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I don't see people using The Lazarus Experiment from Series 3 as a routine means of identifying Doctor Who as being "past it's prime".
Even commentary regarding the farting aliens that wear human skin suits has been at a relative low.
There were also two episodes where James Corden played the key companion role. People didn't like it but rarely mention those episodes anymore.
Then there was the episode about the moon being an egg. Another one about sleep dust from our eyes taking over a space station cuz capitalism...
There was also that one that became a soapbox about making choices to fix the planet or else the surviving humans would become monstrous mutations trapped outside of planet terraforming resorts that dish out space coupons.
Almost like Doctor Who routinely puts out these silly, not-so-award winning scripts or stories and routinely receives mediocre ratings or fan reception as a result. ...but people still keep watching it and people still love it.
Space Babies is not different; in fact it's a delightful episode with beautiful messages attached to it.
CGI baby mouths or not...I just want to put a stamp on the *cow's excrement* (NAN-E filter approved).
Edit: In case it's not abundantly clear I thoroughly enjoy when Who is either bad or heavily perceived as being bad. It's never like "omg they put the lead actor's character into a coma and wrote them off the show I wonder what's happening behind the scenes" it's always like "this week we're going to introduce a new creature into the lore" and people get mad or "this week we're going to bring back a known creature from the lore* and people get bored or *what if we brought back one of the farting aliens and make her story kinda sorta sad but still funny* then people's heads explode.
#doctor who#whovian#space babies#dw fandom#fifteenth doctor#dw#doctor who commentary#eleventh doctor#the curse of the black spot#ncuti gatwa#millie gibson#the lazarus experiment#aliens of london#the lodger#kill the moon#sleep no more#orphan-55#doctor who writing#boom town
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rare sighting of Nine and/or Twelve in Thirteen's body
#doctor who#orphan 55#thirteenth doctor#13th doctor#12th doctor#9th doctor#ninth doctor#twelfth doctor#jodie whittaker#laura fraser#s12e03#dw#for real#I would have loved to hear christopher eccleston or peter capaldi deliver this line
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thirteen's era appreciation: 470/?
#dwedit#timelordgifs#chibnalldaily#doctor who#the doctor#thirteen#thirteenth doctor#hyph3n#orphan 55#jodie whittaker#amy booth-steel#13seraappreciation#my gifs#thirteen*
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haven't seen many people mentioning it: "So, my socks are a cotton derivative, and my shoes are retrobuffed. I love them so much. (...) The T-shirt is a classic design from the year Five-5. I adore it. (...) And the thread is sourced from refurb, so I'm not depleting any of Finetime's resources. I'm so careful about that"
i rlly enjoyed this little bit of greenwashed fashion industry marketing speak + "it's from the year five-five" (!!!!)
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im a chibnall era disliker but my biggest wildcard opinion of that era is that orphan 55 is actually a great watch. not “good” in any quantifiable way but definitely not the worst episode of the show and way too demonised by the fandom. it’s funny, it’s camp as hell, there’s a catgirl, WHERE’S MY BENNI, and the twist legit caught me off guard the first time. justice for orphan 55
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unpopular opinion but Orphan 55 fucking slaps
#13th doctor#dw s12#orphan 55#doctor who#dw series 12#like. the budget is low and there is 1 inconsistency/plot hole for 5 seconds towards the end but that's it.#the story slaps. the concept slaps. and it feels great to see 13 get rightfully mad about very real issues#love the dregs
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WE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING HERE. WITH THIRTEEN "The System Is Fine, Actually, No One Is Being Inherently Exploited, It's Just Bad Actors", THIRTEEN "I'm Going Back To Non-Interference As My Policy (Except When I Decide I Should, But Only I Have The Right To)", THIRTEEN "I Don't Need My Past To Shape My Identity, I'm Fine, I'm Just Who My Fam See Me As, This Is A Normal Way To Act After Experiencing Trauma". AND THE FACT THAT ALL OF THOSE THINGS FLY SO HORRIBLY, IRONICALLY IN THE FACE OF WHAT WAS DONE TO HER. THE SYSTEM WAS BAD, BOY, IT ATE YOU ALIVE. YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE FORM OF TIME LORD INTERFERENCE WITH ANOTHER CIVILIZATION. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THIS SHIT, IT'S COMING FOR YOU AND IT WILL CHANGE YOU.
#sorry. i still like the episode. i think my main critic of chibnall era so far is that it just will Not take the time to get in depth with#shit. like i noted that at the beginning of the season. orphan 55? good episode! shame about it not utilizing any of the companion's#extremely relevant backstories to make it even better!#thirteenth doctor
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I saw that Orphan-55 was rated one of the lowest episodes of the series before watching it. The whole time was having a good time and didn't understand why, then it reached the speech 😂 the episode would've been fine without it!! Early 13 seemed to have real problem with "show not tell"
It was a good episode before the monologue, I agree! Not perfect, but solid. And then monologue. I didn’t realize it was rated low but it doesn’t surprise me lol.
I definitely agree it’s too “tell-y” at the moment. I’m still in the first half of her second season so we’ll see if it gets better, but the first other example that pops into my head is “Kerblam!”, that whole speech about how the people using the system was the problem after the system killed an innocent person. Yikes.
Twelve definitely handled capitalism better, making sarcastic remarks about how “capitalism is bad actually” throughout the episode instead of a “capitalism is fine it’s just that one over-worked janitor that’s the problem” monologue.
Jodie was out there doing everything with nothing. Yikes.
#doctor who#new who#nuwho#the doctor#dr who#13th doctor#thirteenth doctor#12th doctor#twelfth doctor#twelve#the twelfth doctor#kerblam#orphan 55#I forget the name of the episode with twelve I mentioned but yeah
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Doctor Who - Orphan 55
#doctor who#doctor who girlie#new who#Orphan 55#13th doctor#the thirteenth doctor#thirteenth doctor#yazmin khan#graham o'brien#ryan sinclair
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As much as I ADORE the themes of the current Doctor Who, I really don't get the people who are affectionately calling the message "subtle as a brick to the face" but hated on Orphan 55 and the like during Chibnall bc of how "preachy" it was. Like, babes...do we need to have a conversation about how "Space Babies," "Oxygen," and "Orphan 55" are all just as preachy as each other? That's kinda what Doctor Who has always been about??? Absolute camp of the Adipose, Slitheen, Pting, Smiley Robot, and Menacing Cube varieties interspersed with some of the must unsubtle, earnest monologues in the world delivered by some of the best actors (gn) in Britain? Thank you very much give me several more of these stupid lonely aliens on a platter???
#the thing is that yes chibnall had some stinkers but so did rtd and moffatt#every showrunner has had their weak spots and downsides#and there are some legitimate criticisms of chibnall but like this isn't one of them#this IS the DNA of Doctor Who#doctor who#rtd#chibnall#thirteenth doctor#fifteenth doctor#space babies#orphan 55#moffatt#don't say you hate thirteen bc of the writing if you’re just going to like it when another writer does the same thing
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I was thinking about the popular fan theory that 16 year old fanboy Chris Chibnall's embarrassing appearance complaining about Terror of the Vervoids on live television was possibly the inspiration for the character Whizz Kid in The Greatest Show in the Galaxy.
If that's the case, then does that mean Benni and Vilma from Orphan 55 were based on Pip and Jane Baker?
#Doctor who#classic who#Chris chibnall#Pip and Jane Baker#Benni and Vilma#two aimless senior citizens shuffling through a plot originally by Robert Holmes#trial of a time lord#whizz kid#the greatest show in the galaxy#terror of the vervoids#Orphan 55#The Mysterious Planet#the trial of a time lord#sixth doctor#thirteenth doctor#rambles
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thirteen's face appreciation: 101/?
#dwedit#timelordgifs#chibnalldaily#doctor who#the doctor#thirteen#thirteenth doctor#jodie whittaker#orphan 55#13s face appreciation#my gifs#thirteen*
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do people actually hate orphan 55? its ur classic 'the earth is fucked face the consequences' episode thats been done multiple times over the years so im bit lost on the whole 'orphan 55 isn't a good episode' thing like its just more of the same....?
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oh god but the parallels… the doctor returning to gallifrey to find it ravaged by nuclear warfare, then going on their very next adventure to visit orphan 55 (for a holiday! a break from the pain!) and discovering that future-earth, their home away from home, could be doomed to suffer a similar fate… the flashback of war, disorder and destruction as she reads the dreg’s memories… salt in the wound
#what’s this?? thirteen’s era getting THEMES? no way; have the writers remembered this is doctor who#jamie catches up#orphan 55#dw#thirteen#thirteenth doctor#jodie whittaker#doctor who meta#the master#dhawan!master#gallifrey#spyfall#jamie.txt
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The issue with the Doctor's speech at the end of Orphan 55 isn't that it is on the nose and condescending, the issue is that Donna Noble isn't there to say: "Is that why you travel round with a human at your side? It's not so you can show them the wonders of the universe, it's so you can take cheap shots?"
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Thirteenth Doctor + Incorrect Quotes ↳ 113/?
#doctor who#source: ?#episode: orphan 55#character: the doctor (thirteen)#character: graham o'brien#incorrect quotes#this is actually canon this happened
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