#perhaps if we didnt like Stories Where Characters Die the favorite characters would not die
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red-dyed-sarumane · 5 months ago
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at this rate im going to play kamicity ensemble & theyre going to kill rime off cant have shit in detroit type of feeling
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hearts401 · 1 year ago
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YIPPEE!!!
Basically, starting with nightmare fredbear
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now, the mouth is obvious. but the stomach is what im interested in.
Its widely accepted that what happened to evan was a springlock failure of fredbears jaw. so lets think about why there might be a similar mouth on his torso? perhaps because of a similar event.
and its not suuuper accurate but in tse william has zero scars on his head and most of them are centered around his torso. not saying the head CANT springlock you, but perhaps its the first thing one might work to prevent when springlocks go off. like idk maybe someone pulled the head off before those springlocks could go off
also, the thing that scares evan IS fredbear. while i get the theory that he saw liz die, i doubt his fear would revolve around fredbear in that case. especially since he seems to love the characters, especially fredbear, i doubt hed have such a violent fear of fredbear specifically in that case (unless you tie it into how cbby was liz's favorite, and evan doesnt wanna get killed by HIS favorite, yk?)
also he freaks out when he sees a worker in the suit, and we see will putting a springlock suit on another guy, so we KNOW other people wore the suits
also when u recieve the message that says "dont you remember what you saw?" its wehn you go towards the stage, where someone might perform.
another thing is i think springlock failures are something william would sweep under the rug. traumatic events can be hard to recall, hence evan having these nightmares. william convinces him what he saw was not what it was, takes advantage of the walkie talkie and evans nightmares to further his lie before,
also AJ just told me in my asks the "what is seen can easily be mistaken in the eyes of a child" line from fnaf world which is probably evidence that he saw someone simply get into the suit and honestly im starting tot hink thats canon but ill be fucknig damned if i stop here.
it could very easily be something william told him. "no, you didnt see him die," or whatever. (i dont know if thatd make any sense but im jsut conflicted on fnaf world in general because it has so many themes of fredbear who is william but also. it doesnt always FEEL like william. i have ideas but now is not the time for fnaf world rambles and id need to know all the lore first. and idc if its not canon i make my own canon)
also it explains why michael has similar nightmares! springlock failure brothers!!!!!
finally, it brings the story full circle. he sees someone die to these suits, he tries to get people to listen that theyre dangerous, nobody does, and he dies
SYMMETRY, MY FRIEND!
Anyways thats that meow im still charliefirst for no fucking reason LMAO
does anyone wanna hear me be insane and explain all my reasons why i think cc saw a springlock failure. im waving my arms
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mavspeed · 4 years ago
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First Line Meme
Rules: List the first lines of your last 20 stories (if you have less than 20, just list them all). See if there are any patterns. Choose your favorite opening line, then tag 10 of your favorite authors!
Hey @applesfallingfromblondehair, thanks for the tag love!! likewise i dont usually do this but this feels interesting so lets see if my ass has improved over the last few stories lmfkjgjk
also this will prob be a mix of xmcu fic + kingsman fic bc i think i have a more or less equal number of fics written for both
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The first time Charles meets Lucifer Morningstar, actual devil from hell, ruler of the underworld, fallen son of the lord above and god knows what else, it had been after Erik had been sentenced to life imprisonment in the highest security cell in the Pentagon. 
- this is from a professor and a devil walk into a bar, which is kinda a crossover rarepair fic that rose out of me and mutuals on twitter discussing tom ellis and james mcavoy being roommates and kinda... devolved from there. i am proud of this one lmfnjgkj
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“Are you okay, Professor?” Hank asks quietly.
Charles blinks. He supposes it’s a valid question. He’s been in a bit of a funk the past few days- scratch that actually, the past few years. He’s just lost so much- his father, and then his mother’s love, and then Raven and Erik and Sean and countless others. Building a school, gaining students he loved to teach and nurture hadn’t helped him in the slightest, and he’s as lost as he ever was, wandering the halls of a drafty mansion alone, feeling like he’s been stranded at sea even whilst surrounded by people.
- from in the belly of the beast, which again came out of me wondering what would have happened if fox had gone w their original plan and charles had been that last horseman instead of erik. this story will prob gain a sequel... sometime in the near future when im not too bogged down by current wips
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The Xavier family hall of the deceased- because of course they’re weird enough to have a cemetery- is full of rows upon rows of holograms. Charles is four and gets bored of his father crying over his mother’s hologram, so he toddles over to the other rows. Unfamiliar names, all of them- Charles is young, and he doesn’t understand death. He doesn’t even know who his mother is, who’d died at childbirth and left him with a father still at a loss when it came to bringing up a kid.
- from tequila on a spaceship, the sequel to a fic that still has some people angry at me i think. this fic never did gain as much traction as the first one but im still proud of it esp since it discusses certain themes of reincarnation that ive always wanted to see explored for myself in reincarnation aus (and i only ever saw it in danveresque’s reincarnation au)
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There are cork boards covering every inch of the wall. Red strings, photographs, conspiracy threads, everything. Raven takes it in, swallowing, noticing the picture in the middle.
It’s one of Charles, when he’d been in university. His final year- he'd just been done presenting his year- end project, his fringe a tumbled mess and a bright smile on his lips. Erik had taken the picture, Charles scurrying to his side once he’d been done and demanding to look at the image, his tongue poking out the corner of his mouth. He looks like how Raven had always imagined him to be.
“He wouldn’t want this,” she finally says, turning to look at Erik.
- from tequila on a beach, the first fic to the fic above. this fic is v special to me because i actually wrote this on a spiral after having a very tough visit with one of my parents in the hospital after a surgery for organ removal to prevent the onset of cancer. its simpler than my other fics yet i think more powerful because of what happens. also i think the first time i killed charles off lol (spoiler alert). also idk if ppl were aware of this but this is called tequila on a beach precisely bc charles and erik were tipsy from tequila at a frat party and then went to a beach. its the way they first met (and will continue to meet for all their next lives)
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Erik doesn’t know how it all started. Maybe it was when his insane sergeant had started rambling about imaginary cities, treasures of gold and cursed incantations. Maybe it was when trickles of rumours had started pouring down about the higher ups wanting to investigate unfound territory, disregard the Egyptian government’s feelings on the matter, and put a previously unfound myth on the map for all the world to see. Or maybe, Erik thinks, it was when archaeologist Klaus Schmidt put a bullet through his mother’s head and he ended up going to America armed with dual citizenship and the sole intent of wanting to drive a coin directly between Schmidt’s eyes, joining a division of the American military focused solely on guarding archaeological digs- more importantly, in Egypt, where Schmidt’s interest had shifted.
- from courting the end of the world, another one i’m just insanely proud of! this is the first time i’ve ever attempted a multichapter movie au and it actually managed to work pretty well, i at least haven’t run out of inspiration for it yet lmfjgjg. also erik as himbo rick connell... very rent free in my head
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The day after they murder Shaw and leave his house of horrors, Erik crosses the Canadian border with Charles across his back. Charles had started getting tired while they’d been walking, stumbling and nearly tripping until Erik had forced him to get on his back, ignoring Charles’ protests.
The blood’s seeping out steadily from Charles’ nose, staining his shirt and soaking it through. It’s been leaking on and off, and the effects are already obvious in the dark circles beneath Charles’ eyes. Any more, and Erik knows they’ll have to find him a doctor. He hopes the nearest town in Canada has one that would be willing to treat them.
- from a world built for two. i actually dk where the inspiration for this came from, i think i was once again on a depressive spiral and wanted to break my comfort characters into pieces and put them together again. this also deals with codependency and unhealthy coping mechanisms as a result of trauma which i showed as sweet in the fic but i would def not recommend in real life. pls if u relate to either charles or erik in this go see a therapist
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The call comes in the afternoon, an hour before Charles is supposed to teach his Intro to Genetics class. Frowning, Charles abandons the game of Candy Crush he’d admittedly been playing rather badly and picks it up. “Charles sp-”
“We need you, Prof,” Kitty says desperately into the phone. “He’s been in a temper all morning, and then Alex’s reports missed out a whole subsection, so he’s fired the entire marketing team! Please, Professor, you have to come immediately!”
- from and we can be pirates. i wrote this in like 4 seconds for my friend who wanted professor charles and ceo erik and actually did not expect this to gain the attention it did... its always the fics u write in like 4 seconds lmfjggj. a sequel for this Is coming too probably at some point in the very far future
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Charles Xavier can admit as he sits across from Essex, hands cuffed to the desk, that in hindsight, this had perhaps not been one of his better ideas.
He refuses to admit it as he controls Erik’s mind, preventing him from lashing out and making him close his eyes to the nightmare unfolding in front of him. He refuses to admit it as he gets shoved into the back of a black pickup truck, and the butt of a gun is smashed across his forehead hard enough to knock him out cold for a few hours. He refuses to admit it when he wakes up what appears to be hours later in a cold interrogation room, hands cuffed to the table in front of him, with a suppression collar rendering his mind dark and almost achingly silent.
- from from the land of gods (bring me home). i’ve been struggling w this fic a lot (it didnt come as easily to me as the first one did) but its getting there. also i put charles through hell in this rip sorry mister xavier
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In the aftermath, both of them stand at the border of the mansion. The air feels frigid, slicing into Raven’s lungs like a thousand paper cuts. “Charles, please,” she begs, heart in her throat and voice hoarse. “He wouldn’t want you to be like this. He wouldn’t want you to do this. It’s not too late, you can come back.”
Charles gazes back, a brick wall. He hasn’t even cleaned up, still in that damnable yellow and blue suit with blood drying in the corners of his mouth, the bridge of his nose. There’s nothing in his eyes- blank, almost see through. He looks as if he’s a mere shade, a ghost lounging about where he once was. Raven knows better.
“I will raze the world to the ground,” he finally says, his voice free of any inflection, “and when I’m done, no one will be left standing. Not you, and certainly not me.”
- from where all the poets went to die, a dark fic based on what would have happened if moira had killed erik with the bullets. its the first time ive written dark charles and it was v fun if im being honest
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Charles is a light sleeper. It’s a trait that stays with him- all the way from his father and the tests to taking care of his mother to Cain Marko and his fists to Cuba and then now, the dust of Washington settling over him and making the waking world lie an inch beyond his eyelids. It therefore stands to reason that the second the windowsill creaks he’s up in a shot, hoisting himself up and lashing out with his telepathy instantly.
That’s not a trait that had stayed with him. That’s a newly formed trait, bitter and bold, carved into existence by Cuba by his students disappearing one by one in Vietnam by the letters that announce Sean’s death in black unfriendly print by-
The tendrils of his telepathy forged cold and distant meet a barrier and recoil, stunned. He focuses his eyes and then widens them, staring at Erik who stares back, hidden beneath that infernal muddied magenta helmet of his. They stare at each other for a moment before Erik clears his throat.
- from in the valley of kings (you will come home). my first ever cherik fic! im actually also proud of this one even if i ended it horribly and half my mutuals refuse to read it bc of how it ended LMFJGJGJ. i cant believe this was supposed to be a funny and cute kid fic and then i turned it into an angst ridden mess. also leo is actually an oc whose adult version is fancasted as charlie rowe by me and another mutual on twitter and im v proud that readers are willing to die for the baby
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Mike has to google it, finding a crafts shop nestled into the corner of the street right smack in the middle of Louisiana, past a long and winding dirt road and the crumbling farmhouses relics of a time long past. The air is hot, humid, sticking to the back of his neck like an unwieldy parasite as he pushes the door of the shop open to the sound of the bell tinkling above.
He finds the origami paper quickly enough and has a momentary breakdown about what Bill’s favourite colour even is- he had never thought to ask him. Twenty seven years of following every single footstep of his like a dedicated, most definitely creepy stalker, three months of more than a few states traversed with Bill’s laughter now echoing in his ears like a shadow that trails after him, and this is what stumps him. It takes ten minutes, but he finally settles on light green.
- my first and last entry into the IT fandom bc i love these two but to be very fair there isn’t much content out there for him (and twitter content actually intimidates me lmfjgjjg) a thousand paper cranes never got much traction either but i suspect its bc i was horrible at promoting it. also i very much love this fic even if it never did that well bc ive always wanted to write a fic like this after watching the movie in cinemas in 2019
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ok nsfw i guess 
Mornings start like this- Eggsy snuffling into David’s neck, attempting to work his way back up to wakefulness as David sleeps the sleep of the dead, the streams of morning sunlight gradually lightening up the room. It’s a while before he gets the energy to sit up, pushing an eager V off the bed- V for Vendetta, a kitten named after one of David’s favourite movies that they’d adopted about a month after moving in together- before stumbling to the loo. He’s already in the shower when David comes in, naked as the day he’s born with his arms entwining themselves around Eggsy’s waist as he murmurs a sleep-soft, “Good morning, love,” as he presses a kiss into the two-days-old hickey on Eggsy’s shoulder. His breath smells of toothpaste, the minty fresh kind he insists on buying from Target no matter how much Eggsy insists that the other brand is much better. Without fail, Eggsy always has a split second thought of thinking that he must truly be in heaven because no way can this be his reality, every single day, before sinking to his knees and allowing David’s cock to hit the back of his throat.
- from that’s the kind of love i’ve been dreaming of. i genuinely wish i had an opinion for this but i don’t remember writing this its been way too long
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The first time Eggsy sees her is in Trafalgar Square.
Trafalgar Square is uncomfortably packed on any normal day, but on New Year’s it is quite the hothouse. Sweating armpits and hot bodies plastered against each other, the twinkling lights overhead providing a flash of blue and green and yellow and red, screaming children and giggling teenagers shoving their way through- it’s a recipe for disaster. Eggsy doesn’t know how he ends up there. It happens sometimes- one second he blinks, sequestered in the comfort of his living room, and the next he’s somewhere else, as if he’s been teleported. “Life goes past you,” Tilde had said once, “and you don’t even notice.” Tilde would be right.
- this is a roxy and eggsy friendship centric fic that i abandoned bc i lost my ardor for this world about the same time i got into xmen lmfjgjg. all the king’s horses also had some great fancasts in it with dev patel fancasted too... rip ig
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once again, nsfw
Eggsy, truth be told, doesn’t actually like having sex in bathrooms. First of all, bathrooms generally have an unsanitary air about them. Besides that, the granite of the sinks always feel cold against his hips, there is the ever present fear of being walked in on and unlike what people might say, he actually really isn’t that much of an exhibitionist- and truth be told, he’s never liked the look of himself in the mirror mid coitus.
For David Budd, however, he suspects he might be up for anything.
- from do you ever dream of me. im actually proud of this fic and this series, i never usually write straight up porn or friends w benefits and i think it worked well in here. once again didnt get much traction but that was very of the norm for my kingsman fics lmfjgj
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It is on his fifth meeting with the therapist on site that she brings the issue up. The elephant in the room- or the bomb , David thinks morbidly. If asked, he can’t remember specifics about that day now. All he remembers is this- the burn of Julia’s picture in his wallet against his thigh, the Botticelli painting on the far wall and Miss Paulson’s face, severe and unsmiling.
“When you couldn’t reach Julia,” she says, after he finishes describing the feeling of running to Julia, the panic searing his chest as he’d prayed for his legs to work faster so he could do something, anything to reach her hand. “How did that make you feel?”
- from your haunted social scene. i genuinely... do not remember anything about this either helpfkjgjg,,, this has 55 comments tho which. Nice
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David brings her home on- in a move far too cliche for it to be reality- a stormy night. It’s in fact storming so hard the windowpanes shudder like leaves in the wind, droplets crashing against the glass in a cacophony so loud Eggsy more than once considers turning the radio all the way up to drown it out. He’d gone scrounging for David’s sweatshirts instead of his own halfway through, wincing intermittently at the flashes of thunder. At a particularly loud one JB had jumped up, squeaked in a very undoglike manner and skidded across the floor to cower beneath the sofa, only coming out when coaxed by Eggsy to do so. Officer Oatmeal had watched the proceedings from her regal place by the armchair, dozy eyed and blinking heavily.
- from a cat named lavender. from what i remember this was also my first try at bringing up trans eggsy
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He first appears at the black prince on a cold Monday evening, eyes like Frank Sinatra and lips arresting anyone’s gaze if they weren’t careful enough. He stood out too, clad in a respectable bomber jacket and boots that clicked against the tile rhythmically and loudly, a sort of organised, measured cacophony.
“Go and serve him,” Andrew said, fat and disinterested, seated behind the counter and idly flicking through bills, less than ten percent of which he pays Eggsy. “I’m busy.”
- from trust is left in lovers after all. i never continued this which is sad bc this did get a lot of attention... it was just v hard to keep the story going
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It usually rains cats and dogs in London but for some reason, the rain is heavier than usual today. The droplets splatter against the windows in a constant buzzing rhythm, the sound meshing together in a melody not altogether pleasant to the ears. It’s half past five and yet the light has to be kept on because that’s how dark the sky has gotten- thunder rolls like a loud crack, abrupt and deafening, causing Daisy to jump in her seat.
“Just a thunderstorm, flower,” Eggsy says. They’re seated at the dinner table, Eggsy going over her homework while David sits opposite them, hunched over his laptop as he attempts to finish a post mission report. Eggsy is half convinced he gave up ten minutes ago- he’s got his earbuds in and he hasn’t really typed anything in a while, eyes focused on the screen. His eyebrows are scrunched up in a glare that’s too adorable for his own good- and for Eggsy’s.
- from could feel like kryptonite. a lot of my kingsman fics are actually so much happier than my cherik ones... i should prob look into that rip
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“When you’re done lazing around you can come in, you dozy dog,” he tells Officer Oatmeal, who butts her nose into his knee. She’s the only one not on a diet in the house, Eggsy deeming her far too healthy and skinny to need one anyway. In fact, she’s under strict instructions by Eggsy to fatten up instead.
Once the animals are done feeding- Eggsy sporting a suspicious scratch on his left forearm- they settle down to eat their scrambled eggs and toast. David’s taken a large gulp of his scalding coffee when Eggsy says, all of a sudden, “So, I have a school reunion.”
- from gonna set this dance alight. don’t remember much about this either tbh
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It isn’t a big event or explosion that makes David realise he wants to see his father’s ring sitting pretty on Eggsy’s index finger. No teary confessions in the rain like in the rom coms Eggsy loves to rent out and sniffle his way through, or a fight that makes David see sense. In the end, it’s breakfast that cinches the deal for him.
The day had started out normally enough. David wakes up at eight like clockwork, the soft downy hair at the base of Eggsy’s neck tickling his nose with his arm locked tight around his waist. He’d yawned, exhausted- mostly because they’d stayed up very late into the night making good use of the bed- before standing up and shucking his shirt off to head for the shower. Eggsy had shifted in his sleep, mumbling something unintelligible, and the sight had been too endearing to resist so he’d bent down, pressing a kiss to his forehead and smiling when Eggsy groaned out loud.
- from lover boy rules. i actually started a lot of my kingsman fics in the same way which is rather awful of me. im glad thats changed with my xmen fics lmfjgjk. also this has 15 comments???? i dont even get that much attention with my xmcu fics these days... which is arguably a more active fandom... Hello
anyway that’s the end of it needless to say i do not know 10 other authors so im just gonna tag whoever i know rn: @hellfre , @queerneto, @ikeracity, @drinkingstars, @zebraljb
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minervacasterly · 4 years ago
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HENRY V is one of my favorite English medieval monarchs and he has been played by handsome actors like Tom Hiddleston, Kenneth Branagh, Laurence Olivier and now TImothee Chalamet, but was he really as compassionate, scholarly, and fair as he’s depicted in those films?
One of the things I always say is that if you are going to go all mushy or admire one historical character from this period, then you must also take the bad with the good. You can't have it one way. You can't idolize 'x' character and look past his flaws, pretending that they were never there. It doesn't work that way.
Henry V is one of those complex figures that will always generate controversy. And the version we have of him comes from Shakespeare. These actors played him according to how the bard wrote him. At the time, England was in danger of political isolation, and it was a situation where it was 'us against the world' the world being the Catholic nations. Therefore, they needed a national hero to extol patriotism and who better than Henry V? He was not just THE hero who stood against a larger army and beat the odds, he was the King who took France! That's no small feat. No other King had ever done that. The way in which he did however, is not so heroic so Shakespeare tweaked some parts, took out some important female roles (like Isabeau of Bavaria who was part of the negotiations to surrender) and replaced them with a sound French king and a vengeful Dauphin, and of course to make the story even better, a romance between the fair princess Catherine of Valois and Henry V. Their marriage ended the war and their heir would unite the two kingdoms together.
Things didn't happen that way, the war continued even after Henry V died. His son and heir was barely two years old when he was crowned King of England, and still a child when he became King of France. His two surviving uncles fought like dogs with their uncle Cardinal Beaufort (as Bedford's -Henry V's oldest uncle- ally) to control the little boy, and keep his French possessions intact. Things did not go as planned, Bedford died, his successors were not very good and then Henry VI moved against his remaining uncle by imprisoning his wife.
While Shakespeare's sequels Henry VI (parts 1, 2, & 3)  and Richard III blame Henry's kid for losing everything, we can't make that assumption ourselves since -as great as his plays are- they are not real. They are historical fiction and they reflect the need of Shakespeare's time to believe in national heroes, when England was at war with all these countries, and to believe they could be great again. And also, supposing that Henry V would have lived, it is hard to say that history would not be repeated. Remember: Everyone remembers a rock star when they die young, but we rarely remember those who get old and can't hold on to what they won. Henry conquered France, he married the mad King's daughter, got a son; but it is likely that he would not have been able to keep it. Perhaps, under his leadership England would have retained some French territory, but even this is hard to say. Conquering is one thing, ruling is another.
To end this, I recommend Henry V by John Matusiak, Henry V by Ian Mortimer (though he is rather harsh on him, but he makes good points), Wars of the Roses: The Fall of the Plantagenets and the Rise of the Tudors by Dan Jones, and Foundation: A History of England from its Early Beginning to the Tudors by Dan Ackroyd. They give you the real Henry V, with all his flaws (including the brutal way in which he dealt with his enemies and towns and villages that opposed him), religious views (like so many, he also burned heretics. One of them was his friend who is believed was the inspiration behind the fictional buffoon character of 'Falstaff' in the Shakesperian plays of Henry IV part 1 and part 2) and attributes (being a great military leader, a scholar, and treating his soldiers well). Lastly, I also recommend this article by History Extra: https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/things-you-didnt-know-facts-henry-v-battle-agincourt-shakespeare-hundred-years-war-france/
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arofili · 5 years ago
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my girl aredhel for the character ask
How I feel about this character: LOVE HER. ICONIC. AMAZING. DESERVED SO MUCH BETTER. but seriously i love that she doesn’t take anyone’s shit and is confident and adventurous and smart. tolkien was a coward to kill her off, she could have saved beleriand tbh. (also, High Queen Aredhel of the Noldor after Turgon dies? her and Idril leading the refugees to safety? Maeglin with a mother who loves him and helps him find a place for himself in Gondolin? yes PLEASE.)
All the people I ship romantically with this character: WELL, as will surprise absolutely NOBODY who knows me and my tendency to make all my favs arospec, i see Aredhel as aromantic…BUT that doesn’t mean I can’t enjoy a good Rissi ship! I think she and Tyelko have a lot of potential, not romantically but as FWB, and I’ve written Aredhel/Nerdanel and enjoyed it. Really i’m down for whatever - I can even get into Aredhel/Eol if it’s handled with care. My favorite version of their relationship is one that started off intense and passionate and then soured as they realized they weren’t good for each other….not one that was abusive or nonconsensual from the get go. also, preferably without the racist undertones, yikes.
that’s a long winded way of saying i don’t have any particular Aredhel OTPs, but i’m interested in any shipping prospects that involve her - you’ve just gotta convince me!
My non-romantic OTP for this character: her and literally any lady character! (though i am also very much interested in a romantic relationship with her and lady characters, lol.) She and Galadriel were born the same year and since their fathers didn’t have beef between them I imagine they grew up thick as thieves :) I also think that while Fingon doted on Idril, Aredhel was the one who treated her like just a miniature adventuring buddy and would have brought bby!Itarille on hunting trips with her and Tyelko and the Ambarussa if Turgon wouldn’t have thrown a fit about it. I think Aredhel would have been great friends, or perhaps friendly rivals, with Luthien if they’d had the chance - they’re both very strong-willed women who won’t let anyone get in the way of what they want.
of course i’d be remiss not to talk about her friendship with Celegorm and Curufin - I think it’s really wonderful how much she just doesn’t care about the family politics and drama going on and is like “hell yeah, i’m friends with these two feanorian bitches, we’re gonna go prank EVERYONE in tirion!!” i bet galadriel was facepalming watching her and the two Cs run off causing havoc!
and I think the Turgon and Aredhel relationship gets slept on a lot of the time. They were close enough that Aredhel decided that she would go to Gondolin, presumably forever. Obviously things didn’t work out that way, but she clearly loved her brother. They were probably close in age, with Fingon being the “responsible” eldest child of the family (and very much distracted by Maitimo!) and Argon being The Baby - the two middle kids stuck together out of necessity, no matter how different they were in personality. And then after they arrive in Beleriand, with Argon dead and Fingon busy rescuing Maedhros and worrying about politics with their dad, I think they came together even more, especially with Aredhel helping Turgon care for Idril now that Elenwe is dead. I imagine they fought quite often, but there was that intense love for one another underneath it all.
My unpopular opinion about this character: [tw rape mention] Kind of more of an unpopular opinion about Eol, but like I said above, I don’t think their relationship is irredeemable. Tolkien waffled on it enough for me to try and see some happy times in the beginning, and I’m too uncomfortable with the racist stereotypes implied in Tolkien’s characterization of Eol as a Dark Elf rapist to accept that as my personal headcanon. (of course you’re entitled to your own interpretations, but this is mine.) A relationship that had potential but devolved into dysfunctionality is also just more interesting to me- i want to explore what went wrong and why, if it could have been salvaged and how. and if we go with that framework, I don’t think Aredhel is entirely blameless for things going bad - she could be selfish and harsh and unsympathetic, and that makes her a better character, not a worse one.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon: that she DIDNT FUCKING DIE. i kind of went off about what i’d like to see in an aredhel lives AU up top but like. COME ON TOLKIEN.
but seriously - in an early draft of TFOG Tolkien mentioned that she was lost in Nan Elmoth after being separated from Turgon’s army in the Nirnaeth, and GIVE ME THAT AREDHEL. give me battered, bloodstained warrior Aredhel limping through a dark and dangerous woods, fighting off spiders all alone, scared but persistent. Give me Aredhel running into Luthien (though that would have to be post-Bragollach, probably), not Eol, and them befriending one another. Give me Aredhel rescuing Eol from some danger, not him enchanting her. Give me Maeglin who grows up alone and lonely, yes, but hearing war stories from his mama, knowing that it’s not his dad that’s keeping them from Gondolin but the dangers of a world where Morgoth is winning and Aredhel not quite knowing where Gondolin is. Give me Aredhel and Eol working together, their marriage falling apart in a way similar to Feanor and Nerdanel’s did, without abuse inherent to the narrative. Give me her actually reuniting with Celegorm and Curufin and them being Maeglin’s weird uncles. Give me them running into mortals like Turin (I am a known Turin/Maeglin slut, after all) and Tuor, and helping them to find Gondolin. Give me an Aredhel who is an active part of the narrative throughout, not dying until the War of Wrath, or maybe even in a Kinslaying fighting against the cousins she used to love so dearly- give me her death in a great and tragic irony, not in a stupid cop-out fridging way like canon.
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storms-dnd-archive · 5 years ago
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My Top Fav Starkid Shows
Since I just watched Black Friday’s digital release now seems as good a time as any to rank my favorite musicals from Starkid.  I in no way think you should find these to be your favorites, they're just mine.  I’m gonna rank them in ascending order and explain a little why I chose that spot.  Please share with me your top lists as well!  Also, please be my friend and talk to me about musicals. 
12. Ani: A parody - I am sorry if I offend anyone, but I did not enjoy Ani very much. I did like how it seemed like a sports movie, and I didnt hate it. There were some funny moments. But on the whole, was just not a huge fan of this one. 
11. A Very Potter Senior Year - I know the quality is lower because they didnt have the same sort of time or resources to make it as nice as the other shows, but I think that warrants to be lower on the list. Also, the songs were not as memorable and the plot felt like it was forced a little. Still enjoyable, just to many issues to be higher on the list. 
10. Holy Musical, B@tman! - First, Lego Batman totally took inspiration from HMB, I can feel it in my bones.  So, I liked this musical, but there are not as many really strong songs that I catch myself remembering or wanting to sing along to. It's a cute story and I really like this one, it's just a little lower in quality for me.  Dark, Sad, Lonely Knight
9. Black Friday - This could possibly go up once I’ve seen it a few more times. I liked it, but the songs were not my favorite and as a story, it seems like it would have worked better as a play than a musical. But, maybe once the YouTube version drops I’ll feel differently.  I have spoiler opinions as well for the show, about what I super liked. But that will have to go on its own post.  Also, this has got to be the saddest show in the bunch. Like oof-a-rooni. I has the sad.  - cant name fav song, but Dylan Saunders ya’ll - 
8. Me and My Dick - Like A Very Potter Musical, this one is a classic for me. I watched it a lot when I was younger. I think it is incredibly funny and the plot is so off the wall surreal that a musical was literally the best choice medium it could have gone.  This spot is mostly nostalgic for me.  Ready to Go!
Bonus Tin Can Brothers: Spies Are Forever - Not the same group so technically should not be on the list at all, but it has enough of the same actors and people working on it that I think there is value in adding to the list.  I really liked this show at all. The songs were ok, but like Black Friday I think it would have worked better without being a musical. Still keep the opening song but perhaps it be a play the rest of the time.  The plot and story for this show are really great, the plot twist is amazing, and Curt Mega being a gay spy during a time during the Purple Scare is really something. (Check out Silvana LTD. on Youtube for a more comprehensive look on how brilliant this is.) Overall great show and I hope the Tin Can Brothers make more shows. 
7. Trail to Oregon - With some really great songs and one of the funniest shows in the lineup, there is so much to lobe about Trail to Oregon. It may not be the most dramatic plot or best songs, but because of how funny and enjoyable it is, it deserves a high spot. Basically, just a lot of fun. You Gotta Go - or - Pays to be an Animal
6. Firebringer - LESBIANS! -cough- So, this musical is great. It has a really nice polished feel that I think shows how far Starkid has come from its humble origins. It's also an original story and not a parody of anything, and that in its own right I think deserves a high spot on the list. Because it shows Starkid are not one-hit parody wonders. I think there is a lot to love about this one, with the lovable characters, political commentary, and really awesome visual effects.  Also, “I don't want to do the work today!” Into the Night!
5. A Very Potter Sequel - A really solid sequel. In its own right has a great plot while still tying to the first show's plot really nicely. Characterization is still great and all the new characters are very enjoyable. There are some great songs. Overall, it really pairs nicely with the original.  Harry Freakin Potter - or - Guy’s Like Potter
4. A Very Potter Musical - The OG, a Classic. Forever timeless. Where it all began and without we would have none of the other shows on this list. I wish more people or studios would put musicals online. Original, parody, or otherwise. There is such a strong need for creativity and fun musical entertainment. More people should take a chance. But anyways, such good music. Almost every song is a bop. The characters are hilarious and the plot is amazing.  I could go on but anyone bothering to read this post knows how good AVPM is. Granger Danger!
3. Twisted - I cried! This show is so well done. The blending of Wicked and Aladdin is so well done that you wish more villans would get this treatment. I would love to explore more stories in this manner. Not being a villain apologist but changing the story a bit and seeing a story from the perspective of someone everyone sees as a villain. Gosh, I love that concept.  This musical is great and I have very little critiques for it. Also, Dylan Saunders. If I believed in Wishes!
2. Starship - This originally would have been my absolute favorite and has been for a long time. But TGWDLM is just so catchy and the quality is so nice. Starship has better quality songs if comparing the two. The songs are really what make this, where almost every number is perfect and lends to the plot in the most cohesive way of all the Starkid shows. Also, a parody of Starship Trooper and the Littel Mermaid, sign me the fuck up. That is so original!  I love all the characters immensely and think that the character arcs are perhaps the best here than in any of the other shows. Overall, one of the best Starkid has done and I am always surprised it does not get more love from the community.  Also, the puppets are so great ya’ll! The puppets! Ok so my favorite song is Kick it Up a Notch, and it's my favorite villain song and possibly musical song, period. It is so jazzy and cool and catchy, I sing it all the time. Dylan Saunders has an amazing voice and this song highlights it in all the best ways. Also, Pincer looks amazing.  God, I love Starship. 
1. The Guy Who Didnt Like Musicals - Number 1! So, I gushed so much about Starship, how could any musical top it? Well, that's what I thought too until I watched TGWDLM a few times. While being a parody, on musicals as a whole and old SciFi, it is a fairly original plot. The acting here is some of the more natural feeling and better acted acting in all of the shows. It could practically be a movie (and I've seen so many requests that it become a movie, like please please become a movie!) The songs are perfect and have an emotional punch with each placement. None of them feel out of place and the ones that do feel that way with purpose since the Apotheosis is unnatural. The plot is just amazing, with perfect timing on emotional impact and moving purpose. The characters feel real and have good arcs. And although it ends rather bleakly, the twist ending actually lends to how unique and awesome of a musical it is. (Giving me strong Little Shop of Horrors vibes.) Overall, this is a musical I have watched several several times and recommended to a lot of people. It is really great and I will be the first person backing any Kickstarter or call to action that a movie would need to be made.  Best Song, besides all of them? La De Da De Day - or - Join Us (and Die)
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May 13th-May 19th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from May 13th, 2019 to May 19th, 2019.  The chat focused on Damsels Don’t Wear Glasses by J Alice Bown.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- WEEK LONG BOOK CLUB START!
Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Week Long Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on Damsels Don’t Wear Glasses by J Alice Bown~! (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/)
You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Remember, though, that while we allow constructive criticism, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic. Below you will find four questions to get you started on the discussion. However, a new question will be posted and pinned everyday (between 12:01AM and 6AM PDT), so keep checking back for more! You have until May 19th to tell us all your wonderful thoughts! With that established, let’s get going on the reading and the chatting!
QUESTION 1. What has been your favorite scene in the comic so far? What specifically did you like about it?
QUESTION 2. In so far, what aspect of the world-building catches your interest the most? Why is that so? Also, what theories do you have in regards to differences between places like Persephone and Hestia?
Delphina
For serious scenes, I think I gotta go with the big swordy magic scene where she saves Jake from being crushed by the statue (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/?comic_id=202) because the lighting effects are gorgeous and seeing Lave doing big magic stuff with her sword was really really cool. For silly scenes, the one that always sticks with me is Lave trying to be a host and failing miserably. (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/?comic_id=123)
keii4ii
2) I really liked this page. http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/index.php?comic=20180423 How she just asks a random person on the street for a magic shortcut and gets an answer right away. While it's always been clear that magic is an ordinary thing, this kind of little details really shows exactly how ordinary.
Capitania do Azar
I really like the prologue, particularly the part where they climb the lamppost. There's just so much character into the entire scene, and the exchanges are really cool. It's a very strong beginning for a story too, imo!!
2) http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/index.php?comic=20130423 I really think this part has a lot to show about world building like, here's this weird magical event going on, but everyone is just "I was just trying to show you something cool urg" and "well this ain't it"
duskglass
for the worldbuilding, i especially love the variety of creatures/nonhumans we've seen so far, and how well integrated they are with the setting! it's got a classic urban fantasy vibe while also being very fresh and unique
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. At the moment, who is your favorite character? What about that character earns them this favor?
QUESTION 4. What do you think Lave’s backstory is? Do you think she got all her scars from her job, or might some of them predate her job somehow? How do you think Jake will change the way Lave handles and deals with her life?
ClauseArt
heeey I just saw this! This is my comic! Thanks for taking the time to read it! c8
RebelVampire
1) i definitely gotta go with the scene where jake is in dream world like place with aishe. I really love how this scene just suddenly adds 1000 layers of mystery. Plus, i really just love the change in color scheme. It really gives it this other worldly feel that gives me goosebumps. Plus, I also just like Aishe's design. 2) I've really been enjoying the differences in magic. Like, for example, how most zombies actually suck cause ya know...theyre dead. I feel this adds such a great twist what we expect, cause every change I feel fits a more logical setup for what the magic does. Again, like how the zombie thing makes 1000% sense cause dead bodies are not the sturdiest. I am curious about why Lave had such a reaction to Hestia magic schools, but I don't have any theories outside of magic must be viewed very differently in places.
3) Kestrel because he's such a precious failure at life. Like...he just cannot catch a break and for some reason that makes him super endearing to me. Plus now hes got the whole aishe connection thing going on so that makes him double interesting. But mostly I want to boop him for all his failures. 4) I would think some of her scares would have to predate her job. Cause she's...she's got a lot of them. And considering she mentioned having been in jail, I'm kind of struck with the idea that maybe she ran with a gang or something. She super gives me the impression of someone who mostly raised herself and didnt have a huge loving family involved in teaching her how to deal with life. I think Jake will be a good influence on her though and teach her to be more careful. Cause she seems very fun loving and reckless, and while that can work when youre solo, its not great when you have other ppl. Like i think the Kestrel thing was a good example cause I felt Lave perhaps was too loose cannon with it, which semi resulted in Kestrel almost kicking the bucket. And Jake is like 1000 times more fragile, and I think it'll force Lave to see that she cant protect anybody if she goes around without a plan.
ClauseArt
@Capitania do Azar that scene with Kest and lave interacting around the lamp-post was actually the moment I decided Kest worked well as a main character. He was honestly going to die in the original draft. @keii4ii thanks! I super love just....the mundane feeling of everyday magic. @Delphina Honestly Lave just being a f--k up is probably my fav part of writing her character, especially for comedic effect XD Next to drawing glowy magic scenes of course.(edited)
@RebelVampire Oh wow this is a lot. Thank you! ;-; dammit I really can't respond to these kind of questions cus spoilers. But I'm glad you noticed a lot of my characters having...well a habit of messing up (and Lave did not handle that first chap well cough) XD Also Aishe is my fav character to draw, because Kest is my fav character to draw only its + because glowy effects. I do really like when more real world logic is put in fantasy, like corpses making for bad heavy hitters unless they're in a swarm. So I'm super glad you liked that!
Capitania do Azar
4. If Lave's style has always been what we've seen so far, then all those scars don't surprise me at all! They'd be the natural consequence of past encounters, work related or otherwise. It just kinda feels that everything ends with someone getting punched around her
3. I've really liked pretty much everyone, but I think Lave's my favorite cuz she's sturdy but messy and I feel there's a lot to be learned about her aha
And also she prolly also has a lot to learn
RebelVampire
QUESTION 5. What has been your favorite illustration in the comic so far? What specifically about it do you like?
QUESTION 6. Why do you think Jake is in Persephone with no guardian? What theories do you have on Jake’s hatred of non-humans? Will Jake be able to overcome his prejudice?
Capitania do Azar
6. Jake feels a lot like is somebody important's family but important could mean a lot of things. And has for his discomfort, I think it mostly stems from not knowing/being used to all this magic, which gives me the idea that some of these cities are less magical than others
5. Not an illustration, but I really love how in the last pages, as the sun rises, the colors become brighter and the sky becomes pink!!
It really helps bringing home the feeling that the night is over and the quietness of early morning, which is kinda fitting since they also stopped fighting
Delphina
I think I gotta go with Lave as my favorite character too because competent + ridiculous + magical +swordy is my entire jam so she's sorta the best of all worlds. Gena holds a special place in my heart too because she's clearly trying to keep a lot of things together.
Illustration-wise, I love how things like Jake's anxiety (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/?comic_id=198) or Chirovision (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/?comic_id=237) or Aisheland (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/?comic_id=225) traveling through magic spaces (http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/index.php?comic=20170501) make the palette and rendering different depending on the mood. Really good use of a more abstract style to convey tone and worldbuilding.
(Now I want there to be a DDWG theme park where there's weird places like Aisheland)
varethane
Lave is my fave!!!! I love her goofy attitude paired with how much butt she kicks when it's necessary. I love seeing people underestimate her and then get surprised, haha.(edited)
My favourite illustration is.... hard to pick, but probably this page: http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/?comic_id=206
Capitania do Azar
oh yeah, I really love the color work for those scenes, it carries out the emotions very well
RebelVampire
QUESTION 7. Which characters do you enjoy seeing interact the most? What about their dynamic interests you?
QUESTION 8. For what purpose do you think someone sold Kestrel the cursed orb? How does this tie into the axe theft mystery Lave is asked to solve? What overall is going on regarding these illegal items, and how will it tie into the story?
Capitania do Azar
7. Anything that comes out of Kestrel's mouth is gold, but when he and Lave bicker it's even better!!!
Please just let them bicker more for my amusement
8. It really feels like someone's around trying to spread SOME mayhem and if one object was possessed then maybe it's not the only one... could be a tricky situation
Delphina
Will second that Lave and Kest definitely need to bicker more
RebelVampire
5) im kind of cheating by saying i really like the extra page about the leylines http://damsels-dont-wear-glasses.com/index.php?comic=20160620 its really simplistic yet i think the illustrations work super well to help convey all the world-building information. its just a nice combo of huge info drop with some pleasant visual accompaniment 6) I assume Jake is probably an orphan from some important family? Or that Jake's family is super high up in rank somehow and just went "nah man we dont want this kid no more." while i def think some of jake's hate comes from ignorance, i also get the impression that jake had a bad experience with non-humans. something about jake's reactions just really strike me as ptsd. overall yeah, i think jake is gonna have to overcome it. plus, exposure breeds familiarity. its hard to be in the lion's den and continue to hate the lions.
7) jake and basically any non-human. I really just enjoy seeing jake's various reactions of "eww no" and then having to be confronted with the fact that not all non-humans are bad. It just makes me more and more curious about jake's past. plus, all these interactions really serve as a great tracking devices for how jake evolves in opinion. 8) With Kestrel, I kind of think someone is trying to draw Aishe out. I mean Aishe does have pretty neat butterflies and powers, so I can't blame them. Though I assume its a revenge thing cause I get the impression ppl arent all that happy with Aishe. But thus why other illegal items are being involved because you need powerful stuff to get to the powerful people.
Desnik
That leyline page is gorgeous and informative, I love the combo of worldbuilding and infographics
RebelVampire
QUESTION 9. What sorts of art or story details have you noticed in the way the comic is crafted that you think deserves attention?
QUESTION 10. Who exactly is Aishe and what are their goals? What does this have to do with the undead from the first chapter? Why did Aishe help Jake? What will Lave do when she learns about Aishe?
RebelVampire
QUESTION 11. What do you think are this particular comic’s strengths? What do you think makes this comic unique? Please elaborate.
QUESTION 12. What do you think the story with Chiro is? How did he wind up as Lave’s roommate? Will Chiro and Jake learn to get along? Also, do you think there might be anything special about Chiro that might affect the story?
AshAngelV
6. I think he's come from an entirely different world that doesn't have non humans and magic.
AshAngelV
11. The world building and color scheme are definitely strong points. It feels fully fleshed out and magical, but also very grounded like it's this amazing magical place that's also totally normal. Also, the characters. Having a bunch of flawed characters with baggage is always more interesting than having perfect characters with no problems and even the bit characters feel dynamic. Like they have their own story and interests rather than being part of the scenery exsisting only for the MCs to interact with.
RebelVampire
9) The thing I appreciate the most details wise is just the physical flaws. Especially Lave's scars. Adding details like that can be really tedious, yet it really helps deliver so much character that I always enjoy when the time is taken to include things like that. 10) I feel like Aishe is probably some necromancer from the past who is trying to rectify a mistake that was made. I think Aishe helped for the reason they said: Jake did a kindness and gotta pay that shit forward. I feel like Lave is 100% not going to trust aishe and basically just encourage everyone to do the same. Maybe suggest Kestral seek professional help. But yeah, I don't see a green butterfly person flying with Lave XD 11) I think this comic's strengths lie in two areas. First, the implementation of magic. There are clear rules, there's enough deviations from the standard to be interesting, and the fact its presented as a normal culture thing is well-integrated. second, the color palettes are really amazing and suit the tone and atmosphere of each scene really well. 12) I feel like Chiro might be a bit special since that one person did wonder what species Chiro was or something like that. And that because of this specialness Chiro was outcasted. Hence why he wound up with Lave cause ya know, outcasts gotta stick together. I think Chiro and Jake will bond for sure down the road. Cause i mean Chiro did just help save Jake's butt, and thats gotta earn him some Jake points right?
AshAngelV
12. I think Chiro might be a vamp that just stays in bat form or maybe only has bat form.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 13. What are you most looking forward to in the comic? Also, do you have any final thoughts to share overall?
QUESTION 14. What do you think Kestrel’s role will be in regards to the larger story? Can Kestral and Aishe be detached from one another, or is the attachment permanent?
AshAngelV
14. I think he'll be the guy that's in a constant state of terror and peril. And I think the detaching will be up to Aishe.
ClauseArt
man its super hard not to chime in on these ahhh D8
Delphina
Rebel makes such good questions XDD
varethane
I am looking forward to several things! - what is Jake's deal and how is he linked to aishe -Lave's bite mark scar!!!! what is it!!!!!! -what will Kest do next -more Lave plz(edited)
RebelVampire
@Delphina thank you for saying so~!
13) im looking forward to more aishe doing aishe stuff just cause i dig that aesthetic a whole lot. im also looking forward to learning more about jake so more concrete theories can be made about wtf jake's deal is. and also why nobody else could take jake besides lave cause i mean seriously...theres gotta be more sane choices XD 14) Kest is gonna become a real mage and do magic stuff. also ya know, hide out with lave cause now the ppl he owes money too are probably gonna be out for blood. as for detaching...maybe not so much. i more feel like once Aishe is done with their tasks, their essence will just kind of disappear and merge with kest.
AshAngelV
Hang in there Clause.
ClauseArt
@AshAngelV I will try D8
I can at least promise a lot of these theories are gonna be answered sooner or later
RebelVampire
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the-benevolent-beast · 6 years ago
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How did you come up with the idea for jade?
((**Oh,,, ooOOOHHHH— This may or may not be long, but I will try to sum it up as quick as possible, otherwise I might ramble too much,,))((**Lets see, first I’ll start off with how long I’ve had her- so, its 2019, and I made her in about the 2010-2012 span I think, idk, my memory tends to be spotty, but my point is that I’ve had her for a pretty long time at this point))((**Since her creation, she’s gone through some body changes, but she’s overall kept her black and white colors with golden-yellow eyes and a heart hole thats never changed shape or placement; she used to actually wear more than just pants, and used to not have her more animalistic legs- but it didnt take me too long before I decided to actually make her as animalistic as possible instead of just a monstrous humanoid with fluffy ears and a tail- which yes I cringe at a lot, but we’ve all had to start somewhere, right? And I wanted a more animal like body for her, which is why her legs are how they are now, because I just thought it’d suit her far far better than her old version–))((**If I’m going to be completely honest, and I’ve admitted this before at some point I think a long time ago- Jade’s very first version of herself came to mind and ended up being created because I had just found out about and got interested in the CreepyPasta fandom, and I had found a specific and very actually sorta popular Comic- PastaMonsters (by @/Comickit if you didn’t know which I’d be surprised if you didnt its an amazing comic go read it—))((**Basically that comic gave me the motivation and idea to create a Creepypasta monster character, so thats what I started with. I started with the Idea of a monster-esque female and then I thought of a name. Frankly I actually meant to do a short J name, bc… Jeffery was my favorite at the time, so I went with a short J name that hadn’t been taken yet (to my knowledge) and came up with Jade, with is actually a name I really like as well (so much so that I ended up naming my cat Jade as well but it was fitting- this was off topic sorry))((**But then I added that everyone just calls her Jade, but her full first name is Jadeth, which makes it even more unique and I love it, its oddly elegant, or at least to me))((**Basically her first version was mainly wolf-esque version of a.. s i g h, neko girl sort of, with the ears and tail and a few other minor details like Teeth, while her eyes remained somewhat more cat like- both animals also influenced some of her behaviors and actions… But again it didnt take me long to change her into a far more animalistic and monstrous type of character, while her personality sorta just.. me?))((**That’s another thing I almost want to touch on- Im Jade, but Jade isnt me per say. She’s not a sona, she’s not a fursona or monstersona, shes not a sona- she’s a character that I love more than any other- she’s more of an icon to me to a point- if there’s something I put forward to show or represent me, its her, but shes not a sona or anything-??. I’m Jade, I see some or a lot of myself in Jade, but she Is Not me. I don’t know if any of that made sense but I sure hope it did? Even alittle))
((**I got the overall Idea to make Jadeth because I loved monsters, I loved animals, I was interested in this fandom, that Comic influenced me to a point and sorta motivated me, and after I had made a character- I met a friend or two who encouraged me to keep going with Jade’s idea because they too had created a character for or vaguely for the same fandom- and I think, I could be wrong, but I think we both sorta just kept each other going and made each other brave enough to expand and develop…))((**I had made fan characters and such for things before, just these characters for things I liked- but Jade is the one character (regardless of what she was originally made for, aka the CreepyPasta fandom) that has stuck with me for so long, and I just keep at her. I keep developing and tweaking and having fun with her- so many ideas and there’s so many things I’d love to see her be in or do in the future; like any creator, someday I’d like to see her be popular or a character that a lot of people might like- like a good few key creeps we see today like Jeff or LJ for example. Maybe not so thrown out of proportion to the point so many many many people sorta `share` her, because she is Mine, and I will stress that to the day I Die, but just… have her be popular, or at least known, and liked- you know?))((**This is off topic to her creation but At some points in the past I had always wanted to make a comic for her, in some context, or have her be apart of something big or the like. While her story has never been posted, I have sort of summed it up for certain people in the past. I’ve summed it up and i’ve summed it up for myself, to the point where working on her actual story(stories?) has become sorta difficult to me, but hopefully it will actually get written out fully and posted for all to see and read… Hopefully.))((**At some point I do plan on expanding on Animation a lot more, so she will definitely be a focus of my animations/animatics/etc at some point, which might help how people will see her bc then they’ll finally see her move or at least sort of… and at some other point, I would love to finally give her a voice..?))((**Which I’ll mention is actually My voice, which might also tie in to how closely I see myself in her.. its only because I’ve never really found a voice that I like for her, and my voice has always been her voice up to this point- so I’ve just accepted it and decided that her voice is my voice, and perhaps one day ya’ll may finally hear it at some point…))((**Okay– I think thats a lot and I’ve sorta rambled and gone off topic plenty,,, sorry about that- but thanks for reading through if you did entirely ; w ; ))
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I’ve just seen Avengers: Infinity War for the third time. Let’s talk about it.
There are SPOILERS AF under the cut as well as rabid fangirl thoughts. STEER CLEAR OK if that’s not your shit. Thank you.
- IT OPENED WITH A BANG. The Russo Bros obv did not give ONE (1) fuck about the emotions of anybody cause it starts off intense as SHIT. Showing us the stakes of the movie and the power of it’s villain by having Thanos not only destroy Asgard, but also incapacitate The Hulk and then kill ( is he really tho ?) Loki. 
- Speaking of Asgard, I was VERY impressed with Thor’s arc this movie. He was great. His emotions as he was talking to Rocket, he was laughing and smiling while he was trying not to cry and when he listed off how many people in his life that have died, I got emotional. That shit really got me.
- GAMORA. OMG. Her storyline. She shines so much. Her and Drax. He got so many funny lines in, he had me CACKLING at WHY IS GAMORA and I CAN TAKE IT and BUT MY MOVEMENT IS SO SLOW. When both he and Gamora ended up perishing (Gamora’s death hit me harder the second time I watched it, and it hit me HARD the first time), I almost cried.
- ‘WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!!” - T’Challa before running into battle. Chills.
-That was one of the greatest cinematic experiences I’ve had. I was so on the edge of my seat with how much was going on at all times. I was overwhelmed, really.
-MANTIS IS POWERFUL Af?!?!?!?! YAL SHE WAS HOLDING BACK THANOS FOR A LONG ASS TIME!! SHE RENDERED HIM INCAPACITATED. DAMN GIRL WERK THAT SHIT
-I’m glad Nebula was back. I really LOVED her growth in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.
- Scarlet Witch and Vision. WHAT DEVELOPMENT MY WORD. They were PRECIOUS. So REAL that when it came time for what Scarlet Witch had to do, I saw the pain in her eyes. As Vision was whispering “It’s alright,” to her and she destroyed him FUCK but then Thanos really fucked it up didn’t he, I FORGOT he had the Time Stone for a second
-ALL. THE. BATTLES. So chaotic but just so WELL DONE and I could see everything that ws going on. Like SHIT MARVEL YAL REALLY JUST WENT FOR IT DIDNT YOU
-Tony. Stark. TONY STARK. That’s my BOI right there. Everything about him this movie was just so FUCKING good. I LOVE him. Not everyone does, but after this movie, he won over so many people who try to hate him for no reason (I have hours of ammunition to #ProtectTonyStark). The Russo Bros really allowed a lot of Tony Stark’s character to shine without losing his sass. He was ALLOWED to tell Squidward to go home but also tell Doctor Strange that he didn’t know what to do because Thanos has been in his head for 6 years. He was ALLOWED to show how powerful he was when he made Thanos bleed but also allowed that moment of grief when he was clutching the hand covered in Peter Parker’s dust crumbled body. 
- STRANGE’S CLOAK SLAPPING TONY’S ASS, IM /DEAD
- Was NOT expecting them to kill as many as they did. I really wasn’t. The ending was so traumatizing.
-Doctor Strange has such cool ass powers. His illusions were so trippy to look at. 
- I LOVED THE DEVELOPMENT OF TONY AND STRANGE’S DYNAMIC. IT WAS HONESTLY AWESOME. From ‘douchebag’ to ‘Tony’, their evolution together was nice. Their personalities boucing off each other was great.
-Speaking of Doctor Strange, we all understand why he gave up the Time Stone to Thanos right? He said he saw 14,000,605 alternate paths to Thanos, and in only ONE of those do they win. He told Tony before they landed on Titan that he would NOT save Tony OR Peter if it came to the safety of the Stone. But he GAVE UP THE STONE. To spare Tony’s life. Saying “Tony, it was the only way.” Tony is needed in the destruction of Thanos. In the scenario that they do win, Tony Stark is neccessary. And thank goodness too, because I REALLY THOUGHT Tony was gunna die.
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((apparent triggering confession next, move on to the next point if you dont like the first sentence))
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- I left shipping Thanos and Tony. I know. I KNOW. I KNOW, OKAY?!?!? I didn’t want to. I didn’t even ship them the first time I saw the movie. Probably cause I was so freaked out with what was happening. This is perhaps the one ship I’ve shipped that I don’t want to ship. Maybe because he knew who Tony Stark was. Told him he was smart, that he was “cursed with knowledge.” Then he told Tony he respected him. Then he pet Tony’s head (honestly that made me ??????????????? inside and probably what sparked this shit tbh). AND. I was LOOKING for it on the third watch because I THOUGHT I saw it the second time; as Thanos was talking to Tony, Thanos shed a tear. Out of his left eye, after he told STark he respected him with his hand on Tony’s head. HAlf of humanity will still be alive, he said. Watching Tony and he shed a tear. I SWEAR TO YOU do look for it next time if you think you’ll go watch it again. I was like WTFFF IS THAT????????? Idk idk yal I’m so confused, and I’m TELLING YOU that I’ve never felt so bad about shipping before because IDK WHY I SHIP THEM. As I left the second tiem watching it, my brain was writing an alternate scene to that scene. IDK IDK IDK idk idk idk idk idk idk
- I still ship Tony with Steve. I CANT WAIT FOR THEM TO MEET AGAIN. It’s inevitable, right? I know they havent spoken in 2 years, but this will force them to meet. And they fell out hard from Civil War. What will be their first words to each other? Who will speak first. Will Tony make a joke, look around and pretend he still doesn’t feel hurt? Will they hug? Will they still clash? I don’t feel like Cap is the guy that holds a grudge like that, if anything he will react based on how Tony acts. Will he ask forgiveness? Does he even need to? Did they miss each other? AFter all, Cap entered the fold when he was contacted after Tony went missing, saying “You just lost EArth’s best defender.” PHEW fam PHEW
- As Tony Stark has always been and will always be my favorite Avenger, I felt such pride on the third watch to confirm that the largest reaction out of each audience was when Thanos stabbed Tony. Loud, palpable gasping. One low conjoined sound of “OOOOooooohhh!!” echoing in the theater. Twice someone screamed. The attachment we feel to them all is immense, right? We’ve all been together with Tony Stark the longest, and that impact was so satisfying to feel on a grand scale like that for me. Whether you love Tony Stark or not, EVERYONE felt that fear of him dying in that moment. Hell, so many people were dead by that point that it WASNT IMPOSSIBLE. I cried the first time. I had to furiously wipe tears so I could keep watching the screen; I didn’t want to miss anything. I needed to see Tony’s end if that’s what happened; I owe him that. In case it’s unclear, Tony Stark is my favorite fictional character of any medium.
-omg when Gamora said, “you promised” before Quill went to shoot her, I was SHOOK fam omfg. And also when Gamora went to commit suicide before Thanos could throw her into the canyon....I REALLY felt Gamora’s story this movie. I know I said it earlier but it was GREAT.
- *mocking tone* “I am Groooooot.” everyone: WOAH THAT ATTITUDE (LOL I DIED)
-I was PISSED at Quill for fucking up the plan. THEY ALMOST GOT THE GAUNTLET OFF THEY WERE SO CLOSE and he messed it up....I get why tho and by the end I couldnt even fauult him for it, but in the moment I was PIISSSSSSSSSSED.
-The ending was.............honestly satisfying. It ended cliffhanger-y but not an IMMEDIATE, OMFG WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN cliffhanger.
Whata good movie omfg. I still don’t know where it ranks for me, Top 5 for SURE. Seeing is this many times, the story holds up, the humor holds up, the character work holds up, the pacing is seemless. It was SO GREAT. It was darker too, and I loved that.
What are yal’s thoughts?
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Reading Recap: October 2018
At the end of every month, I take a look back at my reading journal and share the books and my thoughts on them here. The comments below are excerpts from my full reviews on Goodreads; you can always keep up with my reading in real-time over there.
The books I read in October were all over the place—a lyrical, lovely historical novel; a thrilling fantasy-adventure; a collection of moody short stories of the English countryside; two dark and spooky novels, an elegant investigation with Miss Phryne Fisher—plus two thoroughly engrossing audiobooks.
I’m still thinking about the Tiger’s Wife.
In fact, I gave it 4 1/2 stars, but maybe it’s 5. Maybe it will eventually be bumped to my all-time favorites list because I keep thinking about it.
The Tiger’s Wife by Téa Obreht | 4 1/2 stars I don’t want to give too much away about the events of this book because the way it unspools as you read is so… perfect. And it’s a difficult book to explain because it’s definitely a novel, but it’s also a collection of beautifully told, interconnected stories.
The basics are in the flap copy: Natalia is a young doctor in an unnamed Balkan country; from the descriptions, you can sort of figure out that it’s Serbia. She’s dealing with the aftermath of the civil wars when her beloved grandfather dies. As she’s trying to understand the circumstances surrounding his death, she tells stories: about herself, about her grandfather and retells stories that he’s told her… about a magical tiger and the tiger’s wife. As Natalia eventually learns, the stories her grandfather has been telling her are not fairy tales, but true stories of his life and the other villagers in Galina. Just as her grandfather’s youth was shaped by war, so was Natalia’s and her reality as a teenager during the Balkan wars echo the fable-like stories of his past.
This books takes you directly into Balkan villages—to WWI, WWII, as well as the fraught 1990s—and casts a spell while it explores the different kinds of love, secrets and dreams, the way the fallout of war spirals from the past into the present.
Favorite highlight: “Like everyone in the village, he had faith in the rituals of superstition. He gave money to beggars before traveling, put pennies in the shrines of the Virgin at crossroads, spat on his children when they were born. But, unlike his fellow villagers, he was renowned for having a deficit. He had been born in a lean year, without a ducat under his pillow. To make matters worse, an estranged aunt had once allegedly lifted him from his crib and praised heaven for what a beautiful baby, what a gorgeous, fat, blessed, rosy child he was—forever sealing his destiny to be impoverished, crippled, struck down and taken by the devil at some unexpected time, in some terrifying way.”
European Travel for the Monstrous Gentlewoman by Theodora Goss | 4 stars This is a rollicking adventure with lots of feels thrown in along the way, which is my very favorite kind of story. It picks up where The Strange Case of the Alchemist’s Daughter left off. Our five kickass heroines, aka, The Athena Club—all the offspring of literary characters who are… SURPRISE!… real people in this alternate version of London—are off on a mission to rescue Lucinda Van Helsing from an insane asylum. The action involves, in no particular order, a daring asylum escape, sleeper cars on the Orient Express, hiding in a traveling circus, crashing a meeting of the Alchemical Society, and eating cake in the art nouveau cafes of Budapest. I love the Saturday-afternoon-serial feel of the narrative—coupled with lovely writing and characters I want to spend my time getting to know.
There are genuine emotions here among all the action, too. The girls, all technically monsters in their own way, struggle with their humanity and wrestle with what it means to do the right thing, how to find balance between toughness and tenderness, and making peace with themselves and the found-family they’ve formed together.
This would be a fantastic read-along with Dracula because there are plenty of smart, sly references to that novel. I read them back-to-back unintentionally, and it was a brilliant experience.
Favorite highlight: “If you have been up all night, escaping from a burning mental asylum or fighting men who refuse to die when you shoot them in the forehead, or both, coffee is the perfect beverage.”
Help the Witch by Tom Cox | 4 stars This is a collection of short stories from one of my favorite nonfiction writers. Tom Cox is the author of books about cats that are not books about cats—they’re about nature and living in the country and the power of walking and family and basically everything that makes life good. Now he’s written a collection of spooky and eerie, unsettling—not scary—stories that put you right there in the moody Peak District of central England. The writing on his web site is also brilliant.
Favorite highlight: “Outside, the dark is very dark. But in the day, the whiteness is very dark too, sometimes ever darker.”
Melmoth by Sarah Perry | 3 1/2 stars I’ve been thinking about this book since I turned the last page, and here’s where I’ve landed: It has a perfectly spooky gothic tone that I was super into. Throughout there’s some very moody, supernatural-ish stuff going on that was spine-tingly. I read this book in one day because I couldn’t put it down. It was an ignore-everything marathon of reading because I needed to know how it would all play out.
This novel is a series of stories told by different characters about the darkest times in their lives, and the stories they share are DARK, but not in the virginal-maiden-locked-in-a-castle way. They’re dark in a peoples’-lives-were-ruined way that was not fun at all. It was horribly sad. And I feel like that kind of serious subject matter is in direct contrast with the isn’t-it-spooky tone of the novel. Ultimately, I found the whole thing really depressing and when I closed the book, I was sorry that I’d devoted an entire day to it. But it’s so well crafted and well plotted, I feel like a jerk with my criticisms.
And there you have it. I still don’t really know how I feel about this book except that I for-sure won’t be reading it again. But also, I will never forgot some of its scenes.
Favorite highlight: “The Silence is something more than the absence of noise. If it is possible to hear silence, Helen hears it: a thick, soft sensation against the drums of her ears.”
Urn Burial by Kerry Greenwood | 4 stars I adore Phryne Fisher—in print and in the TV series ‘Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries—because she’s a super feminist and her politics—and the politics of the book—are very progressive. The juxtaposition of 1920s slang and fashion with ultra-modern opinions is irresistible, and I cannot resist a found-family. Phryne has created a lovely family for herself with her assistant Dot and her housekeepers, Mr and Mrs Butler. In this particular book, there’s a murder at a manor house, which is like catnip for me: lots of listening through doors, scampering to lovers’ bedrooms in the middle of the night, forced cocktail hour… it’s fab.
Favorite highlight: “It took determination to be really strange. That, or absinthe before breakfast every day.”
The Witch Elm by Tana French | 3 stars I think Tana French is excellent at what she does—I couldn’t put this down because I needed to know what was going to happen, and I had no idea how it was all going to resolve itself. Really, the writing craft should get 5 stars.
But man! this was really not for me. Even though I compulsively turned the pages, I didn’t enjoy the experience or the characters at all. The only character I liked died.  I thought everyone else was horrible: duplicitous, selfish, whiny, untrustworthy. I am grateful I don’t know people like this in real life, and I don’t enjoy spending time with them, even if it’s pretend and on paper.
Favorite highlight: “Hugo’s road has that effect; it gives the impression of being there only on alternate Thursday or to people with they mysterious talisman in their pockets, invisible the rest of the time and instantly forgotten when you leave.”
Dracula by Bram Stoker (audiobook) | 5 stars
I’m a sucker for epistolary novels, so before even opening the pages the first time I read this book, I was pretty much on board. Then when I got to know Mina and Jonathan, Dr. Seward and Van Helsing—I was smitten. This is a big, sweeping adventure story, and although it was published in 1897, it’s surprisingly modern. Unlike, say, the Brontës, which require a little work sometimes to get through the prose, this is very readable and the action moves at a good clip. But it’s not all desperate carriage rides and stake stabbings; there are a lot of genuine emotional moments in this book, and I love the way Mina turns out to be the heroine of the whole enterprise.
This audiobook version is fantastic. The voice work is very compelling and really brings the story to life.
Favorite highlight: “It is a strange world, a sad world, a world full of miseries, and woes, and troubles. And yet when King Laugh come, he make them all dance to the tune he play. Bleeding hearts, and dry bones of the churchyard, and tears that burn as they fall, all dance together to the music that he make with that smileless mouth of him. Ah, we men and women are like ropes drawn tight with strain that pull us different ways. Then tears come, and like the rain on the ropes, they brace us up, until perhaps the strain become too great, and we break. But King Laugh he come like the sunshine, and he ease off the strain again, and we bear to go on with our labor, what it may be.”
The Shadow Land by Elizabeth Kostova (audiobook) | 5 stars I’ve read this book in print at least once, maybe twice? And I loved it for the reasons the NYTimes review didn’t… the beginning, before it gets into the heart of the story from the past, is a travelogue/love letter to Bulgaria—and that voice is part of what I loved so much about Elizabeth Kostova’s first book The Historian. This one has so many things I love: a mystery, foreign travel, a little romance, the love of a found-family, things that are not what they seem, shocking revelations over food, and regular people following mysterious clues to dangerous conclusions. At every moment I thought, “This is exactly what it would be like if *I* found myself caught up in a mystery” and since I’m always secretly hoping that will happen, I loved this story. There are plenty of surprises—I actually gasped a few times and shed a few tears. The big reveals aren’t obvious, but when they happened, I was, like, “Oh, yeah… that makes sense.”
The voice acting in this audiobook is awesome. Each character gets its own voice and is immediately recognizable. This is particularly effective when a character tells a story from the past—the accents, the aging voices, the emotion… it’s lush and moving and all-together engrossing.
Favorite highlight: “Always thinking. Thinking too much, and then sometimes not enough. You read a lot of books, yes?”
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ship manifesto: jyn erso/cassian andor
Fandom: Star Wars: Rogue One Pairing: Jyn Erso/Cassian Andor Recced on livejournal by: sugangel7
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What do you get when a headstrong, fiery rebel meets a cool, reserved captain?
ALL OF THIS:
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He hadn’t known her, didn’t know her, of course. There wasn’t the time.
Credit to: http://cassianskywalkers.tumblr.com/post/155918947283/he-hadnt-known-her-didnt-know-her-of-course
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I’m not used to people sticking around when things go bad.
Credit to: http://wrinchester.tumblr.com/post/155693213487/im-not-used-to-people-sticking-around-when-things
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Credit to: http://jedileiaorgana.tumblr.com/post/155282010231/jyncassian-text-post-meme
Why write a ship manifesto for these two? Rebelcaptain stole my heart and then some. The one thing that soothes my soul is that there is a whole community of like-minded folks who have written tons of seriously beautiful fic that pretty much meets every single desire you had for this unwitting rebel and intelligence captain after watching the beautiful action-packed war epic that was the movie Rogue One. And you probably read the novelization too, which just whetted your appetite even more. (And let’s not forget about the official Star Wars Spotify playlist for Cassian Andor which just reaffirms their tragic, beautiful love story even more.)
I could’ve spent ages longer on this manifesto, and there are still some gorgeous fics out there that I have not yet read that I am dying to read, but I hope this serves as a somewhat comprehensive look at what the rebelcaptain fanfiction fandom has to offer. (Also look at the het-reccers tag, because a few of my favorites of theirs have already been recced). And check out the rebelcaptain tag on tumblr because there is so much good stuff to be found on there.
Rec #1: If you’re in the mood for some really well-done slow burn...
Title: semantics (it’s a series of one-shots!)
Author: katsumi
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/series/631220
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: ~2000 words for each one-shot / four one-shots with perhaps more to come
Why This Must Be Read: This captures the careful hesitation on the parts of both Jyn and Cassian while all their friends just don’t quite get it while some of them do. Fluffy, humorous, and heart-wrenching by turns.
“How is sleeping not the same as sleeping?” K2 asks, and shit, this is not a path Cassian wants to go down with him. He closes his eyes, pinching the bridge of his nose.
“Semantics,” he says, and he can hear the clink of bolts as K2 slumps a little. K2 has always been moody about that human tendency to say things that don’t mean what they’re supposed to mean, a tendency the droid finds “complicated” and “uselessly theatric.” “Oh,” K2 says, voice dripping with disdain. “I see.”
Rec #2: If you’re in the mood for some gorgeously romantic hurt/comfort...
Title: you will hope in something real
Author: tryalittlejoytomorrow
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9119407
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 4590 / No
Why This Must Be Read: This is a brilliant character study of Jyn and is just soft, quiet, and utterly, utterly romantic.
Rain catches on his eyelashes, and she becomes fixated on that, too. His face is a blur but she sees the little drops so distinctly, can count them, and he's beautiful, she can't deny it, and she wants to kiss him all of a sudden, or maybe it's not so sudden, after all. Jyn's been wanting to kiss him since that long ride in the elevator. Wanting to kiss someone when you feel like you're about to die is not exactly the same thing as wanting to kiss them every day, in the aftermath, Jyn's painfully aware. She's never wanted that before. She can't say that she hates that her life is now divided between before and after Cassian. It's another warm, stupid feeling Saw never took the time to explain.
Rec #3: If you’re in the mood for a true action-heavy war fic...
Title: spes semper mihi adest
Author: rain_sleet_snow
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9228242/chapters/20928818
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up, Major Character Death
Word Count/WIP?: 26945/ No
Additional Pairings: Chirrut Îmwe/Baze Malbus, Leia Organa/Han Solo, Shara Bey/Kes Dameron, Leia Organa/Luke Skywalker/Han Solo, Jyn Erso/Han Solo
Why This Must Be Read: I love this fic because it feels very much like the movie: Jyn and Cassian’s relationship is basically taken as a given with a lot of plot and action in a world where a war keeps on going, even as two people find themselves entwined in the midst of it. A poignant, engaging fic.
Cassian is half-awake. His clothes are bloody and partly shredded, and beneath them and the bacta Jyn can see scars that are healing and the distinctive marks of a torture droid, which are not. He looks thin and sunken and sick and he needs a shave. He also looks quite surprised to see Jyn; for a moment she isn’t even sure he recognises her. “Hello, Cassian,” Jyn says. Her tongue is crowded with words that won’t come out. She swallows them down. “Have a blaster.” She offers him the lighter of the blasters she stole, and he takes it with a familiar, easy grip that reassures Jyn that he’s still in there. “If this is a dream,” Cassian announces, swinging his legs off his bunk and staggering towards Jyn, “it is a beautiful dream.”
Rec #4: If you’re in the mood for a fantastic rendition of the soulmates trope...
Title: this is the fate you’ve carved on me
Author: Selkit
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9372218/chapters/21217277
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 17465 / Yes
Why This Must Be Read: I’m such a sucker for the soulmarks trope, and this author manages to pull it off in a way that feels so perfect for these characters and this film. I appreciate the author stays true to the essence of Rogue One, but isn’t afraid to adapt the film’s plot for the purposes of making this trope work. It builds an added layer of complication to an already complicated relationship and boy does it make for some fun and suspense and angst.
It occurs to her, very dimly in the back of her mind, that it would feel right to reach out and trace her fingers along the curving script, to see what her words feel like on his skin. She doesn’t.
Yet she does feel an odd sensation steal over her, like the not-quite-unpleasant ache in her shoulders after setting down a heavy load. It’s not relief, not entirely, but it’s something close.
Rec #5: If you’re in the mood for a fix-it, bed-sharing fic because hey this is rebelcaptain after all...
Title: we were secrets to keep
Author: mollivanders
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9352454
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 3270 / No
Why This Must Be Read: This fandom is chock-full of fix-it and bed-sharing fics but this is definitely one of the best. beautiful, flowing writing style that captures these two broken souls in such stark relief.
She's not sleeping, for one. Not sleeping well, at least, judging by the dark circles under her eyes and the way her shoulders are slumped.
His training also whispers to him that everything in her file suggests she's about to run, about to disappear, and he tries to shrug it off. (Still, the thought nags at him like an open wound.) So when she knocks at his quarters that night and slips inside, he doesn’t protest as she curls up next to him. She’s warm and solid against him, and he hasn’t been this close to her since Scarif. He doesn’t ask questions, and he drifts off listening to the sound of her shallow breathing, one pounding heartbeat at a time. (They’ll figure out the rest later.)
Rec #6: If you’re in the mood for a college AU...
Title: you might just go under
Author: andromeda3116
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9780254
Rating/Warning(s): Mature
Word Count/WIP?: 8076 / No
Why This Must Be Read: This is one of the best college AU fics out there. It captures that instant attraction between the two in a realistic way, and it features the rest of the Star Wars gang in a super fun way that truly does justice to all the characters.
Walking into the apartment (where, she could not stress this enough, she was supposed to be meeting two or three people for a study group after being on her feet all day behind the bar) was like walking unfortunately back in time, to the English department parties at Northeastern -- complete with the now-dated Lady Gaga music playing. Bodhi heaved a sigh when they walked through the door.
“I tried to wrestle the playlist away from Kay,” he said. “But he’s stronger than he looks.”
Rec #7: If you’re in the mood for an epic, action-packed fic that features the entire crew of Rogue One...
Title: floating, sinking
Author: shuofthewind
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9053302/chapters/20596522
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 135568 / Yes
Additional Pairings: Chirrut Îmwe/Baze Malbus
Why This Must Be Read: With alternating POVs, this fic is a beautiful homage to the entire crew of Rogue One. So if you want something that features Bodhi, Baze, and Chirrut in spades while still doing justice to the beauty that is Cassian and Jyn’s relationship, then read this. The action and plot are just as substantial and important as the romance. It basically reads like another movie, and runs through A New Hope.
Jyn looks at the bedspread. She’s still confined to the sickbay, even though she could walk. There are guards on the door, Rebels in helmets. She can’t make out their faces, but they stop her when she tries to leave. If she wanted she could take them both out and vanish, but Cassian is in the next bed over, still kept sedated, and Bodhi wanders in and out when he needs quiet in this noxious jungle prison, and Baze is—untethered, is the word she wants. Baze is untethered. Chirrut is still hovering somewhere between life and death, and Baze is lost in space for as long as the question remains. She cannot be their fixed point, not the way they want—she isn’t a leader, for all she dragged them into hell—but she sees no point in leaving when they cannot come with her yet.
Rec #8: If you’re in the mood for a hilarious modern-day take on the friends-with-benefits trope
Title: I’ll Be There For You
Author: caramelle
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9422429
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 4215 / No
Why This Must Be Read: This is one of the best modern-day takes on Jyn and Cassian I’ve read. It’s quite funny with Kay and Bodhi acting as kind of intermediaries or peacekeepers in Jyn and Cassian’s evolving friends-with-benefits relationship. This is such a delight to read, and characterizes Jyn and Cassian’s dynamic so wonderfully with her insecurities and his patient waiting.
Jyn scoffs. "I mean, at this point, they might as well just come out and say it to my face, right?" She drops her voice into a low imitation of Chirrut's stately drawl. "'Jyn — no one cares about your feelings.'"
Cassian snorts. "Well, to be fair," he says conversationally, "everyone's still on the fence about whether you actually have feelings."
Rec #9: If you’re in the mood for a historical AU...
Title: Resistance is Built on Hope
Author: ChronicOlicity
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9079141/chapters/20644807
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 117509 / Yes
Why This Must Be Read: This is the rebelcaptain WWII AU that you’ve been waiting for. The author has done a marvelous job of adapting all the elements and characters of Rogue One to this historical time period with great pacing, dramatic, action-packed scenes, touches of humor, and the most beautiful simmering romance between our favorite spy and unwitting rebel.
For Jyn, that was a measure of trust. A feral animal wouldn't let another see its wounds — Cassian knew that firsthand. Battlefield instincts powered Jyn, no question about it, fight-or-flight instincts drawn even closer to the surface than anyone else he’d seen before. Dangerous and unyielding and all the more compelling for it.
More than that, Cassian was beginning to see her hunger. Not the appetite that Kay was constantly complaining about, but a kind of visceral need, elemental and nearly irrepressible. Now and then he caught glimpses of it behind Jyn’s eyes, in the stubborn set of her shoulders, the flash of something — like the electric shock from a fleeting, triggered memory — when she was caught by a seemingly innocuous scene. A picture of a lone child. Two, three figures disappearing into the snow, without a backward glance. A plane taking off and vanishing into the sky. Pieces of a puzzle, and Cassian had them in his hands, but in many ways, Jyn Erso was still as much an enigma to him as she’d been the day they met.
Rec #10: If you’re in the mood for a glimpse of domesticity for these two...
Title: That Would Be Enough
Author: mosylu
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9272258
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 782 / No
Why This Must Be Read: Cassian and Jyn rarely get quiet moments, and this is a short but sweet look into them enjoying something approximating domesticity in the midst of the war. Well-written dialogue and bed-sharing FTW!
On Echo Base, Jyn and Cassian shared a bunk. Or to put it more accurately, they both had a bunk that they could sleep in on the rare occasions they were planetside, and it just happened to be the same one.
The both of them planetside together, at the same time, for more than a few hours (days, Jyn had said, awed, when they compared schedules, at least two, multiple) was like finding a kyber crystal rolling around on the snowfield outside.
Rec #11: If you’re in the mood for an EU fic set 20 years in the future during The New Republic...
Title: the road that sets into the sun
Author: lyin
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9268955
Rating/Warning(s): General
Word Count/WIP?: 5189 / No
Why This Must Be Read: This is a poignant look into what these two aged warriors would feel like in The New Republic. While it draws heavily on EU canon, it is not necessary to appreciate this beautiful rendering of how these two have given so much to the cause.
There are names written in the lines of his face. Jyn doesn’t even know them all, but she knows Cassian thinks they deserved to live more than him, that the universe plays games with the life of men. That Cassian has always thought he had a righteous cause, but has never thought himself a righteous man. That the cause is slipping from his grasp.
Rec #12: If you’re in the mood for a funny, fluffy one-shot...
Title: flight lessons
Author: ignitesthestars
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9276590
Rating/Warning(s): Mature
Word Count/WIP?: 1044 / No
Why This Must Be Read: Jyn is all kinds of sassy, and it’s such a delight to read. This is a hilarious look at another mission that almost went wrong and some lovely Jyn/Cassian and all of their feelings to boot!
“Ah,” she says, and the breath turns into a shriek of agony as white-hot pain lances through her body, and really, dying doesn’t seem like all that bad of an option right now. Except for the part where it will probably piss off Cassian and make K2 happy, and there’s a lot that Jyn is willing to do just to ruin that droid’s day.
Rec #13: If you’re in the mood for some seriously beautiful angst...
Title: where my caution should be
Author: rosaxx50
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9822866/chapters/22055765
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up, Major Character Death
Word Count/WIP?: 1237 / No
Why This Must Be Read: Poignant, heartbreaking, and oh-so-poetic. This shows the beauty of their connection post-Scarif while also demonstrating the natural consequences of war.
I am glad you're here with me, he says, or she says, or both. Their hearts beat in time, slow and restful.
The plans stream across countless stars. He chooses to believe, because she does, that somewhere, someone listens to the greatest difference he has ever made to the galaxy. Their names will turn to dust like their bodies, but this legacy will live on.
Rec #14: If you’re in the mood for sassy K-2SO...
Title: The Genre Does Not Support This
Author: nymja
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/8977609
Rating/Warning(s): Teen and Up
Word Count/WIP?: 990 / No
Why This Must Be Read: K-2SO being K-2SO while Cassian and Jyn must act like normal human beings without copious amounts of UST between them. Fluff and humor while everyone is still so in character FTW!
“I have decided to be proactive,” the droid responded primly.
“Proactive? For what?” Jyn leaned forward in her chair. “Sexual tension will increase mission failure by approximately 12.95%.”
Rec #15: If you’re in the mood for a tragic modern-day AU...
Title: Emergency Contact
Author: randomdreamer101
Link: http://archiveofourown.org/works/9541490
Rating/Warning(s): General
Word Count/WIP?: 3420 / No
Why This Must Be Read: Post-divorce, modern-day Cassian/Jyn is just as tragic and heartbreaking as you thought it would be. This is the last in a series, and I haven’t read the rest of the series yet, but this fic really captures brilliantly, how, even in a modern-day setting, Cassian and Jyn’s relationship has the potential to be very complicated and not at all easy.
“This is not exactly what I'd imagined meeting you again would be like," she says.
“What? You in critical care? Me holding back your hair while you vomit into a bin? What part of this scenario is lacking in romance?” Her mouth twitches. “The hair-holding was sort of romantic.” “Oh, I beg to differ," he says. “Well, I’ve always preferred life-threatening situations to flowers and chocolates.”
Originally Posted At: http://het-reccers.livejournal.com/1104941.html
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goron-king-darunia · 8 years ago
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goron-king-darunia
Cute perve Richter who is a shameless flirt. I did that with him in a fic I’m working on, but it’s just with Emil. XD Shy Tsundere is always a classic Richter, and it’s fun to see Shy Richter and Shy Emil just tripping over themselves trying to flirt with each other and not quite knowing how. I also love seeing many different Richters with many different twists. I love seeing other interpretations, even if they are so far off canon it’s almost not Richter. (I love the in-character canon stuff too, but sometimes it’s fun to see wildly different Richters.) I LOVE THAT COLETTE SEES RICHTER AS A FRIEND EVEN THOUGH HE KIND OF TRIED TO KILL HER. It’s also funny that we’re sharing this headcanon of such a non-judgmental Richter when his name literally means “judge”. Like, in-game, he only really judges Ratatosk and it’s because Ratatosk killed Aster. Other than that he’s pretty… chill and not too judgey. FOR REAL. The creators love to torture him. I would have loved for a cutscene where someone randomly mentions the Friendship Colonel nickname and then you later see him with that title. That would have been great. LOL, I have a friend who is very much like Richter and she actually once said to me “Sometimes I wonder why we even became friends.” And I just laughed so hard. (She later apologized but I still think it was funny and I agree that us becoming friends is so weird.) My friend group also had a moment where the Richter friend laughed and we all just… stared because “Holy shit, Richter friend has a sense of humor.” And this was before the game was even made! XD My friend is the original Richter. But I can see how having someone like Richter for a teacher would be kind of… a pain in the butt. XD
hannikka
YES, i didnt knew how to exactly explain it but this summarizes one of the reasons of why i love shy tsundere richter very much “ t’s fun to see Shy Richter and Shy Emil just tripping over themselves trying to flirt with each other and not quite knowing how” that is just adorable, and i would love to see shy tsunder richter when he was a child(i think we all would love to be able to see how richter looked as a kid)
i actually would like to see him being out of ginnungagap and colette approaching him in a familiar and very friendly way, and he would be like"what the hell is wrong with this child…?“, and colette would just talk to him as if they have been friends all their life, and as their conversation progresses richter understand less and less what is happening” she is far to happy to see me, is she even aware that i tried to kill her:..?“
i think the only people he judges harshly are, ratatosk, perhaps alba(i don’t remember very well T_T), and himself, but other than that, he is quite chill
there are some people you just wonder "how i befriended this person?” and they are usually quite lovely persons, i actually have a friend who blatantly was like"when we were childrens i disliked you quite alot :D", and i was not expecting that, and while my heart shattered i remember that i didn’t liked her either at that point in time XD, so late i said the same thing she said (as a random fact, not as a hurtful thing D:)and she(she  has bad memory)was"you…disliked me…in chilhood? T_T) and i was like"you sort of…admitted that last week? O_O", it turns out she didn’t remember it so my poor friend was quite sad, and so i had to reassure her that we were fine, if she was like a tales charachters, i think  she would be the lost daughter of richter and collete
YES. I would love to see Richter as a small child. Interacting with his parents. I would love to see, like the first 7 years of his life! Was he a fussy baby or a calm baby? Did he learn to walk and talk early, or was he a late bloomer? Did his mother make him cute knitted clothes or did they buy clothes? Did Richter’s dad make him toys and blocks? Did his mom and dad play tag with him? Did they have a family pet? Where did they live? Did Richter grow up in the city or the country or in the wilds? Was Richter a strong and manly boy who was very confident before going to Sybak or was he a shy mama’s boy who didn’t like anyone until Aster? Did his parents know he had bad eyesight or was Aster the first to notice? Did Richter run around and play a lot or was he more of a scholarly indoor child who liked to read and draw? Did he have a formal education or did his parents home school him? Did he even get schooling outside of Sybak at all? Did he ever have childhood friends? Did his mom and dad tuck him in at night? Did he need a nightlight to sleep? Did he have a teddy bear? Did he like blocks and wooden swords or was he more interested in stuffed animals and dolls (or both?) Did baby Richter suck his thumb? What was his first word? Richter’s parents supposedly died shortly before he wound up at Sybak. How did they die? Did they tell him to go to Sybak or did he go on his own? How did Richter learn how to fight with a sword and axe? He must have learned before Sybak because they wouldn’t give him weapons there. I also have adulthood questions. We know where he gets his glasses but where did he get his jacket and gloves? And where the hell did he learn his fashion sense? Clearly no one at Sybak dresses like that. What got him interested in meteorology? Did he ever think to bring his parents back when he made the deal with the demons to bring Aster back? What’s his favorite food, even though he can’t cook? Does he like herbs because they remind him of home? Does he prefer tea or coffee? (I think SO MUCH about Richter. I have so many questions. XD I guess that’s what’s fun about writing my own stories about him, but I would love some more details from the game. XD) I also just... have a deep and burning need to see a small innocent 4-7 year old Richter. Tiny baby boy. SHOW HIM TO ME BANDAI-NAMCO! SHOW ME! YESSSSS. Colette just talking to him like they have been friends since they were kids and giving him a cake like “Welcome back! You must be hungry! You’ve been gone a long time! Want to come sit down? Do you need somewhere to stay tonight?” Richter just... so confused and like “This is all very nice of you and I appreciate it but... do you even remember what I tried to do to you? I... I didn’t want to kill you exactly but... I tried to kill you for your Cruxis Crystal. Aren’t you, y’know, mad at me or scared of me?” Colette just being like “Nah, you’re not the first and I understand why you needed it! How about some clean clothes? I bet you haven’t had a nice bath lately! Want to go pet some dogs?!” I love Colette so much, she’s such a sweetie. XD Yep. Ratatosk, maybe Alba, and himself. With everyone else he’s more like “I find that specific behavior annoying and I would rather they didn’t but whatever. If it’s them it’s them.” Oh gosh. XD Colette and Richter would actually be a pretty cute couple~ XD They would have the sweetest kids. I still ship Colette and Lloyd, but if Colette was going to be with anyone else, Richter is a decent candidate. XD
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saltysodavevo · 8 years ago
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sorry
thanks for nothing. i came because you were my friend, not because i wanted to be lied to and hurt.
vent under the cut
I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. You ruined my life. I never want to see you again. It’s your fault. I hate you.
Yet I still choose to remember you.
Your name was Anna. You loved bananas. Rarity was your favorite pony. Neeky was your best friend. And I like to think that, at one point, I was too. You had a sister. Her name was Abby. She loved Disney. She loved Disney movies. Her life revolved around them. She loved to roleplay. She was your best friend, and you were hers.
We were so happy. There wasn’t a single moment when you weren’t happy and excited for something. Except-
When we had a fight. Yes, I remember. Exactly how it went.
I called myself a night owl. You got mad. That was Abby’s spirit animal. You told Abby, she got mad at me too. The rest is fuzzy, but you- You called me a whore. And you hurt me. You made me cry, for the first time. Though it certainly wouldn’t be the last.
We broke apart.
Later, we- we came back. When I told the truth about my name and age. You seemed to take it well. That was good. We were all friends again. We were happy. It was nice.
I was happy.
Until one day, you texted me out of the blue.
You told me that Abby died.
I was heartbroken, at a loss for words. I didn’t know what to say. I couldn’t find the right words. I didn’t know what to do. I cried, again. I was 9, 10 maybe. Naive. I believed it. You told me her friend would be on her account. I talked to “her friend”. I asked if they would sue.
“No, it wasn’t anyone’s fault, and besides, the camp was fun anyway.”
And I believed you.
I trusted you.
I was naive.
Last year, I reread the story Abby had wrote for you. For your birthday. The last words written were “maybe we should wake up,” spoken by one of two characters laying in bed, contemplating their next actions. I won’t lie. I teared up.
I spoke to you for the first time in years.
“hey
anna
uh
do you know where abby was going in her fanfiction for you?”
“Hm? Oh that! Sorry, I forgot all about it but.. no I.. actually have no idea.. I don't know if she's continuing it :c”
“ak
that sucks
i just finished reading it and
i was actually the one she trusted to proofread it
i feel like i should be the one to continue it
idk but
aaa
i wanna continue it but i don't know where she was going with it”
“She's busy right now, idk if she wants to continue it.. but I can see if she really really wants to, if not she'll probably just give it up to us! :D”
Color me confused.
I didn’t understand. I thought she had died.
I asked Neeky if she remembered.
“hey uh
idk if you talk to anna anymore but dont tell her i said this
didn't abby..die ??? i was asking her about the fnaf fanfiction and
hold on ill just send a transcript ig”
“she keeps saying it as if it never happened
and i just
im getting mixed messages
like
was she lying? is she talking about someone else who 'took abby's place'??? im honestly so fuck ing c o nf us ed
and im too much of a fucking wimp to ask her
there was such a huge boom about it when it happened
i remember she messaged me after it, she was upset as fuck and i mean i understood, i still do, her sister died and she got her phone and it was almost her birthday and i just aaa
but i dont
whats going on anymore im fu ckign”
“When did she supposedly die? Like a month or something?”
“wh
i
when we used to be the odd squad?”
“Lmao I worded that weird sorry like was it when school was still going”
“it was
camp
i think
yeah
and there was supposedly a big zipline over a waterfall with sharp rocks and abby wasn't secured properly
thats how i know it
i remember it like yesterday even, anna was so upset but im starting to think it was a lie i dont even fucking know anymore”
“Um,,,,, p sure she's not dead if Anna went to school as her normal self. Knowing anna, she would be so upset that she most likely wouldn't step out of her house?
That's when we still talked so she would've told me if she died and I don't recall she ever did?”
“have you seen abby around though?
she told me, i remember it, goddamn it
i think i still have the screenshot, even
im fucked up dude like what the fuck even
i,
he lp”
“Wait,,, idk if you remember but her dad was the vice principal of our middle school at the time. even he didn't take time off or something to mourn or attend a funeral or something of the sort.
Unless I somehow missed an entire period of my life”
“i have the screenshot but anna's wording it like it never happened and i dont understand i”
“Well I mean my point still stands. She didn't look any different while at school and when she texted me, she sounded as enthusiastic as she was before. Perhaps she lied?
And adding what you've said about how she talks, it doesn't really seem like something this tragic happened.”
So we confronted Anna about it.
“Hey anna”
“Ya?”
“uh
so
about abby”
“Ya..”
“didnt she...die? when i was talking to you about the fanfic you worded it all as if it never happened
‘ Hm? Oh that! Sorry, I forgot all about it but.. no I.. actually have no idea.. I don't know if she's continuing it :c’
‘ She's busy right now, idk if she wants to continue it.. but I can see if she really really wants to, if not she'll probably just give it up to us! :D’ “
“OH YEAAAAAAA
I thought I didn't tell you..
Sorry..
SHORT TERM MEMORY LOSS SUCKS”
“but”
“..?
Her friend took over her accounts, yah.”
“but neeky said when you went to school you seemed happy and chipper as usual and- wasnt your dad the vice principal or something
?
neeky said there wasnt any funeral or anything and i do nt
e ve ne
i mf ucke d u p”
“I.. really don't like talking about this”
So then Neeky asked:
“Like I wasn't even told about this until not too long ago,,,,
Um can you at least give me some info if this is real bc I didn't even know,,.,.,..,”
So then you left. And I tried to get in touch with you and ask what happened. Just- for any answer. Any smidge of an answer you had for me.
Nothing.
You were quiet.
Until you finally answered.
And tore my heart in pieces.
“I.. alright, yes, I did lie to you.. anyways.. I.. I'm really sorry but.. no, I'm not sorry.. let's just get this over with.
I can't be your friend.
You've lied to me and told me the truth but..
I really hate that because I gave so much of my friendship to you.
One of my good friends on Kik is going to talk to you, goodbye.”
I got a message.
I talked to your friend.
I was told to kill myself, that I hurt you, you’ll never forgive me, you hate me, you don’t want to be my friend, you don’t want to see me ever again.
I cried.
Again.
And now here we are.
Present day.
And I’m writing about you.
I guess there’s a reason we remember our most traumatizing moments.
I hate you.
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February 14th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on February 14th, 2019, from 5PM - 7PM PST.  The chat focused on Earth in a Pocket by Jabbage.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- THURSDAY BOOK CLUB START!
Good evening, everyone~! This week’s Thursday Book Club is officially beginning! Today we are discussing Earth in a Pocket by Jabbage~! (http://earthinapocket.spiderforest.com/)
Remember that Thursday discussions are completely freeform! However, every 30 minutes I will drop in OPTIONAL discussion questions in case you’d like a bit of a prompt. If you miss out on one of these prompts, you can find them pinned for the chat’s duration. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is fun and respectfully appreciating the comic. All that said, let’s begin!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
perhaps not a full scene, but im really fond of this page in general http://earthinapocket.spiderforest.com/comic/2019/01/22 where the socio economic development stuff is broken down. theres just something so elegantly simple about how its shown. not to mention i appreciate the injection of humor, because i think it makes everything really grounded.
Delphina
The badger page is perennially endearing (http://earthinapocket.spiderforest.com/comic/2018/08/11), but I also like the most recent one where Little One is encouraging Halisi to be proactive and set up some long-term solutions for herself: http://earthinapocket.spiderforest.com/comic/2019/02/05
RebelVampire
im really curious why she thought of badgers at all. unless she had the badgers badgers mushroom song stuck in her head. XD
Delphina
@Jabbage please make that canon
Jabbage
makes it so
(Hi! I'm going to be here for a little while! :D)
RebelVampire
thanks for coming, Jabbage!
Jabbage
I figure that if you're on a road trip with a small child who is prone to ask a billion questions, eventually you're going to end up talking about badgers
Delphina
I just really appreciate how even after all she's been through, Halisi still has so much love and passion for her studies, and it's what she reaches to when she's looking for ways to console Little One and solutions for herself.
Kabocha
Hmmm, my favorite scene probably was the Witch bottle explanation http://earthinapocket.spiderforest.com/comic/2018/08/15 It was a good bit of information I hadn't really been aware of :D I also just... enjoy her interactions with the little jellyfish - even though she's in a bad spot, she's still taking time to tell him stories.
RebelVampire
i like the element of logic there is to it too. like she's not panicking, but using what she loves to calm herself down in a way. and i think thats a really great showcase of her character without needing to be told shes like that.
its a characterization via the action versus the telling
mathtans
Here for now, the little one seems extra fussy tonight. Yes, I call my baby daughter the little one. So comic was a bit surreal.
RebelVampire
hi math!
at least your little one isnt old enough to ask yet "are we there yet?"
Kabocha
Right? I mean, she could have just given in, accepted that she might die here... But nah. And she's still kind, even though this entire situation is awful
mathtans
The Witch bottle thing reminds me, I liked the way the art moved through the centuries on that one page, but with people who looked kinda similar. I thought that was clever.
True. Little one could save us some time by specifying what her issues are though. ^.^
RebelVampire
ironically though another of my favorite scenes is the one where halisi sets up the signal and kind of ditches her new jellyfish child to just go despairingly collapse in front of it. i like this brief moment of her giving into despair cause theres something really raw about it. like at first she doesnt say anything even, and i think it makes it really powerful because the silence just adds this immense weight to the sorrow. you know shes super suffering for that moment and feeling the weight of everything finally hit her.
Delphina
Yeah, the comic does a good job of showing a lot of conflicting emotions(edited)
mathtans
Yeah, honestly the very opening was a heck of a kick in the pants. Like, I have no idea what I'd do in that sort of situation. It's very problematic.
RebelVampire
yeah theres def a lot of stressful situations. but i kind of appreciate the lighter moments. like her trying to start a fire but ultimately failing. i mean its kind of scary and sad for her survival, but the way its handled is still pretty funny
also that moment where shes trying to fix the machine at the beginning and it just flat out basically bursts into flames XD
Jabbage
I'm pleased to hear that! I'm always aware that it could be quite a bleak story, but I want it to ultimately feel hopeful and positive, so the silly moments are important for that!
kayotics
I also liked the badger scene, but I think the scene that had the most prominence for me is when she finds out that someone else landed on the planet 80 years ago
i think that scene really set in how dire her situation is
khkddn
the portrayal of emotions really is great. it's really interesting to see someone going through such a crisis and only surrounded by beings who can't relate at all
Delphina
Oh god yeah, and the aliens just going "Something happened to the human we don't know what cause death isn't a thing that happens here???" was scary.
kayotics
"it's hibernating!"
G (Title Unrelated)
I felt something in the scene right after where they tell her dad "we haven't heard from her yet"
Delphina
collective tentacle shrug
kayotics
yeah i really feel for her dad
this isn't a scene, but I appreciate that all of the characters are middle-aged or older
RebelVampire
agreed. but i appreciated the realism of the ppl on the other line being like "meh its probably fine my dude" to the dad. cause that really uses reader knowledge to an advantage to create sympathy for him. because we know its not fine, and that he is right to worry. and that makes it sad hes the only one worried in that moment.
G (Title Unrelated)
Yes I agree
kayotics
Also agreed. It's a good example of dramatic irony
RebelVampire
although i like the most recent page with the followup where hes basically enlisted an army of students to find her. abuse of power, probably. but makes him the sweetest dad? yes.
QUESTION 2. Much of the comic revolves around Halisi telling stories based on things in her pocket. Which of Halisi’s stories impacted you the most and/or taught you something new? What do you think is to be gained from Halisi telling these stories to an alien race with no real connection to humanity? How do you believe the stories and knowledge she has might help contextualize her current situation for her? What, to you, does it mean to have “Earth in a Pocket?” Further, if you were in Halisi’s position, what objects would you pick in 10 seconds to represent the sum of human existence? Lastly, what other cultural or past history aspects do you think Halisi might bring up? How might they be contextualized to add a new viewpoint to Halisi’s situation?
Delphina
I liked the Dancing Plague story a lot http://earthinapocket.spiderforest.com/comic/2018/08/06
RebelVampire
this is the point where i say the witch bottle scene. I think it was beautifully illustrated, and as a story it was not a cultural thing i was aware of. but i like how suitable and unsuitable it was for the situation. but overall it just made me think about humans are weird and can make fear out of nothing at all if the minds decide it to be so.
unless the plot twist is there really was a witch in that bottle
ive always found the dancing plague fascinating because again, humans be weird. minds play tricks.
khkddn
the witch bottle scene is kind of like a story about the power of storytelling, pretty fitting i think
the idea of a witch meant so much to people, like how halisi's stories mean so much to the jellies
G (Title Unrelated)
so she's got a single seed, too, which is also super symbolic
kayotics
I really like the agriculture story, because, like it was mentioned before, it was very concise, but also it shows a lot about Halsi's personality and what she thinks is important about understanding humans on a basic level
mathtans
Back. Know what you can't do when you have a little one? Have a life sometimes. >.<(edited)
G (Title Unrelated)
I wonder what kind of seed it is
RebelVampire
oh man what if the seed wasnt even food. like she winds up growing a rose bush or something XD
mathtans
I was going to say, one of my fave moments was actually comedy, when Halisi first goes off with the inhabitants, thinking about ditching them, and they're all "we can see the thoughts".
RebelVampire
i appreciate the jellyfish didnt just ditch her at that point. cause i would not be as forgiving as them XD
mathtans
And yeah, the hope and sudden crash of the human who was there before was powerful too.
Delphina
I hope it's like... a nice fruit tree. She seems like she could use a nice fruit tree.
mathtans
The framing of the witch bottle scene was cool too. With the whole "not helping me be less afraid" thing (and asking for that term).
kayotics
i just really like the little jellyfish aliens, because they're written in a way that's much less human-centric. I like aliens that are just kind of weird for being weird and don't follow human conventions.
mathtans
Though props for the "pot-reon" in the agriculture bit too.
RebelVampire
yeah im really appreciating the jellyfish for that reason. theyre a nice blend between humanistic traits while still being super alien. its always nice to see when theres kind of a basic gap of understanding where the way each species thinks is quite different
anyway, for me personally though, while she does literally have some of earth in her pocket, i think earth is more about the stories that have traveled with her. because oral traditions reach immensely far back and is the main platform by which we teach and learn about ourselves as a species. so imo they are more representative of humanity than the objects. thus how she can fit earth in a pocket, even though she doesnt need the pocket.(edited)
G (Title Unrelated)
Yeah, I think you nailed it!
mathtans
Also, random question/thought. Halisi didn't have to dig too deep to get "well" water (I liked that one too)... yet was able to bury a guy? The water must be specific to locations or something?
Agreed on the alien-ness people have been speaking about.
G (Title Unrelated)
I mean it's an alien planet
mathtans
Good point about the traditions, Rebel. She's her own pocket.
It helps that she mostly just has to think things rather than even speak them aloud too.
Jabbage
AHAHA yeah, I realised that after drawing it. It's on a list of things i might tweak one day, although I do also like the idea that it is just an alien planet and it's strange and unpredictable like that. So much of our own planet would seem strange and random if we didn't understand a little bit about it's geology, the water cycle etc.
kayotics
on that note i like the idea of halsi going around trying to find ground that doesn't immediately fill up with well water
"okay let's try this spot. Hm, nope, that filled up. can't bury him here"
G (Title Unrelated)
haha!
RebelVampire
yeah it didnt particularly stick out to me just cause i wrote it off as like a change in elevation or something like that. but basically alien planet does alien things XD
mathtans
Fair point.
Could just drag dirt over from another place too, though I guess it would be raised more then.
kayotics
I think if it needs to be tweaked in the future, Jabbage, you could always just change it to a mound rather than a hole. same concept but it avoids going below the dirt
mathtans
Fixes the w"hole" thing.
G (Title Unrelated)
also digging a hole IS hard work
Jabbage
Yeah, or using rocks
kayotics
digging is a lot of work
mathtans
Also whistling while you use rocks, to get rock music.
I'll stop.
kayotics
if she plants that seed she may have to make a mound for that too, it would probably get too waterlogged otherwise
mathtans
I wonder if the soil has the right nutrients.
RebelVampire
yeah i was thinking that too
that her next challenge is finding a not well spot for that seed
cause unless its a crop that specifically needs to be waterlogged, shes gonna have a bad time
mathtans
The jellyfish said the mushrooms could talk, right? Maybe they know a place.
Does rice have seeds?
G (Title Unrelated)
I think if the planet has breathable air it might have a similar balance of elements and whatnot to earth?
kayotics
i think most rice is planted from splitting an existing plant, but i'm sure there's a seed that starts it all
Delphina
What do the jelly aliens taste like
kayotics
DELPHIE NO
Delphina
MAYBE THEY GROW BACK OR SOMETHING
Jabbage
Whether or not the mushrooms can talk is a fun thing that's not really ever going to get expanded on, but which I had in mind for how the jellies work. I figure that they don't have many ways of getting external sensory information about the world - no eyes, ears, sense of smell etc. They are psychic though, they share thoughts and ideas and information about the world. I figure that the mushrooms have some kind of consciousness and run through the planet, and the jellies can draw from that somehow to orientate themselves and know what's going on
G (Title Unrelated)
that's what I kinda assumed!
I mean, that is basically how forests work on earth. XD
RebelVampire
so basically the mushrooms can function as gps
Jabbage
@Delphina ~ I mean I'm sure Big One has some spare limbs... ~(edited)
mathtans
Oh, wow. Cannibalism-like issue didn't occur to me.
Jabbage
Me neither honestly
mathtans
I think the jelly was a bit broken and said she'd regenerate over time...?
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Story wise, the comic deals with Halisi crash landing on an alien planet and all but being stranded. Do you believe Halisi will learn to farm with the little she managed to salvage and find a way to survive? What obstacles might prevent such an excursion on the planet? How will Halisi deal with the obstacles? Further, how do you think Halisi will deal with managing her mysterious illness, and what is she sick with for that matter? How might her actions be hindered or helped by the native alien life? In what ways do you think her actions will change how the alien life lives their own lives? Finally, do you believe that Halisi will be rescued at some point? If so, how will this come about?
mathtans
I like the mushroom consciousness idea.
RebelVampire
i do think the jelly child said as such.
G (Title Unrelated)
Q3: These are... all questions I have, myself. XD
mathtans
That illness thing is probably the immediate concern. Withdrawal itself is an issue, whether the pills were life saving or not
G (Title Unrelated)
I was wondering if they were antidepressants or something
RebelVampire
yeah for all the optimism in this plan, the pills are gonna be problematic. but i did wonder if they were antidepressants
khkddn
the flashback scene after she takes her last pill makes it seem to me like she was waiting for medical test results
kayotics
it's also a future time, so it could be a pill that prevents a life threatening disease from spreading.
mathtans
That's a good thought. The whole not accomplishing anything in her life is pretty bleak. Maybe that's a symptom.
G (Title Unrelated)
oh I didn't realize that scene was about her somehow
kayotics
my hope is that she's rescued well before she even needs to worry about this single plant producing any viable food options, since even if the plant grows, it's not likely going to sustain her
G (Title Unrelated)
yeah exactly
RebelVampire
not to mention depending on what plant it is it could take forever to grow. plant growth really varies a lot from crop to crop
kayotics
as for the pills, it seems like her illness has a vague timeline. Like a degenerative disease or something cancerous.
G (Title Unrelated)
P.s., I want some rainbow space maize.
RebelVampire
yes i second this
rainbow space maize for everyone
mathtans
It's a maize-ing.
khkddn
a few pages after she takes the pill she wonders "why are red pills better stimulants" and the pill she took was red. but then again if it were antidepressants i would expect a flashback that looked more like a therapists office than a doctor with results
Jabbage
Oh gosh I don't want to interrupt all the amazing discussion about Halisi's mysterious malady but I was so pleased to find out that there's actually multicoloured corn like that
I thought I made it up for a gag but it's reaaaaaal
kayotics
i have the link, if you'd like it
khkddn
oh i love the corn page
kayotics
https://www.sciencealert.com/this-rainbow-corn-is-the-coolest-way-to-eat-your-veggies (rainbow corn)
mathtans
It wasn't too corny.
kayotics
Honestly? corn, rice, and wheat would all be things I'd say should be brought to an earth colony.
G (Title Unrelated)
yeassssst. XD
unless there's naturally occurring yeast.
Man, we don't even know what it would be like to visit another living planet
RebelVampire
if we have rainbow corn, clearly were meant to go into space right now.
thats a good catch with the red pill, @khkddn
i actually hadnt paid attention to the pill color
mathtans
As to the question of Halisi being rescued, I foresee two possible outcomes. First, that she's found still alive, and she's learned enough about the planet natives to further space research or something, or second, that she's found dead, but the natives were so taken by her stories that her name will live on forever in the history books of first contact.
G (Title Unrelated)
I didn't associate the pill color musing with her situation but maybe it IS related!
RebelVampire
though i leave it open shes on some sort of mental health related medicine, i do feel its more likely its a degenrative disease of some sort. cause it makes her wanting to go to space make more sense. cause i feel its one of those things where youd be more willing to do it if you knew that you had a shorter time than most to live
math no, that second one is too dark
XD
although not implausible
khkddn
if halisi is not reunited with her dad at some point i'll be so sad
or at least they speak to each other
Delphina
Yeah, I'm just gonna say I don't think Halisi's gonna make it back to Earth. I think we're probably looking at a "she finds peace and purpose with the remaining time she has" situation.
RebelVampire
im gonna believe in the rescue efforts cause her dad seems to be a determined dude. and tbf they probably know her flight path so unless she was super duper off course they can probably guess a reasonable area she might be.
mathtans
I don't know that it's necessarily dark... it's kind of a happy end, just not for Halisi.
Also, maybe the pills help her speak. But that's a thing she won't need with the jellys.
I do think that receiving a message from an 80 year old spacecraft is probably something worth investigating.
RebelVampire
thatd be mighty convenient. tho in some au shed get so used to the psychic stuff shed go back to live among humans and be like "oh shit thats right they cant just see my mind pictures"
mathtans
That's an interesting point, about readapating to civilization.
Crazy theory time: Eating the mushrooms constantly ends up turning her into a jelly-creature. When the humans arrive, they won't recognize her.
RebelVampire
i do think shell have some affect on the jellies though. cause i think at the very least shes gonna teach them the important of oral traditions and theyll start telling their own stories and collectively grow as a species. i think shes really setting the jellies on the path for this.
LOL
i was thinking earlier about what if the mushrooms are semi psychic cause thats what happens to the jellies when they die
they dont die and just come back as the mushrooms
mathtans
Ooooh, that'd be an interesting twist.
Like maybe Halisi gains some psychic powers too.
(Though we may have ended up back at cannibalism...)
G (Title Unrelated)
not to shoot down anyone's fun speculation, but it doesn't seem like that kind of story, tbh. XD
kayotics
haha
we don't even know if the jellies can die i mean, I'd think they would, since they apparently come into existence somehow
mathtans
Also they haven't overrun the world.
kayotics
maybe theyre very slow at growing
or they just become the water
G (Title Unrelated)
slow-growing seems very likely
mathtans
I figure before they die they just kind of stop transmitting. Maybe run off somewhere. So no one is aware.
(Maybe they're like lemmings?)
G (Title Unrelated)
(that is not how lemmings work, sorry. XD)
mathtans
(I would worry if lemmings could read my thoughts.)
G (Title Unrelated)
(the suicidal lemmings myth was created by disney)
mathtans
shakes fist at mouse
G (Title Unrelated)
(or did you mean something else lol)
mathtans
I free associate. I mean what you want me to mean.
RebelVampire
yeah ive been wondering if the jellies are immortal. although ya know what, we have immortal jellyfish on earth so thats not that ridiculous to imagine.
kayotics
man, jellyfish are messed up
mathtans
There can be only one! hands out swords
kayotics
i can only imagine that the Jellies in earth in a pocket feel the same too. I was able to touch the bell of a couple at an aquarium once and man, that was a weird feeling
G (Title Unrelated)
I've been watching PBS Eons on youtube, I wonder if they've done one about the origins of cnidarians yet...
RebelVampire
honestly im putting money on immortal just cause they didnt even know what death was. unless they do die and just dont understand the hibernating jellies are never coming back
QUESTION 4. One topic resounding throughout the comic is humanity connecting to the past while also embracing the future and expanding. In what ways do you think reconnecting with humanity’s origins have changed Halisi on a personal level? How might they continue to change her? Why do you think Halisi so strongly believes in bringing the past to humans as humanity expands into space? In what ways do you think she’ll think it will help humanity as a whole? How might Halisi’s experiences on this new alien planet change the way she thinks about humanity’s past? How might it change how she conveys humanity’s past to other humans? Overall, what do you believe the story has to show us in regards to balancing the past, the future, and why both are needed?
G (Title Unrelated)
immortal jellies make for a good contrast to Halisi's fears of her own mortality
mathtans
They can be injured though, like the one who had a thing fall on it. It'd suck to be immortal that way.
RebelVampire
that is true. and contrasts like that are good.
Jabbage
(imma point out, Little One also notes that they're going to get better one day, although Halisi is a bit incredulous about that)
mathtans
The connecting to the past thing makes me think of that society. Which didn't seem to have a lot of members. Also, it took them, what, ten years to decide on things? (I was amused by "say that to my face" because, um, I think that's what the person is doing.)
Delphina
Totally saying, if I had a bunch of tentacle arms that would grow back and my weird human buddy was dying, I'd let her eat a couple to survive.
G (Title Unrelated)
I assume their tentacles don't have stingers. XD
RebelVampire
for me itd depend on how fast theyd grow back. cause if i had to spend like 500 years waiting for tentacle arms to grow back, that doesnt sound pleasant
mathtans
If so, they must have turned the stingers off to crawl around on her.
RebelVampire
they probably wouldnt have stingers cause their planet seems peaceful. like none of the jellies are like "oh no predators who will destroy us" so theres no need for their evolutionary track to lead to stingers in so far as i can see
kayotics
in response to the question: There's a lot of parallels to humans expanding to other planets and our own planet's history of colonization. There's a lot of cultural pain that comes with leaving your home and leaving your country (whether by force or by choice), and reconnecting to that cultural heritage is something that decedents often go through to feel like they belong in the world. I can see that being a driving point for delivering some of these artifacts to other planets.
G (Title Unrelated)
IRL Jellies mostly use their stings for catching prey?(edited)
Delphina
Do we even know if they feel pain?
mathtans
Wait, do they eat?
khkddn
they seem to have difficulty understanding when a human is unhappy or feels pain
kayotics
they might not need to eat in the same way
they might just kind of absorb what they need
Jabbage
I'm not sure it's going to come up specifically, but I think they probably dont' feel pain like we feel it? Just because i don't think they have the same sensory capabilities. Little One is frustrated that they can't move around as fast as the others, but I don't think they're in pain as such
G (Title Unrelated)
yeah. I was thinking about the Question and I think... it's interesting how it's framed as this thing where they've decided the colonists NEED this, but like, they can't agree on what's actually important
mathtans
Maybe Halisi will make a tiny scooter for Little One.
G (Title Unrelated)
I think it's the stories, not the objects, that are important.
And like... All stories are important???
RebelVampire
i think that is true, that all stories are important. cause stories are subjective and whats personally important to one person isnt important to someone else
kayotics
i think a few cultural trinkets to go with the stories can help, like... like I remember being a kid and my family having a christmas wooden carousel from germany or something, which is where my family emigrated from, so it was like "oh that's my people" I think having something to connect to some of the stories is important.
RebelVampire
thus why its worth preserving them all and no agreeance is needed really. because any single story can have an affect on someone
Jabbage
@kayotics I really like your point about our history of colonization, and it's something that I've tried to be careful with and approach thoughtfully, because I think that IS a driving factor in Halisi wanting to share people's cultural heritage with them. One of the things that sparked this story is thinkign about how current issues with repatriating cultural objects and deciding who has control over them would translate into a world where we don't even all live on the same planet any more
Delphina
The beginning showed that humanity has VR technology to "experience Earth", but it's several very comfortable degrees apart. I like that normally, being so advanced would make the hardships of the very distant past feel less real (just vaguely amusing/educational) But having Halisi have to figure out how humans lived and survived kind of brings that back and grounds her in a way that establishing Cookie Cutter Terraform Colony Number 14792 wouldn't.(edited)
So in that sense, the physicality of it is important
RebelVampire
i do think @kayotics has a point. especially in this story because of that vr scene where they were touring the roman thing. cause its not like they dont already have stories and ways to view historical things. and the actual objects can really tie that together. but i also think the stories are just as important via the scene where theyre shown to be able to print 3d objects. in essence the object means nothing without the story, but the story is made more powerful by the object. its a symbiotic relationship in a way.
kayotics
I'm glad it's something you've thought about!
I can't help but think about how colonization has affected the planets that the humans have landed on, and how it'll effect the planet that Halisi has landed on as well, no matter how small.
G (Title Unrelated)
I was thinking about that, too!
mathtans
Maybe she'll want it purged from the records to preserve it. And since Dad was just using grad students, he can oblige.
Jabbage
I thought long and hard about what race to make my astronaut because when they were a random white academic, the whole thing had a very different feel. Landing on some planet and educating the rather silly native denizens. I also wanted someone who grew up around the earliest archaeology created by anatomically modern humans so it made sense to make her black and from South Africa anyway
but then I'm white and British and so... yeah, I've basically had a lot to think about and juggle on that one
mathtans
Jabbage: Well, damn. I hadn't considered that, but you make a good point.
At least she's not building churches and asking the jellys to worship.
Incidentally, speaking of growing up, I liked the flashback image with her and dad looking youthful.(edited)
RebelVampire
im interested in the idea of who has control over the cultural objects we deem important, especially in regards to technology. because the comic touched on it a bit with the 3d printing and it really starts getting into the ship of Theseus issues of identity for those objects
mathtans
"Fax me your statue. No, I'm not paying you for it, I'll display it on Planet X for the Xposure."
Jabbage
And is seeing a reproduction ever 'the same?;
Even if it's identical in every way?
mathtans
Probably not, which is why they haven't figured out teleporters.
kayotics
if it's identical in every way i feel like maybe it is the same
but... wait maybe not
mathtans
Just to sum, pretty grand scale for this one, and a powerful beginning. Here's to Halisi and the Jellies.
Sounds like a strange band name.
RebelVampire
see its a really interesting philosophical question to explore. is whether cultural significance relies on the exact object or if we can transfer that as humanity spreads into the stars
mathtans
(I wonder if we'll learn more about jelly civilization.)
G (Title Unrelated)
Also, what stories do we remember or forget...
kayotics
I feel like there's something to be said about the energy that we as humans put into things. Like there's something there in the reverence we give something. like when you see a giant statue that's been prayed to vs a huge statue to commemorate someone, those have different feelings.
RebelVampire
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April 12th, 2018 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on April 12th, 2018, from 5PM - 7PM PDT.  The chat focused on The Robonoid Fan by Mharz.
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY START!
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning~! Today we are discussing The Robonoid Fan by Mharz~! (http://robonoid.mharz.com/) For those new or in need of a reminder, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer, and you can pay them no mind if you wish. If you miss out on any though, they’ll be pinned for the duration of the chat once they’re posted~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! As a bonus, each chat a top comment will be picked and featured in the archives and on an ad for CTP! All that being said, let’s get started and have a great discussion!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
snuffysam
The end is probably my favorite part. It's a sad ending, but it really shows how Meirin was able to change, and Shin wasn't.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i....i didnt even get to pin it before you replied
✨Respheal✨
snuffy was READY
🌟Draco Plato🌟
I liked seeing Meirin at work in the beginning, it reminded me of how fun interacting with customers was
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i liked the illustration for the end. there was something really melancholy about the composition
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
YO IS IT TIME FOR A MHARZ COMIC TO BE IN A CTP?
StickFreeks
I liked the ending too! It was a neat twist, I really wasn't expecting it.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yeah the ending was pretty good
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Oooh, boy. I HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT MY FAVORITE SCENE IN THIS I agree, it's the end scene. AAAAAAAAAAA Shin. Shin. Booooooooooooooooi. I was SO glad Meirin didn't respond in the affirmative for Shin. He was kind of a butt. I mean, he had potential for growth, but clearly didn't. AND I'm really honestly curious who the person he <Spoilered> was to him, and what relation they had. I wanna know!! But Shin, that doesn't... excuse anything.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
@draco meirin at work reminded me more of the parts of work where professionally jealousy is concerned even though your rivals are also your friends cause work politeness or something
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Also I read the epilogue in the book and let me tell you I felt so much better after reading it but also Shin never changes let me tell you
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Can i just say Shin has really nice hair
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
(OK, yes he does, but only when forced by circumstance)
StickFreeks
I had the idea that he got fired / replaced by somebody and that's what the drama was that led to his actions.
🌟Draco Plato🌟
@Rebel yeah there was that aspect of it too~
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
THAT SAID -- I also kind of wanted to see the two of them get together up until that last scene.
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i thought shin needed therapy XD
son plz calm down
✨Respheal✨
@StickFreeks I agree: http://robonoid.mharz.com/comic/56
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Ahaha. Oh, I Thought that was the case, but was the replacement the same person that caused him to get arrested?
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Damn adults.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i think it is implied its the same person maybe
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
And poor Shin, all the hell he goes through
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i mean its the logical conclusion to make
StickFreeks
I think he deserved his end, I didn't really feel bad for him.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
my favorite was merin watching robonoid, i'm sucker for that henshin stuff(edited)
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i liked that too delta
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i have to agree that was my fave scene. i liked watching meirin get legit excited about it and i liked she changed her opinion on the show just being for kids
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yeah, it's pretty cute
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Meirin is adorable, though
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
@Kabo (I know right?)
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
henshin shows can get fuckin dark, like garo and the OG kamren rider, they aint just for kids
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yus she is adorable~
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
^^^^^
Delta's right
StickFreeks
I couldn't tell if Shin was emulating Robonoid's hair or if they just had the same hair, but I was convinced that he was the "real" Robonoid for a good while.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hahaha i thought that too. that shin was like the va or something and thats what he did for work XD
🌟Draco Plato🌟
same
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
he was probably emulating it, i know if i could wear a kamen rider helmet everyday i would
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
kek
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
gotta represent your favorite stuff
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yus
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
^^^
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I dunno, Shin was pretty rich. I think he WAS the actor. :3
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
maybe he was, we could ask mharz later
StickFreeks
I thought he was blowing all his money after getting fired. XD
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i partly assumed his emulation was a representation of his fragile mental state. cause i feel shin desperately wanted to be the hero and not the bad guy. so gotta emulate a hero to reflect that
🌟Draco Plato🌟
same rebel
✨Respheal✨
Yeah
🌟Draco Plato🌟
he may have been rich in that he knew he was probably going to go to jail soon too
so just spent it up
✨Respheal✨
I was just thinking that he was trying to "take justice into his own hands, like a hero" and didn't have the adult recognition of where to draw the line(edited)
StickFreeks
I'm still unsure why he had the intent to kill somebody- like I know his "motive", but it seems unreasonable that he'd do something like that after trying to protect the kid.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That seems fair
🌟Draco Plato🌟
super heroes don't generally kill people either
so it is a bit out of character perhaps
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
well monster die in the end of henshin shows, maybe he saw them as the monster
🌟Draco Plato🌟
altho he also was obsessive and crazy
oh that could be delta
StickFreeks
It makes for a good story, I just wish that there was some more build up or representation of him getting to that line
outside of "adults are terrible"
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
like every episode the monster explodes once they've been beaten
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Pretty much
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yeah i agree stick(edited)
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
yeah it did come outta now where for me
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i think as a reader I felt a biiit too detached from Shin to grasp his whole character picture
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
If memory serves, Mharz did note that this story was started in 2011 -- so it's an older work!
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
since were seeing things though merin, we didn't really get everything about shin
StickFreeks
I think I was most confused by why he asked Meirin to "wait for him", since it seemed like they had just been friends for at most a couple of weeks
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i didnt find him killing unreasonable. partly 1 because we have the phrase crime of passion for a reason. even the most reasonable ppl can do dumb crap if theyre angry enough. and i think part of shin's character is that hes a hypocrite. so of course as a hypocrite hes going to do contraditory things.
yeah i have to say i was confused on the time scale here
StickFreeks
That's very true, he did have that "unexpected crazy", I just wish it was shown more. XD
Or in more drastic ways, anyway
✨Respheal✨
Hmm, I wonder why he was going by an alias the whole time
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
especially for when shin committed the crime. thats the only wrench i see in the victim being the guy who replaced shin. cause from shin's words it sounded like itd happen after he met meirin. but then why was shin there in the first place when he could probably afford a much better place to live?
✨Respheal✨
Might he have done things before?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Hnngh, IDK if the guy that Shin got arrested about was his replacement
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
merch can cost a lot rebel
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
it can but at that point, priorities man XD priorities
🌟Draco Plato🌟
also girl not going to wait for your ass shin, she knew you a month tops, you weren't even dating, and you going to jail for life
StickFreeks
Yeah seriously XD
🌟Draco Plato🌟
also still wondering if he drugged her
when he brought her back from the restaurant
ruffies are a thing
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Can... I talk about the epilogue?
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
god that be fucked if so
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
or is that TOO spoilery?
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i don't see why not kabo
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
AHAHAHHAA I wish Mharz was here XD
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i do too
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
but lemme tell you -- Meirin continues to keep her common sense.
🌟Draco Plato🌟
wait where's the epilogue
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I think, short of spoiling it. That's the best I can say.
It's in print only atm
🌟Draco Plato🌟
awwwww
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
OH WAIT
https://gumroad.com/l/robonoid-epilogue
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
OMGG
StickFreeks
Oh yay! Thanks!
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
OH SHIT
🌟Draco Plato🌟
omg did he date rape her
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
It's 10 years later. I would say it's worth it. It's $2, but y'all should throw some money at Mharz
and JUST READ IT JUST... READ IT NOW
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
AAAHHHH
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
It's very cute and lemme tell you, again, Meirin continues to keep her common sense and I love her so much.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I need to get this
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
im glad meirin doesnt go on some i hate adults spree and realizes responsibilites are indeed a thing
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I think having to actually worry about paying rent is kind of important XD
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yus
StickFreeks
I gotta drop out a bit early but this was fun! :D See ya!
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
see ya
🌟Draco Plato🌟
bye stick~!
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Bye!
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
thanks for coming stick~!
maybe the dating scene sucks where meirin lives. so she waits cause otherwise eww has to date oldman bankerman or something XD
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Ahahahahaha oh dear.
🌟Draco Plato🌟
well did he not go to jail for murder then?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Oh no he definitely did
🌟Draco Plato🌟
but he gets out 10 years later?
that'd be a super short murder sentence
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
good behavior maybe?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Well, I guess that'd depend on your lawyer
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Hmmm
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
and also the story's set in the Phillipines, so it might be slightly different depending on circumstance
🌟Draco Plato🌟
maybe, but geezus
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
oh gosh, what if Shin's crime was an accident
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
also I GOT THE EPILOUGE
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 2. At the end of the comic, Shin, whose real identity is revealed to be Manuel Robles, is arrested under the suspicion of murdering an Intelligence Communications employee named Sid Simon. Do you think Shin actually committed the crime? If yes, what do you think his motive was? If no, why do you think Shin is the primary suspect (and will his innocence be proven)? Given Shin’s leanings on hating adults who lie, why do you think Shin himself was so willing to commit such a huge lie? What do you foresee in general for Shin’s future and will he reflect upon his time with Meirin?
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
It's SO HEARTWARMING
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
RIGHT, JUSTIN?! I told you, Meirin keeps her goddamn sense!
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
YESSSS
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
honestly, that murder thing was a huge left turn for me, i had no idea that was going to be a thing and i'm still a little confused on it
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Also -- OMG, I think Shin DID commit the murder, although maybe it might have been manslaughter. He was hiding and scared before he got arrested. Even if he was an asshole with violent tendencies, I have a hard time thinking the act was actually premeditated.
also tbh I was kind of hoping it was the neighbor kid's mom but well. No, that wasn't the case.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
im leaning towards he did the murder. though i am 100% in the it was a crime of passion category. cause shin seems pretty explosive in general. so i could see him seeing some shady stuff going on him being like "that asshole murders oh whoops."
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
"Oops, I punched this guy and he hit his head on the floor the wrong way"
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that being said, despite thinking that the victim was who replaced him, i actually think the motive was different. that shin confronted him over something else entirely
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
"it was the stairs, i swear officer"
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Well considering how triggered Shin got...
✨Respheal✨
I'm just hung up on the question of why he was using a fake name in the first place
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Only with Meirin, though
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
maybe to be cool
✨Respheal✨
Maybe
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Wait
How old even is Shin?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
28
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
oh wow
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i didn't understand why he didn't resist arrest
and was just sitting there basically waiting
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Guilty conscience!
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
he wanted to be a hero, justice came to his door, what kinda hero would run from justice
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I think Shin probably was like "yeah well, I'm boned"
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
yea
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah that is one that bugs me. why the fake name? and also why was he so....different when meirin showed up? like for a moment i thought he was undercover
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yeeeah
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Ahahahaha
🌟Draco Plato🌟
how was he different?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Maybe Shin gave acquaintences a fake name so he wouldn't get bugged
🌟Draco Plato🌟
she said he was different but i kept flipping back and forth like is it the shirt
he looks the same
or did she just mean his personality
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
she meant his personality
cause he wasnt all angry
with his furrowed brows
🌟Draco Plato🌟
but everyone's got different mood days
so it didn't strike me as that weird
(edited)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
it struck me as weird cause that was the first time seeing it. so if i was meirin i wouldve been like this is weird the first time. if it happened again okay whatever, different mood
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i wonder why going to jail mellowed him out
did he smoke a bowl before she showed up
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
shin mightve just chilled some cause he was going to confess to meirin. ya know, without telling her hes a dirty, dirty murderer
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Or his real name
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
This
Also I finally decided to jump to the middle of the story
🌟Draco Plato🌟
hey Meirin, I know I just met you, but call me maybe
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Definitely seems like Shin is a fishy person in general
with how he acts
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yeah he does
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
in the 50's pages(edited)
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i knew the ending before i started reading so i think it made it easier to see he was shifty
early on
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I dunno that Shin's really shifty? Just... .... In need of an attitude adjustment
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
^
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
yeah
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
A few thwaps upside the head might get ya killed tho
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i didnt find him shifty. what i found shifty was meirin's landlord was nowhere around to complain to. which i know she explained it, but what a terrible landlord.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
hes an idealist in a world where that thinking doesn't work
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
wait if the landlord is gone how did shin even get a room? this is why i wish i knew when the murder was. cause if shin was hiding there from teh start it makes sense how he showed up so suddenly. he was a squatter
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Pretty much
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
the landlord is probably a company
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
wish i reread it before this
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
XD "Hi here's my check"
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
tfw I'm jsut reading the whole thing now
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
didnt sound like it cause meirin siad the landlord was out of town or something. i remember this distinctly cause right before i read that i was like "meirin just complain to the landlord this is why they exist wtf." and then meirin explained why she wasnt doing that and i felt the fool
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Sorry I'm late. Today's been a day. ^.^ I'll respond to remarks from half an hour ago for a bit.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
hi math~!
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
MATH
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Favourite bit's a tossup. I liked when she brought food and then was going to leave but relented when she realized he was actually really hungry, that was kind of touching. But I also liked when she thought it was a ghost near the start, that was funny.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i liked how she flipped her gears so quick and was like "jk thats silly its a new tenant"
common sense meirin
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, the ending was really interesting. Didn't anticipate that. Kind of casts everything in a slightly different light?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yes. although if were being critical i do wish the ending had been foreshadowed a bit more. it kind of came out of left field for me
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Hmmm. If Shin WAS a squatter... does that mean he never had a key
also, how long was that body gone for
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
so you didn't see that coming either
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
StickFreeks: Oh, damn, good catch! (With the firing leading to the drama.)
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Okay I pretty much read the whole story now
including the epilouge
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
its wierd to thinks he a squatter cause didn't we see inside his room with all the robonoid stuff
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I love it and how realistic it approaches things
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: Yeah, good point about the emulating on purpose with hair. I agrees.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
no one said squatters cant have stuff. shin didnt seem like he had a whole bunch of stuff tho to me
but i might be biased cause i have like 5 times that amount of stuff in my room not even counting all the shit stored in my closet
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Also yeah the police invasion (sorry for spoilers) came out of nowhare
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
maybe i'm just mis-remembering then(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Respheal: Yeah, the alias thing made me wonder!
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
also I feel ya
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Shin moves from safe house to safe house with his favorite things
he only really had a computer and some posters, assuming the bed was part of the apartment
IS IT THEORY TIME
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah given the style of the bed to me it seemed more like it must of been a prefurnished apartment
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
DID SOMEONE SAY THEROIES
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, with the dead guy being in Intelligence, I thought maybe Shin was some sort of spy who got too caught up in his cover or something.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Meirin: An adorable cinnamon roll of a character, perfect, do not question her. We know the story's from her point of view. Probably did not wait for Shin because she has common sense. Shin: A homeless, murderous squatter who might have been robonoid at one point or another -- and then got fired. Killed a guy, but didn't put a gun against his head or pull a trigger, but the guy's dead. Hates giving his real name because people are jerks and Shin sounds much cooler ANYWAY. "SHINJITE KUREYO"(edited)
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
>Shin was Robonoid
at some point
I love that theroy
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Buboy's probably yelling at his mom, "Mama... Life has just begun... But that guy had gone and thrown it all awaaaaaaaaaaaaay"
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I liked how she said "its a new tenant... but what IF IT'S NOT... no it is". Just something about that.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
kabo that shin description geez XD homeless, murderous squatter
tbf
if he is a squatter
it is a not O_O
hes not a new tenant in that case
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Oh, also, he probably stole someone's credit card.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe Shin's parents created Robonoid. Modelled him after their son. He could never live up to their expectations.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
shin grew up, learned there werent monsters and giant robots in real life. was eternally devastated
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Okay, I'm caught up to the present now. ^.^
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
:3
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
if he stole a credit card that would explain the fancy restaurant
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
im glad shin had a job at some point cause tbh at first i thought he might just not do anything all day but watch robonoid
QUESTION 3. As Meirin spends time with Shin throughout the comic, she seems to change bit by bit. Do you think Meirin will remain changed, or will the comic’s ending cause her to revert back to her old ways of thinking? Do you think she will remain a Robonoid fan herself, or will it just bring back bad memories? How do you think watching Shin be arrested will affect Meirin in general? Most importantly, do you think she’ll wait for Shin like Shin asked her to? Why or why not?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
IF MEIRIN WAITS FOR SHIN, SHE IS A FOOL
MEIRIN IS NOT A FOOL
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: Oooh, good point, I forgot about the restauruant.
snuffysam
I sure hope she doesn't wait for Shin. Keep watching Robonoid if you want, but move on with your life.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so by that do you mean meirin just marries shin while hes in jail? XD
✨Respheal✨
For real 8V (I gotta start winding down for bed so I'm ducking out o/)(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I tend to agree with Kabocha there. Interesting thought, the idea that Robonoid would bring up bad memories though. Hmmm.... maybe not? If she's able to talk with people like the little kid?
snuffysam
I think she might take up Shin's mantle of helping kids? Like, if she sees a kid in need, she'll help them?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Meirin marries Robonoid.
✨Respheal✨
pff
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
:'3
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Shin is the priest.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
FROM JAIL
It's a video wedding.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I would say maybe somewhare inbetween
to answer the question
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i'd like to think meirin would keeping being a robonoid fan, yeah sure the guy that introduced it to you may be a murder but a good show is a good show, when she scracted the surface of it why let the dumb thing wiegh down your enjoyment of it
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
meirin kidnaps that abused kid and runs away from him. cant wait for shin because shes on the run
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I really want to know what happened to the abused kid
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
tbf with shin arrested meirin can take all his stuff. so no reason not to be a fan. someone has to have all that merch
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
exactly
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
it's probably evidence
Shin stole it from Sid Simon.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
the true motive
shin wanted that sweet limited edition poster
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, I wondered about the abused kid too. They both kind of had valid points, need to not ignore it but getting involved can just cause problems for everyone.
Shin took down all his stuff though before he was arrested.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
that scene really made me wonder if the country has a cps. cause the thing you should actually do in that situation is call cps
but different country, different protocols
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
What's CPS? thinks Oh, child protection services, right. Would probably need some kind of evidence.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
I'm curious too
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i dont think you need evidence persay? well to report abuse you dont and i think they usually send someone out. to take the child is when they need the evidence
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i know in america they avoid that tho because foster care is terrible and often damages the child even more
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
At least Meirin will finally get some sleep? (Though she had trouble that time it was too quiet, so hard to say.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
but still idk. i dont think either of their answers were right. cause shin's jump to violence and all that certainly is bad and if hes trying to not go to jail thats not how you do it. although in retrospect maybe thats why shin was ready to go for that. he might assume hes going to jail at some point so what does he have to lose? on the otherhand that, i dont agree with meirin's lets ignore it either, because that is exactly how abuse endures
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
meirin can just put on robonoid fan in the bg
problem solved
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I'd say they should have done something about it
without going to violence
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Agreed, both of them were kind of right. That felt like a bit of a loose thread.
(Or kind of wrong, depending on your POV.)
At least Shin didn't bite her hand when she silenced him.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
they were both right and wrong at the end of the day, imo.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
:'3 The story has some shades of gray to it.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Even Robonoid's not perfect. Dude seems to show up late to fights.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah i think at the end that was kind of the point. that adults and kids arent some black and white thing and that theres a fine line between good and bad. as meirin put it, "you should think like a child but not be a spoiled brat."
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lol, Math
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i chalk that up to how henshin shows go, monster has to cause some havoc first mat
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Robonoid's probably responsible for tons of property damage.
Imagine the insurance bills!
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
oh of course he is
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
his oh so much
*this
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
'Tis a good quote, Rebel.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
theres tons of explosions and builds collapsing everytime a monster shows up
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Lots of dea--- oh no shin really was robonoid
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I could imagine that if the series was longer, it would start to show some of the faults of the Robonoid character
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Is Robonoid really a robot?
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
maybe, could be an ultraman thing where he just gets really big
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
and maybe Meirin would get some idea of why Shin gets bad influences from an anime aimed at kids.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
SJB: Ooh, maybe. I wonder if there's more than the two videos.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
True
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
there has to be, it seemed like serialized show
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
It would have bene cool to see more of the Robonoid franchise and it's influence in Shin
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Robonoid III: Now He's Really A Noid.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Don't let him get the pizza
Maybe an extended cut of the comic could show more of Shin's character and his fondness for children(edited)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
yeah it seemed like a serialized show to me. there were multiple dvds. and since theres merch its more likely a show cause the points of those shows is to make shit tons of money selling merch
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
True
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
plot twist: shin is only nice to kids cause its his devious plan to steal their merch
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
audible gasp
🌟Draco Plato🌟
i did wonder that
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Shin is secretly being financed by Big Robo.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
LMAO
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
thats a whole different mech thing mat
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yis, and they're trying to devalue the other shows by having fans who steal merch from kids.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
my god, to think big robo would do such a thing
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
so was the murder all about the fact sid simon actually was an undercover employee for big robo's rival. and shin discovered it but someone had to take the fall for their corporate espionage
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
yes
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
That could be canon!
Interesting that Meilin had heard of Sid somewhere. Was that in the comic?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i didnt see it anywhere besides the news. i think she was commenting more shed heard of intelligence communications
on a different note, i hope meirin keeps watching robonoid fan if only because i think meirin could use something light hearted in her day. working as a bank teller sounds horribly dull and irritating cause many angry customers.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
True
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
we could all use some henshin in our lives
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Gotcha. And yeah, hopefully she still sees it as a fun pasttime.
puts a hen on Shin's head
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
mat plz
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lmao
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I'd sketch it but I'm not good with fast sketches.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
QUESTION 4. The comic deals with a lot of themes in regards to what it means to be a child, what it means to be an adult, and the good and bad that goes with each. Whose line of thinking in the comic did you find more compelling: Meirin’s or Shin’s? Why did that line of thinking appeal to you? Was there any scene in particular that you think was well done in showcasing the themes? Do you feel Shin’s lies ultimately hurt his arguments, or do you think they still stand up regardless? How does the Robonoid show fit in with the themes? Overall, what is your take away from the comic in regard to what it says about life?
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I honestly felt like I connected a lot to Shin
since me and him share a few weaknesses
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
The weird thing is, Shin's deception felt rather un-childlike. What was he gaining by lying? Most kids would have a reason for that.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
though I agree a lot with Meirin.
also yes that
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
shin's philosophy intrigued me more as its similar to my own
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
You can see from both sides with the characters. Which is nice.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
me and Delta are one and the same
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Shin loses some credibility for calling Meirin old though.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I mean, I get it was in character, but speaking as an old person, booooo
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i saw points on both sides but i sided with meirin way more. while she could stand to be more light-hearted, i was more attune to her being a responsible adult and accepting there are just things that you have to do as an adult
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Shin was definitely stubborn. I think the idea of him being "in his own world" was nicely set up from the start with him playing loud audio late at night.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Like I always do
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
But your neighbours. O.o
(They'll think it's a ghost!)
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Thnakfuly i don't do it every night
Sounds like a fun story to do on Halloween
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
actually not going to lie, that opening scene is also what made me side with meirin's thinking more. XD cause she made a reasonable request that his stuff is too loud. and he responded by being a brat. so no matter how much i see validity in his points, ill always see it as coming from a place of a spoiled adult who thinks if he clings to childhood he suddenly wont be an adult XD
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Rebel: There's truth to that, yeah.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Indeed, Rebel
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
An interesting thing was how we did get some scenes at Meirin's work, fleshing out her world a bit, so she wasn't tied to the apartment. So it might have been easier to side with her too, she was more multifaceted.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
^^^
Maybe we needed to see more of Shin's life without Mei's influence/presence(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
More adult, even.
Shin, apparently living the high life with not worrying much for money, but tending to forget to eat.
(I admit, sometimes I get so caught up in work I forget to eat.)
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
same
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I wonder what Robonoid would be like from Shin's point of view.
"Huh, she's cu--- WHY IS SHE YELLING AT ME GO AWAY Y'OLD HAG"
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i kind of wish wed seen a bit more of meirin's life outside. like even more than we see. like id have actually liked to see her tell her coworker about shin vs. it being relayed as an afterfact already happened
a version from shin's perspective might have been interesting
but also sounds angsty filled
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I was waiting for the ultimate Robonoid attack - "Robonoid Fan"! Big japanese fan that he waves at the enemy.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
did meirin ever say how old she was?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, I don't know if we needed to see from Shin's perspective. But maybe Meirin talking to her coworker and getting advice on someone similar?
I think she just said she was roughly the same age?
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Meirin said she was 25, I believe.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
nah i think the story works better completely from meirin's perspecive. id rather see shin's as like some offshoot extra
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yeah cause she said she wasn't that old then said her age
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
okay i thought she said she was 25
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
When Shin first called her an old hag :'3
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Oops, missed that.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
the fact shin was 28 at the end made me rethink that scene with much wtf
like shin
youre older
who are you calling a hag
🌟Draco Plato🌟
yeeeeeeah XD
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
he's a child at ~heart~
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
at the time he couldn't have known that
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Shin, you make worse decisions than a 14-year-old child who's never been told no and has no supervision
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Lmao
I agree with that
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
http://robonoid.mharz.com/comic/9
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Mature behavior
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
welp i was wrong
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
rereading that scene, his intimidation of Meirin shoulda been a dead giveaway...
🌟Draco Plato🌟
mmm yeah
that seems like foreshadowing now
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yea.
Foreshadowing 70 or so pages ahread
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
I like the art style by the way. Pretty simple, but made dynamic with expressions and backgrounds.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
I agree
It reminds me of one of the video games I used to play since it had kinda a similar artstyle(edited)
I'll just say that(edited)
Simple, yet well crafted with lots of effort
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Which probably makes sense given the idea that Robonoid could be a video game too.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
True
and it is one in-story
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yes, crafted. And yes.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
if shin was a squatter him not locking the door makes sense
im totally banking on him being a squatter in hiding
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
True
Also every time I hear "squatter"
I imagine Shin listening to Russian gangsta music
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Shin, you gotta build your thighs. Do some squats.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i always wondered why no other neighbor complained about shin. like certainly someone shouldve been busybody enough to go around knocking on doors being like "do you believe this shit"
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes
#Squatnation
also this
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Yeah, if he could hear the kid in the apartment below, couldn't they hear him listening to Robonoid?
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Doesn't he have like, two or four other neghibors?
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
He is on the second floor. Bit of a weird place to squat. Got to carry all your stuffs upstairs.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Yes
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Yeah, the kid mentioned he was hearing the robonoid theme
and he loved it
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Kabocha: Oh, that's right. Good catch.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Kudos to Kabo for catching that
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
maybe meirin just picked a really shitty apartment
since nobody cares
just loud neighbors being loud
normal tuesday
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
It's cheap. ^^
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
#LoudTuesday
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Here's a final puzzler. Do you think 'The Robonoid Fan' could also refer to Meirin, rather than Shin? Because she wasn't a fan, then became one, whereas Shin's whole persona seemed to be based on lies.
Well, that or denials.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
i think it could be argued to refer to both of them.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I think it's for both.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
That's what I thought at first
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
since the themes were largely about how neither was completely right or wrong
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
But yeah applying it to both sounds accurate(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
It's not plural though.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
but both their ideas combined was the true answer
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Or well, it probably centers around Shin, like the Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi is... about haruhi, but the main chara is really Kyon
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
lol
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Shin is our troublesome character, who just happens to not be actually.... good at being a hero. SORRY SHIN.
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Hmmm, interesting. (Oh, I hope Shin doesn't have amazing powers.)
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
its a title, doesnt have to be plural to apply to both. cause metaphor.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
You don't get cookies for that scene in the epilogue, even though we all know Meirin made the right decisioooon
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Very meta. 4.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
I know, it's probably both, but I'm just being silly at this point in the evening :3
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Oh Kabo~ :3(edited)
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
All good. Me too. Haven't even brought up any ships.
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Meirin x Connie forever.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
Well the epilogue conforms a ship and denies another
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Meirin x Big Sis?
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
meirin x robonoid
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
just a small teaser
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Wait, wait: Crack theory before we run out of time
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
DO IT
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Meirin IS Big Sis
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
CRACK IT OPEN
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Robonoid takes place before The Angel with Black Wings
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
OMGGGG
I CAN SEE IT(edited)
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
Meirin dies and becomes Big Sis. She wants to be called "Lola" as a rememberance to Shin. AND RAY IS SECRETLY HER LOVE CHILD WITH SHIN -- lookit the spiky hair
(lola being similar to "granny")
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
shin is ray's dad #confirmed
MathTans the Pun 👑Prince👑
Maybe they're just twin sisters.
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
this is the narrative i will push from now on
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
This explains SO MUCH
Kabocha: going off the rails at the last minute.
Superjusting of ✨Time🕑&Space☄✨
YES
🌟Draco Plato🌟
looooool
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
ANYWAY THIS COMIC IS GREAT READ IT PLS
✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
tbf i didnt connect their hair till now XD
Kabocha, Marquess of ✨Sparkle✨
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✨🐱 RebelVampire 🐱✨
COMIC TEA PARTY END! Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party time is now up~! Thank you everyone so much for reading and joining this week’s chat~! We want to give a special thank you to Mharz, as well, for making The Robonoid Fan and volunteering it for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Mharz’s efforts however you’re able to. All that being said, if you would like to continue discussing this week’s comic, we highly encourage you to do so~!
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