#once upon a time spoilers
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eve-reviews · 9 months ago
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ㅤ Once Upon a Time is a thirteen-year old’s fanfiction that was found by the creators of Lost and stolen for a show in hopes of making some money off the teen population. If the half-formed faux-edgy characters or bad acting doesn’t sell you on just how poorly this show was made, the terrible CGI definitely will. The first season revolves around a character named Emma Swan, aka The Savior, coming to the town of Storybrooke where her son tries to convince her that the town is actually full of fairytale characters that are under a memory erasing spell. The show has a way of making you forget that you’re watching a fairytale story until later you realize that “Oh! They just had Prince Charming cheat on his wife with Snow White. And then The Evil Queen framed Snow White for the murder of Prince Charming’s wife by hiding that wife’s heart in a box in the place Snow and Charming would always meet.”
ㅤ While the first season seems Wild, each subsequent season tries to outdo itself. The following seasons follow a clear formula constantly trying to convince you that it’s a good show. The creator’s favorite persuasion is to twist the usual fairytale stories and then play a dramatic stinger underneath it as if to convince the viewer to say, “oh shit!” Each time it makes this attempt, I am met with an intense feeling, but not the intended one. It’s a burst of laughter, a burn of secondhand embarrassment, and the impulse to share it with a friend so I don’t have to go through it alone (and may I say, I think my friends are starting to get sick of me).
            The show is held together by attempts to be a show that makes the viewer sit at the edge of the seat waiting to see what happens next. These attempts often involve corrupting or redeeming a “good” or “evil” character respectively. While the show constantly brings in numerous characters from Disney movies or any other existing story for that matter (such as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, or 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea), it seems to forget this sometimes, so we are left with characters who have been corrupted and redeemed 6 times alone (in Rumpelstiltskin’s case).
            Might I also add that the show often does a twist saying that two fairytale characters were actually the same one. If we take Rumpelstiltskin as an example again, he is at least three different characters off the top of my head. He also happens to be the Crocodile from Peter Pan and the Beast from Beauty and the Beast. This isn’t even counting the family tree. Please feel free to skip the rest of this paragraph while I sort that out. Rumpelstiltskin is the son of Peter Pan (who’s evil) and the Black Fairy (who’s the origin of all evil or something?). He has a grandson, Henry, who is also the grandson of Snow White and Prince Charming. Henry also happens to be the adopted son of Regina, aka The Evil Queen. Regina if the daughter of the Queen of hearts and the sister of the Wicked Witch of the West. She’s also Snow White’s step-mother. Regina also happens to be soulmates with Robin Hood, who’s previous wife was sentenced to death by Regina before the curse. And Robin also had a daughter with the Wicked Witch but he didn’t know it was her at the time because she was pretending to be his dead wife.
            I’m stopping myself there. If you read any of that, you now hopefully know how complicated the lore is and how near impossible it is to explain. You may have also gleaned how fucking stupid it is. That was all just a small section of the family tree. The actual lore of this show involves people who are definitively good or evil (but they can be redeemed) and authors who are all powerful gods who control Everything but are also just Some Guy. And of course, a being of pure light magic called The Savior (Emma Swan aka Snow White and Prince Charming’s child) and a being of pure dark magic called The Dark One (Rumplestiltskin). I forced myself through the show. High out of my mind if I had to. And I gotta say, folks.
            I kinda love this show.
            At some point it starts to get confusing what the creators were thinking while making this show. You drive yourself crazy trying to put yourself in their heads. Do they know how dogshit it is? Are they trying to convince me this dogshit is actually fucking ratatouille? Or do they know it’s bad?
            By the end of season 6, I started to get the feeling that the writers had finally decided to accept that no one in the universe would consider this a good show; however, the show must go on so they may as well have fun with it. They finally left behind the attempts and just leaned into how bizarre the lore they’re spun truly is. They timeskip and they say. “Hey. We know that we’ve gone too far. We know we crossed a line somewhere along the way. But buddy? We’re not turning around. We’re gonna find throw back some brewskis and have a little fun.” And they decide to say that, “Actually? All those characters you just saw? The seemingly infinite number of them? That’s just the start. They’re just one of an actually infinite number of that same character that exists in the multiverse. We’re gonna make a new main character and she’s gonna be Cinderella. Yes, I know we already introduced Cinderella in season one. But this is a different Cinderella. From a different thirteen tear old’s fanfiction. “
            And so it becomes a show that clearly knows it’s bad. And I sit there and realize I had fun. And I realize that I’m still having fun. And I realize that that was the point. I spent the whole show taking everything so seriously, and for that, I partially blame the show for taking itself seriously. But somewhere along the way, the show stopped. And I followed suit shortly after. And it was fun.
            I loved watching Once Upon a Time.
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humblefryingpan · 4 months ago
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(Once upon a time au - spoilers for season 3 and I think season 6)
Ngl I kinda loved the Henry/Pan body swap I low-key wish it stayed like that. It probably wouldn't have been great in the actual show but I'd love to see that in a fic/au
Everyone really struggling at fighting Peter because he looks like Henry? Amazing. And I like thinking about if they kept it that way, imagine them trying to raise the kid who looked like their enemy
(this is an angsty and long post)
Rumple looking at his grandson and only seeing his father who betrayed him. Tbh, I don't think he thought of Pan as the same person as his dad in general. Like pre-neverland he only saw him like that twice and it probably would've been more "the boy my dad invented to get rid of me" yk? That's my opinion at least
So Rumpy knowing Henry was supposey fated to kill him and then looking like that guy? He would not have handled that well and I'd have loved to see him having more of a reaction
Killian seeing his stepson and trying to ignore that he looked like the man who killed his brother. Pre-neverland I think he only knew Pan from when he rocked up and tricked him into killing his brother/best friend/only remaining family? So going from that, as well as everything in neverland, to marrying Emma and having to live with someone in Pan's body would've been sad as shit and I'd have loved it. He was dealing with his own guilt a lot when he moved in and I think this would've made it just that little bit worse
Regina and Emma trying to raise their son while looking at the man who kidnapped him. Both of them are definitely "fight first, question later" girls and they would've had to try to unlearn that in order to not hurt their son. Especially since they knew Pan as the guy that kidnapped Henry and the guy that tried to kill them all.
If this happened then the way I'd have done it would be someone finding out he was planning the curse and killing him before he could kill Felix (to stop the curse and also bc I love Felix and I have plans for him). Since he was still in Henry's body when he did the curse I would've said they killed him before he could switch places (I forgot how and when they switched back mb, doesn't affect the au too much right?)
So somebody (Rumple would probably work best but readers choice ig) killed Peter/Malcolm while he was in Henry's body and he got trapped in that body with magic so that he couldn't escape. Since the body would've been messed up when he got killed, Henry stays in Pan's body.
And I mentioned I had plans for Felix - he was clearly very devoted to Pan, like he didn't even get that mad when he killed him. I'm willing to bet that if he survived he still would've defended him. But now "Pan" is actually not Pan, it's the boy Pan wanted to sacrifice and I think Felix would've been pissed about that.
So he'd also be struggling with this entire situation. Losing Pan, but still seeing him in this town. Knowing Henry he'd try to talk to Felix too. Felix would either fully isolate himself, seek revenge on anyone and everyone who took part in Pan's downfall or he'd follow Henry around, trying to cling to any remaining part of Pan's existence. Assuming Regina doesn't kill him that is
Or if you want to stick to the canon show a bit more then Rumpy could kill him after the curse was cast but before he could turn back to himself.
And side note- Peter actually looks more like Emma and Neal's kid tbh. Like Henry looks sort of like Regina's son, and I see the snow white in him, but I don't see the Emma yk? So in the "Emma loses her memory again and thinks she's a regular parent" storyline she'd just assume he turned out more like her, Regina could alter her memory into thinking he always looked like that anyway.
And in that version she'd have the two versions of her memory. One where she sees her son as he always was and then getting the memory of who he actually was dumped on her. And struggling even more with seeing both simultaneously, even worse because Henry also wouldn't remember.
Which brings me to the point of - imagine Henry trying to grow up looking like the guy that took advantage of his kindness like that? Every time he looked in a mirror he'd see Pan instead of himself (and there are a lot of mirrors around when you're being raised by the former evil queen).
He'd see everyone struggling to adjust to him, he'd know why, and he'd probably feel insanely awful about it. He blamed himself for Neverland anyway, now he'd blame himself for everyone's discomfort.
And like I said at the start of this lil au infodump, I don't think it would've worked long term in the actual show. I don't think the writers could've got it to work in some of the storylines, but Pan-Henry has been rattling around in my brain like a lego stuck in a jar since I first watched it. Basically I want everyone to be sadder and I want more Pan, the angst potential in this is incredible to me.
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pumpernickel-simswood · 9 months ago
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I'm on season seven, episode four of Once Upon A Time and are you absolutely kidding me!? They're dragging Up into this!? For part of how much of a "good man" Rumple is?! Screw all the way off! Jfc.
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thepunkmuppet · 1 year ago
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finally watching once upon a time and REALLY enjoying it so far!!!
regina and emma are lesbian as fuck, the guy playing rumpelstiltskin is a proper force of nature he’s AWESOME, and I actually adore mary margaret / snow white and the prince, those are some top tier straight people right there
regina is really compelling to me, as are mary margaret and james as I said, and I’m enjoying the sort of double storytelling with the modern world and the fairytale world. hoping that there’s an edit of all the flashbacks in order somewhere online though, because we’re jumping around a lot and I think with this many seasons it will get confusing very quickly!!
also loving the ongoing mystery of whether regina and mr gold remember their fairytale lives, makes for some interestingly dubious character motivations. I’m honestly obsessed with regina I can’t even lie she’s such a melodramatic bitch lmao
can’t get behind graeme and emma though, like they have ok chemistry but the writing really doesn’t serve them, they just spring it upon you and expect you to believe they have this connection which they just… don’t??
EDIT BC I WAS WATCHING WHILE TYPING THIS, REGINA DOES REMEMBER HER OLD LIFE AND OH SHIT GRAEME’S FUCKING DEAD RIP KING
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fluffybunbunposts · 1 year ago
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I was thinking about Once Upon A Time (as one does) (oh also spoilers) and I’m just now realising how much of an anomaly Dr. Whale is??? Like mostly everyone else came from the magical fairytale Disney land but then there’s just,, Mr. Frankenstein.
Also it probably explains this somewhere and I just don’t remember but why was he taken to storybrook he wasn’t even in the enchanted forest at that time?? He was just chilling in his basement trying to revive his dead brother? His motivation to help Regina revive her old boyfriend was “if I help her maybe she’ll send me home and I can keep trying to revive my brother” but then he just,, isn’t sent back. He just stays there.
Also why do they keep referring to him as Dr. Whale post season 1? Like everyone else reverted back to their original names but they’re all still pretending he has a medical licence for some reason??
also I love how the shows explanation of why he suddenly had white hair for a few episodes (I think the actor was working on like a zombie movie or something?) was just,,, he felt like it. He’s like “oh so when Emma gets white hair everyone thinks it’s cool but when I do-“ like sir Emma (spoilers) turned evil. You’re just copying her look. Also that’s not important right now you’re here to do an ultrasound.
Anyway he’s such an anomaly, I love him.
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aveline-amelia · 10 months ago
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You may think you have bad luck with ships...
But have you ever shipped a small ship that was sort of hated on in fandom but mostly just not considered and then suddenly when you're not into the show that much anymore it goes... semi-canon when they hook up but one half of the ship is actually the evil alterego split using a Jekyll & Hyde potion and the other half is basically just using her while being hung up on his ex wife?
And the "good side" still only has a platonic relationship with him but she deduces the two of them are a thing and has to announce to like the whole cast of characters that they always had chemistry and they are all super shocked and/or make grossed out faces?
And the fandom is joining in about how gross this thing is because the man had an affair with the women's mother and was speculated to be her father for years despite that fact being debunked in the very episode and he was also kept as a slave non consensually by her sister who had a thing for him and he tried to seduce her in order to escape?
And you don't know how you feel because you never had any hope in the first place and also you never expected to be right and this is like the worst way for it to happen ever but you'll take what you can get? Like this is supposed to be Your Moment.
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thegreygale · 9 months ago
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So random Once Upon a Time question, with the whole Regina being the queen of the United Realms thing, does that mean that any other kingdoms and monarchies were dissolved and it’s all one kingdom(queendom?) with Regina at the head or is it more of a High Queen situation where the other kingdoms still exist and have their respective monarchs but they all answer to her?
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how-masterful · 1 year ago
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I genuinely cannot belive I'm half way through series 3 of OUAT and not only has my opinion on Hook changed but now we're in fucking OZ???
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the-prettyboy-chronicles · 2 years ago
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WAS SOMEONE GONNA TELL ME THAT ALICE IS CANONICALLY FRUITY CUZ I HAD ALREADY DECIDED SHE IS BUT AAAAAA!!!!
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egophiliac · 1 year ago
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this is basically what happened, right?
(these guys are very lucky that everyone at NRC 1) has the combined intelligence of a sack of bricks, and 2) is easily distracted by shiny things.)
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#art#twisted wonderland#twisted wonderland spoilers#stage in playful land#stage in playfulland#these two are SO sleazy and i am utterly delighted by them#can't wait to find out their tragic backstory in approximately 3-4 weeks!#fortunately i have like a month to figure out how the heck to draw their hair (spoiler: i will never figure it out)#also. god. i love it whenever leona accidentally reveals his Mom Side.#he doesn't care about any of this but he WILL be tagging along to make sure no one else gets into trouble#once again he has to be the Responsible Adult and he hates it. the whimsical hat weighs heavy upon his head.#anyway this is me so excuse me while i now talk about diasomnia for three hours#but lilia being all 'kids gotta have some adventure in their lives!' is hilarious#specifically because you know silver would NEVER.#100% silver not only never snuck out but he always went to bed on time AND brushed his teeth AND flossed even when nobody made him.#lilia: aww but you should be enjoying your youth! >:c#silver: i am. i enjoy being respectful and disciplined and honoring you as my father.#lilia:#lilia: maybe i'm TOO good at raising kids#you know i was going to say none of his kids would be involved in this but i actually think malleus definitely would#he would not see it as a moral quandry though. he would just be excited to be invited along.#(the only reason he isn't there is because he was busy admiring a termite-infested beam somewhere and yuu didn't get a chance to ask him)#i mean MAYBE if lilia as his single authority figure told him no then he would have some reservations#but lilia's the one who's screaming HELL YEAH LET'S SNEAK OUT AND DEFY AUTHORITY while dabbing so moot point there#sebek would never and he would rat on everyone else. unless malleus is going in which case he's already there.#and i guess if everyone else is going silver probably would too#but he'd. y'know. feel conflicted about it.
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softestaries · 6 months ago
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Addam, very confused and running away from a large dragon that's targetting him specifically: AAAAaaagyyyyyAHHHHH
Seasmoke, chasing after his new rider who for some reason wants to play chase: why are you running? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING?
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slymanner · 1 year ago
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hurt my heart why dontcha.
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felassan · 4 months ago
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"As we go through it we will find fragments of the past, things that Solas did previously that will give us insight into him as a character, and also into the elven gods and their motivations. If you go exploring in the Crossroads there are opportunities to relive some of the memories Solas had during his rebellion. We will actually get to take part in this ancient rebellion."
I cast Summon Flashback Felassan. show me Felassan in Solas' past, helping Solas during his ancient rebellion 🕯️🛐🕯️🛐
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thepunkmuppet · 1 year ago
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this feels like a crossover fever dream…. pookie harry groener just casually showing up for one episode (so under-utilised it’s an absolute crime, but whatever he still ate), beloved buffy writer jane espenson being a producer and writer, sebastian stan apparently being a major role down the line, and FUCKING TESS FROM ROSWELL BEING BELLE?? sorry I’m sure the actress is absolutely lovely and she’s for sure talented but also GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME BITCH I STILL HAVEN’T FORGIVEN YOU
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camthecatchameleon · 1 year ago
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ah i can finally post these
also all of these were drawn before i caught up to the most recent episode (49) so if anything i've drawn is overly close to existing art i'm sorry but i straight up would not have known smiley face uhhhhhh anyways
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^ i dont know that the fuck was wrong with my but i did this with a 1px lineart.
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source: this post
below: a bunch of doodles in my (digital) latin textbook
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also: a bunch of notebook doodles during japanese school yes i have a problem
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agir1ukn0w · 8 months ago
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these spot the difference games are getting harder
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