#no thoughts just ivan

[ivanttakethis]

Stupid tragic gay man haunting my thoughts when will I be free??

[ronanxing]

we do a little silly

[katrasining]

Here's the marriage picture as a separate post cus it's so cute actually I am sobbing-

[dapperrokyuu]

Luka vs. Till is the funniest faceoff tho. Like, what is Till even gonna DO? Purebred pedigree dog vs. stray mystery mutt found in the garbage and literally 50% discounted, FJFJEKFKDKCJEJ-

[homosexualcitron]

So many theories of why Ivan did that well this is my take

[bleeding-seraphic]

when you look at the stats side by side Ivan's situation gets a lot sadder

[dreadark]

that ivan loves till is the most obvious thing about them

but. does ivan know that…?

the ivan that regards his own feelings as shallow, the ivan that learned how emotions are expressed only from copying others… does he even know that the love he’s felt for so long is love? probably not. and part of the reason is the one he loves himself

because the easiest example he has of love is till's feelings to mizi. till outright calls it love, and ivan watches him so much he has to be aware of this and till’s love to mizi is totally unselfish, right. he doesn’t seem to actually want much from her—just that she's still there and still "mizi"

but ivan can't be satisfied with just watching he… wants. ivan wants till’s attention, till’s affection—

surely this selfish wanting can’t be love

...no wonder he was never able to express his feelings straightforwardly when he belittles them so much but he can’t stand not having anything either, so he does… whatever he does instead to get any scraps of attention he can, from someone he's convinced doesn't care about him at all only showing affection when till can't see it, right until he knows he's going to die

but ivan's feelings for till are all he still has of himself... to think of them as shallow...

I've seen this translated as "I should've been kinder" to him (till) or to her (sua)

but really, the one he should've been kinder to was himself

[kalashnikovlobotomy]

guy who only draws three kinds of russias: there are three kinds of russias

[crustyfloor]

IVAN'S A FUCKING FUCKER FOR NOT EVEN CHOKING TILL PROPERLY HE WAS GENTLY HOLDING HIM IN PLACE

(it kills me because Till probably thought ivan was gonna give him one last out or something hence why he closed his eyes in what i feel like is acceptance)

[sloanslone]

I saw that you drew an Apollo and Hermes based on poses for Hyuna and Dewey and I have gotta ask your thoughts and opinion on Alien Stage! Especially the final round!!

Well I just thought that Apollo and Hermes would look cool if I use that frame from All In as ref 🩵 it's still rough though and has been rotting in my gallery for as long as I can remember but yea, don't quite think I have the motivation to finish most of my WIPs ATP(also because my art style still keeps changing since it hasn't been that long since I digitally started drawing)....😭🙏

But yea, on the topic of ALIEN STAGE, I ...

LOVE LOVE LOVE alien stage sm... @VIVINOS and @QMENG are absolute geniuses. When I first heard about this series and I heard about aliens and humans I thought it was going to be something really cliche but I was so surprised by how interested and int reading the premise was. The pet humans obey all the aliens and are there only for their sick entertainment. The pet humans rebelling against the aliens because they have the knowledge for it and they know that if Anakt was real, he would have helped them by now.... I love all of it and I wish we had more info about the characters....I absolutely adore ivantill and mizisua. But as surprising as it is I don't really hate Luka tbh...he's been abused and brain washed by heperu for too long to the point he thinks he's indebted to them...sure he gets off of other people's pain but he's also just a survivor of alien stage and a pet human at the end...

About the final round...hm... I was really upset but it makes sense honestly I don't think till stood a chance against Luka if all people is the only ever contestant who could ever rival him with votes and popularity was Ivan. But I was REALLY REALLY upset that till died after falling into Lukas mind fucking.... It's just shows how much she was haunted by Ivan's death ... But finally seeing Mizi and smiling for the first time after round six, he dies peacefully in her arms, joining Ivan and sua in a place hopefully better than Anakt Garden could ever be. Where there's no aliens, just a reunition if friends... But poor Mizi, Hyunas death is near and the only one left standing is her and fuckass Luka...

Round 7 left me with more questions and trauma then answers and closure in conclusion 😭🙏

[moonlightequin1]

R O U N D 6 / CURE (?) ♥️♠️

(finally decided to post it here as well because I need to spread the twst x alien stage au but adeuce are ivantill)

[khloxxy]

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[carpetbug]

I want more interactions! I want rose and chloe to bond over stuffed animals. I want nino and alix to pull stupid pranks on people and vandalize shit. I want kagami and nathaniel to hang out (and talk about how fun it is to draw marinette and their respective boyfriends). I want adrien and juleka to play piano and sing and make music together. I want marinette and max working together to design an entire video game. I want luka and kim to smoke weed together and have the funniest and stupidest conversation imaginable. I want ivan and alya babysitting her sisters together so he can have more experience with kids to be a stay at home dad. I want zoe and mylene to build a school garden together. yknow shit like that.

Also I want more ondine. give me more hot tall buff freckled girl right now.

[quiescentem-puella]

Till's expressing himself through clothing – a rant

today's sad alnst thought of the day is that no matter how you view round 6, I think it's undeniable that ivan was able to give back to till a piece of himself that he lost after witnessing round 5

and i'm talking about this

I think Till outfits are important when it comes to discerning his mental state/attitude, both because of plot-related reasons (imo Till has a degree of power over deciding or at least selecting his clothes) and also character design (in a media like alnst, where most things are said by showing them, it's clear that vivimeng put lots of thought behind the visuals). We know nothing about the behind-the-scenes between r6 and r7, so we can just LOOK at Till to see if something changed

I said that Till has some power over his outfit choices because he's the only one who personalizes them, or so it looks like. It's very much in Till's rebellious nature to vandalize his outfits and I think both the r2 outfit (the spray-painted t-shirt, the patch hiding his branding, the lack of shoes) and the scene we see in the top 3 video (with graffiti all over the room and paint all over him) are proof of that. He's always shown drawing and doodling, so i think it's a fair assumption that when we see that on his clothing, it's his handiwork.

And that... disappears in round 6. Whether we look at his outfit in the actual round or when he's entertaining segyeins, he's dressed in muted, dark clothing. Very put together for his previous standards, almost elegant with his delicate, silver accessories (thin chains and tasteful earrings)

Gone is the asymmetry and the rage. Till is mourning and so he dresses for a funeral... either for Mizi (who's gone and presumed(?) dead) or for himself (without Mizi, he has no reason to keep going. he entered alien stage and stayed in anakt for her). Whether he 1) chose his outfits before and let the aliens take over in his grief or 2) fought the aliens on previous outfits to personalize them and stopped after r5, i think in both cases his clothes show how much he has given up

and then we have round 7

First of all, the color is back. Acid green and white pants. The tech gear too, in place of delicate chains. The hair is slicked back, similar to the scene out of stage in r6, but it doesn't feel as tamed

and i apologize in advance for the frame i'm about to use to prove this point (only scene we see till full figure in r7) but

THE SPRAY PAINTING CAME BACK!! on the pants!! Personally I think both the red and the two stripes are Till's addition, you could argue that the blood isn't bc it's just the pants done like this but it looks handmade to me, splotchy. Very likely to be Till's hand.

So going back to my initial point: something has changed between r6 and r7. In r7, Till FIGHTS with everything he has. He doesn't let Luka speak over him, he tries his best. He falters, but he enters the stage with a spark, a determination that was notably absent in r6

I think it's significant that we get this in Mizi's pov

because Mizi RECOGNIZES Till. Not in the sense that she didn't know it was him, but in the sense that it's the Till she knew from anakt: wild, rebellious, hateful towards the system. He's raging and screaming, putting on a wild performance.

And Ivan's sacrifice is what gets him like this. It allowed him to live, of course, but if we read deeper there's also something else. In r6, it's the first time we see Ivan openly defying the segyeins. It's pretty obvious that he didn't have the love Mizi had for them and he disobeyed multiple times (running away with Till is the prime example), but he put on a façade all the time. I would say it's exactly what allows him to get away with so much: he's so well-behaved that no one suspects him. He has no leash because, in the segyeins' eyes, he never tried to escape (and he never will, bc just like Till will choose to go back to Mizi every time, Ivan will stay for Till as well).

The only times we see him rebelling is: 1) the scene on the rooftop when he was still in the slums; 2) in r6, when he defies all expectations and "cheats" so that Till wins

Ivan fell in love with Till after seeing how defiant he was. And Till regains his spark, his will to rebel, after Ivan's sacrifice, when he chooses to publicly go against the aliens for the first time since he was a child.

i've seen a lot of talk about how Ivan was Till's downfall: because Till cared much more than Ivan thought, because Luka used that moment with Ivan (and not Mizi) to bring him down. It's all true and very tragic, but I think it's really important to note something else too

Till was able to be himself again (even if just for the span of a single song) because of what Ivan did. Ivan's act of love wasn't wasted.

[ivanttakethis]

Ah yes, another reminder that Ivan suffered from the beginning of his life to the very end of it and was never loved and always felt alone and never felt worthy of anything cAN WE PLEASE TAKE A BREAK DEAR GOD

[rebouks]

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ty for the tag @zosa95 🤭💙