#none of those things are romance
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nope! thatâs absolutely not âjust romance.â what iâm describing is a type of platonic relationship and interaction that i write about that a lot of people like to paint as presumptively or inherently romantic because itâs intimate or intense or whatever. romance is not an action or a happy ending and this is not about how whump has room for nonromantic relationships because itâs not diamonds and roses and happy endings this is about how whump has more room for intimacy and reliance and intense relationships that arenât presumptively romantic.
the only thing separating a romantic and platonic dynamic is the intentions and labels of the people involved. the idea that âwell itâs not fluffy and sweet so itâs not romanceâ is the takeaway from this post is baffling to me and reinforces some wild romance-centric beliefs about relationships. no, this isnât about happy ever after (and happy endings exist platonically to i promise) or diamonds and roses or whatever. itâs about media and creative communities leaving room for platonic intimacy and the comfort i as a romance repulsed aromantic person find in a community that does that more often than most others do.
being aromantic and into whump is like. shoutout to whump for being a great opportunity to engage with stories about intimacy and vulnerability and powerful emotion and physical interactions with other people and intense relationships that are not presumptively based in romance. what would i do without you.
#im genuinely baffled here#what about my post is describing romance#itâs describing intimacy and connection and intensity#and care and vulnerability#none of those things are romance#i love this post getting notes but it does mean every so often#someone says some wild stuff to me#long post
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honestly i just dont get why sometimes people get all weird about quadrants and insist theyâre unhealthy always no matter what
like yeah im not stupid i know they CAN be fucked up and can be weird and toxic but so can any romance. human romance has been toxic and fucked up for me many times. tbh if we take a step back and just look at the basic ideas of all of them i donât think any of those have to be evil and terrible necessarily
like oh no me and my boyfriend have a fun rivalry that we both like being in and both agreed to where we have fun competing with each other and talking shit and then make out! FUCK!!! thatâs horrible i would NEVER want that! i would never be guilty of forcing my boyfriend to play tetris with me over and over and insulting him the entire time
oh no my boyfriend has anxiety and i calm him down! oh god we like cuddling and talking about feelings! we both agreed we like this relationship dynamic and feel fulfilled by it! AAA SCARY!!! GET SCARED!!!
oh no sometimes my boyfriends are both annoying and i voluntarily get between that and make people be less annoying! FUCK!!!!!!!! we are going to DIVORCE!!!
#itâs cool if you donât personally want any of those things#and yeah#alternia is fucked up#big fucked up murder planet#they love insane fucked up rules that are bad for everyone#but idk i feel like all romance is kind of fucked up#and you usually always have to do an insane amount of work to make it healthy and normal lol#and none of these dynamics by necessity HAVE to be horrible#you donât HAVE to only rely on your moirail and not talk to your friends about your feelings#you donât HAVE to get fucked up with your kismesis#you donât HAVE to be a sad unfulfilled auspistice who kinda gets pushed into the relationship#if iâm thinking about the dynamics purely just as concepts#none of that shits a requirement#idk if this makes any sense to anyone else lmao#i just mean like#i donât think any of those things are uniquely terrible i guess not in any ways that human romance isnât#and people manage to have ok human romances all the time#not as often as they should lmao#but sometimes#so why not quadrants#i can get being uncomfortable with them#theyâre weird#and definitely more complex than i went into in the post#but i donât think theyâre uniquely terrible
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wait there's seriously only THREE "keep" choices for veilguard... 2 from trespasser specifically and then who the inquisitor romanced... bioware loves being like "in our games your choices have consequences and shape the world around you" and then the conses do not quence whatsoever
#so like 95% of the stuff we did in inquisition did not matter.... okay#nothing about the well?? or KIERAN when morrigan is in the game??? nothing about siding with mages or templars??#even with choices from dao and da2 like so if we even get cameos from companions from those will they just not mention anything like#and the explanation that âwell we're removed from southern thedas now they're very different yadda yaâ is bullshit#like yay morrigan but if she was romanced by the warden and/or had old god kieran it just doesnt come up at all??#and if any past companions have cameos will they just not mention anything? no mention of romance or any details...#this just pissed me off so bad as someone who loves the keep and seeing past choices show up again#just did a whole new playthrough for this game specifically but none of it matters like okay awesome#and im not gonna say anything about the prioritization of s********n bc things will get nasty#the epic highs and lows of being a dragon age fan#da4 spoilers#datv spoilers#.txt
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Before we call anon rude because letâs see it from their perspective, imagine getting an entire feast to eat. That can be pretty hard to start with so much thatâs going on, but if they start with one thing they know theyâll like (aka one character they like) that can be the start for them leaping to other characters to finish the story and the bigger story. I struggle the same way to start book series if I donât have at least one character that drives me to read it, itâs all about what can be the hook to push them through. Sounds like the anon is neurodivergent (just a guess) so they might genuinely not see it as rude and see it as a solution to even play the game to start with.
Btw absolutely adore the game, the complex and rich characters making them all so unique is amazing. The art is so pleasing to the eyes I love it!! Iâm waiting for it all to get out at once so I donât get too impatient. Shae however interests me the most, which routes will have the most lore for them? Will there be routes that give more lore in general based on decisions you make or do they all share the same amount? (I mean general lore not just Shae lore)
Apologies; we are not trying to accuse any asker of being rude! We are simply explaining our perspective as the developers / are trying to broadly encourage folks to dip their toes into other areas of the story outside of the main route(s) they're interested in, especially considering some routes will be made available sooner than others, and these other routes will likely contain additional scenes/lore of everyone's fave(s) regardless! We want to give each main cast member an equal amount of love (and lore) regardless of their overall popularity, so our goal is not to tut-tut anyone for having strong preferences for one character over the others, but rather to explain that you may be surprised by how much *more* you learn about your preferred characters in the other routes. That's all!
For Shae... Well, they were a foot soldier for one of the worst periods of the War. Lore wise, any other story that touches on the War will likely have content relevant to them and their experiences. ^^
#ask#clotho answers#edit/final note: we got a *few* asks on this subject and will not likely answer all of them for the sake of our followers' dashboards#but we also want to note that part of our encouragements here come from the fact that Flan/Keagan are our most popular characters by a lot#and we want to do what we can to gently nudge folks who may not want to romance the fem / nb characters into checking out their stories#despite not being into them romantically. this is half of why we have platonic routes to begin with#we recognize veterans to the dating sim world may feel less inclined to romance characters that don't align with their irl orientations#this isn't a bad thing. some people steer clear of dating sims altogether because they're aro or just not interested in romance stories etc#but the unintentional side effect of this is it has a chilling effect on developers even in the indie sphere to make less diverse stories#if Flan and Keagan are our most popular characters then they will be our most *profitable* characters in the long run#and as much as we would love to not care about money and just produce the story we want to tell#we live in a society (tm) and need to eat#if at the end of ndm's development we see that 90% of our engagement went toward the boys it is hard to ignore the financial incentive#to redirect our energy toward leaning into the 'tried and true' formula that assures we can buy groceries and make rent#basically what i am candidly saying here is capitalism is pretty bad for creative liberty unless you're already rich / able to self finance#which we are not. and currently none of the core devs make *anything* from ndm#it would be nice if it does turn a profit but that isn't a guarantee - which the team has accepted as a normal risk in game development#anyway this is getting rambly but the Point is that this goes beyond us wanting to make sure all sides of our story are equally appreciated#it is *partly* that - we do want players to experience the entirety of our artwork#but it's not just for our egos - it's so we can keep making art like this#i considered including this in the body of the post but money talk suuucks man#and i don't want anyone to think we're glaring at them in a holier than thou 'ah-ha! you don't want to play maeve's route because she's a#woman!' sort of way because i think that's a reductive way to look at things#people like what they like and there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that#but if you like that we're making a diverse story#with masc routes fem routes and nb routes#even if you don't personally want to romance x or y#it would help us if y'all play the platonic routes#we are trying our very very best to make the fem/nb routes interesting for Everyone so those stories don't get sidelined#and if you don't like them for their own sake - fair enough! can't win em all and we'll deeply appreciate that you tried anyway!
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I remember a long time ago you mentioned you hadn't really had any ships in campaign 3, which was a little odd for you. I'm wondering if you ever found any relationships romantic or otherwise that you've liked or feel yourself coming around to liking?
I'm still pretty neutral on everything! Most of the dynamics I like aren't really romantic. I am a fan of most of the relationship dynamics from a non-romantic lens for the most part, but when it comes down to romance, there's still stuff missing for me to really feel connected to it. Which is still kind of shocking to me but that's where we are!
#honestly a lot of it is that the parts of the romance dynamics that i do find interesting#kind of get swept under the rug pretty quickly#there is a very delicate balance in my head#like the angst to fluff ratio lol#that a ship has to hit for me to be really into it#it just also feels like none of them really KNOW each other still which is maybe a weird thing to say#but i don't really know how else to describe it#they all know each other on a superficial level#but there haven't been a lot of in depth one on one conversations that make me go#oh those two REALLY understand each other#even from a level of friendship#and that's another part of the ratio that i need to get really into it i think#and a lot of the romance dynamics feel TO ME like they're trying to live up to an idealized version of themselves#that they know the other person sees#which is super fun from a more tragic dynamic but it's not really being explored from that angel if that makes sense?#fairymonk#erin answers things
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my value is not based in my sexuality or ability to provide romantic relationships
#aromanticism#aromantic#aro#ace#asexuality#asexual#aphobia tw#acephobia tw#arophobia tw#queer#LGBTQIA+#i'm so sick of seeing romance everywhere like it's some great fantastical thing#and that i should put up with people telling me that i'll be alone if i don't embrace those things#it's none of your fucking business#vent#rant#ok to reblog
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yknow what i wish i had more people i looked up to
#thinking about sempai/kouhai relationships#like genuine slightly more experienced to younger person relationships not romance#and like man i've always loved the idea of it#that if you have a little more experience you take care of and help teach those who come after#that when you're new you have people you can go to and rely on#like. american culture is So individualized that even entry level jobs expect experience its all about do it yourself#and there's no. reaching a hand out. or like i know there IS but#it's not broadly expected#in any case i've been out of school for ages and none of my jobs really even have any option for that kind of thing#which is where this frustration is coming from#like my in-person job (as opposed to my online where obv i have VERY little interaction even with coworkers)#the only other employees are two adults who've been doing this for ages#and i'm still learning how to communicate with them#and i just. i'm trying to respect them as my superiors but i don't particularly respect them as people#which feels mean but augh#our workplace doesn't give me a lot of room to like see what they're doing and learn from it anyway#i wish i had someone i respected in the admiration way you know#that i could actually see their work. in detail#so i could mimic and learn from them#and it's so childish and i'm too old to be like this#i should be a sempai to other people by now#but i'm so behind#and i'm a complete disaster at communicating with people younger than me lmao#i wish i could at least rest comfortably in my accomplishments but i have none#i wish i were someone who took good care of others but i know myself and my personality is the opposite: better at Being spoiled#and unfortunately i'm both unsuccessful and not trophy wife material#no choice but to do things on my own#if i can't have a partner to spoil me can't i at least have a close relationship with a sempai figure#parent figures don't count 'cause it just makes me feel/act more childish which is the wrong direction!#i'm gonna be embarrassed about all these texts posts later
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while the only redeeming quality of love god really is the stan joke, it does emphasize how bad mabel is at matchmaking and also how much romance sucks actually
#the end to it still feels weird!!! and going 'oh but actually its all ok!!!' in supplementary materials doesn't make it feel any better!!!!#altho hilariously that means the snadger are soulmates all along#....ok 2 there are 2 redeemable things about that ep cos it gave ford that other hilarious mabel drawing in tots#anyway robbie's actual issue is that he was a terrible boyfriend!!! and didn't respect wendy at all!!!!#he let his insecurities get in that way and he constantly felt threatened by a kid!!!! rebounding off someone else fixes none of this!!!!!#also i have soooo much beef with the northwest ep especially cos of the mabel b plot#she and her friends deserve better than this???? romance in this show sucks!!!!!!#like the a plot isnt inherently bad but what it ended up sprouting into annoys me!!!!#(also the mood of 'dipper shouldve just gotten mabel and the girls out and ran lol')#(the ep needing the 4 of them to get attacked otherwise a lot of folks wouldnt give a shit about the ghost)#anyway another reason why bill sucks is cos he ended up undoing preston's face that coward#too bad those eps are necessary just so robbie and paz are on friendlier terms with the pines#(but meanwhile a wendy ep is too much to ask for :////)#also thinking about how mabel's love crazy phase is relatively new....#one day she'll get better taste in ships#i wonder how much the disney censors were shaking at the wompers joke#cos part of them being like 'NOOOOO THATS TWO GUYS' but also like. thats a pig duct taped to a goat.#they were probably pissed at mabel having a pride sweater on tho#roadside attraction was poorly timed and having it be all about being pickup artistry kinda sucks#but its still way better than love god lol at least we have dipper and stan bonding moments and candy got a hero moment#also stan no longer being sensitive about his brand
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also uh im kind of not thinking about it much because its insane. but if everything goes right (and i mean a considerable amount of things that probably wont go as planned) but if they DO... i will have a major surgery in like two weeks
#vertical sleeve gastrectomy to be exact insert nerd emoji here#i might document a lot of whats going on with it and even take some videos honestly#not to share here other than some oversharing text posts about probably constipation LMAO#but like no one shares whats it like to be mentally ill and go thru vsg and like the process and not many people as young as me get it#feels weird calling myself young on the chronically 13 year old website#but anyone that does post about it posts for like a year and then falls off the face of the earth#genuinely there are so many youtubers that start talking about this stuff#then you find their channel three years deserted and its like man.#i sure hope this means you found better ways to spend your time#and like okay time to get sappy and corny as hell in the notes so go ahead and skip this part idk who even reads my notes hello#but basically everyones that gets this shit is like you gotta find your why#and most of them have kids or like a husband or plans to travel the world or do better at their job#and none of those things really apply to me#i kind of have the perfect storm for being fat#i dont do anything work wise that encourages any kind of movement#im chronically afraid of planes and i cant afford that shit anyways rn#also not very good at romance LOL and never want kids and my entire family is also fat barring my brother#thats not to absolve myself of any of the blame for this shit either like i know i put myself in this situation#i just think like wow my life is pretty much perfect for staying fat but i DONT WANT THAT#I want the highlight of my week to be more than eating takeout man#i want to live life instead of meal to meal to something better#idk what yet maybe jewelery piece to jewelery piece#i could do some serious kandi making while im down for the count#but i dunno man my therapist tells me that in order to feel like a person and not get tired of life i have to do people things and#participate in life yknow?#and its hard to do things like go to the gym talk to people explore fashion styles when i have this overloomingness of being fat#so i guess that could be my why? like i want to experience more of life#i want to be able to walk in a mall and look at all the stores. i want to walk in a mall period. cause it fucking hurts the way i am now#thats all to say the actual âwhyâ that i have is Goddamn it i want to be able to jump from a swing#and not break my fucking ankles
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platonic relationships can look exactly like romantic relationships and that doesnt mean that theyre not actually platonic. btw.
#my ideal partnership is a best friendship that functions like a romantic partnership#i want someone to kiss and hug and snuggle and share a bed with and be committed to forever. and i want it to be completely platonic.#because none of those things are inherently romantic! romance is a social construct!!#anyway. im aromantic and lonely. whatever.#shut up frank
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A fantasy romance could have the best characters with a beautiful story, an expertly crafted plot line, wonderful art and character design, the works. Like it could change your life it could force you to reevaluate your position, your personhood. And fans will still focus on the clear (woman) antagonist and reduce her to nothing more than "some hussy" or they'll remove the (woman) leads agency in a desperate attempt to will the plot forward
#i am a strong supporter of women antagonists in fantasy romances đȘ i dont give a shit âŒïž#free my girl she did all those things but yall r being misogynists abt it#i do not believe they could ever get between the fl and the ml#i do think however that the ml can get in between the fl and the very clearly sapphic love she has w one of her (woman) bffs#rambles#it can also have none of these and ppl will still do the same thing#i need to speak my truth#i do
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fortune doodles bc i finally got to play him recently. he's got a little crush but dw he's being So Normal About It
#martzipan#fortune#it's really really funny actually. he's got the best manners in the party#which is to say like. any manners at all. considering this setting is victorian i am preparing for us to get kicked out of so many places#nobody in the party suspects a thing in terms of either his or my Secrets about who he is lmao#the guy he's into is an artist with /Long/ black hair. he's incredibly good at what he does#however he's a bit of a perfectionist and dislikes his art because he doesn't think it's good enough#and he's another completely original character who isn't based on any pre-existing character at all. they both are :)#anyways the dm and i were GONNA softlaunch the agreed-upon romance arc#but literally all of my party members went full Yaoi Mode and started shoving them together lmao#so um. when they were gonna go to an opera. and fortune mentioned Not Having Opera Clothes#he ended up. wearing an extra suit from the artist fella's wardrobe. and he's being SO casual about it#it's REALLY funny we were gonna be so chill and then fortune's party flustered him so hard i had to break out the Laugh#it's bc none of those bitches have victorian manners#literally mid-introductory chat another party member interrupted with 'ok enough romance we need answers'#to which fortune went 'I Don't Know What You're Talking About :))))' and took a step away#he's uh. not subtle. but he's doing his best to abide by the Social Rules. aside from his intense positivity#the thing about fortune is that despite how intensely he feels this attraction he would not let himself try to pursue it#so he will politely admire from afar. and his party members will give him a heart attack
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you ever see an opinion that's soooooooooooooooooo close to getting the point and yet somehow simultaneously managed to miss it by fivety thousand light years
#'half of adam's pov is don't fight with gansey don't fight with blue. which essentially translates to don't be yourself around them.#but when it's ronan he just fights with him. bc he can be himself around ronan.'#i#like#i me#the fuck no?????????#that is not AT ALL what adam having to remind himself of that translates to????#like. the thing is. you CAN make this sentiment cute for pynch reasons. but not in That way???#adam had to remind himself of that because gansey and blue tended to approach adam's issues in a way that#made him act like an asshole#meanwhile because ronan is always being an asshole it doesn't matter that adam is shitty to him in return#if you wanna look at it from a pynch perspective why don't you talk about how even though they were so distant in dream thieves#ronan still managed to see him more clearly as to where he was mentally than gansey or blue#why don't you talk about how he knew which buttons to push to get a rise out of him but never so much to put him off or anger him completel#why don't you talk about the way he was able to help adam in a way adam would accept unlike gansey who didn't know how to offer him that#fuck off with he wasn't himself in front of gansey and blue!!!!#he was vulnerable in front of gansey and blue before he was ever vulnerable in front of ronan!!!#it's just that people are so obsessed with romance they simply cannot fathom that non-explicity romantic relationships can be as#beautiful as the romantic ones#even if it's spelled out that those relationships were equal. that none of them were above one or another#ugh
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outing myself as a rpf enjoyer but itâs extremely funny how every early days bandom fic is like âone thing you have to understand about these fags is that they smell like shitâ
#and the thing is that theyâre correct to do so#anyway yeah this is about fall out boy fic#AND#my chemical romance fic#iâm an equal opportunity rpf enjoyer#and none of those bitches showered
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not to post dragon age on main but man. i miss iron bull
#i know he's not coming back bc transphobic voice actor etc etc#but man. would love to have lived in a world where he got a veilguard cameo#like the other two members of my go to team got some role or another in the game!#ignoring the fact that theyre two of the only three from inquisition that got screen time#why cant i have all of them!#it feels wrong to have varric and dorian without big goofy 'i hit things with sword and know things' man there too#esp with the dorian/bull romance context#i just. sigh#i love veilguard for what it is but none of the characters are hitting the way those three did and i miss it
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augh ough the torment
#whyyyyy i have to have dreams like this#it could be a funny dream about dealing with alien listening devices on a beach of all places#but no we had to go down the route of unnecessary romance that i'm VERY aware i can't have#so i had to. AGAIN. because it keeps happening. tell him IN A DREAM to stop doing it and back off#and like it's my problem because i read shit as a unambiguously romantic gesture and suffer because of brain chemistry#and then have to tell him i need a boundary here and there and over there because those things are what i perceive and deem romantic#and that's what we can't have at all#it's not about having hopes. i know there's none. it's just about my stupid irrational feelings that are still there#and it takes years to move on and especially when the person who rejected you is also one of your only irl friends#and it hasn't been even a year#(reject not in a bad way it went the healthiest and kindest way possible and i don't hold anything against him at this point)#(we're fully capable of being friends. in fact it's even better to know that it's all we can be)#(it's just that i am incredibly romantically lonely and it takes a toll on me because everything makes me feel like i'm broken in some way)#if i had more social spaces maybe it wasn't like this. maybe i'd find a partner by now. but alas.#interstellarvacuumcleaner
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