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Watching Yentl with my mom as an adult was such a funny experience. Like, I have no idea if the creators intended to make such a queer movie, but by Morrigan, they did. Mom and I had watched it when I was a child, and a lot flew over my head, but as an adult? Damn.
I started giggling when Avigdor and Anshel were doing their academic flirting thing. "What?" Mom asked. I pointed at the TV. "You realize they're flirting, right?" "They're not. They're friends," Mom argued. I laughed. "Uh-huh."
Then there was the tickling. And The Lake Scene. "Okay, I see it now," Mom said with a frown. I downright cackled. "Anshel and Avigdor sitting in a tree…" Mom rolled her eyes. "More like in the grass."
I squealed. "Yentl totally has a crush on Hadass now, too! The way she's looking at Hadass. Priceless." Mom huffed. "Hadass is gorgeous. Yentl is just… acknowledging Hadass' beauty." I was giggling non-stop. "Yeah, right. Is that what they called it in the 80s?" Mom shrugged and smiled. "Probably."
I was about to burst at this point Mom blinked at the screen. "They fell in love with each other." "They totally fell in love with each other! And you know what? If I'd been Yentl, I would have stayed with Hadass." "There were a couple of things Hadass would have noticed the next time she tried to debauch Yentl." "Was that a Mulan reference?" Mom smirked. "Yes. It fits." I laughed. "It so fits. And, eh, I bet Hadass would have eventually not minded Anshel-Yentl was her wife and not her husband." Mom hummed. "I'm not so sure." "Everybody's bisexual here, Mom. EVERYBODY." "What about when Hadass never got pregnant?" Mom asked. "People would have asked questions. Their community was too nosy." I shrugged. "Yentl could have said either of them was infertile." "Hmm."
"Bullshit!" I yelled. "Buuullshit. You were totally into the cute Twink, Avigdor. Own it!" "What's a twink?" Mom asked. "A pretty gay man." "Ah. But no. You're wrong. Avigdor could sense Yentl's femininity," Mom deadpanned. "With his sixth sense." "… You're kidding right?" "No. Avigdor has a sixth sense for this stuff, I tell you," she said, serious as can be. (She's eerily good at that.) "You are kidding, right?" I asked. Mom huffed and rolled her eyes. "Yes, I am. He was gay for Anshel-Yentl." I nodded. "Just like Shang was gay for Ping." Mom nodded. "Yep."
"You know what?" I said when the movie was over. "I changed my mind. They should have all stayed together and been a throuple. Anshel-Yentl could have easily explained their friend Avigdor coming to visit all the time. They were all in love with each other. It makes perfect sense." Mom scoffed. "Pervert." "I'm right, though. They could have moved to America together." Mom thought about it. "But Yentl wanted freedom. She wouldn't have gotten that tied to Avigdor." "Good point. Though, the way I see it, Yentl would have been the throuple leader. She's got bigger metaphorical balls than Avigdor could ever dream of having." Mom shrugged. "Alright. True." "I can't believe you didn't notice how queer this movie was when you first saw it," I said, shaking my head. "Neither did you." "I was seven. What's your excuse?" "I was in church and was taught everything gay was evil. And I just didn't notice." "It is pretty subtle," I conceded. "Maybe the ones who made the movie didn't intend it to be so queer. Or they knew how oblivious the straights are." "Or maybe Avigdor has a sixth sense that allows him to discover women in disguise," Mom said sarcastically. I snorted. "Yeah. It's called a nose. I bet Anshel smelled better than any other guy." "Like Mulan." "Yep. Or maybe Avigdor was bi as hell." Mom sighed with mock wistfulness. "I guess we'll never know." "Never."
BONUS:
Me: OMG there's only one bed. Mom: And Yentl is falling off of it. Me: 🤣
#yentl#barbra streisand#mandy patinkin#queer movies#lgbtqia characters#movie night#yentl was bi#hadass was bi#avigdor was bi as hell#you can't change my mind#watching movies with my ma#queer undertones and overtones and all the tones#this movie is so good#and so gay#mulan 1998#mulan x shang#ping x shang#bisexual characters
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so bisexual of me to wonder if he meant Mulan as Ping or Li Shang 😭🤣
he picked the prince from mulan
#romeo and juliet#kit connor#so real#mulan#disney’s mulan#fa mulan#mulan (1998)#mulan 1998#li shang#li shang x ping#ping x li shang#bisexuals#bi#bi bi bi#bi stuff#bi things#bisexuality#mood#mulan x shang#shang x mulan#shang x ping#ping x shang#li shang bisexual#bi shang#shang is bi#bi li shang#bisexual shang#bisexual li shang#i made entire post about this#bisexuality and mulan
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I keep rewatching Mulan and the scene where Mulan is found out gets more and more funny the more times I watch it, my boy was disappointed to his CORE that Ping was a woman
#mulan 1998#fa mulan#mulan#disney#disney movies#ping#general shang#mulan x shang#li shang#general li shang
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LI SHANG from MULAN-(1998/2020)BISEXUAL (long post-important(to me!)!)
-Li Shang having bi feelings for Ping for over 6 and a half minutes straight 🩷💜💙 :https://youtu.be/SIKkdN23CKA
https://yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere.tumblr.com/post/746941244472786944/so-alright-here-are-the-moviesmedia-that-make
insider article LINK:
https://www.insider.com/disney-lgbtq-representation-mulan-remake-li-shang-2020-9
https://twitter.com/ThisIsGSage23/status/1654519300399456256?s=20
https://twitter.com/ThisIsGSage23/status/1770083032667472285
bi ig highlight : https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18280848235083086/
also i recommend this podcast ‘A Little Queer Podcast’ by two incredible bisexual people Capri Campeau and Ashley Whitfield. episode linked here, ‘Debunking Bisexual Myths and Stereotypes’ :https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wcP8HBIY0IyVxROjpZPNg?si=TIHDv-eFQi-mdsCS6zKzNA (all covered here for real!) +also check ‘A Bit Fruity Podcast’ by Matt Bernstein (very educating one!!)
https://www.tumblr.com/yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere/754829814197796864?source=share
https://twitter.com/GeauxSeeTheLady/status/1769793417268093173
https://twitter.com/ThisIsGSage23/status/1654436342502244353?s=20
EDIT: https://twitter.com/notjonathankha/status/1302140198264819712?s=20
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edit that i REALLY love Mulan-Ping&Shang-What Kind Of Man
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AND ANOTHER EDIT I LOVE Mulan-&Shang-Heart Attack
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https://twitter.com/ThisIsGSage23/status/1654508809325359105?s=20
AND ONE MORE EDIT:
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ALSO THE BANGER scene: I’ll make a man out of you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVcLIfSC4OE
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6vdBgNpWvIwjCLD2JrJwxj?si=20352d89048241b3
we need more bisexuality done right in media!!
https://yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere.tumblr.com/post/746941244472786944/so-alright-here-are-the-moviesmedia-that-make
BOOKS TO LEARN MORE ABOUT BISEXUAL HISTORY & ACTIVISM: https://www.tumblr.com/ruimtetijd/686000390089621504/list-of-books-about-bi-history-and-activism-from &https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/139102124?shelf=bi-bisexual-characters-done-well
THIS song (bi bi bi THIS IS OUR SONG!!) by Sub-Radio (the lead vocalist Adam Bradley is bisexual♥) :https://www.tumblr.com/yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere/765512527066087424?source=share &https://www.tumblr.com/yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere/765512891127480320?source=share + THIS BAND SINGING THE BLACK PARADE but make it ever more queer pride parade♥ :https://www.tumblr.com/yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere/765565710891155456?source=share &https://www.tumblr.com/yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere/765565917201612800?source=share (you’re scaring Ron you’re scaring Rooonn) + an awakening with HSM(?) :https://www.tumblr.com/yourartmatters-itswhatgotmehere/765565797378719744/mndvx-subradioband-happy-pride-yal-anyone?source=share
.https://anythingthatmovesarchive.carrd.co/ &https://anythingthatmovesarchive.carrd.co/#scans &https://anythingthatmovesarchive.carrd.co/#about
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#li shang#shang#bi li shang#shang is bi#bi#bisexual#queer#lgbtq#mulan#mulan 1998#mulan 2020#shulan#mulan x shang#mulan x li shang#shang x mulan#shang x ping#li shang x mulan#li shang x ping#mulan and shang#shang and mulan#bi representation#bisexual disney#bd wong#bi bi bi#bi tag#bisexuality#bi people#chaotic bisexual#bisexuals#anything that moves
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real hotgirl shit is reading Trans!Mulan(Ping) x Li Shang slowburn fics from 2009 at 2:27am on a wednesday
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getting worried bc my mind was already pretty crowded with the permanent aot & atla brainrot so adding jjk brainrot was already pushing it plus a lil chainsaw man brainrot too but now I've gotta make room for even more brainrot bc I just finished blue eye samurai & holy crap
#blue eye samurai#im getting real mulan/ping x shang li vibes from mizu & taigen & i REALLY hope im right about that#especially now that akemi has a different husband who is actually cool & not The Worst™#mizu x taigen#i can feel myself falling into hardcore shipping yall this is bad
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To feel a SINGLE punch from your opponent and say… “nah, you gotta be a man” .. is mad funny to me. I’m sorry
#victor victoria#king marchand#count victor grazinski#lgbtq#gay#bisexual#drag queen#drag king#disguise#crossdressing#king x victor#li shang x fa ping#mulan 1998#toxic masculinity#overcompensating#compulsive heteronormativity#compulsive heterosexuality#tw homophobia#if you were a man I'd knock your block off#then prove you're a man#I'm so sorry!#so am i!#victor victoria 1982
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Congrats on 700 followers :D
🌊 + Li Shang + trust
Thank you dear!
Show how much you trust me
Pairing: Li Shang x Fem reader
Description: After saving Shang from Shan yu show him your secret to see if he still trusts you
You fought a group of huns with your friend Mulan who had been your friend for years, joining her in the army for honor but to also be who you are even with the risks involved with what the two of you were doing. You happen to turn when you see Shan Yu behind your general and friend Li Shang fighting 3 other huns on his own, not seeing shan behind him ready to take him out but you were going to make sure that wouldn't happen to anyone let alone someone you cared about if you had any say in it. You run jumping and tackling shan yu managing to get good hits even cutting his shoulder, rolling and moving quickly in between the hits with your sword before you got hit and thrown a few feet away from him hitting your back on a rock slowly leaning up seeing Chien Po and ling running to where you were, fearing that you and shang had gotten hurt instead you all see shang and mulan disguised as her alias Ping fighting while the boys ran to you after seeing you across from them leaned on the rock you hit. You groan in pain as chien po lifts you and puts you on his shoulder running to hide from the avalanche with shang and mulan behind you looking at them until you couldn't see them running to find them, getting caught in the avalanche finding mulan's horse Khan not to far getting on him looking for your friends seeing nothing but snow until you looked behind you and see a red cape. You immediately get and grab him looking until you hear a gasp seeing mulan nearby "Mulan! Over here!" she gets on in front of you as you see the edge of the cliff going over until you stopped mid air seeing the rope on khan smiling in relief as you guys are helped until as you and shang step on the ground the rocks below you collapse screaming as you fall grabbing hold of a steep part of the cliff holding on to shang hearing everyone yelling. Soon you see the rope next to you after climbing up on an edge putting shang over your shoulders and grabbing the rope as everyone gets you up and away from the cliff "Step away they need air" you look at each other as you catch your breath "You are two of the craziest men I ever met...and for that I owe you both my life from now on both of you have my trust" you smile as everyone cheers until you heard mulan yell in pain seeing the wound and immediately knowing that the secret you both had kept was gonna be exposed. You grab her and run in the medic tent, carefully treating her wound shaking as you try to sew the wound up until shang grabs your arm doing it as you notice one just above your chest "Do you still trust me?" You take your armor off closing your eyes until you hear a sword and feel something warm under your chin opening your eyes to see his fingers holding your chin with his sword in the corner. He patches you up thanking him as you hold your armor "You're my friend and you saved my life my debt is repaid and I trust you" you smile putting your armor on telling everyone of mulan's condition relieved she recovered going to celebrate victory until the huns came and took the emperor fighting shan yu with shang deciding to give shang an up throwing both your shoes at shan yu "I was the one you threw at the rock". You pull your hair back and with your helmet on as he realizes "Show how much you trust me" you say running as he follows you fighting him giving shang time to get him stuck as the fireworks hit him both of you holding lanterns until you both jumped landing on mulan who was looking for the both of you smiling and hugging each other as you join the boys and end up being rewarded for saving China by the emperor going back home to your family who heard the news being proud of you. You were holding your baby sister when you heard your brother say someone was here for you turning to see shang smiling big hugging and inviting him for dinner and soon after the two of you began dating and joining him on his adventures with your friends and mulan after getting engaged.
#li shang#disney x reader#700 followers celebration#follower celebration#disney#li shang x reader#judgementdaysunshine's 700 followers celebration
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Be so kind as to give me Liopo(Lion Kfp aka me x Po)hcs?
Ooooh
Po is le master chef for Lion
And Lion introduces him to pastel things
Mister Ping and Li Shang (Po's birth dad) LOOOVE Lio
Po also teaches Lion kung fu
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a o e i i er ai ei ao ou an en ang eng ong i ia iao ie iu ian in iang ing iong u ua uo uai ui uan un uang ueng ü üe üan ün a o e er ai ao ou an en ang eng yi ya yao ye you yan yin yang ying yong wu wa wo wai wei wan wen wang weng yu yue yuan yun b ba bo bai bei bao ban ben bang beng bi biao bie bian bin bing bu p pa po pai pei pao pou pan pen pang peng pi piao pie pian pin ping pu m ma mo me mai mei mao mou man men mang meng mi miao mie miu mian min ming mu f fa fo fei fou fan fen fang feng fu d da de dai dei dao dou dan den dang deng dong di diao die diu dian ding du duo dui duan dun t ta te tai tei tao tou tan tang teng tong ti tiao tie tian ting tu tuo tui tuan tun n na ne nai nei nao nou nan nen nang neng nong ni niao nie niu nian nin niang ning nu nuo nuan nü nüe l la le lai lei lao lou lan lang leng long li lia liao lie liu lian lin liang ling lu luo luan lun lü lüe g ga ge gai gei gao gou gan gen gang geng gong gu gua guo guai gui guan gun guang k ka ke kai kei kao kou kan ken kang keng kong ku kua kuo kuai kui kuan kun kuang h ha he hai hei hao hou han hen hang heng hong hu hua huo huai hui huan hun huang z za ze zi zai zei zao zou zan zen zang zeng zong zu zuo zui zuan zun c ca ce ci cai cao cou can cen cang ceng cong cu cuo cui cuan cun s sa se si sai sao sou san sen sang seng song su suo sui suan sun zh zha zhe zhi zhai zhei zhao zhou zhan zhen zhang zheng zhong zhu zhua zhuo zhuai zhui zhuan zhun zhuang ch cha che chi chai chao chou chan chen chang cheng chong chu chua chuo chuai chui chuan chun chuang sh sha she shi shai shei shao shou shan shen shang sheng shu shua shuo shuai shui shuan shun shuang r re ri rao rou ran ren rang reng rong ru rua ruo rui ruan run j ji jia jiao jie jiu jian jin jiang jing jiong ju jue juan jun q qi qia qiao qie qiu qian qin qiang qing qiong qu que quan qun x xi xia xiao xie xiu xian xin xiang xing xiong xu xue xuan xun
NAKU 🫵
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Ji ji fu ji ji
a o e i i er ai ei ao ou an en ang eng ong i ia iao ie iu ian in iang ing iong u ua uo uai ui uan un uang ueng ü üe üan ün a o e er ai ao ou an en ang eng yi ya yao ye you yan yin yang ying yong wu wa wo wai wei wan wen wang weng yu yue yuan yun b ba bo bai bei bao ban ben bang beng bi biao bie bian bin bing bu p pa po pai pei pao pou pan pen pang peng pi piao pie pian pin ping pu m ma mo me mai mei mao mou man men mang meng mi miao mie miu mian min ming mu f fa fo fei fou fan fen fang feng fu d da de dai dei dao dou dan den dang deng dong di diao die diu dian ding du duo dui duan dun t ta te tai tei tao tou tan tang teng tong ti tiao tie tian ting tu tuo tui tuan tun n na ne nai nei nao nou nan nen nang neng nong ni niao nie niu nian nin niang ning nu nuo nuan nü nüe l la le lai lei lao lou lan lang leng long li lia liao lie liu lian lin liang ling lu luo luan lun lü lüe g ga ge gai gei gao gou gan gen gang geng gong gu gua guo guai gui guan gun guang k ka ke kai kei kao kou kan ken kang keng kong ku kua kuo kuai kui kuan kun kuang h ha he hai hei hao hou han hen hang heng hong hu hua huo huai hui huan hun huang z za ze zi zai zei zao zou zan zen zang zeng zong zu zuo zui zuan zun c ca ce ci cai cao cou can cen cang ceng cong cu cuo cui cuan cun s sa se si sai sao sou san sen sang seng song su suo sui suan sun zh zha zhe zhi zhai zhei zhao zhou zhan zhen zhang zheng zhong zhu zhua zhuo zhuai zhui zhuan zhun zhuang ch cha che chi chai chao chou chan chen chang cheng chong chu chua chuo chuai chui chuan chun chuang sh sha she shi shai shei shao shou shan shen shang sheng shu shua shuo shuai shui shuan shun shuang r re ri rao rou ran ren rang reng rong ru rua ruo rui ruan run j ji jia jiao jie jiu jian jin jiang jing jiong ju jue juan jun q qi qia qiao qie qiu qian qin qiang qing qiong qu que quan qun x xi xia xiao xie xiu xian xin xiang xing xiong xu xue xuan xun
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@a-smutty-shade-of-purple
Tumblr introduced me to the idea of bisexual Shang and I fell hard <3
#mulan is one of my fav animated films#mulan#disney#mulan x shang#ping x shang#shang x mulan#li shang#my fanart
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ok yall I don’t know why you wanna see that bootlicker mulan live action remake when you got a gourmet fucking feast waiting for you out there
it’s called “reflection: a twisted tale” and it’s an alternate take to disney’s mulan
i just got through it in two hours and the basic premise is when mulan makes the avalanche and shan yu swings his sword at her,,,,, it’s shang who gets hurt due toi him jumping in front of the blade. mulan is never injured and therefore her true identity hasnt been revealed (yet) and the all of the huns are dead
mulan, as ping, feels guilty for it and takes care of him while hes bleeding out and realizes hes dying so she has to go to the underworld to save his life
this book has everything i loved from the movie and gives me more
shang/ping and shang/mulan feels
whump (blood, injury, crying, emotional and physical hurt/comfort, rescuing each other, worried shang, protective mulan and shang)
bisexual shang PEAK BISEXUAL SHANG
mulan being very gay and trans
HELLA COOL SWORD FIGHTING SCENES AGAINST DEMONS
so much of the content is shang/ping and shang/mulan im not kidding it’s a lot of scenes of them alone and being dorks or FLIRTY
lots of canon references
new characters!!!! more family guardians!!! more about mulan’s family!! more about shang’s childhood and his family!!! his hopes and dreams!!! more about how mulan feels as a man or a woman or both!!!!!
shang LITERALLY literally tells her DOESNT CARE if mulan is A MAN OR A WOMAN he still wants her regardless
PEAK BISEXUAL SHANG
HE BLUSHES AROUND PING AND MULAN AND GETS SHY
acknowledgment of Mutual Pining™
(ive been sobbing for over an hour dont look at me)
MUSHU IS GAY?????? LOWKEY??????????
mushu also says mulan should kiss shang better as ping when shang has a fever and insists “it works in all of the folklore”
to which mulan flushes and goes “NO!!!!”
GENERAL LI AND MULAN!!!!!!! MEETING!!!! TALKING!!!!
shang endlessly praising mulan oh my god my heart
THE REVEAL OF MULAN’S TRUE IDENTITY!!!!!! THE DRAMA OF IT ALL OH MY GOD IT HURTS SO GOOD
overall this is a brilliant and in-depth exploration of mulans canon character and how she handles guilt and sorrow and betrayal and love and her journey so far i cant believe it’s so good
PEAK
BISEXUAL
SHANG
THIS IS ENDORSED BY DISNEY ITSELF HOLY SHIT
#mulan#reflection: a twisted tale#disney's mulan#fa mulan#li shang#mulan x shang#shang x ping#spoilers
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for the disney ships ask game you should draw shang + mulan dressed as ping (in honor of shang being erased from the live action mulan 😭😭😭)
they’re gossiping
send me a disney ship!
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So in the "Be a Man" training montage for Mulan we see Shang giving her one on one sparring lessons. He's also always keeping an eye on her during group activities. Then he tries to send her home so she doesn't get killed. I def think Shang is bi. But my question is: do we think he'd already fallen for Ping before Ping proved to be a good warrior? Or was he just worried about the scrawny kid?
#mulan#fa mulan#disney mulan#li shang#shang#mulan x shang#training montage#ping#fa ping#oh#wildhuman#am i what they call wild?
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A Guide to Taiwanese Name Romanization
Have you ever wondered why there are so many Changs when the surname 常 is not actually that common? Have you ever struggled to figure out what sound “hs” is? Well don’t worry! Today we are going to go over some common practices in transliterating names from Taiwan.
With some recent discussion I’ve seen about writing names from the Shang-Chi movie, I thought this was the perfect time to publishe this post. Please note that this information has been compiled from my observations--I’m sure it’s not completely extensive. And if you see any errors, please let me know!
According to Wikipedia, “the romanized name for most locations, persons and other proper nouns in Taiwan is based on the Wade–Giles derived romanized form, for example Kaohsiung, the Matsu Islands and Chiang Ching-kuo.” Wade-Giles differs from pinyin quite a bit, and to make things even more complicated, transliterated names don’t necessarily follow exact Wade-Giles conventions.
Well, Wikipedia mentioned Kaohsiung, so let’s start with some large cities you already know of!
[1] B → P 台北 Taibei → Taipei [2] G → K [3] D → T In pinyin, we have the “b”, “g”, and “d” set (voiceless, unaspirated) and the “p”, “k”, and “t” set (voiceless, aspirated). But in Wade-Giles, these sets of sounds are distinguished by using a following apostrophe for the aspirated sounds. However, in real life the apostrophe is often not used.
We need some more conventions to understand Kaohsiung. [4] ong → ung (sometimes) [5] X → Hs or Sh 高雄 Gaoxiong → Kaohsiung I wrote “sometimes” for rule #4 because I am pretty sure I have seen instances where it is not followed. This could be due to personal preference, historical reasons, or influence from other romanization styles.
Now some names you are equipped to read: 王心凌 Wang Xinling → Wang Hsin-ling 徐熙娣 Xu Xidi → Shu/Hsu Hsi-ti (I have seen both) 黄鸿升 Huang Hongsheng → Huang Hung-sheng 龙应台 Long Yingtai → Lung Ying-tai 宋芸樺 Song Yunhua → Sung Yun-hua
You might have learned pinyin “x” along with its friends “j” and “q”, so let’s look at them more closely. [6] J → Ch [7] Q → Ch 范玮琪 Fan Weiqi → Fan Wei-chi 江美琪 Jiang Meiqi → Chiang Mei-chi 郭静 Guo Jing → Kuo Ching 邓丽君 Deng Lijun → Teng Li-chun This is similar to the case for the first few conventions, where an apostrophe would distinguish the unaspirated sound (pinyin “j”) from the aspirated sound (pinyin “q”). But in practice these ultimately both end up as “ch”. I have some disappointing news.
[8] Zh → Ch Once again, the “zh” sound is the unaspirated correspondent of the “ch” sound. That’s right, the pinyin “zh”, “j”, and “q” sounds all end up being written as “ch”. This can lead to some...confusion. 卓文萱 Zhuo Wenxuan → Chuo Wen-hsuan 陈绮贞 Chen Qizhen → Chen Chi-chen 张信哲 Zhang Xinzhe → Chang Shin-che At least now you finally know where there are so many Changs. Chances are, if you meet a Chang, their surname is actually 张, not 常.
Time for our next set of rules. [10] C → Ts [11] Z → Ts [12] Si → Szu [13] Ci, Zi → Tzu Again we have the situation where “c” is aspirated and “z” is unaspirated, so the sounds end up being written the same. 曾沛慈 Zeng Peici → Tseng Pei-tzu 侯佩岑 Hou Peicen → Hou Pei-tsen 周子瑜 Zhou Ziyu → Chou Tzu-yu 黄路梓茵 Huang Lu Ziyin → Huang Lu Tzu-yin 王思平 Wang Siping → Wang Szu-ping
Fortunately this next convention can help clear up some of the confusion from above. [14] i → ih (zhi, chi, shi) [15] e → eh (-ie, ye, -ue, yue) Sometimes an “h” will be added at the end. So this could help distinguish some sounds. Like you have qi → chi vs. zhi → chih. There could be other instances of adding “h”--these are just the ones I was able to identify. 曾之乔 Zeng Zhiqiao → Tseng Chih-chiao 施柏宇 Shi Boyu → Shih Po-yu 谢金燕 Xie Jinyan → Hsieh Jin-yan 叶舒华 Ye Shuhua → Yeh Shu-hua 吕雪凤 Lü Xuefeng → Lü Hsueh-feng
Continuing on, a lot of the conventions below are not as consistently used in my experience, so keep that in mind. Nevertheless, it is useful to be familiar with these conventions when you do encounter them.
[16] R → J (sometimes) Seeing “j” instead of “r” definitely confused me at first. Sometimes names will still use “r” though, so I guess it is up to one’s personal preferences. 任贤齐 Ren Xianqi → Jen Hsien-chi 任家萱 Ren Jiaxuan → Jen Chia-hsüan 张轩睿 Zhang Xuanrui → Chang Hsuan-jui
[17] e → o (ke, he, ge) I can see how it would easily lead to confusion between ke-kou, ge-gou, and he-hou, so it’s important to know. I’ve never seen this convention for pinyin syllables like “te” or “se” personally. 柯震东 Ke Zhendong → Ko Chen-tung 葛仲珊 Ge Zhongshan→ Ko Chung-shan
[18] ian → ien [19] Yan → Yen I’ve observed that rule 18 seems more common than 19 because I see “yan” used instead of “yen” a fair amount. I’m not really sure why this is. 柯佳嬿 Ke Jiayan → Ko Chia-yen 田馥甄 Tian Fuzhen → Tien Fu-chen 陈建州 Chen Jianzhou → Chen Chien-chou 吴宗宪 Wu Zongxian → Wu Tsung-hsien
[20] Yi → I (sometimes) I have seen this convention not followed pretty frequently, but two very famous names are often in line with it. 蔡英文 Cai Yingwen → Tsai Ing-wen 蔡依林 Cai Yilin → Tsai I-lin
[21] ui → uei I have seen this convention used a couple times, but “ui” seems to be much more common. 蔡立慧 Cai Lihui → Tsai Li-huei
[22] hua → hwa This is yet another convention that I don’t always see followed. But I know “hwa” is often used for 华 as in 中华, so it’s important to know. 霍建华 Huo Jianhua → Huo Chien-hwa
[23] uo → o This is another example of where one might get confused between the syllables luo vs. lou or ruo vs. rou. So be careful! 罗志祥 Luo Zhixiang → Lo Chih-hsiang 刘若英 Liu Ruoying → Liu Jo-ying 徐若瑄 Xu Ruoxuan → Hsu Jo-hsuan
[24] eng → ong (feng, meng) I think this rule is kinda cute because some people with Taiwanese accents pronounce meng and feng more like mong and fong :) 权怡凤 Quan Yifeng → Quan Yi-fong
[25] Qing → Tsing I am not familiar with the reasoning behind this spelling, but 国立清华大学 in English is National Tsing Hua University, so this spelling definitely has precedence. But I also see Ching too for this syllable. 吴青峰 Wu Qingfeng→ Wu Tsing-fong
[26] Li → Lee Nowadays a Chinese person from the Mainland would probably using the Li spelling, but in other areas, Lee remains more common. 李千那 Li Qianna → Lee Chien-na
[27] Qi → Chyi I have noticed this exception. However, I’ve only personally noticed it for this surname, so maybe it’s just a convention for 齐. 齐秦 Qi Qin → Chyi Chin 齐豫 Qi Yu → Chyi Yu
[28] in ←→ ing In Taiwanese Mandarin, these sounds can be merged, so sometimes I have noticed ling and lin, ping and pin, etc. being used in place of each other. I don’t know this for sure, but I suspect this is why singer A-Lin is not A-Ling (her Chinese name is 黄丽玲/Huang Liling).
[29] you → yu I personally haven’t noticed these with other syllables ending in “ou,” only with the “you” syllable. 刘冠佑 Liu Guanyou → Liu Kuan-yu 曹佑宁 Cao Youning → Tsao Yu-ning
There is a lot of variation with these transliterated names. There are generally exceptions galore, so keep in mind that all this is general! Everyone has their own personal preferences. If you just look up some famous Taiwanese politicians, you will see a million spellings that don’t fit the 28 conventions above. Sometimes people might even mix Mandarin and another Chinese language while transliterating their name.
Anyway, if any of you know why 李安 is romanized as Ang Lee, please let me know because it’s driving me crazy.
Note: The romanized names I looked while writing this post at were split between two formats, capitalizing the syllable after the hyphen and not capitalizing this syllable. I chose to not capitalize for all the names for the sake of consistency. I’m guessing it’s a matter of preference.
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