#noel gallagher divorce

[lonely-soul-02]

You know how they say a picture tells a thousand words? Hmm...very obvious framing from the Sun.

Publicist Sara’s strained relationship with brother-in-law Liam was a factor in the band’s 2009 split.

Not a direct quote from Noel but I guess he must have alluded to it in the interview, or he told the journalist not to quote him on it, which is why it appears as indirect.

Until Noel denies it, I'm taking it as confirmation.

Did Sara feel that Noel wasn't prioritising her over Liam?

Did she feel Noel wasn't doing enough to protect her and the kids?

Did she make Noel choose?

Was she jealous?

Or did Sara just get sick of the constant negativity and online harassment?

Viewed through a gcest filter, did she find out something about them that made her want to divorce Noel?

So many questions...

[storyshark2005]

"...and you ain't getting half of it..." or, how Sara MacDonald is probably getting half of it.

Ok so here's an article on some interesting background/context for those following Noel and Sara's divorce.

In my fic the fictional version of Keith Schilling mentions to another character that he "likes to set precedent". (NOTE My story covers a fictitious divorce between Noel and Sara; the plot came before all this IRL life stuff blew up, it was NOT a prediction, it literally is just a coincidence, lol, I had no idea!) So I picked Schillings for the story, only because I knew that Sara's used Schillings for PR litigation stuff, as mentioned in the April 2020 Vogue article. So I wondered if they did any family law, and after googling them and doing some research, I saw that YES, in some cases, especially very high profile divorces, Keith Schilling and his firm have taken divorce cases. (Coincidently, Sara's current lawyer is a Schillings lawyer!)

THE SHAN LAMBERT CASE AND "SETTING PRECEDENT" (see article) So in real life, one of Keith's claims to fame is a case in 2002 involving a divorce between a wealthy businessman Harry Lambert, and his wife Shan Lambert. Shan didn't work, she stayed home and took care of the kids. Harry made millions from an internet news business he started. Shan hired Schillings, and asked for half of the $20 million dollars Harry earned after he sold his company in 1999. No one had yet set the precedent that an unemployed homemaker should get half of what a sole and high-income breadwinner had earned (instead of whatever a prenup dictates, etc.) and courts were already struggling with the question of what is fair. This profile on Keith states The Lambert divorce became "a landmark case as it was the first high-net-worth divorce case in which the wife received 50 per cent of the assets."

hahahahha which is now darkly funny because in this clip from Matt Morgan's podcast (likely recorded around the Will Smith-Chis Rock 'Slapgate' incident in late March 2022) Noel recounts they story of why he didn't get to go to Russell Brand’s wedding, since Sara was pregnant at the time. He jokes that Sara told him he could go with heavy implication that he totally should not go... "okay you're not pulling the old switcheroo on me, I don't care about this guy or his bride [jokingly implying she's baiting him for divorce]…but I do care about my legacy…and you ain't gettin' half of it." SO ACTUALLY SHE IS PROBABLY GETTING HALF OF IT 😬. lol, or at least half of whatever he's earned since his marriage to Sara in 2011.

[todays-just-a-daydream]

in absence of a reunion noel interview i'm going back to revisit the great gallagher thaw of late 2014/early 2015 to try to make some sense outta these strange reunion times we are in now.

i've been really curious about this time period for awhile and stockpiling posts with the intention of assembling them in some kind of chronological order. still not quite sure what i'm looking at but it's a bit like find the edge pieces of a puzzle and snapping them together for a frame. you can get a vague idea while understanding much of the pieces are missing to complete the picture. most notably noel is giving interviews at this time while liam is mostly out of the public eye entirely.

assembled them in the queue and looking at them in order now and getting a bit choked up by what we have. even factoring in the normal album press cycle, noel's interviews have noticeable outlier moments during this time. charting his uncharacteristically relaxed calm fondness to emotionally raw moments when mentioning liam, it does look like any attempt at a truce all goes south within a months time (mid february to mid march 2015). coincidence it’s when dead in the water is written and the chasing yesterday is released? of course it’s not lost on me it also is at a period of nostalgia with the 20th anniversaries of their first two albums and part of the buzz about a reunion driven by stone roses reunion. but in the course of the entire feud it sticks out as different. and suggests noel was more invested in a reconciliation than he’d ever be willing to admit.

queuing them up now. when they're done posting i'll link them to the chronological list below to access them easily.

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2014/2015 gallagher timeline

2014 february : beady eye cancels coachella gig, manager splits 21 october: "we're on good terms." 25 october: "beady eye are no longer." ?? october: "don't give up"

17 november: in the heat of the moment released (do the damage bside) 31 december: "i think liam should make a solo record"

2015 12 january: ballad of the mighty i released (revolution song bside) 4 february: "i’d write him a few songs. i've got a few songs lying around that he'd be good at singing." (also takes a dig at beady eye) 20 february: "[liam] sends me cheeky texts from time to time." (interview) 25 february: "we're alright. i'm a bit concerned that he's starting to grow facial hair....family is family, you don't have to patch it up do you?…blood is thicker than mud." (interview) 26 february: dead in the water writing 28 february: recording dead in the water live at RTÉ 2FM radio studios in dublin (after dying of the light which airs 2 march with a live interview)

2 march: chasing yesterday released 14 march: "keeping it in the family" lg tweet with nghfb pass 21 march: "you're already ruining my day talking about him" 24 march: "liam is a very angry man still and as long as he's angry we won't be friends i'm afraid" 2(?) may: "can't be arsed" + lg tweet goad 7-11 may: "busted" lg tweet (in response to AA interview)

11 may: riverman released (leave my guitar alone bside)

26 july: liam playing bold in a pub (video)

28 august: lock all the doors single (here’s a candle for your birthday cake bside)

21 september: noel wishing liam a happy birthday 5(?) december: "and maybe one day you know we will get back together" (video)

[nonogalego]

Noel and Meg exactly two weeks before their separation

Essas fotos são de Noel Gallagher e Meg Mathews na première britânica do filme The Snatch, em 23/08/2000. Abraços, mãos dadas, sorrisos e beijos em público, como qualquer casal feliz e apaixonado aparentaria ser...

Mas foi a última vez que eles foram vistos em público juntos como um casal!

No dia 06/09/2000, 2 semanas depois que essas fotos foram feitas, Noel e Meg anunciaram oficialmente a separação. O divórcio oficial aconteceu em 19/01/2001, depois de meses de brigas públicas e exposição da vida privada de Noel e Meg na imprensa!

Nunca julgue um livro pela capa e nem um casal por suas fotos públicas, certo?

[starshapedoasis]

they also lived in a hotel together after the divorces

True and real anon it’s actually crazy. I also think they both got engaged the second time around the same time too.

[cigarettesinhell]

Do you think Liam and Noel have spoken since the divorce?

Do you think Liam knew about it already?

With Noel seeming more positive than in recent years do you think Sara's negativity was the thing making him so bitter?

I’ll start with the last question if you will. I never really liked Sara, I didn’t like her behavior towards Noel, her attitude towards his work. But I never thought they would actually separate. Because Noel was always telling everyone how wonderful his wife is and how perfect and wholesome his family is. And I just used to believe it. Just because I am naïve and trustful in general. And I also believe in life-time relationships. So maybe I shouldn’t. Apparently, there were problems in their relationship. Apparently, the red flags we all have been noticing are real (a star badge for every gcest truther⭐️). So despite going through emotionally exhausting process of divorce, Noel may feel relieved.

In general I like to think that the things are better than before and everything is going towards reconciliation. When Liam says Noel has called him, I just believe him. I don’t know the truth, though. Of course, Liam could could distort real situation a bit, but I don’t think he would make up the whole thing. (He wouldn’t be allowed to do it lol). At the end of the day the ice seems to melt between the brothers (according to tweets and interviews)

And yes, of course Liam is very excited about Noel’s divorce (it’s empathy towards Noel, Schadenfreude towards Sara and HOPE towards their relationship with Noel). But did he know anything before the official announcement? I don’t think so. Surely not from Noel. But rumors, maybe.

And there is always a chance that the things are absolutely not what we see and think. There’s always a possibility that they have been communicating all that time. That Liam has already married Debbie. That Noel and Sara have been living separately for last couple of years. Neither Gallagher nor their spouses are super media personalities, so it’s a great question whether they would try to create suitable media picture, though.

[savageandwise]

Stopped to think today how isolated Noel must feel since it ended with Sara. Of course he has his kids and friends. And he can talk to Peggy. But they were a team. I imagine that's why he says he's in crisis.

[lonely-soul-02]

Liam Gallagher: “We put an offer on the table for Oasis and Noel said no.” Speaking exclusively in MOJO magazine, Liam says Noel Gallagher turned down an offer to reform Oasis for this year’s Definitely Maybe anniversary. Liam Gallagher By MOJO Staff | Published22 Minutes Ago February 16th 2024

Speaking in the new issue of MOJO magazine, Liam Gallagher has revealed that Noel Gallagher turned down an offer to reform Oasis for the forthcoming 30th anniversary of Definitely Maybe.

“Noel? He ain’t fucking doing it,” Liam tells MOJO’s Ted Kessler in this month’s MOJO cover feature.

In June, Liam Gallagher embarks on a UK arena tour to mark the anniversary of Oasis’ debut album. Noel Gallagher recently suggested on Talksport Radio that all Liam had to do was call him up to see about healing the rift that’s existed since Oasis split in 2009, but Liam claims an offer to reform was rejected by his older brother.

“I did call him! Well, my people called Noel’s management team,” reports Liam. “We put an offer on the table for an Oasis thing – because we got offered it – and he said no. It was a big tour, a lot of money. He turned it down. I get it, he’s got a divorce going down. I’ll do the Definitely Maybe thing and have a nice time without him.”

2025 will see the anniversary of Oasis’ second album Morning Glory? So perhaps Liam is holding out for a future rapprochement?

“It’s down to the universe. It’ll happen when it happens, it’s not in our hands anymore,” says Liam. “Me, I love nostalgia though. I’m doing the lot. Every album, even… what was the last one?”

Dig Out Your Soul?

“Fucking right, man! You never enjoy them the first time round, so I’ll be milking the lot. People say it’s the comfort zone – I want to be in the comfort zone! Bring me my slippers and my little blankie and put me in the comfort zone, please. Life’s stressful enough.”

Oasis: Every B-Side Ranked!

Elsewhere in MOJO’s exclusive interview with Liam and former Stone Roses guitarist John Squire, the pair discuss the origins of their new collaborative album, how The Stones Roses inspired Oasis, the injury that almost meant Squire never played guitar again and why Squire’s former outfit never recorded a third album.

[storyshark2005]

Fic - "As We Were" (Part IV, 'World That's Been and Gone' series)

Don't put your love on the run When you're starin' down the loaded gun

Part IV in the "Been and Gone" series! Liam and Noel finally (FINALLY) come together. Chapter 3 is up!! (Previous stories in the series here)

--- (TENTATIVE) posting schedule! Subject to change per my whims!

Ch1 - posted

Ch2 - posted

Ch 3 - posted

T 1/31 - Ch4

F 2/3 - Ch 5

T 2/7 - Ch 6

F 2/10 - Ch 7

T 2/14 - Ch 8

F 2/17 - Ch 9

T 2/21 - Ch 10

F 2/24 - Ch 11

T 2/28 - Ch 12

F 3/3 - Epilogue

[illeniazeepee]

Wow. So it’s really out there now. I wonder if Liam will comment 👀👀👀👀 @gallaghercest @gallaghergallagher @jeevey

[cigarettesinhell]

Meg’s today story

[storyshark2005]

“Yeah, but we’re not going for good, are we? We’re going for great.” 

There’s just enough twist and bite to Liam’s tone that Noel figures he’s having his own words quoted back to him. It vaguely rings a bell. It does sort of sound like something he’d say.

this week’s word is…

✨ TWIST ✨

find the word in any WIP and share the sentence containing it. play however you want: reply, reblog, stick it in the tags, tag us in a new post, or keep it private

[savageandwise]

Okay I guess I'm over it now. I don't know sorry for overreacting

[storyshark2005]

"As We Were" Fic Update - 10/11 up!

📖 Chapter 10 and 11 are up!

It might be another week or so before 12 and 13 are up! 12 is done but I don't want to post until 13 is finished in case I need to change anything. Sorry besties, I caught up with myself, ergh!!

So in the meantime enjoy the double update 💙 Paul and Hannah Weller are here!!!

LOOK HOW CUTE THEY ARE???!!! I WOULD DIE FOR THEM!!

[lonely-soul-02]

These are great questions. I would expect the 'working out' of these questions accounts at least partly for the 'challenging times' that Noel mentioned, and why it's all taking a while to settle. I'm sure their respective lawyers are back and forthing on this, and not at a rapid pace either, knowing what lawyers are like.

Found a family law article on it. They acknowledge that Noel and Sara's lengthy marriage would make settlement more complex. And yes, they count the period when they started cohabitating.

Do you think Sara signed a pre nuptial agreement before marrying noel?

Ahh, now that is the question isn't it. Well, I don't know. I don't think anyone does.

If there is a prenup? A while back when this was being discussed I recall reading that in the UK, a judge can over-rule a prenup if the circumstances have changed significantly since it was drawn up i.e. there are children or if the divorce would leave one party unfairly disadvantaged financially. I think this would apply to Sara, but hey, I'm no judge so take with grain of salt.

[applecherryandpears]

BBC Radio 1 - 1997: The love edition

Can't believe that so many seminal Noel & Liam quotes are from the very same interview, either Noel's life + music crisis poured it all out of him, or the good moments are just indeed that good BTS.

Naturally, they were (allegedly) drunk. Liam wasn't supposed to show up but he changed his mind last minute, my headcanon is that he missed Noel judging from how well they got along that day.

I'm very friendly to my bed, I love my bed, and my bed loves me.

(Interviewer says Liam only gets better, Noel complains Liam doesn't show up for B sides recordings, Liam says he had a sore throat, and somehow, this comes to this.)

Love-love-love. Liam twists exhibition (oasis photo thing) into expedition and Noel's bullying turns into a live fantasy of marching down the south pole wastelands together to build heart shaped igloos, also Liam's shy. And fighting for his life.

There we have it, a recorded (half) confession.

Okay so here I find the "as long as ... for a couple of quids" holds some meaning as Noel goes a little rigid saying no. Can't ever meant this. but I can't for the life of me understand Liam.

Also Liam clears out that inspiration entails for him listening and understanding him without rushing into ill-made judgments and it's palpable he's at his limits with the media. Coincidentally the day after this interview he was tracked down by journalists, asking him if he had regrets over what he said, because apparently he swore too much and had people clutch on their pearls all over the UK.

Supersonic quote but in full. Mad for it, Noel says.

I'll be a really good uncle to Liam's child.

I could sum this one up with Pardon? but -- "that man is a bigger man than I am, why, it has nothing to do with you, but he has to deal with life and with somebody like me on top of everything else" yet by the end of that year it had all gone to flames. Also audio proof they did give each other birthday presents, not lost on me this one.

Noel truly cares about Liam's opinion but won't show it (nothing new ik) However that giggle at the end has my wonders.

Bonus:

In the honour of a 2024 magazine article deeply regretting Liam's menacing aura and rock n roll attitude from 1997

And, if anyone can possibly make out what Liam says Noel is pointing his way, this one maxed out my comprehension skills: