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In a way, present day Sandalphon is a great foil to Lucilius, because he also doesn't get answers from the god-like figure he looks to, but Sandalphon knows that his creator loves him and loves him back

TRUUUUE.

Like i mean, Sandalphon and Lucilius were already foil because they were basically driven to madness by the fact they were clearly created by a higher being and they had no idea why, even more so learning later that their creator (Lucifer and Lucio) didn't even know why they were created (Lucifer didn't know Sandalphon's purpose/Lucio doesn't even know how he happened to have a clone). And both of them tried to destroy the world if only so that the absent figure they're blaming for their pain would pay attention to them.

but Sandalphon learnt he was loved, and that his creator would drop the whole world if he had to, if only Sandalphon could be happy. And being loved by the person he devoted himself to at least was enough for Sandalphon to try to figure out how to give this love back to the world around him, the world his beloved loved so much.

while Lucilius is still left on mute by Bahamut, and Lucio treated him more like a curious experiment than someone he could care about (credit where credit is due Lucio still was developping his people skills), and even there Lucilius was already too far gone anyway.

Sandalphon foils people in wmtsb in such a way because everyone who has huge impact on the story is craving for love and recognization or pure free will, and Sandalphon was the one who managed to reach that by being loved by his creator who freed him from all of his burdens, while the rest of the antagonist are left abandonned in some way, and while the Astrals have learnt to be self reliant it left the one primal who stayed behind even more starved for it than they could be.

anyway many thoughts but yeah the way Sandalphon foils Lucilius even more because they were much more similar than Lucilius was to Lucifer actually, which enrages Lucilius, but Sandalphon managed to move past that. Lucilius, meanwhile, is still stuck in this homeostasis he hates so much.

crazy huh....

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About Kang Ki Hyung: He was playing hide & seek or something like that with his son and he reproduced tick tack noises as to symbolize time running out. Maybe that triggered him and he immediately thought of running out of time to stop the bomb (usually a bombs are associated with "ticking"). It was not well executed/editet though, they could have merged the scenes with the help of the ticking sound and the bomb timer instead of jumping to the explosion scene right away. You're complaining about the lack of Nana in the first episode but just for comparision, Garcier had even less screen time in the first CM episode (I think she just had one scene). I'm not sure about the part "But this doesn’t look like the room of a murderer" / "It looks like my cousin's room". In the US CM episode 1, they're actually saying something similar along the lines that it's a boy's room and not a man's to illustrate that something is strange. The lines in US CM were clearly better chosen but I'm not sure if the Korean writers just messed up a bit or if it was a translation mistake (I don't speak Korean). Btw, Reid is profiling with the help of a Go board in episode 1 as well. Lee Han comes to the exact same conclusion as Reid. So if you're complaining about that in the SK version, you have to complain about it in the US version as well. I agree, though, that the guy acting as Lee Han isn't doing his job very well. Maybe that's why everything he says seems so... off. Same with the password. Some police officers fuck up the computer in the US version too. Garicier can't help and is saying that one would have to look into the suspect's mind to figure out the password. The part of how they figured out the actual password (insomania and later the correct pw being the cat's name) was not well thought and conveyed. The US version did better. But the SK version has to get adjusted to SK and I just guess a lot of viewers don't know Metallica Them and one of their LP/song was used as reference to get to know the password in the US version. Maybe that's why the SK writers hesitated to just make an exact copy of that scene. Sorry for spamming like this lol So, in conclusion, I think the main problem of the show is that they're trying to stretch a 40 minute episode into two 1 hour episodes. They not only have to stretch the plot and add new scenes for that, they have to adjust the original plot along the way to not confuse SK viewers who are obviously not US viewers, there will be e.g. cultual differences that the writers have to keep in mind. They don't seem to have well thought-out adjustments, though. Some of them don't add up or seem a bit strange. But a lot of the complaints you have about scenes and lines are actually just copied from the US version. And I think the show just needs time to show more of the characters and the team. Maybe we'll get better team dynamics as the show is progressing :)

So full disclosure, I honestly cannot remember if I’ve seen the first episode of the American version and I haven’t seen the second of this; from what you’ve mentioned I guess the second episode answers most of the questions and does a better job at explaining? I’ll probably watch later today and hopefully it’ll change my opinion of the drama. But thank you for the comparison! It doesn’t make me like it any better because now that I know they’re basically copying it down to a t, it still makes me wonder how they could so epically mess this up....

With regard to Ki Hyung, that’s what my sister and I thought, but for the life of us we couldn’t figure out what had triggered him; the tick tacking wasn’t really obvious. It would have been far better had they done what you suggested; both in terms of clarity and, well...dramatic effect.

Again, can barely remember the first episode, but like I could justify Garcia getting less air-time in the American because we knew it’d be a seasonal drama so her introduction to the plot could take it’s time, but this is only 20 episodes >_>... I guess in trying to reproduce the original, the writers seem to be forgetting about the constraints placed on them for their version...

The lines...were not translated wrongly to my belief, Min Young probably said it was like her younger cousin’s room, but I mean she’s not young herself, so just saying it was a dongsaeng doesn’t really impart much information. That scene should have been done way better if that’s what they were trying to get at; I mean I noticed the little figurines that he had on the shelf in front of his computer, but like, I have a shelf full of stuffed animals and figurines so that doesn’t really signify much. I wish now that they’d done a pano of the room before showing the unsub on his computer; that would have helped to show the childishness of his room I suppose because I actually didn’t see anything in that room that would prompt such a remark.

And omg by no means am I saying you can’t analyze someone from a chess board, baduk board, etc., because your technique and your maneuvers that you employ in any strategic game can really give insight about you as a character. It just struck me as odd after the kinda very stupid (delivery wise) remark that Lee Han had made before. The portrayal of Lee Han really is very lacking; the actor is far too stiff (it’s so obvious he’s trying to maintain that aloofness of Reid, but in that trying too hard manner) and his delivery of his lines leaves much to be desired.

With the password, oh my god I can’t even begin to talk about the stupidity they portray in American crime shows sometime; the CSI messing up I would understand, Min Young on the other hand telling them to go ahead with the sticky note password I can’t...as a profiler, it should have alerted her that something was fishy about that and that, well, the unsub, up till this point, is far too sophisticated for it to be that simple. Again, need to see the second episode and I definitely knew it was a lead in for some “profiling” action, it was just too sloppy for me to be understanding about it though...

Also, I see a lot of people trying to forgive the faults of this drama by saying it needs to adapt to Korean culture, but up to this point I honestly don’t see what adapting needs to be done. With regards to culture, I feel that would come into play more when talking about dynamics, within the team and within unsubs (for example, it makes perfect sense that the bomb squad pressed pass because the uniformed guy seemed to be the higher up), and in terms of motives and symbolism. Also, like you mentioned, pop culture, so adapting pop culture references in the American to references Koreans will understand; but overall, I didn’t see any disjoint between what Korean culture is and what was depicted. 

I kind of also wish they would follow the one episode one crime format because a lot of the cases in the original as well don’t have the level of complexity and suspense required for a two-part story-line; this case especially, I think I’d have had a better impression had they just solved it within the hour. 

 I liked the addition of Ki Hyung’s family, the introduction to that serial killer who went off the grid, but I feel like they didn’t have an effective introduction to these plot points. Each were, what, max 2/3 minutes? If they’d wanted to stretch it into 2 episodes this first case, I feel they could have definitely spent more time to develop these arcs a bit better; especially with the serial killer because the details of his case were too brief, obviously they’ll explain more in the future, but the suspense for his re-introduction could have definitely been amplified a bit more. 

That was a long reply, but honestly thank you for the explanation! Makes me actually want to continue rather than grudgingly doing so and I hope, hope, hope it becomes better! I just hope they fix their chronological issues and plot lines to make it less confusing; the jumping around and mismatch in the first episode was really overwhelming and I could feel my mind breaking down trying to figure out correlations and connections to what they were saying/showing on screen.Sometimes dramas get off to a slow/iffy start and I guess Criminal Minds, unfortunately, falls into that category. 

Seriously though, thank you, cleared up so much...

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