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brw · 10 months ago
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it's so hard being a sue storm head because yes when people talk about sue cheating on reed with namor it's always misogynistic it's always ableist it's always mean-spirited to every character involved it poorly portrays sue, reed and namor and puts them in unflattering lights just for a misogynistic push on their characters. and you do all this and you say all this and it's like damn. i can't advocate for sue storm/alicia masters adultery on main now after doing all that.
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astervaleblack · 12 days ago
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DP X Marvel #2
The Phantom Affair started as a tweet.
One blurry photo. Midtown High’s parking lot. Danny Fenton and Peter Parker sitting shoulder to shoulder on the curb, sharing a burrito, looking like two tired teenage boys who had absolutely trauma bonded over AP Physics and probably something illegal involving lasers. Danny had one arm lazily slung over Peter’s shoulder. Peter, red-faced, was clearly mid-whine.
The caption?
“FENTON-PARKER IS REAL. MY GAY NERD SONS. I WILL FIGHT FOR THEM.”
And from there, it spiraled.
Danny was already public knowledge. After “Phantom Planet,” the entire world knew the pale kid from Amity Park was Phantom—half-ghost superhero, savior of Earth, general menace with bad hair. What they didn’t know was that Peter Parker, sweet, awkward Midtown science student with tragic eyebags and a mild vitamin D deficiency, was also Spider-Man.
But what the public did know was this:
1. Phantom and Spider-Man were attached at the hip. Fighting together. Flying together. Flirting mid-battle.
2. Peter Parker and Danny Fenton were inseparable. Studying together. Walking to school together. Literally sharing a dorm, thanks to Tony Stark.
3. Danny Fenton and Phantom were the same person.
4. Peter Parker and Spider-Man were not the same person.
Cue the chaos.
It didn’t help that Danny and Spider-Man were caught mid-air in a very compromising position—Danny flying backwards with his arms full of Spidey, who was clearly laughing like a Disney princess while twirling his web around Danny’s waist like a lasso. It was broadcasted live during a ghost attack in Queens. The internet lit up like the Fourth of July.
“DANNY FENTON-PHANTOM CAUGHT CHEATING ON BOYFRIEND PETER PARKER WITH SPIDER-MAN?”
“LOVE TRIANGLE OF THE CENTURY: GHOST, SPIDER, AND THE BOY NEXT DOOR”
“WHO DOES DANNY FENTON LOVE MORE?” with a dramatic black-and-white photo collage set to Lana Del Rey.
Thus began: The Phantom Affair.
The world divided into two camps.
Team Parker: loyal, nerdy, wears mismatched socks. Probably bakes. The “true love” since high school.
Team Spider: hot, athletic, mysterious. Definitely leaves hickeys and emotional damage.
The hashtags trended hourly.
#GhostSpider vs #FentonParker
#HeBelongsWithSpidey vs #PeterHasHisHeart
#LetThemAllDateEachOtherHonestly
Talk shows invited “relationship experts” to weigh in on the psychology of dating a ghost and/or a superhero. Morning news anchors were screaming about betrayal and interspecies romance. One tabloid cover showed a badly photoshopped image of Phantom crying while Peter and Spider-Man had a slap fight in the background.
BuzzFeed did a quiz:
“Are You Team Parker or Team Spider?”
Danny took it. He got “Needs Therapy.”
He called Jazz.
At Midtown, things were worse.
Posters started showing up in the halls.
• “FENTON, PICK A SIDE.”
• “SPIDER IS JUST A PHASE.”
• “PARKER DESERVES BETTER.”
• A single one that just said: “POLYAMORY IS VALID.”
Peter accidentally walked into a student-organized debate club arguing which one of them had better chemistry with Danny. One girl tried to defend Spider-Man by referencing the velocity of Danny’s blush during live battles.
“HE GLOWED, MRS. WARREN. GLOWED.”
Peter screamed into his locker and left.
Meanwhile, Tony was having the time of his life.
“I’ve never seen anything so ridiculous!” He laughed, kicking back in the Tower and flipping through Twitter threads titled things like Body Language Analysis of Phantom When Standing Next to Peter vs. Spider-Man. “This is better than Twilight. This is fanfiction-level drama.”
Happy groaned. “Shouldn’t we, like, fix this?”
“No.” Tony said, taking a bite of his sandwich. “We let it grow.”
Back at school, Danny wasn’t helping.
“Wait, wait…” He said during lunch, twirling spaghetti and pretending not to notice the entire cafeteria watching him. “So they think I’m dating Peter and Spider-Man?”
Peter looked like he wanted to die. “Yes, Danny. That’s the problem.”
Danny grinned. “They think I’m a ghost with two boyfriends.”
“You are a ghost with two boyfriends. The boyfriends are just the same person.”
“It’s a metaphor.”
“It’s a mental breakdown.”
Someone across the room yelled, “TELL PETER THE TRUTH, YOU COWARD!” and threw a napkin. Peter caught it mid-air like a ninja. He deserved a Grammy for Best Performance in a Romantic Crisis.
Things hit a boiling point during the Midtown Spring Fling.
Danny showed up in a black suit with green trim. Peter, flustered and adorable, wore a bowtie. The minute they walked in, the room exploded in flash photography. Someone was live-streaming.
“PARKER’S HERE. WITH FENTON. WHERE’S SPIDER-MAN?”
Two hours into the night, the lights flickered. Green. Eerie.
Ghosts. Obviously.
Danny went full Phantom in five seconds flat, eyes glowing, hair flaring, looking like the cover of a paranormal romance novel. He turned to Peter, who sighed, yanked his phone out, and whispered, “Happy’s gonna kill me,” before vanishing into the crowd.
And then ten minutes later—
Spider-Man.
Swung in through the ceiling. Landing in a crouch. Doing a dramatic flip off the refreshment table.
People lost their minds.
“HE’S HERE! SPIDEY’S HERE!”
“THEY’RE GONNA FIGHT!”
“OR KISS!”
What followed was twenty solid minutes of Danny and Spider-Man fighting ghosts back-to-back while whispering furiously to each other like a married couple mid-argument.
“Why did you swing in like that?!”
“You LEFT me to deal with the punch bowl poltergeist!”
“You were doing fine!”
“I was sticky!”
“Well I’m always sticky!”
When the fight ended, they stood in the middle of the gym. Dusty. Glowing. Glorious.
Someone yelled, “KISS HIM, SPIDEY!”
Danny blushed a bright green.
Spider-Man waved awkwardly and ran.
The next morning, the internet exploded.
“Phantom Fights For Love: Team Spider Dominates With Surprise Appearance.”
“Peter Parker Was There Too. Sad.”
The memes were relentless. Edits. Fanart. POVs. Dramatic TikTok transitions.
One viral post:
“Fenton with Parker in the library vs Phantom with Spider-Man mid-battle. Choose your fighter.”
Danny texted Peter at 2am:
Danny: I love you. You. Just you. All of you. The nerd. The spider. The panic. The allergies.
Peter:
Danny:
Peter: … even the spider thighs?
Danny: Especially the spider thighs.
Peter: okay. okay I forgive you.
Danny: for what?
Peter: I don’t know but everyone keeps saying you cheated on me with me and I’m upset about it.
Eventually, they cracked. At a press event where both Phantom and Spider-Man were invited—by Tony, obviously—Peter accidentally yanked his mask off in a moment of frustration while yelling, “I AM ALSO PETER PARKER AND I AM DATING DANNY FENTON-PHANTOM. THERE IS NO LOVE TRIANGLE. WE ARE JUST TWO DUMB BOYFRIENDS WITH IDENTITY ISSUES.”
Danny, in the background, raised his hand. “Can we still sell the merch though?”
The world imploded. Again.
People were angry. People were delighted. Tumblr rejoiced. Twitter died. A new hashtag was born.
#PhantomArachnid
BuzzFeed did a follow-up quiz:
“Which Version of Peter Parker Are You?”
Tony sold limited edition plushies. They sold out in three minutes.
But in the middle of it all, in between the media frenzy and the fandom wars and the paparazzi hiding in the trees, Peter and Danny sat on a rooftop eating pizza.
Just them. No secrets. No masks.
Peter leaned into Danny’s shoulder and sighed. “We really should’ve told people earlier.”
Danny shrugged, mouth full. “I don’t know. I kind of liked being in a love triangle with you and you.”
Peter rolled his eyes. “You’re impossible.”
Danny kissed his cheek. “Yeah. But I’m your impossible.”
And somewhere, miles away, Tony high-fived himself.
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markantonys · 18 days ago
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3x05 thoughts! (book spoilers)
i loved all the character & relationship moments in this episode! it was nice to take a breather and just spend time with the characters and get to see how much they mean to each other. wotshow continuing its trend of doing a great job balancing character work vs. action across the 8 episodes!
against all odds, randgwene clung on by a thread for yet another week lmao but the breakup is 100% coming next week, and surely it has to be just about the first thing to happen in the episode given the cliffhanger. i'm reaaaaally curious (and anxious) about how they'll frame it, because right from day 1 after the first trailer etc i said "i really hope they make it clear that randgwene's breakup is mutual because they just aren't right for each other, and don't frame it as the only reason they broke up is because rand is ~cheating~ with lanfear and egwene feels betrayed". it was my biggest point of worry with the whole rand-egwene-lanfear situation, and it seems like it might be coming true! but we haven't actually gotten to hear rand talk about the whole lanfear situation and his feelings on it, so hashing it out with egwene might give him a good opportunity to do that and maybe whatever he says will make it clear to the audience and egwene that he's been manipulated and it will help ease things a bit. i just really hope rand and egwene will be able to end everything on decent footing with each other; i know there has to be big tension between them at the end of the series, but imo that would be cheaper and more emotionally shallow if it's leftover tension from a bad breakup rather than the more platonic tension between two conflicting world leaders who used to have a close personal relationship and grew up together but now must both put their greater duties first. not to mention that we HAVE to get egwene's signoff on avirandlayne if we want the audience to accept that relationship, so she has to end the season in a decent place with rand!
as of now, we're obviously on the verge of high drama, but i have faith that maybe rand & egwene's conversation will end up going in a good direction that allows them to go "look, lanfear might be the catalyst for forcing us to talk about it, but we've both known for a long time that we just aren't right for each other and THAT is the real reason we need to end things" (plus, surely egwene will tell rand that lanfear's been behind her dream torture and rand will be horrified and take her side and turn firmly against lanfear, right? right??). it's also interesting to consider how much control rand had over his dream; in the past rand-lanfear dream convos, he's always seemed "conscious" (though asleep of course) and fully in control and aware of what he's doing, but in this sequence, egwene is entering the other friends' dreams and it's clear that it's just their subconscious minds coming up with scenarios and they aren't doing anything on purpose. is rand fully in control of himself in this dream? or is it a somewhat subconscious dream on his part with lanfear consciously influencing the direction? it IS interesting that the new location could, maybe, imply that this is rand's own natural dream, at least to start, vs. past randfear scenes that seemed like lanfear pulling rand somewhere to talk to him. but we really can't judge anything for sure until we've heard what rand has to say about it next week.
sticking to the waste plot, the avirand scene!! 10/10 no notes! rand learns about polyamory, avi tries to feel out whether wetlanders are down for it, and they bicker <3 and rand playing with the little girl, my HEART let him be a stay-at-home dad!!!!
as i suspected, rhuarc-bair-lian is yet another balanced triad where everybody is equally married to each other with no mention of any sibling-spouses. alanna-maksim-ihvon was the same, so it does really feel like they're setting up for the Main Character Polyship to be a balanced triad where everybody is equally romantically involved and there are no metamours, aka avirandlayne only and min not involved at all. further to this point, there was no particular min-elayne interaction in this episode beyond sharing a group conversation and they didn't react in a noteworthy way to each other, but i'll keep an eye on further developments there in the remaining episodes! if no focus is given to the min-elayne individual dynamic in tanchico, i'd say that's the final nail in the coffin for min being involved in the polycule because at that point they would have blown past MULTIPLE opportunities to tie her together with elayne or rand.
continuing on with polycule thoughts, i was glad to see an acknowledgment of avilayne in elayne's dream! one of my problems with the way it was done so far is that it was so extremely casual as to have no impact on either character outside of 3x01 itself, but i'd suspected that might change later in the season with some kind of Reminder That This Happened, and sure enough, we did get that here. this kind of small but notable acknowledgement is striking just the right balance for me: it's making sure to keep avilayne in the audience's thoughts and signaling to them that there's more to come here, but without emphasizing it as a monogamous romance so much that people will be blindsided or upset when rand joins in the future. we can see that elayne is still thinking about avi, but she's not pining and yearning for her every waking moment of the day (if she was doing that and then if avi started falling for rand more clearly before elayne rejoins them, the audience would feel indignant on elayne's behalf, so it's good that they're not going TOO hard on elayne's feelings for avi just yet; especially with avi's line this episode derisively saying "that's too much to ask of one person" implying that she doesn't have monogamous expectations with elayne, it's good that elayne doesn't strongly have those expectations either, so they're both more or less on the same page as of now).
my wishful thinking was that it would've been nice to have rand crop up in elayne's dream too sort of the way faile did in perrin's, nothing overtly romantic but a sign that he's lingering in her thoughts just like aviendha is. but of course, that couldn't happen in this context because egwene might feel weird or betrayed about seeing rand pop up in her BFF's dream because randgwene are still together. man, i don't want to be a hater but the extended randgwene is 100% to blame for the dynamics i DO want to see getting repeatedly punted off and put on the backburner! gawene didn't get to even meet, and the avirand stuff we've gotten has been perfect but it still kinda feels like they're being shafted in THEIR OWN ARC; this is the biggest time they spend alone together in the whole series but we can't even treat it as a notable focus of the season because we have to keep the focus on randgwene (and randfear) and don't want to risk tainting avirand with cheating implications by drawing the audience's attention to them too much before randgwene has broken up. and i don't know how likely it'll be for avirand to get a little moment during the cold rocks hold attack next week as i'd hoped they might, because the breakup has been dragged out yet another week so they'll be too busy giving the emotional focus to the randgwene fallout and it might STILL be too soon to let rand share any kind of little moment with avi (and in that BTS shot of sammael, he was alone with rand and egwene in a potential cold rocks hold-y set, so i wonder if rand will be sticking with egwene during the battle and avi will just have separate fight scenes).
but all i can do is wait and see how it goes down! it's obvious that avirandlayne IS coming, so i have to trust that rafe has a plan even if i can't quite see it yet haha my fear is that randgwene lasting so long in s3 will mean avirand & randlayne couldn't get as strong setup as they might have otherwise will mean them coming together in s4 will end up feeling rushed (and then gawene too which i've been looking forward to almost as much as avirandlayne, god knows what might even happen there since they are now so SO far past the date of their book meeting). why the show is choosing to fastburn the getting-togethers of endgame romances but slowburn the breakups of non-endgame ones is beyond me, but i will trust that rafe has a plan and that it will all make sense once i'm able to see the forest instead of just the trees!
returning to the dreams, i loved this sequence of egwene visiting her friends' dreams SO MUCH probably one of my favorites of the season so far!! she got so much joy out of seeing her friends happy 🥺🥺🥺 and it was such a beautiful way to show us a little bit of each friend's inner life; nynaeve's lost daughter is still weighing on her and she still dreams about a happy life with her, elayne takes such joy and wonder in learning new things and dreams of a carefree life following her heart outside the confines of duty, perrin's happy place is being at home with his forge and hopper (my heart!!) and he's starting to take faile into his heart too, and MAT!!!! mat's dream killed me dead!!! he has often been played for comic relief this season, so i was really thrilled to get this beautiful reminder of his layers and depth and the good, selfless heart he has underneath the bravado, and particularly glad to get this scene for donal!mat who hasn't had much chance to get the family stuff that barney!mat had so much of in s1 - it really helps keep up the consistency between the two versions and connect our present mat back to s1 mat. all he wants is to give his sisters a good life and hear his mom tell him she's proud of him!! which is such a gutpunch after her death in this episode!
can somebody PLEASE tell mat he's a good boy and they're proud of him!!! my Show!Mat Has A Praise Kink agenda grows stronger every day. man, between mat's dream and rand being so happy playing with the child, my s1 show-only observation that rand and mat would be each other's ideal partner in domestic family life remains spot-on. let them be dads!!
anyway, mat's mom! i was SO not expecting her to die, what a shock! and a good decision, it adds some stakes to the two rivers plotline and gives perrin even more of a reason to want to fight back instead of giving himself up and giving into the whitecloaks. and it seems we're getting the book arc of bode being able to channel! since the girls are twins in the show, i wonder if they can both channel or only one. and i also wonder how big or small of a plot point this might end up being; it's pretty small in the books, but the show has placed more emphasis on mat's family, so maybe they might do a little bit more with it? his sisters are still definitely tertiary characters, though, so i don't know. my biggest wish would be for a full wonderboy reunion in s4 so that perrin can tell mat about his mom and we can see mat react to her death (and i can get a cauthor hurt/comfort fic scenario out of it, priorities priorities haha), and ideally bode & eldrin traveled with perrin and mat can reunite with them at least for a moment. because we know that, if the books are followed, perrin and the cauthon girls will cross paths with rand soon after the two rivers arc (so likely s4), so if they can just get mat back in rand's plotline for s4 to do his TFOH dragon's general plotline, then we could get mat coming into contact with perrin and the girls as well. but as i've speculated before, this might depend on how many total seasons they anticipate getting and whether they have time to send mat back across the continent for a season or whether they need to jump into his west coast seanchan plotline immediately in s4.
good stuff in the two rivers plotline this episode! i loved perrin and faile's battle couple moment <3 and the perrin-dain face-to-face reunion was just as messy and delicious as i'd hoped! "i thought you were a good man" "i was, before you" okay okay
my one complaint about this plotline is, i have to embarrassedly put on my bookcloak hat, but i am really feeling the "alanna and her warders are getting too much time" complaints this season haha i didn't mind in the first 2 seasons, but now they're overstaying their welcome for me. it might not actually be true, but it feels like we've spent more time on alanna and maksim's relationship than perrin and faile's this season! however, i am almost certain that maksim will die in the two rivers battle, especially now that he and alanna had a mini arc of working out their problems and realizing that they're stronger when they stick together - surely that's GOT to mean maksim has to die in order for alanna to lose it enough that she does what she does in LOC next season. and if that happens, then i'll be fine with them getting so much time this season to build up to that death and make us understand why alanna loses it so badly. another thing where i'll have to reserve final judgment until i've seen the forest instead of only the trees!
speaking of people who may or may not be on Death Watch, moiraine and siuan! i really loved their scene together and thought it was so beautiful. as for predictions, i'm split 50/50 on whether them getting to mend fences and share a happy moment and a bittersweet goodbye means this is the final curtain call for their relationship and one or both of them will be dead-dead by the end of the season, or whether the "i'll find you in every lifetime" "and i'll wait for you every time" is foreshadowing of siuan going to find moiraine in finnworld at the end of the show. i just don't know!
i loved the lan and moiraine scene of them sharing a drink. perfect!
tower plotline: it was fine, got the job done
tanchico crew: bringing the comedy as always! i loved the opening scene with bickering matlayne and seasick nynaeve, absolutely impeccable vibes, and then min officially joins the gang (i loved the "raise your hand if you've been personally victimized by liandrin" moment between the four of them lmao). as somebody who's been starting to feel oversaturated with the mat-min dynamic, i was disappointed that he left elayne and nynaeve's scene so quickly to wind up hanging out alone with min yet again, but we did get some great stuff between the trio and the quartet nonetheless! still, at this point it's kinda feeling like mat was lifted out of the waste storyline purely to hang out with min for the second season in a row (and arguably to act as a support piece in HER storyline about learning how to find agency in her visions, more so than having his own storyline get focused on), but i'm sure in ep6 that will change and mat will get more time to shine and more chances to interact with non-min characters since tanchico is slated to be the A plot. i'm very excited to see this plotline lead an episode, it's been a long time coming!
we did finally get a reference to the s2 rand viewing and we learn that mat's takeaway is that min's viewings aren't even accurate because she said he would kill rand and he didn't. and then in the ep6 preview it showed mat trying to pump some tanchico citizens for info about the male a'dam collar, so i just might get a little cauthor crumb next week with mat being worried about rand getting collared and wanting to help protect him!
i think that's everything off the top of my head for this episode!
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problematic-yuri-poll · 4 months ago
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Problematic Yuri Tournament Season 2 - Losers' Round 7
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Murciélago vs. My Girlfriend's Not Here Today
Murciélago (manga by Yoshimurakana)
action, comedy
Sexual Content: HIGH; Gore: HIGH; Violence: HIGH
Submitted 2 times.
Submitted problematic elements:
Main character is a serial killer lesbian. theres incest, rape, body horror, emotional manipulation, among others
Protagonist is a serial killer, sexual predator, and a pedophile. She's basically the worst woman of all time. She also manipulates several women into sleeping with her.
Submitted content warnings:
oh yeah i mean tw for violence, incest, rape, bullying, children in peril and others
Extreme violence and gore, explicit sex, sexual assault, pedophilia, child murder, cannibalism, and just a general mess of nasty stuff
Submitted propaganda:
Its got an actually evil lesbian MC who has a lot of depth. Its funny as fuck and its got really interesting narrative, amazing action and compelling characters. Its also very sexy and beautifully drawn
Kuroko Koumori is the best character in yuri history and absolutely nobody does it like her.
My Girlfriend's Not Here Today (manga by Iwami Kiyoko)
drama, romance, psychological
Sexual Content: HIGH; Gore: NONE; Violence: NONE
Mod submission.
Mod-submitted problematic elements:
cheating, dubcon, toxic relationships
Mod-submitted content warnings:
sometimes in this series consent can be iffy. also, occasional suicidal ideation, pet death, family death, parental abuse
Mod-submitted propaganda:
for those who love messy drama! self-described by the author as "disturbing trash yuri". maybe polyamory could have saved them but it's too late now and honestly we prefer to watch them get worse.
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chaifootsteps · 1 year ago
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hey chai, long post incoming--i'm slowly chipping away at a draft of a vivzie drama masterpost i'll be phrasing as "why are people mad at vivziepop" for new-comers. i'll be including screenshots where i can and small summaries for things. that said, this is my rough list, have i missed anything that you can think of, or any specifics you think outta be mentioned?
VivziePop General Issues - Some from the Past that still happen in the Present
Inability to Handle Criticism / Confrontation
Transphobia
Misogynistic Tendencies
Issues with Improper Crediting / "Stealing" Ideas
Liking Tweets of Fans and Otherwise Who Agree with Her / Praise Her / Defend Her
Most of both her series’ “charm” is thanks to people other than her
Despite having two "LGBT+ friendly" series she primarily focuses on gay men and hasn't been the most LGBT+ friendly in other areas (acephobia, transphobia, lack of rep for queer women/wlw, thinks polyamory is just an excuse to cheat)
Conflicts between Vivzie putting forth an image of a struggling small-time creator who pulled herself up by the bootstraps and made it VS. circumstantial evidence that she is very well off financially and always has been; had her schooling paid for, spent a summer in Paris, takes expensive trips, makes expensive purchases, and lives in a million dollar house with multiple bedrooms and a pool
Testimonies of Ex-Employees and Friends
Erin Frost
KenDraws
Salem
VivziePop “Canon Events” of the Past and Present (20??-Present)
The Snake Tub & Creepy Fanart
Blaire White Fanart
Nazi Sausage Party Fan-Characters from blog “i-hate-jewce”
Starvader Drama
DollCreep / JayJay/Jiji Drama
Viv guilt-tripped a Patron for trying to get at least a partial refund for a financial emergency--many feel that while Viv was in the right for not wanting to refund the Patron, she handled it extremely poorly
Viv's 2018 "Apology"
Support of Angel Dust x Valentino as a “r*pe ships”
Her sister apologized on her behalf to someone she cyber bullied and her sister cited Viv as “having a problem” cyberbullying people. [Kedi's consequent reaching out to the sister having heard she was being a mediator for said person resulted in Viv saying Kedi was stalking her family.]
Viv kicking the original Hazbin Hotel pilot cast after saying she’d fight to keep them onboard [Michael has stated it was not a union issue and explained how he was even willing to shoulder the cost of having him on the show but was still let go.]
Viv saying redesigns are "disrespectful"
VivziePop Opinions of Other Artists
“I could destroy her” and everything else shitty she said about Kyra -- Kyra’s "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" comic & tweets People Suspect Are About Vivzie
Calling Tracy Annoying
Ashley (Creator of Far-Fetched)
- Viv wasn’t happy with Hunicast’s popularity (mainly run by Ashley) and was mad people were mistaking Ashley for the creator of Hazbin Hotel despite Ashley always making sure to correct people. - Viv learned something personal about Ashley that she used to make fun of her behind her back. - Allegedly one of the reasons Viv kicked most the original VA cast of Hazbin Hotel were due to them associating with Ashley. - Allegedly didn’t like that Ashley was leaving to work on her own indie pilot (Far-Fetched)
Bullying KediKatzen for having a similar art style, accusing Kedi of stalking her and her family, cyberbullying Kedi
SpindleHorse Related (VivziePop’s Animation Studio)
Rushed, Disorganized, Unprofessional Productions
Favoritism by Viv
“Cliquey” Behavior from Executives
Tight Deadlines
Underpaying
Working on other projects / working multiple jobs was generally frowned upon and discouraged.
In at least two instances Viv actually went out of her way to try and keep people from being hired elsewhere. - In one she told Ashley that Erin was "mentally unstable" - In another she told Nico Colaleo (Ollie & Scoops) not to hire “her artists” aka people working on her project(s).
VivziePop Criticisms Specific to Her Writing
Being Known to Skip Development to “Get to the Good Stuff”
Revealing / Confirming Story and World Lore via Liking Tweets, Making Tweets, or Behind a Patreon Paywall, instead of writing them into the series itself
Adding New Ideas Just Because She Likes Them, with Little Regard for how they Affect the Story
Rushing Characters’ Development and/or Retconning Characters to fit New Plots / Ideas
Apparent Lack of Research, Or At Least Poor Execution, of Her Ideas, Resulting in “Wasted Potential”
Concern over Mis-Management of “Morally Gray” and “Abusive” Character / Relationship Dynamics
Concern over apparent increasing themes of Inc*st in Helluva Boss
VivziePop Criticisms Specific to Her Art / Character Design
Over-Detailed Character Designs
Confusing Character Designs
Character Designs with Too Many Colors
Art style / designs that are “not animation friendly” --As well as her personal quality of art deteriorating over time
Animation is jittery, moving too much, or moving too fast
What Happened with Lackadaisy
VivziePop allegedly wanted to be on the Lackadaisy production in the past, but didn’t get hired
VivziePop has called Lackadaisy Creator Tracy “annoying” for “being active” in an animation channel on Discord
VivziePop tweeted a screenshot of a $5,000 Pledge to Lackadaisy’s backer-kit [which would’ve given Spindlehorse an Associate Producer’s credit on the future Lackadaisy productions]
Lackadaisy Crew Member ZeBirdBrain passive-aggresively replied that “since Medrano couldn’t be bothered to share the donation link, here it is!” And that money amount didn’t matter, every little bit counts.
It was revealed by SH Animator Mel in reply to ZeBirdBrain that the donation came from multiple team-members at SH (VivziePop did not mention this in her donation tweet.)
ZeBirdBrain deleted her original tweet.
ZeBirdBrain was harassed by VivziePop fans to be fired
Fans found tweets in ZeBirdBrain’s likes that appeared to be transphobic
One of ZeBirdBrain’s friends, a trans man, spoke up in defense of Ze, that Ze had known them since before their transition in 2013 and had been nothing but supportive.
Lackadaisy Co-Creator Fable, a trans masc, chimed in that they were made aware of the tweets, they looked into the matter, and were satisfied with the explanations they were given and hoped that would be enough for everyone.
[Fighting continued between fans and Lackadaisy crew members but the general consensus from the Lackadaisy crew seemed to be that they knew Ze to be a supportive ally, the liked tweets were a debated subject even in trans circles w/trans folk on both sides of the argument, Ze uses/used her likes as bookmarks rather than using the bookmark feature, and the reason Ze wasn’t saying all this herself was out of fear the rabid fandom wouldn’t take her word for it and would instead slander her further.]
Later, Lackadaisy’s Backer-Kit campaign ended, at which point Backer-Kit begins processing all the payments.
VivziePop posts a screenshot that “Spindlehorse’s” donation was denied.
Tracy replied to Viv’s tweet professionally, saying they had explained to SH the reason for the denial in private.
Viv’s fanbase became increasingly volatile towards this, claiming Tracy was “unprofessional” and “just should’ve accepted the money” and everyone should “boycott Lackadaisy”
Tracy, on one of her servers, not only elaborated more on the Ze incident (repeating much of what had already been said), but also revealed they had actually reached out to Spindlehorse in private, well before the campaign ended, and requested that they withdraw their donation. Spindlehorse refused.
i think that's about it--and obv where screenshots are available they will be linked in the full post i eventually make.
This looks amazing to me, and also you're doing god's work; something like this was insanely needed.
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vickyvicarious · 11 months ago
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You may be interested in this article about ine if the "unpublished" letters in Dracula. It's the letter from Mina to Lucy that we don't get to see.
https://www.mpw.ac.uk/2021/03/18/the-suppressed-letter-in-dracula/
(I've not read all of it yet, but the author takes jabs at the literary critics who call Lucy frivolous and empty headed)
(Link for ease of clicking.) Okay, so this is another instance of the author raising several interesting points but then interpreting them in ways that go wildly against my view of the book and the characters.
Mina's missing letter to Lucy is indeed interesting. I love the defense of Lucy's intelligence. The idea of condolences being given in some capacity as well is quite interesting. There are certainly hints towards bisexuality/polyamory throughout the story. Lucy's search for the key vs. Jonathan's search for the key is something I've noted myself.
However...
Then the article begins to suggest that Dracula/vampires are liberating in some way. They don't come right out and say it but there are hints with the suspicion at Mina's description of her attack (I read it as her guilt complex, not her in denial about having actual complicity) or remarking that Dracula is Lucy's key and generally leads to freedom in the various escape scenes except with Jonathan (Lucy tries to take a literal key from Mina; when she leaves she is put in a position of danger. There is something to be discussed about 'freedom from the cage' with Lucy, Renfield, Bersicker leaving the home/asylum/zoo... but it's notable that they never actually become free, just puppeted by or drawn to Dracula, and they're all hurt in the process). I don't think Mina blushing in that scene where she asked if her entry was necessary to add was because she felt guilty about possibly having cheated/wanted to with Arthur - I think she didn't want to embarrass people, and also maybe was embarrassed at her own excitement/gushing. I don't believe Mina's letter about her wedding was trying to convince Lucy to follow her duty and marry a man she doesn't love, but instead meant as a comfort in advance for the loss of her mother that Mina knew would soon occur.
I don't think that Lucy doesn't love Arthur. If anything, I think her difficulty speaking about him in too great detail suggests her love for him is deeper and more genuine. The lack of detail in the proposal scene is actually a match with a pattern in books like Jane Austen, where bad proposals are delivered exactly and good ones are summarized. I think Lucy loves Arthur a lot, and her line about marrying three men is more reflective of her not wanting to disappoint them than her genuinely being romantically inclined towards them. I did a whole analysis of that entry last year, talking about how Lucy and Arthur are shown to be more in sync than she is with either other suitor.
However, his alignment with Mrs. Westenra is really interesting, and I do agree that he is the definitely the one that there would be pressure towards. Quincey is rich, Jack has had an impressive career - but Arthur is rich, titled, established in local society, and of the same/greater social class. I think, however, that the tension here revolves around Lucy and Mrs. Westenra, not Lucy and Arthur. Mrs. Westenra clearly wants them to be married, and I suspect is going to a fair bit of effort to push them together. I wonder if she is the chaperone for them, and in fact is not allowing them alone together (something Lucy mentions about Arthur's proposal, that he had tried a couple times but didn't get the chance). But Lucy's mother isn't just pushy about Arthur. She infantilizes Lucy and doesn't tell her things, and I think is a major contributor to Lucy's own difficulty about speaking up about her own feelings.
I've spoken in the past about how key the fundamental truthfulness of our authors is to this book. And that's something the article discusses as well, remarking how they all align with one another to tell a single agreed story despite different authors. However, I don't think we're intended to try and read between the lines to find places where they are lying/hiding from one another. And I also just don't think they are for the most part. It ties into the themes of the book more for them to be open where they can, and thus makes them sharing these documents more significant as well. Admittedly, the author of this article isn't suggesting that Lucy is outright lying to Mina here... more that she is forcing herself into playing a role, and Mina sees through it. But I still think that undercuts the primarily happy tone of this letter in a real way.
I do love the idea that Mina's letter does have some actual commiseration about things that are bothering Lucy. But I would read that as being much more about Mrs. Westenra and Lucy's expected role in society. Lucy wants to speak more of Arthur but she can't, because of the type of restrictions a lady has to follow. That sort of thing, more than doubting Lucy's feelings for Arthur are genuine. She's obviously stressed about marrying him, hence the sleepwalking, but again I don't doubt her feelings for him. I think it's the major shift in role and also concern for her mother, possibly mixed in with resentment of her.
Mina and duty is also an interesting topic and there is plenty to discuss there. But I don't see her as forcing herself in her various relationships. She genuinely loves Jonathan, her support for Lucy and Arthur is genuine too. She actually assigns things she does for fun to dutiful reasoning several times. I just... don't agree with the way this article interprets its topic.
Relatedly, there are several other letters alluded to that we never get to see. I recently noticed Jonathan's short letter to Mina before arriving at the castle, but there are more to come. Some of them also seem relevant to the plot, perhaps even more so than some of these letters between Lucy and Mina. But I think these are included because they establish things that become relevant, such as Mina's plan to keep a journal, Mina's knowledge of the three suitors before she meets them, Lucy's health at various points, and such details. Why things make it in or don't can still be interesting to discuss, but I just don't interpret them as ever holding some key that will unlock a secret hidden in the rest of the book. Whether that be about relationships or events.
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critter-rarepair-reccs · 1 year ago
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Hello all! Hope your Wednesday has been well so far. This week we have fourteen fics featuring various different polyamorous ships! As always, you can find them below the cut and if you check any of them out, I encourage you to leave kudoes and comments to spread the rarepair love 💕
gilded mischief by annie_blackbird (20,437 words, Explicit) Pairing: Yussa Errenis/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Shadowidoyussa) Warnings: Consensual Somnophilia, Safeword Use, Mentions of Slavery
Caleb and Essek spend a night with Yussa, with Caleb under the effect of a sleeping potion. After some discussion, the night progresses with Essek as Yussa's very good boy.
Reccer Says: *grabs you by the shoulder* you need to read this fic. Even if you're not already aboard the Shadowidoyussa ship. It will convert you. It is so soft. It is so hot. Like, the perfect balance of tooth-rotting fluff and scorchingly hot smut. Yussa is Exandria's softest dom and I adore him. Essek is a sweetheart doing his very best and I'm holding him in my hands. Caleb is asleep but the ways he's still a present influence on the story through Essek's POV is absolutely wonderful. Please read it, you will not regret it.
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can't you see yourself by my side? by ryseling (7,519 words, Explicit) Pairing: Fjord/Jester Lavorre/Caleb Widogast (Widofjorester) Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Under-negotiated Relationship
Fjord and Jester are together, and Caleb - hopelessly in love with them as he is - agrees to a threesome. Porn with feelings, Caleb POV.
Reccer Says: Very well written in terms of style. Everyone also feels very in character.
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Hearts Full of Light by kaeda (5,032 words, Mature) Pairing: Astrid Beck/Fjord/Eadwulf Grieve/Jester Lavorre Warnings: None
The nein & friends are restoring the blooming grove after Trent's attack in 141. Mostly lighthearted as Jester meddles & matchmakes. POV alternating between Fjord and Jester.
Reccer Says: Jester/Astrid/Fjord/Eadwulf is such an underrated rarepair.
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all glittering things by quinn_of_aebradore (32,418 words, Teen) Pairing: Mollymauk Tealeaf/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Shadowidomauk) Warnings: Minor Canon Character Death
"Essek Thelyss, prodigious dunamancer and crown Prince of Rosohna. Caleb Widogast, illustrious court mage for the Lord Eadwulf Grieve of Blumenthal. Mollymauk Tealeaf, Opal of Nicodranas, fourth child of the Tealeaf Estate. What happens when affection escapes the bounds of propriety and courting? What comes once a kiss has been bestowed? A romance draped with light and honey, of course."
Reccer Says: I just love this entire AU so much so I'm cheating and reccing the whole thing lol... it's so well done and thoughtfully constructed, and they're sooo lovey dovey and pining and flirty ugghggh - bonus: the lucien vs essek part makes me especially feral 🤣💜
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Kisses by the Road by Clare_Hope (6,351 words, Teen) Pairing: Dorian Storm/Fearne Calloway/Dariax Zaveon/Opal Warnings: Alcohol
Fearne wins the drinking contest in Byroden and requests kisses as her prize. Polyamory and shenanigans ensue.
Reccer Says: I enjoyed it!
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I dream of you amid the flowers by glittergarbage (66,967 words, Explicit) Pairing: Mollymauk Tealeaf/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Shadowidomauk) Warnings: Dirty Talk, Smut, AFAB NB Molly, Threesome
"In which Mollymauk comes back to his body, minus a few memories, at the Blooming Grove. Essek is intrigued. Caleb is glad."
Reccer Says: I LOVE THIS FIC SM.... it's such a perfect post-canon depiction of the slow, realistic, exciting, curious unfolding of their relationship, and I love their characterizations and dynamics 🥰🥰🥰 it's a SWM classic to me
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First Light by the_deep_magic (5,673 words, Explicit) Pairing: Ashton Greymoore/Orym/Dorian Storm (Dashrym) Warnings: None
Ashton wakes up while Orym is doing his morning exercises, which they find Very Sexy. Dorian, already awake, agrees and the two of them pretend to be asleep until Orym is done and they can have sex about it.
Reccer Says: Domestic Dashrym, hot smut, and a very well-written Ashton POV 💕
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locked in here with us by wanderingbasilisk (3,002 words, General) Pairing: Mollymauk Tealeaf/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Shadowidomauk) Warnings: None
"a dragon, a damsel in a tower, a knight in shining armor you can guess how this goes ;)"
Reccer Says: Love a fairytale AU! It's just so sweet and fun and adorable and there's a little sprinkle of angst in there which is sooo good 💜🧡💜 delightful and heartwarming
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in the light of long-dead things by Anonymous (3,426 words, Teen) Pairing: Astrid Beck/Eadwulf Grieve/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Blumenshadow) Warnings: PTSD, Panic Attacks
While spending the night in Caleb’s tower, Astrid gets thrown into the past.
Reccer Says: God, the way this one has Stuck with me since I first read it. The visual of Astrid squeezing herself under the nook by the stairs is burned into my brain. Her panic, Wulf coaxing her back to herself and the present, her reactions to Caleb and Essek, it’s all so heartaching and wonderful, I love it so much.
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to be in someone else's coat by jaskofalltrades (1,369 words, General) Pairing: Mollymauk Tealeaf/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Shadowidomauk) Warnings: None
Widomauk/Pre-Shadowidomauk where Molly and Caleb were the ones to walk Essek home from dinner at the Xhorhaus
Reccer Says: Listen SWM canon molly lives AU is a wonderful and rare creature and this is one such example that gave me the warm cozies... also I LOVE WHEN THEY FLIRT AAAA 💜💕
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Where I am going you can't save me by thesweetpianowritingdownmylife (20,461 words, Teen) Pairing: Jester Lavorre/Beauregard Lionett/Yasha Nydoorin (Beauyashter) Warnings: Graphic Depictions of Violence, Vomiting, Blood
Yasha starts coughing up petals, white and blue. There is no doubt to whom they belong. Aka Beaujasha Hanahaki AU. Set after episode 89.
Reccer Says: I enjoyed it!
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keep following the heartlines on your hands by floralprintshark (8,014 words, Teen) Pairing: Fjord/Mollymauk Tealeaf/Caleb Widogast (Widofjolly) Warnings: None
Five times Molly tries to set up Fjord and Caleb with each other and one time Molly gets set up with them.
Reccer Says: I enjoyed it!
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We also have two reccs for: the stranger who was your self by Demenior (60,045 words, Mature) Pairing: Fjord/Eadwulf Grieve/Jester Lavorre Warnings: Power Dynamics
Eadwulf joins Fjord & Jester's crew as they sail the Lucidian. POV alternating between the three leads. Fjord and Jester are about to embark on a high-seas adventure...and Eadwulf shows up and insists on joining their crew. They don't know what he's plotting (or what he's running away from,) but that won't stop them from flirting with him until they find out.
Reccer 1 Says: I enjoyed it! Reccer 2 Says: Adorable Fjorester flirting. All the sexual tension of that one sword fight between Fjord and Eadwulf. Unstoppable force (Jester Lavorre) meets immovable object (the world's most miserable, wretched wet dog of a scourger.)
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And we have three reccs for: amongst the things left unforgiven by nonwal (63,958 words, Mature) Pairings: Astrid Beck/Eadwulf Grieve/Essek Thelyss, Astrid Beck/Eadwulf Grieve/Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast (Blumenshadow) Warnings: Panic Attacks, Discussions of Suicidality/Euthenasia, Temporary Character Death, Suicidal Ideation
Astrid and Eodwulf start visiting Essek in Rosonah to keep an eye on him, then Essek starts visiting them at Caleb's tower in Rexxentrum to keep an eye on them. They dance around eachother in conversation out of mutual distrust (and flirting) long enough to save Essek from himself and fall in love about it. Astrid and Eadwulf take it upon themselves to save Essek from himself. Two scourgers show up at Essek's home to interrogate him about the Mighty Nein. Then he discovers that both of them are also uselessly pining over Caleb. Then, he gets closer than advisable.
Reccer 1 Says: the character dynamics and banter are absolutely top notch. the author really nails the character voices. Reccer 2 Says: I enjoyed it! Reccer 3 Says: An alternate ending to C2 with a great balance of intrigue, angst, slow-burn romance, and fluff (if you can count three wizards lying to each other for fun as fluff.)
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Thank you for joining us this week’s recc list! All the love to everyone who submitted a fic 💕 All enclosed recommendations were submitted by the community via our submissions form, which you can find here. All fic information is as it was provided by the reccer, so it may not be accurate to the author’s intent or the precise contents of the fic itself. Please assume good intent from all parties 💕
Submissions for next week’s list are already open! We’ll be featuring Enemies to Lovers. If you have any you’d like to highlight, you can send them in here. The week after that, the theme is Miscommunication and the weeks after that we’re taking recommendations for Works in Progress and Angst! Submissions for all of these themes are currently open.
If you want more rarepair fic, check out @cr-summer-wildflowers and their event collections on ao3! If you want some friendship after all this romance, take a look at @critter-genfic-events and their recc lists! And if you’re interested in everyone’s favorite wizards, you can’t go wrong with the lists at @aeor-is-for-reccing !
Thanks all and have a lovely day/night/timezone! 💕
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the aromantic is confuesed
☆ Aromantic culture is just genuenly not understanding the difference between romantic relationships and platonic friendships.
☆ Fyi: apologies for the plethora of "like," statments, it just feels more natural for some reason. I expect this to possibly get hated on? I dont know, couldnt care less if it dose tho 🤷🏻‍♂️
☆ Like, I just dont understand the concept of cheating. I get its considered bad. I get why its considered bad as its a breach of trust/boundaries/etc, but i dont understand why people prefer to be monogamous as i genuinely just dont see a difference between friends and romantic partners, I get that there is a difference, i respect that differece where people draw it themselves, I just can't see it.
☆ Like, I see the difference between queerplatonic relashionships & friendship, but I just can't distinguish any other type of relashionship & romance for some reason.
☆ And i just dont get why theres a distinction between monogamy & polyamory either? Like, were people? Why not be open to the possibility of feelings not following the preset mold of a random relashionship Hiarchy? Like ofc you can have your own rules in a relashionship, but I just dont get why monogamy with the 1 perfect "other half of you" is the priority vs fulfillment? Like, I don't expect 1 person to be my "other half" for the rest of my life, nor do I want someone to expect that of me cause that just feels like dumping way to many expectations onto 1 person. And like, you can devide yourself amoung multiple friends why not multiple romantic partners?
☆ And i dont get wanting a lifelong relashionship like that? I mean i do get wantinv 1 but expecting 1 i feel is just throwing alot of expectations on anither person, people change, feelings change, alot changes in life. It reminds me of how people are expected to choose what they want to do for the rest of your life as a teenager.
☆ Why r y'all bringing the government into your relashionship? And why do y'all STRIVE for that? Like, "lets officially legaly combine ourselves into a unit and make it real damn difficult if we end up seperating." Why should having a romantic partner logustically help you in life?? Like "hey, these 2 ppl said i do infront of an officiant, lets see if we can improve theyre taxes." How is they're logistically a "making this relashionship official" outside of- consenting parties deciding they're in a relashionship????
☆ Like, everyone was assigned to make a different venn diagram and label it with arbitrary concepts and they're relation/similarities/lack thereof, and its graded on participation; But everyone still argued over the non answer because they just can't fathom they're being no wrong answer.
☆ This isn't really meant to change anyones mind on romance, do whatever tf you want with your relashionships its your life; This is just me being real fucking confused at why people arbitrarily made these catagories lol.
☆ This was origonally gonna be an ask on an aromantic culture is blog but I quickly realized this was gonna be way too long for that.
☆ I may or may not add more mini rants to this in future reblogs this is just what I could think of as I was writing. Thanks if you actually read all of this
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simblorbo-bracket · 1 month ago
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Round 5 - Simblr's Saddest, Wettest Meow Meow - Losers Bracket
Thrum (@ssspringroll) VS. Andre St. Fleur (@armoricaroyalty)
(polls are presented left -> right unless stated otherwise)
They may be down, but they're not out yet! Who deserves a shot at redemption, to prove that they, truly, are the saddest and wettest of meow meows despite all the odds?
What is a ‘Meow Meow’?
(taken from tumblr user @/torturelabyrinth) “The thing about a true poor little meow meow is they have to be 1) downtrodden 2) morally questionable at best 3) deeply and pathetically miserable”
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Thrum
What makes Thrum a sad, wet little meow meow? His own fucked up, twisted little romance life.
Try to keep up.
Thrum, you see, is incredibly loyal. So loyal, and so, so jealous.
Another thing about Thrum, is that he's polyamorous. He really prefers having more than one partner. His partner, Wither, is not into the whole poly thing. But, for Thrum's sake, he agrees.
Enter Ke'a.
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Thrum is the one that notices Ke'a at a bar one night, and instantly has a crush. Has to get him in this newly-opened relationship.
Ke'a is also not too keen on the polyamory, but agrees to give it a try.
He hits it off with Wither almost right away, which is a relief because you'd think that the two dudes in this polycule who aren't into the idea of a polycule might fight over the guy they mutually like.
This is not the case.
Thrum, boiling with white hot incandescent rage and jealousy at the mere thought of either of his partners talking to someone else leads him to violence.
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Drinking, to cope with the rage
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His outbursts are almost constant, he can't exist in the same room as his partners without further driving a wedge between himself and them. And that's not the end of it, all of Thrum's hot-and-cold back-and-forth feelings about this polycule he built have driven Wither and Ke'a even closer to each other.
They go on dates behind his back, bonding, forming a closer relationship with each other than either of them had ever built with Thrum.
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Thrum was always doomed to fail. To push himself out of his own relationship. But can you blame him for craving love? All of the love? Forever??
Thrum, Wither, and Ke'a are all original creations. While Thrum and Ke'a were literally made for each other, Ke'a entered the situation organically, and that's when it all started crashing and burning to the ground.
The throuple that flew too close to the sun 💔
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Andre St. Fleur
What makes him a Sad, Wet Meow Meow? Born to royalty but completely temperamentally unsuited for it, Andre is pathetic and sad and weak-willed and a big, giant loser. He's the king of a small and unimportant country, and he simply cannot parent effectively or stop cheating on his wife. Finally forced to decide between his mistress and his wife of nearly 30 years, he became so paralyzed with indecision that he developed a terminal illness instead, saving him from ever having to make up his mind about anything.
Just some additional pictures of Andre moping, crying, and letting his loved ones down </3
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I think my boy has the potential to go far, but even if he gets knocked out in the first round...what could be sadder, wetter, or more pathetic than getting immediately eliminated from the "most pathetic" tournament?
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obstinaterixatrix · 1 year ago
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reading a bl where the mc is extremely monogamous and the li is in a lot of casual open relationships but 1) it’s framed by the mc as ‘cheating’ and I can’t tell if it’s an overall narrative thing or just a character thing yet, BUT since the endgame is certainly going to be a monogamous relationship between mc and li, it doesn’t really feel like the author’s going to really hit on the actual nuance of cheating as a betrayal of trust vs open relationships meaning informed consent between all parties (the girls in the manga seem chill with it) UNLESS the trajectory of the narrative is to make this distinction clear and remove the barrier to mc & li’s relationship, but even if that were the case it inherently reinforces the dominant narrative of monogamous relationships as inherently more valuable and endgame which frames polyamory/open relationships as inferior/temporary. 2) even though there seems to be informed consent with the li’s open relationships, I do feel like he talks a lot about his female partners doing things for him so he’s kind of a leech, he kind of sucks
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hertwood · 3 months ago
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whiile i would still consider myself ambiamorous i'm recognizing that my solo poly ideas and aversion to living with other people was very down to. i needed a break from being her all the time. dating was "fun" as her but i could recognize, for reasons i couldn't understand, that doing that nonstop would be exhausting.
(in general i think we all would benefit from seeing monogamous vs polyamorous as a spectrum instead of one or the other. all polyamory is is a different set of boundaries for a relationship, but EVERY couple really SHOULD be establishing exactly what boundaries they want, and i think a lot of problems in monogamy are a misalignment in boundary expectations. "i cant believe my boyfriend won't stop watching porn, its cheating" did you establish this as a boundary from the getgo? just say you are incompatible and breakup!!!!!!!!!)
but i think i rly would be ok with monogamy in terms of--only being with one person at a time. i could never do all that pretending i cease to find other people attractive/not consume pornographic material etc etc. but plenty of monog ppl DONT expect that kind of exclusivity from their partners so i know those kind of relationships exist.
but in terms of partnership as in moving in together/having a life partnership is no longer a terrifying prospect to me. which is very weird to have to. rethink my entire future as not being alone and sad all the time. living with a boyfriend or a girlfriend no longer sounds like a nightmare as long as /i/ get to be a boyfriend too!!!!! but thats such a big change for me that its like. a lot to process. also i need to get deeper into my transition before i start dating again i think but i'm still thinking a lot!!!
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problematic-yuri-poll · 5 months ago
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Problematic Yuri Tournament Season 2 - Round 3
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My Girlfriend's Not Here Today vs. A Monster Wants to Eat Me
My Girlfriend's Not Here Today (manga by Iwami Kiyoko)
drama, romance, psychological
Sexual Content: HIGH; Gore: NONE; Violence: NONE
Mod submission.
Mod-submitted problematic elements:
cheating, dubcon, toxic relationships
Mod-submitted content warnings:
sometimes in this series consent can be iffy. also, occasional suicidal ideation, pet death, family death, parental abuse
Mod-submitted propaganda:
for those who love messy drama! self-described by the author as "disturbing trash yuri". maybe polyamory could have saved them but it's too late now and honestly we prefer to watch them get worse.
A Monster Wants to Eat Me (manga by Naekawa Sai)
drama
Sexual Content: NONE; Gore: LOW; Violence: MODERATE
Mod submission.
Mod-submitted problematic elements:
Yuri about a suicidal girl and the monster girl who says she wants to kill and eat her. Not necessarily the most problematic yuri, all things considered, but it gets a spot here.
Mod-submitted content warnings:
Violence, cannibalism, family death, and suicidal ideation.
Mod-submitted propaganda:
A pretty manga that does well at conveying a melancholic atmosphere, and has cute monster girls... There's a lot of love put into the characters.
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dhr-ao3 · 1 year ago
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Serpents and Honey
Serpents and Honey https://ift.tt/5darYUV by KLaColeReads PART TWO to "OF PAPER CRANES AND LIES" (you must read part one FIRST): Draco has left Hogwarts on assignment to assist the assembly in the demise of the Muggle population. Hermione has been left under the care of Blaise Zabini, Draco's most trusted lifelong friend. As the relationship between the two grows, their bond changes from a simple friendship to a passionate love affair. Draco requests that he do whatever it takes to keep her comfortable, not knowing the extent of the curse or the other outlying reasons for her sickness (a lead up to book 3). He only asks that he control his desires and keep his hands to himself, but love is a drug and sex is inevitable. In this you will find a secret, forbidden kind of love and the truth to a deadly curse that they struggle to understand. The race to find the answers to the curse has begun, bringing more than just terror and a battle between friends for the same girl. But a Warlock with a dark past, a broken heart, and a vendetta brings with him a hurricane of truths. Words: 178420, Chapters: 23/23, Language: English Series: Part 2 of Trigon of Hearts Fandoms: Harry Potter - J. K. Rowling Rating: Explicit Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Categories: F/F, F/M Characters: Hermione Granger, Draco Malfoy, Harry Potter, Ron Weasley, Neville Longbottom, Adrian Pucey, Blaise Zabini, Ginny Weasley, Pansy Parkinson, Moaning Myrtle, Lucius Malfoy, Narcissa Black Malfoy, Severus Snape, Horace Slughorn, Albus Dumbledore, Bellatrix Black Lestrange, Poppy Pomfrey, Astoria Greengrass, Vincent Crabbe, Gregory Goyle, Fenrir Greyback, Wilder Carrow Relationships: Hermione Granger/Blaise Zabini, Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy, Neville Longbottom/Adrian Pucey, Harry Potter/Ginny Weasley, Lucius Malfoy/Narcissa Black Malfoy Additional Tags: Death Eater Draco Malfoy, Voldemort is Defeated in the First Wizarding War (Harry Potter), Eventual Romance, Fluff and Smut, Slow Build, Angst with a Happy Ending, Hermione Granger & Blaise Zabini Friendship, Cheating Ron Weasley, Explicit Sexual Content, Explicit Language, Explicit Consent, POV First Person, POV Alternating, Unplanned Pregnancy, Magical Pregnancy, POV Draco Malfoy, Oral Sex, Rough Sex, Vaginal Sex, Sex, Dirty Thoughts, Dirty Talk, Potions Accident, Potions Class (Harry Potter), Sexual Content, Sexual Tension, Sexual Fantasy, Public Sex, Good Slytherins, Gryffindor/Slytherin Inter-House Relationships, Slytherins Being Slytherins, Protective Slytherins, Angst and Humor, Sexual Humor, Fluff and Humor, Gryffindor vs. Slytherin Rivalry, Secret Relationship, Complicated Relationships, Romantic Friendship, Male-Female Friendship, Slytherin Hermione Granger, Erotica, Threesome - F/M/M, Polyamory via AO3 works tagged 'Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy' https://ift.tt/dKQSa0l January 20, 2024 at 11:52PM
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blubushie · 2 years ago
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monogamy vs polyamory for you personally?
favorite way to cuddle, if you like cuddles- no shame if not
What's your opinion on polyamory?
Poly is like cheating in my eyes, which is strange considering it's definitely not that since everyone's willing and happy in the relationship, but I can't shake the thought. And I recognise that I can have a mean jealous streak at times. I can get possessive. I don't share. This all means I'd be terrible in keeping a polyamorous relationship healthy. For me, it'd be doomed to fail.
Note that this is only for a committed relationship. If it's just a root like a threesome or something I don't care so much and I've done a threesome in the past. I suppose I could tolerate my partner maybe doing it for a short time because I'm not there, but over time I'd end up breaking off the relationship because all I could think about is how the other person is taking care of my partner the way I can't. I feel about poly the same way I do about toys--if you have me, what do you need them for? Except toys can't talk to you or hug you or whatever, and another person can, and I'm not there, the other person is and is providing a service I'm not able to, and I reckon I'd come to the conclusion that we're both better off going our ways instead of keeping up the relationship. Less pain involved for both parties, and there'd be a certain feeling of betrayal there that I don't think I could ever shake.
I know I engage here with some "fun" asks but it's different to me since on anon you all feel less like people and more like one collective hivemind chucking fun questions and comments at me. It doesn't feel personal like putting names and faces to it do. I've only ever been in two committed relationships, one involved long-term cheating by the other party that I didn't find out about until a lot later (and is what broke us up) and I guess when you're a hammer everything's a nail, ay?
I respect people who can make it work, but it's not for me.
Favourite way to cuddle?
I don't usually cuddle (eat, root, shoot, leave) but I reckon just lying on my back? When I'm sleeping in Matilda I'm often woken up in the middle of the night by Misty coming over and lying down against my side and resting her head on my chest and I put my arm around her and go back to sleep. That's comfortable and I like the closeness, so I reckon that'd work out fine.
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trinity-trouble · 2 years ago
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basically I was wondering about what would count as polyam, if someone in an open relationship could consider themselves polyam or would they still be considered monogamous, and if all non monogamy could be labeled as polyam? like what if someone has one primary partner but wants to have sexual interactions with other people outside the relationship? I know polyamory doesn’t have to be romantic (queerplatonic and sexual), but could that be polyam? honestly what’s the point where it’s just casual sexual relations vs sexual relationships with no romance? and honestly how do u even know if you’d want to be non monogamous/polyam or if you’re just daydreaming about other people?
i'm answering all your questions but in a disordered, i hope better for understanding, way
what would count as polyam and if all non-monogamy could be labeled as polyam?
Wikipedia defines polyamory as "the practice of, or desire for, romantic relationships with more than one partner at the same time, with the informed consent of all partners involved" which is a fairly strict and good definition
about if it's the same as non-monogamy, i'd never thought about that ngl, but now i have an answer
searching about it, apparently polyamory is usually reserved to romantic relationships, and (ethical) non-monogamy applies also to sexual ones, which makes sense given the etymology of polyamory ('poly' "many" + 'amor' "love")
anyway, they are interchangable terms and you may found them used as full synonyms
if someone in an open relationship could consider themselves polyam or would they still be considered monogamous
taking into account that they are willing to share their partner and viceversa, yes, it would be polyamorous/non-monogamous
but don't confuse it, not all poly relationships are open
open relationships are, and i quote Wikipedia again, "where one or more parties have permision to be romantically or sexually involved with people outside the relationship"
a poly relationship, it's one (1) single relationship, yes, composed of other relationships that can take many shapes (V, throuple, quad, Z, network, etc), but whose partners may or not be able to be involved with people outside the relationship, for example:
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*note that i created the graphic before answering the non-monogamy question, they are not necessarily romantic relationships
what if someone has one primary partner but wants to have sexual interactions with other people outside the relationship? I know polyamory doesn’t have to be romantic (queerplatonic and sexual), but could that be polyam?
if the primary partner is ok with that, that would make the relationship open (and therefore non-monogamous) but not polyamorous sensu stricto (as it's only for sex)
the relationship may be open for all parties or only to the one who want it, but be careful, usually one-sided open relationships are a sign of being abusive ones
what’s the point where it’s just casual sexual relations vs sexual relationships with no romance?
what's the point where it's friends with benefits vs sexual relationships with no friendship?
i know you ask about it in the context of an already existing open relationship, and if this relationship does is open both romantically and sexually, then any of them would be a possible secondary relationship of the partner
how do u even know if you’d want to be non monogamous/polyam or if you’re just daydreaming about other people?
i'm sure everyone has their different reasons, but for me, it's the fact that if my partner likes someone else or wants to have sex with other people (while still wanting to be with me), i think i don't have the right to forbid them of doing it, just of knowing about it
everyone has their different take on this, and mine is questionable at best; i'm prone against open relationships and having multiple different isolated relationships (though im kind of ok with cheating depending on circunstances) with the exception of close people to my partner (just close to them, not necessarily to me), because while i'm absolutely no jealous, i'm actually a really controlling person and i try to be on the knowing of everything i can
i also think about it, when it's in a romantic way, as a "if you, the person i like, like that person, then probably i would also like that person", maybe not in a romantic way too, but i would want to be friends with them
and finally, well, i'm a bit strange, because i'm also extremely comfortable being in a third wheel position (thus i prefer triangles), more so than a primary, because it gives me the tranquility of knowing that if i'm not there for them for whatever reason or if i mess up the other partners would still have each other
i hope these answers help you
anyway, maybe these other people (who have more experience than me) may help you too:
@polyamorousmood
the mods of @polyamships
and @polyadvice (i think is inactive, but has info on polyamory on their blog)
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vague-mintyboy · 11 months ago
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Warning: no hate to op it just literally made me spiral about challengers.
I would love to talk about the tags
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Bc I know it’s a joke but it kinda encapsulates my feelings about the reception of this movie.
Like I thought while watching Challengers that it was playing on the 80s trope of a women getting in the way of a homoerotic relationship bc Hollywood didn’t like the gays. But, the fact that it never actually was brave enough to act on the subtext makes it just another example of the trope, even if it is aware of it. Which is what this tag made me spiral about. Exactly— they didn’t even show anything. The kiss was literally unintentional which is good build up but like…that was it. It felt like an empty scene that doesn’t have any tangible repercussions. Like the kiss should have had a ripple effect across the film but nah. It’s just…left there.
I liked the movie. Everyone was hot, the camera work is genuinely jaw dropping, and I love messy, complex character studies (don’t get me started on ppl who exclusively hate on Art I stg). But it isn’t revolutionary for queer rep. It isn’t even good polyamory rep!! I’ve seen so many takes being like “finally a film where a love triangle ends up in the girl getting both guys”. NO. SHE CHEATS ON HER HUSBAND. I love when characters devolve and are complex, but no. She isn’t a girlboss with two boyfriends. Like it just straight up isn’t polyamory without communication. It isn’t even attempted polyamory. It’s just cheating. Which, again, the movie isn’t claiming it isn’t. I just hate the reception of it. Ugh.
But that’s the thing. You could cut Art and Patrick’s kiss and the own frame of bisexual tinder and nothing would change. That isn’t good queer rep. And I’m not saying to have good gay rep there needs to be happy endings or that you can’t have subtext, but goddamnit gay subtext to just make your movie edgy is so fkn 2010s. It did feel like the movie didn’t genuinely want to show a friendship that slowly becomes tainted by mutual pining and internalized homophobia. It just wants to use queerness as a garnish to comment on humanity or whatever. Which is not new. Fucking Gatsby did this.
The difference between real rep and not is resolution. Resolving the queerness doesn’t need to be positive or negative or whatever— it needs to be addressed. It just feels so dated to leave it to tumblr to directly call it gay.
I’m just tired of queerness being used as a motif vs a human fucking experience. It isn’t just decoration for your indie film it’s an entire identity and culture.
And I liked the movie!!! I genuinely did. I just don’t think it’s right to let Hollywood think that is good queer rep.
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We're not talking about tennis. What the fuck else do I have to talk to you about?
CHALLENGERS (2024) dir. Luca Guadagnino
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