#nicholas / discourse.

[the-final-sif]

Dream's Response Summary

Dream posted a response to various accusations, covering just about everything ever because he was done with this shit. I've done my best to summarize it here, but I recommend going and watching his whole video. This is going to be extremely summarized for readability and I'm only going to cover stuff I consider serious so anything about speedrunning is getting skipped.

The tl:dr is: Dream never groomed anyone or had inappropriate contact with anyone underage, he provided proof that one accuser flat out lied, and the other ""accusation"" was from a third party who was never involved. The actual supposed victim released a statement that they were never groomed, nor a victim in any way, never was asked about someone sharing information about them, and wants everyone to shut the fuck up.

Police were never actually contacted, both twitter accounts were lying about doing so to make their claims seem real. Also the supposed snapchat video shown is a very obvious fake.

He covers Manatreed, the run down is the guy was a childhood best friend he grew up with and who was struggling with homelessness. Dream helped him, and never knew about the battery charge (Manatreed had lied to him about it). When Dream spoke to Manatreed's ex girlfriend, she was very clear she never wanted any of this publicly out there, that she was happy that Dream had been helping Manatreed and she wanted the best for him.

Dream still doesn't know exactly what happened with that situation, he has since lost contract with Manatreed, all he knows is he was trying to help a childhood friend and got lied to.

The first allegation from Oxy/Anastasia, he's extremely clear they only ever messaged in twitter dms and he disproves the claim about the texts/tik tok. He has a google voice number hooked up to his tik tok account for obvious reasons, and she was showing imessage texts. This is not possible, which means she was lying.

As part of this, Dream scrolls through his twitter dms and shows he responds to fans all the time and talks to people in his community from all over. He also shows how he's friends with and has hired people that were fans of his, including people like Foolish.

He discusses Amanda, the two of them messaged on instagram back when he was a much smaller creator. He showed/posted the transcript of the two of them talking about normal stuff. They had been messaging since 2020. He did attempt to post a complete transcript of those messages, but she had deleted some of her messages and he doesn't have a way to recover them.

Dream explains that Instagram has a "feature" where if you ever reply to someone, then you literally cannot remove their ability to message you without blocking them. Something I did not know about instagram and which is fucking wild.

Since he replied to her in 2020, that meant she could message him forever and her notifications would be constantly showing up for him. He attempted to delete her messages/her ability to message him back in 2021 and showed proof of this, but realized he couldn't. Dream also in doing so accidentally deleted the context to her messages that she was a fan and basically everything prior to 2021.

Since he didn't remember her (what with the prior messages deleted), she was dmnig him from her personal account without fan content on it and was talking about being a streamer, he assumed she was a smaller streamer he knew and was talking to her as such.

They were talking about music so he gave her his personal snapchat to talk and because he wanted to get some feedback on a new song he was working on. He wanted to send the song via snapchat so he could be reasonably sure it'd stay private.

Dream categorically denies any sexting with Amanda or sexual messaging at all, he goes through why she most likely did this (he had been ignoring her messages and made a new snapchat with only close friends). He also downloaded his own data (something Amanda refused to/failed to do), went through the snapchat logs and did see some messages, but never saw either of his supposed compliments to her.

Amanda claimed Dream deleted her dms and that's why she couldn't provide any of the evidence she claimed she had, but Dream showed those same DMs very clearly undeleted. The dms were never deleted and she lied as an excuse.

Amanda lied about going to the police. Dream had his lawyers file a bunch of requests, and track down the police station that she went to based on the photo. They filed every request possible for any information with this police station, and there was no record of Amanda visiting the station or any records relating to Dream whatsoever. So either she lied about filing anything, or she told a story such that the police filed literally no paperwork whatsoever about the situation. Not even a report.

Dream sent the police station a copy of his own drivers license and Amanda's information so they could contact him if anything did come up, and nothing ever did. Nothing was filed, nobody cared.

Dream got swatted several times as a result of online harassment, including his family, and the harassment was overwhelming and awful for him.

He addresses the gumball situation, he showed up to a birthday party for a friend, gumball's VA was there and kept getting aggressive with him. While on facetime with some friends, Cantu ended up hitting Dream to impress them. Dream was obviously put off by this, but at the end of the night people ended up ubering together and Dream ended up in an uber with Cantu. He thought it'd be fine since other people were involved.

Cantu dropped his phone out the window made the uber driver pull over to look for it and got in trouble with the police. The uber driver tried to talk to Cantu about handling the police in the future, and Cantu started calling the uber driver slurs and claiming the uber driver had "down syndrome".

Dream got involved, trying to defend the uber driver, and Cantu threatened to kill him and called him slurs. Later Cantu apologized and Dream wanted to forgive him. Only later, Cantu started spreading lies about him and calling him a pedophile, so Dream realized the apology wasn't sincere and called him out for his behavior.

The third party who had been filming all of this saw what Cantu was doing lying about Dream and trying to claim none of this happened. They reached out to Dream and gave him the actual video as proof of what happened. Cantu tried to threaten them out of sending Dream the video of what happened, but they ignored him and sent them anyways. Dream also had the uber driver in his video backing up what he said.

Finally, the Jamie Allegations

Jamie is a mutual friend of several people that Dream knew, she did not post the allegations, she was never contacted about any of this she made an explicit statement that she was never groomed or a victim in any way.

Dream and Jamie meet prior to Dream being a youtuber on bbh's minecraft server, they were both fans of Skeppy. Which is why Jamie was followed by Dream, Skeppy, Vurb and some other youtubers in their friend group.

Jamie is still active online and put out her own statement, the person in the screenshots never gave permission for any of this to be put out, and they are very clear that the messages were taken out of context and that the claims made are false. The person in the screens is clear Dream is not a groomer, they never accused him of that, and that the twitter account is lying.

The snapchat video shown is very obviously fake, because snapchat just magically opens itself, there's no finger or button use interacting with the screen.

The burner account never actually contacted the police, Dream records him calling to the department they claimed to contact, and the person answering is very clear they have no contact from this person.

The supposed recent document posted is a fake convo of someone using a fake twitter account to talk to "Jamie", Jamie did not talk to them and it's just fake.

All of this was incredibly damaging for Jamie, who had no idea what was going on, and was getting harassed/stalked/having her irls contact.

Dream has also faced waves of harassment over obviously fake allegations, people have just been taking them at face value. He also shows how easy it is to fake these things as I have done.

He's been swatted, harassed, his family has been swatted and harassed, he's been scared for his own safety several times. It's been awful for him, and all based on fake shit. He's not stepping back from minecraft, but he is stepping back from twitter and no longer engaging with people behaving this way.

Also his ping pong record was undefeated.

[k3ithsk0gane]

PSA:

With RWRB being a well loved and well known book and people actively watching the movie right now I think it should be said that if you didn’t like the film or didn’t like parts of the film that doesn’t give you ANY right to shit on someone who loved and adored this film and thought it was the best book to movie adaptation ever.

LET PEOPLE ENJOY WHAT THEY ENJOY

[hellsingmongrel]

/Siiigh/

I've seen more people lamenting all the horrible Vashwood shippers and their problematic "one is a teenager and one is 100 years old!" ship again, so I'm just going to say it again, and I'll CONTINUE to say it until it sinks in (which means I'll never stop, lbh)

WOLFWOOD IS AN ADULT.

In Trigun 98, he was in his late 20's. All of us oldies got started in this fandom with a ship of two grown ass adults!

Wolfwood in the manga IS AN ADULT. They started fucking with his DNA when he was a kid, yes, and it made him age more quickly, but there is literally a sidestory that shows him as a kid of around 10 years old taking care of a very young girl, and the next time you see her, she's 16 years old. HE IS WELL OVER HIS 20'S.

They haven't given us a concrete timeline in Stampede for his age yet, but given the other two versions and that they're sticking pretty close to the manga, it's safe to assume that Wolfwood. IS A FUCKING ADULT.

Stop fucking pearl-clutching and accusing us of shipping children with adults! At best it's awkward because you obviously don't know what you're talking about and at best, it's DANGEROUS. This fucking platform has gone on witchunts for less, you could be perpetuating a lie that is going to get people harassed and doxed if enough people who don't know the source material get their panties in a bunch!

VASHWOOD IS NOT. A PEDO SHIP. FULL STOP. CUT IT OUT. STOP DOING THE THING. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

[postilikes]

About the RWRB movie:

I have seen, again, someone saying " they made a mistake, Alex makes his speech and THEN the king meets with Henry to deny the press"

I've seen a version of this way too many times.

It's not a mistake.

The leak happens, the press prints it/people talk about it, neither the White House nor Buckingham palace make a comment.

They're both regrouping (separately) to discuss how to handle it (as you do).

Buckingham Palace is known for, in most cases, waiting on things to calm down and act like nothing happened. They're clearly at a loss on how to proceed.

Alex makes his speech because, fuck it, he loves this man. And the situation is not ideal, it's actually really fucked up. His mother, the White House, his political party are being hounded. HE is being hounded, his most personal thoughts and business are out for everyone to read. But he's going to take back their power and their narrative, and he is going to start on their plan to make some history because he isn't about to let anyone shame them and their love.

Now he's in Buckingham Palace with Henry and the King speaks to them.

The King explains (quite clearly) how nations have always lied about other nations to gain power over them whether it be during warfare, economically or politically. That Great Britain itself has used it in the past, and that IF it's what's happening right now he will denounce and deny it (he knows it's all true)

Meaning the Crown is ready to go public and say the White House are lying liers who lie. The leak? The speech? All orchestrated to smear the Royal family in order to GAIN something (what thing, who knows, they'd find anything to back it up) or to undermine them.

The Crown is ready to hurt (or kill) their alliance with one of the most powerful nations in the world just to keep up appearances.

That's how far they'd go.

That's what he's proposing.

That's why this scene is there.

The king isn't talking about denying the press. He's talking about denying the White House.

[taleswithoutend]

It’s becoming abundantly clear that nobody cares about jewish people. You’ll get mad on our behalf when it’s convenient for you, and you’ll spit slurs at us when it isn’t.

But hey, I’m glad you’re willing to make excuses for blatant antisemitism when it’s used as a dunk against someone you don’t like. Maybe the next time Harry Potter discourse is in vogue, we’ll still be around to be convenient props for you.

[sincenewyorks]

remember when nick and taylor got attacked for being TOO attractive to play firstprince which is hilarious bc it’s canon that they’re super fucking attractive

[adelha-mathilde]

Had a thought as I was going over Trigun Stampede. Not trying to start up drama or do fear mongering or anything like that. Just a brief comment on something about this piece of media to respectfully discuss/consider.

-Have also edited due to recent discussions and a rather angry reblog post-

TLDR. I am wondering what Wolfwood's actual age is. Since we have no real idea how much time passed between the flashback scene where Wolfwood got smacked around by Legato and the actual time he meets Vash and the journalists.

But I did notice that his signature in that end episode is the exact same as a preteen as well as his interactions with people coming off as a teenage brat. Like he's only fifteen or maybe sixteen.

So even though I get that fandoms are going to hard core ship whoever... My take is Tristsmp Wolfwood isn't even eighteen yet.

BE THAT AS IT MAY I WILL STRESS THIS POINT BELOW!

From what I have come to realize as a big lore fan of "Five Nights at Freddy's" over the years, there is a difference between canonicity and continuity. Basically, just cuz thing one thing happens in the games / movie / books does NOT mean it is something that happens in the other forms of universe storytelling media. As such, we may use the manga or 98 series to show a thing for the continuity of the Trigun lore. But it's not a canon one to one comparison thing and we must be more thoughtful on what puzzle piece goes wherever

So based solely off of what I have observed in Trigun Stampede, I really wonder how old Wolfwood is and if he's even like eighteen or twenty yet.

[mixedup-sideblog]

To (a very vocal minority of) ‘Original Trigun Fans.’

I’m going to preface this with - obviously you are allowed to not like the show. Obviously there are valid criticisms of it especially if you’re viewing it through the lens of it being a reimagining of something you’ve already loved. I acknowledge and respect that.

BUT what I can’t respect is the clear blind hate pushed onto Stampede by some. Some who haven’t even watched half an episode of it, who decry it as a terrible show without even watching it. Those are the ones that are pissing me off.

Just because you ‘got there first’ doesn’t mean you’re better than anyone. Just because either by chance you came across it first or the person you’re talking to wasn’t old enough to read or watch it the first time you did doesn’t give you some special superiority over the plot or the characters.

If you don’t like Stampede fair, but why spam hate reviews? Why sit and talk constantly about how much you hate it when you have all the original stuff right there in-front of you! Stampede is helping others discover it! Be happy so many people have started Stampede then immediately consumed all other forms of Trigun because of it!

There are some criticisms I’ve seen like people refusing to watch because there is no Milly but I would argue we don’t know if she’s in it yet she could appear we literally know nothing. I have also seen criticism re pacing - unfortunately they don’t know if they’re getting a season two I assume that is why it’s got to be quick.

I’m desperate for season 2 which is why I get so mad seeing people putting others off or trying to get people not to watch simply because it’s not the original…it’s so so simple if you don’t like it maybe comment once and move on and don’t watch it. Don’t go on some long-ass tirade acting like it’s the worst thing to ever exist, like it’s your mission to prevent others from watching and enjoying it!

Studio Orange have put a hell of a lot of effort into this it’s so so clear that they care about the show they’re creating, hell it’s even approved by the original creator and if you want to talk having the right to gatekeep then if it’s anyone’s right (which it isn’t) then it’s him that has it!

I’ve seen so many original fans vocalising their happiness, their joy that Stampede is bringing new fans to the franchise, that new content is being made, that they can scream and shout about the characters again! I try to focus on them, but the ones spam hating are really grinding at me at the moment, please OGs if you like/are happy about Stampede tell us!

Sorry for this long rant I needed to get it out. For those who hate it simply for existing please re-evaluate yourselves. For those who love the original AND stampede please be vocal about it please be the vocal majority and drown out the other hate!

As the meme goes we’ve got two hands…

(Also as a side note I cannot fathom people hating on the visuals/CGI because it’s STUNNING)

[meraki-yao]

Nick goes out of his way to praise Taylor as an actor. He maybe did 5 interviews he did about the movie and in each one he talks about how Taylor was the perfect choice, how funny and smart he was and how well he understood the character. Taylor isn’t complimentary at all towards him but I think It says a lot about Nick that he is. Similarly, Matthew goes on and on about Taylor becoming the character and transforming and then he has this really weird line about Nick being protective and holding the character and it’s quite…. Minimizing and not at all how Nick describes his performance. Nick is for sure the third wheel in that group but he handled it well imo. 

….Jeeze, what the fuck.

This is the only time I’m ever gonna answer an ask like this becuase this is my blog, and I want it to be happy. Any other asks or comments insinuating that the boys (including Matthew) don’t get along I will straight up delete. I don’t have the time or energy for shit like this.

You clearly haven’t seen all interviews or understand how an interview works, or frankly understand that different humans express appreciation and affection in different ways.

In the cinemagna interview, Taylor repeats that it’s great to work with Nick, he knows Nick cares about this production a lot (i.e., Nick’s a responsible and dedicated actor), they have a great banter with each other, they trust each other, and they’re each other’s greatest supporters. Taylor often comments on their relationship as a whole, which is inherently, also a comment on Nick being a great friend and a great co-star, or else you would not have a relationship like this. He also shows his appreciation towards Nick in other ways, such as making a big deal on Instagram when Purple Hearts and Comfort were released. So “Taylor isn’t complimentary at all towards Nick” is simply not true.

When Nick compliments Taylor, he’s being directly cued to talk about Taylor as an individual. As far as I’ve seen (and I’ve seen quite a number) Taylor, in his solo interviews was never directly asked to talk about Nick. As an interviewee, you have to answer what is asked of you. Plus, a question like “How was it like to work with him” can be taken both ways: the “him” aspect, or the “with him” aspect.

Also bear in mind that we don’t actually have that many interviews from the boys themselves because of the strike.

As for Matthew, the line of Nick being protective of Henry is simply a different way of processing acting. Only Nick and Matthew know for sure, but my understanding is that Nick understands Henry’s hardships, is very sympathetic towards him, and thus wants to do the character justice. Nick said in the GQ interview that his own great fear is being misunderstood and Henry has to live with that every day. The idea is the way Nick as himself, an individual sympathizes with Henry, and as the actor, the way he can protect Henry is to throw himself into it and let Henry be protected, by Alex. Nick can’t protect Henry because he is literally not in the same universe as Henry, but by being vulnerable and portraying Henry honestly, he can let Henry be protected in the RWRB universe.

Matthew also often talks about and compliments the boys as a collective, he clearly appreciates both of them.

Nobody's minimizing anything. And sometimes, we can't speak on behalf of someone else, so they focus on their perspective.

If you’re gonna be stubborn and say that Matthew’s closer to Taylor, well three things. 1, their relationship is their own relationship, what they share on social media is far from the full picture. We are not entitled to know their private life or relationships, and just because they don’t show certain things doesn’t mean it’s false, it’s just unfalsifiable. Plus Nick hasn’t been that active on social media or in the public eye at all lately (My guess is he might be writing music) 2, In human psychology, we are inherently drawn to familiarity, given Matthew and Taylor’s shared experience of being Latino, they would have more to talk about just on that basis. (that’s not to say Matthew and Nick wouldn’t have stuff to talk about, it’s just the subject of ethnicity is immediately apparent) 3, and I will admit this is my speculation, but Taylor and Nick publicly hanging out together right now, even if it’s just as themselves, as friends, could sort of, kind of, be considered promo given the nature of the movie which is against the strike. Also again, Nick hasn’t really been seen at all lately, he’s probably busy with his own stuff.

So tl dr, you’re taking things out of context, we really don’t have that many interviews with just them, what’s shown is far from the entirety of their relationship, and I am not gonna answer any more asks like this because it’s just not true. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.  

[realmofstupid]

@privacyisafalsehood thank you so much! Thanks to your attention to detail we now know Wolfwood's age in Trigun Stampede!

To anyone who was wondering if he was still a kid in Stampede, now we have answers!

[finitevariety]

it's wild to me how people get facts and logic very quickly about their faves whilst ignoring how hard it is to ever have evidence of creepy behaviour between you and a stranger you met in person.

Ultimately the nature of interactions is that you can't always provide a citation for everything that happens.

Braun's behaviour at Ray's, in itself, could be just regular consensual fun between adults—though imo a little pathetic because in essence he's created a fan farm from which, on any given night, he can thwap a willing woman's body out of the pile like a salmon from a pen. So, whatever, if we're going facts and logic about this: disregard.

But is it more believable that the tiktoker—a young woman, who has pictures, who knows that by saying this she is inviting a huge amount of negative attention—is lying, or that Nicholas Braun did in fact try to sleep with her despite knowing she was a minor?

Sometimes people allege things that aren't true. Mitski did not, for example, traffic children(!), and that was obvious from the jump. But what about this scenario rings as unbelievable to you? Is it because he's tall and goofy? Did you see him cover Non-Threatening Boys and internalise it as fact? What more evidence should she, or could she, have obtained in that scenario?

Like, sure, the story about him actually sleeping with a different girl the same age is technically hearsay, but this isn't a literal court. I feel pretty fucking comfortable saying that the meat of the tiktoker's story—everything about what happened to her personally—is enough for me to form a conclusion.

[igottatho]

The first non-academic mention of Zionism/Israel I ever experienced was in my first job. My boss, a Jewish man who practiced Judaism and attended synagogue regularly, and proudly wears his Judaism. One day in the break room, he brought up the local Bible Baptist church, which waves Zionist flags out on a major highway (the parking lot borders the highway, get it?) in between a few US American flags….

He said regarding Israel and I quote - “those fucking lunatics” and how he felt so lucky for he and his daughters to have avoided Zionism.

[bucksboobs]

Extremely fucking funny that Alice was like "I wanted to dive deeper into Ben this season" and that took the form of everyone Ben knows telling him off and then he leaves. Like what did you accomplish exactly?

[lost-technology]

I was about to respond to someone directly on their thoughts in the ether, but I decided that I didn't want to harsh their buzz or cause a fight, so I'll just let out my thoughts here. Someone was talking about Wolfwood's grief-reaction in Badlands Rumble to thinking that Vash died. How he wrecked the red fridge in his hotel room (I also see red things and think of Vash. I've had a few things named "Vash" because they were red - good thing Wolfwood wasn't anywhere near my old tower computer). How he donned Vash's sunglasses to go to battle. Vashwooders point to that and go PROOF OF THE SHIP! and I'm like, huh? Really now. I don't think it's just because I'm an asexual. I think if people want to use that as romantic subtext, it's fine. I just think that it's proof of closeness, whatever the form. This is a problem I have with fandom in general, actually - people taking any and every interaction and making an entire thing on it and acting like people who see things differently are wrong. I am going to share a sad story now. I lost someone very dear to me this year. A found-family / chosen family nephew who was also my best friend. (An adult). This was back in January. A huge part of my grief-reaction early on was anger... like pure unfiltered rage without direction. I didn't put my fist through a fridge but I did other things. I screamed at so many people who did not deserve it. I actually had to quit the fast food job I had at the time because I feared that I was going to beat this one snide high school kid who worked there who liked to purposefully antagonize me upside the head with a greasy spatula and decided that getting therapy was better than getting an assault charge. (He did not know my situation, he was just a jerk in general, but I knew that he would be evil if he knew and I was just... not well). Another part of my grief reaction and subsequent healing has been surrounding myself with Eevees. I spent many days doing a canvas painting of a frolicking Eevee. I made careful displays of my nephew's Eevee figurines. We bought a big Eevee-plush for his memorial service that now lives on my bed. This was because my nephew loved Eevees and I associated Eevee as his icon. Either that or Optimus Prime. I can tell you absolutely that if my nephew had been murdered by a bandit rather than a random heart attack and it was time for me to go to battle to bring said bandit-gang to justice, I'd be ornamented with every Eevee-related item I have in his honor. We never banged. We never wanted to bang. We were Aunt and Nephew. We were peas in a pod geeks. And I think that is lost to people in fiction fandom sometimes - the value and importance and even the possibility of other kinds of relationships. I think it's because our society puts so much importance on romance and sex that all else is forgotten. It is perfectly okay to see certain Vash and Wolfwood interactions and reactions to each other as romantic. I know full well that my little Vash x Meryl heart SOARED during that scene in Stampede where Vash comes out of his Plant-coma and tells Meryl that he heard her (Rem's) voice through her / "I heard your voice, too." depending on whether you're watching dub or sub. I don't think it makes Vash x Meryl canon in any way and the relationship is just as easily friends / "Hey, some humans like me!" But, yes, I understand the impulse. It's just... it's not the only way to interpret it or "irrefutable proof" for all fans.

[finexbright]

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[georgevilliers]

Tbh I liked bottoms more than rwrb in every way maybe I'm not big on romance or whatever reason. But that subtly feels like Anne or whoever wrote that dialogue was actually shading rwrb

Question could have been direct mentioning bottoms but no, it has to be confusing towards rwrb since it was released on amazon and was top movie for 3 weeks.

Bottoms didn't do that well as its was first theatre release and a female centric on so of course

Idk just my analysis of it

But again we're saying "shading" and we're not really saying why? Is it because there was an expectation for Anne to ask him about RWRB and then she didn't? Because Anne doesn't owe it to people to ask him about RWRB when she's just having a conversation with him and asking him stuff she is curious about.

Or maybe people feel baited and switched because it seemed like she was going to bring up RWRB and then she brought up Bottoms instead? Because that's really the only thing I can see here and that is us putting our expectations on her and thats not reasonable or fair. It's also us making assumptions about her intentions, her tone, her actions, when none of those things are able to be properly expressed in a written interview format as it was presented.

If you want my honest opinion, it reads to me like she was leading into asking a question about Bottoms, and then remembered that he was in 2 movies that summer that were big and decided to clarify which one she was talking about, which is fine!!!!!! Anne Hathaway certainly does not owe us a question about RWRB especially when that is not the project they are promoting together!!!