#online radicalization

[profeminist]

Photo ID: alteration of famous photo of Woody Guthrie and his guitar with "This Guitar Kills Fascists" written on it, which he added in 1943. In this version it is Facebook/Meta owner Mark Zuckerberg, and the guitar says, "This algorithm breeds fascists."

[vaguely-problematic]

a u.s. supreme court case for 2023 may change the internet. legal eagle (above video) explains.

Gonzalez v. Google LLC is about whether youtube can be held liable for the content that its algorithm recommends to viewers. it involves a terrorist attack by isis and the fact that youtube was recommending isis videos to its users.

[shinobicyrus]

What I take from this is that JK Rowling actually has the discipline to stop posting transphobic shit for an extended period of time. Unlike her potential co-defendant Musk, who seems physically incapable of not posting on twitter for a goddamn second, JK Rowling is able to just stop entirely. This tells us two things:

JK Rowling has enough self-restraint to stop posting if there is a personal, financial, and/or legal reason to do so.

Years of people, including long time former fans, begging her to stop posting dangerous and bigoted lies about trans people that has eroded their rights and tangibly made their lives more dangerous across the world wasn't enough to get to her stop.

it really took a whole ass lawsuit for her to shut her fucking mouth

[myopicry]

lurking in radfem spaces has really changed my entire view of most mainstream internet spaces because once you realize just how censored women's voices and feminist thought are on these sites, and how much porn and misogynistic values are defended, you can't unsee it.

how anyone can bear to participate in an online space where porn, of all things, is lauded as the bastion of "self-expression" and yet any woman slightly critical of popular cultural opinions is demonized is wild, especially when a lot of that porn is a) violent and misogynistic b) often accessible by minors c) gross and shallow d) myriad of other reasons far better writers have probably described

fuck I'm just so tired. seeking rationality online is just opening a pandora's box of garbage and seeing the reflection of how bleak the social hegemony has become.

[dirtied-perception]

[tervenbutch]

“y’all hate days of girlhood but ate up (insert girly pop song by female artist)” yes because those songs were written by actual women. hope this helps❤️

[moidsmalding]

I can’t believe it took me years to realise this but

Men find it absolutely hilarious when women/girls use “bro” “dude” “fam” “guys” to refer to others, in the most derisive way possible.

Every damn day I unwillingly overhear my youngest brother’s conversations with his xbox friends because the walls are thin and he has no damn volume control and there’s a girl who plays with them. When she isn’t online, they say the most demeaning things – not in a sexual way (I pray) but they’re always mocking her, criticising her gameplay and just clearly hate her guts.

(which makes me wonder why they don’t just unfriend her and kick her out of the party if they hate her so much, then hopefully she can find some better friends…poor kid)

Anyways this one time they were talking about how she always tries to act like one of them. Like she’s their bro. Like she’s a man. And it absolutely pissed them off. But they were laughing too. All ‘hah she really thinks she’s a guy. she thinks she’s our equal. she sounds so stupid. why do girls always talk like this lololol. let’s show her her real place and knock her down a few pegs in our next match. when she asks for an assist let’s just ignore her’

Fucking bleak. But it made me wonder how common of a thought this is for males. Women and girls using bro-talk is rampant on the internet and also in person, even with no y chromosomes in the equation.

[pat-lechem]

when self proclaimed radical "leftists" do anything but celebrate the elimination of sinwar, the term "leftist" loses more of its meaning.

for years radical leftists online kept talking about "punching nazis", about how nazis shouldn't be talked to or reasoned with, only eliminated. yet now they (some of them, hashtag not all radical leftists) are upset, angry, or sad, about the elimination of a real, murderous, nazi. one responsible for the murder of many jews, for being jewish. one responsible for brainwashing/indoctrinating gazan youths into extreme antisemitism and nazism. how are radical leftists not celebrating the literal leftist, anti nazi, praxis?

how can anyone claim to be leftist while mourning a nazi? are they only mourning a nazi because he happens to be arab? that's very racist, against arabs as well as against jews.

it's not like they see anything wrong with celebrating death. they've celebrated the death of 96 years old queen elizabeth. sinwar treated his own people terribly, much worse than queen elizabeth ever has. he was responsible for murdering political opponents, oppressing lgbtq people in gaza, oppressing women, mass child abuse (for example, using child labour in digging tunnels which has resulted in death and illness of some of those children).

western idiots mourning sinwars death are not only antisemitic supporters of a nazi, they also express support of a far-right politician, of tyranny, oppression of and discrimination against women and lgbtq people, child labour, etc.

[here-comes-the-moose]

The Bad Batch makes even more sense when you remember that they’re basically all in their twenties.

[femmesandhoney]

"Online communities that are predominantly composed of younger female users have developed dialects that sound more intimate, warm, and amenable" (Jeong & Lee, 2018). It will always amaze me that when women get together, we find ways to express closeness and emotions that favor community-bonding, whereas men get together and do everything possible with their language to disparage, hurt, and push away even other men. Miserable existences.

[balkanradfem]

I've been missing some of my favourite women on youtube; they either post extremely rarely, or are completely off the platform, like Lindsay Ellis. After the brutal and misogynistic treatment of Lindsay, I noticed the amount of long video essays by women lessened, as I expected it to. SarahZ was posting less too, Jenny Nicholson's videos became a rarity, and some creators publicly commented about how debilitating it was to create while knowing they will be attacked from every angle, by m*n who were enraged that women are saying things online. I thought women became too stressed and afraid to create, until I realized they simply moved into the private sphere. Nebula and Patreon, there they would have a very limited, paying audience who was safe for them, and they wouldn't be exposed to this level of harassment, as their content is not free anymore.

I think it was a great move by all of them, to move where it's safe for them to create and make a living out of it, but it showed me that women are still only allowed to exist in private. Women are chased away from the public sphere brutally, and they have to create private spaces to be able to talk. M*n, on the other hand, are still freely making long video essays using next to no braincells and adding so much misogyny and male stupidity into it, that it's unwacthable. But they get to do it, they get to be paid for it, publicly, with maybe a tiny percentage of harassment women suffer. They get to shower the public with mediocre, unfunny, dumbed down, sexist and gross content and nobody will do a thing about it. Meanwhile women creating engaging, funny, educational, insightful, extremely well researched and presented content, will be exposed to hatred that will shut them down, and move them into private spaces.

It made me so mad, and so helpless to think about this, and I concluded that in response to this insanity, we should be allowed to disband the males. And by this I mean, we should get to close down every male-made public institution and organization. We should get to shut down male governments, we should get to shut down male wars, corporations, mafia, pornography and human trafficking rings, studios, companies, stores, it should all be made illegal overnight, defunded, disbanded, and shut down instantly. That would be equality because clearly they can and do it to us constantly. And we'd make a new system so fast anyway, and it would have so much less stupidity, so much less murder, it would be freaking incredible. And they'd be mad because in the new system, they would no longer be able to rape and murder as much, there would be less wars so they don't get to go and steal resources and human lives anymore, they wouldn't be able to get brainrot of pornography, boo. They created a system that doesn't even do them any good, it just makes them sick. It should all go down. Fuck their shit. We should get to rule everything. And youtube should be female-only. M*n can talk in private.

[dworkinlover]

I need to rant about the uptick I've noticed in men claiming that men are actally more oppressed than women. both online and in person.

the fact that a crazy amount of gen z men are so lacking in empathy that they literally acknowledge that patriarchy is harmful but then flip the narrative to say that it hurts THEM more than it hurts us... I don't even know what to say. there is no logical debate with these types. they have the ability to rationally understand concepts like rape culture, yet they are so selfish that they continue to believe that they have it worse. they complain that feminists make ourselves out to be victims, then proceed to do that exact thing, except worse because it doesn't even have any bearing to reality. women cite examples like Afghanistan; they cite Joe Rogan.

check out r/everydaymisandry if you feel like being mad today. I want to claw my eyes out and slit the throats of every man on there. how is this happening to my generation??

[myopicry]

I can't stay away from tumblr because I like reading radfem and gender critical blogs (and also I live here unfortunately just by virtue of being a gay loser artist) and this is the most populated place for that kind of discussion, but holy shit it gets so bleak seeing just how easily radfems are strawmanned and how the most popular posts on this website are still so deeply entrenched in very cognitively dissonant thought built on misogyny and refuses to engage with any kind of opposition or critique.

I believe in healthy discourse and discussion! I want to hear people's arguments and insights and learn why people believe certain things! but one (very large, very popular) ideological side of this website is so fundamentally incurious and hostile towards changing their minds at all, and there's just such a lack of what could be a really productive public forum where feminist and progressive thought could be freely discussed, this being a women-dominated and same-sex attraction dominated website and all. especially because it's already so difficult to discuss those kinds of things in real life as the majority of people don't really care or relate to any of it.

I really wish I could just log off forever sometimes and never have to think about this again. alas, I quite like to think, and the internet is still the best way to find the community and the perspectives which I seek. born to participate in community and discussion of theory, forced to gaze upon a field of strawmen alone (⌣_⌣”)

[nerdomancer]

we as a society are never going to stop a backslide into straight up fascism if we can't get past the idea that it's possible to simply preemptively punish someone into being good (and then if they're not good, well, they deserve the punishment!)

[animentality]

In response to your post about radfems and men, a few years ago I started going down the radfem rabbit hole, a lot of this came from being in a community of men who actually /were/ psychopaths, along with having a father and grandfather who were too. I have PPD as well, so seeing these men act this way and having radfems whispering in my ear "All men want to kill you, all men want to kill you" was DETERIORATING me like acid. I cannot describe to you the hell I was living in each day due to paranoia eating away at me. It felt like my own spirit was a chain link fence turning into rust.

Then I met my husband, and he completely changed my life. And yes I know women can save themselves, we aren't all damsels in distress, but I honestly /was/ too bad off to just pull myself out of it. Since fear of men was the biggest thing killing me from the inside out, a man coming along and showing me that I can both trust people AND at least some men, seriously subdued a massive chunk of my rage, hatred and fear. And he really goes above and beyond too! Every problem I have had he has helped me to fix, along with showing me how to do things myself. Some people may not like that it was a man who "rescued" me, but I don't owe it to anyone to be an idyllic girl power success story, I owe it to myself and to our son to not be a terrified wreck.

I mean I have always suspected that radfems and terfs were like this.

Like my going theory is that if you believe men are irredeemable monsters who can only hurt other people all the time, you clearly don't have good relationships, with anyone at all.

That kind of mistrust of your fellow human beings comes from a well of hurt and paranoia that you're not addressing properly.

I'm glad you found someone to help and love you, though. And I don't think it's anti feminist to need someone to rescue you either.

what's so wrong with being saved, no matter who or what does it?

nice metaphor with the chain link fence btw. that'll live on in my mind for a bit.