APOLLO JUSTICE: ACE ATTORNEY SPOILERS
So, I didnāt like AJ:AA as much as I thought I would.
Keep in mind that my prior experience with Ace Attorney (AA) before this was the Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Trilogy (1-3) and The Great Ace Attorney (TGAA) Chronicles, so I had very high standards. Iām a PC guy, so I just play the games when they get ported over. Also, I havenāt seen much discourse about this game, so I have no idea if my thoughts are a brand new hot take or the same stuff people have been saying for years. That said, here are my very long and drawn-out thoughts about Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney.
Apollo Justice is (not) doing fine.
Apollo Justice is a new defense attorney and the protagonist of this game, following up Phoenix Wright from the first three AA games. These are major shoes to fill, but moving to a new protagonist made sense - they essentially finished Phoenixās story in the previous game in the series. Justice is a less experienced attorney than Wright, so of course heād trip up a bit in court and occasionally fold under the tremendous pressure of prosecutor and air guitar extraordinaire Klavier Gavin (more on him later). However, Iām sure the writers could have handled this in a way that feels less frustrating to the player.
Most of the time, Justice appears helpless in the courtroom. He tries his best, but is ultimately forced into a corner by the prosecution. Ace Attorney cases are typically a constant back-and-forth between the defense and prosecution: the prosecution embarasses the defense, then the defense has a revelation and dominates the prosecution, then the prosecution dismantles the defenseās theory and forces them back into a corner, and the process repeats until a Not Guilty verdict is reached (with few exceptions). However, Justice tends to spend significantly more time crying in the corner than making a case for himself. Apollo certainly has his moments, but they felt far and few between. Half of Apolloās gimmick is his āChords of Steel,ā or his incredibly loud voice. Even if he has nothing to say, let my man shout. His mentor is THE Phoenix Wright, after all - let Justice bluff a bit, even if it doesnāt always work out at first.Ā
The other half of his gimmick is his bracelet, which lets him find minute details of a personās body language, and use that discovery to pull the person into the shadow realm to question them and extract the truth. This is a really creative idea which breathed some new life into the gameplay of the four cases, but I do feel like it could have been executed significantly better. In order to find the details of a personās body language, Justiceās vision excessively zooms in on a character, and the player is tasked with panning around with Justiceās super-powered eyes as the witness gives their testimony. When youāre that zoomed in, finding a slight twitch of a finger or a bit of moisture in a witnessā armpit can feel like finding a needle in a human haystack, especially when you have absolutely no idea what youāre looking for. Itās a great concept, but in execution, it proves to be more frustrating than enjoyable.
Given how helpless he is in the courtroom, I felt that Justice and his revelations donāt really drive the story as much as they should. More often, he just happens to be there in the courtroom as the story happens to him. This doesnāt change much as the game progresses either - he has some growth over the course of the story, but it isnāt really felt as the cases march onwards. Unfortunately, Justice never really grows the strength and mental fortitude to push the story and the mystery forward himself. Even when he does in Dual Destinies, it feels like borderline character assassination, but thatās a different game that deserves a different rant (coming soon?????). In AJ:AA, thereās another character who really pushes the story forward, constantly leaving Justice in the dust.
Klavier Gavin is ready to rock (a little too hard).
SPOILERS FOR ACE ATTORNEY 1 & 3 IN THIS SECTION
Klavier Gavin is this gameās new prosecutor, and he also has big shoes to fill - but for different reasons. Each Ace Attorney game up to this point has had different prosecutors facing off against the defense, and the standouts were undoubtedly Miles Edgeworth and Godot (my apologies to the Von Karma and Payne families). Edgeworth was Phoenix Wrightās first main prosecutor opponent, and he was formidable for many reasons - he was a very skilled prosecutor, he had much more experience in the courtroom than Wright, and he had never lost a case. Thus, when he experienced his first ever loss to novice defense attorney Phoenix Wright, he was horrified. He came back for revenge and lost again and again, until Wright defended him in court as the defendant against the legendary prosecutor Manfred Von Karma, causing him to re-evaluate. This made Edgeworth an incredibly complex and intriguing character, and a great opponent in the courtroom. Two games later, Godot served as the main prosecutor of AA3, and was also a hugely complex character due in large part to his past association with Mia Fey. Fey was Wrightās late mentor, and Godotās complicated relationship with both Fey and Wright made him a very interesting opponent, especially in the last case of the game. I still canāt hear the words āthe only time a lawyer can cry is when itās all overā without tearing up just a little bit. These prosecutors all went to war against Wright in the courtroom, and were devastated when facing defeat. Not Klavier Gavin, though. Heās different.
As Justice got his first Not Guilty verdict against Gavin, Gavin simply stood and smiled. He wasnāt banging on his desk or breaking coffee cups like two other prosecutors I know - he just stood and smiled. This created an air of mystery around him - why isnāt he upset? Did he want to lose? What is this guyās motivation? Although this left me feeling somewhat unsatisfied with the caseās conclusion, I moved on to the next case in the hopes that something would eventually be explained. But it wasnāt. Even as the game came to its conclusion, Klavier Gavin didnāt have a single major breakdown. It was as if every event of the game went exactly as he planned it. If thatās how Gavinās actions were supposed to be interpreted, then it makes for a very unsatisfying conclusion. Apollo Justice was the protagonist, and yet no victory was truly his - he was just guided along the correct path by the prosecutor on the other side of the courtroom. Gavin would often give Justice hints or lead him into a line of reasoning that Justice would need to win the case, which makes me feel like this was what the writers were trying to do with his character. Yet, with an āantagonistā that predicts your every move and is always one step ahead, you need two things: an overarching goal and a defeat at the hands of the protagonist. In Gavinās case, these two were in constant conflict.
Klavier Gavinās main motivation throughout the game appeared to revolve around his older brother, Kristoph Gavin. Kristoph was referred to as āthe devilā and was found to be the culprit of both the first and last cases of the game (more on both of those later), and I believe itās safe to say he was the overall antagonist of the game. Klavier Gavin, being his brother, had complex feelings towards him in theory - he loved Kristoph as a brother, but hated him for who he was and what heād done. This was also not executed well, as we (the players) were never really given a glimpse into what this relationship was - we were just told that it was there. The interactions between Klavier and Kristoph were very limited in number, and showed nothing more than the surface level of their relationship. Donāt get me wrong - I like it when details like that are just implied, and I donāt need every little thing spelled out for me. Still, I felt like their relationship was shown a little too much to be ājust implied,ā but not enough to be explored in any meaningful depth. When Kristoph was found guilty at the end of the last case, Klavier seemed happy, proudly declaring to his brother that āKristophā¦ itās over.ā It appeared that this was what he wanted, this was his end goal, this was his motivation. He got it - he won. Yet, this made for a very unsatisfying conclusion, as Apollo Justice was the protagonist, and he needed to win too. He won each case, sure, but Klavier never lost. Klavier was always one step ahead of Justice, and he got what he wanted without much difficulty. The protagonist never truly won if we consider Justice to be the protagonist, but what if we consider Klavier to be the protagonist?
In order for Klavier to function as the protagonist, he would need one thing that he doesnāt show nearly enough of: character growth. The first time we see him, heās already a successful prosecutor AND the lead guitarist, singer, and frontman of a ridiculously successful rock band NAMED AFTER HIM. There isnāt much further to go from there. He shows this success in the courtroom too: he appears cocky and confident, forcing Justice into corner after corner, with a charismatic smile that rarely leaves his face. His only point of weakness seems to be his brother. Supposedly, heās always lived in the shadow of his brother, and this is his chance at redemption - but is it really? What part of headlining a rock band NAMED AFTER YOU is living in your brotherās shadow? What part of his long, successful career as a prosecutor is in his brotherās shadow? His confidence wavers a little as he faces his brother at the end of the story, but that is the only time heās shown interacting with his brother. Ultimately, Klavier stares his brother down, watches as Justice corners Kristoph in a cross-examination, and smiles as his brother is taken back to jail for good. His demeanor never changes - he never seems any less cocky, and he always has the same exact smile. Itās as if the story doesnāt affect him. This is frankly frustrating to watch, seeing all his potential as a character go to waste. He has minimal character growth, and the little he has isnāt earned. Klavier is a bad antagonist and a bad protagonist, as if the writers had no idea what to do with him.
If you want my theory on the matter, I think the writers really wanted to create a character that people would like. They saw the peopleās love of Edgeworth, of Franziska Von Karma (to some extent), and of Godot, and they wanted to replicate that feeling. In their attempts, though, they forgot what made those prosecutors so loveable. Yeah, they were quirky and charismatic little guys to some extent, but they were also powerful foes who proved to be mountains for Phoenix Wright to conquer. We hated them as enemies at first sight, but as we got to know them better, we came to love them as friendly rivals. Not only that, but they all grew as characters in meaningful ways. With Klavier, they tried to rush the process, and it didnāt work out. They wanted us to love Klavier from the start by making him cool and a bit quirky, but that was all on the surface level. We loved what laid beneath the surface of Wrightās relationships with Edgeworth, Franziska, and Godot - we loved the depth of their characters and of their stories. In order to give Klavier and his relationship with Apollo that kind of depth, they would have needed to build Klavierās character up much more over time. However, that would mean that Klavierās character couldnāt already be perfect from the start. The writers assumed that we loved the previous prosecutors because of how cool they were on the surface, but they missed everything beneath the surface level that was truly the foundation for our collective love for our foes of the past. Then again, thatās just my theory - I have no idea what was actually going on in the writerās room at the time.
I did like Klavier Gavin as a character, I just didnāt love him, and I honestly think heās my least favorite main prosecutor of the series only because of the high standards set by other prosecutors. Nothing will beat out my love for Godot and the TGAA prosecutors, and unfortunately Gavin didnāt even come close. In fact, my favorite case from the game is actually the only one he isnāt involved in.
Case 1: Turnabout Trump (lives up to its name).
I would like to clarify that the game and I are referring to the verb ātrump,ā which means āto get the better ofā (Merriam-Webster Dictionary). I am not referring to the former president of the United States. This game was released in 2007, 9 years before the start of the presidency of Donald Trump. It was released 15 years after Trump played his prolific role in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, though. That seems important.
Nonetheless, I genuinely believe this is one of the greatest opening cases in an Ace Attorney game, right up there with AA3 and TGAA 1 & 2. It does a great job of introducing Apollo Justice as an attorney and putting the player into his shoes, while showing that his heart is in the right place but he still has room to grow. Unfortunately, he never wound up growing that much in this game, but thatās a problem to take up with the rest of this gameās cases. This case also functions as the playerās introduction to the overall mystery of AJ:AA, and Justice acts as your eyes into this new world of unsolved mysteries. This game takes place 7 years after the previous game in the series, and the old protagonist, Phoenix Wright, is very different from how we last saw him. AA3ās conclusion saw Wright win his hardest (and best-written) case yet as a successful attorney with a growing history of success, but AJ:AA opens with Wright as a disgraced, disbarred former attorney, working as a pianist that canāt even play the piano. Heās even the suspect of a murder in this opening case. Naturally, the player has to wonder what caused this, which sets them on track to uncover the mysteries that the rest of the game has in store for them. Apollo feels the same way, and thus your motivations align as player and protagonist. This helps the player better connect with the new protagonist, and Apollo Justice already feels at home as the new head of the Ace Attorney series (until Dual Destinies at least). Not only that, but the other new character introduced also proves to be fascinating and intricately connected to the mystery at hand.
This case also functions as the playerās introduction to Kristoph Gavin, a renowned defense attorney that appears to be friends with Wright, and Justiceās mentor. He walks the player through the tutorial, which is not only useful from a gameplay perspective, but also portrays him as a reliable character from a storytelling perspective. This seemingly tiny detail makes the player trust Kristoph more, just like Justice does, and thus puts the player further into Justiceās shoes. Mia Fey gave the same instructions to Phoenix Wright in the first Ace Attorney game and she was very trustworthy, so the player would subconsciously think of Kristoph the same way they thought of Fey, putting them on the same pedestal. Justice trusts Kristoph as his mentor, so once more the player feels better connected with the new protagonist. This isnāt the only way the game tricks the player into trusting Kristoph, though. Typically in the first case of an Ace Attorney game, there will be four or five major characters - the defense attorney, the prosecutor, the defendant, the witness that turns out to be the true culprit, and possibly a mentor or partner for the defense. Thus, when the witness (Ms. Olga Orly) takes the stand, the player would naturally assume that theyāre the true culprit - itās happened in opening cases in games prior, and it would proceed to happen again in future games. Kristoph tries to guide Justice (and the player by extension) to accuse Ms. Orly, which would naturally make sense to the player. They trust Kristoph and theyāve done this song and dance a few times by this point - it must be Orly. However, Wright leads Justice and the player in a different direction, with the knowledge that Orly isnāt the real killer. Instead, itās actually Kristoph Gavin himself, in a massive betrayal and twist as the writers flip the opening case formula on its head. Wright takes the stand next to you as you prove your formerly trusted mentorās guilt, sending him off to jail. The writers completely subverted the playerās expectations over the course of one short case.
Additionally, this perfectly clues Justice and the player into the mysteries of the game, without revealing too much. The player knows just enough to wonder, but not enough to have any answers. What happened to Wright? Whatās with his pendant? What was Kristophās motive? What arenāt they telling us? All of this gets the player (or at least got me) genuinely interested and excited for the events to come, especially after this wonderfully-written case. I was worried that these cases wouldnāt be able to live up to the ridiculously high bar set by their predecessors, but this case proved that the writers were more than capable. At least, I thought it did. Youāve already seen the first two sections of this essay, so you know that this game did not live up to my expectations at all. In addition to the previous games, I blame this first case for setting the bar way too high for the rest of the game. Because of this case, I expected the rest of the game to have superb writing and direction to match this masterpiece of a case, but it didnāt. I felt that the rest of the gameās cases - 2 and 3 - were just okay at best. They certainly had their moments, but ultimately, they were just average. I donāt have much to say about them (although Iāll touch on them a bit in the āother things I want to rant aboutā section), but after all the mysteries introduced in the first case, there was a lot hinging on the grand finale: case 4. I was still extremely curious to find out the answers, but ultimately, the way they were delivered was nothing more than a letdown for me.
Case 4: The MASON System (has an error).
I have a LOT to complain about for the fourth and final case, so Iām splitting it up into two parts, like how it was in the game. I know Iām skipping over the first half of the case, but my main criticisms really lie in the caseās dramatic and disappointing conclusion. First, Iāll be talking about the portion taking place in the MASON System, which frankly just confused me and took me out of the experience. I can only suspend my disbelief so much, and this weird and unexplained segment pushed me over the top. Iām still not entirely clear on what the MASON System even is, but Iāll do my best to explain what I experienced inside it. As the player, you see what appears to be a loading screen, and then youāre shown a black background covered in moving green binary code, just like something a hacker from of a cheesy 90s movie would see as they hack into the mainframe (as you can see in the image above). In front and facing you is Phoenix Wright, who appears to be talking directly to you. Heās not talking to Justice anymore, because Justice isnāt here, wherever or whatever here is. Wright appears talking directly to you, the player. The player is later revealed to be seeing through the eyes of āJuror No. 6,ā but Iāll get more into that in the next section since it isnāt revealed until the end of the case. It also doesnāt explain how the juror got immersed in the MASON System or what it even is, but I digress. Wright then tells you that you can use the system to jump through space and time in order to experience Wrightās memories and to find the ākeysā (evidence) to unlocking the truth, which youāll then use to find the real truth of the mystery.
If you got lost somewhere in that last paragraph, me too. The game doesnāt explain how the MASON System connects to anything else in the game (or in Ace Attorney canon for that matter), how it knows Wrightās memories so intimately that the user can fully re-experience them, and why Justice can only get that game-changing evidence after some random juror experiences Wrightās memories. As far as Iām aware, this is the only time something like this has been done in Ace Attorney, and for good reason: it completely breaks immersion. Even if Wright isnāt actually breaking the fourth wall, it certainly appears like he is, which is not something Ace Attorney has ever done in a serious manner before, outside telling a player to press a certain button in a tutorial. The presence of Juror No. 6 is used at the end of the case to show that it wasnāt actually a fourth wall break, but that was long after the player left the MASON System and long after my inversion was ruined. I can accept weird and barely explained concepts in Ace Attorney - in fact, Iāve come to expect it. However, these usually follow a set of established rules in the Ace Attorney universe, so the player stays immersed. Thereās nothing realistic or sensical about Wrightās āPsyche-Locks,ā the Fey familyās ability to summon spirits of the dead, or really anything in Spirit of Justice (Iāve only played the first case, donāt spoil it for me). However, itās an established rule in the world of Ace Attorney that magic exists and certain people can wield it. Thus, despite not being at all realistic, it makes sense in the context of the world. The MASON System, however, does not. I still donāt really understand it, and honestly, my enjoyment of the game is heightened if I just forget about the system itself and just remember what happened inside of it.
Even if I didnāt like the MASON System as a concept, I have to give credit where creditās due: I did enjoy experiencing Wrightās memories and slowly starting to piece together the truth of the incident that led to Wright getting disbarred and the apparent death of Thalassa Gramarye. There were two ongoing mysteries at that point - the case of Magnifi Gramaryeās death (and Wrightās disbarment) from 7 years ago, and the case of Drew Mishamās death in the present. These two appeared to be inseparable from each other, and the truth about both would have to come out together. In truth, Iām kind of a sucker for mysteries where the past and present collide, even if itās on the verge of becoming an overused trope in the Ace Attorney series by this point. I love figuring out the truth behind a long-lost case of the past and using that to answer questions about the present, and the MASON System delivers that perfectly. I especially love the use of Psyche-Locks throughout, which are essentially visualizations of secrets that people hide. These appear when a person is hiding something from Wright, and by presenting evidence, you can crack open these ālocksā until the truth is finally laid bare. In this section, you slowly pick away at Valant Gramaryeās Psyche-Locks as you explore and gain new evidence. You figure out the existence of a secret as you question Valant, explore somewhere or someone else until you have the right evidence to force the truth out of him, then come back and land another blow that gets you ever closer to the truths behind Magnifiās death and the Thalassa incident. This allows the player to see how close theyāre getting to the heart of the mystery, and is certainly much better than any use of Psyche-Locks in Dual Destinies, where you already have the evidence from the moment the locks are put on display. Then again, thatās another essay for another time. I may not like how the writers used the MASON System to link Wrightās past to Justiceās present, but that was a very satisfying part of the mystery to conquer - if you ignore the MASON System itself, that is. Now that the answers to the mystery are starting to make themselves apparent, all the writers had to do was to stick the landing and call it a day, but it felt more like a belly flop than anything.
Case 4: Turnabout Succession (was not a success).
SPOILERS FOR THE GREAT ACE ATTORNEY 1 IN THIS SECTION
Most of case 4 played out like the rest of the cases in this game: just okay. It wasnāt exceptional, but I donāt have any major problems with it either. My main issue was the way the case was concluded, with a strange turn of events that felt out-of-place and caused a generally unsatisfying conclusion that ultimately made the journey feel like a waste. To explain this, let me give some context about Phoenix Wrightās adventures before and during the events of this game. Despite having been disbarred for presenting forged evidence in court, he was still very involved with the legal system and creating change within it. Specifically, he wanted to incorporate a jurist system into the courts, meaning that the verdict would be decided by six jurors instead of just a judge. This trial would be the first in the country to use the jurist system, and would be a test of this new system. Additionally, itās revealed at the end of the trial that the player takes the role of a juror, Juror No. 6. This is the same character that experienced the MASON System just prior. Given all this information, you might be wondering: Why does Phoenix Wright have the power to alter the trial system in such a drastic way? Why would the verdict of a ātest runā of a new system decide whether the defendant, a 19-year-old girl, spends the rest of her life in jail? Why does the player, who plays the role of the defense attorney, also get to play the role of the juror who decides the verdict of the case? And to those questions, I have no answer, and neither does the game. The end of this last trial entirely revolves around this ājurist systemā subplot, and yet it feels tacked-on and pointless in the grand scheme of the gameās story. Donāt get me wrong, this isnāt a bad concept - Kristoph Gavinās breakdown at the hands of the jury showed a glimpse of everything this game could have been. Yet, it just felt improperly executed, as if the writers just forgot about it until the last moment and scribbled down a couple new plot points at the end to make it fit. Furthermore, the whole concept of a jurist system as it existed in AJ:AA just isnāt compatible with the Ace Attorney formula. The judgeās decision is an integral part of a trial, and the only reasonable way they could make it work would be something like the system in The Great Ace Attorney 1 & 2. In TGAA games, the jurors are right in front of the judge, and both the defense and prosecution can argue directly to them. Instead of maintaining the idea of an anonymous jury decision behind closed doors, Dual Destinies just pretended that the jurist system was never introduced, which was honestly a smart decision if they wanted to maintain the classic Ace Attorney formula.
At the very end of the case, the player takes control of Juror No. 6, and gets to make their vote to decide whether the defendant is guilty. The player, who has been arguing that the defendant isnāt guilty to the court for hours, gets the chance to decide whether or not the defendant is guilty. As you can probably tell, there is a correct answer. An Ace Attorney game with multiple endings is a cool idea in theory, but in practice, thereās really only one ending in AJ:AA. If you choose to declare the defendant ānot guilty,ā you finally catch the real killer and happy music plays as the credits roll. If, for whatever reason, you declare the defendant that youāve been defending for multiple hours āguilty,ā then youāre told that the defendant died in a hospital bed and youāre kicked back to the main menu. The credits donāt even roll if you decide to indict the defendant. The idea of choice is a very important one to this gameās story, yet the one real choice the player is given has a correct answer, and the game punishes you for answering incorrectly. Once again, this doesnāt feel thought-through at all - it was just tacked on at the end for seemingly no reason at all. Still, that doesnāt mean itās a bad concept. For instance, what if it was used in a case like āThe Adventure of the Runaway Roomā (case 3) from The Great Ace Attorney: Adventures? That case was an incredibly interesting case for a number of reasons, including the fact that it was the protagonistās first time acting as an attorney in a court with a jury. But more than that, it was interesting because of one ginormous detail of its beautifully unsatisfying and unsettling conclusion: itās never made clear whether the defendant did or didnāt commit the crime. You get your ānot guiltyā verdict from the jury, but you never get a magnificent breakdown from the true culprit, and the defendant acts smug and suspicious as heās given permission to walk free. In this case, there wasnāt a right or wrong answer, and neither the player nor the protagonist are ever given an answer as to whether or not they did the right thing. They just have to live in suspense and pray that they didnāt just set a murderer loose upon the world. If the final case of AJ:AA was structured more like this, it would make sense to have the player make the decision, since it easily could go either way. However, this isnāt at all similar to what the case actually was, leading to immense disappointment instead of the unease and intrigue it should have provided.
Even so, there was one thing this ending did right: the reveal of Juror No. 6ās identity. By this point, Thalassa Gramaryeās true identity has been revealed as not just the wife of Shadi Enigmar and daughter of Magnifi Gramarye, but also the mother of Apollo Justice as well as the mother of Phoenix Wrightās adopted daughter, Trucy Wright. The key to this realization laid in the bracelet she had on her wrist, which was identical to the one worn by Justice which gave him his powers. However, during his investigation, Phoenix Wright also learned that Thalssa had an unfortunate death in an accident years and years ago. When Juror No. 6ās perspective is shown as they look down on a screen with options for āguiltyā and ānot guilty,ā a reflection is shown on the screen, vaguely showing the face of a prominent witness from āTurnabout Serenadeā (case 3) by the name of Lamiroir. She always wore a hood and a mask over her face, which I assumed was just meant to make life easier for the animators. Still, it was instantly recognizable, even if it was just a faint silhouette. Additionally, her sleeve extended up her arm, showing that beautiful and recognizable pattern the player had seen numerous times behind the witness stand. Yet, as the player controls her arm and moves it to the āguiltyā or ānot guiltyā buttons, her sleeve falls down, revealing a golden bracelet - identical to the one worn by Apollo Justice. Thalassa Gramarye is still very much alive, and sheās living life as Lamiroir. I was grinning ear to ear with my jaw on the floor as the answer to the gameās final (intentional) mystery was revealed - exactly how I should feel at the end of an Ace Attorney game. The reveal was subtle enough that I felt smart for figuring out what it meant, but obvious enough that it was near-impossible to miss. The game doesnāt outright tell you what it means (until a wrap-up scene right after), but instead takes a look at the puzzle of answers youāve been building up throughout the story, and gives you the final piece. Because of this perfectly-written moment at the end, the game actually left a pretty good taste in my mouth, despite everything I just complained about. I may not have loved a lot about the ending of this case, but this one detail almost makes it all worth it. Almost.
Other things I want to rant about
SPOILERS FOR ACE ATTORNEY 1 & 5 IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH
Iāve talked about all my main points of controversy about this game, but thereās still a bit I want to get off my chest about a few other topics. I donāt have as much to say about these as I did about my main topics, but this is a comprehensive essay on nearly all of my thoughts about Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney, so why stop now? First, letās talk a bit about the man in the picture above: Phoenix Wright. Honestly, I liked the way the writers treated him in this game. Introducing the former lawyer extraordinaire as a washed-up bum raises a lot of intrigue from the player, and seeing him in his natural habitat at the defenseās bench supporting Justice was a satisfying thing to see. To Justice, Wright serves as a mentor. Although heās a very different character now, he still has the intelligence and the whimsy that Wright is known for. Heāll act mysterious when it comes to important topics and heāll get serious when he needs to, but heās also just telling dad jokes and reminiscing on his days of presenting his attorneyās badge to every person he saw. Heās an old, retired veteran of an attorney, and a hero for Justice to look up to. Yet, at the same time, heās a weird and silly old dude with that same old silly sense of humor heās always had. It would have been very easy to essentially pull a character assassination on Wright by putting him into this role, but the writers of AJ:AA walked the tightrope perfectly and gave the foundations for him to be a great mentor to Justice and possibly take on a role similar to that of Mia Fey for the rest of the series (with or without dying). I have mixed feelings about their decision to bring him back as an attorney in Dual Destinies instead of just entrusting Justice (and maybe Cykes) with the lawyering duties, but then again, thatās another essay for another time.
While weāre on the topic of characters, thereās one more I wanted to rant a bit about: Trucy Wright. As I mentioned in the last section, Trucy is the adopted daughter of Phoenix Wright, and plays a role as an assistant in this game similar to Maya Fey in past Ace Attorney games. (Which makes sense, since Trucy is Justiceās biological sister. Wait, as Iām typing this, Iām realizing: were they ever told that they were siblings? Thatās their character dynamic, but Wright just says at the end of AJ:AA that heāll tell them when the time is right. Was it still not time yet by the end of Dual Destinies? THEY DESERVE TO KNOW!) Trucyās profession at age 15 is that of a magician, being the sole true heir to the legacy of the famous Gramarye family of magicians. I like her character and her role in the story overall, but I have one major complaint: why are the writers so obsessed with this 15-year-old girlās panties? The first major magic trick of hers thatās shown is her āmagic pantiesā trick, in which she can make things appear and disappear into her panties. Her panties essentially act as a pocket dimension, like Mary Poppinsā bag. For whatever reason, the writers KEEP COMING BACK to the same panty trick, OVER and OVER and OVER. Itās supposedly her most popular trick, and yet neither she, her adopted father, nor Justice ever question why an audience of grown adults is so keen on seeing this 15-year-old girlās panties. In so much of anime and so many anime games, thereās that one episode or that one scene that you just canāt defend, and in this game (AND IN DUAL DESTINIES TOO) they just canāt let it go. As much as I love her character, this is the one sin I canāt overlook, no matter how much I want to.
Thereās no way to talk about Ace Attorney without talking about the music. I donāt have any real analysis to make about the new tracks in AJ:AA, but I do want to say that I really like the new direction they took with the music in this new game. Justice is a new protagonist, so his music shouldnāt sound exactly the same as Wrightās, but it should still be recognizable enough to feel like a proper Ace Attorney game. The OST of AJ:AA does this near-perfectly. Even Justiceās āobjectionā theme goes by a different name: āA New Trial is in Session.ā Justice is his own person and his own attorney, and this shows the new direction that the Ace Attorney franchise would be going in from here on out. This is another detail that was written out by the writers of Dual Destinies, for the better or worse, but the people behind AJ:AA had no way of knowing what the next game would do. Justiceās new tracks all have a uniquely āApollo Justiceā feeling to them, from the objection theme to the pursuit theme to the all-new āperceiveā theme for Justiceās body language-reading abilities. Klavierās theme feels perfectly cool and high-energy, and Kristophās theme feels like the exact opposite with a slow and methodical feel. Also, the various little easter eggs revolving around Klavierās theme never failed to make me laugh, from hearing it in a live performance in case 3 to hearing a little pixelated version of his theme as his ringtone. And for the guitarās serenade, well, I could probably write a whole paragraph about that. Actually-
Lamiroir was introduced in case 3 as a singer from the fictional Eastern European country of Borginia, and a very talented singer at that. Weād later learn that sheās actually Thalassa Gramarye after getting shot, losing her memories, and being presumed dead, but thatās neither here nor there. There may not have been enough space on a DS cartridge to fit high-quality human voices, but there was enough space to fit a midi file with a high-pitched part that represented the singing voice of Lamiroir. This track is one of my favorites of the entire OST. Towards the beginning of the case, you witness a joint performance between Lamiroir and Klavier Gavin, entitled āThe Guitarās Serenade.ā Youāll be hearing this track again and again as you analyze the video for evidence over the course of the trial, and also because you just want to hear the song again, turn on your phoneās flashlight, and wave it back and forth over your head to the beat. Despite being such a small audio file without any actual human singing, it perfectly displays the soft, gentle, and beautiful nature of Lamiroirās voice. The Ace Attorney games usually just have to say ātrust me broā after telling you what a witnessā voice sounds like, but this is the exception. Additionally, parts of the song are used in Lamiroirās theme, giving it that same gentle, majestic, and elegant energy found in the song. This made it very easy to like Lamiroir as a character, which only added more magic to the reveal of her true identity at the end of the game and its story. Iām honestly not sure if I want her to return in a later game for more, or if Iād rather not hear a worse interpretation of her character that sours the memories of her character in this game. I guess all I can do is place my trust in the writers, no matter how hard of a task that may be.
Now, for a (not so) quick rapid-fire round: Payne was really funny in the first case as he completely lost control of the trial, which became a duel between Wright and Kristoph Gavin. I still see Kristoph and his devil-hand in my nightmares sometimes. Ema Skyeās return after Rise From the Ashes (bonus case from AA1) was really fun and cool to see, and I enjoyed the return of the forensic examination techniques. Seeing the Kitaki crime family after having played through the entire Yakuza franchise was really funny. The reveal that Patriarch Kitakiās shades were actually just huge eyebrows covering tiny little baby eyes was absolutely hilarious. Wocky Kitaki is a baby version of Akira Nishikiyama if he was a furry and also straight (or maybe Alitaās betrayal is what drove him to loving men?). Trucyās Mr. Hat magic trick is her best trick and Iām honestly appalled that it never showed up in Dual Destinies. Borginians speaking in wingdings is really funny, and Iād love to hear what that sounds like. Valant Gramarye is very evil but also really funny so I think he should be pardoned. Little Trucy in the flashback is really cute, and I love Klavierās flashback outfit. Kristoph going super-saiyan in his breakdown is really funny and the animation is perfect. I love how everything new they did with Phoenix Wright was explained by just those seven years since disbarment, rather than adding even more things to his backstory (although I think it would be really funny if in a future Ace Attorney game, they just added a bunch of random details to Wrightās backstory then explained at the end of that game that none of it actually happened and the villain was just messing with their brains with magic) (hit me up Capcom I have ideas). I really loved the credits sequence with all the printed pictures. All in all, I feel like I didnāt love the parts of this game that really mattered, but the little unnecessary details were all perfect. Anyway, I think itās time to wrap up this rant - itās gone on for long enough.
The verdict on Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
Now that Iāve dogged on Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney for 27 paragraphs and over 7,000 words, I feel like itās time to say that itās not actually that bad. A rant this long can only come from a place of love, and I absolutely love the Ace Attorney series. I started playing the Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Trilogy in late 2021, which was a pretty bleak time for me coming out of the pandemic. During the pandemic, video games were the only things that really kept me going, giving me something to look forward to day to day as all the days blended together into one blob. Because of this, the games I played at the time all hold a very special place in my heart: Persona, Halo, Devil May Cry, Yakuza, Ace Attorney, and so many more. Maybe my experiences with the games were altered by the conditions of my life as I played through them, but still, I know just how amazing Ace Attorney can be. Thatās exactly why I felt so upset playing through this entry of the series - I know the writers can do so much better. The game wasnāt really that terrible as a video game and as a story, but when it has to live up to the brilliant standards set by the Ace Attorney franchise, it just falls flat on its face. I did really enjoy my time playing through this game and I did really enjoy all of the cases, but I just know that Apollo Justice and Klavier Gavin had the potential to be so much more interesting and to be written so much better. Iām not going to give the game a numerical rating or anything like that because that system has no room for subjectivity, but I would genuinely recommend the game to any Ace Attorney fan who finished the first trilogy (and maybe The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles) and is looking for more - in other words, anyone like me. I may not have loved this game as much as some other games in the series, but I do not regret one second I spent playing that game. If nothing else, it gave me this chance to reflect on myself, my thoughts, and my feelings about the series as a whole. Iāll always be grateful for that, and rest assured my love for the Ace Attorney franchise will not fade anytime soon.
Iād also like to briefly say that, if you read this far into the ramblings of an insane Ace Attorney fan, thank you. I wrote this to get my own thoughts and feelings off my chest, but if anyone else reads through these words and gets literally anything out of them, then this was all the more worthwhile. And if youāre a vehement Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney fan whoās foaming at the mouth with pure rage while hate-reading my rant, please tell me why. I donāt mean this as a joke or a diss, I genuinely believe that the ability to debate and argue about the things youāre passionate about is one of the greatest joys life has to offer. While Iād rather not have any death threats sent my way, I would still greatly appreciate the chance to keep talking and thinking and debating about this messy yet beautiful game in one of the best series of stories Iāve ever had the joy of experiencing.
And as a thank you for reading this far, Iād like to let you know that Iām a screenshot addict. I cannot stop myself from taking a ridiculous number of screenshots every time I play a game, and itās killing my hard drive. I still have a lot of really funny shots that I wasnāt able to include as section titles, so without further ado, here are someā¦
FUNNY SCREENSHOTS!!!!!
#happy to finally get all this off my chest#maybe someone out there will read all of it#not counting on it though#maybe a rant on dual destinies is coming at some point in the next 5 months???????#this post is kinda important to me#I'm gonna put a ton of tags so hopefully at least one person reads at least some of this#ace attorney#apollo justice#apollo justice ace attorney#apollo justice trilogy#apollo justice ace attorney trilogy#phoenix wright#phoenix wrong#trucy wright#judge ace attorney#klavier gavin#kristoph gavin#valant gramarye#lamiroir#magnifi gramarye#zak gramarye#thalassa gramarye#shadi smith#shadi enigmar#trucy enigmar#daryan crescend#turnabout#turnabout succession#turnabout trump#turnabout corner
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Heās so stupid
#ace attorney#turnabout sisters#idk how to say it but he has trump vibes#does redd white have a tag#redd white#oh so he does#general my post tag
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of course, turnabout succession is an AMAZING case but man. imagine how but better the last trial section would be if we got to actually see klavier and apollos thoughts on kristoph throughout the rest of the game.
the first glimpse we get of the gavins dynamic is at the end of turnaboit succession. we get ZERO indication of what klavier thinks of his brother or how kristoph treats him before that! though its a great moment seeing klavier stand up to kristoph, it feels like the end of a character arc that never began
apollo, i feel, works with what they were going for, but i think what they were going for was Really Boring. though kristoph was his Ace Attorney Mentorā¢, they never really had a stronger relationship than "employee and boss." so apollo thinks this situation is really fkn weird, but doesnt feel personally betrayed
thats fine and all, but imagine how much more dramatic and emotional it would be if he had considered kristoph a friend! first of all, itd make turnabout trump tell us a lot more about his character: he values the law above all else, even personal relationships. thisd make his growing dissatisfaction with the justice system yknow, actual growth! and this could be shown through krisophs little speach about the law being unchangable and perfect. as it is, it kinda comes out of nowhere - it emphasises the games message to the player, but within the game he has no reason to say this. theres been no indication up until that point that this is something feels strongly about! but if it had been shown a bit in turnabout trump, and apollo had inherited those ideas and spent the game unlearning them.. it wouldnt just be a moment showing how kristophs bad, it would be a mark of how much Apollo has grown too!
and like, its FINE how it is. but it could be so much better..
#sorry for the constant aa4 posting i just replayed turnabout succession in prep for FINALLY PLAYING AA5 AND 6#i tried very hard for this to not just descend into headcanon but thats very difficult to do when talking about apollo and kristoph#because they are NOTHING. their dynamic is NOTHING. they feel NOTHING towards each other#alastop#ace attorney#aa#aa4#aa4 spoilers#apollo justice#klavier gavin#kristoph gavin#turnabout succession#turnabout trump
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Playing apollo justice for the first time ever. Imagine its yr first trial and halfway through it your mentor and your client start getting catty like that. I'd lose my fucking mind.
#i š how a good portion of turnabout trump was just kristoph and phoenix being passive aggressive as hell#like arent yall in your 30s. start saying what you really mean my god#OH HEY. also real funny how aa 2 gives you the magatama... and apparently aa4 gives you. sharingan eyesight#sure. whatever. what the fuck does that mean actually#aa posting#š” incoming transmission š”
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god damn i need to go to bed im thinking about this shit yet again making myself insane
#i just gave my krisnix manifesto in dms to grace tomorrow i should post screencaps of that to share my vision with the world#me: a-#firefox autofill: ace attorney wiki? you want to go to the ace attorney wiki and look at the turnabout trump transcript part 4 again?#me: š„ŗš yeah#turnabout succession* i mean
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How was it like working for Kristoph? Before he was outed as a murderer
āIt wasā¦ well, itās hard to describe. He was a good boss: he paid me well, always showed up for work, and made sure everything went smoothly. More than that, he was a great mentor. Sometimes I wonder where and when he learned to teach people so well.ā
āHe was alsoā¦ weird, sort of. Again, difficult to explain. Very picky about work and, in hindsight, he never spoke about himself.ā
āI know heās a murderer and, consequently, a terrible person. But, Iām.. not sure, even now, how to feel about all of it. (āItā beingā¦ Well..)ā
#apollo answers#pre turnabout corner#post turnabout trump#(hes SO CONFLICTED ššš MY BABY BOY)#apollo justice#ace attorney#ace attorney apollo justice#ace attorney rp blog#rp blog#aa apollo justice#ace attorney ask blog#ask blog#asks open#aa4#aj:aa#kristoph mention#kristoph gavin#apollo justice ace attorney#roleplay requests open#roleplay blog
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Trucy has two dads and this is them.
Happy pride.
#apollo justice: ace attorney#Phoenix wright#shadi enigmar#my brother made this for me#and it has undone me#ABSOLUTELY UNDONE ME#I FULLY LOST IT#I STILL AM LOSING IT WHEN I REWATCH IT AND IT ADDS THE SPARKLES#WHY IS MY BROTHER LIKE THIS#queue takumi defense squad#okay this was originally queued for early September#but Iām posting it now instead because 1. the pride joke#and 2. Iām replaying turnabout trump for my own reasons rn#and I got this picture and just#so many design questions
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mis amigos estan muertos sin querer los matƩ
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#kristoph gavin#aa4#tw blood#turnabout trump#i've been listening to post-mortem a lot lately and this guy kept popping up in my mind#i'm back from my hiatusss (yes i already said that a month ago) (no i didn't come back back then) (will i come back now?)#my art
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I love inventing terrible in universe fandom drama.
Gavintwt fell into a couple months of terrible discourse about Klavierās sexuality. people argue about whether he's gay or just queerbaiting and then people argue about how this is invasive actually and real people can't queerbait and Klavier is just openly queer the whole time with a song literally titled "my boyfriend is the prosecution's witness". blissfully unaware.
There's a trend of Gavinner stans committing crimes or messing with crime scenes just to be prosecuted/called as a witness by Klavier. he has to put out a formal statement imploring his fans to pursue other methods of getting his attention:
just. please. stop. please.
A few years after the disbarment someone digs up an old viral post that's like
š tilthat February 15, 2018 TIL that during a case in 2016, a defense attorney cross-examined a parrot during the final day of court. The defense won the case. š¢ tortise-law February 15, 2018 Sit your ass the hell down this motherfucker's name is fucking Phoenix Wright and you don't understand how fucking batshit that case is. He was defending prosecutor Miles Edgeworth, who he had previously DESTROYED THE PERFECT RECORD OF. And it STARTS with Wright proving a witness didn't actually see the murder because they were searching for the goddamned Loch Ness Monster. And not only that, the case ends with him ACCUSING THE OTHER PROSECUTOR, MANFRED VON KARMA, OF ORCHESTRATING THE WHOLE MURDER AND KILLING EDGEWORTH'S FATHER. AND HE WAS RIGHT???? LIKE???? š© gay-ramarye February 16, 2018 holy shit reading this guy's wiki page is a fucking trip. not only does he have a perfect win record, that defendant immediately followed this up with FAKING HIS OWN DEATH??? spacejamminninja-deactivated2018 February 16, 2018 How is this not a tv show already. What the hell do you mean he faked his death šŖ¶ is-the-hawk-video-cute February 17, 2018 tbh if my defense attorney cross examined a parrot and accused the opposing counsel i'd fake my death too šø pinkprincess February 18, 2018 japanifornia cases are just Like That i have never heard of a normal one.
and gavinblr suddenly realizes that that was the dude Klavier got DISBARRED a couple years ago. viral sensation parrot cross-examiner Phoenix Wright. the fandom goes crazy for a few days but then Klavier does a new photoshoot and they all move on.
A post joking about shipping Klavierās brother with the guy Klavier got disbarred becomes a huge meme in gavinblr and a subsection begins writing ironic Krisnix RPF that progressively becomes genuine and then turnabout trump happens and the fandom explodes again. Half the Krisnix shippers jump ship to Klapollo because they felt weird about shipping a murderer (and did you SEE the Kitaki case? Klavier was sooo flirting with the defense <3). The other half doubled down and reveled in the angst potential. Part of the Klapollo shippers started truthing. They study court transcripts to prove that Klavier and Apollo are in love if not already dating. Unfortunately theyāre right.
#Ace Attorney#AA#aa4#aaaj#klavier gavin#kristoph gavin#phoenix wright#apollo justice#look away spout#og post#klapollo#aasocmed#shipping#yaoi
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post-turnabout trump tabloid
#ace attorney#klavier gavin#daryan crescend#klavier gavin ace attorney#daryan crescend ace attorney#klavdar#just a tiny bit#because theyāre doomed and i love them#also yeah i redesigned daryan a lot he doesnāt really look like he does in game anymore. but to be fair if you check the time stamp it#makes sense he would have taken his hair down by now. itās night time
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