#or at least ignores so they dont have space in the fandom but yeah

[dlstmxkakwldrlarchive]

"how they acted when ltm confessed on bbl he was feeling tired during ngda promo" what did they do????

they made him apologize for being overworked

[nomairuins]

i think itis funny in the past when i would list my interests as if i post abt them i donot post abt the shit im into rly Mainly bc im not rly Into Into anything anymore i occasionally watch or read or play something but i dont do fandom stuff rly much.... just sometimes i get brainworms

[sp1cychamm0y]

Heads up: This is about the anti-Wavewave post and why I think it’s a bit silly, your fully welcome to ignore or disagree

It’s crazy how pressed people get about ship discourse (and I’m sorry you gotta deal with that dawg that blows) like, yeah you may find ships in a character tag, it’s always gonna happen, but like you said, you can filter tags out. Plus these fictional characters aren’t even human, and while that may mean they don’t feel attraction like people do, they could still have their hot crazy alien robot sex. (Its two sides of the same coin in my opinion) It’s not like they’re teenagers in some anime that makes it a bit weird, they’re;

1). Not humans

2). Fully realized, consenting adults

And I wouldn’t view it as homophobia due to the fact that the majority of the cast are male (or male coded at least due to the whole they’re alien robots and gender’s a human thing) so obviously most ships are gonna be MLM. Plus Soundwave and Shockwave don’t really interact with female characters as far as I can recall. 🤷

What’s even weirder is the “maybe they’re bothers, they call each other brother (as in comrade)” but like, the arguably BIGGEST ship in this franchise is MegOP and they also refer to each other as “brother” but nobody bats an eyelash to that (Not even gonna start on Thundercraker/SkyWarp/Starscream which is a pretty popular ship for being the closest one to insecst, not bashing but yk)

From my experience fandom shipping is when you take the character you project onto or find relatable and the character/characters you like/find attractive and make them kiss. And people DONT HAVE to interact with that if they don’t like it, especially in NSFW spaces. I’m mean we’re all adults here (or at least we SHOULD BE if we’re in a NSFW space, but that’s a separate problem…) and should be able to handle things like adults, but I digress.

Sorry for leaving this huge rant in you inbox but I don’t think you (I know it’s not you specifically but still) should be getting second hand bashed for your opinions on who should hold hands

Anyways I hope you have a nice rest of your day/night!

no yeah thanks, and i totally agree with you. I take keeping minors out of nsfw spaces very seriously. i didnt want this to get too dramatic and i apologize if i make anyone uncomfortable but yeah i repeat, filter your tags, block me i dont care i promise

[cheeseblind]

Hello! Hope you're doing well and thanks for keeping us all posted!

Because sharing is caring - just wanted to muse that its nice to see a part of a fanbase actually dealing with this rather well? I've kind of removed myself from fandoms on the whole as spaces I've thought were progressive have turned on female survivors on a dime just for quietly posting about harassment. I dunno - guess I'm kind of scared now of liking anything to the point that instead of giving it up I'd choose to be sus of accusations just because I like a persona. But at least from what I can see as a lurker, you guys have all been really cool about it, despite how difficult it is to deal with once you've invested in making content and a community. Even as someone who has only been into NRB for a couple of months, the last few days have really sucked but this lil slice of tumblr has helped. So yay <3 faith: restored!

I think for me now my main concern is why Carley thought it was maybe being swept under the rug, and if they did infact, deal with the situation as soon as they were made aware. Certainly, the statement is promising, even if its impossible to know if we would have got one if it all hadn't blown up like it did.

I wonder as well, if Adam does sadly need to be let go, if it's not better for them just to keep the accusations vague for the sake of privacy and not opening it up for debate like last time where everyone comes out of the woodwork to defend abusive behaviour. But then again, maybe that just gets the cast harassed for further info, who knows. Not sure how they'd handle it if he does remain with NRB.

But ive rambled in your inbox enough! Hopefully 4 player communipoly will get me excited for NRB again even with these caveats, because right now I'm being productive instead of watching BOTC all day and ugh, gross.

Enjoy D20!

i agree! while i have seen a couple of gross comments by and large this fanbase has been a kind and supportive place since we found out, which is definitely very nice to see (also my recent big fanbases before (and alongside) this were all sports, imagine the hell that is) so comparatively yeah. not awful. its been nice bc it hasnt felt like an argument at any point which sometimes it can in worse fanbases.

and yeah, idk, i def dont like it at all that nothing was said before it became a big thing but also i understand that from a legal + pr pov ig? and yeah ig im just hoping their statement is completely honest + they werent gna fully ignore it if it never came up but we will never know that now ig

and honestly personally i would prefer we get details bc of who i am as a person, but idk what theyre gna decide and idrk how im gna react to anything anyway icl

<3 hope youre well

[fitzrove]

Choose violence Tanz der Vampire (or another fandom if you dont have an answer!) 3, 17, 22!

3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr

OOH i collected a bunch of these for my video essay xD

This is perhaps way too mean ahdhfh and I think differences in opinion are productive in fandom spaces, but... one old post I screenshotted argued that people who criticise romantic kr*lock x sarah may not in fact be doing it out of seriously analysing canon, and are instead "smashing 'frivolous fangirls' dreams' - because god forbid we ruin the Serious Vampire Musical with something as fluffy as EPIC GOTHIC ROMANCE". XD And then the post pointed out that vampires are a metaphor for escaping societal pressures, especially for young women and lgbtq+ people, so it's actually a deep and good theme in and of itself.

Idk it's sooo ironic how that post posits that specific relationship as women's liberation (and also points out lgbtq people's struggles in society, as a sidenote...) when there are in fact women out there who don't think romance with men liberates them - and in fact, for whom anything of the sort would be a prison and a nightmare (... that society still tries to push on them at every turn). Like I get how some people would like it but your experiences are not universal and it's ironic that they didn't think about what the L in LGBTQ+ means when making the post and even mentioning it ahdhfh

Anyway yeah, I criticise the (over)romanticisation of Krolock and the de-romanticisation and farcification of Alfred because I hate fun and women's rights, hope that helps (hsdhfjfgfkjgk)

17. there should be more of this type of fic/art

Canon-compliant/canon-universe (ie. not AU) Alfred x Sarah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canon-era, post-canon, vampirified, not vampirified... straight people rights (ahsdhjfjskdfghjld). Oh but I do think I would accept an AU that would make it lesbian alfred x sarah because girl Alfred is so exciting to me (but it would have to be good, I hate when people genderbend and change everything in an illogical way lmao). Both fic and art for this >:]

22. your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores

alfred x sarah (XDDD). Máté Kamarás nightmare solo 1 deep lore (jsjajfj mostly a joke). The depths of the Alfred corruption arc thing and the differences in his and Sarah's worldviews/anxieties (as represented metaphorically by how they approach vampirism). I mean there are people who don't ignore these things but there is too much h*rbert x alfred content in proportion (HAHSDHFJFJ sorry, everyone should write what they want, it's just that that time could've been more productively spent writing todolf fanfiction /hj) and it's craaazyyy how marginal alfred x sarah is in fandom and in fan content (14 fics on ao3 if excluding h*rbfred and krolock alfred sarah polyamory) vs. how much people (at least in the past, now it's mostly ignored or talked of positively I think) fight/fought against it and put it down as a ship.

[pulchrasilva]

What's an anti-anti? Or an anti for that matter

Oh my friend I am so sorry to introduce you to the shitpile that is antishipping discourse

Anti is short for "antishipper", which is someone who believes certain types of ships are immoral and nobody should ship them or engage with media about them. Exactly what types of ships that includes varies (because morality will always be vague at best and you can't meaningfully categorise anything into "always good" and "always bad"), but people usually take issue with incest, ships involving one or more minors, age gaps, etc.

I consider myself a proshipper/"anti-anti" purely because I think this kind of discourse is extremely inane and potentially harmful.

Antis tend to say "problematic" ships "normalise" harmful dynamics in real life, ignoring that exploring these ideas in fiction is a safe way of engaging with darker topics and sometimes people do so to process personal trauma. Personally I've found that reading fanfiction about dark topics made me wayy more emotionally prepared to handle discussion of them in real life.

And, as I said, it's nearly impossible to draw a solid line between what should be allowed and what shouldn't be allowed. Age of consent is an arbitrary number that's chosen because legally you need a strict number if you're going to enforce the law, but a person 1 year older and 1 year younger than the age of consent aren't actually that much different. Plus the law varies from country to country, but antis tend to choose the US age of 18 because the US dominates the internet. Age-gaps between two non-minor characters get even more blurry!! And let's not forget that a ship between two men is way more likely to be flagged as pedophilia than a ship between a man and a woman. Imo if you can't make a concrete rule about it there's no point in making a rule at all.

Plus it's fiction, and not even mainstream fiction, so it's hardly gonna cause any significant shift in real life culture. These ships get criticised to hell and back in fan spaces and people get properly harassed over it, but there are plenty of professional writers portraying these things in well known media and don't get much flack for it at all - because it's way easier to tear down a fan, your equal, than a creator. It seems to me that the problem isn't really "normalising" these behaviours, because if that was the case mainstream media would be a much bigger contributor than fandom

For some reason, toxic/abusive ships are less commonly criticised despite being objectively harmful to the characters involved, and incest is the one people hate the most despite it being (imo) the one least likely to cause actual harm to the characters. Also depictions of rape and sexual abuse are usually considered off limits but you rarely get the same criticism of, say, depictions of murder. The sexual aspect of the topic seems more important than the actual harm.

AND THEN there's the fact that antis generally only argue against the ships that make them personally feel uncomfortable. Different people have different boundaries for what they consider too far, and I lose my shit every time I see antis shipping something I know other antis claim is the devil. And often the whole thing gets coopted by someone who doesn't like people shipping characters A and B because they ship B and C. ("You can't ship these unrelated characters because they're sibling-coded which makes the ship basically incest" is something I've seen a truly bonkers amount of times)

So yeah. That's the whole mess. Like I said I dont really care about whether or not antis follow me? I'm proship purely because I don't think this is a conversation that needs to be had at all. Like who cares But, go wild, romanticise the hell out of the most repulsive things!! It's nobody else's business but yours. But if I see a mutual who followed me first reblogging "any proshippers who follow me should explode and die teehee ^-^" ONE MORE TIME I might actually explode

[castlebyersafterdark]

lpsg anon here. so generalising massively, i can only assume the forum is mainly men considering the way the language was so direct compared to tumblr, mainly women (sorry vinny). it was objective but almost not objectifying, because it came from this place of self acceptance? i sort of understood how men dont consider their objectifying of women to be such, because it comes so naturally as a factual thought process. 'he is hot - fact' etc. whereas women, ya know, have more to protect and uphold reputation wise sadly.

i kind of liked their freedom, but it certainly made for more boring reading compared to the horny poetry we have here haha. re: noah, as you asked, it was just one mention, they were talking about a recent pic of finn (lots of the same ones as shared here!) and saying he's got long arms and they wonder what else is long (really, men? really? such a cliche lol), and then one person asked if he's been in any romantic links lately, another said he's been single for ages and some trash about elsie (at this point i could no longer believe it was all men cos this is the exact style of tumblr girl gossip lol), and then one of them said something about him being linked to noah cos of shipping. the idea of shipping being mentioned on a forum like this really throws me, is that ignorant of me? but honestly the whole thing was like the gossipthings blog but less anxious hahaha

like they said something, others were like 'oh ok' and then they moved on and continued thirsting. so much more chill than here hahaha

You were the original anon that sparked the nonsense and madness last night and you got buried under my inbox avalanche!!

I do think the demographic is mostly men, though it seems there are some women there, and even certain sections catered to them as well - there's a whole subcategory section called "Ask A" and fill in the blank with gender/sexuality. But otherwise - yeah. Which is often the stereotyped case when the site in questions leans heavily into sex and prn. Even if formatted primarily to a forum threads set-up.

No offense taken, I've spoken about my love of fandom culture and comfort I've always found on this side of fandom compared to the other options out there (although - I recently looked through some articles on tumblr stats/demographics and it seems like the gender divide is split pretty evenly? Interesting). I like tumblr/creative based fandom more. With the posts and fic and art. It seems as a young boy, I had two paths in front of me as a nerd / fanboy: Youtube video essay vlogging or tumblr for fanart and gifsets and fic writing 🤣 Doesn't it feel so silly that way sometimes? (Though, I was also a Reddit bro for a long while as well). But I recognize that there is a female-heavy side to certain spaces in fandom and it's amiss to not acknowledge it. I've loved it. Not really ever phased but who's chilling around me only. Off topic!

I see your points, interesting observations. I'll admit, it's fun getting swept up in the off the cuff statements on a site like that. Reeeeking of cliches, so very heavily. The repetitive and obvious questions like men, men!! Men, are you kidding me? Don't you have anything else to say other than "I wonder how big he is? Cut or uncut? What type of underwear does he wear?" Gentlemen. Put those horny minds to work!! I get that there's likely a lack of blood-flow happening to your brain but get it together! Be more interesting!

I tend to find myself... well, wanting to think at least I'm more of a champion for the poetic side. I think that's probably true. I prefer my horny posting with a twist of romanticism to be honest and if that makes me sound pretentious I'm not mad about it!

It was really interesting to read at least in a comparison sake to the spicy blogs around here. Very different vibes. I absolutely love our analytical thirsting to be quite honest.

[tododeku-or-bust]

Tbh the atsv fan "characterization" that pisses me off the most is the Miles Morales Prowler shit. Thats just a 15 year old. Good god. It makes me want to punch a bitch. At least Hobie is punk (even tho like. I still super dont like thag a lot of characterizations of him that seem to rely too much on the fact that a lot of Punk Thingz™️ (namely, drugs and hate for authority) are also antiblack stereotypes and we should be giving benefit of the doubt in these cases)

But Miles Morales is still Miles Morales, even if in a dif universe he's the prowler and his hair's different(? Im ngl im white and idk if it has anything to do with this, but ive seen his hair referenced before as important). I also see a lot of ppl forgetting how Morales was treated after the first movie, that fuckin colored pencil post still makes me mad.

Pissing me tf off. Sorry for mini rant it just seems you are also on this topic rn and none my friends seem that into the spiderverse 😔

Oh the moment I tried to block the Miguel tag (which DIDNT WORK, btw), the Miles G reader stuff showed up and I had instant regret 😭 but I haven't seen much for him outside of that. I'm glad I haven't, now.

Tbh, I wasn't really into Fandom when ITSV came out, so I (gratefully) missed all of the bullshit I heard happen with that one.

What's really pissed me off about Miles' seeming depiction by fandom, at least in the sections I've seen, is...idk if I'm saying this right.... To over simplify him? Like it frustrates me that a movie, both movies, the existence of Miles Morales himself, ALL have to do with themes of race, representation, and belonging. Yes there are plenty of other messages that are important, but all of them connect back to that identity too.

And people are just... Glossing over that. In this desire to go "oh he's so precious"- in what I'm sure is white ppls well-intentioned attempt to not be seen as a racist that doesn't care about Black children- they are still managing to completely ignore how his identity is symbolic in the storytelling. It's colorblindness in a movie where seeing race is essential and if you're gonna ignore it you might as well not even watch it at all bc at its core it's HIS story.

Like yeah, you think he's queer allegory, yeah you recognize how it feels to not belong, how to fight the status quo, fantastic, I love it, are you actually engaging with the race aspect that affects his experience of all of those things? Are you processing that when Rio said he might not be accepted in spaces, just maybe you have brown friends who feel that way in white spaces, fan and otherwise (esp now with affirmative action lmao, but always with Miles in the comics and dealing with fans). It's easy to think a multicultural movie with a Brown antagonist, well it "can't have to do with race" and that's just not true.

That's why people fixating on Hobie mildly disturbs me too; he TOO is a BLACK punk. That makes a difference, in his solidarity and what that meant for Black viewers. Or how they're ignoring Margo altogether despite her crucial role in his escape. Or how they're refusing to engage with Jessica Drew with understanding (you don't have to agree with her! I don't! But to understand where she stands in that spectrum from Hobie to Miguel, she is not nearly as bad as fandom wants to believe; she's actually comparable to Peter B but misogynoir prevents that conversation).

Like I am so happy we are finally entering an era where Black and Brown people are seeing themselves more on screen in roles we've yearned for, I am. But that also means it's time for white people to start engaging with what that means, and that means unlearning and learning.

[sagemoderocklee]

omg let’s go choose violence multiples of three 🔥

3. ANSWERED

6. which ship fans are the most annoying?

lotta them are but def S/S and N/H for me.

i think n*r*gaa is annoying but like the actual fandom has toned down some or maybe i just been out of it so long i never have to see anything from them. though i still think its annoying whenever the fandom does stupid lil 'gaara is jealous of sasuke' jokes. annoyin as hell and completely disregards the way gaara empathized with sasuke--even if kishimoto couldn't commit to that more strongly. but hey no one is important unless they can be used to prop up the MC, and god forbid anyone but naruto feel anything for sasuke i guess. not like the whole thing with gaara and sasuke in classic was that gaara saw himself in sasuke... like rlly fuckin sucks what we coulda had there

9. worst part of canon

god there's so much that's bad but definitely the Otsutsuki. gotta be my least fave thing. zero foreshadowing because it was just a gimmick for boruto.

also ch 700 sucks and doesnt exist to me

12. ANSWERED

15. that one thing you see in fanart all the time

gonna assume this is meant negatively but uh besides the obvious blushing gaara shit also the orientalist designs that are out there. like gaara in these fake ass belly dancer type costumes. ugly and racist as hell. like if you wanna put Gaara in clothes from SWANA regions then do the fucking research. dont just throw shit together. you cant culture vulture your way to a diverse cast of characters

18. it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on...

bitch i dont know >< uh... yeah i got nuthin

21. part of canon you think is overhyped

lmao most of it but definitely Madara

24. topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

a*3

if someone wants to give their money to a site that hosts cp, racist fics, silences pro-Palestine volunteers, treats volunteers like shit and ignores the volunteers of color experiencing racism then imma block and move on with my day. and if someone wants to align themselves with ppl who send messages to the effect of "lol because of this im donating $100 to a*3" to mostly Black bloggers seeking mutual aid who happen to be critical of said site... well thats on them too. these ppl are one step away from callin Black ppl slurs but sure it's more important to protect this site from so-called censorship (it's actually just moderation, but go off with that fake ass oppression)

you dont get to call somethin art and then not criticize it and the spaces it inhabits. real literature is criticized, so if fanfic is held up to that standard then it and the spaces it exists in should be criticized--and in general any community space needs to be held to a standard, but hey that's askin mostly white ppl to care about community. but like either its transformative and therefore warrants engagement on that level or its just for fun--and if its the latter, then youre still sayin its fine to have fun at the expense of others; its fine to disseminate works that maintain the status quo, and even encourage it. you cant 'representation matters' and 'fiction doesnt impact reality' a thing--the two are contradictory, only one can be true, and hint: it's not the latter--or the space it exists in.

also genuinely think its so disingenuous to act like ppl critical of that site are all doin it out of spite and to "ruin ppls fun" insteada because they want that space to be welcoming and better for everyone--safer. ppl pushin for change are tryna make it a place that doesnt cause harm, silencing that is so fuckin stupid

[addedsugars]

i usually dont reblog stuff like this with comments but the replies wasnt giving me enough space and leaving multiple replies makes me feel like a freak. im gonna try and keep this vague since i assume youre an anime only! there might be some spoilerly info but im not gonna just say full arc endings or anything. correct me if wrong about the anime only thing though!

1. farcille isn't technically canon but can be read as heavily implied, and seeing as dunmeshi is an overwhelmly queer Fandom we just accept it. im pretty sure the author leaves it purposefully vague but thats just how i see it. a large amount of the story is spent talking about their relationship so why not. ships have become fanon for less.

2. labru is one of the ships based on character foil dynamics. they're characters inherently tied together by the end of the story and end up relying heavily on each other and are different yet the same in so many ways... like even if they aren't romantically together most labru shippers I know love to talk about the PARALLELS . bitches love a good parallel and in many ways that's just what labru as a pairing is made for. even their appearances could be read as opposites, they technically could fit a sun and moon anesthetics there's just a lot to love there.

3. I'm a passive kabru enjoyer so you'll need to ask an active one for more details but I think part of trans masc kabru is just, a lot of Trans masc people seeing themself in him. another big part of it is what from what I've seen is, kabru is not his real name, or at least the one he was given at birth. could be seen as a Trans thing. kabru is seen to dress and appear somewhat androgynously as a child so it can be easy to say he was Trans. from the way kabru was raised with elven culture being so light with the differences between feminine and masculine it would be easy for him to transition.

I think the biggest factor Is Queer people like Queer headcanons.

4. I didn't know chilshi was seen as freaky? yeah Senshi sees chilchuck as a kid for the first part but that's mostly player for laughs and is a thing of ignorance on senshis part. it's like mistaking someone who's short and has a baby face as a teen irl. after being corrected that senshi is shown to be able to like, acknowledge chilchuck as an adult and his equal, at least to my memory.

even though chilchuck is still married it's left sorta vague even post canon if he ever got in contact with his wife again? like yeah he clearly still cares about her, but he hasn't spoken to her directly in years and the conception of their marriage can also be read as Rocky since chilchuck married so young. like he married at the half foot equivalent of 17 after his first kid was born and now he's pretty much middle aged. with all of that + their lack of contact most assume they'll just get officially separated especially since they've been so unofficially for years. it's fine if you wanna see them getting back together! a lot of people do but there's no canon evidence for that so it's hard to read it as homerecker-y to me especially since all of chilchucks kids are grown.

I think a big part of the ship is actually senshi and chilchuck having a similar status in the friend group, both being older men and both taking an almost parental role in certain situations. in chilchuck's case it mostly comes out in comedic situations but its easy to see how chilchuck could be described as generally acting fatherly. senshi can also easily be described as motherly with the way he takes care of the party members. this especially comes out from both of them when taking care of izutsumi. it's like w thing among chilshi shippers that they are basically just izu's adoptive mom and dad and I personally find that hard not to see. it's basically like shipping your mommy and daddy together.

ALSO ONCE AGAIN PARALLELS OMG THE PARALLELS. CHILCHUCKS DISTRUST TOWARDS DUNGEONS VS SENSHIS ACCEPTANCE OF THEM. THE IMPORTANCE SENSHI HOLDS IN SELFCARE ESPECIALLY FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS VS CHILCHUCKS MASSIVE SELF NEGLECT ALSO STARTED ORIGINALLY FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS.

uuuh sorry for talking about chilshi for 4 paragraphs I'm biased.

Questions for the dungeon meshi fans about ✨️fandom ships✨️ (and other stuff):

1) falin×marcille are cannon, like, it's obvious falin have feelings, same for marcille but she's oblivious. HOwEVeRe, how is Laios and kabru a thing ? I agree they are cute, and its tempting, but except the friendship confession, nothing really scream "lovers vibe". A need proofs guys. Why?

2) Alsoooo why is Kabru trans in the fandom ?

It's a real question.

What is the brain process ? 🔵 🫦🔵

3) finally.... guys..... senshi and chilchuck 😦😧... some of you are freaky

Chilchuck is a dad still in love with his wife (you bunch of homewrecker!!) And Senshi thought for half the season that Chilchuck was a KID 🥲

Nope. I dissociated with this. I don't like this.

I need answers.....

[ineedacalicocat]

I totally agree with you. The way they always continuously trying for years to prove that jk is gay is seriously insane. He said his ideal type is iu. His 2019 scandal was there too. The way he was back hugging that tattoo girl...when his boyfriend jimin was on his own vacation with his friends out of the country... enjoying his time playing games with girls in a club..and jimin even went on this trip when jk's birthday was also coming at that time...yes he came Back to celebrate with him but it's a great brother and a great friend behaviour not at all a couply one...bcs your partner never wants to leave you alone on your special day at all to begin with if it's not for any important work...which clearly was not the case. What kind of a relationship was this??? I don't think any couple would be okay with this kind of things. But if you say this to these shippers...they come up with "oh you don't know about the space in a relationship, you don't know how a relationship works" okay then maybe i really don't. But m not okay with my boyfriend going on a trip and playing games and drinking with strangers in a club like that...leaving me alone when my birthday was just days away.. And m also not okay with me being huggy huggy with someone else when my boyfriend was out of the country. This shows how they're not a couple that time too... at least for me. It's always jimin who shows open care towards jk. Jk barely initiates any physical touch with jimin...it's always jimin first. He sometimes ignores jimin like jm doesn't even exist.

yeah actually the old jikookers at the end of or middle of 2018 started saying this and many of them left the fandom at that time some of them stopped shipping them in 2019 but because of the content from bighit some of that forgot about these things and contuniued shipping again. Jikookers dont talk about this cause deep down they also know that they are not boyfriends or anything of sort. Jungkook even that time in 2019 would draw thing that girl drew. He drew a moon with starts it was literally what that girl drew. She also wore jungkooks tshirt and got red roses from him. She would post it. But now you cant even find her insta. When that thing happened. That drama with armies literally treating her just because she is jungkkooks girlfriend. Like really??? i dont get this pls they want them to be gay so bad they want them to fuck their own member so bad like this is fetish to me what the actual fuck??? I mean korean fans or some int fans doent want them to have girlfriends okay they are also problem but shippers are a different cause lite what the actual fuck? He literally wrote my time after that when you hear that song you can actually feel things. I even felt sad. In 2019 I actually at some point stopped shipping but didnt say what i actual thought because fandom and shippers lost it. They lost heir minds. You cant even talk about some stuff here. They go defense mode. For the first time jungkook sang something with feelings. Usually i dont like his voice i mean he is teh ost stable but he lacks emotions contrast to the jimin. Where jimin usually sings with his heart like you can feel everything. But jungkook? meh? Im not talkin about his vocal range or technic. He is maybe better on that part. But he just sings very breathy sometimes and there is nothing to add more. he just sings you know what i mean? You dont get any butterflies. But some songs he sings sometimes with emotions but its rare.

[heretic-saint-taliesin]

ohhhhh my gods that shipping post resonated so hard with me; i am Exhausted by the trend this fandom has taken lately to make everything about ships ships ships all the time etc

pls; i really just wanna enjoy this interesting story about interesting characters ;-;

Okay so like not at you directly but you're gonna get my lil soapbox.

I honest to god CANNOT STAND the vast majority of current BSD fandom because of the shipping that seems to permeate every single aspect of how they want to interact with things.

Ignoring the outright woobification of certain characters (Chuuya, Dazai (and im no fan of canon dazai but fanon dazai is absolutely abhorrent) Fyodor and Akutagawa to name but a few the insistance that everything HAS to boil down to [REDACTED NAME BUT YOU KNOW THE SHIP] or its counterparts really boils my blood.

You're presented with a manga where unlike other anthropomorphic concept storylines (insert name of the one with the countries. again. you know it) the characters are, for the most part at least, ACTUALLY GENUINE HOMAGES to their literary inspirations. The elements of Raskolnikov in Fyodor. The notes to Gatsby in Fitzgerald. The ways in which Asagiri has genuinely and lovingly put time and EFFORT into knowing these authors and respecting their works and paying tribute to that in his character design.

And y'all just wanna boil it down to who takes it in the ass in bed. Real mature. Like I KNOW this fandom skews uncomfortably young given the media's theme (and i'm not here to bash on 14 yos i just don't want you in my space because I'm an adult with boundaries) but there is NOTHING to stop you from like.. enjoying media for what it is. Not everything has to be a gay ship. Yeah shipping can be fun but it does not have to be the be-all-end-all of something. It can just be a fun aside.

Plus the need to then.. inflict that on others? Like? Don't. It's rude and some of the fans have bad enough sense of boundaries as is. harassing the creator is outright sick and rude and nobody should be condoning that. It's not YOUR story. It's Asagiri's and I still trust that he knows where he's going with it. Nothing HAS to cater to your ships. To be quite frank a lot of [REDACTED] should be freaking grateful a lot of the mainstream merch and marketing actually DOES cater to their favourites! Some of us who enjoy the non-main-four have sat around watching you guys get priority with Stormbringer and BEAST and Fifteen when all we'd really like is to see 55min or just SOMETHING a little more different.

Appreciate what you have and don't get greedy!

The load of people lambasting Asagiri for not bringing back chuuya? You wanna know when I last saw MY favourite? CHAPTER TWELVE. AND SHE DIDN'T GET HER ONE MAINSTREAM APPEARANCE ANIMATED.

Added to which like... Shipping just makes everything so toxic. Some people are in this for other reasons (OCs, the literature, or maybe just the story itself??) and we dont want to have to go through hearing how you're whinging over all this. We just wanna enjoy the story.

That's my two cents rant. Apologies it's nothing on you for asking. I just feel very VERY strongly about this lol.

[egg-emperor]

My dude, its not that your content is boring, or you are a bad writer, or that people hate you. Quite the contrary, you are incredibly creative and passionate and that is always a delight to see. The thing is you are on a dying website on a fandom that tends to be the butt of jokes (so most people dont want to be associated with it) and you write about one of the last popular characters there. Its a niche community, thats why your posts dont reach a big audience. (1/2)

I can't help but feel that way lately ever since my instrusive thoughts came back bad the worst they've ever been and it feels like everyone is proving all the horrible things my mind is telling me about myself and my work to be true. It just seems like people don't really care about what I have to offer anymore, like I can't entertain anymore so now I'm worthless. The idea that my creations that make me happy makes others happy too is one of the only things that kept me going and motivated to share more but it feels like it's dwindling. I appreciate you and everyone else that has been supporting me and I'm glad you still enjoy my content. I don't want to seem ungrateful but my mind is being nasty to me and seeing how a lot of people seem to be losing interest across all three of my blogs more than ever is getting me down even more.

It's a shame that the site is dying when Twitter is garbage that kills the passion and creativity of many. Yeah that might be a part of it but I definitely have a more active follower base than it seems most of the time. I notice this when a bunch of people following me only like/rb/interact with stuff I reblog and clearly scroll past my self made posts in between. And yeah Eggman isn't that popular, especially not modern/game canon. But I'm even starting to feel like an outcast to the Eggman fandom space here (despite being here before most since 2015 when there were barely any Eggman posting blogs. I was the one accused of gatekeeping for not liking jimbotnik but I'm the one feeling pushed out and alienated now lol) because I don't like the movie and I'm not big on the popular romantic ships, headcanons, and fanon interpretations now. It just feels like everything I do is wrong and what I have to offer is never good enough, or the interest doesn't last because I don't do all the new things that are considered cool now.

Undoubtedly part of it is also that I write more. But fuck man, art is hard and even harder when you have to digitalize it on a phone. It's become more stressful than fun so I can't do it a lot. I just wish that fandoms didn't always make creators feel like writing doesn't matter and isn't as good as art. I've seen people entirely disregard writing and automatically assume it to be trash just because it isn't art. And a lot of people don't tend to support writing like they do with art, even if they do like it. But I wish people understood that creators need at least some support if they want them to keep creating, otherwise they won't think it's worth it or anyone cares. We're not mindless content machines to pump out content and entertain until people get bored of us. Both art and writing takes time, passion, and effort and a bit of support goes a long way but sometimes you get nothing but silence and it can be more crushing than hate at times, left to wonder if your creations were even worth your time to create or anyone else's to consume.

But aside from that, what also gets me down is that I do actually see people supporting other's writing and encourage more from them but I don't get any of that type of support, feedback, or criticism from those very same people when it comes to mine, despite them being so similar. I tend to get brushed off or ignored or nowhere near as much hype. And I know it sounds like jealousy but it honestly just makes wonder what, is it just my stuff specifically that's just not good enough for them? And it just never seems good enough, no matter how hard I try. I realize there are times it is in fact personal and I have no idea why because they don't tell me and I feel terrible when it ends up confirming my fears, then I worry if it's always the case. That's the stuff that hurts the most, more than people just outright telling me if they don't like or aren't interested in my stuff anymore, which would hurt less.

I know not everyone thinks I should die really but it's easy to think that way in times where I get insults and suicide bait from people shitting on me and what I do more than I get positive or supportive comments. So that's why it feels like people just want me to die, I'm told so in my inbox. I'm not saying I demand endless high praise but just someone simply saying they enjoyed something I posted instead of just silence has a way bigger positive impact than they think but some don't anymore. And if there's a reason why or it isn't personal, I wish they'd tell me so it puts my mind to rest, instead of pretending I don't see blatant disinterest or the ignoring that drives me mad and kills motivation. The hateful people are more vocal and then it feels like nobody else cares and it drags me down.

I swear some people, both general followers and some people I'm closer to are just losing interest and getting sick of me personally and it's hard seeing it happen and seemingly being unable to do anything, making it feel like my time of being capable of doing anything good and likable in their eyes has passed. And it's just hard accepting that and letting it go, especially when you never get the real answers and you're left wondering what went wrong and why you're not good enough anymore. I've had moments of realization where my heart sinks when I present something I'm proud of and I get unenthusiastic responses or silence. And feeling either people drift away or being insulted more often than anything positive gives my sick brain a lot to work with in further attacking me with nasty intrusive thoughts too. But like I said, that last part is on me and I feel I'm just genuinely too mentally ill to handle being on the internet.

I appreciate all of you that do support me and my passion and creations, it might just look silly on the surface with my rambling and gushing but what I create is important to me and it means the world to me that it's enjoyed by anyone else. It gets tough with my mind and negativity I receive but I try not to lose sight of the positive things or forget people enjoy my work, which makes it worth turning my passion and ideas into something I can share. I'm trying to get better at not letting negative and hateful stuff matter and only value the good but sometimes when I'm already dealing with enough privately and come online and see this happening too, it's the little extra push I need to reach the breaking point. But at the same time, when I'm in some of my darkest places with things I don't talk about, coming online and seeing kind words and knowing my stuff is enjoyed means everything and manages to put a smile on my face, no matter how awful I feel. And that's what keeps me creating and sharing for as long as I'm here. Thank you. 💜

[kal-thas]

yknow, as i was reading through it, i was like 'wow this couldve been easily avoided if she had just used mikey or gerard instead...well.. people dont really get as defensive over them' and its. yeah. three of four are white. and sure, mikeys been ignored more than gerard or frank, but not nearly as much as ray, not in the fandom spaces. its gotten better recently, but even still, theres a prevalence of 'not white, not skinny, cant woobify ray, so im gonna just pretend he isnt there.'

like, i remember when i first started getting into mcr, and reading fic and whatever, ray just. wasnt there half the time.

its not the "hes not my favorite, and my favorite is right there", its the fact that ray has constantly been undervalued and ignored, for years. hell, sometimes now i still write him in and feel like his characterization is so. 2d compared to the rest of them, bc i build characters off of fandom stuff, i take little bits that people have said that really stuck with me and try to work it in. and hes still talked about less than the others (at least by volume of how much ive seen/read about the others) that sometimes im like. wow this isnt great. what else do you need my guy?? like??

anyway i got a little off there but you get the point. hen couldntve used mikey as an example instead of ray because the ignorance of mikey isnt rooted in racism and thus people dont get As upset about it. also because as long as i can remember there have always been mikey girls, even as few as they were, but i dont remember many ray girls, not until recently.

hey! did you wake up this morning for the mcr concert and think - why was everyone discussing frank, ray, and racism? or maybe you didn’t. anyways here’s why

yesterday a frank blogger (skinofthecanvas) made a post about someone jokingly being rude about frank in the tags of a post, and decided the best way to go about expressing her frustration was by comparing people ignoring frank to actual racism.

this was met with a ton of comments, literally all of which were very respectful, trying to articulate the issue within the post

(sorry if theyre out of order btw)

unfortunately, despite the fact that op of this post is fully 23 years old and should probably be able to deduce that this wasnt an okay thing to say, she has not backed down

as of the horrors, she hasn’t acknowledged this at all and has even gone to block several mutuals before they could speak up on her post…. so i thought i’d organize all of this into one post and ask people to boost.

ignoring a racism discussion and reblogging like two pictures of ray does not do shit for actual racism influencing how you post how you talk etc, i have no good way to conclude this post im just really fucking annoyed

[jeanvanjer]

First of all, none of this is directed at you, just opinions I am sharing with you.

It's not just about being respectful, don't hate etc. That's a given, it's basic human decency. My problem is with people condescending to upset fans and making sweeping generalizations that all criticism is hate.

Your opinions or feelings are yours alone and they may be the best way for you to deal with things. But people will feel differently and react differently, so let's just stop preaching. If you disagree with the criticism of the PR that's your call, but others have the right to voice their opinions.

In a group of 100, 2 may send hate and 98 may have genuine criticism or grievances. Block those 2 but hear the rest because their opinions matter.

In a group of 100, 98 may send hate and 2 may have genuine criticisms. Those 2 people also matter.

Let's not drown out any concerns by labeling it all as hate and grouping everyone in the same category. Let people voice dissent, dont ridicule, shame or dismiss their concerns because you didn't find it problematic.

You Zara are a wonderful person who engages with people even when you disagree. But there are people in the fandom going about preaching to others how awful they are because of some haters on twitter. And I say this with a lot of respect that let's all get off our moral high horses and remember, if we muzzle all dissenting voices we'll be stuck in an echo chamber. And do we really want that?

Sorry about the long rant but I am tired of being made to feel guilty for having opinions or feelings. And it's sad I have to spell it out but sending hate is never okay.

Anyway I hope you know I love your blog. And I apologize if I upset or offended you by this post, I meant nothing of that sort. Love❤

It takes a lot to offend or upset me. At least to a point where I’ll react publicly (this is a lie). But your ask made me feel nothing of that. I appreciate your love for my shit blog 😂 but rethink your life choices. Jk. Thank you.

Again everyone has the right to use their space how they want. Freedom of speech and all that. I think that there are people that shouldn’t worry about the criticism being directly/indirectly pointed at them? Like you do you and if you ever see a post where you feel unjustly targeted then just ignore it. You shouldn’t feel guilty at all imo. I mean people have the right to “preach” and people have the right to ignore that preach.

I think it’s always healthy to see any situation for all angles. A few days back I made a very emotional, for me, post about the optics of the pr. And I saw different posts about it and I reflected that back and thought, how is this relating back to me? Made me realize how much I was projecting from my own insecurities and issues into this pr drama and moved back from it.

It’s taken me a long time, growing up, to not let peoples opinions matter to me. I mean there will always be those around with opposing views and we can either engage and say “hey we think differently and that’s fine” or just move on. Curate your space. If your opinion or views isn’t hateful/racist/homophobic then I don’t think anyone should be too worried about opposing posts/voices. But yeah be respectful and mindful of what you put out there. I luckily haven’t seen people go twitter level crazy here(or maybe that’s just my feed) and I hope I never do.

Anyways I hope you aren’t getting hate. Or anyone really. That’s never fun. I mean I got some hate asks yesterday but I got a real good laugh out of that and pressed “delete”.

[anti-katsuki-lounge]

wow, that other anon talking about how they talked with their friends about "the character derailment that plagues fanfic" or whatever made me feel an incredibly deep, visceral level of fury that i almost never encounter bc of dumb people online. is it okay if i respond to them here? if not, just delete this ask and dw about it

first of all, all fanwork is self indulgent. fanart, fanfic, fan music, etc, its all made bc the creature likes the original character or work and they want to see more content for it. specifically, they want to see content that suits their taste, whether its something that they can relate to more than the original work or if its just something they want to see more of. (like the dadzawa dynamic! i fully accept that it's not canon, but i love dadzawa fics anyways bc they just make me happy)

now, what really pissed me off was the implication that there's an "acceptable" level of trans representation that all fic authors should strive for. that level being, the one that suits YOUR tastes. if you dont want to read fic where the characters are trans in a way that effects the plot, their personality, and their day to day likes (read: a realistic portrayal of life as a trans person), then dont read it! but it's really messed up to say, or at least imply, that no one should write it/any fanfic that doesnt adhere to the canon characters' exact personalities. if people wanted to read the exact portrayal that canon provides, then they'd read canon! people read fanfic because they want different interpretations, not the same stuff over and over again!

i wont say that you're transphobic for saying that, because i dont think you are. i just think you're ignorant and wrong. also, it is literally so easy to avoid the minority of fics that have trans characters in them and just read the other million that are out there instead. i have no idea why you decided to bring gender politics up on an anti-bakugo meme page when you couldve (and basically did) make your point completely clear without it. sorry to continue to bring this stuff up, i dont want to start an argument about transphobia in fandom spaces on an anti-bakugo meme page, but it didnt sit right with me that that comment was just brushed off.

It’s ok. I’ll leave this here.

Also yeah, I have no issues with people adding traits to characters for fanfiction cause fanfics are meant to be self indulgent. “Don’t like, don’t read” comes to mind when I encounter something I don’t like or doesn’t interest me like Dadzawa. I personally don’t like how many fans like to make All Might into a shitty person while ignoring Shota’s faults, but I’m not going to do anything except complain on the internet in my own space 🤷‍♂️. If y’all like that sort of thing, I ain’t going to invade your spaces and judge you.

The trans thing however is obviously different as people use fanfics to write the stories they wish existed and to detail their experiences in a fictional setting. I think it’s great that people have found their voices through something like fanfics. It’s self indulgence at the end of the day. Wanna write a fic where nearly everyone is in the LGBTQ+ community and that’s the norm? Go right ahead. Hell, I even encourage it ‘cause despite the negative rep Fanfiction as a whole gets, I think it’s a really healthy medium to express the thoughts you wish to express. Fanfiction can help you find the communities you want to be a part of and help you put into words the things you wanna say. A fic that supports hate and/or something unhealthy is different, but trans/LGBTQ+ support fics are obviously not in this category.