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So she spoke, and made trial of her husband. But Odysseus, in a burst of anger, spoke to his true-hearted wife, and said: “Woman, truly this is a bitter word that thou hast spoken. Who has set my bed elsewhere? Hard would it be for one, [185] though never so skilled, unless a god himself should come and easily by his will set it in another place. But of men there is no mortal that lives, be he never so young and strong, who could easily pry it from its place, for a great token is wrought in the fashioned bed, and it was I that built it and none other.
Hom.Od.23.181-189
So everyone loves the moment of recognition between Penelope and Odysseus and how Penelope basically "forces the true Odysseus" come out with her own trick. Many believe that the recognition happens because of the detailed account of how he made the bed and how it was the secret only a few knew but in my opinion this is not 100% true.
Penelope did not recognize her husband because he analyzed their secret; she recognized him because of his reaction.
Odysseus replied "in a burst of anger". He is exaspirated, afraid, worried and surprised. That is the husband she wants to see; the husband who wants nothing else but his home, his roots and his wife. Anyone could reveal to any mortal the secret of her bed; from one of the servants till one of the gods but there is one thing no one can fake;
The GENUINE emotion. Odysseus replied so immediately and so abruptly in such a genuine emotion that left Penelope no doubt yet that this was her husband. Odysseus didn't just ask her how it is possible to move the bed; he asked her in ANGER a genuine exaspiration and disbelief. No actor or god could mimic that genuine emotion. Odysseus spent about half his time in Ithaca hiding his emotions so he would survive. At that moment of the mention of moving the imovable bed his emotions just showed.
The sign she recognized was not the information he gave her it was his heart.
#odysseus#greek mythology#the odyssey#odyssey#odypen#odysseus and penelope#recognition#odysseus bed#olive tree#olive tree bed#homer#just a homeric poem writer and enthusiast#homeric epics#homeric poems#the odyssey 1997#the odyssey 1968#tagamemnon#odysseus was severely traumatized#penelope#odysseus x penelope#katerinaaqu analyzes#katerinaa
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Odysseus playing a guitar ANGRILY at his wife
Penelope playing a violin EVEN MORE ANGRILY at her husband
#i find the image of them just YELLING AND PLAYING INSTRUMENTS so fucking funny#odysseus yeets the guitar and starts playing an electric guitar cause HE ISNT MOVING THE BED#epic the musical#musicals#epic#epic the ithaca saga#the ithaca saga#odysseus#penelope#odypen#epic!odysseus#epic!penelope
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Penelope's final gambit, you will always be famous, no matter the subtext.
#poorly drawn odyssey#the odyssey#odysseus#penelope#epic the musical#Epic's version was very sweet and very well executed (and so cathartic!)#But Odyssey Penelope is *so* done with all the bullshit at this point in the story.#Credit where it is due; at this point she's been through a lot.#And to top if all off - her own son and one of the few maids on her side are buying into this (supposed) ruse.#This cannot have been the only time someone tried to pull this trick on her either.#Its the contrast between: 'Oh you're My husband?' and 'Ohh *sureeee* you're my husband. Just like the 30 other 'Odys' before you.'#The olive tree bed trick is a great gambit because it really is the final test to verify his identity.#I'm just a sucker for couples who have a secret only they know between them I suppose!#The match each other in will and wit! They will always find each other!!!#Anyways. The Odyssey is a worthwhile read and I highly recommend it. Epic is also a great musical worth checking out.
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Over and Over Again
I didnt think I would make fanart for EPIC: The Musical but here we are :) this was for a art piece gallery!
#epic the ithaca saga#epic odysseus#epic the musical#epic penelope#epic fanart#theyre under their olive tree bed btw#idk if people notice
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how i imagine poseidon (who i believe can feel when people invoke not only his name but the ocean as well) reacted to hearing antinous plotting to kill telemachus and dump his body (parts) in the ocean
*up on olympus in apollo's infirmary*
poseidon: *recovering and enjoying peace after athena had left a day ago*
poseidon: *to himself* ahh finally some peac-
poseidon: *feels someone invoking the ocean*
poseidon: *focusing on who's saying it* who on gaia is...is that coming from ithaca...
poseidon: wait- ITHACA?!?
poseidon: *fully focuses now*
antinous: *in the ithacan palace*
antinous: cut him down into tiny pieces...
poseidon: *listening in full now* cut wh-
antinous: ...when the crown wonders where the prince is-
poseidon: the prince? yoU MEAN ODYSSEUS' SON?
antinous: only the ocean and i will know!
poseidon: *in full panic mode* OCEAN?!
poseidon: *now attempting to get out of bed in panic* HADES NO, I AM NOT INVOLVED WITH THIS I-
apollo: *coming to check on his uncle after hearing him shout*
apollo: uncle wh- *sees poseidon attempting to get out of bed*
apollo: *hurrying over to get him back in bed*
apollo: uncle calm down! you're gonna rip your stitches!
#*apollo manages to get poseidon back into bed after telling him odysseus will take care of the suitors*#poseidon: *now back in bed* how do you know?#apollo: *restitching some of poseidons chest wounds*#apollo (the god of prophecy): *looks at poseidon with a blank face*#apollo: *points to himself*#poseidon: *realises* oh#poseidon: *after a minute of letting apollo stitch him up again*#poseidon: wait so did you know odysseus was going to beat me?#apollo: *stays quiet but has a small smirk on his face*#poseidon: i hate this family#epic the musical#epic: the musical#poseidon epic#apollo epic the musical#epic ithaca saga#epic ithaca saga spoilers#the ithaca saga#ithaca saga
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“After everything you’ve done… How will you sleep at night?”
“Next to my wife.”
NO HESITATION! NOT A FUCKING LICK OF HESITATION. HE WILL. BE SLEEPING. NEXT TO. HIS WIFE.
That told YOU!
#epic spoilers#epic the musical spoilers#epic vengeance saga spoilers#epic odysseus#epic#epic the musical#epic vengeance saga#epic poseidon#SIR WHAT DID YOU THINK HED DO???#YOU GOT YOUR COMEUPPENCE#MADE YOUR BED#MUST LIE IN IT
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POV: You're Anticlea and Laertes of Ithaca and your son came back from Sparta after swearing he was just going for politics
#Now he's carving a tree bed and apparently has to race her dad? Who you may kind of have beef with? :/#...At least he seems really really fucking happy :)#Water Wife#this is about Naiad Pen btw#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#Mad memes#penelope#penelope of ithaca#odypen#odysseus#odyssey#the odyssey#tagamemnon#greek mythology#anticlea#laertes#odysseus and penelope#odysseus x penelope#odysseus/penelope#this is funny. to me#my headcanons#join me in joyous whimsey :3#epic the musical
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What if the suitors were actually smart for once and instead of, oh I don’t know, planning to kill Telemachus and do a big no-no to Penny, they actually went about their plans to woo her with logic?
Like, imagine the suitors actually taking their time and getting to know Telemachus. He’s shy at first and suspicious of their motives but eventually starts to open up to them. They learn that he wants to know how to fight, so they train with him. They learn he likes to weave, so they buy him loom and watch him, complimenting his work so much that he can’t stop smiling. He tells them he’s never been outside the palace and they take him to see the sights if his kingdom.
Telemachus learns about the suitors too. He learns of Amphinomus��� home kingdom. He hears about Eurymachus’ love for poetry. He’s there for Antinous when the man opens up about his issues with his mother.
Telemachus understands and becomes attached to all of the suitors too and now it’s less about trying to get in Penny’s good graces and now wanting to capture Telemachus’ heart.
When Odysseus comes back home, instead of seeing his palace overrun with disgusting pigs, he finds that Telemachus has turned them into quite the little lap dogs and they’ve actually started to turn Ithaca around (not that Ithaca was in shambles or anything but they help out with the kingdom in whatever ways they can).
Penny is just glad that her husband is back and they both tell Telemachus that he can choose a suitor if he so wants, they can see that he’s grown attached to them the same way the suitors have fallen in love with him.
Telemachus is too indecisive to pick one so he ends up with 108 new boyfriends.
#antimachus#epic the musical#antinous#telemachus#ancient greek#sharpwolf#odysseus#penelope#amphinomus#eurymachus#the suitors#stop rambling about Telemachus and the suitors challenge; failed#why is this rambling so sappy??#I just think it would be cute#also funny to imagine the one bed trope but real cramped
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#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#hermes x odysseus#epic odysseus#hermes#hermody#calypso#i dont like her but shes fun to draw#im not drawing her ever again tho#its 1 am i should def go to bed
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ODYDIO MODERN!AU CHAT
they so gay and my friend suggested giving Odysseus vitiligo so here we are,,
context: Odysseus is an assassin and Diomedes is a bounty hunter and they got paired up to taken down this one dangerous guy.
I didn't think it through all that much when I suggested it so if you got better ideas feel free to yap about them. I'm just having fun.
thirdly I couldn't resist the stupid assassin joke alr..
#digital art#my art#epic the musical#the iliad#diomedes#odysseus#odydio#they probably gonna have that two guys one bed trope#Odysseus still stabs Diomedes btw#he wants to kill the dude they gotta capture instead of just taking him in#the dude is Antinous
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As much as Mutiny/Thunder Bringer crushed me, of course Odysseus chose what he did. Even if we ignore Penelope for a minute (because of course he was going to choose her), Eurylochus and the rest of the men had pretty much given up on going home. "Ody, we're never gonna get to make it home, you know its true." Out of all of them, Odysseus was the only one who still had faith, who was still FIGHTING. And even after being betrayed by his men (who arguably only did so because he betrayed them first), he still tried to keep them alive! Right up until Zeus made him choose. And then it wasn't much of a choice. They'd already given up. And he had to get home.
#epic the musical#epic spoilers#thunder saga#odysseus#i need to go to bed jfc#they may have given up on going home but they still wanted so desperately to LIVE#600 men that never got to make it back home
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Waiting... Waiting...
So... This was inspired by listening to EPIC (FREAKING LOVE ALL THE ALBUMS, SO GOOD) and by @noxcheshire post of Tim being Odysseus reincarnated and Danny (maybe also reincarnated) being his Penelope (Here) so I had to turn it into a Dead Tired idea.
The song The Challenge is the main one here. (Cause I LOVE that song... along with Would You Fall In Love With Me Again)
So WHAT IF Danny IS the reincarnated Penelope, after becoming the Ghost King Danny's memories of his past life as Penelope returns and remembers how before dying/ or being reincarnated both Penelope and Odysseus promised to find each other in their new lives, no matter who they are, what new form they take, they will find each other.
So Danny/Penelope, just like before waits for their Odysseus to return to them, but also tries to find him in their new life (CW is laughing whenever Danny asks for hints and gets a 'In due time, just wait' answer, ugh Danny wants to smack CW for that)
However just like in his previous life with being in a high position of power, Danny is being pressured to marry/take a spouse (now its not just men/males though so its a huge headache, I head canon Ghosts don't care much for gender preference) mostly by the dang eyeballs that Danny is still trying to find a way to get rid of without upsetting the Infinite Realms delicate (but slowly healing) balance even if Danny wanted nothing more than to punch all of the suitors out.
So Danny decides to play the long game again.
And waits for their Odysseus return.
Danny's wait is over when they suddenly feel the Realms shift one day, as if welcoming someone familiar home, and the same feeling Danny had when he had been Penelope and saw the storm that was sign of Odysseus coming home, Danny decides its time to bring out The Challenge once again. (CW gifted Danny a few things from his past as Penelope as a coronation gift, like Odysseus's bow (now enchanted to be unbreakable), a painting of when he was Penelope, with Telemchus, and Odysseus, and the Marriage Bed/Olive Tree, AND the Palace Odysseus made that Danny takes to being in over being at Pariah's Keep)
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Meanwhile
Tim Drake, aka Red Robin, always had strange dreams as a child.
War, Death, Monsters, Gods, Goddesses.
His dreams were more like nightmares, haunting him and he sometimes woke up in cold sweat.
He hated storms. Hated being in the water for to long. Hated how he felt both tense but also at home when around Greek heroes, as if he was afraid to 'disrespect' them (Cassie was the only one he didn't feel that way around, mostly cause they had been somewhat friends before their heroing since their parents knew each other) but also knew how to appease them should he insult them. He also had a strange hatred for the CoO with a burning passion because he felt like they were mocking real Owls.
The worst part of nightmares that always pop up are of what feels like should be his home is being invaded by unwanted guests (they aren't guests), how they are angry over trying to string a bow and shot an arrow through axes, of the terrible terrible things he hear them saying they were going to do to his loved ones (two names that keep getting muted out).
How it ends in bloodshed with echoing of begging, pleading, mercy, and screams.
However in those nightmares at the end. He also finds himself looking for something in them.
Or rather he always found someone waiting for him at the end of the nightmares. Calling him by the wrong name but it sounds just right coming from them.
The dream always ends with the person asking 'How long has it been?' and before he can answer he wakes up.
So yeah Tim has horrifying nightmares/dreams he could never explain.
And the urge to find someone. To go home to them.
It isn't until he and his friends from Young Justice are hit by a spell from Klarion (who may or may not had a visit from a certain chaos encouraging Time Keeper) and sent to a place called the Infinite Realms in the middle of their fight, that Tim is hit hard with déjà vu when he spots a certain Palace in the distance and overhears some of the 'people?' (they glow and float and some don't even look human?! where are they?) talk about how the 'King' has issued a new 'Challenge' for his 'suitors'.
A Challenge involving a bow, and axes.
And Tim, feels like he knows this all too well and needs to do it.
#danny phantom#danny fenton#crossover#dp x dc#blue rambles#danny phantom dc#writing ideas#random idea#dpxdc#dead tired#Danny is Penelope reincarnated#Tim is Odysseus reincarnated#Danny regains memories after being crowned#but gets 'courted' by 'suitors' again by the eyeballs#Tim is feeling a bit murderous when he hears the gossip#he doesn't know why yet#the urge to go to the familiar looking palace hits Tim hard#He frames it to his friends that maybe this King can help them though#Am I feral for this idea#YES#also wouldn't it be funny if like Dani is Telemchus reincarnated if we go with Dani being more like Danny's child?#Just tossing more ideas out#Most likely going to be my last DPxDC 2024 prompt lol#Tim once he decides to do the Challenge is going to be VERY murderous towards the eyeballs/suitors to LEAVE#Also Danny totally does the 'Can you move the wedding bed?' question just to make sure Tim is Odysseus#And Tim is so taken aback that he answers the same way he did the first time and doesn't realize it. It comes out like second nature.#Rants about it#And Danny just smiles at the answers
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#epic the musical memes#epic the ithaca saga#epic the musical#memes#odysseus#penelope#odypen#marriage bed#olive tree
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Last chance to post this before people stop caring about Wisdom saga ODY AND ATHENA FRIENDSHIP MEAN SM TO ME YOU DONT GET IT
#He later uses this same carpentry skills to carve the odypen wedding bed 🥹#I first saw this wooden owl gift Odysseus gave Athena in a We’ll be Fine animatic#Has not left my mind ever since#I wonder why the kid hesitated saying “mentorship#JUST ADMIT YOU LIKE THE BOY ATHENA HES INTERNALLY HOLDING BACK BE HE KNOWS YOU DONT LIKE ADMITTING FEELINGS#epic the musical#epic athena#epic the wisdom saga#fanart#epic odysseus#jorge rivera herrans#epic the musical fanart#artists on tumblr#xria art
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currently reading the odyssey and odysseus’ fatal flaw isn’t trickery or hubris, it’s his unshakable need to go snorkmimimi wherever he goes
#you all lied to me#everyone said he was this compulsive liar but he’s just a sleepy guy#he’s asleep when his men open the wind bag#he’s asleep when his men secretly kill the oxen#the first thing he does when he lands on the phaeacian island is fall asleep butt naked under a makeshift leaf blanket#he’s asleep when the phaeacians dump him on ithaca with all the treasure they gave him#he probably napped in the trojan horse too#I like to imagine that after reuniting with penelope he promptly passes out on their wedding bed#he starts softly snoring and she’s like yep that’s my husband alright#this man is doomed by siesta time#too much emphasis on his trickery and not enough on his drowsiness#starting to think you people haven’t even read the odyssey 🙄#the odyssey#odysseus#ghost speaks
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Diomedes and Odysseus having an argument about something and not talking for a few days beause of it, so naturally Odysseus goes around flirting with everything that moves (the other war commanders) just when Diomedes happens to be within sight (ever so conveniently) and then ends up in their bed (likely Menelaus') and happens to be loud enough that Diomedes hears him (his being there an entirely surprising coincidence) and so then Diomedes interrupts them to drag Odysseus away to hia own tent (which Odysseus totally did not intend to happen and was most definitely not his end goal)
#ah the wonders of toxic codependent relationships#odysseus is absolutely shameless enough to play with someone's feelings to get back into diomedes' bed#diomedes is absolutely whipped enough to interrupt someone mid-fuck to drag odysseus away#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#diomedes#diomedes of argos#odydio#dioody#odysseus x diomedes#diomedes x odysseus#the iliad#trojan war#the odyssey#epic the musical#greek mythology
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