#post sburb

[soggedupfrog]

Really messy set of post sburb designs, they kind of ugly but i need to get them out here im crazy

[sweet-cuddlebug]

Rage aspect and meta. Pre and post retcon. Homestuck au inspired by csau. Past Gamzee/Terezi. Gamzee makara recovery/dealing with the consequences of his actions. Post-sburb gamtav.

[The texts in this post are mostly my own messages copied and pasted from HS Discord. It's recommended that to better understand this rant you read my other posts about Gamzee and these concepts, not necessarily mandatory.]

Ok so listen yall im thinkin about the rage aspect and post-sburb au

My understanding of Rage and Hope is that one is more connected to reality, and the other to fantasy. In Rage's case, it's everything that's true and exists as it is, while Hope is all the infinite possibilities of what can be. So I figured maybe a rage player could gain some sort of insight/understanding into the reality of the story and their place in it.

That's why Gamzee can do what he does, he's passively destroying reality/the story.

SO

Rememeber how Terezi recovered the memories of her past self (before retcon) due to her mind+seer powers and emotional turmoil

I'm writing an au where that also happens with Gamzee in the retcon, maybe after they defeat LE and destroy Cal (<- VERY important for that to happen), due to the sudden freedom granted to his mind Gamzee suffers some kind of emotional and mental shock, similar to what happened with his chucklevoodo (unconsciously giving John nightmares etc etc)

And I'm not even sure if this happens to Gamzee in canon, but here he gains some understanding of the meta and manages to regain his memories from before the retcon

And then comes the emotional spill and meltdown blah blah blah his reality is shattered and he's miserable etc etc

THEN

This contains OCs and I'm not gonna go into too much detail but they're the ones who are mainly in charge of getting Gamzee through the door

TIME SKIP

FOUR YEARS LATER

Gamzee received professional help and support in addition to getting used to this new life outside of anyone's or anything's control, but he also has to deal with the consequences of his actions

WHICH LEADS US TO Gamzee meeting and having a conversation with Terezi (also Nepeta, Karkat, Equius and Tavros etc BUT MAINLY TEREZI FOR NOW) and both of them talking about their relationship and what happened before the retcon, since it's only them + john + time players + sprites who know

I forgot to talk about this on discord but it is in this conversation that both manage to reconcile and receive the answers/apologies they deserved IMPORTANT THAT THIS HAPPENS 4 YEARS LATER OR MORE AFTER THE GAME both need time to heal and improve at their own pace

We continue with the discord messages

OOOOOOH I THOUGHT OF SOMETHING

similar to the scene with Lapis Lazuli, Gamzee is with a group going about their normal day and things take an unexpected turn and now Gamzee is having a breakdown, he's questioning if what he's doing is okay, questioning if he can really be a better person, and ADMITTING that sometimes he "misses" what he went through in the game, AND IT'S CRAZY BECAUSE NOTHING GOOD HAPPENED TO HIM, and he's like (I don't know how to replicate gamzee's speech, I apologize) "i know it sounds bad but sometimes i think i miss the purpose LE gave me" and someone (I didn't put any specific character but I imagined this scene happening with Tavros, I'll explain more later) retorts with "but he was evil and he made you suffer!" and gamzee retorts with "IM EVIL, I MADE MY FRIENDS SUFFER, I TORMENTED KARKAT AND TEREZI AND I KILLED EQUIUS AND NEPETA AND A LOT OF OTHER BAD THINGS" and maybe he mentions something he did before the retcon and everyone's like "what when did that happen" and gamzee gets worse because he remembers that only a few people know the damage he really caused

Okay, as I said, I was going to talk more about Tavros. In my AU, I plan to make flushed Gamtav canon, but like with Terezi, for that to happen, I need a time period where the characters involved can heal separately, so the development of their relationship would not begin until almost 4 years after the game. And just like in csau Tavros gains the confidence (and wings) that he previously lacked/wanted, and the dynamic between Gamzee and Tavros changes.

Tavros becomes more confident and assertive about the type of relationship he wants to form with Gamzee (<3), while Gamzee is now the one who doesn't know if he wants to pursue that (because he doesn't trust himself and that he's not going to ruin everything again). They first begin by forming a friendship; both are different people and must learn to love this new version of themselves. But as time passes, it's clear that Gamzee isn't talking about some things that bother him and prevent him from expanding his friendships/relationships (idk maybe they should mention the makeout with his decapitated head, maybe who knows). This would lead to the scene described above.

Original messages:

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[yaoisquidbob]

[meatsparrow]

HELLO EQUIUS FANS! all... (squints into the crowd) .....three of you!

[cure-typhoon]

I do not understand how Popular Dave even came into existence in the first place he has 3 online friends pre-sburb and he never shuts the fuck up and is not like people are listening to him when he is ramblings like make it make sense

[autisticaradiamegido]

day 81

for the real tumblr oldheads. yall remember those "the signs as" posts? and the running gag of making ones that were just increasingly obscure homestuck references? this was one of my faves. put it in my art tag back in 2018 thinking id draw the trolls in all their respective sburb planet fits. WELL I GOT TO IT EVENTUALLY BABEY!!!!

full lineup here!!

[esmeblaise]

It really gets good post season 2 when it becomes anti )(IC symbolism

[cringefail-clown]

wip for your soul

[soggedupfrog]

AaaughughAAAUGGHHUGGHGpride

Also this stupid thing

[sweet-cuddlebug]

Gamzee's dialect || Gamzee tells a story || Gamzee and the Carapaces

+ gamtav fic link

Reading Gamzee's dialogues both in the comic and in fanafics gives me a terrible headache but damn they're usually the funniest

very bad example -> [Gamzee does his best to wiggle himself into a seductive pose, ass up and lips pouted. "Motherfucker, it'd be the most famousest of paintings ever to be done did. Errybody coming round to see 'The Temptation of Zee,' bein all like, damn, dat ass tho."]

I hate his dialect :o]

《Gamzee starts telling a story》

“Yo, bro, check out that cloud over yonder! Looks like a fluffy little hopping beast!” Tavros pushed the trash to the farthest corner of the blanket, laying back with Gamzee to listen to him point out cloud formations.

“Yeah, I see the rabbit. You are my guide, to the clouds, on this auspicious occasion. What about that one, over there?”

He points to a towering bank of Cumulus clouds and Zee is quick to respond, “Well, my fine brother, iffen my seeing bulbs are screwed on right, I'd be saying that's a dragon all spewing out some wroth on his brother, the sky.”

“And for what reason, would the dragon have, to be so mighty and wrathful?”

Gamzee hums for a moment, thinking. “I'd be saying...Well. See. The dragon's all one happy motherfuck, flying round, doing what he do. You know, pillaging villages, eatin folk, breathin fire. But one day, he all wakes up, and gets to realizing he ain't living no full life. Like, he got the know-how something's missing, and he ain't too sure what all it is.”

“Yeah? What did he do?”

Gamzee's hands gesture with abandon as he talks, getting more animated as he goes, “He tried talking to the village folk, but they all was scared of him, chased him off with sticks and shit. Made him feel worse, realizin he spent a life fulla regrets. So, he flies away to talk to his brother, Sky, telling all at him the emptiness inside, and asking what all he should do to fix it.”

Gamzee's voice attempts a deep boom for sky's voice and Tavros sniggers, “Sky laughs in his big scaly face, 'My brother, coursen you all is full a nothin, ain't done naught but harm to motherfuckers since you been born.' The dragon looked Sky square in the face and was all like...'Whaaat?' Sky laughed again. 'You heard me, you lizard-faced dumbfuck. You gots to be doing aught else for others so's you can get to feeling good.' So, the dragon went and flew away real far, farther than most motherfuckers ever dreamed a goin. Found himself a nice hot volcano to land in out in the middle of buttfuck nowhere in the ocean. Got cuddled up nice heaty-warm in the lava to get to thinking what his brother done imparted to him.” Gamzee pauses, stealing the bottle of cider from Tavros' hand to take a sip.

The pause drags on longer than he'd like. This is getting interesting, if Tav is to be honest. “Well? What happened?”

“Dragon got his think on real hard, for a long motherfucking time. Like, empires rose and fell whilst he was getting them gears in his head what whirring and clanking. Sky looked and looked for his brother, yearsome, and couldn't find him. Cried and stormed up a mighty fury, but his bro wouldn't return. Made Sky angry as motherfuck, vengeful, even. Finally, Dragon pulled his scaly ass out the volcano with an idea. See, dragons is all sortsa miracles and magic, so he figures, he can ☆make☆ a motherfucker what to help out and live a life for, sincing villagers don't like him none, and Sky didn't seem all too interested in helpin.”

“So, he pulls lava out from the very bottom of the volcano, the hottest blue-white you ever done seen, and formed and hammered it till a carapace was made. He hurried up quick, taking the body to his sister, Ocean, and asked her to help him let a body out. Sister ocean lapped up with a big wave, cracking that shit like an egg. From the rock came the most beautiful woman in the world. Like, her hair was dark as the bottom of the ocean, skin tan n smooth as mocha coffee, curvier than a road what wraps round mountains. The dragon stared and stared, but avoided her eyes, coz he knew, he'd be done as fuck the moment he looked at them.”

He offered a piece of cheese to Zee, but he refused, lost to the narrative. “The lady wobbled out on the beach, held up by Ocean till Dragon woke out of his stupid to grab her up and take her deep into the jungle, worry writ all over his brow. Coz he knew, the moment Sky saw her, he'd try to steal her away for his own. Ocean promised to keep the lava-woman down secretive, but Dragon still got a worry all up on his insides anyhows.”

“For years, he kept her hid in the jungle, teachin her how to hunt, to read, all a the stuff what makes a body full and happy. She named herself Ao, after the pretty clouds she done saw through the breaks in the tree branches above. Scared him some to know that, but she was happy, so he didn't argue.”

“Dragon built her a castle out of beach-glass and lava, slept at the foot of her bed. Ao seemed awful joyus most tides, but one day she up and asked, (he imitates a high falsetto that makes Tavros spit out the cheese he was chewing on) 'Dragon? Why don't you ever look me in the eye none?' The dragon didn't know what to say, coz he knew she'd be able to tell if he was lyin. He tried, for the longest of motherfucking times, not to fall in love with the woman. But, it's all down to the point that he was real close to it. If he saw them pretty eyes, he'd be lost forever. See. A dragon can change forms, become human, long as that human loves them back. Iffen the human doesn't, then they change back, meanest motherfucker what to fly in the skies. He'd tear apart the universe with his claws till Sky gots to put the lightning in him to put him down.”

“He tried to explain, but the woman wouldn't hear it. He didn't want to give his brother the hurt a knowing that he had to kill his bestest of brothers to save the world. She stamped her little foot in all sorts of impatience. 'Dragon. I know of many things, you've done shown me in all these write-books. If loving is what all we are to be having, then you best look me in the eye, son.” Tavros snerted when he heard the lava princess talk street.

“For days, the woman begged till he couldn't take it no more. 'Ao, I'ma look. Do you promise to love me forever?' Dragon knew that weren't a fair ask to be having, but he was ascared. Mebbe if she said no, he could refuse, and just be happy to protect her from the things in the wild, sharing her company forever. The thought made him happy, but Ao's words made that blaze ten times brighter. 'Yes. I will.'

“Dragon steeled hisself up, before bending down and getting the look gaze on her eyes. They were as gorgeous as he had imagined, blue-white like the lava he made her from, deep as the oceans that bore her to him. Love done hit him with the weight of a star, bearing him down little till he was her size, scales traded for smooth red skin, wings for bright white hair. 'Ao...I...'

“The woman smiled deep and bitter at him, pushing him down and running away into the forest, out to the beach. Dragon was too stunned to move. What all he wasn't to be realizing is that Ao had fallen in love with Sky, and she would steal away at the nighttide to see him in his star-cloaked glory. She felt angry that he kept her hid in the deepest of deep jungles, away from her love, even iffen he was trying to be kind. Sky had grown embittered with his brother for leaving all them years ago, and plotted to take her as revenge. Ao called to Sky when she made it out of the jungle, and he swooped her up in a cloak of Stratus clouds, out of the grasp of his brother.”

“Dragon fell on the beach, screaming dissonance to the heavens fore being ripped anew as he changed back to his original form, full a mindless fury and rage. Ocean tried to calm him, hissing along the sands, 'Brother, you can make another, let Ao go!' Dragon wouldn't hear of it, chasing after her form in the clouds with a burst of blue flame. He screamed, he clawed, but he never found Ao again. Eventually, He was nothing but an empty ass shell of destruction, tearing part any and all what got close to him. Sky felt guilt all up in his body as he watched his bro tear hisself apart, knowing what had to be done. When Dragon came face-first to Sky, howling for retribution, and Sky struck him down with a blinding bolt. Dragon fell forever, shock and grief wrote big on his face. Sky cried for days, made it so's Ao could never reach him again, in chastisement of his fool-ass ways. When Dragon finally hit the ground, Sky made a rainbow-bridge for his spirit to climb into the stars, where he clumb up and stayed forever, to watch over his brother.”

Gamzee's story ended just as the sun began to set, the sounds of their combined heartbeats in tandem with the breeze that stirred the leaves. “I think, that was the saddest story, you ever told me, Zee. It was beautiful.” Gamzee mmm'ed agreement and turned his eyes back to the skies in silence.

《Gamzee finished telling a story》

All this text comes from this GamTav fic [NOT MY FIC]. Edited by me to be more focused on Gamzee's story.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/660729

I feel like that is the kind of interactions he'd have with the carapaces on Earth C really. He's not a religious figure, he's just that guy you might find in the park from time to time who tells amazing stories.

Sometimes Gamzee gets distracted while talking and ends up spitting out the most entertaining tales by accident.

Nepeta and Tavros eventually find out and team up to act out the characters. It's all good, all fun.

[kvreski]

wyd when the tv starts to glow

[conceptofjoy]

hypothetical menace of a 13 yr old

[chaoticsorceressztc]

Thinking up new ways to "cheat" in Sburb/Scrub

Take your normal and Dream self to the sacrificial slab in your respective dream moon (Prospit/Derse) and have BOTH go God Tier

Void session, take all the Sprite Kernels and prototype yourself with literally all of them (Sprite^4 or something)

Be a Void player and just bug abuse your classpect until you can do all other classpects, it's gotta be possible with the way Void powers are stated to work

Time and Space player combo, go back in time but shift space forward so you don't get caught in yourselves. Repeat. Now you have the fastest transportation in existence, congratulations.

Already stated: Go God tier, wander The Void until you hit a doomed timeline, Prototype with that timeline's dream self of you into a Sprite, have that timeline version of you die on the Quest Bed, God tier again, repeat until all are one. (Or you're out of timelines where you can prototype with their dream self)

If you have any other ways of "Cheating Sburb/Scrub", go ahead and share! :D

[nana2009]

so, you made that art abt yandere Dave (the latest one) what’s the backstory behind it???

you sea, sweetie, when daddy loves mommy very much but they arent together, drastic measurements have to be taken......fortunately, dave has been trained his whole life, and knos exactly what to do! :D

[cobwebears]

happy gay month sickos

[lynnbecks-gaming-sideblog]

Nifty Craftmine trick that I figured out earlier; when you get Raw Copper do not smelt more than you need to. Instead, craft it into Raw Iron Blocks, which are worth a lot of experience if you keep them in your inventory when you exit. And if you want to get those juicy juicy speed and jump upgrades to make it way easier to instantly die of fall-damage make navigation easier, that's a good way!

Technically you can also do this with Ingots and normal Copper and Iron blocks, but also Raw Copper, the item, is also worth more than the ingots for some reason, but only like. .0001 more or something.