#picard 3x08

[isagrimorie]

The interesting thing I find this moment:

Seven: “Don’t give me that look. I won’t apologize."

Shaw: “You should have blown the turbolift."

Seven: “But I didn’t. And I’d make the same decision again. I draw the line at trading lives.”

Is that… irony of ironies is that Newly!Human!Seven would have agreed with Shaw.

Young!Seven would have blown the turbolift with Shaw and his walking survivor’s guilt. In fact, I guarantee the cold calculation was in Seven’s head but she didn’t follow through on it.

But also, knowing that newly Human!Seven would have agreed with Shaw would actually piss Shaw off more.

Later seasons and current era!Seven? She won’t trade lives. Because that’s not what she was taught, because her mentor was Kathryn ‘Leave No One Behind’ Janeway. Janeway would rather change a whole timeline than let that happen.

Shaw: “You are a Starfleet Officer. You don’t have the luxury to only make choices that are hunky-dory. Everything has consequences.”

Seven: “Consequences like saving your life?”

I’m also curious in this shift of mentality if this ‘good of the many’ thing Shaw side, aside from his clear survivor’s guilt, is a mental divide between a post-Dominion War Starfleet and Janeway’s pre-Dominion War Starfleet upbringing*.

Although honestly, I don’t think it would solve the Changeling intrusion either way because its clear the other Changeling groups arrived from the other turbolift in the conference room.

(Why was there one there, we don’t know.)

They would still have taken the Bridge and all they would get is a dead captain and a dead Vadic. Although, I don’t know how an explosion would affect Vadic since Vadic was in liquid form at that time and could have made an escape, and the Changelings would still have taken the bridge.

*Although, good gravy, can Seven get a break please from having Captains who are so READY to martyr their lives away? First Janeway and now Walking Survivor’s Guilt!Shaw???

I guess its a good thing she’s the Captain now.

But now its Raffi’s turn to dissuade Seven from walking into dangerous situations.

[ryder616]

Sooo, nobody likes Château Picard, do they? 😂😂😂

[evviejo]

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STAR TREK: PICARD - Recensione 3x08 “Surrender”

Nell'ottavo episodio della terza stagione di Star Trek: Picard, i nostri protagonisti sconfiggono la spietata Vadic, ma il vero problema è ancora là fuori...

RECENSIONE 3x08

[ashleywritesstuff]

"Never give up, never surrender!" Wait, wrong...not-Star Trek thing. Anyway, take a look at my review of Star Trek: Picard 3x08 "Surrender" on @fangirlish. 

[thelambismydrug]

I‘m so relieved to see that my beautiful boy is going to be better in the upcoming episode 😌

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Star Trek: Picard [3x08 "Surrender"]

Enhanced version from previous posts: here, here & here.

[ilikethequiet]

Todd Stashwick in Star Trek: Picard 3x08 - Surrender (Set 1)

[driftwoodthrone]

hope, in lieu of wine and roses (picard/crusher, post-surrender/3x08)

Respite for world-weary parents, or a cup of warm milk and a dash of nutmeg.

I just really needed them to talk again and for the world to hold its breath. Many thanks to @evebestt for beta and cheers!

[bevthespecial]

Not my X Files trauma being reactivated after watching Picard 3x08.

[aliasjanedoe]

Picard discussion/theory

SPOILERS through episode 3x08.  I don’t know anybody on tumblr, I’ve no idea where the Picard fandom is, but I’d really like somebody to talk with about the show.  So if you’re out there, please say hi.  Thanks.

Anyway, here’s my theory for what’s going on with Jack...

I think we’re dealing with the Borg again.  Let’s start at the beginning (of S3).

Picard’s log entry about the Borg is playing in the opening scene.  Foreshadowing??

Moving on in no particular order because I can’t remember which ep is which.

Shaw makes sure we all remember Wolf 359 and that PICARD WAS A BORG!

Jack talks with Seven about feeling alone and needing connection.

That voice Jack keeps hearing is kinda Borg Queen vibes.  “Come home... to the collective.”

Jack’s brain thing is happening much younger than Picard’s.  But what if Picard’s brain thing started later... like when he was a Borg!  Now the time frames match up.

Data says Picard’s brain thing was misdiagnosed.  And come on, we all know Jack’s is something else.

Data also said what they wanted Picard’s body for.  Something was in him.  Like Borg nanites.  Something he could have passed along to his son.

Seven is constantly there with her name and her implant by her eye, reminding us of Borg bits left behind and not completely removed.  And do she and Picard feel entirely human again after what happened?  Nope.  (Their discussion in S1 came to mind.) 

The big bad says it’s fitting Seven’s there when she reveals what Jack really is.  Because BORG!

Does he feel guilty for what he is?  He’s hearing voices.  So many voices.  The collective.

Troi also says there’s an ancient voice inside him that isn’t his own.

Why would the Changelings be working with the Borg?  Like Lore said, the enemy of my enemy...

Why can Jack take people over?  It’s a hive thing.  But they’re human.  Well, I’m sure they’ll explain it later.

Jack’s red eyes.  Honestly don’t make a ton of sense either.  But remember every time Locutus looked at the camera and that red laser glare happened next to his eye?  Yeah.

Why is everything fucking red?!  I don’t know!  Because red is a very strong color cinematically??  Also, goddammit, Terry!!

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Picard 3x08 - "Surrender" Review

We're nearing the end, maman. Vadic has control of the Titan, and the Rikers are holed up on The Shrike... What will happen? How will it play out? Thoughts about this episode and theories about the future abound as we struggle to piece together this Next Gen mystery!

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[ryder616]

It's really going to be the Borg again, isn't it?

It's "appropriate" that Seven is the one staying on the Bridge?

It's "useless to resist"?

If it's not the Borg, they are certainly trying to make us think it's them.

[torley]

(1) 'Family Reunion' SPOILERS - Star Trek: Picard 3x08 "Surrender" - YouTube Consumer Culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfPsl3xrTg

[allofmystudentsrunaway]

Picard 3x08 spoiler free reaction

ouch, ouch, ouch.....my baby.

[coolmoviemanmike]

I just watched Star Trek: Picard 3x08 "Surrender"