#okay but the CHILDREN EXPERIMENTS??
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these episodes made me SAAAAD sad
spoilers for tbb 10+11x03!!! 1!1!1
LOL GO GET THAT PROMOTOIONNNNN
I HATE THIS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
when wrecker joked about leaving Gonky yet it was the first thing he grabbed when the marauder blew up 💔💔💔
i really cant believe it. rip havoc marauder.
“domicile” WHO ELSE SAYS THAT CMOOON THATS LITERALLY TECH RIGHT THERE
oh my gohsh he did not want to let her go :((((
“is that hunter?” “uh-huh.” BROTHERZZZZ
hunter being submerged underwater only to have him take off his helmet to reveal DRY hair 😭😭😭😭
yum neck...
this is the saddest shot ive ever witnessed, the amount of trust omega mustve put into crosshair to land that shot only for it to miss by a second...
hes never forgvining himselffffffffffffffffff the amount of guilt omgg....
see you soon omega 😔
#the bad batch#star wars#tbb#mooonjin talks#wrecker#crosshair#hunter#omega#gonky#clone x#project necromancer#okay but the CHILDREN EXPERIMENTS??#and the BABY BEING AN ADDITION#CLONE X HAS TO BE TECH#im soooo sad the last episode makees me so sad#hunter and wrecker dont know omega went willingly :((((#the bad batch season three#tbb season three#WRECKER NEVER GOT HIS ICE CONESSSSS#admiral tarkin#emerie karr
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P1 clara route oh my god
#okay so she’s been my favorite for a hot minute#but actually playing her route is a totally different experience#like. fuck. this is a character literally made for me#it is shocking to see media that depicts so accurately what being stuck in a cult mentality is like#her whole dynamic with Katerina is INSANE to me#as someone with some personal experience in a situation like that. good lord#all interactions with block hit me like a GUT PUNCH#ik fanon casts him as her dad sometimes but he made my skin crawl#the fervent and desperate way he exalts her was just horrifying#and Clara accepting this from people because its the only way she will ever be loved#her entire story is about destruction being a child#and all children want is to be loved#and yet. the only person who loves her without condition is the twin she invented with a lie#it is so heartbreaking i need to lay DOWN#pathologic#pathologic 2#digital art#clara pathologic#clara saburova#pathologic classic hd
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Set in @inexplicifics' Accidental Warlord AU,
Someone starts a rumor that Eskel gives the best hugs of all the witchers. (Everyone knows he gives good hugs, that's not in question, but the best?)
The Cats - chaotic, competitive, and cuddly brats that they are - immediately decide to challenge this. The Cranes - just as chaotic, but in a "can we science or explode this" way - jump in with ideas on how to test it.
Of course it spirals.
By the end of the week, the Cranes have organized a competition - complete with rules - to determine which witcher gives the best hugs. There's an entire scoring rubric. And criteria for who can judge. And who can enter, and how.
Several of the more sensible residents of the keep just back away slowly.
Jaskier, of course, cheers the mischief on whole-heartedly...and then nominates Geralt and Eskel (as a team) and Aubry (by himself).
(The Cranes quickly reshuffle things to add a team bracket. Cedric and Axel start looking for someone to nominate THEM.)
Somehow, the children of the keep - at least the ones unrelated by adoption or step-parenthood to competing witchers - end up as judges.
The Cats are sure they have this in the bag. They're funny! They're friendly! They like cuddling! They even PURR! Clearly there's no competition. Eskel's done for.
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...then Letho dark-horses his way into the title of "cuddliest witcher ever."
#the witcher#accidental warlord au#he has PRACTICE hugging tiny humans okay?#and not just Julita and Ciri#he helps Julita in the kitchen with baking#you know who else pops up when she's baking?#CHILDREN#hungry children#sad children#cuddly grabby children#Letho gets glommed-on by small children more than any other witcher in the keep#and he uses that experience RUTHLESSLY#Eskel thinks it's hilarious#and is happy to hug anyone who asks#the Cats sulk about it#and then pester Letho ENDLESSLY for his secret#Letho growls at them
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how about you shut the fuck up Mr. Irresponsible
#i forgot to add the context but this is the part of empyrea part 2 where mellori previously got bodied and now she's in a coma#and so the arcanum is trying to figure out how to save her life when ambrose barges in and starts insulting them for no reason#the man who directly puts children at risk: how dare you do unnaproved experiments on MY children? its a school night!!!#okay so like. ambrose if the arcanum is Not Approved to save lives who is. who do they need the permission of. You ?#the ONE TIME ambrose cares about the children under his jurisdiction its just to get to tell other people what to do 💀#this conflict leads to nothing by the way. ambrose fails to make a point. much less a valid one#he appears. he insults everyone and talks back to a grieving mother. he does not elaborate on why he is so upset. then he leaves.#this would have been an interesting conversation if ambrose actually. contributed to anything#this also fits into his personality: focusing on the greater good#viewing living beings as Keys and Saviors first - people second#ambrose will yell at a grieving mother if he thinks it will save the spiral#wizard101#wiz101#w101#text posts
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There isn't much discourse about how Mike went from saying that El was a weapon in s1, even encouraging the others to use El's powers when she was still recuperating after finding Will in the void, to then in s3 accusing the others of being reckless with her powers, saying she's risking her life for no reason.
Now, I want to make clear that I'm not bashing Mike here, this has less to do with what he's doing being right or wrong. What this is about is how Mike went from doing something himself, to calling out other people for doing it, without acknowledging that fact and why the writers chose to frame it all this way.
You might think it's insignificant, but these two following scenes are clearly being paralleled to each other. And so the fact that Mike himself is acknowledging this as something to be critical of, makes me wonder what exactly is going on in his mind...
I want to preface this scene from s1 by saying that Mike is giving very off vibes here. I know that I certainly viewed this scene as romantic the first time I saw it, but since rewatching it recently, I was getting completely different vibes.
They literally make a point to focus on Mike being distracted, on the verge of impatience. Then, the way El reacts upon Mike getting up abruptly, gives this feeling of uncertainty about Mike's consideration for her in this moment, as she's clearly not what's on the top of his mind right now. And it just makes you wonder, are we truly supposed to be feeling peak romance rn?
I never realized how out of place this scene was until now (or is it...). It's just such an odd choice to have El resting her head on Mike's shoulder for comfort, only for Mike to cut it short with him being distracted, and with Dustin and El looking awkwardly at Mike like "Okay?...", then followed by a scene where he's trying to convince the others to use El's powers to help.
Here we have s1 Mike displaying behavior that s3 Mike was calling out the others for displaying:
Here we have Lucas, who was very, very critical of El being dangerous ALL of s1, and yet now in complete contrast to that, he is showing more consideration and common sense for El's well being than Mike, the supposed love (at first sight) interest ...
'That's the most important thing, remember?'
A question, followed by Mike just standing there in silence, like he's only just now really thinking about El being safe as their main priority... This is something that combined with everything else unfolding over the course of this season and the seasons after, that makes Mike's behavior a whole lot easier to understand.
I'll have to make several other posts about this, because there are a lot of aspects to it, but for now I'm just going to focus on these two parallels.
Here we have what happens in s3, with Mike being critical of the others doing something he himself literally did in s1:
In fact, how careless all of you are.
THIS. When Mike makes it a big deal to call out everyone for doing something he himself has already done, he's outright admitting that it's something that he believes is wrong, and by not even slightly acknowledging his role in doing something similar in the past, it's very likely that he feels guilty about it.
This was probably his way of trying to make it right, by standing up for El in a way that he didn't before because he was treating her like some superhero and not a real person back then.
It's just that the word love slipped out, in the heat of the moment. And El, upon overhearing this, is seeing this development of Mike herself, with s1 Mike going from, yes being more kind and considerate than the other 2 boys in the beginning, but still sort of expecting stuff from her without her being able to verbally agree to it, to now having developed and changed to saying that one of his big priorities is her safety.
El is taking this as being evidence he went from not loving her, to loving her. Another reason why it's pretty obvious El didn't believe Mike's monologue, bc she herself witnessed Mike develop his apparent romantic feelings for her over time, and so him saying it was love at first sight, was probably the catalyst that made it abundantly clear to her that he wasn't being truthful, bc she knows it's not the truth. She's not stupid.
Again this isn't about Mike doing this back then or even the others doing it now as being bad vs. good, this is about the writers going about it this way, sending a message that Mike feels guilt, enough to try to make things right, but is apparently not ready to unpack the actual guilt that is beneath the surface which lead him to this point.
And then there's this scene, which... it's actually terrifying how obvious it is they instructed Sadie and Caleb to lean out of that shot with Will and Mike reacting to El entering the room... Like... It's SOO obvious when you watch it now what they're trying to hint at without saying it.
Not only are they hinting at Will's feelings, because that is part of it, they're also hinting at Mike's internal struggle. Will is always on the back of his mind whether he's willing to address it or not. And all while that is happening, he is feeling unaddressed guilt about how he treated El when they first met and spent that one week together helping her run away from the bad guys while also looking for Will, something Mike viewed as being worthy of El using her powers...
I'll have to make the other posts regarding this soon, because it all starts to click what's going on with Mike when you look at all of these things together.
While Mike is just a kid like pretty much everyone else in this story, and while he didn't mean any harm by asking El to help them find Will (none of them did), I think that's kind of the whole point?
I think that he got lucky superman landed on his doorstep, who just so happened to be in danger herself, giving him his own purpose to help her too, with her needing him as well, and so it became a situation where they both needed each other.
But because El could literally not speak, it's not like she could really voice her feelings about things they were doing, beyond yes and no. She had Lucas sort of being critical of her, with Mike encouraging El to do things that would make the others see her as being worthy of sticking around so they can find Will. It goes without saying she felt obligated to do these things, even if they didn't outright tell her she had to or else. We literally see almost all of these scenes with her doing stuff for the others being instantly juxtaposed with scenes of Brenner doing the same. It's not the same scale of severity, but it is an acknowledgment that although she is outside of the lab, she still feels like her powers are what define her and it's all people want from her.
I think what it comes down to, is that in that moment when she is sacrificing herself to the demogorgan at the end of s1, we are seeing in real time Mike realizing what he and the other's have been asking of her this whole time, without outright asking her.
And you can literally see the retaliation and devastation hit him all at once. The instant regret, where he's backtracking and El stops him from even trying.
'Goodbye Mike' singles him out, because while he was the one out of the three that showed her the most kindness from the start, he was also the one who at the end of it all, was still expecting her to risk her life for them...
And that just makes it hit so much harder when you think about how that made Mike feel in that moment.
And then in s2 how that impacts Mike and his journey going forward.
His breakdown at the end of s2 upon her return.
His behavior in s3-4, in relation to him juggling his relationship with Will and El, now that they are both in his life at the same time.
It all starts to make sense.
I won't go too much into it because those other posts are bound to be long with a bunch of pictures too!
But on that note, there's at least one thing Mike isn't acknowledging, and it's literally what led up to the unintentional love confession that then led us to 10 more episodes of miscommunication because of it...
It's going to be important for him to address this guilt for him to fulfill his arc and to also close off his expectations that he has to have a romantic relationship with El in order to keep her in his life at all.
The audience themselves seeing this and being forced to face it is also going to make it a lot easier for them understand why Mike did what he did, not only because he's a queer kid in the 80's who has every reason to doubt and repress, but also because he understandably feels sort of indebted to El after everything.
It's more complex than him just falling out of love with her and falling in love with Will because of XYZ.
I think there is a lot of guilt and shame and trauma connected to their meeting and the events that followed. And addressing that is going to give a lot of closure to the ending of the story and also the beginning.
#byler#stranger things#mike wheeler#i feel like mikes arc always comes off as convoluted to most viewers bc they’re missing the whole picture#like this is literally canon#Mike went from doing something to saying other people doing it was wrong without acknowledging his role in that from the beginning#and so ppl using that development as aww he loves her now…#doesn’t even work when apparently he loved her since the moment he saw her…#not being willing to pay attention to how they are building up mikes arc#dancing around all of his actions with#everyone makes mistakes bc they’re children and that’s okay#and just leave it at that…#bc yes obviously all of the characters should be able to make mistakes and be forgiven#but were ignoring the elephant in the room here#it’s canon Mike feels guilt for how he treated el in s1 yet he hasn’t acknowledged it…#instead of acknowledging his history of doing something similar#he’s pointed out everyone else doing it as if they’re doing something wrong he himself would never do…#as if he doesn’t have first hand experience#they could have actually made this moment romantic and genuine IF they wanted to#they could have had mike open up about how he used to do that#but after getting to know el and realize she is her own person#it made him think differently and he wants to do better by her#then maybe when she confronted him in front of everyone he could have said it again or asked to be alone to say it to her directly#and to apologize for how he acted in the past by expecting stuff of her#and THATS why he is extra cautious now#and then got her reaction#instead they give fans the impression Mike is the ideal male love interest#who is perfect for el#with this moment being one of their top reasons#and it’s a scene where he avoids confronting series long built up guilt…
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happy latin american heritage month to the latino kiyotaka fans!!
something something feeling like you need to work hard to succeed and make a good life for yourself and your family who worked hard to provide for you (but you have a complicated relationship with) in a world that already stigmatizes you yada yada yada
#okay. this is very targeted towards first gen american children of latino immigrants. it’s almost like i have experience there#but hey if you relate to this while not being that. good for you#BUT STILL. be nice to all of the latino taka fans. they are so niceys and carry the hell out of this fandom#kiyotaka ishimaru#danganronpa#ramblepuff
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#random personal stuff#back on my soapbox feel free to ignore#okay I'm about to get controversial sorry#but after today's sermon I'm a bit baffled by a double standard#in which women are told not to let work get in the way of prioritizing family#but men are told to work MORE in order to prioritize family#which is it?#I'm not saying that there isn't ANY truth in either of those statements#but the emphasis of this construction seems to assume that children need fathers primarily as people who make money#I'm NOT saying that there's a problem with a dad who works and a mom who stays at home (that's a good option)#I'm NOT saying that there's a problem with dads who have to take on extra work to get by (that's a self-sacrificial thing)#what I'm saying is that when a career is portrayed as the ideal focus of a father & only the mother's bond with the children is encouraged#then what you are liable to get are children who have little to no meaningful relationship with their father#supporting your family is good! but children need a present father just as much as they need a present mother#I'm speaking from experience here#I love my dad and get along fine with him - he's a good person!#but he was frequently physically and emotionally absent from my life when I was a child#and I still struggle to connect with him#it's an extremely different relationship from what I have with my mom - who WAS there my entire childhood#tl;dr I wish the kinds of churches I've observed would a) stop inadvertently promoting fathers' workaholism#and b) encourage both parents to invest in their families in the best ways that they can
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P3 spoilers below!
When I first played p3 I knew something was up with Ikutsuki the second he pulled up with an elementary school child like “hey guys let’s have this kid fight with us against horrible awful creatures that are incredibly dangerous!! ☺️” bc genuinely WHAT the hell is going through your mind to think that’s an acceptable thing to do 😭😭
#I love SEES but lowkey they were a little too chill abt that bc what…😭😭#how were none of them not like hey Ikutsuki what the FUCK is wrong w you actually#obviously I know they were all put off by it but they came to terms with it wayyy quickly#me personally I would not let that slide like get this poor child outta here bro 😭😭#persona 3#persona 3 reload#p3#ken amada#shuji ikutsuki#Ikutsuki is kind of funny as hell though if you ignore the whole like…experimenting on orphaned children thing#😧#GODDD HES SO CRAZY 😭 SOMETIMES I FORGET#AND THEN I START THINKING ABT IT AND AM LIKE OH…MY GOD??#I do NOT like Ikutsuki but he was funny sometimes okay#I enjoyed his stupid little jokes I admit#then he had to go and be generally awful 🙄🙄🙄 urgh
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I wish more people recognized that sometimes, parents don't make mistakes when their child ends up traumatized. Sometimes, parents deliberately make the choice to ignore or abuse their child or whatever the situation is. Parents are not immune from malicious intent just because that's their child they're behaving toward.
That is precisely why "but they're your parents!" doesn't work. If that was my parent, I was their child.
#abuse#abuse tw#there's a difference between 'made mistakes' and 'abused my child' and if you see abuse as an 'oopsie mistake' then don't become a parent#don't *ever* become a parent if you think that abuse is okay and it is up to the child to remember that that was their parent#i just have a lot of thoughts about the way some parents are over-consoled when they mistreat their children#yes parenting is hard. no that does not mean you have a free pass to be abusive#you are raising somebody who hasn't ever been fucking alive#you are raising somebody that doesn't have the decades of life experience that you might have#children have to start from fucking scratch and you're over here abusing them about it????
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how we feeling about johan and baby trapping 👀
i give all the power to you anon respectfully 🙏 I personally think it doesn't cross his mind even once or at all. He wouldn't need to resort to that because there are sooooo so many wonderful ways of keeping you trapped with him.
#and it's all in the mind baybeeee 🙏 also he's the kid of a child eugenics experiment. He'd probably stray away from children for now#also he's messed up and his 20s. Even he knows that that aint the best Idea yet.#but anon if you're listening i get what ur saying. But alas I only imagine it in a like horror scenario. Horror in pregnancy and motherhood#and him with that creepy smile petting you and saying that it'll all be okay and that their child will be wonderful OOP 💀#c.johan liebert#f.monster#tw pregnancy#tw babytrapping#suusoh answers
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*slaps the roof of Unicorn Overlord* This game can fit so many self-loathing characters, tragic siblings, siblings with complicated relationships, children with complicated feelings towards their parents and/or parental figures, parents mourning their dead children, and characters who are generally a little bit fucked up but doing their best in it.
#minor unicorn overlord spoilers#somehow the ''owl single mom and her adopted children (1 lion 1 human)'' is the healthiest most normal family unit in the game#my quest to unlock as many rapport convos as I can before I get bored got put on hold bc I decided to see if I could salvage half my units#(I've been using like maybe 5 units total at any given time; they are all significantly overlevelled)#(I will probably keep using those same 5 units but I wanted to see if I could make any more usable units and grind them via aux. battles)#BUT HOT DAMN NONE OF THESE CHARACTERS--save Ramona and her family as mentioned previously--ARE OKAY#also love that there's basically an ''eldest sibling club to commiserate'' going on between all the eldest sibling characters#Berengaria Magellen Hilda and Morard are all shaking hands nodding offering support to each other#Rosalinde and Aramis weren't invited bc Rosalinde's having too much fun doing whatever she feels like and Aramis is busy being Aramis#anyhow I've said it before I'll say it again I am rattling these characters like maracas they are SO good#I'm gonna experiment with units for a couple more battles and then it's back to the tavern to figure out how to obtain the rest of the RCs#oracle of lore
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You could stay forever, if you wanted (Patreon)
#Doodles#Max Vyer#Dexter Favin#Helix#Coraline#I blame plushy brain lol#I initially wanted this to be a Max-centric Coraline AU but I realized pretty quickly that Max would just straight up get button eyes#Like it would be barely a question he would fall for it hook line and sinker#''The Beldam doesn't go after adults because children's problems and trust in parental figures'' wrong - Max Vyer#He already falls into his own world of dreams and make believe you Cannot look me in the eyes and tell me this man wouldn't get his soul#eaten in exchange for getting to actually experience his fantasies he's so dumb ;;<3#So I had to switch it to Dex because he'd actually be a challenge and the Beldam loves games lol#Okay but also imagine - Max getting duped and Dex coming to rescue him hwehh#Coraline AUs are endlessly fascinating to me because they always cut right to the core of ''This is what you want - right?''#It's that Want Vs. Need babey!!! Gah it's so good <3#Here's another question - you think the Beldam would assume the form of Madame Vyer? 'Cause yes the Matriarch role but#It's hard to argue that Dex and Max aren't the most important figures in each other's lives and her wit would kinda need to be in full focus#But it's Definitely incorrect to limit their relationship to being just guardian/paternal/filial/platonic to really any degree#Would get real awkward real fast - another reason I had to switch to Dex 'cause again he'd Resist just agh how creepy! It'd be really creepy#All that to one side for now tho lol - I really love the twist of the knife option personally ♪#Of ''I see what you want and I can give it to you exactly how it would be in your real old life - don't you want that?''#It's so invasive! So intrusive! The little doll scouting out the disappointments that could be so easily ''corrected'' hwagh#Dex finally getting actually called out for his coddling Max from Max ''himself'' and promised that he could keep doing it#That's where it hurts - to be told that you don't have to change but that this is the way reality would conform around your decisions#Ow <3 I love that#Is it everything you hoped it would be? Are you ready to give in yet? Hhhh ♥
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oh my god i forgot to post this here. more ganyu! these drawings come with pack of thoughts and concepts i made up for her (in tags)
#so first of all... im sick of how ganyu is treated... there is no aura of respect around her from citizens...#inside qixin she is like any ordinary worker despite her outliving any of her coworkers... okay well she hides that she is an adeptus...e#even those who obviously know she is qilin treat her as some kind of cutie an thats all...#i would like her to be admired you know....#second thought is that since ganyu is a great secretary she might be equal to first civil rank in ancient chinese rank system? thus#she may wear official mandarin clothes while working? i was experimenting with her outfit and that's just an option#third thought is it would be kinda cool if in in past ganyu was a patron of childhood and long life since qilins are symbols of it#and people would bring their children for ganyu to give them blessings#i think thats all... i like ganyu hiii#genshin impact#ganyu#genshin ganyu#my art#fat ganyu#also ganyu being taller than regular human is top tier for me
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Is this a repost? Yes. Do I care? Yes. Will this get 🚩? MAYBE.
*dabs violently*
#sdv shane#stardew shane#stardew valley shane#Mr tumblr man please don’t look this way 🫡 you don’t see this#lowkey I always wondered if it would get caught by the system so let’s see!!! experiment time children#I’ll never draw his head that pretty again#I’ll TRY#should I put it back in my art tag#HMM#nah cause I DID post it before#oh if you’re unfamiliar with me but have seen like strawberry shane i CAN draw more humanly proportions I’m just silly#no I’m actually just bad and insecure about it but that’s OKAY NOTHINGS PERFECT BABES *DABS AGAIN*#oh I also forgot to add my second motivation#i hope this replaces the wallpaper in my most popular posts on top ya know the three boxes so we get wildly different Shanes in each square#hehe it’s consistent enough in style but all three are so different too
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i feel like the makeup standards are not necessarily going to get Worse, just. stay the Same. "raised by sephora and ulta" christ alive yall act like this shit is new. as if this hasnt been the standard to blast young girls with makeup ads and shit via magazine and tv and imposed beauty standards anyway. the only real difference is like, idk, accessibility of tutorials for how to apply it well
#toy txt post#spoken as. a no makeup bitch#altho i have also been accused by a terf of wearing a pound if makeup for wearing. visible lipstick in a selfie. and that was It#the actual Beauty Standard has largely stayed the exact fucking same of like making your skin texture as fake as possible#that was the standard back then too but it was harder to achieve /know how to do it cos there werent tutorials the same way now#also yes sephora and ulta are evil and all that but like the same amount theyve always been.#yall really acting like these imposed beauty standards being exposed to children is like a new unique tiktom thing thats never happened#before. and yall blaming instagram are no fuckin better. this has been happening The Entire God Damn Time#also theres something rubbing me about the way this is getting talked about. 'she did all thos other arbitrary bullshit except this#One Thing! the discrimination against this one thing is awful!#and like. it is. but i feel like we could address that while also maybe stepping back a tiny bit further and questioning these arbitrary#standards of professionalism too while we're at it#why does she have to have a blazer either? why do the earrings have to be understated#why do the colors have ti be bland and boring? why does he hair have to be a natural color and gender conforming ?#etc etc etc#like if we're accepting all that other shit the ppl upset about this could acknowledge she might experience similar discrimination for say#very obvious goth or punk-y makeup or anything a little too far outside the bounds of the acceptable beauty standard#everyone is pissed about 'eyeliner sharp enough to kill a man' but theyd be saying nothing if she was discriminated for fuckin#big wings and black lipstick bc well thats Obviously not professional standard makeup. okay?#if we change how we look at professional standards of dress and makeup as a whole to include Fucking Freak Bitches#then it would be a lot easier to include No Makeup in there as welllllll#idk#im a no makeup bitch with blue hair whos only ever worked in warehouses so they didnt give too much of a shit about my lack of makeup#or blue hair as long as i didnt show up in like flip flops which is a Reasonable dress code bc its got an actual fucking reason#(safety so you dont lose your goddamn toes to a box or a grate or some shit) vs it makes the office corpo bros sad#anyway idk if you have the privilege to get away with it i think you should dress weirder in the office to get them used to weirder dress#maybe instead of Suddenly going No Makeup sort of slowly lessen the amount so its not a Sudden change or smth#again: if you have the privilege and job security to get away with it#also also also: easier to get away with if you were to say. mask. js. they cant get mad at schrodingers lack of lipstick
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I remember back when The Mountain Goats No Children was a meme on here seeing a post that went “I hope you live, i hope we both live,” and it making me SO angry…
And this was before I had ever even listened to the song (or anything by TMG for that matter), but now, knowing that John wrote the song, and specifically the line “I hope you die, I hope we both die” in response to radio overplay of the sugary sweet I Hope You Dance, I feel even more vindicated, because like.
Yes. Ultimately my overall life philosophy is that I hope we all live… I would hope that goes without saying. But No Children isn’t a life philosophy. It’s about how sometimes everything sucks and you feel like shit and trapped and hopeless and angry and I HOPE YOU DIE, I HOPE WE BOTH DIE!!!!!!!!! And who can’t relate to that? Who has NEVER felt like that in their lives??????
I feel a little silly accusing what was ultimately just a joke meme post of Toxic Positivity, but that was the vibe I was getting from it, which is why it made me mad. As though it was sticking up its nose at a song it clearly had no understanding of and going “well I hope we both LIVE 😇😇” and like. Fuck you lol. It’s okay to feel negative emotions. It’s okay to be angry.
#tmg#the mountain goats#tagging bc i feel strongly about this lol… i’m sure i’m not the first to say this#but like. you know. if negative songs aren’t your thing then that’s cool - i respect that#but they still have a right to exist#it’s like people saying that stories with tragic endings shouldn’t exist… that non-hopeful stories should not exist#they can’t understand how people could get catharsis from that too#and it’s okay to not understand! there are plenty of things people enjoy that i’ll never understand#but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t exist#or need to be sanitized#idk… my personal experience with No Children is that i avoided listening to it for the LONGEST time bc i thought it’d just be edgy bullshit#but then i FINALLY listened to it and i was like ‘oh yeah - i’ve been there’#and i’ve been a Mountain Goats fan ever since#bc i really respect and appreciate the way that John doesn’t see negative feelings as the antithesis to healing#there are a lot of artists out there who are like ‘yeah i made a lot of negative songs when i was in a bad place but now i’m getting better#so i’m gonna make happy peppy songs now!’ and like. hey - good for them! more power to them!#but i like the acknowledgment that experiencing those darker feelings doesn’t mean you’re a terrible person or backsliding#it’s okay to just *FEEL*#and it’s okay to sing ‘No Children’ at the top of your lungs in your house all alone#you might even feel BETTER afterwards!#don’t know until you try it!!
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