#otplus

[izzyspussy]

anyway fic where rkj are together but it's still a Big Secret even from the team (inasmuch as they can keep it a secret, anyway lmao)

meanwhile, colin either comes out on purpose or gets outed or somewhere in between those things, and the media is of course having a circus about it. and he's like lamenting in the locker room after training one day like whatever it's fine i know it'll wash out in the cycle but damn i wish the cycle would go a little faster.

and jamie's like. well. that could be arranged, and when colin asks how he says, "maybe someone else in the football world, who is maybe a little bit famouser than you... could have an even bigger scandal."

and roy says, "nnoo." and jamie pouts at him and he says, "that look doesn't work during training hours, and you have not done enough to earn a favor that big."

and jamie says, "but it's not for me. it's for colin." continues pouting, now with innocent gesture.

and roy says, "right, and it just happens to be what you want."

and jamie says, "well that's the thing about coincidences. they just happen." and beard texts ted immediately to tell him jamie used his line without even knowing it was his line.

[2500ji]

what do we think chat

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a bingo square. (from left to right, top to bottom)

a screenshot of the tumblr filtered tags function. the first tag reads “#this ship”

“not for me, but i can see why others ship it”

“7 minutes in heaven, one gets strangled with a coat hanger”

“they make me ILL /neg”

“don’t even put me in the same room as this one”

“crackship”

“i ship them harder than canon”

“they’re platonic. To Me”

“oh so this is your Mega Rarepair”

“you’ve converted me”

“great in fanon, wouldn’t want it to be canon”

“they make me ILL /pos”

free space

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“i NEED what they have”

a picture of an ao3 search result, reading “no results found”

a doodle of a humanoid figure flapping their hands. “EEEEEEEEEEEEEE” in black text fades out behind them.

“(vibrating at a rate that could shatter glass) yeah i’m normal”

“7 minutes in heaven, they make out”

“i have never heard of this one in my life”

“did you pick these two out of a clown car”

“otp / otplus”

“i like them as part of a larger polycule”

“they have SO much chemistry (they talked once)”

“(4 note post) THE GANG’S ALL HERE ‼️‼️‼️”

[izzyspussy]

Yeah, the fight and Keeley kicking them out didn't really bother me either tbh. I took out the finale events from take away the glass for other reasons, one of which was honestly just... for continuity's sake.

However, anon might be interested to know that Roy and Jamie do have a fight and it is over Keeley in tatg. But it's also clearly about more than that, and they both decide to be more mature about it between the two of them and talk it out.

More importantly imo, and like you mentioned is what you think the most important thing, I have a whole plotline in tatg that focuses on Roy and Keeley needing to communicate. They have an upfront conversation about what went wrong in their relationship, about why Roy is upset with (her and) Jamie now, and they both make apologies and promise to do better. And! Their issues don't magically get fixed after one conversation either, in future parts of the fic they have the same type of miscommunication that (in my interpretation) they have in canon and have to make the conscious choice to not have an impulsive emotional outburst in response and instead ask for clarification and keep trying to understand each other (with Jamie's help by that point, but still; and he's not magically the perfect fix for all their problems either).

So, while it's definitely not completely canon compliant, I would say it probably still has the particular flavor that anon seems to be looking for.

Re: the fic tropes from the s2 hiatus, I have a related thought or question.

I would welcome your thoughts or recs (including recs of your own fic) because I admittedly found the OT3 WAY more easy to believe in fic in the s2 hiatus, in terms of Jamie joining an established RoyKeeley, even if the signs for the RK break up were there in retrospect. I now find it hard to believe in, post finale (well, post fight - up until half way through the finale we were looking good.) I still read lots of OT3 things that diverge at different points in the show, up to and including mid finale, and them simply not taking their bullshit argument to Keeley’s door, but I CANNOT see a path back from that after they do it, only to RJ, in a strictly canon compliant post finale fic. Of course Keeley becomes friends with them again but the events of canon made me feel like she fully closed the door on either of them in that scene for good, and I can't see it working out the way I once could. That's a let down, and makes me sad especially after 3.11! I used to not even like RJ without K, I much preferred OT3.

So what are your fave fics that deal with them getting together post finale - as in, one that doesn't diverge and that deal with what actually happened? I want a fic to really to sell me on it, if that makes sense, because the show really didn't in the end, it felt like it killed it. (Even with the barbecue scene - it felt like potential for RJ + Friend Keeley to me.)

Can you help me believe in the possibility again?

Hello!! First off, let me apologize in advance for what I'm fearing might end up a lengthly response to what was a very simple question, and frankly more than you probably wanted to know lol. That said, I feel like I need to preface my suggestions a bit first to help explain my breakdown of the recs so here's just a few things to keep in mind:

So, I don't see Keeley kicking them out after their bullshit argument to be a permanent door closure on the possibility for a relationship, which obviously influences my enjoyment of post finale ot3 fics greatly. Instead, I sort of just view it as Keeley drawing a hard boundary on what she's willing to put up with, and categorically deciding that she not going to engage with either of them when they're being that idiotic (enormously valid of her). HOWEVER, I honestly believe all it would take is a genuine apology from them to allow them both back into her good graces (look at how easily she forgave Roy after he gave her that sort of half-arsed [imo] apology letter! Now, obviously that didn't fix anything between them, and Keeley was in a particularly vulnerable place when it happened, and possibly their subsequent decision to sleep together then made things worse for their future romantically, but they are also undeniably back to genuine friendship + complicated feelings about ~more~ in the very next episode! I think this situation would go very much the same way.)

NOW, I'm not saying that's like... an entirely healthy and well-adjusted basis for a romantic relationship right off the go, just that I do think that Keeley would accept their apology and return to being friends with both of them really speedily. And that I don't think the lingering romantic feelings between them all (that imo, we do see hints of all season) would disappear. The big problem with roykeeley that led to the breakup was their inability to communicate their needs and feelings and what they wanted out of their relationship, alongside an inability to be truly vulnerable about their emotions. But i think s3 made it very clear to me how much the love is still there between them, and I'm of the belief that all it would take to fix them would be an honest conversation where they acknowledge they've hurt one another, admit they still love each other, and come up with a plan to move forward. I think the solution would be similar for budding ot3--they just need that heart to heart moment to hash it all out, because the love is there!

As such, the most "realistic" path forward for ot3 post-finale the way I see it is for all three of them to agree to be ~just friends~ for the foreseeable, giving Keeley time to focus on herself & her career and explore the self-discovery that comes with being single for once, as well as giving Roy time to develop a routine with therapy and work esp. on the issues that promoted him to initiate the bullshit finale fight with Jamie in the first place. I do not necessarily think anyone but Jamie is necessarily ready for any relationship where we leave them in s3, so I feel very similar about routes forward for RJ, JK or RK and I do for RJK. Eventually though (because let's face it, I do think they're all deeply horny for one another as well as share deeper feelings) the simmering, underlying sexual tension would boil over and the friendship would develop into more.

But all that said...I also am very easy to please and can be made to believe in pretty much any route to ot3, so I enjoy most interpretations of how they get together post finale/*that* fight. I love that it was left so open-ended, it makes it so easy for me to enjoy most fics about how they might get together

I say all this not to argue over your different interpretation (which is a totally valid one!) or to try to suggest everyone needs to see it how I see it, but rather to sort of warn you I guess that some of the fics I'm recommending might not be as successful for you as you were for me, because I see the situation so differently.

I think a lot of canon-compliant post finale fics (mine included tbh) tend to sweep the fight moment under the rug (as in, it gets mentioned that the boys apologized or what have you, but there's also been at least a few weeks time jump since the finale and the three of them have kind of moved on from that evening) because myself and other authors maybe see it as less of a major dealbreaker that needs to very addressed before the three can more forward. I have tried to curate the fics out accordingly into categories that will hopefully steer you in the right direction, but it's also been a while since I've read a lot of these:

Category A: Very convincing (imo) canon-compliant getting-together post finale fics that don't necessarily address the final fight head on:

The Third Wheel by scintilla10; a very cute one-shot based around the idea that Jamie and Keeley have a heart to heart in Brazil and then bring that energy back home to Roy.

Upside Down by @morethanslightly; post finale, they're all friends! then Jamie and Keeley go to Brazil and more occurs :)

take away the glass by @izzyspussy; OK...so to be fair... This one explicitly states in the leading author's note that it ignores everything that happens in the finale, lol. However, it's so good and otherwise (imo) very in line with canon that I'm recommending it to you anyway, even though it doesn't match the brief. JamieKeeley get back together first, which is a unique take I haven't seen in any other fic that nonetheless feels SO fitting for the dynamic in s3. I just really think this is the post-series fic that could convince you on the three of them again :)

Oh, Lord, You've Never Been So In Love by asexual-fandom-queen; post finale friends to lovers, the fight is mentioned in what i think is a very effective way, but not really focused on.

Triangles by @catalogercas- I love fics where Phoebe is the one to knock some sense into them :)

Category B: Post-finale ot3 fics that DO address the finale/fight of it all head on:

How to Build A Triangle (or accidentally fall headlong into one, or whatever the fuck) by SquaresAreNotCircles; very fun but also They Talk About It! Pretty in line with how I see how things actually playing out in canon, tbh.

boyfriend lessons by @mixtapestar; so this is in alignment with "they apologize, Keeley forgives them and they all move on" which I realize might be enough accountability for the way you view the fight, but there's fun twists and I love anything that involves shenanigans and also their Brazil trip.

it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning - butterflybook; a quick one-shot about the boys apologizing & Keeley forgiving them (author notes this happens quickly, but they share my sentiment that that is pretty in character for Keeley)

Category C: Maybe less convincing, given canon, in terms of like, long-term stability for the relationship without further conversation and hard work, but definitely convincing for in-the-moment rampant horniness:

three turns by scintilla10; this is about Keeley inviting them back in immediately after kicking them out for horny purposes, so I'm not sure you'd be convinced by this lmao. But it's also so fun, so I thought I'd throw it on the list anyway for others people who might be interested and/or if you read some category A stuff that gets you back in the ship and then want to try something different

Triple blend by Dancey96; this definitely takes some liberties with what Keeley may have said before kicking them out. so it's "canon-compliant" in a very loose way I don't think aligns with what was actually intended in canon, lol. BUT! It works for them and it's fun and it's hot and it's a fun way to play with what happened so maybe it would make you feel better about the scene! idk

Heart Trouble by @morethanslightly this is another play on the scene that maybe doesn't address their problems as much as you would need, but gosh it is sexy and fun!

Category D: My own fics that may or not be your speed but I'm throwing in to self promo anyway:

Confetti ; This follows the concept that they're all friends post finale and then slowly the dynamic starts to change; fluffy getting together fic ft. Roy's family

last to leave the party ; another iteration of the above but this time it's years of friendship between the three of them post the finale before the something happens that causes things to shift back around to romance

Actually, the one I'm writing now (RJK friends with benefits) is I think going to be the one that addresses what you are looking for most head on (in terms of dealing with the direct aftermath of the finale and staying completely canon compliant). So stay tuned!

If anyone else has any suggestions or would like to self-rec one of your own fics for anon, please add them/share them with me!

[and-so-the-gay-intensifies]

Could someone please give me an interesting name for my rare ships group account?

[izzyspussy]

talk-it-through fic where they're talking about their relationship histories and izzy is like. a shark was the wrong pick. and ed's like yeah? and izzy says you're a fucking angler fish. and ed's like oh? i seduce lesser men and they get attached to me and love me until i consume them completely so they can never leave me? and izzy laughs a little bit and says metaphorically speaking. and ed is a little insulted, because it's meant as an insult. but he's a little flattered too, because it's also meant as a compliment. and he chooses to focus on the latter because they're trying not to fight so much anymore even when they're upset, and izzy did mean it both ways after all so okay. so he's like hmm kinda sexy... and izzy laughs a little bit more and says you would like that. and ed says c'mon iz look me in the eye and tell me you don't think that's sexy. and izzy says well i'm a fundamentally broken fucked up little pervert, edward. of course i think an angler fish is sexy. and ed laughs and they're looking at each other like they love each other and this is all very romantic, and stede is in between them with the sort of blank-ish face that says he's having an extremely vivid and disturbing fantasy that is perhaps less shocking than it really should be. and everyone else is like what the actual fuck is wrong with you fucking freaks holy shit.

[carry-on-my-wayward-gays]

Poly Ships!

Because why have a singular OTP when you can have an OTPLUS!

[whiteclericmaris]

AHDDHUHJK

I already have an idea for YGOTPLUSWEEK and it's just so much fun even if very ooc for one character.

That being said I don't know if I'll go with prayshipping. I just don't want to repeat characters again in a series and I already have two that I'm doing for sure that have Yuya.

🤔 I mean it can be any yugioh and I have them planned out for the palette challenge in conjecture with inktober. The only series I haven't given an OTPlus is DM and 5d's.

I just can't think on any OT3 or more in general outside of the Friendship Gang (Yugi, Joey, Tristan, Tea), and the 5d's gang (Yusei, Jack, Crow, Aki, Luna, Leo).

We'll see what I come up with for day 1 then.

[arirashkae]

Which of your OTP

(or brOTP or OTPlus)

is the one to freak over finding a mouse in the kitchen b/c they have no traps

and which is the one to catch it by hand and take it outside

[izzyspussy]

it's to get ed back into the pirating spirit because he went into a brand new kind of down spiral after reconciling with stede and the crew and he's been saying maybe he should just give it all up but without any "retirement" plans and they're worried about him, so their fuckery is to accept the reins from him like they really don't need him (they don't, but the Themes are about having what you want anyway) and then to pretend in a truly camp way that they are totally incompetent but like not in the ways that they genuinely are incompetent or that are, like, dangerous or actually important in any way, just in the ways that ed, personally, has Very Strong Opinions about, and they pretend to be totally oblivious to that twitch in his eye that gets worse with every new "plan" that they share with him, and they also make a big to-do about how they're getting along and they agree and yes boss i think bonnet's idea is great ("but it's... no, it's fine") and oh ed you never told me izzy could be so polite ("he's WHAT"), until finally ed Snaps and begins passionately micromanaging them

desperately want Izzy and Stede to put on a fuckery together, just two dramatic theatre nerds teaming up for the good of the Show

[izzyspussy]

izzy 🤝 stede 🤝 low empathy + chosen compassion

ed 🤝 stede 🤝 self-centered worldview + vanishingly low self esteem + "whim prone" (fall in and out of fixations)

ed 🤝 izzy 🤝 breathtaking anger management issues + not adaptable to differing communication styles

ed 🤝 stede 🤝 izzy 🤝 inability to believably conform even for relatively short periods + "unsympathetic" abuse survivors

🔥 THE PERSONALITY DISORDER PARTNERS 🔥

[whiteclericmaris]

Tagged by @yu-yatogori (Thanks!) Answer 11/Ask 11 meme

1. What’s your favourite season? Summer, winter, autumn, spring? Hmmm, to be honest the weather here in Florida doesn’t change much during the season since we don’t get snow. Ironically most leaves tend to fall during March time frame after some cold fronts have hit the area. I think I will have to go with fall just because of Inktober and usually I am creating around that time period or busy.

2. What’s your favourite movie? “The Secret Life of Walter Mitty”. I don’t care what anyone tells me the fact that they showed a maladaptive daydreamer in a movie is just so.... It means a lot to me since I can relate to when he goes through those episodes and all of a sudden it stops (although those periods of daydreaming keep coming back to me even after going months without some).

3. Favourite TV show that’s not animated? Uh... Haha... About that... I rarely watch non animated shows. There’s just something about 2d animation that I like. If anything (and I don’t have it anymore) I’d watch the Weather Channel and their shows. I mean I do have TV and cable but there’s not a lot of channels. From there I just watch the NBC news.

4. Where do you like to think? Car, bus, at home on your bed? .... Is this a trick question? As I stated above I have maladaptive daydreaming tendencies and ADHD. Sometimes I just sit and watch people chatter and... “Blah blah blah” ‘What did they say?’. I would say on the couch downstairs.

5. Favourite place? From where I have been? Hmmmm... I’d have to go with Florida. Don’t get me wrong the majority of the people ain’t nice and there’s a lot of superficial stuff and party centric but I just got used to the environment and the diversity. I remember going up some states when younger and while I didn’t remember most of the environment I do remember thinking on how I have to speak proper English. Down here in the south point I can speak my native language (Spanish) and sometimes we get tourists that speak other languages (French is the only one I can understand when they speak). I sometimes forget this place is a hotspot for Florida. If you do end up going a bit north of the State that’s where most of the retirees are as well as English Speakers (which if you are a primarily English Speaker down here you better at least learn Spanish). Also the convenience of things being 24/7 down here is so nice Up in Tampa they close right at 8 so if you got a last minute emergency to the store you’ve got a problem. 

6. Favourite kind of music? Hmmmmm.. I don’t give it much thought. I do love some latin singers as there is some hype music that stimulates me but I tend to like stuff that is not too loud or shouty (sorry rock fans and heavy metal fans and reggeaton fans)

7. If you’re an artist, favourite character to draw, if not, favourite character? Oh damn this is a tough question. I have arted so many Arc-V characters for ships that I can’t give you a specific one. Yuya is my fave but his goggles and jacket are a pain. It’d probably be either Serena or the Osiris Red Girl that was with Asuka. Ironically they both have green eyes and wear red and purple hair so we got that. XD

8. Favourite word? Even tougher. I can’t pick one word. Probably ‘Fluff’. That’s what I love. No, ‘Platonic’. I love that word even though I don’t know the meaning of it. Looking up at dictionary.com it’s third meaning might be why I love it ‘purely spiritual; free from sensual desire, especially in a relationship between two persons of the opposite sex’. I love that.

9. Favourite thing to write? (If you’re not a writer, favourite thing to read?)

Hahahaha, usually I like to write two characters having some bonding time. I LOVE mermaid aus and I won’t hesitate to click on it on Ao3. I do have a certain kink that I have to keep writing down when my maladaptive daydreaming keeps coming back but ‘hush hush’. In general I just like the ‘boring, two character interactions [or more for OTPlus and friendships] that are either having fun or going on adventures’. As long as two or more characters interact in a certain way I am happy (which is why I can’t come up with plots or scenes to art or write because I am just happy with interaction) 

10. OTP? Too many (Curse you Arc-V! Why’d you have to make so many good characters). My main ones: Sparrowshipping, Counterpartshipping, Appleshipping, Fuchsiashipping (I blame the pink!), Emblemshipping, Sproutshipping, Elusionshipping.

Outside of Arc-V Hinamori Amu and the samurai boy (or alternatively king boy), Watanuki Kimihiro and the protective spirit, Fakiru (It’s so GOOD!) Diodeshipping, the Ore Monogatari main pair. Yeah... not a lot. Oh and SakuSyao

11. Favourite book? Tough because I have not read any books lately. Probably Language Arts. It has an autistic child in it and deals with the father coming to terms with it and his strong willed wife that worries over them. Oh and the father also had a friend who was atypical when he was younger. It’s a bit of a bittersweet ending. 

I’m not tagging or asking anyone but you are free to do this if you’d like.

[izzyspussy]

1 & 2, 3

re nsfw night: have u seen my polylosers gang bang posts??

No I haven't where are they give them to me??????????????????????????¿

[aharsherworld]

let’s hang out - TO THE DEATH

[izzyspussy]

they said izzy goes "on a journey" this season and discovers that he's in love and "who he's in love with" but now that the first three episodes are out we can see clearly that the blackhands is established. there is no journey nor discovery there, and love has already been expressed somewhat directly, before izzy's character arc even truly begins. with these factors as supporting evidence, in this essay i will explain how stizzy c

[izzyspussy]

rkj is together but it's very, very new and one day roy gets all possessive af with jamie and jamie's not unhappy with it but he's jamie so he still has to poke and prod, so he says "i know keeley doesn't let you get away with this shit" and roy says "yeah, which is why you're gonna take enough of it for two" and jamie says

[izzyspussy]

please dear god let ed and izzy do weird sexy shit on screen and then they break up and izzy has a rebound hook up with stede please dear god please god dear god please