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notes-from-sarah · 10 months ago
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New Mutants Annual #3 by Chris Claremont
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The only evidence needed for shipping Doug / Warlock. Nah but like fr, how am I supposed to read this scene as something other than flirting? Like Warlock is askin Doug which human form he finds most "pleasing" and alternates between multiple ones (including Doug himself it seems lol)? I mean maybe you could view it as a "which clothes do you think look best on me" which yeah could be platonic? It just read to me as if it was more along the lines of asking "Do I look hot in this dress?"
It's a cute scene overall no matter how you read it.
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comic-covers · 3 months ago
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(1983)
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big-gay-apocalypse · 3 months ago
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what a perfect dadclops moment
// New Mutants Epic Collection: The End of the Beginning
(except for the kids' cultural appropriation costumes from their small world performance)
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tonkysexist · 1 year ago
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I’m in the process of rereading the 1983 run of New Mutants and I had genuinely forgotten how much of Illyana’s narration is dedicated to her waxing poetry about Kate. It’s “My best friend Kitty…” followed by the most romantic declaration of undying love you’ve ever witnessed.
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One of many (oh so many) examples.
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hawkzeyes · 1 year ago
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I’m down bad I fear
Green Arrow #4 (2023)
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velvet4510 · 2 months ago
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What The Sequel(s) to X-Men: Days of Future Past Should Have Looked Like
I haven’t even seen X-Men: Apocalypse or X-Men: Dark Phoenix start to finish but thanks to this app i know practically the entire plots of both films and i’m just so utterly appalled by them. Not just with the way they mess up the timeline (Jean & Scott as teenagers and Warren as a young adult in 1983?? Excuse me?? No way Logan’s time shenanigans altered people’s birth dates, what??) But also with the way they just butcher every character arc - Charles being selfish? Erik settling down with a human instead of continuing to fight for his cause and make up for his 10 years of inactivity? Giving Erik an OC daughter JUST to kill her 2 seconds later rather than focus on his fatherhood story with Peter? Erik and Ororo siding with Apocalypse to destroy the whole world? Hank turning on Charles when he alone stood by Charles post-beach divorce all those years? Raven being ungrateful to Charles for creating a better world for mutants? Trying to convince us that Charles was somehow in love with Moira and Erik was somehow in love with Raven? The X-Men throwing Charles out of his own house?? WHAT IS THIS?????
Frankly I don’t get why the writers tried (and failed) to give us more Jean and Scott and Ororo when we got plenty of them in the other movies and we know thanks to the end of X-Men: Days of Future Past that Charles will still eventually recruit them. Jean and Scott’s very presence at the end of that film shows that the sight of Logan’s memories of Jean’s original fate prompted Charles to NOT repeat his other self’s mistakes and instead use a better approach to help Jean that enabled her to keep the Phoenix under control and not hurt Scott. That’s all we need to know about them in the new timeline. We don’t need to see Charles messing up yet again when it comes to Jean when that ruins a huge layer of the meaning and impact of DOFP’s ending.
James McAvoy himself pointed out how unnecessary it felt to recycle characters from the original trilogy when the X-Men in the comics are full of plenty of other characters that could’ve been introduced in a DOFP sequel instead. He’s absolutely right.
But here’s what I really think: if any sequels to DOFP just HAD to be made, they shouldn’t have tried to stuff in even more characters. If they HAD to include another old character we’d seen before, it should’ve been Kurt Wagner and Kurt Wagner only. Why? Because he’s Raven & Azazel’s son. And this would only add to the parenthood theme already present through Erik & Peter, and Charles & his students; add a new dimension to Raven as a character as we explore how she feels about being a mother, and what happened that caused her to be separated from her child; and add a new dimension to Hank as we explore how he feels about potentially being a parental figure to Kurt as a result of following his heart toward Raven.
The sequel(s) should’ve focused on developing the relationships that actually had been established/hinted at, and those that would naturally branch as a result:
Erik & Peter as father and son
Raven & Kurt as mother and son
Charles’ parental relationship with his young students
Charles & Erik getting back together
Hank & Raven getting back together
Hank dealing with being Kurt’s possible stepfather
Charles & Raven reconciling as siblings once again
Charles & Peter as stepfather and stepson
Charles & Kurt as uncle and nephew
Alex seeing all of this and being reminded of his bad relationship with his own parents that led him to get locked up before Charles and Erik found him, emphasizing Charles’ place in his life as his true “father,” and foreshadowing Scott by revealing he’s not in touch with his family (meaning he doesn’t know he has a much-younger brother)
Erik bonding with Kurt and making Kurt comfortable through being the only other native German speaker in the group
Erik & Hank dealing with their rocky relationship; Hank giving Erik a proper calling out for sending Charles into such a depression for a decade
Erik bonding with Charles’ other students and slowly realizing there is a place for him at the school
(Logan may or may not work as a character in such a sequel. But whether he has a big or small role, it must be acknowledged that Raven, not Stryker, saved him from the Potomac at the end of DOFP. So now he is on a different path, and is NOT Weapon X. Either he’s still at the mansion or went his own way with the open possibility of returning; I think the latter makes more sense since he’s such a loner and considering he wouldn’t remember the events of DOFP, he’d be pretty overwhelmed. Plus his explained absence would allow space for the film(s) to focus more on the other characters.)
Regardless, any villain(s) of those hypothetical sequels should’ve been the kind of antagonist(s) whose threat inevitably brought those aforementioned characters together and, in the process, fleshed out those relationships.
Also, no stupid 10-year time jumps between every movie. Keep it to 5-7 years after DOFP, at the most.
Think of the emotional impact that would bring:
Charles & Raven dealing with the fact that she chose not to come to him for help when she became pregnant
Hank & Raven discussing Raven’s history with Azazel and both of them admitting they went to great lengths to try to get over each other but nothing worked
Raven exploring motherhood and her feelings about either having abandoned Kurt as a baby or accidentally losing him, and Hank supporting her in this
Erik exploring his newfound fatherhood, and Charles supporting him in this
Peter’s feelings toward his dad for being absent from his life for so long and also for being a terrorist
Kurt’s feelings toward his mom for being absent for so long, and possibly for intentionally leaving him
Peter & Kurt becoming besties and bonding over being super-fast travelers who have spent too many years not knowing one or both parents
Hank wishing things had been different with Raven and that Kurt could’ve been his son and thinking about stepping into a stepfather role for Kurt
Erik & Peter perhaps getting stranded/separated from the rest of the group and forced to bond while trying to find their way back
Erik saving Peter’s life in battle, cementing their new bond
Hank fully embracing his Beast form (mutant and proud) in battle while protecting Raven and Kurt
Raven, Hank & Kurt as a badass blue family
Erik finally deflecting a bullet successfully to save Charles
Charles & Erik fighting side by side once again and realizing they’re better together than apart
Erik & Hank managing to find some common ground as they both have been unexpectedly thrown into fatherhood (see, no need for female fridging!)
Erik coming up with Quicksilver as Peter’s superhero name, at least getting the chance to name his son in this way
Basically the whole group becoming a big family
Perhaps closing with a flash forward a few years: Erik & Raven are now teachers at the school; young Scott arrives at the school and meets Alex for the first time; Charles & Erik hear about young Jean and head out to meet her; Hank & Raven manage to discover Logan’s location and head out to bring him back to the mansion - tying into the finale of DOFP
Those are just a few things that could’ve, and should’ve, been prioritized in a sequel to DOFP.
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khaotungthanawat · 6 days ago
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The war was over...
The only survivors were street animals: dogs, cats, and rats. From them, a new race of mutants evolved.
...that was a long time ago.
@pscentral​ members' choice — event 33: underrated tv & film: Rock & Rule (1983)
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moldybonessmell · 3 months ago
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Magneto was right and it's not funny
It is very sad actually.
//SPOILERS Deadpool and Wolverine
In X-Men 2000 Erik and Charles have this dialogue going on:
Erik: Doesn't it ever wake you up in the middle of the night? The feeling that someday they will pass that foolish law or one just like it and come for you and your children?
Charles: It does indeed.
Erik: What do you do when you wake up to that?
Charles: I feel a great swell of pity for the poor soul who comes to that school looking for trouble.
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Every single time Charles appears he pushes this idea that there's always hope and not all people are as evil as the ones in 1940s.
But the true is that every single movie proves Charles wrong.
For example, Days of Future Past is all about mutant genocide. And even tho in the past they stopped it from happening, every movie comes to the same point of some laws to potentially limit mutants' rights.
From what I've seen at this point going chronologically (even tho this order might be controvercial):
First Class - 1962 - fear towards mutants and the attempt to completely vipe this one Cuba beach to kill all known mutants at the moment;
Days of Future Past - 1973 - political heat about mutants and first mutant-killer machines;
Apocalypse - 1983 - on a lower scale but Erik's family gets killed just because people fear him (shows us apparent society views);
Dark Phoenix - 1991 - very unstable peace and then new political heat about mutants;
X-Men - 2000 - (even tho it's alternate reality) new laws about mutants are about to get passed;
X2 X-Men United - 2003 - attack planned by Striker caused political heat again and a very devastating one. Watching Bobby's parents say "have you tried to not be a mutant" is actually painful;
Days of Future Past - 2023 - complete mutant genocide;
Deadpool and Wolverine - 2024 - (really not sure which timeline is this) ALL the X-Men got killed and Logan couldn't help them, it is stated that "humans came" so we know it wasn't other mutants' job.
And these are only the ones I remember properly (read: rewatched recently).
So with all of this information I came to the conclusion that in the x men universe mutants, unfortunately, will never live in peace.
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This is it, thank you for reading.
Edit: added info about X2 X-Men United after watching
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demilypyro · 4 months ago
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I know you just said you don't know who Magik is, but honestly you would love Magik. She's the younger sister of Colossus who spent eight years in hell learning magic from an alternate-future Storm and the Devil, only to come back to Earth to find time hadn't passed here at all. She's cool cause she combines her mutant ability (making portals to teleport around) with her magic ability (creating a big fuck off sword) to fight dudes. She joins the new mutants and is in love with Kitty Pryde (I know she's not canonically gay because of course she isn't, but it is what it is). You can read all about her in the 4 issue Magik miniseries from 1983!
I really never got into x-men, I always found they had way too much complicated history for me to hop on board. This is why I liked Ms Marvel and Miles Morales, who had far less history to them when I got into marvel comics.
I gotta go back to the 1980s to understand who Magik is? whoof....
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mariaxman · 3 months ago
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PIETRO MAXIMOFF X READER
Resume: you made a bet with Jean, when you��d ask Peter out he’d turn you down. Easy made 50 bucks, right! Exept he beats you to the punch..
A/N: I really love this, I love the cliché of kissing in a Ferris wheel sm AHHH:33!!
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Charles Xavier’s school for Gifted Youngsters, Westchester,1974.
The summer breeze hit your skin like a bird’s feather, soft and gentle, as you stood outside of the institute. A year ago, a man from the future named Logan came and knocked on the door, claiming he needed the professor to save the world from ‘sentinels’, some anti-mutant, killer robots. You were 15 at the time, already having mastered your mutation, came along with them to give a hand. That, is when you met Peter. As requested you had to break out Magneto from the pentagon, and Logan ‘knew a guy’. He was JUST your type. Sure, he was a kleptomaniac and all, but god was he handsome, and a charming in his own very-weird-way. Though, it didn’t last long, as he went home the moment you stepped out the pentagon, Magneto in hand . You never forgot the handsome speedster, even ten whole years later. Sure, it was kind pathetic. But hey! Can you blame a gal? He was flirting with you the whole time AND WINKED AT YOU WHEN YOU EMBARKED THE JET BACK, of course you fell for him!
Charles Xavier’s school for Gifted Youngsters, Westchester, 1983
You never thought you’d ever see him again. Like, ever. But hey, fate works in a strange way. One second you were standing next to Beast as Havok wrecked shit, the next you landed surprisingly gently on the grass outside as the Institute blew up. You were dizzy and felt like you were about to blow chunks. Nevertheless, you stood back up on shaky legs and just stared at the mansion with wide eyes and a dropped jaw, not even noticing the speedster standing riiiighht next to you, staring intensely. Until he said a simple ‘hey’ and you yelped embarrassingly loud for a qualified X-woman. Atleast he laughed! Then you were kidnapped by.. what was their name? Oh well, then you escaped, fought apocalypse, Charles lost his hair, which is VERY pertinent, I know. And, well, you were back at the mansion soon enough, students were sat outside on lawn, huddled up as, mind you, it was totally broken down and needed SERIOUS repair. Which leads us to here, you and your friends(who are literally all teens which is.. yeah) went to the mall to pass time and buy new clothes after losing all of the old ones in the explosion, an activity you loved doing with Jean and Jubilee.. until now. You were browsing a store with said girls, grabbing a top, you held it infront of you.
‘’Is this cute?’’
You ask Jubilee, the top was simple in itself, a baby blue tank top with an embroidered yellow lightning bolt. It kinda reminded you of Peter..
‘’Yeah, that is really cute, BUT-‘’
Jubs says and snatches the top, putting it in your basket
‘’WHEN are you gonna make your move on Peter?!’’
The girls asks eagerly. Your cheeks immediately burn up in embarrassment
‘’make a move on him? W-what are you talking about?!’’
you chuckle nervously, looking away at the clothing racks. Jean chuckles from behind you, which startles you, just a little bit
‘’Come on now, Y/N. You definitely love him, you did since… 1973! C’mon!’’
The redhead exclaims, in the middle of the store, catching a lot more attention than your liking. Goddam telepath. You didn’t know what to say, really. You definitely wanted to date him, more than anything! But you just felt like Peter didn’t feel the same
‘’Okay, okay! Y’know what? I’ll tell him tonight, at the fair! But I bet you 50 bucks he doesn’t even like me a little bit!’’
You say as you walk to the cashier. Jean shoots Jubilee a look. ‘HE IS LITERALLY HEAD OVER HEELS FOR HER, GUESS IM WINNING 50 BUCKS’ she tells the other girl telepathically, which makes her vibrate with a giggle.
Now, at the fair, you were scared shitless. You made a promise, you gotta keep it now, huh? You’re sure Peter‘ll be sweet if he rejects you, yeah! You sigh, snapped out your thoughts when Jean and Jubilee dragged you to an attraction, giggling the whole way, which left Scott and Peter alone. The former elbows Pietro in the ribs, hard
‘’So, when are you finally gonna ask her out?’’
Scott teases, that irritated smirk on his face
‘’What? Pssfghhsss- what are you talkin’ bout?’’
the silver-haired man plays dumb, shoving his hands in the pocket of his silver jacket
‘’C’mon, dude. I know you like her— you’re literally staring her as we speak!’’
Oh, yeah, he was… it wasn’t his fault you were so gorgeous, for Christ sake! You were literally his dream girl come true, can you blame him?
‘’Okay, yeah, maybe I do like her a little. But she has great taste in music and a bitchin’ haircut! And.. pretty eyes’’
He mumbles the last part as he watched you settle in right between Jean and Jubs in the attraction, laughing your head off at something Jubilee said. God were you pretty
‘’Dude, I see the world trough a red visor and even I can see it’s definitely more than ‘liking’’’
Scott huffs, crossing his arms and looking ahead
‘’You should win her a prize, y’know, a plushie’’
The brunette shrugs. Yeah, he was right, he should
‘’Mh.. maybe I will’’
Peter grins. A few minutes later, the ride end and you stumble out with the other two, using Jubilee as support as you giggle, totally dizzy and giddy
‘’You’re not gonna throw up, are you?’’
Jubs quizzes and you shake your head no. Phew, that’d be embarrassing. You all continue walking as a group until Jean drags Scott over to the game booths. Scott grin in Peter’s direction in a ‘you go dude!’ Fashion. Jubilee catches on and lean closer to you
‘’I’m gonna go grab us a coke, okay’’
She pats your back and speed walks away before you can even turn around, leaving you with Peter. An awkward silence fall between you two until he speaks up
‘’hey, princess, want me to win you a prize? I’m pretty damn good at that game over there’’
He grins in his usual boyish manne— PRINCESS?? That was new, wow, why did that make butterfly flutter in your stomach..
You nod quickly with flushed cheeks and follow him when he grabs your hand and drags you to the booth. The game was easy, pop 10 balloons in one go and win a plushie. Easy enough. Peter walks up and pays the bored worker, who just hands him the 10 darts with a poker face. Shit job, huh. Surprisingly, he didn’t use his mutation. Which is pretty good considering the setting. He picks up a dart and shoot. POP, one balloon down. POP, two. POP. POP. POP. POP. POP. POP. POP. POP. Yay! Free plushie, considering-all-the-ones-you-had-got-Fucking-cremated! You giggle and jump on the ball of you feet as Pietro gets handed the big stuffed snow leopard plush. He turns to you and hands it over
‘’There you go, N/N’’
He grins when you hug him tightly
‘’Thank you Pietro!’’
You pull back and turn around when you hear your name, running over to Jubilee with two bottles of coke in hand. She raises an eyebrow at you then look over at Peter, giving him a proud thumbs up and a wink of approval. Which— to him — was a little perculiar, but honestly… you wouldn’t expect less from a girl name jubilation. Jean and Scott arrived back themselves a few minutes later, empty handed. Scott shrugged, his excuse being that his visor was at fault. Though Jean whispered that he just sucked ass at the games. You continued walking around the park, going on rides, when 23:00 hit. Many people left but you decided to do one more ride, the Ferris wheel. You still had an hour before it closed, so why not? You all went in the line, and when it was your turn, the teen boy there let Jubilee, Scott and Jean in a carrier, but told you to wait for the next one because the people limit was 3. So now, you were stuck, alone with Peter. Your crush for the past TEN FUCKING YEARS! Great. You took a quiet, deep breath and slipped in the carrier next to Peter, setting your plushie on the seat across from you both.
‘’Hey’’
The speedster jokes, grinning ear to ear. You smile back, resting your chin on your knees
‘’Hi’’
You look to your right when the Ferris wheel starts moving. You had the view on the lake beside the fair, where fireworks’ll be lit in a few minutes
‘’So, enjoyed your night, N/N?’’
He asks, cocking his head to the side
‘’Yeah, I loved it. Thanks for winning me a plushie too’’
You grin at him, full teeth, eyes scrunched and lit by the moonlight
‘’Hey, nothing less for my favorite friend’’
You laugh and continue talking, the wheel slowly moving your carrier up and up until it stops, right at the top. As if planned, fireworks goes off and you shoot around, smile as wide as your eyes as you stare out the glass at the colorful beam of light, reflecting on your face. But Peter’s stuck, stuck staring at you in awe. You looked absolutely gorgeous. He couldn’t look away, not that he wanted to
‘’It’s so.. Beautiful!’’
You chirp in amazement
‘’ Yeah.. gorgeous, even’’
Peter mumbled, still very much looking at you. You turn to look at him with a crooked grin and a raised eyebrow
‘’You good, dud—!’’ Peter cut you off by grabbing your cheeks and leaping foward, pressing his lips to your so gently. You froze, arms to your side until you brain fully apprehended what happened. Peter kissed you… PETER KISSED YOU!! You melt against him, arms coming up to rest your hands on his gently, smiling into the kiss. You were content, stretch that, you were ecstatic! Even when he pulled away, and.. whooped, huh. Strange way to react to your first kiss with a girl.. why did you find that cute? You laughed aloud, along with him. He swept you in a one armed hug
‘’That was the best decision I’ve made ALL NIGHT, woo’’
He chuckled and squeezed you against his lovingly, silence falling between the two of you until the end of the ride.
When you stepped out you were greeted by your three friends waiting for you, Jean grinned and looked over at Jubilee, who’s jaw dropped. You glance at Peter to find a lipstick mark over his lip. You snort and quickly join the girls while Pietro joins Scott, who’s deliberately holding back laughter, much to Peter’s confusion. As you’re walking out the fair, Jean leans in and whispers;
‘’You owe me 50 bucks’’
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My reactions while reading New Mutants #26 (1985)
Emma Frost absolutely wrecking Empath is a peak moment. "Manuel Alfonso Rodrigo de la Rocha" Emma Frost was so pissed off she used his whole ass name cause he was playing around and fucking shit up. Then he got cocky and got his ass handed to him, as one should.
At least Xavier realizes and admits he fucked and abused his position of power with Gabrielle.
"A telepath can play god, you've no idea how tempting that is. I can change thoughts, twist memories, destroy a personality--erase it utterly--and recreate it any way I choose." - Charles Xavier, New Mutants #26 (1985) (this quote goes hard and should be referenced more if it isn't referenced enough already)
Moira and Rahne's relationship is tugging my heartstrings.
Also all these psi-words, we've got
Mindspeak, Psiprobe (Psi Probe), Psi-Talents, Psiwall (Psi-wall), Psilink (okay like half of these words need a hyphen between them- Psi-Link looks so much more pleasing to my eyes)
Skipping ahead to New Mutants #28
Love how everyone except Xavier (the damn telepath) is getting bad vibes from Jack Wayne, like yeah the racist douche who called Dani "Hiawatha" might be bad, and then Rahne is literally like "Mummy, he smells evil" to Moira about Jack Wayne. And the fact that everyone is like "this guy who the Professor's only known for like a day is totally his pal, friend, buddy, pal, chump."
Magneto's getting his heart broken in the Bermuda Triangle, as one does.
Oh my- lmao Douglas Ramsey saved the day by quoting a Star Trek episode, if that isn't the sweetest (and nerdy-ist) thing ever! He's adorable.
"Y'know, there's this classic Star Trek episode, where the captain's been kidnapped and his crew are trying to rescue him, only their weapons have no effect, even at full power. Thing is, the phasers worked all along, it's just that the villains, who were telepaths, wouldn't let the crew see that." - Doug Ramsey, New Mutants (1983) #28
And like sureeee he could had shortened it down and just said the wall is fake / another illusion but cmon this quote rocks.
The issue ends on such a hopeful note that I truly want to believe in Charles' promises and words but they sound almost cruel now knowing how he failed so hard at just being there for David and then later on further mistreatment.
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kermit-coded · 3 months ago
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Older Brother (Never Child)
marvel graphic novel #4 (1981) // a feast for crows by george r. r. martin // marvel graphic novel #4 (1981) // my father's house by bruce springsteen // happier than ever by billie eilish // new mutants (1983) // sacrificial lamb by the ophelias // right now by gracie abrams // new mutants (1983) // poplar street by chen chen // new mutants (1983) // canary in a coal mine by the crane wives // x-treme x-men (2001) // chuck palahniuck // would you rather by phoebe bridgers // x-men unlimited (2004) // elektra by sophocles // new x-men (2004) // i'll give you the sun by jandy nelson // american teenager by ethel cain // x-men divided we stand (2008) // older than i am by lennon stella // second coming prepare (2010) // growing sideways by noah kahan // hope in the dark by rebecca solnit // us avengers (2017) // driver's seat by madds buckley
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big-gay-apocalypse · 1 year ago
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the door signs
// X-Men: Legion - Shadow King Rising
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thequiver · 4 months ago
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Who is...Sam Guthrie | Cannonball? - A Reading Guide
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Sam Guthrie is an X-Men and Avengers affiliated mutant from Marvel Comics. Sam is the oldest of the nine Guthrie children and is the definition of parentification having dropped out of high school to work in the coal mines that killed his father (in either a mine accident or through black lung depending on your preferred retcon). Sam's powers would manifest during a mining accident and allowed him to blast through the rock to safety. Sam would then join the team he's most associated with, the New Mutants. Sam's story is one of overcoming adversities, determination, and of healing. Some of Sam's earlier stories show him being groomed by Lila Cheney and the adults in charge of his safety enabling her.
Sam is also excellent Appalachian representation and is one of the first Appalachian main characters to not be ashamed of being Appalachian while simultaneously not being based on hillbilly humor.
You'll find a reading list under the cut! The list will need to be posted in multiple parts due to length, subsequent parts will be added as reblogs.
Part 1 below!
Introduction and New Mutants Era
Sam's first team immediately after introduction was the original New Mutants (1983). Throughout this period Sam develops the close bonds he's known for, particularly with teammates Roberto Da Costa (Sunspot), Dani Moonstar (Mirage), and Rahne Sinclair (Wolfsbane). New Mutants was written by Chris Claremont and while wonderful, drops the ball in many places, one of which being the way that Sam's dialect is written and the sort of general understanding of Appalachia, as well as a refusal to acknowledge that Sam's relationship with Lila Cheney was based upon grooming. The issue that introduces Lila to Sam's story will have a red asterisk and a trigger warning next to it.
Marvel Graphic Novel (1981) #4 New Mutants (1983) #1-12 Marvel Team-Up (1972) # Annual 6 New Mutants (1983) #13-21 Rom (1982) #Annual 3 New Mutants (1983) # Annual 1 * (TW: Grooming) New Mutants (1983) #23-25 Marvel Team-Up (1972) #149 New Mutants (1983) #29 (Lila is in this issue) New Mutants (1983) #30-34 New Mutants Special Edition (1985) #1 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #201 (definitely not a necessary issue, but it's one that highlights that Sam IS smart, he's just really bad at technology) New Mutants (1983) #37 Firestar (1986) #2 New Mutants (1983) #38-40, 42-44, Annual 2, 45-51, Annual 3, 52 Fallen Angels (1987) #1 (this issue is a good look into Sam and Berto's relationship) New Mutants (1983) #53-66 Spellbound (1988) #4 (Lila's in this issue and you can see the way she almost treats Sam like an accessory) New Mutants (1983) #Annual 4A-B, 67-76, Annual 5A, 77-92, Annual 6A Wolverine: Rahne of Terra (not incredibly Sam focused and it's a bit..different, but what there is of Sam I like) New Mutants (1983) #93-100, Annual 7A
X-Force, X-Men, and X-Force Again
After the end of New Mutants, under the direction of Cable, Sam helped found the team, X-Force, and would be appointed Cable's second-in-command. While in New Mutants we got to see a Sam Guthrie who was coming into his powers, X-Force really gives us a glimpse of a Sam Guthrie who is starting to really apply those powers and who is starting to highlight why the character has come to be known as a powerhouse. During this period we see Sam go from a member of X-Force, to becoming a fully fledged X-Men, and then see him re-join X-Force until the team is disbanded. The change from X-Force to X-Men to X-Force are not represented in different sections as there is still overlap in Sam's character interactions and throughout his period on the X-Men, his former X-Force affiliation is an important factor that helps inform his choices and his outlook on situations, although I have tried to signify the changes with breaks in the text block.
New Warriors (1990) # Annual 1A Uncanny X-Men (1981) #Annual 15A X-Factor (1986) #Annual 6A X-Force (1991) #1-3 Spider-Man (1990) #16 X-Force (1991) #4-5 X-Factor (1986) #77 X-Force (1991) #Annual 1C, 6-15 X-Cutioner's Song Event (this links you to a reading list I made for the event) X-Men (1991) #17 New Warriors (1990) #31 X-Force (1991) #19-26, Annual 2, 27-29, 32-33 New Warriors (1990) #46 X-Force (1991) #34-37 Cable (1993) #15 X-Factor (1986) #106 X-Force (1991) #38 Excalibur (1988) #82 X-Force (1991) #39-45 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #323-325 Wolverine (1988) #93
Uncanny X-Men '95 (1995) #1 X-Men: Clan Destine (1996) #1 Wolverine (1998) #96 X-Force (1991) #48 X-Force and Cable '95 (1995) #1 X-Men vs. The Brood (1996) #1-2 X-Force (1991) #51 X-Men (1991) #48 Wolverine (1988) #99-100 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #332 Wolverine (1988) #101 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #334 X-Men (1991) #54 Onslaught: X-Men (1996) #1 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #335 Cable (1993) #36 Beast (1997) #1-3 X-Men (1991) #59 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #340 X-Men (1991) #60 Wolverine (1988) #111 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #341-342, Annual '97 The Incredible Hulk (1962) #455 X-Men (1991) #62-66 Wolverine (1988) #115-118 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #350 X-Men (1991) #70 New Mutants: Truth or Death (1997) #1-3 X-Men (1991) #71-72, 75-76 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #355 Alpha Flight (1997) #9 X-Men (1991) #77-78 Uncanny X-Men/Fantastic Four Annual '98 (1998) #1 X-Men (1991) #79
X-Force (1991) #83-84 X-Force/Champions Annual '98 (1998) #1 X-Force (1991) #85-93 Uncanny X-Men (1981) #375 (Sam's only in the beginning of this one) X-Force (1991) # Annual '99, 94-98 Cable (1993) #73-75 X-Force (1991) #99-117
Part 2 to follow soon as I've hit the link limit!
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jinlintai · 6 months ago
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what are your favourite xmen comics that feature magneto? i really love him as a character but so far my only engagement with the xmen is through the movies and xmen ‘97. i want to read more about him in the comics but idk where to start </3
what era you should read first depends on what type of magneto you like and what's familiar to you; magneto's basically got a new thing every decade. but, since you're just starting i'm gonna suggest some things that are easy to read or fundamental. i know that starting to read comics can be intimidating with all the different series, crossovers, and writers.
i think the easiest place to start after having watched x men 97 is reading the one shot "god loves, man kills". it's the quintessential x men story.
if you're looking for a more shallow, modern read just to admire the curve of magneto's ass, you can read the miniseries magneto: not a hero. you could also read magneto (2014) issues #1-8. (imo, these are not necessarily the "best" magneto stories, but he is the focus of these comics and it can be understood without the baggage of previous comics.)
if you're looking for magneto backstory, read uncanny x-men issues #150 & 161 and classic x-men issue #12 (b story). you could also read magneto testament. it's a holocaust story, not a superhero story.
if you're interested in reading longer comics, i talk more under the cut.
if you're interested in reading about x-men and don't know where to start, i recommend reading uncanny x-men (1963) starting from issue #94. that's when claremont starts writing with some of the "classic" cast of x-men. stop whenever you want.
if you only care about magneto, i recommend starting uncanny x-men (1963) from issue #149-150, then skipping to #196. at #200, start simultaneously reading new mutants (1983) from issue #35. stop whenever you want.
if you want a more detailed recommendation list of magneto comics, you could probably find one online, or i could make one. it'll take a bit of time though, since i'll be rereading the issues as i add them :)
i read all my comics on readcomiconline.li -- it's free, but don't forget to use adblock/ublock origin!
as for my favorite magneto comic... i can't think of favorite comics specifically but my fav eras are: the 1980s headmaster era, the 2000s-2010s utopia era, and the 2010s mutant revolutionary/o5 teacher era. these are all heroic magneto eras haha. it's kind of complicated to start with these but do what you want. feel free to talk to me about which comics you end up reading!
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