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No more mediocre Sad Dad games please.
These ultra-linear sad dad games are 100% them knowing that they don't have to do cool open worlds or crazy set-pieces if you're crying about a sad dad so much you're ignoring shit stealth mechanics and bad enemy AI.
Suddenly everyone who writes video games is Spielberg and saying something really important as a sad dad argues with someone while slowly walking happens.
I blame Naughty Dog for this, because it's all they've ever done, and it has never been good, but I am apparently the only person on earth who doesn't like it.
People bitch about how all the shooterbro games are now ultra-linear and hand-holdy and boring. But then a sad dad kills a rapist and 10/10, certified queer icon or something.
I admit I am an open world guy, I like when I can run around and find exploits and emergent gameplay. And linear narratives are fine, in theory. But you need to get to something like a From Software middle, where you are telling a story, but also I can go do stuff when I feel like it and figure it out. A linear sad dad game is just a movie you shoehorned into a game because A24 told you no, because they already did 6 weird sad dad movies this year. That no one paid to see.
Also the difference between sad dad protagonists and totally radical dudebro protagonists from the 1990s / 2000s is...it's the same guys, 20 years later. Sonic grew up and became Joel from Plant Zombie Game. Like, this is the same devs doing more stories about their mundane lives. And it's just as whatever as it's always been, unless you are them. Because why else would you care?
At least in Baldur's Gate any sad dad content is just one possible option. You can do lesbian stuff with a bear in a party hat, if you want. Kratos isn't doing that.
...NEW Kratos isn't doing that. Old Kratos would, and then tear its head off and use it to choke a minotaur so he could break off its horns and use them to stab Zeus in the dick.
I just want the option, is my point.
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Confrontation.
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Or: the one in which In-Ho is definitely not paying attention.
#squid game#inhun#457#001x456#seong gihun#hwang in ho#Gihun is putting his entire gihussy into yelling at Inho for the injustices that hes committed and inho is just like hehehe lips pretty#gihun: HOW COULD YOU DO ALL THOSE HEINOUS THINGS? INHUMANE!!!#Inho: yes dear very true indeed now kiss kiss?#old man yaoi remains my weakness#esp toxic old man yaoi.
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i think every game that makes flying the focus (and theres veeery few of those) should have a map with a lot of verticality to it. Yes we all wanna fly a dragon over a vast landscape but when youre high up everything is indistinguishable, the sky is empty, and that gets boring real quick. A flying game should have verticality in a way that lets you explore heights that are really high and places on the map that are overlaid with each other would feel more alive and give you so much more space to work with. In a way, itd be like the inverse of the subnautica map. The original map was amazing because it made the ocean feel so huge. "What do you mean theres five biomes underneath the earth?? what do you mean theres just vast caves under here?" and everything felt super interconnected too. There should be more things in the sky than just you too. Enemies, prey, companions.... etc.
my fave flying game is called 'aer memories of old' and it doesnt really have that verticality but its a good flying game imo because its got a map thats so rewarding to explore, there is a PURPOSE to flying around just beyond what the game wants you to do. The lore of the world is out there for you to find and piece together, and the map is filled with life and details. And recently theres been an uptick in developers trying to make flying dragon games but none feel like flying has any purpose at all other than be really showy and yeah it looks awesome but without a purpose for flying its gonna get boring for the player!!
"This is the dragon game you've always wanted" and its another purposeless multiplayer mmorpg with an insanely huge completely empty map and they focus so much on the five fucking billion dragon cosmetics (and god forbid theyre all free btw) instead of making a game that is fun to play and just put the responsibility of having fun on the shoulders of the player. "omg u can make any dragon in this game the models look so cool!!" ok but what about the game. can you tell me if you game is fun? is there anything to do? oh, just material gathering shit and crafting? and an mmo where you have to play with others for there to be any semblance of life in the world? ok
idk im just sick of seeing games advertised as a dragon survival game where the only survival aspect is like. 'find food' 'find water' 'find a mate to have an egg' repeat. repeat. repeat. surely theres other things?? what about migration? territorial disputes? becoming the apex predator? being a local tyrant or a benevolent protector? there is so much that could be done with dragons but all every dev wants to dip their ass in is multiplayer nonsesne with the most basic hunger and thirst and a basic as fuck combat mechanic and call it survival so that people can choose to kill each other. its so lazy
#THIS TURNED INTO A RANT SORRY. RANT RANT RANT RANT..... OLD MAN YELLS AT A CLOUD I GUESS#thunderclap#this is kind of a rant im jsut so sick of people making games that are just a letdown because developing something#requires actually thinking about what makes a game WORK#Is having a flying game thats decent really such a high task for anyone ever???#the ace combat games are awesome!! and project wingman is awesome too!! but theyre dogfighting!! imagine a game where those missions#happen at random over an open world or something as you explore it. THAT would make a good flying game. augh.#THERE IS SO MUCH POTENTIAL PLEASE CAN SOMEONE MAKE A GAME THATS MORE THAN A DRAGON CHARACTER CREATOR#IM SICK OF THOSE.
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nnnnnnnnnnnnno maa'am
#my want to draw traditionally literally split me open for the past week and leaves me literally depressed i'm so serious i can't even look -#- @ my art programs without wanting to throw up omfg should;ve never picked up those pencils#but it's ok i just needed a nap#something so relatable about them i think nelvas has something in it for everyone meanwhile eltl is secluded art museum.#it's very possible to walk around in neloth's and talvas' brains but eltl is off limits. they will NOT! get no drawings like this outta me#wtf r they thinking ........#< eltl not nelvas#something nobody on dis earth can understand ..........#talvas wants to live he likes living but neloth's presence is so strong that it overrides and deletes his will to live.#bruuuuuuuuh#i bet the feeling of neloff is in everything he does if they ever part ways he won't be able to fold clothes or anythign without wanting -#- 2 cry . for what reason . idk bc neloth once yelled at him for folding clothes like shit .what am i on rn#(talvas thoughts mode) I want this old man to hug meeee😢😢😢#NELOFF DO IT and smash him too before i do it first .#me and neloth are the same person tho so it doesn;t matter but w/e#i'm getting emotional over them right now this cannot be real#i love her .... (Skyr1m)#i opened the game for .5 minutes today to take pics of a character uight what a beautiful game.#Te/s having such extensive lore ruins the whole entire game and the franchise but whatever . skyr1m is an art piece that's just how i feel#also this might be a very hard pill to swallow for some people but t*lvas is literally a kin Vessel for young women that keep getting -#- hit on by men twice or thrice their age when they're just trying to live their life .#this feels so profound to me i need dis shit inmy discord bio right NOEW.#Talvas................................#(eyes watering) (holding palm out)#suicide //#just in case but this tag would've gone crazy with my drawings of ulfr*c from late 2022 where i drew him with slit wrists. very artsay#is it not. i didn't like neither of those drawings tho i need to revisit cus i can feel ulfr*c on a diffaraaant level#when will i run out of tags. the way you can tell i just LUH talvas look at me drawing his hair in that second pic 😑BRU#look at me also trying to replicate pencils digitally in the first.. hmmm i don't hate it#at least it soothes me and i don't have pencil withdrawal
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Okay maybe I'm being nitpicky but
this is not remotely what a cicada looks like
or any insect for that matter
#magic the gathering#cicadas#am i the old man yelling at cloud#okay whatever it's a fantasy game#but it's not even an eldrazi insect#it says so right there!#insect#and nothing else
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but. would this not be a case FOR rivalry. no matter how much your companions grow to hate you they'll still stand by you because of how great the threat is. why do they need to be our besties because the gods are trying to kill us. if they didn't include it because it would be double the work then just say that because it's a reasonable answer lol
#sorry im having an old man yells at cloud moment. AURHHHHGGH#ok. when im done with icewind dales it might be time for a da2 replay. i need her back.#my beautiful game with beautiful rivalry and abrasive characters and politics and horrors and drama <3
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i have grown kinda tired of all the studio ghibli and totk comparisons bc i love most of miyazakis movies and its so annoyingly obvious that if totk actually took inspiration from them its all just the surface level aesthetic and none of the good story telling
#ganondoodles talks#zelda#totk#like yeah i see how ashitakas arm and how he got it hurt looks similar to how link “”“”“loses”“”“” his arm in totk#but ashitakas wound is a curse of hatred from a deity that protected their forest from humans destroying it to get to the iron in the earth#and the deity - whos a BOAR- got wounded so badly the pain and fear of death turned him into a demon of hatred#while the poeple wanting the iron are also just doing it for their own survival#like man i fukcing WISH totk had any of the storytelling that princess mononoke had#them seemingly jsut taking the aesthetic from it but none of the story is even more infuriating to me tbh#princess mononoke is one of my all time favorite movies#maybe thats another reason why im so disgruntled about totk#bc it reminds me of things i love -zelda and mononoke- and turning it both bad#before the game was out the comparisons from link to ashitaka was pretty much in every second theory video#abd even then i was skeptical bc i doubted they could make in any way a story as good as that#welp :))))#anyway#old man yells at cloud lol#(this is not directed at anyone directly btw- i just keep running into even now and been feeling this way for a long time- )
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give him to me NOW!!!!!!!!!!! or i'll settle for a release date pwetty pwease
#art#traditional art#watercolour#fanart#soyogi soyogi#cevio ai#and im assuming he'll be importable to voisona. hopefully. i prefer voisonas interface LOL#but im so excited for him you have no idea#although. you can tell in that little chibi how much i immediately gave up on his design. vocal synth designs are too complex now!!!!!!!!!!#old man watercolourist yells at cloud#its fine its a beautiful design. i like that hes a wizard. but also i aint drawing all that. woe. tshirt be upon you#but im so ready. selfishly i also kind of hope this project can kind of convince other seiyuu to get in on this#like im sure yuki kaji has plenty of otome game seiyuu connections at this point. maybe he can convince them#im selfish for more ikemen-ass voices. give me otome game love interest-ass voices#but even if we do just get this im happy. i really loved yuiga kakeru's character song and im just so ready to cover like#every song on earth with him. PLEASE give him to me nowwwwwwwww#i know some time in the fall quarter is what theyre saying but wheeeen...... are we talking like sept or nov.....i wanna kNOWWW#but im patient i can be nice and patient. but give him to meeeeeeeeeeeee
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For the ask game! 3 and 21 please ✨
for the choose violence ask game!
3. screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr
i won't screenshot bc i'm not thinking of one post specifically but a couple i've seen- the idea that Tim should be from Crime Alley, not Bristol. which firstly: i need people to understand Tim isn't Bristol rich. Tim is a millionaire and not nearly as high a tax bracket as Bruce is. his family goes *bankrupt* at one point and it's his stepmother supporting them with a job as a physical therapist. like he's not as rich as some ppl thing he is. but that said, he *is* still upper middle class and it's very important to who he is and how his history as Robin is shaped. it shapes how he interactions with other characters. you just... can't make him from Crime Alley? like why would you want to when we *have* a Crime Alley Robin. it changes so much about Tim that he's no longer then same character. and the idea he could just lie about being from an affluent family with a seven-figure company is? i do not get it. like the entire mess of "Tim pretends to be a Drake" is a headcanon that is so bad to me and just tries too hard to make Tim' backstory more interesting to make him the main character. the entire point of Tim Drake was for him to be a *normal kid* becoming Robin. and all that is ruined when you add all these weird things to him. i'm begging fanon to just enjoy Janet and Jack Drake. please <3
21. part of canon you think is overhyped
oooh, i already talked about Joker: Last Laugh and Deat In The Family. is it... bad if i say the entirety of Wayne Family Adventures?
i think i'll be nice and narrow it down actually: the Wayne Family Adventures episode where Jason has a panic attack because a noise reminds him of the crowbar and he runs and hides until Bruce finds him. that episode... oh it haunts me. i think it really fucked up how most of this fandom understands Jason's relationship to his trauma. and the fact that it's *so* popular makes it even worse bc it can often be the only "canon" content some fans have consumed about him. it makes Jason feel incompetent and it misunderstands what his trauma around his death actually is. it paints him as afraid of the Joker and not full of such a violent rage. i just. oh i can usually understand the merits to WFA even if it's not For Me, but that episode i just... don't get it. i don't get how someone can honestly enjoy Jason's character and still think that episode does him favors and is in character. i'm baffled and angry and rolling my eyes all at once.
#necrotic answerings#ask game#listen okay for the first one right#you can think janet and jack are bad parents#you can write fanfic with them as shitty parents#(well to be clear you *can* do anything this is about my opinion yk? do whatever you want it's okay)#but to keep adding all theses weird “what if actually tim was-” things to tim just. sort of frustrate me#he's a normal kid! that's the draw of the character!#once again this fanfic totally has the right to exist#this is just my opinion on it#if you make tim cool in your fics i support you#but i'm going to yell like an old man from my porch. that's all#the yelling can be ignored i will not be offended#i feel like all my answers for number 3 are tim related.#i can't contain myself#feral tim drake is a tag that haunts me#same with chaotic tim drake#those tags are. well. if you don't like fanon you should *probably* block them is the kindest i'll say.
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I wish fandom didn’t move so fast nowadays; I’m still in tears of the kingdom mode…..
#old man yells at cloud moment <3#the game is a year old already wow#still after five + years in development can u imagine only being on trend for like two weeks#squawk tag
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wait are u really 94 years old.... cos if so i need to cherish the time you are alive ...
aw.
sweet enough for me to be honest and say no, I'm not 94...
I'm 73.
#im 26 anon i just joke about being ancient bc i have old man who yells at kids on his virtual lawn energy#i also make my video game avatars old men all the time#dont ask me why#my friends dont get it either
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Can we stop to talk about the conversation with Atton where he rambles about women and the idea of love? Because good lord can this man project like a movie theater. We're talking fractal projection. Give him a frickin' medal, because it's projection all the way down.
It's a very missable bit of dialogue. You can only get it with a male Exile, and only then if you've cheesed off Brianna by causing her influence to dip 30 points below Visas's. Unfortunately, this also causes Brianna to permanently stop talking to you, so this is something you're only ever gonna see by accident. I only learned that could even happen pretty recently, and that's with maybe 6 male Exile playthroughs under my belt. I guess I'm just very thorough about exhausting everyone's dialogue options all the time.
So. Brianna's permanently cut herself off as a companion, courtesy of Kreia whispering in her ear, and that sucks. But at least your trashman pilot has something to say about it... and whoa boy is it a consolation prize. Atton proceeds to launch into an arm-around-your-shoulders buddy talk that has exactly nothing to do with your problems and everything to do with his personal issues.
Exile: The Handmaiden lost her temper with me.
Atton: Oh, there's a surprise. Trust me, she's a handful - all warriors are. They're not used to dealing with things they can't punch, kick, or break. Look, I know how it is. Me, there's no denying that I'm a good-looking guy. You have it worse, because even though you might not be as good-looking as me, you have that whole tortured past, that command presence. Women want to save you. They think they can help you.
Exile: What are we talking about?
Atton: They think that everyone can be redeemed, and that they're the only ones who can do it. And you don't know if it's you, or the idea of you that they love.
Exile: [Awareness] Are we talking about me or you?
Atton: We're just talking. Like I said, I've never understood women. It's possible they don't love you at all. That they just want to help you... help you hear yourself if you've gone deaf to your own voice. We all lose our way sometimes, and we need someone to pull us back.
Exile: [Awareness] Sounds like you've had that experience before.
Atton: Don't remember. Truth is, I still don't listen to my conscience even when it's shouting. I think there's times I'd rather be completely deaf than hear it. But all this talk doesn't matter. I'm not qualified to give advice. Besides, when I open my mouth, I'm usually lying anyway.
Like. Just. Holy shit, Atton. Yeah, he's clearly talking about the Jedi who tried to save him, but there's so much more to unpack in here. Let's break it down.
“Women want to save you. They think they can help you.” - Atton wants to save you. He wants to be the hero to your story, something he projects at Mical (to the latter's confusion), but which can also be read into a lot of his actions – when he starts taunting the assassin on Telos to draw heat off you, when he runs out on Nar Shaddaa to give you medpacs and do the same thing with the bounty hunters. The hard evidence is on Malachor. If Atton dies, he says it outright: “Did I save you yet?” And if he falls to the Dark Side, he tells Mical that “he wanted to protect [the Exile], to help her” before he lost his chance.
“They think that everyone can be redeemed, and that they're the only ones who can do it.” - Yeah, it's not really about helping the Exile. Atton needs to be the one that 'saves' you, as a balm to his own lack of purpose and self-worth, and he gets real pissy if anyone else does a better job helping you – or god forbid gets close to you. He's constantly insecure, he's unhappy with most new party members when they join up and, and seriously, the only crime Mical ever committed was being a genuinely good dude in a crew full of misfits. Too bad the galaxy's greasiest pilot reads that as a threat.
“And you don't know if it's you, or the idea of you that they love.” - Atton's attraction to you in a nutshell, and that's before you get the question of Force Bonds involved. Like, seriously. Does he genuinely love you as a person, or is he in love with you as an ideal – as someone who could stop running and face the music for their unforgivable crimes, as someone who actually tries to fix the damage they did? As someone who can still find it in them to care about people after the war broke them down? As a Jedi that actually lives up to the ideal both the Council and Revan failed to? As someone he believes he can relate to, because he thinks he knows your reasons for what you did? Are you a stand-in for his dead Jedi and his hundred conflicting feelings over her? Is he just in love with the idea of having a purpose and wants someone he can bury himself in? Is the idea of martyring himself and finally dying for a reason what he's really obsessed with? Pick your flavor, because who knows! He certainly doesn't!
“It's possible they don't love you at all.” - While this has a lot to do with him wondering why the hell anyone would have tried to save him, I also think this is him reflecting on his own confused feelings towards the Exile. They might not be romantic with an M!Exile (or if they are, he's having intense bi denial), but they're absolutely there and he does not know what to make of them.
“That they just want to help you... help you hear yourself if you've gone deaf to your own voice. We all lose our way sometimes, and we need someone to pull us back.” - This has nothing to do with the Exile, the Handmaiden, or anyone who isn't an ex-Sith assassin who had empathy forcibly shoved into their brain after years of progressively more fucked-up descent into all-consuming hatred.
“Truth is, I still don't listen to my conscience even when it's shouting.” - He almost gets away with this one, but Atton's deep in denial here. He doesn't want to hear it, but he can't turn it off, the same way he can't stop feeling things when he used to have total control of his emotions (because he barely felt anything at all.) It's all why he can't go back to who he was, even though he badly misses the certainty he used to feel. Atton is a pro at ignoring his conscience, which definitely has nothing to do with how much he hates himself, total coincidence... but as soon as the Exile gets involved, that goes out the window, because Atton's self-preservation glitches out. Their Force wound tugs on his better nature... or it yanks at his opposite. And if that happens, Atton is very aware of what's happening to him. He succumbs, but he has more to say on the Exile's fall than anyone short of Kreia. And light or dark, his (im)moral compass gets jarred from 'cover my own ass' to 'protect the Exile' and he repeatedly sticks his neck out for no gain, so yeah, I call bullshit here. He's smack in the middle of his biggest crisis of conscience since the Sith.
“Besides, when I open my mouth, I'm usually lying anyway.” Well, at least he admits it.
#kotor ii#kotor 2#atton rand#disaster man extraordinaire#slaps ribbed jacket#this bad boy can fit so much projection in it#you can also get atton to say she woke him up inside and i cannot possibly react to this in any other way than yelling evanescence lyrics#happy may the 4th!#have some highly specific analysis on a 19-year-old game
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people in the tags of that post saying jlo is giving matt her blessing you do NOT know her like i do. she would not fucking say that.
#fujo this fujo that#whatever happend to a fucked up little love triangle???#whatever happened to jealousy and obsession and psychosexual mind games?#it's like none of you even listened to obsessed by olivia rodrigo#BEN's the one who would fujo out in the cuck chair during a threesome. get it right!#old man yells at cloud
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Milo Laidir, rogue, they/them
And their dad, Kas
#harry plays dragon age: the veilguard#datv spoilers#oc: milo laidir#kas adaar: old man yells at cloud#not actually playing the game for a bit just wanted to make a new character lmao
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#9 #10 #23 🔫
questions here, ty for the ask right out the gate with asking me about canon you know me so well :3
9. worst part of canon
listen I know it's because I'm in the field and so all the things that annoy me are just background noise to most other people but I really really hate the way hacking and networks and AIs and tech in general is handled in cyberpunk. I don't think it should be perfectly realistic or exactly what we have in real life. I do think it should have some internal consistency when it comes to power leveling and that it should make some sort of sense. cyberpunk worldbuilding is often its weakest feature and that it's a bummer.
and it's not just a matter of tech working basically like magic, but the fact that there seem to be no internal rules so you can never figure out what the consequences of anything might be. why do people not just shut off their bluetooth before getting in a fight with someone who has a netrunner? why does alt not simply archive the engrams instead of imply she's going to eat them in some weird digital cannibalistic fashion? (why not just delete them if she doesn't have the space) are we just adding arbitrary and tragic restrictions on at the ninth hour because it makes it dark and gritty? that's BORING. tell me from the start why I'm fucked because my android soul is incompatible with your apple hardware. maybe johnny's brain which has never dealt with kiroshi's might have vision issues. let's think about those restrictions and why all software sucks instead of doing weak philosophical gotchas at the worst moment because the game has made pains to never discuss anything fundamental about life after death until you have to suddenly make a decision.
you know what would be an interesting idea in this vein? that the AIs made before the fall of the net really did jumpstart all technology and since they've all been banished everything has stagnated because huge world-wide companies having their global communications axed is a huge blow to recover from- not to mention the literal brain drain. What if the reason everything's been getting shittier is because people have been slowly poking holes in software and infrastructure that's no longer maintained? That no one knows how to maintain? That society is doomed to slowly fail because of unsustainable processes and people are going to have to band together to- Oh, what's this? I'm hearing that the actual problem is all the AIs are mad and feral and will drive you mad if you commune with them and take over huge spider robots. Well. That works too.
10. worst part of fanon
I would like to get more fanon honestly. I so rarely see people's actual takes on characters or the game's story or the world. And that's not a dig at OC lore, which I do like. Sometimes my face-blind ass just gets tired of VP where someone is looking into my soul the camera.
Mild annoyance because I also write my own wish fulfillment fic so I'm not saying I'm any better half the time- if it was as easy to be a rebel as just quitting your corpo job with healthcare and a steady salary to become a merc or a hacker or something, then there wouldn't be much to be punk about. You know? The whole point is that life in cyberpunk is a grinding struggle, and you do have to make sacrifices if you want to fight against it. The "we're poor but happy" thing probably isn't going to work out that way.
Actually that's the start of another essay of how interesting Barghest's survival and its recruitment strategy is... and why there are so many powerful gangs in NC. Being independent ain't easy. But I guess that's really just an extension of the game's reality where V can turn into a hero-figure killing machine who no one can beat in terms of skill, isn't it? Probably why the tower ending is the way that it is!
23. ship you've unwillingly come around to
Not really? I can't really think of any instances where I've changed my mind about a ship. Characters yes, ships no. I guess maybe silverv, before I finished the game? Johnny hadn't earned enough Felix points for me to care about him. But I think I came pretty willingly when it was time.
#ask game#answered ask#this took forever and I got fired up a few times I hope you're happy >:3#felix is a hater#<- if you don't want to hear old man yelling at the cloud (i.e. me getting up on my tech pulpit to complain about canon)#and listen these are just ideas i'm throwing out half-assed#idk sometimes i think the punk side of cyberpunk is more than just guns and rebellion#it's about reckoning with the tech that has made this all possible!#and that goes beyond the soulkiller 9000#the peralez stuff is one of my favorite examples of that tbh. a half-botched job. eternal paranoia. a fucking surveillance room in your hom
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even the old and doomed bitter exes were young and optimistic once (lots of notes and hc under cut)
some notes/ideas:
1950-60s inspired in fashion and values. is pokemon wwii a thing? would that just be the pokewar ??? was oak a post war baby surrounded by veterans failed by their government because they were from a town with like 2 houses? what is the truth
samuel oak (but everyone calls him sammy) is a kid from some small town with a goofy haircut and big dreams of discovering/inventing something new. he has a “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” mentality and a growing cocky streak like blue. he’s both friendly and determined (some would call him pushy), which is how he met agatha (bothered her until they became friends), and is seen by the town as someone who could put pallet on the map. he sees the potential in people in pokemon and always tries to make them the best he thinks they can be. he’s always had his sights on research/science and used his natural talent for battling to reach it
as he gets older his stubbornness and habit of putting his projects above everything else becomes more apparent
agatha is from a traditional spiritual family with a liking for scarier pokemon since they keep neighborhood troublemakers away from her (and help her get away with her own troublemaking.) she’s petty and vindictive and sneaky. most people don’t like her much. in fact, she probably snuck away for her own journey and resolved not to come back until she’d made a name for herself or something. she’s restricted by social and gender expectations and can’t wait to be a crotchety old woman
she met sammy on their journeys, and they ended up becoming friends-rivals, in that their friendship was built on a rivalry, despite agatha pretty much always losing
most people in those days just went a few routes down before going back home, but both have something to prove and big ambitions. unlike him, who seems to have a natural affinity and talent for battles, she feels has to work harder for it. so we have beloved talented upstanding country science boy VS ostracized skilled sneaky slightly-less-country ghost girl.
agatha likes sammy best when he’s putting his all into battle (a crimson flame quietly burning…..), not that doing silly nerd stuff. she likes him best when he’s not on some high horse. when he left to focus on the pokédex after rising to such a high trainer rank with her, and seemingly cast battling/her aside without second thought, she felt betrayed and like he was wasting his natural talents. if she had that innate talent, she’d never throw it away.
who needs a “”pokedex”” anyways? back in her day they had to learn from trial and error. kids these days are so soft. are you planning to write a guidebook for the elite four too samuel??
samuel (sammy is too childish for him nowadays) thinks this is very immature of her. his passions have always lied in research (he spent so much of his journey drawing and notetaking! was she purposefully ignorant?). did she think they’d play with pokemon forever? he needs a real job! a job that will let him play with pokemon…for science
obviously they’ll just never speak to each other again (this lasted for like 2 weeks until he contacted her)
agatha thinks he’s just as bullheaded and petty as she is and just doesn’t like being called out on it now that he’s the respectable professor samuel oak. this guy once got ran over by a pack of oddish because agatha told him he should track the pokemon’s sleepwalking patterns!! she laughed in his face! he bought her gloom perfume years later and the empty bottle is probably still somewhere in her house!!!
they continued to be exes of fluctuating bitterness for like 4 decades. samuel went home, got married, had children who gave him grandchildren, revolutionized the field of pokémon study a few times, and agatha cultivated her creepy witch image, joined the elite four, sent every challenger away with a new ghost phobia for fun, became a trickster mentor for a young lance, and simply refuses to die of old age out of spite
samuel is a family man who wanted kids and agatha Did Not. but uh in the end he lost all his kids so. they had other issues but that was also one of them
oak is harsher on his grandson because he sees himself in him. he feels like strictness and commitment was what he needed as a child (he had to develop that later on), but instead ended up making blue rebellious. oak’s pride in his hometown (establishing a lab there instead of a bigger city) made blue embarrassed of it. oak doesn’t think battling should be a full time job (and certainly wasn’t viable in his time!) (he swears agatha stays on the elite four just to sprite him), and that he should have a second venture (like research!) just in case. samuel certainly wasn’t satisfied with just battling when he was blue’s age! his grandson is clearly intelligent, but he’s wasting his talents at his gym, and he’s always ignoring his gym leader duties anyways. he’ll grow out of it one day just like samuel did, and when he does, samuel will get him a job with one of his colleagues
just switch battling and research around and this sounds a little familiar
oak’s views on his granddaughter uhhhh good with housework and kids which is useful because he stays late at the lab too often to do any of that and most of his work can’t hold the attention of any 6 year old that isn’t red. i don’t think he had any plans for daisy like he did for blue… yikes!
agatha would not be pleased which is why she’s not allowed to see them because she’d convince his nice granddaughter to quit her job and join a gothic band or something
on red, oak sees him struggling socially and also relates to him, because he’s a kid who clearly loves pokemon and likes to draw. so he gives him more attention, unintentionally making blue feel excluded, resulting in him acting out for attention. oak doesn’t see the correlation. this is an example of oak’s good intentions combined with his one track mind and his idea of how the world should work making HIM the one who struggles socially. if he’d shared that story about getting run over by the oddish maybe blue wouldn’t see him as such a serious looming figure in his life judging his every move
agatha thinks red is a good kid, shakes her head at daisy, and likes blue because he’s a little tyke. blue doesn’t like to think about his gramps’ love life so he tries to avoid her (it doesn’t work)
anyways everyone involved is very stubborn and a little self centered and bad with feelings so no one is admitting defeat without intervention
hmm naturally talented socially awkward stubborn pokemon lover beloved by their community and their colder, skilled (but nonetheless second place) rival with a chip on their shoulder who feels left behind. all roads lead back to reguri
oak and agatha are on much better terms nowadays though, her spininess is just part of her personality
he calls her an old friend and rival and holds her in high esteem and she calls him a has-been with the personality of lint
#the caption is so dramatic lol#pokemon#professor oak#samuel oak#elite four agatha#pokemon agatha#do they have a ship name??#blue cameo#millidrew#millidew holiday queue marathon#art#my post#game agatha is so funny. ‘’everyone loves him but he USED to be way hotter and cooler. now he’s a lil bitch’’#obligatory oak is not an evil grandpa he’s trying to help blue succeed… just his own idea of success you know how (grand)parents are#he just suffers from old man disease#which makes you very annoying in specific ways by inserting yourself into situations#he comes around eventually but things are definitely very rocky when blue is a preteen/teen#at the same time why are you beefing with an 11 year old get a grip#he doesn’t yell at blue he is just pointedly disappointed which is worse tbh#I think i just made oak autistic. This would be news of everyone in pokemon wasn’t already autistic
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