#oh good lord it’s Sam and Dean from Supernatural

[l1tw1ck]

bottom Dean x dom!top!amab reader

started watching supernatural and good lord they are hot. only writing for dean and sam atm, only on s2

cw: nipple play, orgasm denial, begging

It was late at night, so dark that Dean had to walk around the house with his lighter. He's staying over at your place while he hunts down another creature. He couldn't sleep so he's getting a glass of water. He thought he was being quiet but he thought wrong, he jumps when the light turns on. "Can't sleep, Dean?" You smile.

"Guess not. Didn't mean to wake ya."

"It's fine." You slowly walk over to him, towering over his slightly shorter frame. He leans back into the sink, intimidated for some reason. "I know a way to help you fall asleep."

He knows exactly what you mean. "Be gentle." He smirks.

Dean grips the edge of the sink and leans his head back, mouth agape as you bottom out inside him. You're bigger than anything he's ever taken. He's only used his fingers but still. "Fuh- fuck–" He moans.

"Am I too big for you, baby?" You tease him, sneaking your hands up underneath his shirt to play with his nipples. Dean gasps in shock, ass squeezing your cock in pleasure. "Oh, you like that?"

He grips the sink harder, a short and strained whimper leaving his lips before he bites on the lower one. He feels good but he still has pride.

"Don't be shy," You slowly pull out before slamming into him. He can't help but let out a loud, slutty moan. "I wanna hear you, Dean."

Dean moans uncontrollably as you roughly fuck him, his pre cum dripping onto the floor and a string of curses leaving his pretty wet lips. "Shit!" He cries out, your cock hitting his prostate. "There! Right— fuck~!"

"You wanna come, Dean?" You grip the tip of his cock, preventing him from getting release. "Beg for it. Beg for me to let you come like the whore you are."

"I'm no- not a whore!"

"No? Then why are you taking my cock like you are?"

He whimpers again. His pride isn't worth it. He wants needs to come. "Ple- please! Please let me come, [Name]~! I wanna come~!"

"Good boy." Dean comes right when you release his cock, cum splattering all over the cabinet and floor.

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hi! I saw you wanted supernatural requests so I was wondering if you could do Sam with an Angel! Reader? Like he finds them on a hunt and brings them back to a motel and they eventually fall in love or something? Please and thank you!

Sam Winchester x GN Angel!Reader

Notes: I absolutely adore this prompt!! I love angel imagery and 'religious' themes in media, especially in horror content. This is so cute to me?? I love it???

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Castiel was Dean Winchester's angel.. but you? You were Sam's.

Well... Sam hadn't known about you, and there were a few times where Castiel sensed you near and almost blew your cover. You hadn't even meant to get caught by Sam when you did.. but it was such a close call..

Sam had been on a solo hunt, a witch.. But it had gone wrong, a demon had showed and had him good.. so you may or may not have threw the door open and put your vessel in danger. You meant to get out as quickly as you came but it was too late. Sam had questions.

"Ruby..?" Ruby.. yes the demon. She had been staying away from Sam since you had started keeping a closer eye on him.

"No. I am no demon." Sam wiped some blood from his mouth, confused.

"Who are you?"

"My name is Y/n and I am an angel of the Lord,"

So, of course, in usual hunter fashion, he took you to his car and tried out every single trick in the book to harm you. When none of it worked, he sat you in the passenger seat of the rental he was using, and called dean.

"Hello?"

"Dean, is Castiel there?"

"Yeah, Sammy what's up?"

"I need you to ask him if he knows of another angel who goes by Y/n.."

"Have you got yourself an angel too now, Sammy? What, I can never be the special one?"

"Dean just ask him! This is serious."

"Fine.. Fine-" Then another voice was on the phone.

"Hello Sam," You couldn't' help but smile a bit. Castiel.

"Cas I need-" Cas cut him off,

"Dean told me that Y/n was there, is that true?"

"Well- yeah, you know-"

"Y/n, you're the one I've been sensing, yes?" Sam handed you the phone. You looked at it, not knowing what to do. You talked at it.

"Castiel? Yes. It's me. Your voice.. it's in a box-"

"Yes, its fascinating, isn't it? Sam will bring you to us tomorrow, I have a lot of questions."

"O-okay-" You handed the phone back to Sam who hung up.

"So.. How long have you been watching me?"

"A while. Since Dean's return from hell."

"Why reach out now?"

"I didn't wish to do it. You were in danger."

"Why have you been watching me?"

"You think Dean was the only one who deserved to be protected? My job is to watch over you."

"Like a guardian angel?"

"No I'm a soldier."

"Well yes- I mean-" He paused. "Why don't we go back to my motel room and talk more there."

You were mostly quiet. Your eyes seemed harsh, like how castiel's used to be.

Sam unlocked the room and went in to sit on the bed. You walked in but stayed standing. He then bombarded you with questions.

But, that was months ago. Now you were staying in the bunker when you could alongside Castiel and the Winchester brothers. You and Castiel seemed to have an unspoken understanding of each other though. He kept his watch on Dean and you kept your eye on Sam. But lately it had seen like Sam was keeping his eyes on you more and more. Dean had given you some advice, saying to "Go get 'em feathers,"

"Sam?" You wandered into his room, he was sitting on his bed with a book. He was researching for the next hunt.

"yes?" he put it to the side to look at you, which made your vessel feel warm.

"Dean told me I needed to talk to you." Sam smiled,

"Oh yeah? What did he put you up to."

"No, I asked him some questions. He suggested I talk to you about it. Whenever I see you.. my vessel.. my stomach gets all warm and fuzzy and my face feels hot.."

He smiled, "Are you trying to tell me you like me?"

"yes."

"Good. I like you too, angel."

"Good." you said like it was normal. "Now.. what do humans usually do-"

"Do you want to research with me?" he asked, softly.

"Yes.. I'd like that."

[queen-of-deans-booty]

The Devil in the Details: Final Part

Pairing: Dean Winchester x Female!Reader

Word Count: ~1.7k

Warnings: canon angst and violence, extra angst, feeling broken and utterly helpless to the point of depression

Summary: Sam is captured by Lucifer yet again, and it's up to you, Dean, Crowley, Rowena, and Castiel to bust him out. God was never here. God was never the one talking to him. It was all Lucifer. Sam is once again at Lucifer's mercy but this time, he's not gonna let him win.

Season Eleven Masterlist

Author’s Note: I do not own anything from Supernatural. All credit goes to their respective owners. I love seeing any and all comments <3

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You look at Billie before stepping through the door. It closes behind you and you're transported directly into Hell.

"Crowley!" you yell once you reach a long hallway. "I know you're in here!" Crowley and Dean come around the corner and you practically throw yourself in Dean's arms. "Sam's in the Cage with Lucifer?"

"Yeah. Is she dead?"

"I don't know. Angels came after her. I tried to go back and check but I got too sick. Apparently, smite sickness is a thing. Castiel went to check for me." You turn to Crowley. "Where is Sam?"

"Don't worry about Sam."

"I'm sorry, have you met us?"

"Lucifer needs the moose. He's not going to kill him, probably. You two versus the Devil... trust me there are easier ways of committing suicide. We need to focus on Rowena."

"Yes, let's kill her," you say eagerly.

"Easier said than done I'm afraid. Plus, we need Mother to slam the Devil back in his hole."

"Is she gonna cooperate?"

"She doesn't have a choice. May I have the box?" You hand the box Billie gave you over to Crowley. He pulls out some sort of spiky crown. "It's called a witch-catcher. Most of them were destroyed after the Inquisition, but Billie came through."

"What does it do?"

"You're going to love this," Crowley grins. "Just follow my lead."

Crowley hands the crown over to Dean and motions for you two to stay hidden while he goes inside and talks to his mother. Rowena is drinking a cup of tea and she smirks when she sees her son.

"How's Y/N and Dean?" she asks.

"Pardon?"

"Little tip, love. The next time you go about making secret plans, check your pockets."

Crowley reaches into his jacket pocket and takes outa hex bag that Rowena placed there without him knowing.

"You heard?"

"Everything, dear."

You and Dean walk into the room and you glare at her.

"Not that it matters."

"What does that mean?" she asks her son.

"A little tip Mother. Never accept a cup of tea from someone who loathes you."

Rowena's smile disappears and she begins to choke. Dean jumps into action and places the witch-catcher around her neck the second she doubles over in a fit of coughs. You don't even need to use your magic on her.

"Get this bloody thing off of me," Rowena screams.

"I would, but this bloody thing makes you my slave." Rowena scoffs and Crowley smirks. "Hop on one foot."

"Please, Fergus. I don't know what kind of Oedipal Fifty Shades you think you're playing at but if you think for a second..." Her words trail off when she starts to hop on one foot against her will. "Bollocks."

"Alright, let's do this," you say.

Rowena has no choice but to do as Crowley says and gets the spell set up to push Lucifer back into his cage. You and Dean watch Lucifer with glares on your faces while Sam stares back hopelessly.

"How long is this gonna take?" Dean sighs impatiently.

"About five minutes. Unless Sam says yes."

"What if he does?" you ask.

"If Lucifer finds a vessel, he'll be anchored to earth. The incantation won't work."

"Work faster," you glare.

"I'm sorry, my Lord." Everyone turns to see a demon walking in with Castiel next to him. He doesn't look so good. He looks battered and bruised. "I tried to stop him."

"Castiel?"

"Oh good, the angel is here," Crowley rolls his eyes.

"What happened to you?"

"Amara is alive. She sent me this message."

Castiel rips his shirt open to reveal a message carved into his skin. I AM COMING. Fear prickles your skin and you turn to your husband with tears.

"She sucked my magic out, Dean. She scares me."

"I am coming. Is that a threat?" Crowley asks.

"Or a promise."

Suddenly, Sam's scream of pain echoes through the area, and you immediately become on alert.

"Sam!" Dean yells.

You, Dean, and Castiel immediately run out of the room and to where the Cage is

"Don't!" Crowley begs desperately.

Lucifer punches Sam back down to the ground, and your brother-in-law raises his arms to deflect his blows.

"Hey, ass-butt!" Castiel yells.

Lucifer turns to you three, and you stand in front of the two men with magic pouring out of your hands.

"Even I can see you're not at full power," Lucifer smirks. He snaps his fingers, and all three of you are transported into the Cage. You run to Sam and start to heal his wounds. "Welcome to the party. Scared?"

"Not even a little," Dean growls.

Castiel slides an angel blade from the sleeve of his trenchcoat and faces against his older brother.

"Ah, moments like this, it's all about ambiance."

Lucifer snaps his fingers and music starts playing. Tavares' "Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel" starts playing from somewhere. Lucifer smirks and dances, clearly mocking you four. Castiel lunges at Lucifer but the archangel grabs the angel and pulls him to the side. You and Dean help Sam up who looks fearful still.

"Are you okay?"

"Yeah. We can't win this one."

"We don't have to win. We've just gotta last a few minutes."

Lucifer punches Castiel and you jump in to help. You jump onto Lucifer's back and wrap your arms around his neck as a form of strangulation. Your arms and eyes glow bright blue as you work your magic into him. Lucifer stumbles back and grabs your arms with his eyes bright red.

"You strangle like a human," he growls.

"Don't touch my family," you growl back.

The blue magic flares up even more the more you use it, and Lucifer cries out in pain when it starts to burn his skin. He braces himself and reaches behind himself to grab you. He flings you off him and into the bars on the other side of the cage, and you slide down them in a grunt of pain. Both brothers have their fill of Lucifer next. Dean sends a swift punch to Lucifer's jaw, and Sam punches him in the gut.

Lucifer elbows Sam in the face and grabs Dean's throat before slamming him into the bars of the cage. The archangel looks back at Sam who is lying on the ground covered in blood.

"Alright Sam, I'm gonna make this real easy for you. You say the magic word or your brother dies... and we both know you won't let that happen."

Castiel charges at Lucifer and yanks him away from Dean. You scramble up and join your husband's side who is coughing violently. You put a hand to his head and heal him of his injuries, beckoning Sam closer so you can do the same for him. Lucifer grabs Castiel and in the next second, there is a flash of a white light. Lucifer is gone and you're no longer in the cage. Rowena did it. Crowley and Rowena stand off to the side and watch as you walk over to them.

"You're welcome? Anyone?" Rowena scoffs.

"Bite me," Dean growls.

"I can make her do that."

"Here, let me heal you," you say to Castiel.

"I'm fine."

He dismisses you and you frown at his behavior. You let it go for now knowing what you four just endured.

"So, what now?" Sam asks.

"About the Darkness? No clue. You'll figure it out, I'm sure."

"Or die screaming," Rowena smirks.

"This has been a horrible train wreck, so we're done. Team up over."

"What about her?" Sam asks, pointing to Rowena.

"She stays. The rest of you lot... Get the hell out of Hell."

You leave Hell with Crowley's help and walk back to the Impala. She has never looked so good before.

"Are you okay?" Dean asks the angel.

"I think so. I will be."

"Do you want me to give you a lift?"

"No, you three go on ahead. I'll catch up."

"Okay."

You three get into the car as Castiel stands off to the side and watches you go with a half-smile. Castiel looks like he's in pain, so why wouldn't he want you to heal him? Dean peels out of the area and gets onto the main road with ease.

"Is he alright?"

"Can you blame him if he's not? It's been a rough day."

"Are you okay, Sam?" you ask.

"I don't know. I mean what if Lucifer was telling the truth? What if he's the only--"

"No, dude. The Darkness is bad. Her and the Devil is a nightmare I don't even want to think about."

A break is what you three need, especially after the hell you've been through. Two weeks pass of relaxing and hoping that Amara stays off the grid. Christmas morning comes sooner than you think, and the kids are jumping on your bed to wake you up. Molly is back home with her family so you're Christmas is spent with your family.

"Joanna, you're jumping on my stomach," you cough and open your eyes.

"It's Christmas morning! Come on! Santa came!"

"Okay, we're up. Why don't you go wake Uncle Sam, okay?"

"Sammy!!"

She runs out of the room screaming her uncle's name, and Maryann runs after her on her little legs.

"Wait for me!"

"Noah," Dean groans tiredly.

"I got them."

Noah follows after his sisters to make sure they don't hurt themselves by running through the hallways.

"Come on, we gotta get up."

"Just one more minute," Dean groans. You lean over and press your lips to his, morning breath forgotten. His lips part and you barely peek your tongue into his mouth before he shoots up in bed. "I'm up."

You two leave the room just in time to see Joanna tug Sam by the arm over to the Christmas tree you decorated. The dogs are lying by the presents as if they were protecting them from thieves. Zeus stands and licks your hand when you go to pet him, and Colonel doesn't move when you pet him. Joanna starts picking up presents and separating them based on who they're for. The kids sit by the tree with presents all around them while you, Sam, and Dean sit at the library table and watch.

"Go ahead."

The kids rip open their presents and you try to be present and in the moment. You're not gonna get many more Christmases like this one, especially when they start getting older. Amara lingers in the back of your mind, always reminding you of the dark cloud hovering above your head. Dean puts a hand over yours as if he can read your mind. You give him a smile you hope is convincing but you know it's not. He kisses you briefly because that's all he can do.

No one can fix this but you and you're gonna try like hell to make sure your family is safe.

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[rosemariad]

SUPERNATURAL SEASON 15 - final season - bitter end part 2

See p1 here | https://www.tumblr.com/rosemariad/761290454081929216/supernatural-season-15-final-season-part-1-i

OH MY LORD – FINALLY – a FUCKING APOLOGY, from Dean. Winchester.

And it happened in purgaytory 😉 lol. Moment of silence for dead Benny :/

I wish we could've gotten a shot of Cas listening to him. We've always seen Dean pray to Cas but we never see Cas hear them on his end, like when Jack was hearing Sam's prayer. I think that would've been dope as fuck to see Castiel's reaction. When Cas & Dean finally do catch up to one another, Cas seems so...reserved. I feel like He knew DAMN well (like 90%) what Dean might say (or maybe he's so in denial about the possibility that Dean could return his affections in that way)

How are we almost halfway to the end and this is the first time we’ve seen Jack at all during this FINAL season? You introduce him in episode 12.23, you kill him (twice) and we don’t even get to see how he’s doing? We know he’s in the empty from 14x20’s closing montage.

15x10 was a pretty decent episode since we got to see Garth again ☺️ & he's settled into the domestic life with his wife Bessie - they had twins and a older daughter & neither child is named after Dean (🤣 Serves him right these days, since he's being such a douche!) wonder why Garth chose to name his baby after Cas though…did they ever interact? I don't recall…Watching Sam meet baby Sam is precious

(also how wild is it that the Garth & Benny actors are a married couple now? SPN man, they should've had a dating show given how many relationships came outta 1 production that lasted 15 yrs!)

Watching Sam sniff and cough & sneeze post-COVID is wild!

Taking on that giant monster was Hilarious - this was what SPN was missing - definitely peak content! Look at those hunter guys get reduced to regular chumps 🤣 fantastic!

Was Dean scared of the dentist? Had he ever BEEN to a dentist? Wow John, you couldn't take your son to a damn dentist - with all the junk food that boy eats? Even so, you want him running around without teeth?

Watching Sam writhe around with some cure all Bessie learned from her dad (he's dead I guess?) was equally hilarious!

WTF was with Dean's hallucination? These writers are trippin - out of all the things you could've done, you make Dean & Garth tap dance? What was the point? And some oldies shit? Sure Dean would've been exposed to reruns of the good ol' days but that’s never really been his interest before? And the lamp at the end? TF? I've read some posts about what others thinking it all means but I say the artistic direction is wack. But all aside the dentist Garth bit is awesome!

Garth couldn't have said it better - being the hero/protagonist is a drag - more so for comic book heroes cuz of the tragic backstory but in the Winchesters' case - it suuuuuuuuuucks.

I'm all for some Winchester humble pie. SPN should be normal people problems show mixed with cooky supernatural shenanigans. It would never get old 😂

Dean why did you think you could gobble down 7 grilled cheese sandwiches - all that dairy - oh man. So I guess that's normal for him…bad, real bad. Normal Dean would be dead in a week 🤣🤣

Anyway Garth swooping in to save the day for a change, is a welcome change ☺️ [is this the last time we'll see him in the show though? 😥]

Interesting how they seem to keep switching back & forth between how hopeless the odds are in going against the big G.O.D. to no we're gonna find a way cuz we're the Winchesters & that’s what we do. Yeah okay 🤣

Jack's been hunting & eating Grigori hearts - damn. Not looking forward to why…

Meanwhile we get more backstory on all the other gods in human history through Fortuna, goddess of luck/fortune? Interesting, it seems like God allowed others to be worshipped so they could suffer the bad PR when things when wrong for people & they would get the blame (pretty sure plenty people still blame God for bad stuff all the time — like Dean 😅).

Good for Sam fighting for those people stuck under Fortuna's thumb. Small victories though…

Kaia survived, but I know we'll never see her again now. No reunion w/ Claire, or the others…wah 😔 meanwhile Alt!Kaia is definitely dead, we saw her face her end - way to take out that plot device writers 🙄

Dean seems pretty gung-ho on taking out God & Amara - buddy I know you feel helpless but there is no cosmic entity that is gonna be on your side all the time. The control freak inside him is going rabid y'all he's convinced that it’s the only way out but neglects to answer the question - if God (and Amara - cold by the way - is he punishing her for Mary? Amara was the one who brought her back in the first place) is taken out, what happens to the universe?

Jack is still giving me those intern vibes - Cas WTF were you thinking? I know you didn't forget about that deal…but damn if he ain't a team player, always willing to risk it all to help his precious Dean bean & the baby bro Sam.

I love how the brothers took Jo/Anael at her word - like really? There was no other way to investigate the veracity of her story than by simply going to hell? Really? Also they couldn't squeeze in Rowena for 1 final appearance? Boo!

And what was Anael's last line about? What friends could she possibly be talking about? Did God have her set this up? Lead the guys on a wild goose chase to waste time? Who fucking knows anymore, but I guess it doesn't matter as this is technically Anael (& Ruby's) final scene in the show.

Ruby you're screwed - there's no way she got out and no way to know - anyway onto the plot!

Look at this family shot - precious!

So between this episode & 12x07 Sam's superpower is handling doors - keeps them open when he needs to & closed when he has to. Sam, keeper of the doors!

The Empty & Death Billie teamed up? Oh shit, that's gonna backfire fast!

Classic Dean Winchester move to call your beloved an idiot when you almost lost him….again. I can't keep track of the various close calls this angel had over the years.

Best gem of 15x13 - the Alternate Sam & Dean - affluent dudes who were raised by a successful business savvy John Winchester who raised his sons with a modicum of respect & some fashion sense it seems all the while building a supernatural hunting empire spanning the entire globe (damn). And at the end they went to Brazil? So canonically there's 2 sets of Sams & Deans running around - too bad nothing else will come out of that…they should've stolen the Impala - that shit would've been hilarious.

After all these years we finally got to see THE Garden of Eden. It would've been cool to see it sooner in the show but oh well. The trip seems to have given Jack the ability to feel again, get his soul back. And he is wracked with guilt over Mary as if we didn’t have enough of that to deal with…

The words you're looking for guys is I FORGIVE YOU! Like he's a kid, it was an accident & he's clearly fucking sorry for it, the guilt is tearing him apart, you're not blind you can see it but God forbid either Winchester just says the magic words.

Now Mrs. Butters - I'm not cool with that shit at all. I peeped immediately based on the 1st scene that she wasn't there willingly. Why would she? She's a fucking wood nymph and while there's a bunch of trees outside, the bunker sure as shit ain't no forest. Someone forced her to work in that bunker & the fact that imagery of Cuthbert Sinclair keeps coming up confirms it.

She was probably their slave - that's so fucked. And Sinclair tortured her into obedience. That poor creature…she deserved so much better. shame on Sam & Dean for using that poor woman - you can't find the time to cook & clean up after yourselves? - I know Dean is good at it. But no, SPN had to set women back decades and force Mrs. Butters into waiting on them hand and foot. Shame, damn shame. Thankfully they eventually let her go, but only cuz Jack's life was in jeopardy and god forbid the Winchesters lose their handy ace in the hole when their maid/slave gets murderous. Really Dean, ‘just start over’?!, she threatened your kid you dumbass, do you really want someone to take care of you that fucking bad? WTF?!?!

All those feasts & Cas never showed up once -- bullshit!!!! Bullshit I say!

Apparently when Cas does eventually return to the screen & wraps up some trouble w/ Jack (aww he wanted to wear matching ties! And he has a teddy bear? Did Cas give him one? He gave one to Claire a couple of seasons ago) jack spills that he's meant to die & sacrifice himself to take out God & Amara. I know you're not on board Cas but speak up. Why is everyone so afraid to stand up to Dean Jesus Christ. He's just a man, sure he'll punch you but that just means you hit back or you know, don't let him punch you!

We get 1 final glimpse into Sam & Dean's childhood. Pro tip Dean: if you want your baby bro to stick around, don't ridicule his goals or call him stupid. Just a thought (I know he's a kid himself but that's what I would've said to the kid) but hey ultimately none of it matters right, jeez 😒

The lady lied to the brothers to get them to show up, did you ever think to incentivize them with money? It wouldn't take much, they probably wouldn't even take it or you know just tell them the truth, they're hunters it's what they do.

It's the baba yaga? It almost got to Dean but thankfully Sam was conveniently there to break the spell or whatever was gonna try to make Dean kill himself. The vic, Travis, apparently had the entity's ring all this time so it's back for revenge? And to eat ofc it's hungry. Too bad she failed cuz she's dead as one of the final MOTW ever on SPN. And just when we thought Dean made progress he ruins it by being supremely committed to Billie's plan -- cuz God forbid Sam bring up ethical questions into plotting someone's murder Dean, even if it is about cosmic entities and you know, your kid, Jack. Will the real Dean Winchester stand up cuz I think he wouldn't do this under any other circumstances. If I were Sam I would've jumped out of that car in pure disgust. Sam seemed inclined to do that.

Anyway the Jack suicide bomb plan ultimately didn't matter either cuz Amara ends up siding w/ Chuck after he makes her see that Dean was actually planning on killing her along w/ her brother.

Side bar - I love how she just had a whole season's long vacation just enjoying what the planet had to offer before her end. Can't say she didn't try to work things out - with the Winchesters or God. But hey, I know what's up - it's all about the men in this show 🙄

Saying Jack's not family - how fucking dare you! but also another example of inconsistent behavior from Dean - 1 minute he's concerned, the next he's dismissive & neglectful, then the next he cares (emotional whiplash), then he sees Jack as nothing more than a loose-end for fuck's sake Dean pick a lane & make up your damn mind, fuck!

Anyways, Sam should've smacked the shit outta Dean. He deserves it. But I get it Dean, you can't live w/o Sam or Cas but watching Jack die is no big since he took your mommy away, whatever asshole. Then he feels bad, but I feel it's only cuz he can't sit pretty on his high horse knowing the kid heard how little Dean cares for him right now.

Why did Sam & Cas let Jack run off w/ Dean? I sure wouldn't have 😡.

So because Billie's plan went tits up (big surprise there & really Billie you were expecting them not to fuck up, really?) God escaped & in the next, infamous episode of 15x18 people start getting Thanos'd. Endgamed. Disappeared.

Alt!Charlie & her girlfriend Stevie - gone. Eileen, Sam's current GF, gone. Alt!Bobby, gone. The other folks from Apocalypse World - gone.

But Donna gets got too - because Sam & Dean intervened all the way back in her premiere episode (was that season 8? I forget). Did everyone just get disappeared - like everyone Sam, Dean & John saved (that's my headcanon anyhow)? But it doesn’t even stop there…

Hold up - wait a minute - I’m gonna talk about the Destiel moment in 15x18 but I’m gonna save it for a separate post cuz I got to get all that stuff off my chest…https://www.tumblr.com/rosemariad/761296693532803072/the-bitter-end-spn-15x18-despair-about-that

Anywho:

Everyone gets disappeared. I see they were inspired by that Avengers movie 😅 I wonder if they went through the same experience the Marvel folk did canonically…(its that no one remembers what happened to them if they got blipped right?)

15x19 felt so rushed to me did anyone else feel that way?

Jack asks what happened to Cas (RIP you beautiful angel 😭) but Dean just offers a simple explanation. After countless days of misery and drinking, Jack prompts the brothers to drive around and Dean finds a dog only to have it disappear like everyone else - there's no way Chuck missed the dog, he just wanted Dean to bond with her so he could feel her loss too. Damn. So vengeful.

The Winchesters say they surrender but at this point I wouldn't believe them and apparently it was all part of their master plan. They ran into Michael (who's lost Adam at this point RIP Adam, again) and Dean calls Michael out as a daddy's boy but you would know wouldn't you Dean 🤣 game recognize game

When Dean got that phone call & ran up those steps, oh Dean you poor miserable bastard.

The devil, conveniently back from the void from whence he came, scrounges up a reaper - why are there reapers at this point (isn’t everyone gone anyways?) was she brought from the Empty? Kill her so she can be Death # 3 and open up the mysterious book that describes God's imminent demise but the devil killed her one more time before she could finish cuz he's God's favorite now (so he says Chuck says 🙄) pissing off Michael but as the brothers explained later this would all work in their favor but RIP Jessica - last female figure to be killed off on SPN? She basically died for nothing as Sam & dean came up w/ a new plan.

While the archangels squab, Michael gets the upper hand and finally kills Lucifer (so how was this fight going to devastate the planet cuz the bunker didn't even get messed up or nothing - very underwhelming since this is technically the last we’ll see of the devil in the show) & later Michael snitches to God when everyone drives out to summon Chuck to try killing him off once and for all. Then Michael dies cuz God is tired of him I guess (sure he said it’s cuz Michael dique betrayed him but I mean do you even care about that?) sucks for Mike I guess 🤷🏽‍♀️

All the celestial fighting was apparently powering up Jack after he juiced himself up for that bomb & couldn't kill off God sooner. by the end of the episode Jack siphons the remaining energy out of Chuck and instead of squashing him like a bug they all just decide to walk away, leaving Chuck Shurley a mortal, ordinary man to die off on his own (omg the way he squealed as they ditched him, geez 🤦🏾‍♀️).

This is why you should've just destroyed them Chuck! You'd think he'd know better than to savor their doom. Tsk tsk.

I would've shot him, burned him and had Jack disintegrate the ashes to nothing. But fuck being thorough I guess 🤣

Jack brings everyone back & leaves the brothers (I would've done the same, fuck those Winchesters, Sam's alright but Dean is just ugh at this point) & Aside from Rowena I can't think of anyone else who ends up with a win like Jack. He was born the Nephilim of Lucifer but ended up becoming a noble God.

I also gotta vent about that last episode - https://www.tumblr.com/rosemariad/761299089485889536/supernatural-season-15-the-bitter-end-series

[veryace-ficrecs]

Hey! Would you do an outsider pov list of stuff i havent seen in a while or new stuff if you can find it

you got it! o(*￣▽￣*)ブ

POV Outsider Fic Recs

Avatar

the cain instinct by orphan_account - rated G

In which the Fire Lord is a competent and compassionate leader trying to head a successful international peace summit, but he is also a seventeen-year-old boy. And the Avatar won't stop calling him his great-grandson, and thus is in sore need of a beatdown.

Star Wars

i implore you (it’s time to come back) by HiddenEye - Rated T

And then, the door swings open, with Luke opening his mouth to no doubt tell her off, when he freezes at the sight of the Mandalorian. “You gotta be kidding me.” Luke blurts out, burning a hole into the middle of his new visitor’s head with a vicious frown.

Supernatural

A Missed Connection by hearnopromises - Not Rated

On their way to visit Sam, Dean and Castiel sit next to a young woman on their departing flight from Kansas. Dean thinks the bumblebee pin on her bag would make a perfect gift for his husband. She thinks Dean would make a perfect addition to her bed.

25 and Still Alive by goldenraeofsun - Rated G

Claire steps out of Jay Street Diner with relief. It wasn’t a bad morning shift, overall. She overheard a few out-of-towners gossiping about a weird death a couple cities over that she’ll check out tonight. Outside, she takes a deep breath of air that doesn’t smell like pancake syrup and bacon and pulls out her phone. The screen lights up with no new texts from Castiel, even though he usually makes plans for lunch by now. But no, the last thing he sent her was a link to a video of a cat walking across a piano three days ago. Claire looks up and stops dead in her tracks. The Impala idles next to the curb.

stars & dots by piesexuality - Rated T

The thing is that Jack is a good student. A great student, even.

As the school counselor, Vera’s been trying to make sense of it on her own for awhile. He's such a nice boy, but his behavior is off-putting in a way she can't quite put her finger on. She hates having to bring parents into the equation, but with Jack, she’s reached the point where there’s simply nothing else she can do.

9-1-1

so darlin', save the last dance for me by ashavahishta - Rated T

"I’m wearing a wedding ring! Do I have to get ‘property of Buck Diaz’ tattooed on my forehead?”  “Oh, Buck would love that,” Lena laughs.   “He really would,” Eddie muses with a grin. “He’d get a matching one. Might help with all the thirsty single parents he deals with at his job.”  “Doesn’t he have your wedding photo prominently displayed in his office?” “And like ten photos of us with Christopher, yep,” Eddie agrees. “Doesn’t stop people from trying.” Or: "Eddie Diaz drinks his 'I fucking love my husband' juice for ANOTHER 6,000 words", feat: Dad!Buck, mother hen Eddie, and Pride celebrations with the 118.

with sweet (mis)understanding by cloudyycolfer - Rated T

“You’re a lifesaver, Evan.” “I know.” Buck replies. “It’s in the job description.” Maddie’s eyes are stuck on her brother. “You’re in his will and you still think he isn’t in love with you?” or the one where evan buckley and eddie diaz are keeping their relationship underwraps. (the 118 have their speculations and theories on the truth)

Red Ribbon by AshwinMeird - Rated G

Nell was familiar with the many injury-prone members of the 118 because of her dad's stories from making them cakes but also from being the one running the front of the shop and taking their cake orders. Only this time it wasn't a return to work from an injury cake. This was a getting together cake for two of the firefighters.

Eyes On You by sealeviathan - Not Rated

Hen liked their new probie. Buck was easy to get along with. He had a husband and a son, he was good at his job and helped everyone to the best of his ability. Not only that, but he was actually interesting. He was passionate, funny, caring and he fit well into the team dynamic. Hen was happy with this information - happy with her knowledge of one Evan Buckley. That being said, she really didn't expect Buck to be the disloyal type. But here he was, at a bar, practically drooling over some bartender in front of all of his coworkers. The guy even seemed familiar with Buck. --- Or: The fic where Buck blatantly lusts over Eddie. Hen and Chimney worry they're about to witness a marriage-ending move because Buck failed to mention that Eddie is the man he's married to.

come home to my heart by coupe_de_foudre - Rated G

“Ev?” an unfamiliar voice rings through the room, following the sound of the front door being ripped open, and Bobby’s head whips in the direction it comes from, “Evan Buckley-Diaz, you better be here or so help me God! You’re in serious shit.”

Spider-Man

Five Times Tony Stark's Fabled Intern Just Showed Up + One Time He Was Invited by kingdomfaraway - Rated G

While Leroy didn’t like gossip, he wasn’t immune to it and he’d heard about a young boy claiming to be Tony Stark’s intern showing up randomly throughout the building. He just figured it was some random mystery, a Stark Industries cryptid if you will. Never did he think he’d have a sighting. “Are you Peter Parker?” Leroy questioned, narrowing his eyes at the young boy, looking for any signs of deceit. “Oh yeah, that’s me, hi!” Possibly Fabled Intern Peter Parker reached into his pocket and pulled out a badge and lanyard, this one with his face on it and INTERN written underneath it. “Mr. Stark got me a badge so I can get nachos whenever I want.”

Yuri!!! On Ice

Fill the World with Music by prettybirdy979 - Rated T

It's been a whirlwind of a week for Phichit, not only because of his competing in the Grand Prix Finals. Yuuri seems to have made it his mission to surprise everyone a dozen times over before the end of the competition. But there's only the gala exhibition tomorrow to go. Surely Yuuri (and Viktor) can't manage one more surprise by then? (Aka that fic where Viktor breaks twitter, Yuuri breaks the internet then pretends to not understand, and together they break their friends)

The Time(s) The Internet Collectively Exploded by MEIXIU - Rated T

It started with Victor Nikiforov's departure from Figure Skating to suddenly pursue a career in coaching with a certain Japanese man and then it escalated quickly from then on.

#KissOrHug by Aurum - Rated G

Yuuri and Victor make #Victuri trend worldwide. Phichit accidentally makes it worse.

My fun fact is: by stillmadaboutpetra - Rated G

Yuuri fails to mention to his new non-skater friends who he is or who his husband is. Or that he even has a husband.

How To Train Your Dragon

familiar (but this time i've had some practice) by aloneintherain - Rated T

Every decade, three teenagers are dragged from the future and placed in their younger bodies to give predictions that will set the tone for the next ten years on Berk. But how are three dragon riders supposed to give prophecy to a village full of dragon-hating vikings? (Time travel AU)

Naruto

Sasuke's No Good Very Bad Teammates by GwendolynStacy - Rated T

Naruto and Sakura have gone insane. Or: Just after becoming Team 7 Naruto and Sakura go through a massive shift in personality, leaving Sasuke out of the loop and wondering what in the name of sanity could have happened to them. His only consolation is that Kakashi is just as weirded out as he is.

Batman

The five times Flash came to Gotham for help and the one time he didn't need to (5+1) by Silver_Athena - Not Rated

Barry needs help solving a murder, he goes to Gotham for help. Though he's looking for Batman he seems to constantly run into new heroes. Why do they all seem connected to Batman? --- “You know where he lives?” “I practically live there myself, why is this so surprising to you? You’ve worked with him for- Oh… oh my God, you guys don’t know!"

[allthesmutl0vers]

The Fate Of Us: Chapter Three

Chapter Three

Y/n

One Week Later

To say that living with Bobby is great is an understatement. Ever since I showed up at his door a week ago, he has taken me in as his own. Well, technically, I am his flesh and blood… But it’s nothing like it was to live with my father.

Bobby has taken me under his wing and taught me so many things in just one short week. He’s shown me how to work on cars, patiently explaining the different parts and how to troubleshoot any issues on my own.

He’s also shown me a few fighting moves. According to Bobby, just because I can’t die doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to fight. At the same time, I’ve told him a few things I’ve picked up from watching the show. For example, to kill a dragon, you need to use something called ‘The sword of Bruncvik.’ Or that curing the virus from the darkness— which I also explained— you simply pour holy oil over the blackened veins.

Today, the anticipation is electric as I prepare to meet Sam and Dean. My nerves are on edge, but the excitement is undeniable.

Bobby told me not to worry. That even though Dean is a little rough around the edges, he’s a good guy. And that he’s sure that Sam is just as nice as he seems.

I’m trying to focus on writing my novel, thankful that I was able to bring my laptop and phone here with me. Even more thankful that they still work and are somehow still connected to my old world. Usually, I’d watch Supernatural to calm my nerves and anxiety, but something about watching it inside Bobby’s house just feels wrong.

Instead of seeking solace in Supernatural, I turn to my world of words. I’m diving into my new novel, a dark college bully romance. As I shut out the new world around me, I feel a sense of purpose and escape, ready to immerse myself in my writing.

I’m just starting on the second chapter when I hear someone clear their throat behind me. I jump, almost knocking over my laptop, as I turn around to see Bobby with Sam and Dean standing on either side of him.

God have mercy. The show did not prepare me for how tall they actually are.

Sam is obviously taller than Dean, but actually, being in front of him, I can see how hazel his eyes actually are. A deep, warm brown in the center, with a pale green around the edges. His body is massive, standing at at least six foot eight. His biceps pressed against the short sleeves of his t-shirt. But he’s not intimidating; instead, he feels inviting. Like the kind of guy you could just relax and hang out with, doing something by doing nothing.

Then there’s Dean. Good lord… Deep emerald green eyes that feel too green to be real, his gaze piercing through me as he seems to analyze me for any threat risks. Though he’s not as tall as Sam is, he’s still tall. Standing at somewhere around maybe six foot four. Either way, both of them are a foot or more taller than I am. Dean’s arms are crossed over his chest, suggesting he feels wary about me and my presence here. He doesn’t make me feel unwelcome here, just out of place.

I shift on my feet as Bobby clears his throat again. “I told you, boys, she sure does love to write,” Bobby chuckles. Sam chuckles with him, giving me a small smirk as Dean’s face remains almost unreadable. “Boys, this is y/n. Y/n, this is Sam and Dean.”

Sam is the first one to step forward, leaning slightly over the back of the couch and holding out his hand. “Nice to meet you. Don’t mind Dean,” Sam chuckles as he shakes my hand.

I smile softly and nod my head once. “Y/n, nice to meet you too,” I respond, trying not to feel so nervous. “And I’ll try.”

Sam smiles a little more broadly, chuckling as he runs a hand through his hair. “So, uh, Bobby said you’re not from around here,” Sam says politely.

Dean scoffs and shakes his head. “That’s one way of saying it,” he says grumpily.

I suck my bottom lip between my teeth.

Oh God, he hates me. Maybe I should’ve had Chuck at least make him more welcoming to me. This sucks.

No. No, y/n, this is better. This is real. It’s not right to manipulate how people feel about you.

I clear my throat and look at Dean. “What’s the other way to say it?” I ask, challenging him and cocking a brow in his direction. I took shit from Jim for too long, I won’t take it from Dean too. No matter how much it may hurt.

Dean narrows his eyes at me, straightening his back and taking a step closer, keeping his arms crossed tightly over his chest. “I was going to say you don’t belong here. This isn’t your world. Why don’t you go back to yours where everything is all sunshine and rainbows and leave the monsters to the professionals.” He spits back.

“Dean!” Bobby says loudly behind him.

Now I’m fuming. I clench my jaw and step right up to him, looking into his dark green eyes. “Ever stop to think that God brought me here to save your asses? From that giant ass ego, you’re carrying around?” I snap back at him.

Dean’s nostrils flare as I see my own anger reflected back at me. I’m so focused on not backing down from Dean that I barely hear Sam and Bobby snicker.

Dean looks me up and down as if he’s sizing me up. Dean leans down to my ear, and I fight to keep myself from shivering as he whispers in my ear, his breath sending shivers down my spine. “Stay out of my way, little girl, or you’ll find out what part of me is even bigger than my ego. And I won’t go easy on you either.”

My breath hitches in my chest as I fight the urge to clench my thighs together. Dean leans back and cocks an eyebrow at me before turning back to Bobby and Sam. Dean walks out of the living room and into the kitchen. Sam follows Dean, shaking his head at his brother.

“Did he threaten you, darlin’?” Bobby asks, leaning down to my height. I shake my head no because I can’t repeat what Dean just said to anyone, especially Bobby. “Alright, well, let’s go eat.”

Bobby walks into the kitchen, leaving me in the living room. I suck in a breath, gathering my composure before I enter the kitchen.

I take a seat at the table between Bobby and Sam, sitting directly across from Dean. “So,” Sam clears his throat, looking at me. “How do you like it here so far?” Sam asks me as Bobby places a pot of spaghetti on the table.

I give him a small smile. “I really like it. I’ve learned a lot here, and I can’t wait to meet more people,” I respond kindly.

“Bobby mentioned that in your world, this is all a TV show? I think me and Dean have been to that world before,” Sam says, carrying on the conversation as he loads up his plate.

I nod my head. “Yeah, but it’s a little different from the one you guys went to. I remember that episode,” I say, taking the spoon from Sam, putting food on my plate, and passing it to Bobby.

“Oh? How so?” Sam asks with genuine curiosity as he takes a bite.

“Well, you did actually marry Ruby— Genieve is her name in my world,” Dean snickers across the table. I throw him a glare and continue. “She’s actually really nice; I’ve met her a few times. And Dean married an angel; her name here is Sister Jo, but in my world, it’s Danneel.”

“Dean? Marrying an angel?” Bobby quips with a chuckle.

I giggle softly. “But one thing that was vastly different was that in my world, you guys are best friends, more like brothers, just not blood-related.”

“Wow, that sounds a lot better than the world we went to. Huh, Dean?” Sam asks Dean, who is shoveling spaghetti in his mouth.

Dean swallows and takes a long drag of his beer. “I guess,” he shrugs. “Is there anything you don’t know?” Dean asks me in a mocking tone.

“Jesus, Dean, would it kill you to be nice?” Bobby asks him grumpily.

Dean shrugs. “Probably not. But who knows what she actually knows,” Dean says, taking another drink.

“I know your favorite porn is ‘Busty Asian Beauties,’” I fire back cockily as I take another bite.

Sam chokes on his beer, and Bobby’s eyes widen before he shakes his head, lowering it.

Dean chuckles and shakes his head. “So you know what kind of porn I like, so what? What about stuff I’ve done?” Dean asks, challenging me once again.

“Like the cool stuff you’ve killed?” I ask, taking a sip of my beer. Dean nods his head. I sigh and think back to stuff he’s killed. “Well, let’s see. I’d say Hitler was probably the coolest.”

“I killed Hitler?” Dean asks wide-eyed.

I nod my head. “But my favorite was probably when you killed Death.”

Dean laughs once and claps his hands with a victorious face. “See, now you’re making shit up. You can’t kill Death. He’s Death.”

I chuckle and lean on my elbows, locking my eyes on his. “You can if you kill him with his own scythe,” I quip back.

“She’s right,” Sam says, pointing at me with his beer bottle.

Dean looks at Sam with a glare. “Who’s side are you on, man?” Dean asks grumpily.

“We’re all on the same side, Dean,�� Bobby answers before Sam can.

“And what side is that exactly?” Dean asks, looking at all three of us. “Because last I checked, I didn’t sign on for this job,” Dean looks directly at me. “Why are you even here exactly?” Dean asks.

I look at Bobby, who knows the deal I made with Chuck and why I’m here. Bobby nods once, and I look back at Dean. “I’m here to help God,” I respond, trying not to feel nervous and like I’m spilling a secret— But Chuck never said I couldn’t tell anyone why I’m here.

“What? You met him?” Sam asks from my right side. I turn to look at him and nod.

“Help him with what?” Dean asks, suddenly more interested.

I sigh and lean back in my chair. “He wants to be a better God. He wants a second chance instead of you guys killing him,” I respond to Dean.

“Excuse me, did you just say we kill God?” Dean asks wide-eyed.

I nod my head. “Well, Jack took his powers while he beat the shit out of you two and Cas—tiel,” I stop myself from using Castiel’s nickname, still unsure that I should be using it, considering I haven’t met him yet. “You didn’t really kill him yourselves, but you left him in the middle of the woods with no powers, and he almost died from not being able to survive in the wilderness.”

“Oh my god,” Sam mutters.

“He deserved it, don’t get me wrong. But he wants to be better, and so he called on an angel who took him back in time to about now, and he came to my world to bring me here and help him be better. Something about how he loves my writing, and how I know so much about this world and how it ended, and since he loves to write and knew I was miserable in my world, is what made him decide on me,” I explain to Sam and Dean.

“Mhm. And who is God exactly?” Dean asks skeptically.

I shrug my shoulders. “Chuck Shurley,” I respond, taking a sip of my beer.

“Chuck? As in, author of the Supernatural books Chuck?” Sam asks, surprised.

I nod my head, and Dean laughs, drawing my attention to him. “Bullshit, Chuck is a prophet, not God.”

“Right, he said that. But think about it, Dean,” I lean on the table again. “God has been hidden from angels and demons and everything else; what better place to hide than in plain sight?” I ask him.

“Alright, then explain to me why his name is on the list of prophets,” Dean challenges.

I can’t help but groan and roll my eyes at his arrogance. “And who makes the list of prophets?” I ask him.

“God does,” Sam answers from my side. I turn and nod my head.

Dean shakes his head. “So let me get this straight,” Dean pinches the spot on his nose between his eyes. “God went back in time, got his powers back, and brought you here, to our world, just because he didn’t want to die?” Dean asks.

I nod my head. “Essentially. He made a deal with me to come here and help him be a better God to change his fate.”

“And what was this deal exactly?” Dean asks.

“Boilerplate? That I got to come here because my life in my world sucked, that Bobby got to come back to life and everything here,” I motion around me. “Would be just as it was before the whole Leviathan thing, and that he couldn’t interfere with your lives, Castiel’s, Jody’s, Donna’s, Jack’s, anyone who knows you really, just because he was bored. Which is what he did before.”

“And in return, you just simply help him be a better dude?” Dean asks skeptically.

I nod my head. “Yeah, basically.”

Dean and Sam both slump back in their chairs. “Jesus,” Sam mutters.

Dean chugs the rest of his beer, tossing the empty bottle into the trash can. “Alright then. Guess we’re stuck with you for the time being,” Dean says to me with a cocky smirk on his lips.

I lean back in my chair and sip my beer. “Woe is you,” I reply in an equally mocking tone.

“This is going to be fun,” Sam says, chuckling in a playfully sarcastic tone.

Chapter Four

[imadethisblogtoaskaboutspnmpreg]

what is spm mpreg

My friend. My buddy. My pal. My sweetheart.

What is spn mpreg?

I am so glad you asked!

The answer awaits you... right under the cut 😘

Way back when, when the land was lawless and tumblr was a hopeful place, there was a show called

✨Supernatural✨

This show was beloved by many on the still budding hellsite and beyond! It was the show du jur, the universal blorbo. It was the hottest thing and everybody watched it! Nowadays, you will find but ruins of its former glory but I was there, Anon. I saw it with my own two eyes.

The show itself was about two brothers, Sam and Dean, held together by bonds of trauma formed through shared hardship, who would go on adventures and defeat evils for the good of humanity. Until...

Dean, beloved older brother and sweetheart of many on the internet, perished. The circumstances are irrelevant but oh, was it tragic. Fangirls wept across the planet as one and nobody knew what was going to happen.

But, oh! A sudden change in direction! All of a sudden, Dean was being pulled up by an angelic hand, resurrected like Jesus before him! An impact so strong, so intense it left a permanent mark on his body which the writers never forgot about, ever! Dean Winchester was reborn and all rejoiced for it was Right.

But whoever was the mysterious being that had gripped him tight and raised him from perdition? It didn't take long for the show to explore this and oh my, did it get explored! The answer, of course, was Castiel, and angel of the lord who would henceforth devote himself to Dean and only Dean.

Thus, Destiel was born.

On another platform though, the well respected and important LiveJournal, there were Things abrewing. One of the many things prevalent in the Supernatural (or SPN for short) fandom was the RPF.

As you may know, or you might not, RPF stands for Real Person Fiction, it is similar to the traditional fanfiction but with "characters" who are not characters at all but based on human beings. Despite this, it occasionally features fantastical elements, AUs and other such things.

One user on what we used to call a "kink meme", a place for fans to inspire each other by pawning off ideas, suggested a very particular such RPF. The result took elements from existing tropes such as the heat fic, a longstanding gift from the house of Star Trek, as well as (alleged) wolf behaviour as described in one singular study.

The unholy concoction we were gifted that day is now known as Omegaverse or ABO. Within this trope, there are additional axes to the gender spectrum - but not in a fun, non-binary way! Rather, all humans will fall strictly into one of three categories: Alpha, Beta and Omega.

Alphas are strong and dominant. They can impregnate people regardless of agab and go into ruts. They also have a 💦knot💦 that will fix their penis in a hole after they come.

Omegas are weaker, more pliant. They can become pregnant, once again regardless of agab, and go into 🥵heats🥵 at certain intervals. An omega's heat is what causes an Alpha's rut.

And Betas... well, they're normies, basically. You're a beta 🤷‍♂️

The most common form of ABO fanfic tends to involve the desired characters being an Alpha and an Omega, the Omega going into heat and the Alpha... helping them with it, if you know what I mean 😏

Since the trope makes it so cismale characters can get pregnant (ABO predates the rise of commonly accepted trans headcanons) the community has, of course, attracted many breeding kinksters such as myself. I've seen surprisingly few Omegaverse kidfics tho which is a pleasant thing for me considering I hate kidfics.

And since ABO originated in the SPN fandom (more or less) it is quite popular within it. And before I get a billion asks: yes, there are many other ways to achieve mpreg (male pregnancy) in your blorbos such as oviposition or simply making the character in question trans, but since ABO is the most common Watsonian cause of specifically spn mpreg, I figured I'd focus my reply on that.

Anyway, it's late and I'm getting tired but I still wanna post this before going to bed because my dear Anon, you have yearned long enough!

I hope you've found this explanation entertaining 💜

[hekate1308]

Do You Know A Way Out Of Here?

Prompt: Do you know a way out of here?

Fandom: Supernatural

Pairing: Destiel

Now, Dean is not one of those people who doesn’t know how to party. You just have to ask Sammy to make sure of that.

But this…

He didn’t work so hard to go to college to spend his evening with over a hundred drunk and rowdy frat boys, no matter what anyone says. He only came by because they kept pressuring him anyway and he’s hoping they’ll stop once they realise he’s not a good fit, and he knew better than to take any of his real friends with because by god, he’s not forcing Charlie or Garth or Benny to deal with this.

He wonders what would happen if he just loudly announced he’s bi, but that’s definitely not a good idea and Sam made him promise to come back alive.

Yes, better just hang out for a bit longer and then leave. Perhaps play a few games. Charlie is up till dawn when she can get away with it anyway, meaning every day.

By now, most of the frat boys have realized that, for all his stunning good looks and his charming demeanour, they and Dean don’t really anything in common. So, he’s mostly left to himself, finishing his beer. Seems like he’ll be able to slip away soon enough. For now, he decides to down the rest on the veranda where it’s quiet and dark and he doesn’t have to deal with any drunk idiots.

It turns out he’s right about all three of those things, even though he doesn’t end up alone.

He’s been enjoying the air for a few minutes, all but done with his drink when a voice behind him says “Do you know a way out of here?”

He will always deny that he jumped because while he might not be a frat boy, he’s not a scaredy cat, either.

Dean turns his head and finds the hot guy he’s seen around campus. Granted, he probably has a name and all that, but this is how Dean refers to him when talking to his friends – because – that’s what he is. Dark hair, blue eyes…

He swallows but manages to answer. “Well, seems to me like you already found it – you just came through the door, didn’t you?”

He looks at him and squints (alright that shouldn’t look as cute as it does), then tilts his head to study him some more. “I did” he then confirms.

“Look at you. Now all you have to do is put one foot in front of another” Dean jokes, trying to figure out how to make the guy do anything but that because… he has been trying to gather the courage to talk to him from the beginning, and now here they are. He’s not going to throw away the opportunity, although he is really aware that when it comes to guys, he’s about as slick as the Sahara desert after a dry summer.

“That is probably sound advice.”

A moment’s pause. Then the guy adds, “You didn’t seem to be having a good time…”

Dean, who was busy taking the last sip of his beer in order to appear smooth, of course starts coughing at that but how could he not? Hot guy just admitted that he’s been watching him… which should be creepy but Dean can’t really complain because he has been watching him around campus so they’re even.

“I –“ he finally replied once he’s calmed down. “What can I say? Lots of drunken people shouting isn’t exactly my idea of a good time.”

“Mine neither, but my cousin’s a member, so he forced me to attend.”

“Sorry to hear it.”

And then his night changes.

“Oh, right now, I don’t find myself minding too much…” he says, looking Dean straight in the eyes, and while he might occasionally have missed the obvious clues that a guy was flirting with him (Benny has never allowed him to forget when he first met Aaron) there can be no doubt about what is going on.

He wishes he still had some beer left, but instead takes a deep breath and answers, “Funny, I was just thinking the same…”

And he actually looks up at Dean through his lashes, dear Lord.

Dean clears his throat and decides to take a gamble. “since you asked, I actually know the way out of here… want to accompany me?”

The guy seems taken aback, but only for a moment, then he smiles ever so slightly as he answers, “Yes, thank you very much.”

As they walk down the street, Dean being more than glad to leave the party behind him, especially in this company, he realizes something and says, “Dean. Dean Winchester.”

“Castiel Novak.”

A name as unique as the one wearing it.

Dean has an idea. “Say, how about we get a late night snack?”

As he enthusiastically agrees, Dean has no idea what has just begun, but he knows he likes it.

[whoopsimbingewatching]

Supernatural Rewatch Season 1 Episode 12: Faith.

Thoughts While Watching:

- I like when we start an episode with the boys already on a case.

- Bro is Dean dead? What? This early?

- Okay no not dead. Yet.

- Oh the faith healer episode yes.

- Nice jab at Days Of Our Lives Jensen.

- "I'm going to die and you've to accept that." Funny quote giving the later Chuck arc.

- Ritta from Dexter!

- "I didn't pick you Dean, the Lord did" again funny with the overall story of this show.

- I know they probably didn't have the 15 seasons planned out. But the talk of Dean's purpose and the Lord's work is interesting in hindsight.

- "Someone is dead because of me" I love Dean's character. He has depth.

- I hate when shows have a different song than the original broadcast. Pretty sure Don't Fear The Reaper was in this episode.

- Poor Layla

- Classic Dean survivors guilt.

- Sam is a good brother calling Layla for Dean.

Favorite Quote:

"We did the right thing here didn't we?" - Dean

"Of course." - Sam

" Yeah well, doesn't feel like it." - Dean

Favorite Character This Episode:

I think Layla is my favorite character in this episode. I respect her faith and how strong she holds it no matter how bad it gets. Even not being a Faith person myself I can respect it

Overall:

A good episode about Dean's relationship with Death and the idea of God. 8/10

[bustyasianbeautiespod]

Episode 75 Transcript: Every Good Episode of Supernatural is Secretly a Menace to Society

[intro guitar music]

G: Hello! My name is Grey.

C: And my name is Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times...

C: And I, someone who only knows the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.

G: So, for today's episode, we will be discussing Season 4, Episode 15: "Death Takes a Holiday," written by Jeremy Carver, directed by Steve Boyum. We are back, baby! We're back.

C: Yeah, we're- we have returned. It's true. For three months, we weren't both Asian, and now, look at us! [G laughs] Both Asian again. It is nice to be back. I haven't looked at a man who was under 40 years old for so long. [G laughs]

G: No, you know what? When this episode started playing, I was like, giggling, twirling my hair.

C: I was like, "Holy shit, Sam's hot! Has he always been this hot?" [laughs]

G: No like, 'cause like, in one of the flashbacks, Sam has like, a very rosy cheeks, and I was like, "Good Lord! Sam Winchester, what happened to you?" [C: Yeah. Yeah.] He's so handsome. To all who don't know, we left BABPod for like, three months to do a Good Omens podcast [laughs], which was very fun, and with that show, I really did need to read the subtitles 'cause I couldn't understand their accents. And going back to the Supernatural is like, "Look! I can understand their accents. I don't even need to turn on the subtitles or anything." And so for a while, I just turned off the subtitles, and [laughing] I literally could not understand them. [C laughing] Like, I was lying to myself so severely. So I had to turn it back on again. Fun stuff! [C: Yeah.] I probably can understand their accent if Dean didn't speak like that [C: No, exactly!], but Dean does speak like that. So I cannot for the love of God understand anything.

C: This episode was fine. Like, I think I understand that it's probably on the- is it on the like, better half of Supernatural episodes?

G: I think it is. I think it is, yeah.

C: But like, I didn't feel particularly anything about it except for when Castiel was on screen! Then, it was the best thing that has ever happened to anyone.

G: You know what? 'Cause you watched this episode before me, and you were like, "Oh my god, Cas! Cas is here!" but like, I couldn't figure out, like, when in the episode. Also because I just completely misremembered this episode. I thought it was the Death episode.

C: I thought it was "Appointment in Samarra," yeah.

G: Well, no, I actually thought it was like, "Two Minutes to Midnight" or whatever that episode is where Death shows up. And I mean, probably you're thinking, "That's not true, because the fucking, you know, Famine still hasn't showed up and all that," so like, obviously, Death wouldn't have shown up yet, but for some reason I just associated this with the nice like, Death music cue, so when the episode started, I was like, "Oh, I don't think Death is gonna show up in this episode. Wait, where the fuck is Cas gonna show up?" So like, when Dean goes, "What the hell?" [C: Yeah!] And Cas goes, "Guess again," I was screaming, I was cheering, I was like, "He's here." It is so wonderful to see Cas again. Like, it is wonderful to see Sam again. It's a bit wonderful to see Dean again; honestly, I was very enthused by him this episode.

C: Really?

G: Yeah, unfortunately. For the audience-

C: He loved making three sexual assault jokes in a row, though. He definitely enjoyed doing that.

G: He definitely did. I did- like, when he did the Demi Moore joke, I was like, "He's back! He's here, on my screen, right now." But like, for real, though, I legitimately had so many moments throughout the three months where I would just sit down and like, think about Supernatural and be like, “I hauve Covid.” [C laughs] Like, it's crazy how much distance makes the heart grow fonder. I was like, thinking about these men and jeans and everything.

C: I wasn't, but it's nice to see them again.

G: November 5 happened while we were away, and so that was on my mind and my timeline. But also, like, I don't know, for some reason, like, I was thinking about Season 1 specifically, and how fond I was in Season 1 and everything.

C: Yeah? 'Cause it's probably bad.

G: No like, but every time I think of Season 1, I'm like, "What a wonderful time that was. It was such an amazing time watching Season 1 of Supernatural." And then, I think back to actually watching Season 1 of Supernatural, and it was literally not a good time.

C: What was the post about high school that you reference sometimes?

G: "I was so happy in high school. I mean, in the moment I wasn't. But in retrospect, I was." [C laughing] Like, that's how I feel about Season 1 of Supernatural.

C: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can only be fond of it because you don't have to do it again, I think.

G: Yeah, that's true.

C: Are you gonna ask what I thought was gonna happen this episode?

G: Oh, yeah! So what do you think was going to happen this episode, Crystal, before you knew it or seen it or everything?

C: Yeah. So I knew that there was an episode in Supernatural where Dean has to take over for Death and like, wear Death's ring or whatever for a day. And judging from the title of this episode, I thought that this was that episode. That turned out to not be the case. I also know that there is an episode where, like, Death eats pizza with them [G: Chicago-style.], and I thought that this would be the episode, and it wasn't. [laughs] Nothing that happened in this episode is something that I was aware of beforehand. Besides the "What the hell?" "Guess again."

G: You know what? Me too. That is also the exact same thoughts about this episode that I possessed prior to watching it. I thought it was literally every other episode that involves a reaper. [laughs] And then it wasn't. And also, Cas is there.

C: We haven't seen him since 4.10. No wonder we quit.

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G: We start off- Okay. "Then" sequence.

C: Wait, are we doing the "Then" sequence? Yeah. 'Cause it's been a while!

G: What are your thoughts on the "Then" sequence? Been a while for us. It's really been a while.

C: And for the listeners! My only thought about the event sequence is that it's incredibly funny that, in the voiceover, when Sam says, "I'm a better hunter-"

G: [laughing] Yeah!

C: "- stronger, smarter," on "smarter," he's fucking Cara. [both laughing] Like, okay!

G: So true. I support her. And he literally is thinking with his dick, probably.

C: Yeah, "If you were smart, you would have sex with someone during the 'man has sex with someone and starts murdering people' case." [G laughs] You're so right.

G: I can't believe that was last episode. I mean, I can, given the stuff that they say about it in this scene, but I also cannot. So we have the teaser portion. You know what? 'Cause we've been away from Supernatural, and we've been away from this kind of TV for a while, you know, like, this kind of show. I miss this kind of format on a TV show. It's so like- it means nothing. [laughs] But it means everything to me. [C: To you.] Yeah, we start the episode with two guys, like, leaving a bar, and they're talking about fantasy football, just, you know, fun banter. For them. For me, it means absolutely nothing. [C laughs] And then a guy like, shows up in front of them, asking for change. They say no, guy pulls out a gun. There's like, an employee at the back of the bar like, throwing trash [laughs] into the trash bin. He sees all this happening [laughs], and he decides that what needs to be done is that he's going to slam that trash bin cover so loud and so raw and startle the guy with the gun. [C: Yup.] I just- I cannot figure out the logic behind this action.

C: I think it was- it looked like the employee was just like, also startled. Like, it was like, not intentional.

G: He wasn't!

C: He's quite frozen.

G: Ah, okay. I understand. It's less "startled," I guess, and more like, his attention has turned to this and his hand, like, slips or something.

C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess that's what I meant.

G: Well, whatever. This startles the guy with the gun, and he pulls the trigger, shoots the guy, and, you know, there's like, a very long and arduous CPR scene [laughs] where one of the guys tries to CPR the other guy.

C: It's not even that arduous. Yeah, yeah. It's very lowkey.

G: But I- I don't think you should do that! [laughs] First of all, like, he got shot in the heart, [C laughing] and we like, we know this for a fact 'cause like, it says in this script that he got shot in the heart.

C: Yeah, let's shove more of that blood out, baby! Let's go!

G: [laughing] And this guy's solution to this very glaring problem is to put continuous pressure on his heart. Like, to pump his heart? What's wrong with you?

C: I mean, maybe- I guess I don't know that you're not supposed to do that. Like, are we spreading misinformation about emergency medical care? Okay, I'm gonna look up "CPR after being shot in the heart." [laughs]

G: CPR is for like, when there's no air going around, so like, the blood- the heart has stopped pumping. But I feel like if the heart is the issue, like, if your heart is like, damaged-

C: Yeah, it seems like you're not really supposed to use it for a gunshot victim unless they've stopped breathing, but even then, I think perhaps not if they've been shot in the heart.

G: [laughs] In the heart, yeah.

C: But I mean, maybe like, the friend didn't notice where he'd been shot? Like, it is just a panic response. It's not bleeding, so like, how would they know?

G: Yeah. First of all, it's not bleeding. Second of all, like, there is a bit of an inconsistency, because when the guy does show the bullet wound or whatever that was, it was in a different place. Like, it's like, a little bit like, in the stomachy area. So okay, fine. [C: Yeah.] This guy's like, "I'm alive!" I mean, the guy wakes up and is like, "Stop trying to kiss me, bro." [laughing] And then, yeah, he's like, "I'm alive. Amazing. Can you believe it? It's a miracle." He doesn't say, "It's a miracle." He says it later. But you know. Wow! Miracle. And then, you know, 'cause I know that, like, this is the splash screen for the season, but also, I forgot. So when it happened, I was like, "Good Lord! [laughs] Okay!" We're going at it this season.

C: The screaming?

G: Yeah, the scream, the flappy wings. It's the angel season!

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C: So we're at a diner, and Sam's on the phone with Bobby. apparently, Bobby's found them a case in Wyoming, where no one has died in this small town in the past week and a half, but like, in a weird way. People with like, terminal cancer are totally fine. Some other guy got shot, you know, point-blank in the heart, and he was fine. And the whole time Dean is just like, affecting like, he's not as invested in this or whatever as he normally would be.

G: First of all, I want to point out that later on in this episode, Cas reveals that Sam is not talking to Bobby, he's talking to Cas.

C: Well, I thought it was later- Ohh. At the very beginning? Okay. For some reason, I thought that Sam just called as Bobby for the [G: Later, yeah.] update about Revelations, about the seal, but you're right. I think when he said, like, "I recruited you guys," I think he means that [laughing] currently, right now, he's faking Bobby's voice on the phone.

G: That's such a funny thought to me!

C: It's hilarious.

G: Because It's not just like, voice. Like, there's a cadence to it. There's like, a way Bobby speaks.

C: Yeah, was he practicing in front of the mirror?

G: Like, how does it work? Is it like, he just gains, like, all of Bobby's speech patterns and all Bobby's intrinsic pop culture knowledge that he references when he speaks. How does that work?

C: Yeah, 'cause, okay, I have seen a clip where Anna like, uses John's boss's voice [G: Yes, yes, yes.] in "The Song Remains the Same." [G: The Season 5- yeah.] So I guess angels are just able to have other voices. I don't know. I think he just practices a bit. Or, I don't know. Maybe Cobby is real. Who knows?

G: Maybe Cobby is real.

C: It's cute that he called Sam. I mean, I know that Bobby is always the one who just calls Sam 'cause Sam's his work friend and Dean's his child [G: Yeah.], but yeah, maybe Sastiel's real also.

Sam says that, you know, people are calling it a miracle, but it's probably something nasty, like people making deals. Again, Dean's just not engaging with Sam, like, "Okay-"

G: [laughing] What is so funny- I didn't realize that Dean was not engaging, like- Like, I thought he wasn't engaging because he was focused on eating. So when Sam goes like, "Come on," and like, does he say, like, "Take that out" or something?

C: Like, "Get that to go," yeah.

G: Yeah yeah yeah. And so like, when he says that, Dean like, stops eating, like, he slows down his chewing and everything, and [laughing] then the sad piano music starts playing [C laughing], and I legitimately just thought that he was upset that Sam was asking him to take the food out.

C: Soo true!

G: It goes on for so long. The piano music goes on for so long, and Sam's just standing there for so long, and Dean is just not talking for so long, and so I spent so long also just thinking [laughs], "He's so upset about this fucking takeout situation. He doesn't want to put this thing on a styrofoam container."

C: Exactly. Exactly. It deserves the ceramic plate it's been on. Yeah. So that's the end of the great love story between Dean and this burger, whatever it was.

G: Yeah. Court her. Pound her. [both laughing]

C: Yeah. So true!

G: Amazing joke, yeah. It's court her, pound her.

C: Yeah, if we're doing #mentioned for BABPod nowadays, should we just read what that full post is and then reblog it?

G: [laughing] That's the entire post! The entire post is "call me a burger the way i court her. pound her."

C: So true!

So yeah, Sam's like, about to head out, but Dean is still sitting there and eating, and then he goes, "You sure you want me going with you?" and Sam's like, "Huh?" And he's like, "I don't want to be holding you back or nothing." And Sam says that he's told him a hundred times that "That was the siren talking, not me." 'Cause we leave off 4.14 with Sam being like, "So we're good?" and Dean being like, "Yeah, we're good," but apparently, in the last week, like, every single chance he gets, Dean's like, "Well, I guess that's just 'cause you're smarter and stronger than me, huh?" [G laughs] And Sam's had to be like, "No, I didn't mean it!" Hilarious.

G: No but like- I know we mentioned it last episode, I think, Dean's gripes towards Sam that episode could like, reasonably be thought of as like, the siren talking, but, like, Sam's gripes are so real, you know? Like, those are actual things he thought about.

C: Wait, I thought it was the other way around.

G: Is that- do we say that? I have forgotten.

C: No, Dean's gripes are, "I can't trust you anymore," like, "You've been keeping secrets and like, you don't feel like my brother properly anymore," right? Like, that's real. Sam's stuff was just like, "I'm a better hunter than you," [G: "I'm better than you!"] which we've seen no evidence of.

G: The thing is like, Dean thinking that Sam is lying to him is like, "That's true." Like, Sam is lying to him. But, like, Sam thinking that, like, Dean is incompetent or isn't as good of a hunter as him is like, that's not a quantifiable truth. For Sam, it's like, "Oh, Dean thinks I'm lying to him. Yeah! And I'll lie about it some more. I'll lie about not lying to him." And then for Dean, it's like, [fake-teary] "Sam thinks I'm a terrible hunter!" and like, no amount of anything can disprove or prove that. So like, "I'll just sit here and think about 'maybe I'm a terrible hunter.'"

C: Yeah, okay. I guess. Sure.

G: But also, keep that shit to yourself. [laughs]

C: Yeah, I don't- for him to still be stuck on that, like, does that mean that he suspects that it's true and it's like, digging into some kind of insecurity? Because I don't feel like we've seen any evidence of that.

G: That that's true?

C: That that's true, and that that's something that Dean is afraid of.

G: Huh. Did we ever see Dean be scared that he's not good enough?

C: For hunting? I don't think so. I don't think so.

G: For hunting specifically, yeah. I mean, there's a whole like, "You can't save everyone thing." [C: I guess.] But I feel like that's a different thing. That's a different thing.

C: They both couldn't save everyone, so, yeah. I don't know. I guess if they maybe pushed on like, how the uncle in "Family Remains" was with Dean and then got like, killed, or whatever a bit more, maybe I could see something coming out of that. But, you know, the family's totally fine that the uncle's dead at the end, so it doesn't feel like that's a thing. I guess what Sam's getting at there is like, "You're like, not willing to like, for example, let me train with Ruby" or things like that, like, "You want to stick to like, the safe hunting methods, and that's like, what's preventing you from being able to like, kill certain demons and stuff like that." Does Dean think that that might be true?

G: Yeah, I mean, it's not specifically a case thing. It's more like a overarching plot situation. I do agree with that. And I don't think Dean agrees with it in that he thinks it's a bad thing. It's more like, Dean knows that Sam thinks this, and it's like [C: Concerning?], "Well, that's horrible that you think that." Like, it's not an internal struggle for Dean, it's more like, [fake-teary] "And Sam's like, doing things again that I don't want him to do!" I mean, this episode really cements it that, like, everyone really thinks that Sam is like, fucking horrible for this.

C: Fucking evil, yeah.

G: 'Cause like, I feel like there's like, some deniability in the past episodes. Because, like,  the people saying that what Sam is doing is bad are like, the angels, and like, the angels aren't particularly portrayed as benevolent creatures, and like, Dean's being an asshole. And yeah, Ruby, is being terrible too, and Ruby's trying to convince him to do it. But, like, it's more ambiguous. Like, all sides, are kind of horrible to Sam. But like, having-

C: - Pamela waste her dying words on that? Yeah.

G: Dying words, and also, like, Pamela has always been seen as someone who has more insight on, like, stuff. Like, understands the occult better than most people. Like, they go to her to consult her, so like, she must be someone who knows her shit, and the fact that someone who like, knows her shit isn't involved with the angels, actually doesn't like, the angels, you know, still thinks that what Sam is doing is bad is like, that's the thing that cements it that like, "Oh, Supernatural as a show is like, trying to tell us that, like, we're supposed to think that this is a bad thing."

C: I feel like Supernatural already told us that because we're supposed to, like, consider Dean, like, a moral high ground a lot of the time.

G: Yeah, but I don't, so.

C: Yeah. But like, yeah, I guess this is like, "For, you know, the last remaining fans who aren't certain, here's our stance." So, right. So Dean gets all upset about this. Last episode, Dean was literally about to kill Sam with an axe while like, saying a line about, "Oh, tell me again how I hold you back," and Sam's not mad about that. Like, Dean, get over it! Sam's like, "Can we get past this?" And Dean thinks for a second and then goes, "Yeah, we're past it." And, I mean, I guess they are, 'cause it never comes up again.

G: Yeah. I mean, Supernatural always does this where like, they tried to connect it to the last episode, [C laughs] and then just don't follow through.

C: They just drop it, yeah.

G: Honestly, I support it. I feel like it will be tedious to keep bringing it up, too. Like, we can just take it as like, something simmering instead of something said, you know?

C: Yeah.

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G: We go to the house of the guy who like, got shot earlier, and [laughs] apparently, Sam and Dean has introduced themselves as bloggers, which is truly wonderful. [C: Yeah.] And Jim, the guy who got shot, is asking like, "Okay, so like, you guys, what's the name of your- you guys's blog?" And Sam is like, "Yeah, we're flooredbythelord.com."

C: [laughing] Iconic.

G: I mean, Dean obviously finds this so amusing that they're flooredbythelord.com. Sam starts interviewing the guy about the miracle that he experienced, and the guy's like, "Oh, bullet in my heart and everything, but it's still going." He says that, you know, "I wasn't a saint, wasn't father of the year, but when I got shot and nothing bad happened, I just knew the Lord was giving me a second chance." And this entire time, we're on Dean's face. The guy goes, "I had this feeling that angels were watching over me." Lot of things for Dean because that's the thing that Mary tells him, and also, angels literally are watching over him now, but not in a good way. So that's fun.

C: This is true. Yeah. I mean, he's trying to believe it's in a good way. But yeah.

G: Does Dean think of like, this as like, a benevolent second chance? Was there like, ever a time where Dean thought that?

C: Didn't he- in "Monster Movie" or something, didn't he say some shit to Jamie about how like, something bad happened and then he was given a second chance, and like, he's gonna use it to like, save people or like, he knows it means he's doing good or some shit?

G: Wasn't he like, "I'm gonna use it to fuck you raw" or something? [C laughing] Like, it wasn't like, a flirting method? I mean, he's probably being sincere, and we are supposed to think he's being sincere, despite the flirting and everything. [C: Yeah.] But I mean, it's just such an odd thing. Because, again, we've mentioned over and over again, Season 4, so full of it, like, Dean being like, "And I was put here on Earth again to save people" and then just an absolute fucking menace-

C: [laughing] Just goes around harassing women, yeah.

G: Yeah. [laughs] Is an absolute menace to everyone he's supposed to be saving, so. Yeah, I don't know.

C: Jim says a stupidass the line where he's like, "I wouldn't expect you guys to understand." And the only point is for the viewers to be like, "Oh, Jim, but little do you know, they are having angels watch over them, you silly little man!" [G laughs] but like, they literally introduce themselves as Christian bloggers. [G: No, exactly!] Like, obviously, you'd expect them to understand. It's just for the viewer to be like, "Oh-ho-ho-ho, Jim!" And well, you're annoying, Jeremy Carver. I'm annoyed by you.

G: They're literally the guys behind flooredbythelord.com! You would expect them to understand!

C: Exactly. If anyone would understand, it would be the flooredbythelord.com bloggers. [G laughs]

G: Sam is, you know, continuing the interview. "Did you go through a crossroad? Did you see someone with black eyes or red?" I mean, the black eyes question is always so fascinating to me because, like, just say- How would you word that to convey what you're trying to say, which is like, the entire eyes are black?

C: Just say their entire eyes are black.

G: What if they have beautiful, striking black eyes?

C: What if? Yeah, I don't know. I guess USAmericans just call it brown eyes, even if it's closer to black. Usually, I'd say that Dean's the one who like, is asking the more aggressive, off-putting questions.

G: Yeah, but they're trying to do a whole like, "Dean is taken by this guy's like, 'angels are watching over me'" thing.

C: Yeah yeah yeah. Their doing a thing about Dean believing in miracles is equally a thing about Sam not believing in miracles this episode, and that's fun enough, I think.

G: I think Sam's painted as the more grounded-in-reality person in this episode. I mean, I think back to "Houses of the Holy."

C: Of course.

G: In that episode, like, Dean, was the one who was like, grounded in reality, and Sam off in the "I'm trying to save people!" but I guess the difference there is in that one, people were dying, and this one is "people aren't dying." And like, yeah, maybe they're equally like, miracles. I don't know. Because I feel like this is the opposite of that episode.

C: Yeah, angels were supposedly inciting people to kill in "Houses of the Holy," and now it's people are like, not dying. Yeah.

G: And also like, the whole, you know, Sam is like, "We shouldn't stop the angel because the angel is doing something good by killing these people, just like, in, you know, early Christian martyrdom [laughs] situation."

C: Just like in Death Note.

G: Just like in St. Katherine. But- [laughs] those are such a funny things to say. "Just like in Death Note" and then "Just like in St. Katherine of Alexandria." So true, though! And here, Dean is like, "But shouldn't we stop people from dying? Like, isn't that our goal?" And yeah. I think it's interesting that for Sam, it's like, more focused on like, "Is it supernatural or not? And is that supernatural thing a good thing or not?" And for Dean it's like, "But like, are people dying?"

C: Which I think is not their usual MO, right? G: Yeah. I also don't think so. Yeah, which is why I like, went way back to Season 2 [laughs] to like, compare an episode to it. 'Cause, like, I don't think this is usually their go-to. Like, Dean is a lot more like, moralist, you know, in terms of supernatural blah-blah-blah.

C: Yeah. I mean, I guess for Sam, like, "Houses of the Holy," like, it didn't happen in a vacuum. Like, it probably did 'cause them to become a lot more jaded about this shit.

G: Yeah, like, it was the breaking point. Or the new status quo.

C: Yeah, he wanted to believe in miracles, and he wanted to believe that, like, an angel had chosen him specifically to carry out God's will, and then it turned out it was just like, a ghost of a priest that was like, manipulating people and thinking that he was saving their souls but probably like, condemning them to Hell forever for doing murders. At that, he was like, "Okay, well, I guess that like, angels like, aren't real or whatever the fuck? Who knows?" And then, like, two years later, it's like, "Oh, no, they're real. They just like, specifically, hate your ass." Yeah, I get like, after that, being like, "Okay, I don't really believe in miracles, and anything good must come with a catch."

So we cut to the motel, where they're both checking up on deaths in the town. The cancer survivor, he's totally fine. He was clinically dead, and now he's not. No sign of a deal.

G: Also, I want to bring up, laptop in this scene. And I did try to see the label. [laughs] I did try to see the logo. And there were no, like, you know Sam's girl emo stickers-

C: Yeah, Sam's emo girl- yeah.

G: - to cover the logo, but I still can't see it. Is that like, a Season 1 thing? Sam's girl emo stickers thing?

C: I think so. I feel like there was like, a skull or something at some point. Dean says that the last person who died in this town is this like, kid named Cole Griffith who died 10 days ago.

G: Fascinating that 10 days, and he was able to master the art of ghostery.

C: Yeah, he was bored, I guess.

G: Quick learner, that kid.

C: I'm sure he was a pleasure to have in class. Dean is willing to just sort of give the job up. Like, he's like, "Well, maybe it's like, a real miracle. There's no deals, and there's no skeevy faith healers." Sam's like, "Oh, well, maybe this is 'cause like, the local reaper isn't here right now." Sam suggests that they should try to contact Cole to ask if he's seen anything, and they go to the graveyard.

G: You haven't even mentioned!

C: What?

G: First of all, Dean says "The local reaper's on strike?" which is such a fascinating idea of like, supernatural creatures going on strike. Fun stuff!

C: I mean, who would they appeal to, though? Like, Death? Like the horseman?

G: I mean, who is doing their schedules? Like, what's the bureaucracy behind this?

C: No, yeah, exactly. It's like, this is a small town. Like, you're telling me they have to assign one reaper to this entire town that is like, tiny? Like, don't they have something better to do? What are they doing in their free time?

G: Yeah, I mean, they assign one reaper here, and then that reaper dies, and Tessa comes in. So like, someone is like, telling these reapers, "Okay, you're the one doing this thing."

C: Tessa might have just heard about this and come in.

G: Yeah, but they still need to communicate to each other that "Okay, Tessa's gonna be there, so you don't have to go."

C: Yeah. Yeah. The big ol' reaper discord, or whatever.

G: [laughs] Yeah. They have Discord drama on that thing.

C: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. They're blocking each other left and right.

G: Number 2, Sam goes like, "Let's talk to somebody who might," meaning the angels, and Dean says, "Last I checked Huggy Bear ain't available." He's talking about Cas in that thing!

C: Oh, right. Well, Sam doesn't mean the angels, but yeah.

G: And, I mean, the Huggy Bear is like, cute. And like, I was confused because I thought Huggy Bear was like, a nickname said somewhere else, but apparently, it's said here, and I doubt that they repeat this nickname, but whatevs.

C: They could repeat it. Uh, it's also said in 5.10.

G: 5.10. In what context?

C: Well, I don't know. I can check. [typing] Dean just calls Cas that on the phone [G: Ah!] while he's following Crowley to watch him gay kiss a guy, and then the fucking "Got him." zoom, I think probably.

G: [laughs] Wonderful, wonderful!

C: It's great, yeah.

G: Well, this is a thing that he calls Cas, then. Like, this is in his head as like, "a nickname that I call Cas."

C: Yeah. I mean, sorry, I'm just not really feeling it with Destiel. [laughs] But like, you go ahead.

G: I mean, this is- it's still not- I feel like in this seasons, it's still not the kind of Destiel that would appeal to you. I feel like there would be a time where it's a kind of Destiel that would appeal to you, but not now.

C: Yeah. I mean, we're not gonna rehash the "They're not even best friends!" argument here, so. [laughs]

G: No, but like, they are, though. [both laughing] See, we are already rehashing it.

C: I mean, I haven't seen it all, so maybe I'll change my mind. Is my diplomatic response to that.

G: Yeah. I will wear you down. We have five to six to seven or eight years left.

C: Yeah. Have I come back so different? Am I like, Came Back Wrong for the listeners right now? Was I really into Destiel when we last left off? I'm sorry.

G: You weren't. You were into Cas, and even when a Destiel thing was happening, you were very intent and clear that "I like this because of the Cas stuff, not necessarily because of the Destiel stuff."

C: Okay, good, good. [laughs] Alright.

G: I mean, even our episode where- I think it's titled "We are watching Destiel happen live," I was the one who was talking about Destiel, and you were like, "And Dean is also there."

C: "And then Cas like, looks down and blinks, and then looks to the side," [laughs] yeah.

G: From what we know of the Cas and Dean relationship to this point, what has happened between them? Let's do like, a recap. So they meet, the kitchen threat, and then we have the- the big one is the "Great Pumpkin" scene with the bench.

C: Yeah. Yeah. Cas reveals that he's been having doubts, and that he was praying that Dean would choose to save the town.

G: And then we have "Heaven and Hell."

C: Yeah, they go after Anna, which Dean is against.

G: How does that thing end?

C: Sam and Dean and Ruby came up with a plan to like, get the angels and the demons to come together, and then cancel each other out by like, fighting each other to the death or whatever the fuck so that Anna can get her grace back and then run off. One of the demons- Alastair-

G: Dean saves Cas!

C: Yeah, Dean, saves Cas from Alastair, even though I guess that wasn't part of the plan. Anna gets away. Uriel is angered but Cas holds him back with a brief touch to the shoulder or whatever and says that their business is concluded and then heads off.

G: Yeah. And then Dean cries about being in Hell while Sam looks on with no emotion whatsoever. [C laughing] Fascinating episode! Okay. Recap done. My question now is, do you think like, Dean thinks in any way fondly of Cas at this point?

C: I mean, I think he thinks of Cas as a volatile ally.

G: Yeah. There's like a line in this episode where he like, says "most angels." Most of them.

C: He's talking about Anna.

G: Oh, yeah!

C: He's met three angels. It's Anna, Uriel, and Cas. Uriel and Cas suck. That's 2 out of 3. That's most.

G: Damn. That's crazy.

C: Yeah, he doesn't like Cas.

G: Yeah, I completely forgot about Anna even if she showed her face in the beginning of this "Then" sequence. So, yeah, he doesn't like Cas. And I mean, later, like, I suppose he like, berates Cas for not showing up and everything, so.

C: Yeah, I mean, he views Cas as someone who should be helping him and isn't.

G: Yeah, I think he is aware at this point that Cas is someone that isn't as hardset on Heaven principles. I think of the "I don't know what's right or wrong here," right? Like, I feel like that's a pretty big confession that like, "I'm not particularly sure what we're doing."

C: Yeah. Yeah. But like, I don't know. I feel like, you know, him going after Anna has sort of eroded any like, trust Dean would have. It's like, "Okay, like, secretively, you feel this way, but like, it's not gonna cause you to act against or like, act for the human good or whatever, except in very small ways."

G: That's true. I mean, in a way, maybe that even makes it worse, like, "You seem to know better, and yet you do this anyway," you know. I mean, that's kind of- we'll get to it at the end of Season 4, but like, that's kind of the point of their last fight in Season 4, right? You know, Dean trying to convince Cas and everything, and Cas is like, "But I can't, because of the plan," and Dean's like, [dramatically] "We're done! Don't talk to me, we're done!" [laughs] It's so dramatic. I'm so excited for the last episode of the season, like, for fucking real. I've been thinking about it. I've been talking about it with Crystal and Crystal's been like, "Okay." [both laughing] I mean, it is okay.

C: I'll care when we get there. Maybe.

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G: We go to the cemetery, and they are digging up- actually, are they digging up, or are they doing a ouija board situation? What's going on?

C: They're trying to summon the kid in some way, I think.

G: Ahh, yeah. Did they even need to do this in the gravestone? Oh yeah! 'Cause they did this in, again, "Houses of the Holy," and they did do it like, in the gravestone or something, but like, the grave is inside the church like, mausoleum, so it's not a grave.

C: They had a similar confrontation.

G: Yeah, and they had a Spongebob cloth that they turned around. [laughs]

C: Yeah, and they said something racist about it.

G: Did they?

C: One of them says, like, "It doesn't get more ghetto than this or something."

G: Ohh, yeah.

C: And then we forgot about it when we were doing the racism points at the end so we gave it 0 racism points, even though it should have gotten a racism point for that.

G: Well. [both laugh] Terrible show, honestly.

C: Yeah. [laughing]

G: The thing about Supernatural is you will talk about your favorite episode ever, and then you remember that they mentioned Busty Asian Beauties in an extended bit in it, and it's like, "Oh my god." Like, for example, in 8.17, "Goodbye Stranger," there's an extended at the beginning of that thing-

C: Oh, where the Men of Letters had Voluptuous Asian Pretties or whatever the fuck.

G: Asian Lovelies, yeah. "Scoobynatural," Dean was a fucking creep in that one, and it's like, every single one, you have to be like, "This is a wonderful episode that I like, love so much."

C: "Yeah, except for the gunk."

G: "- Also, there's this absolutely horrific bit." The only episode that escapes this fully is, of course, "Dog Dean Afternoon." [both laughing] I'm still on that thing. I'm still on that episode.

C: Wait til we get there. Are you sure? You've watched it like, more recently than some other later episodes, so can you guarantee 0 points in all categories?

G: No, absolutely not. [C laughs] I absolutely cannot guarantee anything. I think there's a little bit of homophobia in it, even.

C: Hell yeah!

G: But you know what? Again, every fun episode is Supernatural is actually secretly a fucking menace to society.

C: Yeah.

G: They're there, trying to summon this guy, whatever. Dean suddenly, like, closes the journal, starts complaining, and he's like, "What a stupid fucking job we're doing." He complains that, as we said earlier, that like, when you're killing a ghost or a monster, anything, like it's a reasonable thing to do because, like, those creatures are killing people. But, I mean, they also kill creatures that were not killing people.

C: They do.

G: So, what's up with that, Dean? What's up with that, Dean? [C laughs] But he says, "If we fix this, people are gonna start dropping dead." Actually, I haven't thought about this. 'Cause Pamela was like, alive until the reaper shit gets, I don't know, whatever.

C: Yeah. Jim's young daughter is gonna find him bleeding out from a gunshot wounds on the floor of her kitchen.

G: That's crazy! And that cancer guy's just gonna drop dead.

C: Yeah.

G: Oh, no.

C: Yeah. That's gonna be weird for the town.

G: I mean, it's gonna be weird for the town, number one, but like, it must be miserable to be  the wife of that guy and like, "And, and now my husband's like, completely fine. We're gonna live together until we're 80 years old." And then, like, the next day, he's dead, and she's like, "He was already supposed to be dead, and you gave me this couple of days of hope, and now it's over, and it's more miserable, maybe."

C: Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have a lot of weird feelings about religion, I think, given that they all seem to think that God gave them a second chance. But it was like, "God gave them a trial run and they failed" is probably how some people are gonna think of it.

G: Sam goes, "I don't want them to die either. But, you know, natural order. There's a natural order." And Dean is like, in disbelief, and it's like, "You don't see the irony in that? Like, you and me, we're very unnatural order-"

C: Yeah, perhaps even supernatural.

G: "- 'cause all we do is ditch death." And Sam's like, "Yeah, but we're so special!" [both laugh] "The normal rules don't apply to us, Dean."

C: Yeah. I mean, it turns out they're right. Like, they are God's specialest little princesses.

G: I mean, they are very special. Yeah. Dean is unconvinced. He's saying, "We're no different than anybody." And Sam's like- Sam looks at him in a bit of disbelief, and there's like, a little pause in the conversation, and then he goes, "I'm infected with demon blood!" and then, like, scoffs a little bit, and then he goes, "You've been to Hell!" Sam is so funny sometimes. Sam is like, he's an absolute fucking killjoy. He's so unfunny. [C laughs] But also, he's funny sometimes, and that's what's important.

C: Yeah.

G: Do you think people think I'm like, being mean when I say that Sam's a killjoy? He is, though.

C: No. I hear people say a lot worse things about Sam.

G: No, but like, I need everyone to know that I say these things fondly. Like, I love that Sam is a bit unfunny. A lot unfunny, even. I love that he don't give a shit about being funny. That's important to me. I mean, I complained a lot in Season 1 that, like, Dean is like, the funny, goofy brother, and Sam is the serious, brooding brother, but like, as the seasons progress, Dean remains the goofy brother, and Sam has lessened on the brooding section. So now he's just unfunny. [laughs] And I support that. Like, I genuinely love that. I mean, I was annoyed with the brooding stuff, 'cause I just don't like that as a character trait, but, like, now, he's not brooding. He's just annoyed at everything, and that's important to me. We need more guys who are annoyed at everything.

C: What is actually wrong with disrupting the natural order?

G: Absolutely nothing.

C: Yeah, they have to invent the seals thing so that, like, it actually makes sense that they're trying to like, stop this from happening or whatever

G: I mean, you can claim that modern medicine is disrupting the natural order. Dialysis is disrupting the natural order. A pacemaker is disrupting the natural order. Organ transplant.

C: You could also argue that the natural order includes, like, monsters killing humans.

G: Yeah. I mean, they're naturally there.

C: Yeah, they really are. But they were gonna keep doing it even without the like, seals reveal, right? Like, they were still summoning the kid. I mean, I guess Sam's a Bible reader, so he would also think that to everything, there is a season. I mean, Dean has, in the past, been very pro "natural order," I think, so I guess that would be his reasoning, too.

G: I mean, the real issue here is that they don't even know about the reaper situation. I don't know. I feel like the Sam- the Samhain (sah-wen) one- I'm gonna start pronouncing that correctly and not the Supernatural way. [C laughs] That episode, it's- like, they knew, right, that it was a seal, but they still wanted to save the town. I don't know. I feel like that kind of dilemma is good because it's like, they're trying to do both. Here, it's like, Dean is right. Like, okay, people are not dying. So what? What dilemma are they trying to present here? Like, what's Jeremy Carver trying to say?

C: I mean, it's not exactly the same thing, but like, with Cole, it's like, "You should go away because, like, people will never get over it until you're dead." Like, is the idea with the other people-

G: Yeah. Until you're gone.

C: Yeah, until you're gone.

G: Yeah, but those people are not dead. They're alive.

C: But I guess it's like, a reaper is always gonna come in, so like, it's the false hope thing. Like, Tessa came in, and she was going to kill all of them as well, so it's not like letting things keep going would mean that they all get to live forever, no consequences.

G: I mean, that's also the same again, about organ transplants. [laughs] That's the same about a pacemaker. You're still gonna die, but like, you still do it.

C: Yeah. I mean, I feel that's different from like, miraculously not dying and then like, spontaneously dropping dead. Actually, it is pretty similar.

G: I mean, in this episode, I can assume, like, Sam has this kind of perspective, like, "What makes life worth living is the fact that it's going to end!"

C: Really.

G: I mean, yeah. I mean, I don't think so. But like, I think that's the idea that is being peddled to us right now. I don't think Sam believes it. I don't think Dean believes it. But it's an idea being presented to us by the show, I feel. I may be completely off point.

C: But maybe "There's a natural order to things" is more like, descriptive. Like, "There's gonna be a new reaper to come in to fill the void. There's gonna be like, blah blah blah blah blah. Like, that's just how it is. So if we do anything to try to stop it, it'll just cause complications."

G: They're not trying to stop it. Like, them trying to continue it is the doing.

C: No, yeah, sorry, I mean trying to stop it as in like, letting it be, like, would just 'cause more disruptions and more issues down the line.

G: Yeah. I mean, I still don't understand why they are saying what they're saying and specifically, like, why the person who is saying it is saying it.

C: I don't know. 'Cause Dean's thing this episode is also like, he's like, grateful that Heaven gave him a second chance, but like, he also wishes that he just died in 2.01 with Tessa, but like, I don't- I guess it's fine to have conflicting ideas held in your mind. A lot of people do that. [G: Of course.] So I guess that's that's Dean's thing. The interaction of those ideas.

G: I also find it fascinating that, like, Sam, who has vehemently tried to be normal, like, all of Supernatural, basically, is just out here, going like, "Yeah, I'm infected with demon blood. I'm pretty fucking fucked up in that way. Very unnatural of me."

C: I mean, I don't- Sam has tried to be- I feel like he's stopped trying to be normal for a while already.

G: Yeah. But this is like, a very, you know, vocal, very verbal confirmation that he don't-

C: I remember 3.15 or whatever, he was like, "Dean, you should just go around stealing organs from people to become immortal forever." Like- [laughs]

G: Slay. Hell yeah!

C: He seems- he has been fine with going against the natural order and not being normal for a while. And like, I do wonder- if I go back, I wonder if like, that's a change that starts after Azazel shows him what happened in his crib the night Mary died- [G: Huh. Yeah.] - or, if like, it's different. 'Cause, like, Sam, does seem to believe strongly that the fact that he's infected with demon blood means he really can never be normal 'cause it's like, something biological, and he like, believes in that shit or whatever, right? So like, I wonder if starting from the end of Season 2, that's when he gave up on being normal.

G: Yeah. Go, Sam.

C: Go, Sam!

G: Or maybe don't. I'm not actually sure [laughs] what my stances are this episode. But- and Sam is like [laughs], "I know you think of yourself as the Joe the plumber, Dean, but you're not. And I'm not. So the sooner you accept that, the better off you're gonna be." Big words.

C: I guess, in the past, all their stuff about how- like, they've always considered the other one the exception in terms of, you know, like, what happened with Sam and Dean in 3.15, and like, in "Croatoan" when Dean was like, "Oh, yeah, I totally shot this teenager's parents as soon as they got infected, but, like, Sam got infected? Don't you dare touch him," etc etc, so like, I guess this is just extending it to like, "And also we should think that about ourselves."

G: Yeah, I suppose.

C: But also, with the other person it's like- it's a selfishness thing. It is like a "You're my brother, and therefore, the rules about killing monsters indiscriminately don't apply to you." But like, I guess-

G: Yeah, it's not specifically, like, "Dean fundamentally as a person." It's just "Dean, my brother." And you know, same goes with Sam.

C: Yeah. Yeah. But I guess Sam is trying to move this into the realm as like, "We fundamentally as people are special, and you need to deal with that."

G: "Matter in the grand scheme of things." Yeah.

C: What makes that thought useful for Sam's emotional well-being or whatever? I guess it's just to justify, like, the demon blood shit, mostly.

G: Yeah. "'Cause I'm the only one who can do it, so I need to," stuff like that.

C: Yeah. And also, like, "I might be against someone else doing this, but I'm special, and because of like, my biology and being infected with demon blood already, I'm like, someone who can do this and be okay and have good intentions and blah blah."

G: And their conversation gets interrupted by a man who comes in and just starts, you know, berating them on what the hell they're doing. And there's this bit where, you know, the guy's like, "What the hell is this?" and Dean's like, "It's not what it looks like," and the man goes, "Oh, really? 'Cause it looks like devil worship to me!" And Dean's like, "What?! Noo! It's not devil worship, it's- uh-" and then he looks at Sam and like, looks back at the guy, and he's like, "I don't have a good answer," and it's pretty funny. It's pretty funny.

C: I mean, I'd just say, like, "We're friends of the deceased, and we're just holding a wake for him. Oh, is that a pentagram? No, it's not. That's just a religious thing. You don't get it."

G: The older they get, the less it will work, but, like, you know, in Season 1, when they were like, "We're in a frat, and this is our initiation!"

C: Yeah, "This is a dare."

G: But yeah, they say that they're going now, but the guy goes, "You're not going anywhere," and then a menacing, you know, voice, and his eyes like, roll back in his head to reveal the white, which is a very wonderful effect. Did he do that before?

C: I don't remember. I think they do it too much this episode, though.

G: Who has the white eyes? With Li-

C: Lilith.

G: It's Lilith, right? Yeah, it's just Lilith.

C: Yeah, I don't know what that means about his position in Hell.

G: Yeah. Good effect, though. Bit overused, as you said, but it's pretty nice.

C: Yeah, like, later, it's like, "I know that that's Alastair. You don't need to do that for me again."

G: I mean, what's fascinating is like, you know, every Alastair prior is like, a normal guy who's like, an accountant, but like, a little bit more menacing. And then we get the Alastair later and the Alastair next episode.

C: Oh, yeah. He's great.

G: And he is pussy cunt slay. Like, that man is acting. He's acting. And it's amazing. It's amazing to watch. Like, even in this episode, it's like, "Good lord! That guy's putting on a voice! [C: Sure is.] And it's an amazing voice, even." Alastair is here, and Dean recognizes him. Does Sam know yet that Alastair is the guy? I kind of missed that situation.

C: Who trained Dean to torture in Hell? I don't think so? Okay, well, Dean reveals the Hell torture at the end of 4.10. Sam overheard Alastair telling Dean that he had promise in Hell and then Dean says that he tortured people, but I mean, it's not confirmed that Alastair was the one who was doing the torturing or Dean's torturing mentor at all. It's just like, he was aware of Dean, I guess.

G: Yeah, I guess we also learn it next episode, not here, necessarily.

C: Yeah, I think it's heavily implied, though. I think Sam could have come to that conclusion.

G: I don't know if I would, though, if I didn't know that prior [C: That's true.], but I believe you. And, you know, Dean's like, "I thought you died," and Alastair's like, "Nope. Not me." I mean, at this point, the only thing that can kill a demon is the Colt and the knife, right?

C: Yeah.

G: Do they get more? It's still just the Colt and the knife in the future.

C: I'm pretty sure, yeah.

G: That's crazy. 'Cause like, there are many angel blades. Every angel has an angel blade. You can theoretically acquire many angel blades.

C: Yeah, do they try making another knife or making another Colt?

G: They may new bullets for the Colt, I believe. Supernatural really is a show about [both] what if we get a better gun. [both laugh] "Let's get a God-killing gun this time." And they literally did! They fucking got that God-killing gun. But like, they only have that one demon blade, and it's just Sam's, and they make a point of making it just Sam's. Like, it's very rarely used by Dean in future seasons. Fun stuff! You know, everything you love will come back to you tenfold or whatever [laughs], and, you know, Sam loved that fucking demon pussy.

C: What is that from?

G: My head. It came from my head.

C: Okay. [G laughs]

G: No, yeah. Sam is getting that demon blade tenfold.

C: Yeah, yeah. Getting it raw and hard. And that's what Alastair asks. "Have you been getting that demon blade raw and hard?" Except misogynistically.

G: Alastair flicks Dean, and Dean hits his head on a gravestone, and then, like, I don't know, falls unconscious. Alastair turns to Sam and like, tries to flick him, too, it doesn't work, and he goes, "Oh, you're stronger, Sam. You've been soloflexing with your little slut?" Ugh.

C: Yeah. And, you know, there's that classic Supernatural misogyny. For a few minutes, I'd forgotten.

G: With the demons, I understand them being misogynistic in that like, they existed on Earth and they were people before, so they were already exposed to misogyny.

C: No, exactly. It's when Uriel does it that I'm like, "What the fuck is up?"

G: When the angels do it, it's like, "The fuck is-" yeah. [both laugh] "You haven't been here enough to figure that out." Sam succeeds and, like, pins Alastair to a tree.

C: Yeah, far away.

G: By head. [laughs] Not "by head," by- well, maybe by head, who knows? But like, by psychic powers, you know, extracts the demon out of him and everything. Fun stuff!

C: Yeah. I wish that there had been more notice drawn to this episode the fact that both of the times that Sam exorcises a demon during this episode, he doesn't check on the vessels afterwards, and we're to presume that they're dead. I mean, Alastair's vessel is probably dead from Sam, like, slamming him across the graveyard.

G: No, because sincerely what I thought happened was like, the vessel got stabbed to a branch 'cause there's like, a sound effect.

C: No, yeah, I think that did happen. If one of the points of this episode is like, "Sam, you think you have good intentions with this demon blood shit, but, like, you don't," then I think that- I feel like the strongest argument for Sam continuing training with Ruby is that he is able to get the demons out without killing the vessels the way that the knife or the Colt does. If they like, put a little more focus on the fact that, like, this is no longer 4.04 where afterwards, he rushes over and checks if they're okay and then gets them to the hospital, like, it would like help drive home the point that, like, he's just doing this because he likes the rush of it or the power or whatever, if that's what they're going for, but like, I think that just 'cause the writers don't care about vessels, they don't think about using that path to like, help convince us, and I feel like that would have like, made Pamela's last words make a lot more sense to me.

G: Yeah.

C: Oh, well. Sam killed that guy.

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C: So we cut to the motel, and, you know, this is the most important scene in the entire episode besides the one with Cas in it, where, you know, Dean's recovering, Sam asks if he wants some aspirin, and Dean says, "No thanks, House." Soo true.

G: Yas!

C: Soo true. Dean asks Sam what happened, and Sam, you know, lies to his face and says that Alastair tried to fling him, it didn't work, Alastair ran off, and he's like, "Oh, I have no idea why Alastair wasn't able to throw me. Huh?" And, you know, Dean's like, "Okay, like, if you're gonna keep your little secrets, I can't really stop you, but like, I'm not stupid." And Sam just continues to lie because he is so incredibly funny. Sam says that Bobby called- well, Bobby in quotes, because it was Cas again. [both laugh] God, that's so funny. I love that, like, Cas like, sent them on this case and then he's like, hanging around, watching, right? And it's like, "These idiots still haven't figured out that it's the fucking seal. I'm gonna have to call them again." [G laughing] So there's apparently a verse from an obscure version of Revelation that's "And he bloodied death under the newborn sky, sweet to taste, but bitter when once devoured." It should've been like "twice devoured" or something, right?

G: Yeah.

C: The reveal that you need to kill two reapers, like, came out of fucking nowhere, and it was just to like, give them some more time or whatever to like, figure out the chandelier-throwing thing or whatever. You know what I mean? There should have been something so that it wasn't so annoying that that came out of nowhere.

G: Yeah, and it's just to have like, Tessa around, honestly. I mean, it could have been like, Tessa immediately who was captured, but like, it wouldn't give Dean and Tessa talking time, which is, I guess, a big point in this episode.

C: I guess. I wish that they never talked ever and that Dean died in 2.01, just like he does, but you know. Yeah, if you kill a reaper under the solstice moon, which is tomorrow night, then a seal breaks.

G: "Tomorrow night, by the way." [C laughs] This is one of the- you know that video.

C: The caspig420 line deliveries video, yes. Gay as hell way to deliver that. Sam says that he wishes the angels were here 'cause they need their help, but Dean's like, "Nah, not gonna happen." Dean suggests that they become ghosts so they can communicate with the reaper.

G: It is so funny. I mean, Dean asks here, like, "How do you even kill a reaper?" And later, we find out that it's a scythe. Is that how you pronounce that?

C: Yeah, from like, death itself, yeah.

G: Yeah. And Supernatural really is about a hyper-specific weapon for a hyper-specific supernatural creature, and it will always be so funny to me.

C: It will.

G: What if they literally had reaper-killing bullets? Like, that would be fucking hilarious.

C: Yeah. We cut to later, and they're taking Pamela inside the motel room, and they have the most annoying conversation in the world! Like, they got her, and they drove her here. Like, you're telling me during all of those hours, they stayed completely silent, and then as soon as they get back to the motel, it's like, "I'm gonna deliver exposition in the most obvious way ever with like, bad acting, bad directing, bad writing, bad everything"?

G: Hell yeah!

C: Like, just have them have this conversation on the car. Like, I'd be way more okay with it. But it's like, you guys have been hanging out for hours, and then as soon as this door closes, it's like, "I can't even begin to tell you how crazy you are! You wanna do this, and then also do this? No way, you guys! And you also want to do these other details regarding your plan that will help the viewer know what's up?"

G: Are you sure they drove her here?

C: I mean, she couldn't have driven herself.

G: Maybe she got an Uber in 2009.

C: [laughs] Do they have those?

G: I mean, it's just I cannot imagine this conversation if that's the case.

C: [laughing] It's because the writing is bad. It's due to how the writing's bad.

G: Sam says, like, "Well, you're a sight for sore eyes," and that's something you probably say, for, like, someone who just shows up.

C: But like, how did she get here, then?

G: She teleported. She got teleported by Cas.

C: So true. But I feel like she would have- I feel like they were with each other for a while before this and that they just didn't think about it. Or maybe they weren't thinking about it, and they were like, "Oh, yeah, she totally drove herself here" without thinking about it, so who knows? Maybe that was the writing error made. Either way, the acting is still unbearable, even if this is the first conversation they've had.

G: I mean, it's fine. I didn't find it unbearable.

C: I find it unbearable. It's bad. They have a whole torturedass conversation. Sam calls her a "sight for sore eyes," and Pamela's like, "Well, that's offensive. What do you say to deaf people?"

G: We do know what Sam says to deaf people.

C: Yeah. It's "Fuck you."

G: [laughs] He signs "fuck you" to them immediately. First meeting. Go, Sam.

C: Yeah. And this is the continuation of the joke format in, like, "Everybody Loves a Clown" or whatever where it's like, you make a comment that seems maybe related to someone's disability, and then they're like "[disgruntled sounds]" about it, and it's, I don't know. It's just written by writers who I dislike. Dean wanted them to astral project or whatever. And yeah, Pamela says that "Oh my god, you're crazy! I don't wanna do this." Like, you came here.

G: "You guys are the crazy brothers." [laughs]

C: Yeah, no, but like- I guess what's also tortured about this is just that she spent time to get here, whether the writers think she could have gotten here by herself or if, like, they drove her. Like, you're telling me that she has only brought up the objections now? Like, were Sam and Dean just like, "You have to get over here, and we're not gonna tell you for what until like, we're walking up the stairs to our motel room," and she was like, "That's fine with me!" They would have had this conversation, if not during the drive, on the phone when they like, asked her to come over. Whatever. Who give a shit? She's like, "You guys don't know what you're doing, and I'm sick of being hauled back into your angel-demon Soc-Greaser crap." You came here! Whatever. [G laughs] Outsiders by S.E. Hinton reference alert. Yeah, we have another moment where, you know, Dean's like, "Oh, I also wish that I was relaxing and watching Judge Judy," and she's like, "Great. More blind jokes?" and he's like, "You know what I mean." Whatever. Whatever, Jeremy Carver. He says, "We need your help," and apparently this works.

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G: So they set things up, and Pamela is sitting on this chair in front of the beds, makes Sam and Dean like, lie down. This is so funny to me [laughs] because- so Sam and Dean are lying on the beds, and Dean is lying straight, like, vertically, and then Sam, who maybe perhaps is like, too long for the bed, [C laughs] lies diagonally. [C: Slay.] It's so wonderful! That guy is so tall it's unreal. And Pamela, like, does a little chant, and it's showtime! Dean sits up, and the room has changed color, and Dean goes like, "Well, nothing like shooting blanks. What's plan B?" [laughs] Why does he speak like this? But okay, go Dean. Pamela doesn't respond to this at all, and Dean looks at Sam, who is still unconscious in the bed, but then he turns over, and Sam's there! And he looks over his shoulder to the bed, and he's there, and he goes, "Oh, I'm so feeling up Demi Moore."

C: Ding.

G: And like, I physically recoiled. I recoiled.

C: Yeah. Remember in "Wishful Thinking" when like, this teenager wished that he was invisible so that he could like, spy on women in the showers?

G: Yeah.

C: And like, they treat that guy with like, so much derision, as like, they should. And like, they literally run over him in their car and everything just to like, show how that guy's like, gross and bad and you shouldn't like him. And then, like, Dean does the exact same thing. He later suggests that they go to Victoria's Secret and like, peep into those changing rooms top. And it's like, okay, so like, what- What are your policies? [both laugh] Like, what- Is it fine that- Why is it fine for Dean to do it? Like, is it just because- I don't know. It's like, either, like, they think that because Dean is like, hot, like, there's just inherent consent in any interaction that's sexual that he has with a woman because, like, everyone would like, want that already. Or like, it's like, "Next to Dean, women aren't people, but like, next to this guy who's like, less attractive and not a main character, women can be people because they're on like, similar levels"? Like, what is the reasoning here?

G: Yeah, I mean, I think maybe a part of it is like, "Oh, Dean's just saying things. He's not actually-" but, like, we've seen Dean- We know that he's actually, you know. [C laughs] And also the fact that, like, if somebody makes these jokes in real life, and it's like, "Oh, yeah, they are just jokes," but like, the fact that these are the first things to come to your head, like, I'd feel like, "Okay, let's not meet each other ever again," you know?

C: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

G: And multiple times, too. Multiple times.

C: Mm-hm. Mm-hm.

G: We learn here, too, that Pamela needs to like, whisper an incantation in their ear to bring them back, and she, like, leans down and whispers, "You have got a great ass" to Sam.

C: Yeah. Sam's delighted by this. I think- yeah. Some of Pamela's shit is quite bad, like, I think she does like, sexually assault them at times. I feel like this one was was okay. I didn't feel automatically disgusted by it, at least.

So you know, they're outside, being ghosts or whatever the fuck. Someone runs through Sam, and then Dean has fun by like, sticking his arm into Sam's chest and all that shit. So apparently it's hours later now, and they haven't found anything, and this is when Dean suggests that they go to Victoria's Secret and get their peep on! Yayyy. But luckily, they're interrupted by a dead twelve-year-old in the window. [G laughs] It's Cole.

G: Is the kid literally twelve?

C: Yeah, the gravestone has the years.

G: That's a massive twelve-year-old? But also, poor guy. Poor kid.

C: I have no clue what ages kids are, which we've established already. I thought he was ten, so.

G: Adam- the Them were eleven. [laughing] You thought this kid was ten?

C: Yeah, I mean kids in Supernatural look older than they are already, like, that kid with the like, giant teddy bear or whatever, I feel like she was supposed to be younger than she looked.

G: What did you think she looked like?

C: I don't remember. I just feel like she was played like she was 6.

G: She's definitely like, 7 or something.

C: Like, played as 7, or the actress?

G: Played as and looks like.

C: Huh. I think all kids are 10 unless they are like, 6. [G laughs] I guess they can also be 13. Those are the three ages a kid can be. They noticed the kid, and they're like, "Oh, shit. That's Cole Griffith."

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G: We go to the inside of this kid's room, and his mom is like, moving around like, calling him like, "Hi, Cole, it's mom. Your dad thinks I'm crazy. I swear you're here. Are you still with me?" A soccer ball or something, like, bounces around and like, throws itself across the room, and the mom's like, "Oh my god. You're still here." And as she leaves, Sam and Dean enter as ghosts, so they don't have to do the whole, "Hi! We're Sam and Dean, bloggers from flooredbythelord.com," but yeah. They see Cole, and he's there. They do the whole reveal that like, "We're also spirits. Let's talk!" They go downstairs, and in this entire scene, the mom is just in the foreground, like, drinking or whatever.

C: Yeah. They don't do a really good job with her character this episode.

G: Oh, they really don't.

C: 'Cause Cole's whole motivation is supposed to be that he wants to stay here so he can be with his family and like, first of all, they keep saying his "family." We don't see anybody else. Supposedly, there's a dad, because, like, the mom mentions a dad, but like, we don't see him. It is just like, this woman who is just like- I don't know. They just styled her to look like the most depressed person ever, and also, like- I don't know first. She's got that, like, famine look about her as in like, I don't know. It's like she was transported from a historical documentary about the Irish Potato Famine or whatever. She's just really there to look incredibly sad. I feel like if they had a scene where they interviewed her before they became ghosts where like, she actually talked about some memories with Cole or something like that that, would have helped, but like, she just has, like, the most generic, horror mourning mom dialogue ever. And then she's just like, drinking and looking at photos of him. I don't know. It just doesn't create a very strong basis for the Cole thread of this episode.

G: I mean, the fact that this- when the whole like, "Oh, but the people are gonna die again!" I fully did not comprehend, for most of this, that the people who were "saved," quote-unquote, are going to die, it's like, that is also an aspect that you could have leaned on. That like, this is not only just going to kill people in the future, it's like, going to kill people who are already saved. And, you know, it's that-

C: I mean, I think that is implied. Like, Dean says, "These are good people, and they're gonna die," [G: No, of course it's implied-] and I think he's thinking about how that dad is trying to-

G: - change, yeah.

C: But you're right. If we had like a-

G: There's no emotion to these people.

C: - little montage at the end, of like, that guy's daughter finding him on the floor, and, like, the cancer survivor, whatever whatever, it would have helped with whatever they were going for.

G: And like, I feel like the passing through the veil, we already did that in that one episode that I actually quite liked.

C: "Roadkill"?

G: Yeah. And this scene- you know what? This scene fucking terrified me. 'Cause apparently, this kid died because of cold air-induced asthma. [laughs] Yeah.

C: Oh, yeah, I understand why that would scare you.

G: Terrifying. I mean, not for me. It runs in the family. Asthma runs in the family, so like, good lord! People can just die from that?

C: It's like- is it ever cold where you are, though?

G: I mean, one time it was 23 degrees, and I was complaining to my British friend that-

C: 23 degrees Celsius, for the audience.

G: - like, "Oh my god, it's so cold!" She was like, "What's the temperature?" and I was like, "It's 23 degrees, but like, it's windy." And she was like, "You're unfucking real."

C: That's 73 degrees Fahrenheit, for the audience-

G: "- It's literally 9 degrees where I am now." [laughs]

C: - just to get an understanding of this.

G: But it really was chilly! [both laugh]

C: Your experiences are valid. To you.

G: Yeah, this kid dies 'cause of an asthma attack, and then he just goes, "Yeah, it happened so fast. And then I was just there, looking down at my body." Scary. Terrifying.

C: Yeah. I think this actor is decent at playing a kid who we are supposed to like.

G: Yeah, this actor's decent at playing a kid who's 14 years old, I think. [C laughs] And he says that "There was this creepy old guy in a black suit, and he wanted me to go with him," and I was like, "Holy shit! Is this Death?" It's literally not, though.

C: Yeah, it's some other reaper who looks sorta like Death.

G: Some other rando. Yeah. What's funny is they don't even, like, have him be awake for his scenes. Like, when he gets hauled up to be killed, he's just unconscious. But when Tessa gets hauled up to be killed, like, she's conscious, which is so funny to me. He says, "I didn't want to go," but, you know, "I didn't. He didn't take me." Sam asked, "How did you get rid of him?" And he said, "I didn't. The black smoke did." And this entire thing was treated like such a fucking reveal or whatever, but I feel like we already knew. Did we already know? I feel like we already did know.

C: Yeah, they were talking about, like, "Maybe demons can kill reapers," blah blah balh.

G: But you know, Cole was like, "They took him. They left me alone." He says, "I don't know where the smoke went, but I know where it is." And then suddenly, lights start flickering, blah blah blah. Cole starts hiding after saying like, "They're back." And then suddenly, beside him, somebody appears, and it's Tessa. Tessa still recognizes Dean. She like, says that he's "the one that got away."

C: Later, yeah.

G: Which is pretty fun. [C makes annoyed sound] I mean, they have like, a lot of- like, a, lot of their conversation later is like, you can isolate it to be romantic, but literally, it's about Tessa wanting Dean to be dead, [C laughs] and Dean wanting Dean to be dead, which is pretty funny! [laughs]

C: Yeah. And it's also about me wanting Dean to be dead, [G laughs] but they cut that out of the episode because it was taking too long.

G: Yeah, three for three, baby!

C: Yeah. She's in like, a regular person outfit. [laughs] I don't know how to explain it. It's just like, a shirt and pants and jacket or whatever, right? But, you know, later they just have to get that white nightgown on her. [laughs] You know, she's surprised that Dean doesn't remember her, and Dean's like, "If I had a nickel for every time I heard a girl say that," [annoyed sounds]. And then, like, [groans]. And then Tessa kisses him, and that's like, to transfer the memories, and I hate it so much.

G: Literally, why?

C: I hope we all die. There's no reason. It's just like, "She is played by an actress who is attractive. Let's do this." Like, okay, well, I think everything's bad forever. Memories are back. Tessa says that Tessa is "one of her names," which is fun. I want to know more about her! But they don't really treat her like a character. She has no internal consistency at all this episode. Dean tells Sam that this is the reaper that came after him in 2.01, and then Tessa's like, "Okay, well, now, I'm gonna leave to kill this kid." So why did she give Dean's memories back?

G: I mean, she knows what's going on with their life, so like, she knows that all he's gonna do is like, prevent her from doing her job, which at this point, is her main priority, so like, I don't know. I mean, she is probably still caught up in the whole TOTGA, as we say.

C: The what?

G: TOTGA. [laughs]

C: What does that mean?

G: The one that got away.

C: Ohh.

G: That's something- people say that, right.

C: I've not heard it, but maybe some people do. Okay, yeah, so it's like, she's sort of been obsessing over Dean for like, a few years now, so like, she would prefer that obsession to be like, at least somewhat mutual because it's annoying when that guy doesn't even remember you. She and Cas should battle it out at some point. He also raised Dean from the- well, he raised Dean from the dead. He like, did a thing that's sort of related to her thing.

G: I think I think it is fascinating that, like, Dean just has this like, string of supernatural entities that he has like, some weird relationship with.

C: Yeah.

G: Yeah, I mean, Sam does, too, I suppose. They both have their types. Wait, what is Sam's? He has the werewolf.

C: Yeah, Madison. Ruby.

G: Demon, with ruby. Who else? Rowena. Withc. But that's just to me, personally. Eileen was a ghost, but that doesn't really count.

C: Yeah, that wasn't really part of that.

G: But you know what? [laughs] If we try hard enough, it could be.

C: Sure.

G: Who else was Sam involved with? Doesn't he- ah, no, Amy is like, a different thing. That's not his kid.

C: Yeah, but, I mean-

G: Am I mixing things up?

C: Sam and Amy were into each other when they were kids.

G: Yeah, so I guess that's something. And with Dean, good lord.

C: Cas. Crowley.

G: Crowley [pronounced Cr-ow-ley]. That's so weird now! That's so weird to say now. Crowley.

C: I mean, it's important to say so we don't get him mixed up with my specialest little girl.

G: Benny.

C:  Benny, yeah. I mean, these are all subtextual. Like, Sam's are like, actual.

G: That's true. Amara isn't. Amara isn't, but-

C: Yeah, Amara's- Yeah, there's something textual.

G: I mean, Cas isn't subtextual. Don't say that!

C: It's one-sided subtextual.

G: Booo! Yeah, it is. [both laugh] That is interesting. I suppose Sam has all the textual ones, and Dean has all the subtextual ones, and even the Amara stuff is like, presented as he doesn't like it.

C: Want it, yeah.

Dean says that Tessa can't kill the kid because demons are here and Cole knows where they are, so he can like, help stop them from killing more reapers. Sam tells Tessa that she should skip town. The whole time, right, like, Tessa's just like- she's very strongly like, [annoying voice] "No, I'm not going. You guys are stupid. Blah blah blah blah blah!" And she is talking like that. And like, "I don't give a shit about anything. I'm just trying to like, fix death in this town. Your whole angel-demon danceoff, I could care less." Blah blah blah, "No." And then, like, Dean, just goes like, "Okay, can you just wait until we fix this, pwease?" And she just switches her tune really fast, which I found annoying. Like, I wish there was more of a progression.

G: Honestly, because, like, the way it's presented is like, Dean getting away made her endeared to him.

C: Yeah, so it's like, he was like, "Pwease," and then she was like, "Yeah, okay, babe."

G: I don't even think that would be the case. Like, if you had a really bad day at work, [both laugh] and you try very hard to get this guy- You know what? Maybe they were like, "I had a bad day at work. What a weird time we were in together."

C: Maybe. I mean, I guess that's how they want to play it, so what-the-fuck-ever. And then she's like, "Just so we're clear, when I start reaping again, I'm starting with the kid," and she seems pretty excited about killing Cole. But then, when I say no internal consistency, it's mostly about this. Like, later, she's like, so compassionate, or like, nice or whatever to Cole, etc etc. And like, I guess we could think that that's like, an act, 'cause like, I think it's an act in this very next scene. But at the end, I think we're supposed to read it as like, genuine or whatever. Like, there's nothing to indicate that it's an act. And it's like, well, that doesn't jive with what she was saying earlier. So like, yeah, I mean, she's just a tool this episode. She's not a character.

G: But it also does paint the whole trying to convince Dean thing fascinating, because, like-

C: True, she does have a history of like, putting on acts in order to get people to agree to die. Yeah, I guess maybe we were just supposed to know based on that that she was putting on an act. But, like, it's still like, supposed to be like, this beautiful moment or whatever whatever whatever, so I don't know.

Sam's like, "Okay, I'm gonna find the kid and get this info," and Dean's like, "What are you gonna say to him?" And Sam says, "Whatever I have to."

G: This scene is like- is it necessary? Like, I think about it, and I'm like, "Why is Samm doing this?"

C: I don't- I feel that there are other ways to get the kid to like, tell you where the smoke was. Yeah, no, Sam jumps to this solution really fast, and I think it's just to like, you know, help with the whole, "Sam, you might have good intentions, you think, but you're actually like, bad, and the lengths to which you're willing to go to like, do whatever hunting thing, get Lilith, whatever, is too much!" But it did feel pretty jarring and not in like a "It's intentional and like, in a good way" way. It's like, "It's intentional in a bad way" way.

Sam goes upstairs to Cole's room. Cole is in the closet. Slay. He's like, trying to do this sympathetic thing where he's like, "Oh, this must all be really overwhelming and scary." Cole's like, "It's really difficult to see my mom like, come in here and tell me how sad she is, and like, I'll move stuff so that she knows that I'm here, but that just makes her more sad." And Cole says that he's not gonna tell Sam where the smoke is, and then Sam pauses for a second, and then he's like, "Hey, what if I told you that if you helped me, you wouldn't have to leave here, ever." Like, "Oh, no reaper would bother you. You're safe from Tessa. You can just stay here with your family for as long as you wanted. I can do that for you." And Cole makes him promise, and he does, and it's just like- yeah, it just feels like a forced setting up something.

G: I suppose it was odd to me 'cause like, I never even really thought of Cole as like, someone who desperately wanted to stay.

C: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that was not set up at all.

G: Obviously, when the reaper was reaping him, he didn't want to go. But, like, now he has seen his mother, and like, now he has seen how- I mean, he mentions, right, like, "I tried to move around stuff, but she just gets lonelier and lonelier."

C: Yeah, like, I don't see why he would want to stick around. Besides, I guess, just that he's scared of death, which is like, the point of the episode or whatever, but like, he doesn't even say that. It's odd. And also it's like, there's no real follow-through. Like, Sam's the one who does this, and like, Sam doesn't seem to have any like, rough feelings about it later. Like, Dean's the one who's like, "Cas, it's so bad that people are gonna die now," and like, Dean's the one who's with Tessa when she finally takes Cole, so it's like, if you're like, putting like, the like, moral grayness of this on Sam, then like, it should end with Sam. But Sam just like, fucks off after the funeral home.

G: I don't think Sam even knows that this happened, if I'm being fucking for real. [both laugh]

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G: Tessa and Dean are in the kitchen, still talking. It starts this thing where, like, Tessa is like, saying, like, "Oh, life's so funny! You and me together again." And Dean asks, "Are you making a move on me?" And she goes, "You're the one that got away. You'd be surprised how little that happens to me." Fun. And then Dean asks, "Can I tell you something? Between you and me?" which did remind me of the whole, you know-

C: 4.07.

G: "if you promise not to tell another soul." And Tessa's response is "Who am I gonna tell?" Which is also interesting.

C: Yeah. What about the reaper Discord?

G: Yeah. 'Cause like, what are reapers? Reapers are a separate thing from demons and angels?

C: Later, they're retconned to be angels, but like, currently, they're not.

G: Yeah, exactly, right? I think about like, what is the social dynamic of angelhood? Like, if you say that Cas, and Cas goes, "Who am I gonna tell?" Cas in the future, probably, like, that's true. Cas now is like, well, he has many people to tell, actually. Like, he could tell Uriel or something. His cohorts in heaven. But like, with Tessa, who, I mean, at this point, not written to be an angel, so does Tessa not have anyone? You know. Like, are reapers more isolated, individual, solo-flying creatures than angels and- well, than angels? We don't really see the social aspect of demons that much. Well, I thought it was interesting. But Dean says that "After our little experience, for a whole year after that, I just had this hole in my gut," which, you know, you cannot just- What's that line Sam says? "I know that you have a hole in you-"

C: And you can't just like, shove stuff-

G: Keep filling it up, yeah. Wonderful sentence. But he goes, "I was missing something. I didn't know what, but you know what it is? It was you." And I was like, "Oh my god, that's such a romantic thing to say!" And then he goes, "The pain of everything I experienced. I just wish I was dead for good." [laughs] And I was like, "Good lord." Yeah, and he goes, "Yeah, I guess things are different now, though." And Tessa asks about like, "Oh, is it the angel on your shoulder?" And yeah, this is our reveal that Tessa knows, although we don't really do anything about it. Yeah. Dean says, "Yeah. Don't get me wrong, most of the angels I've met are dicks with wings." I suppose that is "most" meaning Uriel and Cas. He says he's done horrible things, but someone upstairs still decided he deserves a second chance. It makes him feel- "I don't know." And then Sam comes down, disturbs this conversation, and Tessa does this whole thing where she introduces herself to Cole. I find this so odd. 'Cause Sam goes like, "Okay, Cole. Just tell them what you told me," and it's like, [both] "You could've just told just told them." You're expo- It's so odd. Why are you doing this, Sam? He says, "I saw the black smoke at my funeral, at the funeral home. It was everywhere." And then suddenly, lights start flickering, and the front door swings open, and then black smoke everywhere. It like, covers everything, and then when it disappears, Tessa is gone. Dean is like, "Oh my god! Like, how the hell are we supposed to fight that?" And Sam's like, "Oh, maybe we should learn some ghost moves." And Dean goes, "By tonight? Yeah, sure, I'll meet you back at Mister Miyagi's." And the kid goes, "Who's Mister Miyagi?" This is a- what?

C: Karate Kid?

G: - Karate Kid reference, maybe?

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C: Okay, what we have next is this sort of fun, like, training montage of Sam and Dean learning how to ghostfight.

G: It is pretty fun!

C: Yeah. I was amused. Like, I'm glad they didn't like, push too hard the "And everything they're doing is to try to kill Cole eventually" angle, because I feel like it would have been a bit overdone. I feel like it just works as a thing that's sort of in the back of your mind while you watch them have fun and goof around.

G: Yeah. Also, yeah, Sam does mention here like, Cole's twelve. You're right. I don't know. I wish they just hired an actor who looks a bit younger.

C: I mean, this is a twelve-year-old to me. Why not?

G: I mean, this kid, I think, acts well. I think-

C: We can probably look up this kid's age. But okay, when we're doing the IMDb thing, so we don't spoil ourselves, we can figure out how old this kid was in 2009. First step of the training montage, Dean's concentrating really, really hard to try to get a windmill to turn, and he does like, an okay job, but it's a lot of effort. And, you know, Cole's cocky, Cole's having a great time, and he is able to move a bunch of shit outside. And then inside, Cole is punching Sam. [laughs] It's great. Apparently, if you feel angry, then like, that causes you to be able to make contact, or whatever the fuck, though we don't really get into what makes Cole angry, and I feel like that could be an interesting way to go with his character. But eh, whatever. We've got limited time. So he tells Dean to hit him, and you know, Dean's like, "I'll stick to someone my own side," and then Cole like, just punches Dean in the face. It's great. Then Cole tells Sam to hit him, and, you know, Sam says that he's not gonna Fight Club a twelve-year-old, and then Cole gets Sam in the face! And Sam's like, sort of laughing, and he's like, "Alright, alright! Cut it out." And then at Cole's next punch at Sam, Sam is like, fully ready to throw hands with a twelve-year-old, but Cole disappears and then reappears across the room to escape that. It's fun. [G: Yeah.] I liked the way Sam was laughing on "Alright, cut it out." Like, yeah. They could have had a good, fun time as ghosts together.

G: You know what would fix- [laughs] You know what would fix Sam and Dean?

C: Like, if they had younger sibling.

G: Is if they had another younger brother. [laughs]

C: I mean, they do have one, and it doesn't fix anything. [G laughs]

G: No, Adam is a middle brother.

C: Really?

G: I think. Is that true? I think that's a lie and I'm lying to you.

C: Adam is the youngest. Wasn't he studying biology, like, as an undergrad?

G: He was 19. He was like, 19. Yeah. Damn. Well, they should have played-fight with Adam, and maybe it would have fixed everything.

G: Yeah, I'm assuming they real-fight with the ghoul that looks like Adam. But yeah. You know, Dean wants Cole to teach him that particular trick, and supposedly, he does.

G: Yeah. And then, you know, we are walking towards the funeral home, and we see the outside, and it's completely covered in this, like, glowing diagrams of sigils on the wall. You know, Sam and Dean figure that this is something that only, like, people in the veil can see 'cause, you know, they wouldn't be able to see this IRL. And as they go along, they go inside, and there is this like, room that's just massive and unoccupied by anything else, and there is a sigil on the floor, and inside this giant sigil is Tessa and this other guy, who is, I suppose, the older reaper. And there's a guy standing guard. So like, there's a fight scene where this guy gets beat up. Like, they don't see Sam and Dean, right? Like, this guy doesn't see Sam and Dean.

C: Yeah, yeah, no, they're both invisible-punching him, and it's pretty funny.

G: Yeah. More people come in, and they get trapped. Like, this is a trick. They got tricked into attacking this guy and then getting- and then, like, a bunch of people come in with like, this iron chains, and then they get trapped inside an iron chain circle, or- not circle. Whatever. Just a place. And then a man comes in. Familiar face to me and to you, and to anyone who has seen an ounce of "On a Head of a Pin." It's Alastair in his like, final form.

C: Yeah. His voice is great. I can't imitate it, but it's wonderful.

G: Yeah, it's wonderful. It's a combination of like, voice quality of the actor and like, the accent he's putting on. I mean, I'm not sure if it's like, an accent he's putting on or if he just speaks like this. If he does, wonderful thing to to speak like in real life. But, you know, if he isn't-

C: Good job.

G: - wonderful accent to put on for this character. It's like this drawl. It's very drawly. But it's not like- 'cause there's the Southern drawl. I feel like I know what that sounds like. This is not that. It's something else. More bassy. Very good. Very good. I feel like Alastair's voice, this vessel, specifically, is one of those things that, like, you'll recognize it. Like, you hear it once and like, you recognize it. Do you understand what I mean? It's like, you could forget Supernatural for all of its worth, but like, you hear that voice, and you're like, "Oh, that's like, a demon from Supernatural or something."

C: So true.

G: It's so recognizable. I mean, we're gonna talk about it next episode 'cause it is the next episode, but in "On the Head of a Pin," I mean, that episode is constantly referred to as like, one of the best of Season 4 and one of the best of Supernatural because it's so atmospheric, and like, that's a big part of what makes it so good. The atmosphere. And I do think that a lot of the atmosphere is brought by the Alastair actor. Like, he slays this role so hard.

C: Good. So Alastair gets a gun full of rock salt or whatever the fuck, and then he shoots Dean, and he says something about how "Rock salt's not so much fun anymore, is it?" which I wish that there was an episode where it was like, they were the monsters or whatever or like, got more empathy for the people that they hunt, and like, there was a chance for that here, but it's not really a thing. This is just the one line. Unforch. Sam is unable to use his powers because he's not in his body or whatever. Alastair says that Hell keeps sending him back up here, even though he's not that into it, to get him to break seals. For this one he has to kill death twice. He has to kill two reapers. Which, again. Out of nowhere.

G: Literally, like, there's no foreshadowing for this.

C: Truly out of nowhere. He rock salts Sam and tells Dean that it's good to see him again. Dean says, "You can shoot us all you want, but you can't kill us." and Alastair is like, "Oh, are you sure about that?" So like, we're supposed to assume that what's happening in the motel room next-

G: - is gonna kill like, their bodies, yeah.

C: Yeah. But like, is that what the demon's goal seems to be? It's a pretty disjointed fight scene, so I can't really tell, but-

G: I mean, it can either be like, kill Sam and Dean's bodies, or kill Pamela-

C: So then they can't be brought back ever.

G: - so she can't get them back to their bodies.

C: Yeah, that'd be pretty cool if they were stuck as ghosts forever. In the motel, we just cut briefly to, you know, Pamela sitting there, and then there's sounds, so then she locks the door, but there's a window open, and there's wind outside.

G: Alastair, like, holds a scythe. Is it not Sith? Is that a different thing?

C: I think it's scythe.

G: I think Sith is like, from fucking Star Wars. Dean makes a comment of like, "Oh, really? You're gonna feel a reaper with that? Little on the nose, huh?" Alastair says, "An old friend lent it to me. You know, he doesn't really ride a pale horse, but he does have three amigos." Fun! Fun stuff.

C: Yeah. "They're just jonesing for the Apocalypse." [G: So like-] Yeah, he's friends with Death. Imagine being a regular person who dies and was kind of shitty, so you become a demon in Hell, and now you're like, friends with literal Death.

G: Also, I don't remember much of what Death is like in Season 5. I remember some of Famine, but like, in just like, a weird, roundabout way of like, "I know that Famine like, wanted to do the Apocalypse," and I think pestilence also wanted to do the Apocalypse. What's the other fucking-

C: War.

G: War? I don't even remember if we had a War in this thing.

C: I also don't.

G: I mean, we definitely did, 'cause the whole point was collecting the four rings. Death, I feel like, was a lot more-

C: Neutral?

G: - neutral on the whole Apocalypse thing. But from what we hear here, like, I mean, he did offer this scythe, and that is to lead directly to the breaking of the seal, which would lead directly to the Apocalypse, so I suppose.

C: Yeah, I prefer a neutral Death as a character, but if we're doing this, okay.

G: Yeah, I do also prefer a neutral Death. Because, you know, War and Famine and Pestilence are like, bad things, you know. But like, Death is universal.

Alastair pulls up the old guy reaper. He doesn't wake up because he's irrelevant to this fucking episode, and he starts chanting. I don't know. He like- how does he kill? Like, he just slashes with the scythe?

C: Yeah, he just slashes his neck.

G: Sam and Dean notice that there's a chandelier over this sigil. As the reaper grabs Tessa, who wakes up, Sam and Dean are able to chandelier that thing down. It like, breaks the seal of the sigil. Tessa is able to get out. Also, like, in the motel room, we are seeing stuff happening, where like, Pamela. like, closes the window, goes to the bathroom, you know, nobody's there. But then, you know, she leaves the bathroom. There's a demon in the hotel room. There's this little moment where she's like, pretending to not notice, and then she runs up to Sam and starts reciting the chant that like, supposed to bring him back. But Pamela gets dragged up in everything.

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C: Okay, we cut outside the funeral home, and Sam is gone. So Dean tells Tessa to get out of here, he'll find Sam. In the motel room, what has happened is that Pamela was able to wake Sam up, finally. However, in the course of her fight with the demon, she gets stabbed in the stomach. RIP.

G: RIP.

C: Sam exorcises the daemon with his powers and shit, and then, again, the vessel seems to die from Sam like, flinging it against the wall. RIP. Pamela is laughing, but like, clearly not in like, a good way, and she's saying that she can't die in this town. There's no blood from her injury. Sam is worried about her, and he's saying, like, "You need a doctor." I like how that line was delivered. I don't know. He was very niceys about it. Pamela's like, "No, let's just- just make me a drink." What is the reasoning here? What's like, going on with Pamela internally?

G: That like, she wants to save Dean versus go to- Yeah, I don't know.

C: What do you mean save Dean? She could just wake him up, like, right now. [G: Yeah.] They just wanted her die. I don't know. It's just like, "It's like, useless or whatever, so I'll die anyway"? Like, "No hospital can help."

G: Yeah. 'Cause like, the moment she gets out of this place and another reaper finds her, she'll get reaped. But also, like, you can still treat the wound, I think.

C: Yeah, I also think that you can. The issue is just that you'll just start bleeding again, but if you bandage up the area, once you start bleeding again, it'll be less bad or something, right?

G: No, it probably will be. I mean, we saw how it bled out when it started bleeding out.

C: That's true.

G: But like, you don't know that from just getting stabbed. Or maybe you do. I've never been stabbed, so I don't know.

C: Yeah, like, she's just super certain that it's like, bad enough that she would die, no matter what?

G: Yeah, perhaps.

C: I don't know that you'd know that, but like, maybe she does know that.

Dean is outside walking, and then Alastair appears and says, like, "You can't run. Not from me. I'm inside that angsty little noggin of yours." And then Alastair gets struck by lightning and just is gone. And Dean, [laughs] very confused, looks around, [both] goes, "What the hell?" And then from behind him, a voice says, "Guess again."! And he turns around, and it's Cas!!! Well.

G: Cas thinks he's so funny. He thinks he's so funny.

C: And he is! And he is!

G: He's wonderful.

C: Ah! He's so babygirl. And he's not even- he's not even looking at Dean when he says it. Like, Dean turns around, and then, like, there's like, a beat before Cas looks up to meet his gaze, which I think is great.

G: Yeah.

C: He's just like me for real, he's wonderful! He's wonderful!

G: I mean, we make jokes that like, Cas is saying this because he thinks he's so fun and cool and fresh or whatever, but like, it really does feel like such a practiced stint. Because, like, later, we see Cas in this scene, and he's just- we have this like, shot that's like, far away, so it's full body, and Cas is just standing there like, bad posture, hands on his side, and I did have the thought "He's not used to his body yet." Like, he hasn't grown into this body yet. First, because, like, it's not his yet, it's still like, a vessel. Like, Jimmy's still in there. Oh, god! We're gonna have the Jimmy episode this season!

C: We sure are.

G: I completely fucking forgor. It's that- and like, you know, 'cause like, later on in the show, like, Cas's body is his body, and like, I think we see that on screen that that's him. Like, he exists in this physical form. And like, you know, that's a thing that the angels insult him for in "Lily Sunder" and everything. But here, it is very much like, Cas isn't used to his body yet. So during moments where he has, like, a very specific, timed move, all I can think of is like, "He's doing that on purpose." Like, he's thinking about that. This, like, physical form doesn't come naturally to him. He has to think about it and adjust to it and everything. [both] Cas!

C: Ah! We cut to a little bit later, Cas says, like, "What just happened? You and Sam just saved a seal. We captured Alastair. Dean. this was a victory." He does seem really like, sincere and like, a little bit proud about all of that. Yeah, but also, he's trying to convince Dean of it, because, I guess, during the time cut, Dean yelled at him, or whatever. And, you know, his head is tilted in the beautiful way that it is.

G: Yeah. I have a bookmark that is- [laughs] It's basically a a photo card. Like, I printed a picture of Cas, and then I laminated it. Like, I la- I couldn't even go to the store, and like, have it laminated. [C laughs] I bought a laminating, like, sheet, and I laminated it myself, 'cause I was so embarrassed. [C laughing] But yeah. Apparently, you can just iron that shit together, and then it gets laminated.

C: Nice! Good to know.

G: Fun stuff. And it's this scene. It's Cas like, tilting his head that way.

C: Aw! God bless.

Dean says, "Well, no, thanks to you." And Cas, you know, with his his head tilted, goes, "What makes you say that?" Ah! He's soo cute. He's so cute. Dean seems genuinely upset about this. I think it's the way the street lights work; it's making his eyes look wet, so like, it looks like he's like, on the verge of tears, even though he isn't. And he goes, "You were here the whole time?" Huh! That is interesting because it's like, we've seen- Like, first off, Cas did help. He just zapped that guy for you. Be grateful. Secondly, like, I don't know why Dean would expect help given that like, they haven't had help in the past, either, right? Like, 4.02, he had this argument with Cas as well. He was like, "There were people down here dying," and Cas was like, "I was busy, bitch." Like-

G: I mean, even then, Dean was upset. So this is just not-

C: This is the same thing.

G: He hasn't learned to not be upset about it yet.

C: Yeah. I don't know. I guess, like, he has been hinging a lot of his like, willingness to live on like, "The angels have like, a personal investment in me. Like, they wanna help me specifically."

G: Yeah. [makes emotional sounds]

C: So I guess Cas being here the whole time but not helping him would not help with, like, what he's trying to use as his will to live.

G: No, but it's crazy, because, like, you know, in 4.02, it's like, "Angels are supposed to be good, and there's people dying out here!" And then here, the argument is, "But I was suffering. Like, I was shot with that rock salt."

C: Yeah, "You like me, right?"

G: Yeah. And then, you know, I mean, it's not even "You like me, specifically."

C: It's just "I'm special."

G: It's that "The angels have an investment in me 'cause I'm special." And then, you know, just off the top of my head, like, in Season 12, when Cas, like, goes to Heaven to track Kelly or something, and Dean gets mad at him, like, the upset is now, like, "But you! Like, you, Cas, you're supposed to be with us and helping us," and like, I don't know. The progression of that does make me emo a little bit.

C: Okay. [laughs] Sorry. So true. Um.

G: Well, it is true.

C: Yeah. The other ingredient in this is that like, Dean was being cornered by like, Alastair-

G: Yeah, specifically.

C: - and another part, Dean was like, "I've done really horrible things in Hell, but also, like-" I think he just meant "in Hell" when he was talking to Tessa. But like, I would argue also as a person on Earth. And it was like, "And despite all of that, like, someone upstairs wanted to save me," etc etc. So I guess like, Alastair coming in and trying to force Dean to confront that past, and then, like, Cas showing up and zapping Alastair, and Cas being one of the few beings alive who does know about the Hell torture and doesn't judge Dean for it, like, I guess that that is another ingredient to this soup that is fun. He's angy. And Cas, says, like, "Enough of it." and looks away. I don't- is this like, meant to be like, shame? Or-

G: I don't think so.

C: Yeah, it doesn't feel like it. But he does look away. It could be more of a like, "Okay, here goes a conversation I don't really want to engage in." sort of looking away too.

G: Yeah, pretty much.

C: Yeah. Well, first, Dean says, "Well, thanks for your help with the rock salt." It was- like, the rock salt? Like, was getting shot like, that bad? It's the iron chain that was like, the main issue that was like, keeping you from like, saving everyone.

G: No, I mean, this is what's fascinating to me. Because he's complaining about like, what hurt, not what like, actually lessened their chances of winning.

C: Yeah, yeah. So it is like a- It's a personal thing, yeah.

G: Yeah. Like you said, if he really was upset, it's like, "Well, what about the iron chain that kept us there? Like, we almost- he almost got Tessa."

C: Yeah, we almost didn't make it. The seal could've been broken. But it's not about that.

G:  And it's about like, "Well, I was in pain!"

C: "You let me get a boo-boo!" [both laugh] Yeah. Cas, who's still like, squimting a bit as he talks-

G: [giggling] I'm literally giggling. Well, it's important to me! I love you. I love you, Cas.

C: Yeah. Yeah. He says, "That script on the funeral home, we couldn't penetrate it." And it's nice that he says that because, like, I feel like maybe, like, a little earlier in the season, Cas just would have been like, "Don't care. Go away." But like, this is- like, he is just stating a fact, but it is a fact that implies like, "If we could have, we would have helped." That's nice. And I think that that does like, cause Dean to soften like, a little bit.

G: Of course, yeah.

C: Like, it is meaningful to Dean that this is the case.

G: Oh, god! I'm thinking about- 'cause here, the line is, "The script on the funeral home, we couldn't penetrate it." The next line is "That's why we recruited you." Like, "The reason why we recruited you in the first place is because we couldn't get in there." And it's like, "The only reason why I put you in that danger is because it's essential, like, we had no choice." And then next episode, we get Cas saying, "If it means anything, [overlapping] I would give everything not to have you do this."

C: That is true. [G makes pained sound] Well.

G: God! And then at the end of this season- oh, we'll get into it at the end of the season.

C: Yeah. It'll happen.

G: Good lord!

C: Cas asks, yeah, "Why do you think I recruited you and Sam in the first place?" Dean is like, "Huh? What do you mean?" And, you know, Cas drops the reveal that he was just imitating Bobby's voice on the phone to Sam. Hil-ar-ious. So so so funny. Dean's like, "If you wanted our help, then why didn't you just ask?" And, you know, Cas gets this really annoyed look, and he goes, "Because whatever I ask, you seem to do the exact opposite." Is that true? When did that happen?

G: I mean in Samhain, Cas tells him to leave.

C: Yeah, but he said he secretly wanted-

G: But that's an order. That's an order. I mean, what else did he ask?

C: I mean, I'm sure there's something, we just forgor.

G: "Give me Anna"?

C: They didn't give Anna over, yeah. That's what he says. And then Dean is like, "So, okay, so people in this town are just gonna start dying again?" And, you know, Cas, no hesitation, no blinking, just goes, "Yes." God bless. I love him so much. One day, you're going to heal babies in the park, Cas. Dean is like, "What? Can't you make a few exceptions? Like, these are good people." And Cas says, "To everything, there is a season," which is Ecclesiastes 3:1, baby! What is the stance of the Bible in Supernatural verse? Like, it happened, right?

G: I suppose so. They did Sodom and Gomorrah that thing.

C: Yeah, and Cas said, like, "Read the Bible. Angels are warriors" or whatever, yeah.

G: What's the- 'cause, you know, if it happens in history, like, fine, you know it. But like, are the angels also imbued with like, what people know from the Bible? 'Cause those are different things.

C: Oh, wait, what do you mean?

G: Cas can quote, like, a specific event from the Bible, if, for example, he was there.

C: Which means he's read- Yeah, but this line means he's read the Bible.

G: But here, it's a quote from- yeah. Like, directly from the Bible, so like, mm. I don't know!

C: Well, maybe he was just there listening when King David said that shit.

G: Slay.

C: Yeah, he probably does read the Bible sometimes.

G: Hell yeah.

C: Though I don't know why he would have by now. Maybe, like, the angels have a book club about it where they like, laugh at the inaccuracies.

G: Uriel would be heading it. Funniest angel in the garrison and everything.

C: Exactly. And then Dean says - crazy line. He says, "You made an exception for me." There's a pause, and Cas has not been looking at Dean, but like, during this pause, he turns his head all the way around and looks at him and says, "You're different." Crazy line! [G exclaims] And I know it is about the Michael vessel shit, but sure are lines that were said. And then, like, it's the fact that, at this, like, Cas disappears, and then Tessa reappears directly in his spot, and, like, Tessa, is someone who has, like, pretty strong subtextual romantic and sexual, like, whatever with Dean, and like, it is the fact that, like, Cas says this shit, disappears, and then there's like, an acceptable-ish object of desire, who appears, like, right there in his spot. Like, interesting- interesting choices!

G: 'Cause, also, like, the shot before the "You're different" part is like- Like I said, the far away shot with Cas bad posture, etc. And then, like, Tessa appears, and then, like, Dean notices Tessa, and then we cut back to that shot, and it's like, the exact same shot, like, with the camera. And Tessa is standing in the exact position Cas is in. Like, I cannot reiterate how much this isn't a "Tessa is also there in the general area," like, she's in the exact same spot Cas was standing in. And like, it does make me feeeeel crazy. [laughs] Oh, Cas!

C: Yeah. Cas.

G: You know, one thing I do miss about Season 4 specifically- I feel like in Season 5, this becomes really less of the case, but in Season 4 specifically, Cas just shows up for so little in episodes, you know, because it's not like- it's not like, in the contract that Cas needs to be in this many episodes for this amount, like, you know, it is in future seasons when [disgusted voice] Misha Collins [both fake-vomit] becomes, like, you know, a regular in the cast. So here, it's like, "We just throw Cas in when we need him," and he's gonna be here for, what? Five minutes? Even less? But like, that's his whole thing. And I mean, it does make sense because, like, here, you know, Cas is more of a- has that role in the story of like, someone who just shows up for little bits, and then, like, gives these kinds of information for little sections of time. But, you know, in the future, of course, Cas is a more prominent role in the show. But like, it does feel obvious, you know, like, there are times in the future where like, why can't we just have like, one scene of Cas being like, "Oh, yeah, I don't want to go to that hunt. [C laughs] Good luck, though." You know? [laughs] I mean, the "You're different" line is- this is crazy! I literally hauve Destiel forever. [laughing]

C: Happy for you.

G: But like, I think about the fact that the "You're different" is obviously like, "You're different because you're the Michael's vessel, so in that way, you're different for us." But also, like, Dean is different for like, Cas, specifically. Cas has a personal, profound bond with Dean, just given the fact that- I mean, I'm not even counting the raising from perdition thing. I'm just thinking like, this is like, someone who saved his life, like, saved Cas's life when he absolutely didn't have to and probably had good reason not to in 4.10. This is someone that Cas has bared his soul to in 4.07.

C: Have we had "See, he has this weakness. He likes you." from Uriel already?

G: Oh, yeah! Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. In 4.10 as well. Yeah, Dean is different because all of those things to all of Heaven, but also, Dean is different to Cas because Cas is fond of him. Oh, Cas.

C: Yeah. Oh, Cas. Sorry that you're gonna spend a decade running after a man who wears jeans.

G: From Kansas, even.

C: From Kansas, even.

G: Where is Ka- I mean, I know Kansas is like, right smack in the middle of the mainland United States because that's where the bunker is. Sometimes I think about Cas this season, and I think about, "Is there like foreshadowing for what occurs in the finale?"

C: Oh, yeah.

G: Here, I don't even think- not yet. I feel like that shit happens mostly in the "Cas was gonna go to Dean in the Jimmy episode and then was hauled back to Heaven and got, I don't know, conversion therapied up there." I always thought of Season 4 as a very loaded emotionally season for the both of them, like, in their relationship, but really, like, in this parts of the show- I'm sorry. I mean, I don't know why I'm saying "I'm sorry," but like, it really is less, like, emotional and more the physicality of it.

C: What do you mean? Just their body language?

G: Body language, also, like, specifically how their scenes are filmed. Their scenes are filmed in such a specific way, 'cause like, what they're trying to convey is like, Cas is this like, ethereal creature, and this is like a, "Whoah," like a- you know. It's supposed to be charged in that way. But because it always happens in the dark, in the quiet, in like, those places where, you know, the kitchen scene was like, darkly lit, very quiet. And this scene, darkly lit, very quiet. It just feels so like, intimate. The result of it feels so intimate. Later, we have that scene with like, the crane shot-

C: Oh, god.

G: - where they're like, in this abandoned- not abandoned lot. Like, in the car lot. I think it's in Bobby's backyard or something. That's also dark-lit and everything. Again, it's something that is, I think, very Season 4-specific. They kind of let that whole thing go in future seasons. But I don't know, I feel like Dean and Cas, their story really started out with the sexual tension of it all.

C: So true.

G: 'Cause like, I mean, the kitchen scene is still one of their most, like, Destiel scenes, you know?

C: It's very horny.

G: We have so many seasons' worth of this show. Years' worth of this show. And that one is the one that's like, "Oh. Okay. So they do want to fuck each other. Okay, noted!" And, I don't know. The fact that it comes so early in the story and precedes all of the emotional stuff is so interesting to me.

C: Yeah.

G: I mean, we know from, like, you know, forums and everything that the moment the episode dropped, like, people were like, "Oh." Like, you know, "Lazarus Rising" dropped, people were like, "Oh. Is something on there?" But is the pivoting to a more emotional connection, a result of trying to like, un-homo it?

C: Huh!

G: Do you understand what I mean?

C: Yeah, like, if they're friends, that's like, chiller than the way they are standing less than a foot away from each other, staring at each others' mouths all the time.

G: [laughs] Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 'Cause like, that dynamic really does change in later seasons, I feel. It becomes more like, again, like I said, it becomes more emotional. Familiar, I suppose, is the proper term. Instead of Cas being this like, foreign entity to Dean that always keeps him on his toes and everything.

C: Yeah.

G: Yeah. I don't know. I have a lot of Destiel thoughts with this scene.

C: Congrats. Yeah.

G: Thank you.

C: I mean, Cas is pretty hot there. So, so true.

G: Cas is such a wonderful, wonderful character! I hauve Castiel, forever.

C: Yeah.

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C: So we're in Cole's house again, and, you know, his mom's crying over a photo book of them, and Cole is watching, and Tessa shows up wearing a fucking white nightgown 'cause why not? Dean is also there. And Cole somehow seems to sense-

G: Why, even? Why the change of outfit? Why the everything? Why?

C: I don't know. I don't know. Like, that's her like, work uniform? Before, she was just in her casual clothes at home? I don't know. It's for the visual whatever whatever, and I think it's dumb. I mean, it happened in 2.01 as well. Like, she was like, pretending to be another like, hospital patient, and then, like, once she's revealed as a reaper, like, she like, gets this black dress or whatever, right?

G: Yeah yeah yeah.

C: Yeah, it's just a fucking thing. And Cole is just somehow able to automatically tell that this means that she's gonna come and like, send him to the afterlife. He looks at Dean, and he says, "Tell your brother thanks for nothing, "and that's just like, the only payoff we get to like, that whole moral dilemma setup. Not particularly satisfying, I would say. And then Tessa goes for the angle where it's like, "Look, your mom is so unhappy, and as long as she can feel you, she'll be in pain because she can't let go because you won't let go of her," but I mean, she says it all in like, a very nice, compassionate, whatever voice. And then- ugh! So, you know, Cole is like, "Why won't anybody tell me what's on the other side?" Did he- he didn't even ask anybody during this episode, did he?

G: He literally did not.

C: Yeah. [laughs] Whatever. Maybe he just means like, adults in his life from when he was growing up. Dean says that reapers will never answer your questions, "But trust me, staying here is a whole lot worse than anything over there." Dean has been to Hell.

G: That's literally not true. That's not true. That's a lie, you're lying to him.

C: Maybe he assumes Cole would like, go to Heaven, but like, they don't know people get sorted. Like, maybe you're sending this twelve-year-old to go get tortured on the racks. Yeah, Cole asks why it's worse, and Dean says, "Because one day, your family will be gone, and there'll be nothing left here for you." Harsh! And also, again, doesn't work very well when the only family we've seen is like, his mom who has no personality. Like, I think that if they'd given Cole, like, a sibling, like, this, would have fixed the episode, or at least this strand of the episode.

G: [laughs] Just make him Dean Winchester?

C: No, I wasn't thinking that. I just think like- for him to not want to leave his family- like, I don't know. The thing with the mom and not wanting to leave her, it feels like that dumb, patronizing thing where, like, you know, like, your dad leaves and then he tells like, his eight-year-old son, like, "You're the man of the house now. Take care of your mom for me now," you know? That's like, your mom. But like, if he had like, a sibling of a similar age to him, that'd be like, "That's like, an equal, and like, a friend that I want to stay with," and like, I don't know, that would make more sense to me and like, also just flesh out the not wanting to leave your family thing in general. There's this whole conversation that, like, they make it seem like it's like, the moral of the episode, but like, there was literally nothing about this earlier, so like, it's not? [laughs] Where like, Dean's like, "It's okay to be scared. We're all scared. That's the big secret. We're all scared." That's not a big secret. Everyone knows that it's scary to die? What's the- how is this like, the thing of the episode?

G: I mean, Supernatural usually does have this issue where, like, they have an episode, and then they throw, like, so many things at it. Like, it's not cohesive because they're like, "And here's the moral of the story," and you're like-

C: "No?"

G: - "I think ten minutes ago, you said a different moral." [both laugh] So I don't know what's up with that.

C: I had no idea that people were scared of death. So glad I learned this from the CW’s Supernatural in the year 2023. [G laughs] Cole asks if Dean's coming with him, and Dean's like, "No, but I'm sure I'll be there sooner than you think," and he went and lived for like, eleven more years, unfortunately. There's like, this thing where, like, Cole dies by like, hugging Tessa, and then he like, melts into her.

G: Yeah. It's so odd!

C: It's strange. Yeah.

G: No, because the thing is like, they have a reaper, and she's a woman [C laughs], and it's like, "How I'm going to reap you is to like, be the embodiment of womanhood."

C: To be motherly, yeah.

G: Like, with Dean, it's like, "I'm gonna kiss you." I mean, like, not to reap Dean, but, like, you know, she is seen as a romantic or sexual figure for him. And for this kid, it's like, "I'm a mother figure for you. I'm gonna hug you while you go into the void or whatever." And I don't know. I mean, do the male reapers-? [laughing]

C: Yeah. Yeah. Would you have kissed Dean?

G: There's that one guy in "Faith." Like, there's that one guy in "Faith." That guy should have kissed Dean or something. [C laughs]

C: But yeah, no, it's- yeah. And I guess, like, you could say, like, "Reapers decide like, what kind of role they want to take, and then they choose their form to suit it," but like, that's just making excuses. Supernatural, just like, casts people or thinks of characters and then will just like, do shit based off of what they think that someone who looks like that is supposed to do. It's annoying! I'm annoyed. Also, I don't know. We've already talked about this in “Roadkill,” but the way that they differentiate like, a good, peaceful death, like, looking like going into the light or something different than like, when they like, burn a ghost's body and they're like, screaming and all that shit. I don't like that. I think all deaths should look the same. Maybe it's like, there's one look that's like, "when you die and go to Heaven," and one look when you die and go to Hell?

G: I mean, the thing is because they don't treat those ghosts as people. They just don't.

C: Yeah, they are the monster of the week.

G: Yeah, they think of them as "They're a monster." God. They really did tie up a chain around that guy's neck in "Yellow Fever" and did to him what horrible thing that killed him. Like, that's crazy.

C: Yeah. Yeah. Pretty bad.

G: I feel like if Supernatural interfaced with that ghost as "This is a person, this is a human soul," they would have not done that at all. So yeah, they just don't think of it that way in those episodes.

C: Yeah. And it's especially annoying because, like, the next thing that Tessa says, like, it would help like, her case if like, Cole's death looked horrific. The next thing that she like, really gets into is like, "Dean, you should look out for yourself, because, like, the thing that I see the most with death is that people lie to themselves about how like, people are in a better place now," etc etc. So like, so Cole's death should have looked bad. It should have looked like the death of every other ghost to like, hammer home the fact that, like, any lies you tell yourself about death aren't true. But like, no, like, he literally does like, hug her and go into the light. Like, that does not help your argument, Tessa. Or, that doesn't help your argument, Jeremy Carver, I suppose. Ugh! What an annoying man! Yeah, so that happens. That's how Cole dies dies. Tessa says, like, "I've been around death from the get-go. You know what I see most? Lies. You all lie to yourselves, Dean, because deep down, you're all scared." Where's any of this coming from" Whatever. She says that Dean, the thing he told her earlier where he thinks that the angels have something good in store for him, that is a lie, and he should know deep down that something bad is about to happen, because there's no such thing as miracles. And I mean, this is true. Michael vessel plotline is gonna whack him in the face. Dean asks, "What are you saying?" But she disappears.

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G: Yeah, we go back to the motel room, and Pamela is now finally summoning Dean into his body. After this, like, she goes to sit on Sam's bed. Sam is saying, like, "Yeah, like, don't worry. We're just gonna talk to Tessa and she's gonna hold off the reaping until you get better." And Pamela is like, "Nope. I think she's already back on it," and then we we see a shot of her hand over her wound, and like, blood is like, pouring out of this thing.

C: Yeah, I mean, Sam's natural order thing does stop being part of his, like, logic once it's someone close to him, which yeah, makes sense.

G: Yeah, that's how it goes.

C: That is how it goes.

C: And Dean finally awakes. And he's like, "What the fuck is happening?" And yeah. Pamela's dying. And Sam goes like, "You don't deserve this," and she goes, "Yeah, I don't. I told you I didn't want to do anything with this." [sad sound]

C: Sorry, Pamela.

G: And that, yeah, "Do me a favor. Tell that bastard Bobby Singer to go to Hell forever, introducing me to you two in the first place."

C: Unfortunately, we see him in Heaven, cracking open a cold one, so, doesn't happen.

G: I mean, we also see Pamela in Heaven, I think.

C: That's true.

G: Is that true?

C: Yeah, yeah, she's in "Dark Side of the Moon."

G: The bar? Yeah.

C: The bar is in Dean's mind. That's different. Or is she in a bar in "Dark Side of the Moon" also?

G: Holy shit! She was also in that fucking bar. That's crazy! In Dean's head, even. Well, I think she's also in "The Dark Side of the Moon." Dean says, "If it's any consolation, you're going to a better place," which is untrue. Fundamentally untrue.

C: Yeah, right after that conversation with Tessa, too? Come on!

G: It's such an odd thing- Dean, what are you doing?

C: It's just like, Jeremy Carver really wanted to be like, "And that was the lesson of the episode, you guys!" Okay, but you already taught that lesson to Dean, like, on my screen, so like, you don't have to have him do this?

G: And it's just I feel like it's such a horrible thing to do to someone dying.

C: - thing to say, yeah.

G: To like, spend their last few seconds on Earth giving them platitudes that you both know are not true?

C: Yeah. Like, he's approaching this like it's an awkward dinner and not like, her literal death.

G: Yeah. Pamela goes, "You're lying. But what the hell. Everybody's gotta go sometime." And she motions for Sam to come in close to her, and then she starts whispering, "I know what you did to that demon, Sam. I can feel what's inside you. If you think you have good intentions, think again." And this is the one that like, 'cause it's not talking about the actions or the anything. It's the intentions. Interesting wording, don't you think?

C: Yeah, yeah. I think it is about the like, Sam says that he's doing this to save people and like, to save the world, and that is true, but like, I think that at this point, the show thinks that he's mostly just doing it because of like, the addiction to the demon blood, so it's like, yeah, I mean, I think that's just the point of that line. Which, yeah, neat.

G: Yeah. She dies. Literally spends her dying breath telling Sam-

C: - to stop doing drugs, yeah.

G: - "You're evil." Dean asks, like, "What did she say to you?" And Sam doesn't respond, and that's the end of our episode.

C: Yeah. What'd you think about it?

G: I quite liked it. I think it's a nice way to be reintroduced to Supernatural after three months. Cold turkey. Cold turkey. I did not watch a single episode.

C: Mm. It was fine. I think it had a lot of concepts that were interesting and ways that it could have gone, and it just sort of touches on all them and doesn't really bring any to a particularly satisfying conclusion. Which, I mean, we all talked about during the episode already, so- Like, I can understand intellectually that it's one of the better Supernatural episodes, but like, it didn't really do anything for me, and that is perhaps concerning for the future 250 or whatever episodes we still have.

G: I mean, it is, but like, this isn't really credited as one of the best.

C: Yeah, just on the better half.

G: Hell yeah!

C: Best Line/Worst Line?

G:  I think I like Cas's "You're different," which is so corny! Like it's so corny that I like that one. But I do like it. I do like it.

G: What's your best line?

C: I liked when Cas quoted Ecclesiastes. It was fun. It gives him the correct vibe for Season 4 Cas.

G: Yeah. My worst line is of course, the Demi Moore line.

C: Yeah, and I suppose mine shall be the Victoria's Secret line so that we can cover our bases regarding Dean being an absolute creep, though, I mean also, the "If it's any consolation, you're going to a better place," pretty bad. Pretty worst.

G: Okay. What's our next segment?

C: Spread those sheets.

G: Spreadsheets?

C: Yeah.

G: Spread those sheets, baby.

C: Alright. So I would say that there's misogyny. I don't recall any racism or homophobia. How much misogyny is there? I need to recalibrate. Like, is this like- it feels quite bad, but is it like, not that bad and we just haven't been like, touching Supernatural for a while, or like, what's the sitch?

G: I think this one, I would rate it as-

C: 1 or 2, I guess, 'cause it's not intrinsic to the episode.

G: I think I'll rate it as a two.

C: Sounds good.

G: I'm including here also Tessa's characterization.

C: Yes, good point.

G: But, like, Tessa's characterization began in Season 2, Episode 1, so this is like, they're continuing with her stuff. But also, she didn't have to kiss Dean, and she didn't have to hug that kid.

C: She really did not have to. IMDb guess.

G: Oh, god.

C: Man. What the fuck are things rated as again? Okay, let's see. In the past, in Season 4, "Sex and Violence" got an 8.4. "After School Special" got an 8.6. "Criss Angel is a Douchebag" got a 7.9.

G: That's crazy. 7.9?

C: Yeah, people didn't like those gayass magicians.

G: And we rated it 8.4 and 8.5.

C: Yeah, I mean, we really liked it. Okay, I think people like this one.

G: I think for this one, I'd say it's an 8.2.

C: Okay. I was gonna go for like, more of an 8.5 'cause I think it's better- I think it would be more liked than "Sex and Violence" but not more liked than "After School Special."

G: Ooh! It's an 8.6.

C: Okay, okay. I was pretty close.

G: Pretty high.

C: That is a pretty high rating, yeah.

C: Oh, we can finally check how old that kid was. He was the voice of Nemo??

G: That's wonderful!

C: Okay, he's 29 now. Okay, he was like, 15 when this was- 14 or 15 when this was filmed. So, yeah, not 12.

G: This is so fascinating. Like, this review is called "Stop Lying to Yourself," and I have no idea what they're talking about, based on the review. [C laughing]

C: This person said that Pamela's death was the saddest thing on the show.

G: I mean, so far? 'Cause, I mean, it does feel like a very real death 'cause like, we're at her deathbed as she bleeds it out, and it's not like, immediate. It's not like, you know, like, she gets stabbed in and then dies, it's she gets stabbed, and then there's a time between, and she sits there and dies.

C: Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, that makes sense.

G: I mean, this one points out that Huggy Bear isn't like a "he's a cute bear" thing, and it's a reference to something.

C: What is it a reference to?

G: "The character of Huggy Bear was a 'street-wise, jive-talking' underground contact of Starsky and Hutch from the American 1970's TV show. It means more like informant. Even tho I can not deny that Dean antiquated language choice to Cas indeed interesting." [both laugh] So true!

C: Someone said, "Everyones favorite hot psychic Traci Dinwiddle is back as Pamela, and there is a very special Sexy-Woman-of-the-Week (not that Traci isn't) surprise in store." [both laughing] That is one way you could think about female characters on Supernatural. I suppose. I mean, they do do sexy womans of the week. Boy.

G: This one is saying that like, this season's recurrent plot of broken seals is getting boring.

C: Hmm. I mean, the rest of the show is the recurring plot of "There's a monster, and we have to kill it." [both laughing] Like, yeah.

G: Yeah! I mean, but there's 15 seasons of it, and we're gonna watch all of it, so really.

C: It's every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. This is true! Okay.

G: Yeah, okay, well, that's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next time, we'll be talking about Season 4, Episode 16: "On the Head of a Pin." C: Whoo!

G: Leave us a rating or review wherever you get your podcasts.

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G: That's crazy! [laughs] Yeah. You can email us any feedback, comments, or inquiries at bustyasianbeautiespod@gmail.com. See you guys next time! [both] Bye!

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[beep]

G: Wow! We're like, thinking of this shit. What's wrong with us?

C: It's because we actually tried for RubbishPod, so. [laughs]

G: Yeah, so now we're inclined to try. Wow.

C: Yeah. Yeah.

G: Who'd have thunk?

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G: Isn't there an Eve in Supernatural? Mother of monsters?

C: There's not an Eve, it's- yes, there is an Eve, actually. She's the mother of all monsters or something, right? Isn't she?

G: Yes, yes, Season 6.

C: And then there's Adam and his his fucking seraph wife, [both] Seraphina. [both laugh]

G: Supernatural will do anything.

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G: When was this episode?

C: This episode aired in March 2009, which means that we had Seasons 1 through 4-

G: House was new.

C: - and now we're in the middle of 5. What?

G: Wait, House was not new back then? When did House start airing? I thought it was like, 2008.

C: No. No, House started in 2004

G: That's crazy. It's older than Supernatural?

C: Yeah.

G: Oh, yeah! 'Cause the Amber season was-

C: Was that Season 3?

G: No, it was Season 4, which is Season 3 of Supernatural, and the Amber season is the, you know, the shorter one, because of the strike.

C: Oh, because of the strike. Yeah yeah yeah. And it ends with "Wilson's Heart." Yeah. And okay, since it is March 2009 when this episode airs, it also means that “Lucky 13” has happened, which you know, wonderful episode.

G: Bisexuality win.

C: Bisexuality win.

G: Is that the one? What is that episode.

C: Yeah, it's the one where this girl at a club hooks up with her just so that-

G: Oh, yeah.

C: - she, like, can have a medical attack in her bed so that Thirteen will treat her. [G laughs] And then at the end, it's like, "We're not even in love."

G: And Thirteen was like, "We can die. Together." And then apparently, she's not dying, so they're not even in love anymore.

C: Yeah, it's like all the charm goes away and it's like, joever. Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful episode.

G: Wonderful!

C: Will never be the lesbians with the liver transplant or whatever, but you know what? It's close.

G: That shit was crazy. That shit was crazy.

C: It was great. But yeah, okay. What do you think Dean's House M.D. opinions are, and do you think Sam has seen any, and if so, what are his opinions?

G: First of all, who is who is Dean's favorite fellow? We need to figure this out.

C: Oh, I didn't even think about that. I think for Sam, I think he wants it to be Cameron, but he's actually a Foreman girl.

G: You know what? I believe it. I mean, you know, the whole Foreman thing with the like, paper, I feel like Sam would be like, into that.

C: Which paper?

G: Like, Sam would understand where Foreman is coming from. Like, Foreman like, stole Cameron's paper and everything?

C: Her file?

G: No no no, Cameron's like, article.

C: Oh. Slay.

G: And that's the thing that they were fighting about when he got fucking parasited in the head and almost died.

C: Wait wait wait, is that the one where he-

G: And then he stabs her!

C: - infects her on purpose to force her take care of him?

G: He stabs her on purpose to infect her! Amazing!

C: It's great. I think Foreman's wonderful.

G: Amazing! No, because the thing is like, people, when they talk about House, talk about like, "House is so crazy, but like, Wilson's even more insane," and it's like, everybody in this fucking show is ball-to-the-wall.

C: Yeah. Chase killed somebody.

G: He killed a guy! Straightest thing he's ever done. Yeah. It's wonderful.

C: Okay. Who do you think Dean's favorite fellow is? I have absolutely no opinions on this. My Dean House M.D. opinions start and end with "He probably thinks it's funny when House sexually harasses people."

G: He genuinely fucking does. He like, sees that as inspirational content. [both laugh]

C: No, exactly. He's taking notes every time, like, House is just the worst to Cuddy. He just  goes, "Right on, House!" and like, slaps the TV on the shoulder, and then takes another note.

G: Dean is like, a terrible guy! [both laughing]

C: Yeah, he is! He's quite bad this episode!

G: Sometimes I forget, and then I remember! It's like, you know, wow!

C: Wow! I feel like people are gonna be upset because there's the whole like, "It's performative because of his sexuality!" blah blah. I don't think it is. I think he's just- yeah.

G: I do not buy it.

C: Yeah. Do you have an opinion on Dean's favorite fellow?

G: You know what?

C: What. Kushner? Kutner?

G: Okay, he he either really likes Chase, or he really hates Chase.

C: Okay, is his name Kutner or Kushner? I totally forgot, because Obama killed him.

G: It's Kutner. It's Kutner.

C: Kutner? Yeah, okay.

G: Is it Kutner or Kutner? I don't know. I think I just said the exact same words in the exact same pronunciation. [both laugh] And it literally is either of those two. Yeah. Obama killed that guy.

G: I think Cutner actually has, like, a very- I feel like the people that like, are closest to House intellectually, like, in terms of thought process and everything is portrayed as like, Chase and Kutner, so I feel like there's something to that for Dean.

C: Chase? Wait, Chase? Are you sure? Okay. I thought Foreman had the arc.

G: I mean, Chase is frequently- I mean, Foreman had the arc of like, "I'm like you, but I don't want to be like you" or whatever. And with Chase it's like, "I'm not exactly like House-"

C: "But I want to be."

G: "- but if I was like him, I wouldn't be opposed to it," you know. And, I mean, Chase did inherit the post. Right? The show ends, and he's Head of Diagnostics?

C: I don't rember.

G: Yeah, he is.

C: He didn't deserve that.

G: Yeah, he's Head of Diagnostics. I think he did.

C: I guess 'cause all the other fellows left.

G: 'Cause he figured out that one girl had fucking, I don't know, sun infection or whatever.

C: [laughs] I don't rember. Probably.

G: [laughs] They will literally have just randomass diseases in House M.D., and I support it.

C: Yeah.

G: Chase is frequently seen as the one with the Eureka moments and everything.

C: Chase does have daddy issues, which I guess Dean could latch onto.

G: No, yeah, exactly. And like, that's why I'm saying that like, Kutner and Chase trying to be like- not trying to be like House, but like, being like House in a way, and like, reacting differently to those situations, like, I feel like that would appeal to Dean as like, someone with daddy issues. 'Cause I do feel like a lot of what Chase's thing going on is like, projecting the daddy issues from his dad to House, and I feel like, you know, that would appeal to Dean.

C: Yeah.

G: What if his favorite fellow is Taub? [C laughs]

C: No one's favorite fellow is Taub. Not a single person.

G: [laughing] Has anyone ever said those words before? "My favorite fellow is Taub."

C: Yeah.

G: Yeah, guy who cheats on his wife. Could be appealing! Who knows? C: That's true.

G: I mean, Wilson also cheats on several wives.

C: Yeah, Wilson cheats on a lot of wives. [G laughing]

G: That's like, Wilson's favorite pastime.

C: Yeah, yeah.

G: Cheat on his wives, fuck his patients.

C: Yeah. Just one of them! [both laugh]

G: Just one. Just one patient.

C: Yeah, yeah. Her fucking clothes are in his closet and all that shit.

G: No his clothes are in her closet.

C: Are his clothes in her closet? That's crazy. Fucking stays the night.

G: Yeah. Until House figures it out. [laughing] I love House M.D.!

C: It's a really bad show and no one should watch it.

G: What a horrible show that is so good!

C: I don't know. What does Sam get out of House M.D.?

G: You know what? What's the name of that guy that's like, Kutner's bestie when they were in training? Or when they were like, doing the elimination rounds?

C: I have no clue.

G: And he was like, Mormon or something? And he had a kid, and he got kicked out 'cause he like, instead of getting the panties from Cuddy, [laughs] he like, struck a deal with Cuddy so Cuddy would give it to him. What's his name?

C: Okay. I don't know.

G: Cole.

C: Okay.

G: Wow. He's a 28-year-old divorcee, and that is so important to me. [C laughing] Like, his House Wiki page literally just says, "Name: Jeffrey Cole. Age: 28. Marital status: Divorced"! And that's important to me.

C: Could have been me, like, six years early if Danica and I just stuck it out for a little longer.

G: Exactly. Could be me if they legalized divorce in the Philippines.

C: Could be! Wait, what were you gonna say about Cole.

G: No, because, like, Cole has this like, arc, where, like, he's a bit goody two-shoes, and 'cause like, part of it is like, he's Mormon and like, House is always trying to trip him up faith-wise and everything. Like, he gets eliminated because House was making them do something, and he does it, but in a roundabout way, where, instead of what House wanted, which is for them to, you know, like, play with the system, he instead, like, worked with the system, so.

C: "Play with the system" is such an interesting way to say "break into boss's house-" like, "boss's boss's house and then steal her panties," [G laughing] but yeah.

G: But that's the way House worded it! It's the way he words it. It's crazy.

C: It is the way he worded it. Yeah. Well, what a show that is. Anyway, so after that line-

G: I mean, House M.D. has unmatched levels of misogyny-

C: And racism and everything-

G: - but at least there, women are people.

C: No, exactly.

G: Yeah, everything. But like, their characters are people, and I like that. I appreciate that.

C: Yeah. Yeah.

G: You cannot say the same about Supernatural.

C: Yeah, until later, hopefully, I think some women are people.

G: That's true. Rowena is in this show.

C: True.

G: Also, just to inform everyone, during the break, I saw a post on my timeline that's like, "Who do you ship Amara with?" and then, like, Billie was one of the choices, and I like, got Covid from that post. [both laugh] Like, I saw that, and I was like, "I think I hauve Covid!" [C laughs] That's crazy. That's crazy.

C: Pretty good.

G: And there's no content for it. Like, the AO3 tag is a episode tag. "Supernatural Form and Void," not even for Supernatural. That's crazy, right?

C: Yeah.

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C: What's up, gamers?

G: What's up? Who, gamers?

C: Who's turn? Is it my turn?

G: [British accent] It's your turn.

C: [British accent] Alright.

G: [laughing] That's such a fucking- why is it when I do accents, it's like, completely normal behavior, but like, when you do it, I'm like, "That's the funniest thing anyone has ever said in the podcast." [C laughs]

C: I don't know. I think you just do it more often.

G: Yeah. Do one right now. Do one right now.

C: No!

G: Do a Southern accent. Let's hear it.

C: No! So Alastair gets a- [G laughs] I'm not.

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C: What’s up, gamers?

G: How do I- how the hell do I meet people if I don't want to go on the apps?

C: Oh. I don't know. Extracurriculars.

G: Oh, yeah.

C: Bars? [G groans]

G: Horrible. I don't want to do that.

C: Yeah. Oh, well.

G: Well.

C: Pamela's dying. [G laughs]

G: Pamela’s not meeting people. [C laughs]

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Liveblogging Supernatural (but I forgor the first 10 episodes)

This show is stressing me tf out why would you put your hand into a hole with thousands of worms, Dean Winchester

Also so much evidence destruction please stop touching things at active crime scenes 😭😭

The cops in this universe are probably so confused why these two's fingerprints are at every crime scene all over America

This native guy hates dean and he just met him, I love this dude

This show is gonna be the death of me, daddy and mommy issues is a deadly combination

These two dumbass men need therapy, half of their reccuring problems would be solved if they just talked to eachother

Dean said "psycho killer" and now all I can think of is the "Psycho Killer Qu'est-ce que c'est" thingie lol

The first rule of using tasers is DON'T STAND IN WATER.

Dean is giving Eddie in the first Venom movie rn

Why does this show love blonde women so much??? There's so much blonde wtf

I'm assuming we're about to meet the angel dude, Deans fucking dying

Sam is very frustrated by his brother's stubbornness. Sir you are dying rn why don't you give a shit

Omg Dean is dead

No wait he's fine

Wow that priest guy might actually be legit

Dean is so sassy sometimes I love him

This priest guy definitely sold his soul to the devil or something

"I have this thing" and it's a brain tumor- that's the funniest thing ever wtf

What is Dean's necklace

Dean is not concerned that he's about to die when the next dude gets healed, honestly good for him

I think I misunderstood how this works

Why would you heal an old guy he's gonna die soon anyways

This show was made before I was born but it's so interesting, that seems like a pattern with the shows i like (house md, SVU, doctor who, etc, etc)

Omg he's killing "sinners" :0

Welp rip that guy

Bad Sue Anne, we don't kill people.

The Lord will deal with him by giving him an angelic homosexual situationship

Sue Anne! That kills people!! /ref

This blind old man is gonna die, so is dean

Sam, if you don't punch that woman in the face right now I'm gonna fight you

Yay he punched her

Rip Sue Anne and her blind husband

These two definitely act like siblings, kudos to the writers

Who's at the door? LAYLA

She's so pretty

Preemptive Rip for Layla

I'm an atheist but good for Layla, sticking to ur beliefs

So sad, anyways no angel guy, I was wrong

That's a big ass truck

Is the truck racist or is there a spirit driving the truck

Rip that guy damn, his car's a pancake

God damn ghost truck

My man dean's got double standards

"Accidents" three car accident deaths in as many weeks, all black men all the same circumstances. I don't think that's a coincidence, sir

Dean you can't just prod like that and shut her down bro

I love Cassie she says what I'm thinking

Apologizing! Now stop kissing her her dad just died

OH GOD THEY'RE FUCKING EWWW

hmm the floor here is made out of floor

Bruh why is this so long I just wanna get back to mystery

Hi racist old guy, thanks for saving me from that

RACIST TRUCK OH NO

DON'T KILL HIM WTF???

DEAN STOP FLIRTING A MAN IS DEAD

Why does his whole "don't tell people ur a ghost hunter" thing sound like an allegory for coming out

😎🙂🕶️🤏🤨

dean is so smart with ghosts but so dumb with emotions

OH NO THE RACIST TRUCK IS GONNA KILL CASSIE

she closed tge blinds WELL NOW IT KNOWSUR HOME DUMBASS

oh her mom is white, I just thought I was a dumbass

Cassie's mom fucking murdered that guy

Good for you Martin, kill that racist asshole

How are they not used to seeing rotted bodies at this point?

Racist truck boss battle

Damn sick drifting bbg

Ooh it's snowing!

Bro is bullfighting a racist truck, el Matador

Sam is so brother core, "honestly it hadn't occurred to me" SIR YOU COULD'VE KILLED DEAN

rip, getting dumped for the second time by the same girl

Stop kissing this girl in front of your brother Dean

Sick sunnies, Dean

[catsconflictscopicsandchamomile]

@what-if-i-just-did

oh,,, oh Dear,,, hm. well the thing is that since the "unified canon" combined SPNWIN, CW Gotham Knights, and The Boys, TO NAME THE BARE MINIMUM.... it is absolutely batshit unhinged and so unlike spn that for a while I just told ppl I was writing an original book.

that being said, I can try to give you a condensed and somewhat-understable version.

first off, Sam and Dean aren't dead. Well, ok, Sam is dead, kind of, at least his body is. The Rebar(tm) was VERY much some magic fuckery, and "heaven" was an illusion, however Chuck (who did win btw) had no direct involvement

thing is. well, a couple things. first off, turns out fistfighting God does revoke your Human Being Privileges, and being a monster means you're probably weak to cold iron, stakes, and cold iron stakes through the back. Dean Winchester got staked by a vampire bc. lmao. however as spn lore has been very clear abt, shoving a rebar stake through a Creature(tm) can paralyze instead of kill, if the person doing it knows what they're doing.

and hoooo boi does Blurrywife know what she's doing.

yeah 2nd thing. we never officially meet the head of the vamp-mimes nest, bc Blurrywife was the head of the vamp-mimes nest (no she is NOT Eileen, but i think wbk on that one). She was waiting in the field outside the barn til one Winchester was out of commission so she could pick off the other

and then she did exactly that.

bit of a loredrop here (feel free to skip if you've seen Lost Girl or Ancient Magus' Bride bc u know this creature) "Blurrywife" is a type of being called a Leanan-Sidhe. she's from Irish folklore (specifically celtic-renaissance victoriana), but breaking her down into spn terms, she's a Faerie Vampire who feeds on stories. She uses succubus-style tactics, usually preys on artists, and acts somewhat like a parasitic/evil muse. her victims age extremely rapidly, and after death their souls are trapped in her service, playing out her favorite stories on loop.

tldr Narrative-Eating Vampire, Because Supernatural.

welcome to the Fae arc! everything since this has been Faerie-Realms Hot Nonsense with the fairly canon-predictable reveal of the Campbell lineage being Faetouched and the worrying addition of Rome Being Rome.

shit's going down in Hell, again. Chuck re-instated Lucifer, to which the Princes of Hell said "fuck this noise" and are currently rebelling. Lucifer, always one for making good decisions, has gone off to court Rome's affections (read: beg for help), LARP as Fae nobility, cause problems on Earth and wear a really stupid cape. ...and beget another antichrist on the wife of a VERY powerful folkloric figure and sort of "anti-fae", an action which definitely wont have devastating consequences when FCKING *BALOR, GENERAL OF THE FOMOIRE* finds out that Luci fucked his wife.

speaking of irish mythic women, Blurrywife and her thralls dragged Sam and Dean's bodies off to the Faerie realm while their souls haunted That Bridge for a while, stuck in the Leanan Sidhe Timeloop unless any of the new BBEGs needed them for something

Cas DID leave a ring full of his grace for Dean, which Dean had on him in 15x20. This ring allows Dean to time-travel, and regrettably the BBEGs know this. as the BBEGs are also using the Stake through Dean's heart to control him, this is very bad for everyone. Dean has now sliced/bit/firebreath'ed bloody swaths through humans & nonhumans alike across several decades, mutilated at least one god, and was at least semi-conscious for all of it. fuck!

Dean eventually Dean-ed his way out of any and all forms of control and was taken to rest/heal w Jack (who is now Jack O' The Lantern, Lord of Halloween- that was always his destiny and sneaking/breaking into Heaven was the last trial. he has his own domain/pocket afterlife. its very Jackcore in there) before SOMEHOW deciding that the 1970s were a good idea. They weren't, Dean changed exactly 0 timelines/futures but Jack did get captured when he followed Dean out, as did Bobby (who was also staying w Jack) and The Impala (who is a Fae, btw, always has been. she considers herself an older sister/cool aunt to Sam & Dean but lbr she raised them). God damn it Dean....

meanwhile on Cas' side of things: "The Empty" is literally just another name for tartarus, and Cas is not having a good time in the greco-roman underworld, in fact he's currently possessed by a roman god. Janus is awful, like if Casifer were a politician, war deity and also a fuckboi. icky. gross. none of Cas' Very Bad Time was made any better when, shortly pre-Janus, Dean's attempt to escape the aftermath of SPNWIN led to his body splattering against the marble floor of the greek underworld from a height of several thousand feet. Cas did in fact have to see this, and likely reclaimed his ring/at least his grace from Dean's body. there have been no more time shenanigans since then, at least.

Nobody wanted Blurrywife to ally with Rome but here we are. Apparently she's also kinda the goddess Victoria now?? i mean that association has precedent in folklore but, fuck.

where's Mars in all this? she ate Mars. I assume whatever is left is trapped somewhere. who cares he's a dick anyway.

in good news, Dean Jr, Sam's half-faerie son that he 100% does NOT realize wasn't just a dream, has followed in the Winchester tradition of Mommy Issues and Not Going Along With The Purpose You Were Created For, stabbing his mother through with her own blade after finding out that she 1) eats people, 2) made him from the life-force of a guy she ate, 3) made him as a weapon. Didn't kill her, but A for effort, DJ! No idea where he ran off to after that.

Dean ended up back in the Faerie realms and fell in w a Fae war goddess called Cathe (Celtiberian variant of Gaelic war goddess Nemain), who he apparently had a fling with pre-stanford era, thinking she was human???? Dean??? wtf???? (she's REALLY hot tho so i can't blame him-)

Sam's soul breaks containment and runs wild around the Fae realms for a bit before Cathe picks him up too, Adam is there and then dies and then is there and then dies, he's in Hell again (that poor fucking guy). various Princes of Hell show up and start shit, Azazel is back and may or may not be wearing John.

...yay.....

The Fomoire (also from celtic mythology) and Vuagh (scottish) are a thing, tldr two kinds of water demons, both hate each other and both suck, the Vuagh like to follow Lucifer around and kiss up to him, the Fomoire are w the Princes, that's basically all u need to know

s17 ends with a huge battle at Samhain that goes to absolute shit

the portals between the Faerie and Human realms are permanently wedged open, Cathe is in charge of the surviving Fae and immediately allies with both Lucifer and Rome (FUCK!!!!), Dean got exploded but is prolly just back in Hell, Sam and Jack are w Cathe, and Jack is (hopefully possessed and) doing Antichrist Things (oh yeah the Second Coming is happening, she seems rly nice tho), Cas is still possessed by a god, Bobby is being controlled by the FCKING Leanan-Sidhe, Baby is hiding if she's at all smart, and everything has generally gone to shit

here's higher hopes for s18???? it cant get any worse??? can it????

WHERE TF ARE EILEEN AND CHARLIE THEY SEEM BEST SUITED TO HANDLE THIS MESS

(there's a bunch of other episode-of-the-week type shit going on too, 2nd-generation special kids, Megstiel lovechild from like a decade ago, more Roman God Nonsense, etc, but this is the core plot. hope this made some sense. there's way too many shows shoved in here)

summarized season guide for anyone still here somehow:

s16: The BBEGs use Dean and Time Travel for deeply horrific purposes. General intro to Faerie stuff & some new characters, hints of the problems in Hell. ends w Dean breaking containment and going to live w Jack

s17: 1970s -> KNOCK KNOCK ITS ROME -> catch up w Cas & some new characters (+ a proper introduction to DJ!) -> Janus -> Sam breaks out/oh hey is that the Second Coming? -> ends w the Battle at Samhain

s18: just started!

tldr tldr: Chuck Won, Jack is a minor god, Sam and Dean were taken by The Fae. The Empty is Tartarus. due to those last two facts, and also bc Jensen somehow discovered this obscure-ass mythos for spnwin, shit's all Celtiberian (celtic + roman) now, and everything has spiraled rapidly out of control since.

“Supernatural season 16 keeps going!” My brother in Christ we are balls deep in at least season 18 by now

[deangirlnotagirl]

Season 1, Episode 1: Pilot

Ok so I have probably watched this episode more recently than others but it’s still been years and I only remember some things about it so I’m very excited to get started. I also cannot believe I’m getting back into Supernatural in the year of our lord 2024 but let’s do this. Literally just a stream of my thoughts while watching.

- LAWRENCE KANSAS 22 YEARS AGO

- Mary!! This family before it all went wrong 😭

- I forgot the show started with the fire scene and not Sam at Stanford this is so intense!!

- Oh my god Jared is so young

- The opening title but isn’t there usually a noise along with the title? Maybe they add that later

- Of course Jess is dressed up as a sexy nurse for her first scene 🙄

- Don’t get me wrong she’s still really cute I love Jess just forgot how sexy all the women on supernatural had to be all the time

- Oh wow that is a good LSAT score you go Sam

- Oh my god Jensen is so young

- Ugh Dean thinking the best way to greet Sam on a surprise visit after who knows how long is to break into Sam’s house. Is this a game/training exercise they used to do before Sam left? is this just Dean avoiding emotion by being obnoxious? Is it both? Perfect character introduction no notes

- Oh right the rampant misogyny from Dean he was so sleazy when we first met him

- “Dads on a hunting trip and he hasn’t been home in a few days” the words that started it all I’m so nostalgic right now aaaaaahhh

- This convo bw Sam and Dean being the way the writers drop all the key family lore I love it lmao

- Dean doesn’t want to do it alone!!!

- Sam immediately caving

- Jumping into case solving mode!!! We have a ghost!

- In almost two years!! Have they not seen each other in two years or has Dean just not asked him to go hunting in two years??

- Dean’s reaction to hearing Sam is applying for law school and realizing college wasn’t just a phase, he might just never be coming back. And also that he has so much less chance of finding their dad without Sam.

- God poor Jess she didn’t deserve any of this

- Oh this ghost is legitimately creepy I’m feeling creeped out I forgot supernatural was more of an actual horror show in earlier seasons and I love it

- Sam and Dean’s passive aggressive arguing in the impala ❤️

- The cassette tape collection!!

- “I can’t hear you the MUSICS TOO LOUD”

- All of the things we get introduced to about the way the Winchesters operate like the credit card scams and fake IDs it’s just delightful

- Love this goth teen revealing the town ghost story

- “What do they talk about”

- The way Sam takes over the research and it immediately becomes clear that Dean actually does need him. Sam is indispensable to the operation. Honestly I’d like to think if he thought he could do it on his own he would. Despite what he says I don’t think he think he actually wants to ruin Sam’s attempt to escape. Or maybe not maybe he is using this as an excuse to try just one more time to get Sammy back before it’s too late. I’ll have to think about this as the show goes on!

- Why did John solve the case but then not finish dealing with the ghost? I’m guessing this is addressed in later episodes?

- “Jerk” “bitch” 😭

- I had such intense gender envy towards Dean and I did not realize it at all

- Ted Nugent!!

- Sam is so good at getting information from people I love him telling the ghost story I love when he shows that he knows the business as well as anyone

- Dean picking the lock on his handcuffs with a paperclip is something that can be so personal actually

- Sam getting back into it!! A part of this kid just loves hunting so much

- The special effects are fantastic

- “I’m taking you home!!”

- Why don’t they have any salt they know they’re dealing with a ghost Sam and Dean do you not know about salt? Is that not for ghosts? There was literally salt on the floor in their dad’s motel room

- God this ghost story is very sad if you think about it too much

- I’m one episode in and these brothers are already killing me as they discuss how Sam needs to go back for his interview and he was never going to stay longer than two days both of them just break my heart

- “We made a hell of a team back there” 😭

- Also Dean you gotta try being a little less manipulative buddy but I forgive you bc I know your damage

- THE BLOOD DRIPPING ONTO SAM’S HEAD IN A CALL BACK TO THE INTRO!!, NO!!! JESSS!!!, DEAN COMING TO SAVE HIM AGAIN!!!! OH GOD STOP!!!!!!!!

- “We got work to do” 😫

I forgot how genuinely I enjoy this show wow it’s ridiculous and has so many problems but it’s so much fun

[rosemariad]

Supernatural Season 10

part 2: https://www.tumblr.com/rosemariad/729637543609499648/supernatural-season-10-part-2?source=share

so Dean's a demon now. Ugh.

and Cas is dying 😢

this season isn't off to a good start. the one thing I'll say about demon Dean- he's clinging to a code of sorts. he was sent like a typical goon to kill someone per Crowley’s orders but sticks it to the demon and the bitter bitch husband by killing the husband instead of the wife like they wanted cuz fuck that guy and fuck Crowley!!! I'm on Dean's side there.

But Cole...awkward. wonder where that storyline was headed.

I knew it was only a matter of time before they turned Dean back into a human. I doubt the showrunners wanted to keep him that way, just play with the darkness a bit since Dean's in a bad spot. he's still got the mark of cain. it's a shame though. Given what they did with soulless Sam they could've kept Dean as a demon a while longer. oh well.

the fanfiction episode - aka supernatural musical - Oh my Lord that was a hilarious reprieve from the heavy Dean drama.

I can't believe Dean was getting into it towards the end 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and Sam being a tech nerd 🤣🤣🤣 these Winchesters bruh

nuff Said.

so this is when Rowena comes into Supernatural...and she's Crowley’s mom?! 🤯 Wow.

she played him so much for so long...Oh Crowley why are you even bothering with her? I feel like he knew she was playing him but he wanted to believe she could change and that they could be a family. just like Dean, she let him down, then put a hit out on Crowley after fucking with him.

Jody and Donna met!

Yay! can't wait to see more of them!

part 2 since I can't use more gifs....

[sarah-dipitous]

Hellsite Nostalgia Tour 2023 Day 162

What’s Up, Tiger Mommy?

“What’s Up, Tiger Mommy?”

Plot Description: Checking up on Kevin’s mom, the Winchesters discover that Crowley has surrounded her with demons, so they save her and take her along on their quest

Would I Survive the First Five Minutes??: this is not how bank safe deposit boxes work (am I expecting too much verisimilitude from this show??). Girl, you are not supposed to look at what your customers keep in those…this is probably gonna get you killed. Yeah, that dude sure did withdraw a LOT of your blood, babes.

When I opened Netflix it tried to get me to watch Our Planet II, but unfortunately I have to watch Supernatural

I understand Dean’s hesitation to go see Kevin’s mom, but luckily Kevin won out.

Omg…I get you wanna be safe and make sure she’s not a demon, but did you have to ruin the moment of Kevin and his mom’s reunion by splashing her with holy water RIGHT THEN??

Dean. Kevin is 16. He might be a prophet of the lord but, he’s not gonna tell her what to do

I’m…I love Ms Tran. Poor Kevin, squirming and whining getting his first tattoo, but this ain’t his mom’s first rodeo

AYO DEAN. This isn’t purgatory, you can’t just pull a knife on someone during an investigation. He’s a criminal, not a monster

Once again, I’m in awe of Ms Tran…

Is…that?? I…went to imdb and got spoiled for a thing that either has happened or will happen in this episode

I cant believe Sam wanted to use Baby as payment at an auction

(Ok. So TO happen)

“Too much heart was always Castiel’s problem” 😭😭😭

FLASHBACK TO CASSSSS!!!

THE BETRAYALLLLL. Dean’s spent this whole time in purgatory looking for Cas, praying to him every night…Benny, Dean’s new vampire beau, is rightly pissed. And Castiel says he immediately ran away…

Oh. Oh. Castiel, baby, I’m sorry I ever doubted you. He ran to keep the Leviathan away from Dean 💖😭💖😭

I love how Dean’s adopted Benny’s Louisiana accent. He’s always had that slightly southern but still Midwest one, but he’s been hanging around Benny a while now…

That was a long time to have a flashback without anyone questioning him

Hahahahahaha they are WOEFULLY unprepared for this auction. Literally brought 2k and a Costco membership and…at some point I think Crowley is gonna bid…the moon

OH THE BIDDING WAR ON THE DEMON TABLET!!!!! Yes, this is the highlight (aside from Ms Tran) of the episode.

Adding Kevin to the lot is CRUEL. And making his mom bid her SOUL is even worse…

Omg nooooooooo. I KNEW (from imdb) that Crowley would possess Ms Tran but uuuugggghhhh the aftermath of that is awful. Not saying the god of greed was a good guy, but greed’s not ALL bad

Who knew Sam would be worthy of wielding Mjolnir? Last we checked (which, fairly, was a couple seasons ago), he was an abomination

Oh no. The Trans fled, which…honestly, I can’t blame them, but they’re in so much danger

And one final Cas flashback…where it looks like Dean is leaving HIM behind now

[babesonly]

fic recs 2.0!

hello kings (gn) ive got significantly more fic than last time which means this is gonna be a little more organized than the last post bc it is much longer <3 categories in order are non casefic canonverse, casefic/roadtrip fic, finale fixits, endverse, non supernatural aus, and then non destiel ones. titles will be in bold for my favs! also within each category they’re in order from shortest to longest

Canonverse

I’m a tulip in a cup by godtiering (1.2k)

I worry that I never really came back from hell. I wonder why, if I got remade by heaven, I’m still the same screwed up kid that I always was.

Sometimes I worry I’m not into women at all.

"Guess not,” he looks at his shoes.

a REALLY good fic that’s basically just a look inside dean’s head during my bloody valentine do not read this looking for a fun time but please do read it

on vessels by flightsofangels (1.9k)

“You know,” Cas mutters into Dean’s bare skin. “When I was still… an angel, I used to dream that I would take you as my vessel.”

hello consumehimnatural fans!!!!! read newt’s fic right now its incredible

dean winchester is not a nicholas sparks protagonist by microcomets (1.9k)

Dean fell in love with Cas the way you fall asleep--slowly, and then all at once. Or some other hackneyed and trite bullshit. God, this is embarrassing.

dean is in LOVE. he’s also a disaster who keeps staring at cas’ hands. sigh

Stay by aeli_kindara (2.5k)

Coda to 13.06 (Tombstone). In which Castiel reckons with the aftermath of Dean's grief.

hello fellow widow arc fans <3 click here to see cas find out abt the events of advanced thanatology !

walking on a string by swordfishtrombones (2.7k)

Between the doomed offensive at the Firmament and the impending retreat from the ravaged northeast border, Castiel left camp long enough to answer one of Dean Winchester's prayers.

S6 DEAN IS A WAR WIFE. been really into early seasons deancas lately and this one is very good. god

the flesh of the mighty by Mudprophet (2.7k)

Ezekiel 39:17 "you shall eat the flesh of the mighty and drink the blood of the princes of the earth."

MY GOD. anyone who saw the @autisticandroids​ purgatory cannibalism talk and was interested read this right now. also anyone who enjoyed nbc hannibal OR raw (2016). if romantic cannibalism is remotely aligned with your interests read this right now. god

Sam Winchester, Ally At Law by alittleduck (3.3k)

Sam was pretty sure he could read every single gay friendly guide to coming out or supporting queer family members ever written and literally none of them would even imply that arguing with gay people that they were actually just homophobic constituted as "ally behavior". However, Sam was equally sure that none of those book authors had found themselves accidentally watching their brother get pounded by an Angel of the Lord at 9 am on Tuesday, so Sam was pretty sure he might actually still have the higher ground. Now, if only Jack would stop trying to bond with Dean using gay slurs long enough for Sam to convince everyone of that, he might just be able to cobble together some remnant of sanity or, failing that, dignity.

Or, the one where Sam desperately wants to invent PFLAG but Dean won't stop teaching Jack gay slurs

JACK VOICE HEY COCKSUCKERS. 

hummed low by microcomets (3.3k)

Dean pulls the Impala over at a cider barn about thirty miles out; doesn't really think about it, just sees the hokey orange lettering off the roadside and lets his hands guide the Impala off the interstate with gravel spitting under the wheels.

they get a nice day out together and dean has a gay crisis and it’s written beautifully mwah

Vena Amoris and Other Old-Fashioned Bullshit by pyrebi (3.9k)

In which angelic marriage bonds are apparently stupidly easy to trigger, Cas wages multidimensional war in Heaven, Dean can't catch a break like ever, Sam rather enjoys being a dick, love saves the day, and nobody consummates anything.

sometimes i think about this fic and it hits that at this point dean and cas would have been married for more than a year. cas my beloved...

an exploration of gender; angelic by sometimeswelose (4k)

Castiel's true form is made of electromagnetic radiation. He has spent the majority of his life, if you really want to add it all up and average the whole thing out, as a wavelength of celestial intent.

The thing about being made of light: it's light in the physics sense of the word. Castiel's waves are gamma, x-ray, micro, and radio. He's visible light too, of course, a visible light so intense that it is blinding to most humans.

hello trans cas community <3 he’s literally trans he was assigned genderless and then went hm actually i will be a man! love of my life

Some Boys are Sleeping Alone by prosopopeya (4.2k)

This isn't something that's okay, not for him, but it chases him through the years until it turns into something he can't -- doesn't want to deny. 

ohhh deans tenuous relationship with his sexuality my beloved...

love. worship. consummation. consumption. by redeyedwrath (4.3k)

ConsumehimNatural (copyright marcusantonius) the Series!

These are all snapshots centered around the idea of you know. Hunger in Supernatural. Both carnal hunger and other kinds. Fics are shown in semi-chronological order but this series is generally nebulously early seasons.

for ANYONE who is a consumehimnaturual this is required reading it is INCREDIBLE and gorgeous and very visceral and i am so very obsessed with it. thank you redeyedwrath for enabling my brainrot

the reach of human sense by perilously (4.5k)

“You know what Jimmy Novak looked like. You think he was beautiful—gorgeous, hot, all of it. It’s him. Not me. This isn’t my face.”

“But,” Dean says. He doesn’t know where he’s going with it. Just that Cas’ face is right there, brows drawn together and cheekbones gleaming in the lamplight. It’s a face that’s made his heart skip probably a couple hundred beats collectively since they met.

And it used to belong to someone else.

this one is just very nice <3 cas gets uncomfortable w dean calling him attractive since dean has never seen his trueform and they work it out

Down in the River by Ias (4.7k)

Alone in Purgatory and hunted by Leviathans, Castiel finds himself praying to the one person who can't hear him.

cas i love you <3 cas alone in purgatory praying to dean bc dean is the only thing he still worships i love you so much

Creature of Habit by trinityofone (5.1k)

The more you love someone, the more you want to kill them. Or: How Cas developed some bad habits, and Dean coped surprisingly well.

written in s5 when cas was depowered and completely nails the later seasons bitchy husbands dynamic it’s very good and fun <3

sink by crackers4jenn (5.4k)

"Where to?" A 9.06 coda.

very bittersweet very well written and also canon compliant so do not go into this one looking for a happy ending but i DO recommend it it’s very good

Sensational by castiowl (6.1k)

“When I first came to earth, it was advised that we temper the senses bound to our vessels. They were a distraction, we were told. An antiquated form of experiencing existence that would hinder our ability to complete our missions, whatever that may be. My true form can better facilitate these experiences. What you would recognize as heightened senses of sight and sound, among other things.”

Or, how Dean helps Cas experience all five human senses for the first time in one night.

early seasons deancas man. i love the sound part i love dean being so worried about doing a good job with this. god. read this please

Something to Protect by Sass_Master (6.2k)

Dean’s violent reaction to being unexpectedly woken has become something of a running joke among them, but Castiel can’t help but look past it to the underlying cause. It makes him ache to think that Dean feels so unsafe, so persecuted, before he’s even fully conscious.

Secretly, Castiel has been determined to work on that, to ease Dean into awareness in a less jarring way, smooth away one of the many stresses that follow him even in sleep. Now’s as good a time as any to try.

oh to sleep more soundly in the presence of someone you love...this fic is very nice i enjoyed it a lot

all this and heaven too by ftmsteverogers (7k)

“Hey,” Dean said. “I’m not ashamed of you, okay?”

Cas raised skeptical eyes to meet his.

“I mean it,” Dean insisted.

“I understand you mean it,” Cas said. “But I don’t think it’s any better if you’re only ashamed of yourself.”

hello trans dean community here is 7k of trans dean having to deal with his internalized homophobia now that he’s sleeping with cas <3 it is SO good

The wilderness. by orange_crushed (8k)

He takes a shower and the pressure is not especially good, but it doesn’t matter. It’s warm and he stands under the spray a long time. Human skin, he knows, constantly renews itself, shedding the dead cells of the epidermis. He wonders how long it will take until he is an entirely new person, until every cell on his surface is a new one. He looks at his hands under the water. It might take less than a month.

this might be the only post 9x03 fic on here with a happy ending actually? plenty of good melancholy leading up to it though <3 canon divergent after 9x03 though which means no 9x06 fanfiction gap but it is absolutely worth reading

till the juice runs by deathbanjo (8.4k)

Apparently whoever drew up the venn diagram of Dean’s sex life decided the circle labelled ‘good sex’ and the one labelled ‘sex with men’ should be kept far apart.

hello this one is SO funny dean finally gets comfortable enough with his bisexuality to start having sex with men and it goes so very bad every time so sorry about your shitty choices beloved </3

First Date by aeli_kindara (8.9k)

“We should go on a date. You and me.”

Castiel wishes he could see Dean’s face. He wishes he had any idea what to say.

“I’m asking you out, Cas.”

this one is very sweet i liked it a lot <3 good refreshing little fic where they just get to have a nice evening together

Entertaining Strangers by cadignan (9k)

Dean settles on to his side, lying in the bed facing Castiel. “So you had sex without me and you bit all my moves. I think I deserve to hear about it, at least. What was her name?”

op im in love with you. premise is established relationship deancas and cas mentions he did have sex before dean and not only that it was a threesome. good for him <3 this fic is cas describing the story of what led up to the threesome and what happened during it while dean interrupts regularly. incredible

the shape you take by noviembre (10k)

“What?” Dean says, fake-offended. “I’d be hot as a girl, you know I would.”

And this is when he really, really should have stopped talking. When he shouldn't have whipped back around and asked, “Cas, if I was a woman, you’d fuck me, right?”

Because if he hadn’t said that, then he wouldn’t have had to deal with this:

Cas, meeting his eyes, forehead wrinkles all smoothed out like there’s nothing to be confused about anymore. Cas with something at the corner of his mouth that might barely be called a smile.

Cas saying, calmly and without hesitation, “Yes, Dean.”

--

Dean Winchester fucks around and, with the inadvertent help of some witches, Finds Out.

dean winchester your gender is diabolical. this fic is insane and its the only thing that matters actually. dean fully convinced its normal and straight to think about being a woman so you can fuck your male friend. incredible. op im proposing to you

Sinnerman by a_good_soldier (10k)

Dean listens to Nina Simone, reads Anne Carson, and makes out with a dude (sort of).

yall want to read about dean realizing he’s in love with a man as a direct result of learning to better respect women right?

you’re fooling yourself by cowboydeanwinchester (13k)

Dean Winchester and Castiel retire from hunting to raise baby Jack. Dean struggles to allow himself the things he truly wants.

Jack is two, Castiel and Dean are idiots, and Sam's gotta solve everyone's problems.

love a married couple who doesn’t know they’re married <3 everyone say thank you sam for bullying dean 

The Girlfriend Experience by rageprufrock (15k)

While it's not like Dean hasn't had a couple of truly regrettable hit-and-runs in his sexual history, this is probably the saddest fucking thing that has ever happened to him.

a classic for good fucking reason. we’ve all talked about dean thinking holding hands is too gay after having just had gay sex but my personal favorite was sam accusing dean of cheating on cas because dean bought condoms. incredible

No Kingdom To Come by domesticadventures (16k)

“We should fuck,” Dean says.

Cas looks up from where he sits on his bed, hair still damp from the shower, frowning as he places a finger on the page of his book to mark where he left off.

There are a million things Cas could say here; Dean has rehearsed them. After lunch, his restlessness had given way to a vague panic, a dread that matched his every step and crept along with him from room to room. Eventually, he had returned to his bedroom and spent the rest of the afternoon pacing back and forth, playing out all the possible scenarios. When Cas asks him Why? or Are you being serious? or when he sighs and says, in that way he has, Dean, he knows exactly what he’s going to do. He’s going to shrug casually, like he isn’t invested in the answer, like he isn’t desperate for an outlet, and say, Why not? He’s going to raise an eyebrow and say, What, are you not interested? He’s going to crowd into Cas’ personal space, he’s going to shove himself right up in there and whisper Cas against his ear.

Instead, Cas says, carefully, “Okay.”

literally the only quarantine fic i’ve ever bothered to read in any fandom and completely worth it it’s SO good. they become fwb and dean has an existential crisis and he keeps bringing up meaninglessness and death during sex

Bodies by Speary (18k)

It was a secret they never acknowledged even with each other. It would change everything, end everything if either of them ever dropped the act. So they became very good at acting, at keeping up the lie that gave them what they wanted. Even if that lie involved constantly seeking out temporary, consenting female vessels, Cas would do it. He told himself it was worth it for Dean. He just hoped that he could stop wanting more, or maybe one day Dean might stop pretending that he wasn't really sleeping with Cas every time.

i don’t even have anything to add tbh if that summary did not immediately make you click we are very different this fic is incredible. god. fellas do you ever make yourself a woman so you can fuck the man you love without him having to talk about it or confront his sexuality

it’s such a mystery (the way you know me) by fleeceframe (20k)

So the man crouching in front of Castiel is named Dean. He wonders if that’s supposed to mean something to him.

“Cas must’ve got hit with something earlier. He just dropped like a sack of fucking potatoes a minute ago. By the time I was checking on him, he had already woken up again, but now he doesn’t fucking know who we are.”

“I’m right here you know,” Castiel says testily.

Sam’s eyes are wide even as his eyebrows are furrowed, and he looks between Dean and Castiel again.

“What do you remember, Cas?”

“Firstly, that I’m not Cas. I don’t know who Cas is, but it’s not me. I don’t know who either of you are, either."

or the one where castiel is hit with a memory curse that makes him forget the winchester brothers and is stunned to find out he has a family... also why can't he stop thinking about dean?

BEST amnesia fic oh my god. cas my beloved you deserve the world. everyone read this that is not a request.

More Than Ever by Sass_Master (20k)

Dean’s getting some pancakes together for breakfast when Cas saunters in after a run.

He’s trying to focus on whisking batter, unfairly distracted by Cas a few feet away, breathing heavily and shining with perspiration. Dean’s been painfully aware for a long time that Cas is pretty easy on the eyes, but he’s used to seeing Cas buttoned-up and unflappable, looking straight-laced in a stiff oxford and an unflattering trenchcoat.

Now Cas is sweating, Dean’s borrowed t-shirt clinging to his skin, flushed from exertion and Dean really can’t deal with that in his kitchen right now.

this entire series is really good i enjoyed it a lot, i’m just putting this one specifically on the list bc the rest of the series is very explicit and this is really good as a standalone for anyone who wouldn’t be into the rest of the series!!

Being Dean Winchester by Anonymous (20k)

"You should show me some respect. I dragged you out of hell. I can throw you back in."

Who the fuck was this bitchy "warrior of God" doing talking to him like that? Fuck Cas-tee-el and his dumbass trench coat and abrasive motherfucking attitude.

Dean was done with this shit.

***

Wherein a monster of the week steals the essence of Castiel's vessel, so he must use Dean, recently raised from hell, as a vessel instead.

it is at this point i realize that there are more fics than i expected there to be on this list that involves a threesome with only two people/using the presence of a female body to act like what’s happening is heterosexual. deangirlism is a disease 

I Shall Not Want by domesticadventures (20k)

His grace is burning out, and the wasteland it leaves inside him becomes an echo chamber for all the memories, all the fear and doubt and self-loathing he's collected over the years. Things said and done hound him on endless repeat until he's convinced they’ll break through his skin and fill the silence of the bunker.

His head is killing him, and he sits hunched over an open book, not really reading, just digging his fingers into his skull and praying nothing slips through the cracks.

this one is GORGEOUS i love it so so much. dean and cas are both struggling so much to get by and they’re trying to support each other but fucking it up and they have to grow together and learn to cope with the fact that this is where their lives are and they fall in love i need everyone to read this

To Boldly Go by 8daysuntiltheapocalypseiguess (24k)

Title: Just One of Those Things Author: Impala67 Series: TOS Rating: M Summary: Four years into their five-year mission, and all the planets start to look the same.

In which Dean is not Gene Roddenberry, but he does write Star Trek fanfiction.

mx winchester writing star trek fanfiction to process his own trauma <3 this is a wip but it’s SO good and i also have not consumed a single piece of star trek media so it IS definitely readable to anyone who isn’t a star trek fan. please read this

where the weeds take root by deathbanjo (30k)

“Are you happy? Y’know. Just—being here,” Dean says, gesturing to the yard with his beer bottle. “Being with—I mean, you used to fight in celestial wars and—and save the world. Now you’re growing vegetables and talking about chickens.”

this is on here just for the 1.5 people who were putting off this one like i did for no reason. it’s extremely good and it is just gentle. i enjoyed it a lot

Heroes for Ghosts by pantheon_of_discord (42k)

After Sam and Dean are arrested, Castiel is left alone and scrambling to find them. He knows they’re locked away in a government facility, and he’s still able to hear their prayers, but no matter how he tries Castiel can’t seem to track them. He chases leads and even attempts to hunt on his own, but Mary is AWOL, Crowley refuses to help, and Castiel’s options are running out.

Weeks pass, Castiel’s hope dwindles, and through it all Dean prays, keeping them connected. His voice is comforting, frustrating, and occasionally annoying, but in his solitude Castiel comes to cherish it. But then one day, without warning, Dean stops praying, and Castiel is forced to confront some uncomfortable truths about his feelings.

yall ever wonder what it would’ve been like if the sam and dean arrest storyline in s12 was interesting? yeah <3

Teaching Poetry to Fish by aeli_kindara (52k)

In which Castiel teaches poetry to fish. Also, himself. Also, eventually, Dean.

(A series-long story, diverging slightly from canon after S14.)

cas learning about humanity through poetry before dean and thats what led to him developing enough emotion to be lobotomized....cas i love you so much

Emergence by ellispark (58k)

Something’s been missing from Dean’s life for the past three years, a void left after a hunt gone terribly wrong. He often feels a sense of longing with no discernible cause, a need to talk to someone who isn’t there.

A call from an acquaintance leads Dean to James Novak, a man who disappeared more than a decade ago, and suddenly Dean gets the feeling he’s found what he’s been missing. But James isn’t really James — he’s the angel Castiel, who’s wanted by angels, demons and hunters alike. And he may be at the center of the storm that wrecked Dean’s life all those years ago.

another cool amnesia fic!! for unknown reasons everyone forgot cas three years ago but cas didn’t forget anything. cas deserves so much love and support. god

a turn of the earth by microcomets (95k)

Dean’s your typical half-orphaned, monster-killing 22-year-old until a trenchcoated stranger crashes into his back windshield one September night, claiming he’s an angel that knows him from the future and that he’s on the run.

Frigging fantastic.

(Or, in which Castiel gets stuck in Dean’s timeline preseries and Dean kind of hates it—until he doesn’t.)

cas getting to meet and fall in love with pre hell dean just as much as he loves the dean he already knows oh my GOD. i love this fic so much. turn of the earth my beloved

Crossing Lines by sometimeswelose (122k)

Two Deans, one Cas - it's not as sexy as it sounds

Or

An ethics lesson from Hell

Or

The one where Dean from the past meets Dean in the present. They're not sure they like each other very much.

deans intense self hatred vs cas’ unwavering love for every version of dean oh my GOD also this is a wip fair warning but it’s so worth waiting for updates i’m having such a great time with this one i cannot wait to see how it gets ended

Plot Holes by saltyfeathers (160k)

Of course it wasn’t over after the apocalypse.

There was season six. Then there was season seven. Against all expectations, there was season eight. There were the alphas and purgatory, and then the Leviathans, and then the angels fell. Enter season nine. Loose threads Metatron, Abaddon, and Crowley have to be tied up. Sam, Dean, and Cas have to try to tie them while at the same time dealing with their evolving relationships and newfound graceless states.

Amidst all the chaos, someone has started publishing the Supernatural novels again. Convinced there’s something amiss in the pages, Charlie starts her own quest to suss out the truth behind the Winchester Gospels.

With the help of various faces, old and new, they must now not only deal with the typical runs of demons and recently fallen angels, but also reconcile the battles raging inside themselves, as the fate of the world, once again, quite literally lays in the palm of their hands.

saltyfeathers said i WILL make the plot holes in this show mean something because the showrunners are sure as shit never gonna adress them ! and i thank them for it bc this was a really cool read

Casefic/Roadtrip Fic

Deprived Of Every Planet by KelpietheThundergod (9k)

Dean's breathing is audible in the scant space between them, irregular. The motel room is dark, pale blue shadows falling in through the gaps in the blinds. Throwing a pattern of uneven white stripes over the bunched up covers. Over Dean's fingers twisted in the sheets. One half of him in shadow, softened by the dark. The heat of his skin. The tremble of him under Castiel's touch.

He caresses a hand over Dean's chest, slowly. Dean's mouth falls open, his body arching into Castiel's touch. Castiel stops over Dean's heart. Through the fever of his desire, he rejoices about the wonder of experiencing another's heartbeat through one's own senses.

Dean gasps, but then he turns his face away and towards the dark. Eyes closed tight and brows furrowed like something is hurting him.

Castiel stills.

“Dean?”

the case is background on this one but it Does take place over the course of a case so im putting it here. god touchstarved dean trying so hard to work through his shit for cas head in my hands i love this fic so much

before and after breakfast by spocklee (10k)

The monster of the week is a ghost who hates meat, alcohol, and feeling yourself. Guess who it is during the commercials.

chapter 2 of this one.....god. dean and cas you are both so unwell <3 i love everything abt this fic everyone read it now

we shovel all the ashes out by xylodemon (15k)

Dean’s always known things were headed this way. He just figured getting dragged under would be cleaner and easier than jumping in feet-first.

fics that make you go Oh they love each other...also there’s lesbians in it literally what else could you want.

thunder road by dothraki_shieldmaiden (20k)

After Chuck is defeated and the Winchesters settle into life without God, Dean Winchester is bored.

OR: Dean and Cas take a road trip and figure out some stuff along the way.

this fic is just like. it’s kind! this fic is kind it’s just a pleasant experience and i enjoyed it thoroughly. they’re in love and it’s good

Suck It, Judy Garland by GlitterDwarf, midrashic (20k)

It had to be St. Louis. Or, the one where Sam and Cas get fake married for a case, and Dean loses his mind.

actually im gonna defend dean here imagine youre dean and cas gives what definitely sounded like a deathbed love confession while making eye contact with you and then immediately afterwards fake dates your brother. who among us would not have been a bitch about this

best friends without benefits by lizbobjones (20k)

It’s nearing three a.m. and they’ve been on the road a long time. Sam’s been asleep in the back seat since eleven. Giving up and handing the wheel over to Cas and letting the guy who doesn’t sleep drive had seemed like a good idea.

the premise of this fic is so funny. cas voice dean you want to fuck me so bad it makes you look stupid. everyone read this

the taste of gravel in the mouth by deathbanjo (22k)

This is what Cas gave up Heaven for: greasy diner food, shitty motel rooms with even shittier cable, long car rides spent in complete silence except for the same six tapes playing over and over again, and a burnt-out husk of a man who can barely hold a conversation anymore.

alt version of getting rid of the mark of cain, the darkness never happens. this one is VERY heavy but it’s so good and it has a hopeful ending. ive read this one twice and loved it both times

Someone Who’s Feeling For Me by ellispark (45k)

Dean sees her for the first time in nearly six years in some no-name town in Idaho, and it's panic at first sight.

Lisa Braeden, the one woman Dean ever actually had a shot at a real life with, back from where he buried her in his mind. And her hand is on Cas's arm like it's no big deal, like it belongs there. Cas, Dean's dorky, sweet, badass, angelic best friend, and he's just standing there next to Lisa and not moving her hand away.

Dean feels the jealousy rising, and it's not directed where he expected it to be. Because it takes this exact moment for Dean to realize he's in love with his best friend. He's in love with his best friend, and Lisa is looking at Cas like he's the best thing since automatic rifles, and Dean is utterly fucked.

hello op please contact me. please contact me and let me see the inside of your brain. this fic was an unparalleled experience and everyone should also go through it. i love it so very much

Bumper Cars by mansikka (111k)

Two teenagers are missing from an abandoned carnival, and there’s enough to raise suspicion that their disappearance involves a ghost. Dean, Sam, and Cas arrive in town to investigate, though what they find leads them away from those teenagers, and on the trail of a ghost story that churns up things from their past.

Can newly-human Cas, and Dean, with the help of shipper!Sam, work out the mystery behind the abandoned carnival and its ghost, and along the way, figure out the riddle that is them?

one of my absolute fav case fics it forces dean to confront some aspects of johns parenting and work through some shit and also him and cas fall in love and it’s really well done. love this one a lot <3

Finale Fix-its/Finale Denial

Sorry Jimmy by K_K_TiBal (2.1k)

Based on the tumblr textpost:

jellydeans: so are cas and jimmy novak just up in heaven existing at the same time katebushstandean: #jimmy moves to heaven timbuku so that dean stops trying to make out with him every time they run into each other at the heaven grocery store

this one is just extremely funny. local midwestern heterosexual man is forced to play relationship counselor to the dumbest gay people in existence because one of them wore his face

Dean Winchester Really Needs To Make Some Gay Friends by AreYouReady (2.2k)

“Like, I’m trying to think if I’ve had, I don’t know, crushes. If I ever had a gay thing before you came along and just didn’t notice,” Dean said.

Cas suddenly looked down, and away from Dean. If Dean didn’t know better, he would swear Cas looked guilty.

“What is it, Cas?”

“You have had several… gay things before.” Cas still wouldn’t look at him.

“What? When? How come you know this better than I do?”

There was no way the answer to this question wasn’t funny as hell.

dean learning about gay ppl via the memories of dean smith...incredible.

tiny difference (between ending and starting to begin) by sunforgrace (2.4k)

Sometimes Dean catches Cas staring at the sky.

It doesn’t happen often. Not when Dean’s around to tell, anyway. But often enough that he starts to notice.

Eventually Dean starts to recognize the pattern.

Cas just doesn’t watch the sky. He watches the birds.

Chuck is gone, Cas is human, and the world is safe. In the quiet aftermath Dean and Castiel find each other again.

i really don’t have much to say abt this one it is just very good and they love each other so much

Bring Home by cenotaphy (3.8k)

Dean's phone doesn't ring on the drive back to the Bunker, but that's okay. Because—well, maybe Cas lost his cell, what with getting shuffled back and forth between a cosmic void dimension and all. And anyway, Dean doesn't want this conversation to happen over the phone, he wants to—he wants to talk to Cas face-to-face. They should talk face-to-face.

Dean will tell him—

Dean doesn't know what he'll tell Cas. Dean is, in fact, terrified by how utterly and completely he does not know what he'll say to Cas.

cas being forced to face the consequences of sending the risky text that was despair <3

dean’s coworkers vs the heteronormative agenda by cowboydeanwinchester (4.1k)

Dean started working at a local auto repair shop in Lebanon, Kansas about a year ago. His coworkers don't know much about him. Except that he has a wife. Or maybe he doesn't. But he has a kid. Who is either a toddler or a high schooler. Who is either named Jack or Sammy. He also might have a best friend named Cas, but that also might be his wife.

Truth is nobody knows what to make of Dean.

obsessed w people not knowing a single fucking thing about dean because he talks so much and never explains anything. this fic is SO funny

Enhanced Extraction Techniques by goldenraeofsun (5.8k)

The Empty takes Meg’s shape, Samandriel’s, Duma’s, every one of the thousands of angels Cas killed up in heaven. But in the middle of lecturing Cas in the form of Balthazar, it explodes in a burst of light and sound.

Dean Winchester stands in the aftermath.

the empty playing mind games on an awake cas bc it can’t put him to sleep is a thing i like a lot and this is very very good 

Speak Silence No More by rea_sunshine (8.1k)

When Dean imagined this moment, it went like this:

Dean bursts into the Empty—guns blazing, chin high, righteous anger coursing through him. No matter what form his plans and fantasies and whiskey-drunk-whispered-promises took, he is always, always successful. When he imagined it, he was finally the hero Cas deserved.

The reality of the moment is this:

It’s fucking cold.

dean and cas STILL managing to not communicate with each other properly after the confession is so funny to me and this fic does it really well. also i like that a human being in the empty, where humans do NOT belong, had some like. consequences

my heart is a compass by lagaudiere (10k)

“There you are,” the Empty says, in Dean’s voice. It’s cold, like Dean’s eyes are cold, his expression set in contempt. It’s the expression Cas feared, he realizes, all the times he thought about saying it. Revulsion. It makes him feel sick in the way that goes beyond physical, here where there is nothing physical left.

The moment before it happened had been so sweet it covered up all the hurt. For years, Cas had been holding back those words, biting down on his tongue to keep from saying them. And now he had said it, and he knew that it was good, knew that it was worth it. But on the other side there is only this.

--

In the Empty, Cas dreams of his regrets, until someone comes looking for him.

one of thee best dean rescues cas from the empty fics out there i love the way his memories are written i love how many of them were ones that this fic came up with to give me new things to have brainworms over instead of just making me more fixated on He Watched Him Rake Leaves than i already am

killing time by orestespdf (11k)

It's been four years since Dean saved Cas from the Empty and confessed his feelings in return, and in their Vermont lakehouse, the retired couple is now learning how to heal. One morning, Dean gives Cas a haircut.

(A character study of Castiel.)

perfect fic perfect fic no notes no complaints they love each other so much and now dean is giving cas a haircut and they’re spending the day together. god.

and every time we kiss, i swear i can fly by knameless (14k)

Every time, Dean tells himself it’s the last.

--

aka, twelve times dean and cas kiss.

a just boy best friends kiss for every season <3 mwah

for which no words exist by MediaWhore (14k)

'a prayer for which no words exist' // richard siken

"Dear Cas who art in my bathtub, give me the strength to be honest about how I feel. For your sake and for mine. Forgive me all the times I wasn’t in the past, all the words I should have said but didn’t. And please stay. Please stay with me when all is said and done. Amen. "

Dean rescues a newly human Cas from the Empty. That's the easy step.

mediawhore i am in LOVE with you oh my god this fic. this fic. dean taking care of cas after rescuing him dean wrapping cas in a blanket oh my GOD

swimming with the fish pond fish by februyuri (17k)

Some time between Dean bleeding out on a makeshift hook in a barn in Ohio and Sam making marshmallows on his funeral pyre, Dean was brought back to life. By Castiel. Again. Dean agreed to it if only to give Jack time to work out the glitches up top. So, now Dean’s back in the land of the living and things are ... actually good, for once.

Or, as good as they can be when demons are attacking Earth, Dean’s failing to get over why he died in the first place, and Cas is suddenly, inexplicably taking every opportunity to casually tell Dean that he loves him.

this is a wip! but it is so good and so worth the read i love it a lot and am very excited for the last chapter. it IS pretty heavy though dean has a LOT to work through

looking like a true survivor (feeling like a little kid) by courfeyrac (20k)

"Jack’s a clever kid—has been ever since he was born, maybe even before that—but Dean’s pretty sure he hasn’t figured out where they’re going yet. And Dean’s… Dean’s excited about it. He remembers planning surprises for Sammy when they were little—saving up quarters and sneaking off to the arcade the year he turned seven, or slipping a book Dean had seen Sammy admiring into his jacket before sprinting out of the store the year he turned twelve. There was only so much Dean could give him back then, hindered by lack of finances and transportation and a father who paid attention. Now, though, Dean’s got a wallet full of cash, a tank full of gas, and the freedom to give his kid the kind of birthday he deserves."

Or, it's Jack's fourth birthday, and the kid wants to go to Build-A-Bear.

EVERYONE READ THIS RIGHT NOW. that is not a request this fic undid me. oh my god. oh my god. they’re a family and they’re going to build a bear and they love each other. oh my god. also no it isn’t a baby jack fic he is 4 and he is also alcal

what’s missing is found (our souls can exhale now) by sobsicles (27k)

It's not the first time Claire has ever gone missing. It is, however, the first time Kaia panics about it. Dean's dragged into the mess, but he soon finds that it's the best thing that could have happened to him.

~~~

"But have you ever just met someone and maybe it wasn't from the first moment, maybe it was after all these other moments that meant more than you ever expected them to, and it seems like your soul just—just—" Kaia makes a helpless gesture with her hands, pushing out, and she breathes out loudly. "Like it can finally exhale. And that person isn't guaranteed to make you happy, but they're—they're important. You just know it, you can't even escape it, you can't let them go. Ever met someone like that, Dean?"

"I—" Dean halts, his mouth hanging open. He's looking at Kaia, who's looking at him, and his heart is fluttering in his throat like a caged bird aching to soar again. His mind threatens to spiral out of control, but he focuses, swallowing hard. "Yeah. Um. I—yeah, I have."

deancas AND dreamhunter we love to see it also dean DOES smoke weed with kaia and apologizes for pulling a gun on her what more could you want in a fic

Command Me To Be Well by prospopeya (28k)

Dean did a lot of thinking about when and how he would get Cas back. Months of it, actually, stretching into a year, because while Sam and Eileen were settling into their new lives, Dean was stuck. He was stuck in a faraway corner of the bunker, dark and empty and hollow, ringing with the sound of a vibrating phone.

So when he falls to his knees in that same room, exhausted, hurting, breathless, and he feels a hand on his shoulder and looks up to see Cas, he realizes that he doesn't have a single clue about what to do now. Getting Cas out had been easy--actually, it'd been the opposite of that--but the planning of it, the methodical desperation of one attempt after the other had been a familiar rhythm. It'd been soothing almost, solid, something to focus on that wasn't Cas's eyes, watery and jubilant in a way Dean hadn't ever seen that up close on anyone, let alone Cas.

And now Cas is pulling him to his feet, and Dean's stumbling, and he instinctually grabs Cas's arm, and his hand lights up with a fire that he isn't prepared for.

"Hello, Dean."

oh post despair lack of communication....oh dean refusing to work through his feelings...this fic is incredible i love it everyone who enjoys dean doing everything in his power to avoid talking about feelings up to and including having sex with the guy who’s in love with him multiple times should read this

break the skin (to break the barriers) by sobsicles (29k)

The first time she meets him, he's nothing more than an almost-missed appointment.

SOBSICLES TATTOO FIC MY BELOVED. dean grieving and getting tattoos and it turns into tattoo therapy. im SO in love with mitzi it’s insane. requires some suspension of disbelief for how long a tattoo takes but it’s an incredible fic and an unparalleled experience. sobsicles does not miss

ascend by quiettewandering (53k)

Something in the world is wrong.

Demon activity is rising where mysterious black substance oozes and unusual ecological events are shaking the world. Dean, grief hanging on his shoulders, restlessly searches for answers that might lead him to the Empty… and to Cas.

But what Chuck wrote can’t be undone. The narrative thread pulls Dean along, forcing him to comply. Because once a story already has an ending, it can’t be rewritten.

Or can it?

SUPER cool concept i liked this a lot i’m pretty sure everyone’s read it already but just in case someone hasn’t you absolutely should

oh sooner or later it all comes down to faith by sobsicles (62k)

Getting used to Heaven is something of a marvel. It ain't perfect, and Dean thinks he'd hate it if it was, which is probably why it isn't.

~~~

"You don't understand," Dean whispers, exhaling shakily. "I know you don't, because even I don't. The instant you were gone, I wanted you back. Cas, I wanted you back. I wanted—I wanted—"

Cas stares at him, searching his face. After a moment, his own face falls slack, eyes widening just so. "Oh," he breathes out.

Dean wants to be furious that Cas has figured it out before he has—whatever it is—but he's not even that surprised. Cas knows him too well, always has, even more than Dean knows himself. He's been kicking Dean in the goddamn teeth with how deeply he understands him, even about the things Dean doesn't, ever since they first met. You don't think you deserve to be saved, that's what Cas had said. All bundled up in impossibilities and power, this being that looked at Dean Winchester and knew every single inch of him, as if he had a right to each part.

"What?" Dean grits out.

"I love you, too."

the ONLY heaven fic. i do not read heaven fics bc i refuse to budge in my finale denialism i refuse to read fic where it is accepted that dean dies. i was hesitant to read this but god im glad i did it was so good. literally the best possible outcome of dean dying

Endverse

final fantasy. by orange_crushed (1.9k)

“If I’d actually been born human, would I have gotten sick like everyone else? Would I be running around gnawing on the neighbors?” Castiel tilts his head up and even from here Dean can see the black ring of his pupils, wide and dark as dead stars. He’s high as fuck and he’s been loading the guns for forty-five minutes. He stares into the space where Dean is. He smiles and shows his teeth. “Maybe you’d have already put a bullet in my head.”

"This is why you don’t lead storytime anymore," Dean says. "This kind of shit."

endverse last night on earth fics are something that can be so personal actually. god

The Last Song by Moorishflower (3.5k)

The very last song is the Song of Solomon, and Castiel sings it only for Dean. Set in "The End."

this is like. pre endverse and the tone is so like. wistful? is the best word ive got? it’s gorgeous i love it but fair warning there is graphic description of like. viscera and infected wounds

to think that we could stay the same by cipherwriter (6.5k)

cas has all he needs; himself, his creation, and enough power to continue this cycle for a long time. he's fine. dean wants to take care of him anyway.

oh my GOD this one is good it’s based off the thing of how originally endverse cas was supposed to be just sitting in a room killing and resurrecting the same cockroach over and over. very bittersweet at some points i love it a lot, do not read it if youre looking for something happy though lmao

the first church at the end of the world by withbloodstainedclothingon (11k)

The angels don’t eat the brain. Only Croats do that.

this one is fucked but it’s incredible it contains very heavy and violent subject matter and cas is an Actual cult leader he doesn’t just have orgies it is SO well done and i had a great time reading it i recommend it very highly if the warnings sound like something you can stomach

Down to Agincourt by seperis (1.1 million. i know. yes it’s a wip)

There is no such thing as a guarantee when it comes to war.

The outcome's known. Why try? Return your rusty sword to battered sheath, bow your head and bend your stubborn knee. Why take the field when you cannot win the war? But Harry -- he went down to Agincourt.

PLEASE. i know the length is intimidating i KNOW it’s a very long fic but please. please read down to agincourt i am begging you. head in my HANDS this series is incredible.

Non Supernatural AUS

Long-Term Relationship by bendingsignpost (2.7k)

Castiel says, budging over to make room for Dean on the couch, “I thought we should have a serious talk about our relationship.”

Reflexively, Dean laughs.

Castiel does not.

“Uh, Cas... you know we’re not dating, right?”

look man it’s bendingsignpost okay. it’s bendingsignpost it’s good and it’s sweet and you should read it

One White Lie by komodobits (11k)

Castiel takes a deep breath and rings the doorbell. He doesn’t need to run through what he’s going to say ��� he’s already planned and edited and rehearsed it a thousand times. He is going to ask Dean Winchester out to dinner. If it’s not too forward, he’ll say, perfectly charming. You see, I’ve seen you around the neighbourhood and you always seem so earnest and I’d really like to get to know you bette— The door swings open, and Castiel panics.

He intends to excuse himself. He means to apologise and come back some other time. However, in a moment of blind fear, what comes out of his mouth instead are the words, “Could you spare a moment for Jesus Christ?”

do you ever pretend to be a jehovahs witness for months to hang out with the guy you like because you fucked up asking him out? yeah.

separate ways and sleeping dogs by sobsicles (53k)

Dean is three years sober when Cas comes back into town.

~~~

For a moment, they just stare at each other. Dean, once again, has to swallow the urge to offer to swallow something else. It's very hard to resist the gut-wrenching pull of want that hooks in his chest whenever he looks at Cas. And to think, he used to have him, used to be able to act on that want.

God, he's so fucking stupid.

Well, there's no point in kicking himself three years later for shit he can't change. He'll just sit right here and pretend that his fingers aren't twitching with the urge to reach out and touch. He can't do that anymore, and it's his own damn fault.

"Three years ago," Cas prompts.

Dean huffs a weak laugh. "Yeah. Eventful."

this fic hit me SO hard emotionally oh my god. don’t have much to say bc most of my thoughts on this fic are very personal but my god read this please

Everyone’s a Critic by Englandwouldfall (109k)

The one where uninspired chef Dean Winchester has a one night stand with the male (!) food critic who described the flavour of his garlic bread as 'closeted' and accidentally ends up dating him to try and prove that he's a kick ass chef, thank you very much.

(He may have a point about the 'closeted' thing).

this one is SO fun. dating the food critic who called your garlic bread closeted and lying about your career because you’re embarrassed and you want to redeem your food in his eyes but then you fall in love with him

Non Destiel Centric

gender? you mean that thing i have that pisses people off? by bigender dean winchester (homosexualitie) (946 words)

sam and dean paint each other's nails and dean abuses the technicalities of her gender. what more could you want? 

HELLO HE/SHE DEAN COMMUNITY oh my god the pure rush of euphoria reading this. oh my god. oh my god. 

the quiet road to a distant city by rottingbrains (1.2k)

Sam stares out the windshield again. They’re approaching a city, and she can see the lights in the distance. She’s past the danger zone, and she feels like the world around her reflects that in some way she can’t put into words- as if God is telling her that it’s okay. She did the right thing, and soon she will be past the lonely unknown and into the warm, forgiving light of acceptance. Or something. Come to think of it, the lights only look warm from far away, and she knows that the actual city will seem far less welcoming. Still. Best not to imagine the worst when it’s already going well.

required reading for transfem lesbian sam fans. fics that live in your ribcage to make your heart feel good

Four People Ruby Seduced & One She Actually Fell For (Or: Ruby's Epic Love Affair with Humanity in General and Sam in Specific) by tuesday (3.7k)

In which Ruby has a lot of sex, is not any kind of therapist that would be legal, and helps a few people out for her own reasons. (S4/S5 AU)

for everyone out there who enjoys ruby being a girlboss <3

Fractured Link by Trell (orphan_account) (5.5k)

Meg goes on, resolute despite the way Dean flinches, "He likes me. He likes me a lot, and I like him back, and that's probably good enough for both of us. But fuck me for saying so, Dean-o, he loves you, probably more than anything else on his daddy's green Earth, and you need to man up and give back what Clarence over there has been devoting to you for years."

this is meg/dean/cas which is not smth i really seek out but this was extremely good. set in s7 so it’s meg and dean and honey cas and it’s a lot of dean figuring his shit out and trying to forgive cas and i love meg a lot in this