#possibly intersex?

[goodbeanboi]

I don't really know if I'm considered intersex. But I kinda really relate to some intersex experiences. But I don't really know how to talk about what I have experienced without feeling like I'm taking up space for people who are genuinely intersex.

I have PCOS and recently discovered I had a precocious puberty that wasn't dealt with at all as a child. I kinda have a lot of unpacked issues with that and all. Essentially, having symptoms of a male puberty way..way way too young (age 6) that were like ignored because my mom was looking for signs of "female" puberty. Basically, my puberty wasn't acknowledged until I was 10. I was frankly really upset when I realized this. But I don't blame my mom because I don't think the doctor who diagnosed me with PCOS at 6 even told her I was essentially experiencing a puberty which was contributing to some of my emotional outbursts.

I know there's some debate on wether or not PCOS is considered an intersex condition. I'm just feeling rather lost. I'm sorry if I use some wrong terminology or if I rub anyone the wrong way with this. I really just wanna know if I belong with the intersex community or I should just do my best as an ally.

(He/Him pronouns please)

[jormungandr0005]

If there's anyone intersex who know alot about being intersex please comment under this post if I can message you 🙏 Just want to ask some questions, ty! I'll explain more in detail once that happens :)

[sualne]

your body isn't your own

[hazel2468]

Love how I say that PCOS can and imo should count as intersex and I get 100% perisex people telling me that I “Don’t understand the intersex experience” and that I’m “stealing the spotlight” and “want to be oppressed”

Like I didn’t grow a beard and have my fucking voice drop when I hit puberty and dealt with being mocked for being “too manly” and also was treated like shit by doctors about it for years until my current endo tested me for both CAH and PCOS because of all those things that “don’t count as intersex” because some of you backwards fuckwads think that “intersex” means “has a cock and a pussy in a way I find sexy or gross fucked up genitals that I find disturbing and thats it”.

[excessive-moisture]

Thanks for the spider genital video North

you're welcome uwu

[cardentist]

I've written two nuanced essays about this today [Link 1, Link 2] but I want to try to condense this idea down as much as possible.

we understand that transmisogyny is a term that Largely discusses the experiences of trans fems

we understand that exorsexism is a term that Largely discusses the experiences of people outside of the gender/sex binary

we understand that intersexism is a term that Largely discusses the experience of intersex people

these are all terms that are actively in use, there are some cases where people have express bigotry towards these terms (of course there are, they were created to address the bigotry these groups face after all), but they're Generally established within the queer community.

we can Add that while these terms are Generally used to discuss the experiences of particular groups of people, there Will be crossover in those experiences. because we are all genderqueer (meaning we experience our gender in a queer way). because there is crossover between members of our groups (there are intersex people who are multigender and nonbinary and trans fem). And because people often face violence not because of the identity that they Are, but because of how they're Perceived (a cis intersex woman can face transmisogyny by someone who interprets her as a perisex trans woman, and that's an experience that's worth talking about and acknowledging).

now we take all of That, and we add trans mascs to the equation.

Trans Mascs have experiences that aren't entirely unique to them, but Do largely characterize the lived experiences of trans masc people. we can allow trans mascs to have the language to acknowledge and highlight their lived experiences, to find other people like them, to put a spotlight on things that have often faced erasure, Without then compromising other trans people.

and we know they can, because this is what all other genderqueer people have already done. the existence of transmisogyny does not harm exorsexism or intersexism. these terms are all able to function alongside each other.

All queer people are allowed to create terminology for themselves without it being presented as an existential threat to any other type of queer person (as long as you're against other forms of exclusionism, which for the sake of this hypothetical I'm assuming you are).

so it Says Something when people single out trans mascs and deny them the same. something awfully transphobic.

transandrophobia Can exist alongside transmisogyny and exorsexism and intersexism, with the understanding that it is a term that's Largely intended to give trans mascs the vocabulary to advocate for themselves, while Also crossing over with the lived experiences of other genderqueer people. something which Only benefits All genderqueer people by opening up conversations for things that can fly under the radar!

and if you want to change how we use these terms then we have to address All of them, you cannot single out transandrophobia without it being Transphobia. (and gender-essentialism, for that matter).

[intervex]

Diwali-inspired intersex flags

It was Diwali, and I was once again inspired by a holiday to make some relevant intersex flags 🪔

First, some Diwali-specific imagery:

The rangoli pattern on the left is by Desti Silvana Ekasari of the Noun Project and comes with a CC BY 3.0 license. The diya lamp icon on the right comes from the Fluent Emoji pack.

I also made intersex flags for intersex members of the religions associated with the holiday: Jains, Hindus, Vajrayana Buddhists, and Sikhs (FYI: "Sikh" is pronounced like "sick" not "seek" 💜).

Icon sources: Jain Ahimsa, Hindu Aum, Vishvavajira, Sikh Khanda

Personal note: I'm not myself a member of any religion, but I do celebrate Diwali because my partner's family is Hindu. 💜

Tagging for archival: @radiomogai @intersexflags @varsex-pride @beyond-mogai-pride-flags

[dreamyintersexouppy]

afab transfems still aren’t real even if you try to use intersex people as a prop for your transmisogynistic argument btw

[turtleblogatlast]

It’s too bad the Hamatos can’t go almost anywhere in the Hidden City without getting banned from a place or committing a crime or being blamed for a crime and then banned from a place because the Hidden City must contain a treasure trove of basic items that would help their specific mutations. I like to imagine that they sometimes do manage to go a day without too much incident to get some of these items.

Like, special lotions for Yokai scales, brushes made especially for shelled humanoids, clothing made to fit their forms better, etc, etc. Even Splinter could probably find a lot of stuff for like fur and teeth care that’s hard to find above ground.

They’d gotten by more than well on their own, but there’s a certain luxury to be had for specially made stuff infused with all sorts of healing mystic properties as well. Imagine they all had aches and pains they’d just dealt with for years only to realize that oh wait…I don’t have to feel like this all the time?

[goodbeanboi]

I think you should feel welcome to belong

I guess I just feel like calling myself intersex would somehow devalue the term?

Like so many more people have been genuinely discriminated against and abused because of being intersex. While I've just had a weird growing up and didn't have any idea what was happening to me when I was a child.

Because I genuinely believe more people need to understand intersex people and their community. I don't want to somehow fuck it up?

[carfloorfrenchfry]

AT BEST, everyone calling Imane Khelif intersex or suggesting she has XY chromosomes is uninformed and buying into an EXTREMELY racist notion that someone who looks like her cannot possibly be a woman. There is zero credible evidence that Khelif is intersex.

The claims that she has XY chromosomes or even high testosterone were made in similar bad faith to the claims that Khelif is transgender. You spotted the transphobia, now stop taking the racism at face value.

[evilkitten3]

some reminders that i think this site could use:

-it is still not ok to be racist

-it is still not ok to be antisemitic

-it is still not ok to be islamophobic

-it is still not ok to be misogynistic

-it is still not ok to be classist

-it is still not ok to be xenophobic

-it is still not ok to be intersexist

-it is still not ok to be ageist

-it is still not ok to be ableist

-it is still not ok to be fatphobic

-it is still not ok to be -phobic of anything under the lgbtq+ umbrella

-not even if you really dislike someone

-not even if you really dislike their spouse

-bigotry is not bad because it's targeting the wrong people, it's bad no matter who it's targeting

-hating someone for something outside their control is still bad

-sweeping generalizations of large groups of people will inevitably include smaller marginalized groups within that larger group and if you forget about this they will accuse you of bigotry towards them and you will deserve it

-the above does not separate those marginalized peoples fully from the larger group, nor does it make bigotry towards them acceptable

and also

-someone having a different opinion from you does not make them automatically a bot or a psyop. it makes them a person who has a different opinion than you

-fallacies, propaganda techniques, and means of spreading mis/disinformation are not just things to watch out for from those you view as opposition, but also things to keep an eye out for concerning your perceived allies and yourself

-sometimes people just don't know things or know incorrect things. this is not a statement of their moral inferiority. not everyone is actively out to do harm, some people just have questions or are wrong about things

ok? ok

[horizons-queerstake-blog]

ok the new transgender policy in the handbook is messed up for a lot of reasons but I hate how they probably didn't even bother to think about how hostile it is toward intersex people.

[wellknownquest]

Going to be ending a friendship because she insists that trans people asking for too much and pushing their agenda too hard is what drove people to dumpy pants. She has also made remarks about not supporting gender affirmation because cis women can’t get the same surgeries covered by insurance (as if it’s some cake walk for trans people) and that she supports trans athlete bans.

[mister13eyond]

I think people in general would be less weird about gender and trans people if it were just made more clear how incredibly artificial the idea of a human sexual dichotomy really is

External genitalia is the same basic structures configured in slightly different ways, and it's less of a binary set of options than a spectrum between two poles as intersex people fully prove

Secondary sex characteristics are entirely dependent on hormones, which means they a.) already have a wide variety of natal presentations across genders (ex cis women capable of growing facial hair, cis men with breast tissue etc are all completely normal (if slightly uncommon) outcomes) and b.) Are extremely easy to change with HRT

Hormones can affect PHYSICAL reactions to emotions (higher testosterone making anger an easier physical reaction to stress than tears, and higher estrogen vice versa) but it doesn't actually affect the ways you think about or react to things, just what your body does with that emotion.

Social and behavioral differences are EXTREMELY affected by nurture more so than nature and there are no inherent neurological differences between men and women's brains.

Our bodies are so similar to one another that transition- while socially and financially potentially difficult- is MEDICALLY incredibly fucking easy. The fact that we can just alter our secondary sex characteristics with medications and our external genitalia with fairly simple surgeries should be a clue how incredibly close all human bodies are? We Have the possibility to change so easily because there are not inherent, hardwired unmovable differences. The only real difference at this point is the capability to carry and birth children, and with the way science is going that doesn't seem like an impossible breakthrough at this point.

Idk, I'm so tired of seeing discourse from other trans people that upholds that there are fundamental differences between men and women. Until we all start agreeing that these categories are artificially enforced and that they aren't really biologically inherent whatsoever we're never going to get anywhere

[shabbyshoebox]

It's so fitting that the code is "Optometrist". Amazing that the doctor who wanted to blind is the reason we can 'see' (decode).

I compiled all of the optometrist mentions that I could find because WOW.

From "Skin: the bag that holds your meat!":

"So-called 'optometrists' say that these colors don't exist". (Another instance of Bill seeing what the optometrist can't)

"My optometrist never saw it coming ".

From the Quiz:

"VII. What is this thing? Why won't it leave me alone?!" (Alongside "Need a password? Fine I'll talk. It's the name of the eyeball doc.")

And of course, "Silly Straws":

"Fussy eater/ Baby Billy/ wouldn't drink unless it's silly

The doctor says/ three sips a day will make the visions go away

Eye doctor of a different kind/ who wants to make his patient blind."

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Just imagine, you want to show your parents the stars. They don't understand.

Your parents want to help. They want to help you. "Just fit in."

You drink medicine everyday to blind yourself. Your only comfort is the silly straw you drink your poison with.

The doctor is giving you poison to destroy your perception of things he claims don't exist. Why couldn't you just exist as you are? Why must you destroy pieces of yourself instead of them learning about the universe? Why can't they just leave you be?

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I don't think his optometrist was the first to go in the Second Dimension Incident, given that it was the mass destruction of the entirety of Euclydia, and many deaths were likely simultaneous due to the nature of the incident.

However, I do think it's the death Bill regrets least.