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invertedhexagon · 3 months ago
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Adore this!
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chiptrillino · 1 year ago
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Nine people you’d like to get to know better
I was tagged by@paramouradrift & @blu3berrydraws (thanks! )
Three ships: jee x bato (sorry), jet x suki (it works well trust me!), sokka x yue x zuko (trust me on this one okay!)
i feel like copying Dis here and actually mentioning ships! because i do have a soft spot for the love story American aircraft carrier USS Independence and the italian training ship Amerigo Vespucci had going on. (as far you can belive articles.)
Also USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D beloved
First ever ship: oh ahhh... i think narusau? like they introduced me to doujinshi and all (first ship i ever activley followed and seaked out was kagehina!)
Last song: I wish you the worst by Ryan Mack
Last Film: C'è ancora domani (there is still tomorrow)
Currently Reading: i don't really read... okay this sounds awful but hear me out! I read magazines so what i am going through is currently GEO EPOCHE Balkan's history
Currently Watching: man idk i just finished Loki.
Currently consuming: Mulled tea? idk its 'Punch' but its without alcohol...
Currently craving: caffelatte.... idk i carve the comfort of such nice cup right now. okay okay i tagg (really trying to get people that are maybe not tagged already!): @ranilla-bean, @sulkybender, @ssreeder, @freedarick, @chitsangenthusiast, @thebxghag, @mugentakeda, @allgremlinart, @chiliger Only if you guys like to do it of course!!! no pressure form my side!
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puckpocketed · 10 months ago
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Tagged a millennia ago by @dijkstraspath and @cataroo sorry this was obliterated from my mind at the time </3
✨ noº1 team?
No number 1 team. I am a fickle creature whose heart is easily swayed by narratives!! My beloved teams, plural, are the Sharks, Kraken, Ducks, Wild, and recently the VGK! We have a soft spot a mile wide for losers and girlfailures. I am easily bamboozled by Antics and Shenanigans. Assume no teams are safe from my love. I always say: I have NO enemies in ice hockey except the refs/situation room <3
🥅 your favourite goalie?
My whole heart belongs to the oppressed goalie tandems on basement tier teams (Gibson/Dostal, Kahkonen/Blackwood, Soderblom/Mrazek)
Fav goalie to watch, who will always have a place in my heart? Joey Daccord! He has anime-protagonist levels of skill and he is a joy to watch in net. Truly creative, proactive, and unique. I see him going very far.
🔟 what would be your jersey number?
17! For the first two serial numbers of the Enterprise NCC-1701
🏒 what team would you love to play for?
PWHL New York, because women+teal <3
❤️‍🔥 who is your favourite player currently?
Thinking endlessly about Brock Faber. Girlies (gn) know I���ve been writing an essay about him for like a month, which has blossomed into something well beyond the scope of what I originally wanted to write.
👀 a trade that hurt you emotionally?
I haven’t been around ice hockey long enough for a trade to hurt me yet, but I’m not unfamiliar with trade heartbreak!
I have been in esports for years, and the first trade that fucked me up was support player ArK getting traded from the New York Excelsior to the Washington Justice. It was 5 years ago, the meta had shifted away from ArK’s best heroes, and the bombshell dropped on twitter. I was devastated. The NYXL core had been together through so much, I thought. They existed pre-Overwatch League, as LW Blue and LW Red. They were a family.
They reunited, briefly, during OWL All-Stars, and every moment of it hurt. ArK retired in 2020 after leading the Washington Justice to the North American Division Playoffs, where they came 3rd.
Many such trades and team implosions happened after ArK, but you never forget your first! 
🌈 what is your experience on hockeyblr so far?
Pretty amazing! I wrote a whole love letter to the kraken, sharks tag has some very funny characters who are very unserious about everything but very lovingly devoted to our losers, I’m too shy to talk in the wild tag too often but I hope this changes, the ducks tag is a wasteland populated by me and maybe 2 other people and we never seem to be blogging at the same time, and the one (1) person currently active in the vegas tag is quite possibly the sweetest person alive (!!!) they’ve been so excited to tell me about them, to welcome me and share their love!!!
The PWHL holds a very very dear place in my heart, I feel very tender and protective about it so I’m pretty quiet — but when I do venture into the tag it’s been a fun time!!!
I am putting out tentative feelers for the AIHL and the handful of people who’ve chimed in to show their support has been incredibly heartening and I look forward to writing propaganda for them when the time comes!!! <3
tag people you'd like to know these about ☺️🏒🖤
its. way way way way too late to be doing this but i guess im reviving the meme! absolutely feel no pressure to participate: @wehaveagathering @puckinggoalies @skybluerin @ppepohappy @belowthedepths if you'd like to participate consider yourself tagged by me!
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bevsdee · 2 years ago
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ncc-1701-d my beloved 😻😘😍❤️🫀🤞😘😘😘
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princesscolumbia · 1 year ago
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...Yeah, okay, I'll go
fraternal twins - No...but my sister and I were mistaken for twins when we were kids
people who were blonde as children - Still blonde
geminis - Nope, virgo
scorpios - Nope, dragon
roleplayers (ttrpg or larp version) - Always a GM, never a player
roleplayers (tumblr blog or discord or omegle edition) - Discord
gif makers who are terrified of the death of tumblr bc they will have nowhere to post - Not so much "gifs" as "anything I think I can figure out in Gimp that nobody else will do because I can't inject into their brain so they'll make it for me" (like my avatar/pfp)
people with septum rings - Nope, and not gonna (got several piercings in mind, though...)
non supernatural fans who nonetheless have opinions on the characters by osmosis - Boifriend likes it so I gotta know what they're talking about. 😋
ace attorney investigations enjoyers - I could take it or leave it
people with old laptops - slaps lid I can get so much life out of this bad boy!
people who do not own airpods - ABSOLUTELY not!
flautists - No...was gonna but my dad couldn't afford the instrument... 🙎🏻‍♀️
people with ocd who are very messy - Not OCD
collectors of weird objects - ...I'm currently building a scale model of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D, does that count?
drinkers of iced coffee only - Nope, can't do coffee, too bitter
and winter haters - ...we duel at dawn, sharpened snow shovels for weapons. Do not disparage my beloved season when all the filthy, filthy extroverts are forced to stay far, far away!
okay i wanna do one of these. PLEASE interact: fraternal twins, people who were blonde as children, geminis, scorpios, roleplayers (ttrpg or larp version), roleplayers (tumblr blog or discord or omegle edition), gif makers who are terrified of the death of tumblr bc they will have nowhere to post, people with septum rings, non supernatural fans who nonetheless have opinions on the characters by osmosis, ace attorney investigations enjoyers, people with old laptops, people who do not own airpods, flautists, people with ocd who are very messy, collectors of weird objects, drinkers of iced coffee only, and winter haters
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phoannix · 4 years ago
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happy birf to jimothy t kirkothy i wish him nothing but the best now go soar in that beautiful space frisbee king❗️❗️❗️
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toraz1yal · 4 years ago
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gets emotionally attached to a fictional spaceship
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ididnotknow · 2 years ago
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trektober day#23 : enterprise my beloved ncc-1701 ♥
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nuclearr-wessels · 3 years ago
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12 and 18 for the trek ask game
12. favorite starship (or station): NCC-1701 USS Enterprise, cardboard spaceship my beloved. Delights me the most whenever she appears, and hurt the most when she got destroyed
18. favorite non-starfleet character: From the way the question is phrased, Kira Nerys instantly came to my mind. I’m choosing her ♡
Thank you for sending the ask!! Love your profile pic btw ww
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elftwink · 3 years ago
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tng really is my star trek you know the one i grew up watching and know best. uss enterprise ncc 1701-d my beloved <3
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ponydanza-in-a-canza · 4 years ago
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NCC 1701 U.S.S. ENTERPRISE
My Beloved
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aion-rsa · 4 years ago
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Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 Episode 5 Easter Eggs & References
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This Star Trek: Discovery article contains spoilers for Season 3, Episode 5.
Because everything in the 32nd century is brand-new for the Star Trek canon, it would make sense that the writers of Star Trek: Discovery could get away with not really referencing anything from the existing canon. To put it another way, how much do you really know about the year 1090 off the top of your head? The gap between Discovery’s point of origin in 2258 and 3188-3189 is huge. And yet, nerdy Star Trek Easter eggs and HUGE call-backs to some of the most beloved ships and characters ever, endure. 
From a surprise cameo from a famous film director, to a lesson in Mirror Universe history, and yes, the appearance of Captain Janeway’s beloved starship, here are all the Easter eggs we caught in the latest Star Trek: Discovery episode, “Die Trying.” 
“Federation and Starfleet Headquarters”
Saru notes that the ship is en route to “Federation and Starfleet Headquarters,” and then points out that these are “separate entities that now must abide together.” Although sometimes used interchangeably, this distinction is relevant. Starfleet actually predates the Federation and is an exploratory organization, analogous with what might happen if NASA and the Navy were combined in space. The United Federation of Planets, on the other hand, is the government. Starfleet and the Federation are not the same things, except now, as Saru points out, in the 32nd Century, they kind of are.
New Constitution
Owo sees what she describes as a “new Constitution.” This can only refer to what she infers is an upgraded version of a Constitution-class starship. The NCC-1701 Enterprise was one of 12 Constitution-class ships in service in Joann Owosekun’s time. 
USS Voyager and USS Nog
The crew very prominently sees and talks about the USS Voyager NCC-74656-J. Owo and Tilly confirm that the “J” constitutes 11 “generations of evolution.” It is unclear if this means that this is literally the same Voyager from the 24th Century, or if the “J” means that this is the 11th ship to carry the name, “Voyager.” Elsewhere in the Starfleet Headquarters, barely visible is the USS Nog. Clearly, this was named for the Ferengi Nog from Deep Space Nine. Played by the late Aron Eisenberg, Nog was the first Ferengi in Starfleet. 
New Starfleet uses the TNG coloring 
Admiral Charles Vance and the rest of the 32nd Century Starfleet seem to use the color-coded system from the TNG era. Command officers still appear to sport red, while stripes of gold and blue are visible on other uniforms. 
Kaminar Joined the Federation
Saru is thrilled to learn that Kaminar became a Federation planet sometime after Discovery jumped into the future. Because we never heard from Kelpiens in the 23rd or 24th century, it seems likely they joined the Federation at some point after that. In the Short Treks episode “The Brightest Star,” we learned the Prime Georgiou rescued Saru from Kaminar, but that Saru couldn’t return there because of issues with the Prime Directive. In Discovery Season 2, the ship returned to Kaminar in “The Sound of Thunder,” but Kaminar definitely didn’t enter the Federation at that point.
Sigma Draconis System References “Spock’s Brain”
One unnamed officer tells Admiral Vance that the “Emerald Chain” — an alliance of Andorians and Orions — is up to no-good in the “Sigma Draconis” system. This is the same star system from the TOS episode “Spock’s Brain.” Let’s hope that Spock’s brain hasn’t been stolen — again.
The size of the Federation
For the first time ever, the size of the Federation has been firmly established, not just now, but also, prior to the current timeline. Vance tells Saru and Burnham that there are “38 member worlds” in the Federation right now, but that because of bad communications, it’s possible that there may be more. Vance also says this number is “down from 350 at its peak.” We knew there were a lot of planets in the Federation in TNG, but we really had no idea exactly how many.
Starfleet Federation combo
As mentioned by Saru in the opening monologue, Vance doubles-down on the idea that “Where we sit now represents not only the headquarters of Starfleet Command by also the entire civilian government of the United Federation of Planets.” It’s unclear at this point if there are civilian government officials still operating, or if Vance is saying that he is basically Starfleet and the Federation at the same time. He also says that everything has “been that way since the Burn.”
Zero records of Discovery is basically Spock’s fault
Vance says “our records show Discovery was destroyed in 2258.” Saru implies the files would have been erased by Starfleet for safety reasons. But, the truth is, Spock is the one who erased the stuff about the Spore Drive. We saw Spock take these steps in “Such Sweet Sorrow Part 2.”
A War to Uphold the Temporal Accords
Admiral Vance’s “quick history lesson” mentions that the Federation spent most of the 30th Century fighting “a war to uphold the temporal accords” which he says is an “interstellar treaty outlawing time travel.” This references the prequel series Star Trek: Enterprise, and basically establishes that the “Temporal Wars” alluded to by Book in “That Hope Is You Part 1” are the same Temporal Wars that Daniels pulled Captain Archer into. It also seems that the Temporal Wars may have continued in the relative “present” beyond what we saw Daniels doing in Enterprise.
The Discovery crew drops references for their entire story
As the crew is getting debriefed by the new Starfleet, several characters, including Culber, Reno and Tilly tease-out plotpoint from previous seasons.
Culber:  “I was emotionally dead, and I was murdered”
Culber was killed in the Season 1 episode “Despite Yourself,” when the Discovery jumped to the Mirror Universe. He was then brought back to life in the Season 2 episode “Saints of Imperfection.” He was in a terrible mood about being brought back to life which is why he jokes here that “I was emotionally dead.” The fact that he and his “murderer are good now,” references a confrontation he had with Ash Tyler in “If Memory Serves.”
Reno: “Commander Burnham fell out of the sky, with Captain Pike”
This references the Season 2 debut, “Brother,” in which Burnham and Pike rescued Reno from the USS Hiawatha, which had been crashed into an asteroid. 
Tilly: “After I got my hair blown out and became a Terran Captain/Dominatrix”
Tilly is talking about the episodes in which she had to impersonate the Captain of the Terran ISS Discovery, her Mirror Universe counterpart nicknamed “Killy.” This started in the episode “Despite Yourself” and went through “What’s Past Is Prologue.” When Tilly had to dye her hair and straighten it in “Despite Yourself,” she noted that her mother would have approved. 
David Cronenberg 
During Georgiou’s debrief, a mysterious man with glasses sits-in and asks her all sorts of pointed questions. This character has not yet been named, but he is played by legendary film director David Cronenberg. Among other films, sci-fi fans probably know Cronenberg best for directing The Fly and Scanners. Is this new character a representative of the future version of Section 31?
Georgiou’s Mirror Universe History 
Cronenberg’s character notes that the present is Georgiou’s “second universe, your third timeline.” This means that Georgiou has existed in the Mirror Universe version of 2257, the Prime Universe version of 2257-2258, and now, the Prime Universe version of 3188. 
April 5: Bizzaro First Contact Day
Cronenberg’s man with glasses also mentions April 5, 2063. In the Prime Universe, this is First Contact Day but in the Mirror Universe, it’s the day that humans killed the Vulcans who landed on Earth. This event is depicted in the opening scenes of the Star Trek: Enterprise episodes “In a Mirror, Darkly Part 1 and Part 2.” To date, those are the only episodes of Trek canon that take place entirely in the Mirror Universe. 
The Terran Empire’s Demise
When Georgiou and Cronenberg talk about the Terran Empire versus the Federation, he points out that the Federation “endures, unlike the Terran Empire that fell centuries ago.” We have no idea how this guy has access to so much history about a parallel universe, but the collapse of the Terran Empire references the Deep Space Nine episodes that take place in the Mirror Universe, starting with “Crossover.” In that episode, we learned that after Kirk asked Mirror Spock to make the Empire nicer in the TOS episode “Mirror, Mirror,” Mirror Spock basically did just that. But, his actions eventually led to the downfall of the Terran Empire. As far as we know, in canon, the most “recent” crossover to the Mirror Universe would have happened during Deep Space Nine, which is why Cronenberg says there hasn’t been a crossing between the two realities in “500 years.”
Ion storm
Speaking of the TOS episode “Mirror, Mirror,” while trying to help the Federation seed ship, the USS Discovery encounters an ion storm. Though this plot device has been used a lot in Trek, it was notably the reason why Kirk, Uhura, Scotty and Bones accidentally beamed to the Terran ISS Enterprise in “Mirror, Mirror.”
Burnham in command 
Oddly, though Burnham is the main character of the show, we really haven’t seen her in command of the USS Discovery. Other than her brief attempt at mutiny on the USS Shenzhou, and her command of the ISS Shenzhou, this is the only real time she’s been in legit command of a starship during the entire run of the series. 
Barzan Joined the Federation 
Nhan hails from a race of aliens called the Barzan. In the TNG episode “The Price,” the Barzan were trying to sell rights to a wormhole in their space. At that time, the Barzan were not a member of the Federation. Their planet was also super-reliant on other planets for assistance, which is why Nhan later says that her people are known for “poverty.” 
Airam’s funeral 
Nhan tells Burnham that she’ll never forget Airam’s funeral and what Burnham said. This references the Discovery Season 2 episode “The Red Angel,” which began with the entire crew honoring Airam’s sacrifice in the previous episode, “Project Daedalus.”
Federation Starchart References a Ton of Known Star Trek Planets
A huge holographic star chart at Starfleet Command contains the names of a bunch of planets from the entirety of Trek canon. Some of the names are mirrored, which makes it tricky to read them all, but here are the ones we caught
Ankari Homeworld: This alien species comes from the Voyager episodes “Equinox Parts 1 and 2.”
Cardassia Prime: The homeworld of the Cardassians, primarily from Deep Space Nine.
Thalos: While it’s tempting to read this as a misspelling of “Talos,” from TOS, it’s not. Several planets in the Thalos system were referenced in both TNG and DS9.
Halee: Historically this is a Klingon planet in the Beta Quadrant. It’s been referenced in Discovery and TNG, starting with the TNG episode “Heart of Glory.”
We Don’t Have Five-Year Missions Anymore 
Vance tells Burnham and Saru that Starfleet doesn’t “have five-year missions anymore.” This of course, references The Original Series, in which the Enterprise was on a 5-year-mission of exploration. Sura and Burnham are super-familiar with this policy, mostly because Pike was on a five-year mission on the Enterprise before he became temporary captain of the Discovery. Saru tells Vance that he feels like the DISCO crew come from a “revered time,” which seems to imply Saru has been reading a bunch of history while Burnham was on this mission. In this sense, Saru is aware that contemporary Starfleet must be huge fans of the exploits of the 23rd Century Starfleet. Basically, Saru gambles that the new Starfleet is filled with people who are, in a sense, classic Star Trek fans. He’s not wrong.
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ashroadtrek-blog · 7 years ago
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The Menagerie: Part 1
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Air Date: November 17, 1966
Writer: Gene Roddenberry
Director: Marc Daniels
Preface: I’m still ironing out the kinks in how I write reviews for Star Trek, what information to include and how to present the material in an interesting and engaging way. I’m not going to try to pump out as many reviews a day as I can; instead, I’m going to limit them to two a day at most because I felt my last three were fairly weak. I’ve also changed the ‘skip?’ in my Subjective Ranking Sheet to ‘rewatch?’ because as a Trekkie since I was 13, I don’t believe any of the material should be skipped - suck it up and watch everything, including utter garbage like Code of Honor. Instead, I’m grading episodes on whether or not I’m going to revisit them in the future. I might go back and edit past entries, I don’t know. Without further adeiu, let’s talk about The Menagerie: Part 1.
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I really enjoyed The Menagerie. I thought it was a well done thriller that kept me guessing as to just what the hell is driving Spock to falsify orders, ditch his beloved (or at least, respected) captain, abduct Pike (against his will, it appears) and commit mutiny against Starfleet (as the first Vulcan in Starfleet, this does not bode well) to risk the death penalty in what looks like it’s a misguided attempt to rescue Fleet Admiral Pike from the prison of his thoroughly disabled body. 
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I got the impression that Pike was refusing to go along with Spock’s plan because he flashed twice when Spock speaks with him alone. I have no doubt that Spock has heard the ‘subspace chatter’ that Admiral Mendez refers to (which Kirk and McCoy haven’t caught - typical Spock, always looking to learn) and formulated the plan he’s putting into motion in this episode. 
Furthermore, when Spock reveals Pike to McCoy aboard the Enterprise, Pike keeps beeping NO after Bones asks if he’s okay. Spock plays some falsified record tapes with Kirk’s orders, and Pike keeps beeping NO.
Pike knows what Spock is up to - and he doesn’t want him to do it. Pike is a prisoner in his own body, an object of pity (Mendez didn’t even have the heart to discharge him from service) - and yet he is valiant to the end, because he knows that Spock courts death by attempting to take him back to Talos IV. He may be an ‘invalid’ (a term used by Mendez), but he is not without his honor; he’d make a Klingon proud, and so would Spock in his foolish, yet noble attempt to give Pike a better life at any cost. 
The cost: Spock and Kirk’s lives. The episode ends after Spock’s initial hearing, and I’m guessing the next episode deals with them in orbit around Talos IV, finishing the trial and getting Pike to the surface to live out his days in an illusory paradise with Vina. 
Yeah, I’ve seen the episode before, but it was so much better this time. Even though The Cage is reused, having seen that episode before starting the series gives me a new appreciation for Pike and Spock, and I might not have appreciation for the former had I not gotten to know him in The Cage. Spock, well who doesn’t love Spock by now? 
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Who wouldn’t love that sly grinning devil?
The relationship between Kirk and Spock is being tested in this episode, and so is Spock’s relation to the crew. 
Kirk attempts to explore every alternative before reluctantly considering that Spock may be up to something - falsifying orders to divert to Starbase 11 is bad enough, but then he falsifies more orders, impersonates a superior officer, breaks into a sensitive area, assaults several technicians, tampers with Starfleet communications equipment, steals the fucking Enterprise, abducts a superior officer against his will, obstructs justice, and overall commits some serious mutiny (not necessarily in that order.) 
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Makes SOMEONE look like an amateur...
Hell, Kirk insists even during the trial that Spock must have a logical reason behind his actions, even while Mendez is intent on throwing the book at him. You have to admire the bond between Kirk and Spock that lets them get through this, a weaker captain would capitulate to the Commodore’s will. This is the sort of mutual trust and respect that makes their friendship legendary and galvanizes the Enterprise crew. 
Bones just can’t believe Spock would go to these lengths, that he’d pull a stunt of this magnitude. Spock and McCoy have their banter, McCoy may not even particularly like Spock’s cold, logical attitude but it’s clear he trusts and even respects the man. Sure, some of his argument against Spock’s actions hinge on “Vulcan’s don’t do this! Vulcan’s can’t do that! Spock hates his human half, he’d never do anything so human!”, but maybe after this big event he’ll consider Spock a little more human - after all,  Spock’s attempt to rescue Pike and ease his suffering is highly indicative of an emotional reaction.
I mean, how logical is it to risk death for Pike when Pike is still alive? One may get the idea that Spock and Pike spitballed this idea about Talos IV at some point in their 11 years, 4 months, and 5 days serving together, but I think it’s more likely that Spock  put together a plan to help the man he respected so deeply he’d go against cold logic and risk death for.
Goddamn, Spock is awesome.
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One thing to note is that the officers on Starbase 11 are almost all wearing gold flower badges, rather than the Starfleet Delta. I found a wonderfully informative article on the matter, but the TL;DR is that someone on the production side thought that every starship had a different badge denoting their ship, but that was an error and different divisions have different badges; Miss Piper and Commodore Mendez wearing the badges of Starbase Duty personnel. 
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How goofy are those uniforms? I assume they’re the 23rd century dress uniforms, and I’m having a tough time deciding if they’re better or worse than the 24th century ones. 
I also want to note the security personnel and the yeoman who had to sit in on the trial. 
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These people are witnesses to the trial of the century! Their senior officers are all involved in some sort of conspiracy to violate a Starfleet general order that carries the death penalty. Just another day on the old NCC-1701, or were some of them quietly having their minds blown? 
There are a few other miscellaneous things to cover, like The Cage-style gooseneck monitor with a screen the size of my ancient tracfone in Mendez’s office.
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A classic piece of technology.
There’s also the bits of The Cage that are replayed here; once we were out of the ‘envelope’ (as Gene Roddenberry calls the framing episode) I skipped them for the most part, but I still found things to appreciate, such as the design of the Talosians:
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Psychic dicks
And I also like the surface of Talos IV - nevermind it’s a matte painting, plastic and styrofoam desert, I really like deserts no matter how they’re depicted:
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And we finally saw a shuttlecraft! Classic Kirk move, pushing things to the edge of death in a gambit to further his agenda. How much does that scene say to the trust Kirk has for Spock, how much trust he has in Spock’s respect for human life as well as Kirk’s life. In a way, I think Spock pulling the shuttle in and risking failure by exposing his mutiny goes to show that no matter what, he values life above all else - and his gambit to help Pike (someone he trusts and respects just as much as, if not more than, Kirk) live a better life however he can is the impetus for this episode.
If Spock is willing to go this far for Pike, what does that tell Kirk their own relationship could develop into? 
Rating: 4/5, Rewatch
While it may rely on re-used footage from The Cage towards the middle/end, this is a solid thriller that really has a lot more depth than it would initially appear and says a lot about the relationship between him and Kirk. 
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