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valetteofroshar · 2 years ago
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My guidance counselor said it’s not healthy to take joy from disemboweling cremling’s
- Nan Balat, probably
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currymanganese · 1 year ago
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It would be so funny to me if Jasnah, after all Shallan's agonizing over whether she would discover her theft, could use the 'dud' Soulcaster anyway.
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cosmerepolls · 2 months ago
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What's Your Opinion - Balat Davar
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xoshepard · 1 year ago
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me: did nan balat kill shallan's dad?
first line of his chapter: nan balat liked killing things
me: 😶
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itacoisa · 2 years ago
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Dalinar, Dalinar... - Lendo O Caminho dos Reis #2 | Arquivos de Cosmere
Dando sequência aos meus comentários da leitura de O Caminho dos Reis, dos quais POSSUEM SPOILERS e ninguém lerá.
Comentando COM SPOILERS da página 162 a 341 (Capítulo 8 ao 17).
No Capítulo 8 , após não ter sido aceita como pupila de Jasnah, Shallan insiste e não consegue de novo, mas como Shallan é vedenaria e não desiste nunca, ela vai atrás de apostilas e consegue ser admitida pela Paola Carosella de Roshar pelo cansaço por sua força de vontade.
Mas nesses capítulos quem conquistou meu coração foi ele: Yalb. O marinheiro é golpista, poliglota, ator e inteligente!!! Será que ele vai sumir da história? Gostaria que ele acompanhasse a Shallan agora, rs.
Inclusive, aproveitando o ensejo, indico aqui A Trilogia do Império, em que a protagonista é uma mulher e ela recebe a ajuda de seus “servos” para continuar lidando com as tarefas de ser uma senhora, é muito bom, tem até espionagem.
Agora, uma coisa que eu errei foi quanto ao irmão Kabsal, ele só apareceu e foi embora, não ajudando a Shallan como imaginei.
Enquanto isso, no capítulo 9 e 10, Kaladin continua fudido, mas agora ele já implantou a sementinha na dúvida na nossa cabeça, uma vez que passou a questionar algumas decisões sobre a guerra que está travando... HMMMM.
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Outra coisa, será que a Syl (a espreno que agora ta assombrando o coitado) de alguma forma está protegendo ele? Ou é simplesmente o poder do protagonismo? Já que por ele não ter morrido é MAIS DO QUE UM MILAGRE.
Aaaah, e também descobrimos que Kaladin quase foi um mediciner.
Nos capítulos 11 e 14, Kaladin resolve mudar de vida (após quase abrir mão dela) e agora quer REVOLUCIONAR OS CARREGADORES DE PONTES! Eu só quero ver o que esse querido vai inventar para melhorar a situação deles (já que, convenhamos, só fazer exercício não vai mudar muita coisa...) e como vai tentar convencer os outros a entrar nesta empreitada (uma vez que todo mundo já aceitou que vai morrer, então pra que o esforço???).
Aaah, nesse meio tempo tiveram TRÊS interlúdios. O primeiro é sobre um grupo que procura o Hoid, o segundo sobre o Nan Balat, irmão de Shallan e o terceiro e último sobre Szeth, que nada mais é do que um instrumento praticamente, totalmente objetificado.
Então, vamos a parte mais diferente dessas páginas lidas: Dalinar, seus filhos e seu sobrinho, o Rei. Nos capítulos 12 e 13, fomos apresentados a esses personagens e, tirando o Elhokar (que é o rei), eu gostei muito deles, principalmente Adolin.
De antemão, já é possível prever que haverá um conflito entre Dalinar e Sadeas e eu sinto que alguém desse núcleo vai morrer, cheguei até a imaginar o Dalinar sendo o rei, já que jurei que Elhokar ia morrer pro demônio-do-abismo.
Inclusive, como me prontifiquei a fazer alguns comentários e anotações, achei melhor já ir montando algumas árvores genealógicas para não ir me perdendo, hahaha. (Ainda pretendo fazer da família da Shallan).
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Os capítulos 15, 18 e 19, foram mais focados em Dalinar. E, apesar de ser o núcleo mais devagar, é o que mais promete. Sobre o Dalinar eu acho ele... num sei. Ele é inteligente, mas parece ingênuo demais?? Esse jeitinho dele, é bom e ruim ao mesmo tempo, mas torço por ele. Já quanto ao Rei, ele que se foda kakakaka.
A minha expectativa é que o rei o acuse de traição, parece que tudo aponta para esse caminho. Agora, a relação dele com Sadeas eu acho um pouco estranha, se não fosse o código que ele segue, ele tava é metendo o pau nele.
Agora, o Kaladin, nos capítulos 16 e 17, invocou o SUS e foi carregar a ponte, é certo que ele vai revolucionar tudo. Entretanto, eu tô achando o passado dele meio chatinho e, por enquanto, não vi nada de interessante...
Até esse momento, foram 383 páginas lidas e continuou ótimo, mas acho que está na hora de mudar o clima, já estou quase enjoando de tudo aí, viu? Bora Sanderson, cadê o plot twist???? Ah, e a Shallan, por onde andas? Um beijo Shallan.
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nevertheless-moving · 7 months ago
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Kaladin set down his cup with noticeably shaky hands, his face drained of color. "He killed my men, Shallan," he said, voice loud in the suddenly silent room.
Several heads slowly turned to look at Nan Balat, who had gone far paler than Kaladin could ever manage, with a few blotches of red on his cheeks for contrast. "What? What men? When? Where? I didn't kill any men! You mean people, right? I didn't kill any people!"
"He was my brother," Shallan said, tears in her eyes. "And you killed him to save Amaram."
"Sixteen of my men, Shallan. Sixteen."
"Of course you never talked about this," Adolin muttered. "Of course not." Why would they sit down and talk about things.
"What—" Dalinar started to say, but Navani shushed him, gently taking his elbow to indicate they should leave.
"Oh, I'm sure they died in glorious battle defending HIghmarshall Amaram. What a wonderful brightlord to defend. You must have been very proud."
"Cenn. Dallet. Cyn. Lyndel —" Kaladin was standing now.
"Yes, men die in war. You're telling me they have names too? Shocking, I tell you. Truly revolutionary information." Shallan stepped toward him, expression contemptuous.
Renarin opened the door with a slight creak, dragging Sigzil by the arm to force him to leave.
"They weren't even fighting Shallan. They were just in his path. We barely understood that a Shardbarer was there. Cenn was fifteen and already injured, and your brother trampled him with a horse."
Navani all but pushed Dalinar out the door, repeatedly hushing him as he tried to interject.
"Wait, what?" Jushu said. "This — this is about Helaran? Shallan, you knew about this? For how long?"
"Blood of my fathers," Adolin moaned. "Of course."
"I'm not leaving," Teft hissed. "Lad needs someone on his side."
"He was my brother Kaladin. My brother." Shallan was openly weeping now. Judging by the snot, it probably wasn't a lightweaving to make Kaladin feel worse.
"I know," Kaladin said, face twisting in guilt. "I know. I'm so sorry, Shallan." He reach one hand out but pulled it back immediately. "I — you have no idea how much I regret defending Amaram, but I did the only thing I could at the time."
Shallan let out a broken cry, then charged forward, knocking over a chair to reach Kaladin.
Adolin scrambled over the table, trying to reach them in time, but his wife was already there, throwing her arms around bridgeboy.
"I'm sorry," she sobbed. "I hate you. I shouldn't have said any of that. I love you. I'm sorry."
"Oh thank the Heralds," Adolin said, slumping back. He didn't really know what his plan would be if they actually started attacking each other. Cry, probably.
"Kaladin Stormblessed killed Helaran?" Wikim whispered.
Adolin winced. Yeah. This was probably how this was always going to go.
At least Kaladin hadn't written a book about it.
Shallan and Kaladin never actually talk about him killing Helaran until well post Oathbringer, when, and it is important it happens in exactly this way, she and Balat are having a petty sibling fight in front of company and she yells "KALADIN CAN YOU KILL MY NEXT OLDEST BROTHER"
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onlycosmere · 5 years ago
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Questioner: There's a scene where you can see from the perspective of Nan Balat, Shallan's brother, where he's maiming an insect. It's described as soothing his aches. Is that in any way related to how Kaladin feels depressed and down during the Weeping even in his early childhood?
Brandon Sanderson: What's happening to Nan Balat is magically enhanced. What's happening to Kaladin is mostly just chemical depression. Be he is really too young to be diagnosed with depression during some of these events, but he's got the seeds in there. So Kaladin is not magically depressed. Kaladin is just legitimately a person with depression. Nan Balat... What's up with him is... ah... being exaggerated by certain forces moving in on Roshar. 
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macreadsstormlight · 4 years ago
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So going off of this in theory songlings could just play the wii music
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jewishdainix · 2 years ago
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Every flashback to shallan's past paints SUCH a picture. Likw. Wow.
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xoshepard · 1 year ago
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ooooh finished part 1... excited to see what szeth's chapter has. ALSO NAN BALAT BC SHALLAN'S INNER MONOLOGUE MENTIONED HIM AND IM WONDERING IF HE KILLED HER DAD....
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koravelliumavast · 2 years ago
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Vasher for the sexyman, he might not try to look good but he’s a returned after all
And blushweaver of course
So we’ve got Vasher, Lightsong, Dalinar, Kelsier, Adolin, Zellion, Kaladin, Szeth, Raoden, Hoid, Susebron, Elend, Gavilar, Taravangian, Axies, Ishar, Nale, Hrathen, shallans dad, Huio, Moash,Jezrien, Mraize, Teft, The Lopen, Nan Balat, Sadeas, Lezian, Renarin, Amaram, Rayse, Sazed for the guys
And the ladies have Blushweaver, Jasnah, Shallan, Navani, Vin, Siri, MeLann, Steris, Serene, Shan, Rysn, Cord, Hesina, Raboniel, Edgli, Venli, Cultivation, Aesudan, Ilali, Shalash, leshwi, radiant, veil, Lessie/Paalm, Evi, Allrienne, Marasi, Lalai, Vivenna, the Stump, Paloma
Now adding a spren bracket where all the spren are
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lizziestudieshistory · 3 years ago
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Books of 2021: The Way of Kings - Brandon Sanderson
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I have a few things to acknowledge here before we get into the proper review - this is REALLY LONG and VERY CRITICAL. I promise you I do genuinely love The Stormlight Archive, but if you are someone who doesn’t like to see criticism of Sanderson or Stormlight, then please don’t read this.
This review has spoilers for The Stormlight Archive - you have been warned.
I’ve made no secret of my love for the Stormlight Archive - it’s my favourite ongoing fantasy series. I’ve also avoided reviewing it, and I’ve been putting it off since I first read it back in 2016 (could be 2017? It was a while ago.) How could I review something I love so much? How do I approach reviewing a 1,100 page epic fantasy novel? I just didn’t know. To be honest, I still don’t. I adore this series, it’s become part of my identity - if you asked any of my friends what’s Lizzie’s favourite book they would probably say Stormlight. Maybe Lord of the Rings but that’s a different kettle of fish.
I’ve reread The Stormlight Archive annually for the last five years. I promise myself I won’t reread it and let myself come back in anticipation for the next book. I’ve failed miserably every year. And these aren’t small undertakings - they’re each 1,000 pages and there’s four of them now! For context I usually only read 2,500 pages a month. 
So, I’ve finally decided to review these doorstoppers dressed up as fantasy novels. These reviews are mainly for myself, they’re going to be self indulgent, long, and focus on what I want to discuss like characters, structure, and prose - rather than reviewing the things I should probably talk about (like the actual plot…) I want to work through all the things I love about this behemoth of the modern fantasy genre, but also focus on its flaws. The praise for Sanderson is everywhere, so I want to work through my honest opinion of these books, work out why I love them, and I’ll invite you on this journey of self discovery with me. 
Structure
I’m yet to work out why I’m starting with structure but we are, I guess it helps with the framing. In case you’re reading this having not read The Way of Kings, each book in the Stormlight Archive is made up of 5 main parts that follow major viewpoint characters, and the parts are split up with small interludes that expand the worldbuilding, follow important secondary characters, or foreshadow future moments. Everybook is centred on a key character - in The Way of Kings it’s Kaladin - who we follow in the present day as a major viewpoint character and explore their backstory through a flashback sequence. Each book also has a prologue which retells the assassination of the Alethi king, Gavilar Kholin, and an epilogue from Wit. 
Firstly, this book takes FAR too long to get going and even longer to get into as a reader. I’m not joking when I say there are FIVE introductory chapters: the prelude, a prologue, Cenn’s second prologue (technically the first chapter but it’s a prologue), Kaladin’s introduction, and Shallan’s introduction. It’s too much. We’re jumping around, nothing really makes sense, and we’re not sure how these characters are related. They could be taking place in different worlds for all you know on a first read.
When I first read this book I was a lot more patient with long introductions and multiple false starts - I had the time to dedicate to getting into the story. I could, and did, forgive the THREE false starts to this story before we get to Kaladin’s first chapter. However, the opening structure of this novel is a mistake. If someone gives up in this section I honestly don’t blame them - if I was reading this for the first time in 2021 I probably would too.
The prelude and prologue are both excellent. The prelude in particular is weird and confusing but also sets up a clear mystery and sense of the sheer scope of this story. Szeth’s prologue, the first time we see Gavilar’s assassination, is flawed but still wonderful. The fight scene needed a bit of cutting, for my tastes, and I think the introduction to the magic system is clumsy - there’s far too much obvious info dumping and it needed some serious editing, especially as the complicated use of the magic that Szeth uses is barely relevant in this book. However, I think the Herald’s giving up the Oathpact and a magical assassin is great! They’re a bit weird and you’re not sure what’s going on, but it’s engaging. 
Then there’s Cenn. Poor, innocent Cenn. I’m sorry but he’s completely unnecessary. Independently of the rest of the introduction to the Way of Kings Cenn’s chapter would be a pretty good prologue as he’s there to set up our main hero Kaladin from an outside perspective. We love Kaladin and Cenn’s chapter is fine for establishing him as a typical fantasy hero – he’s a warrior, cares about the people, and so forth.
However, Cenn’s chapter in the context bogs down the opening too much. It’s too long, not particularly relevant, and adds yet ANOTHER prologue to this already enormous book. Cenn’s chapter offers nothing to the reader that we don’t learn later on in the text when the content of Cenn’s chapter makes more sense. We even see the exact same sequence of events from Kaladin’s perspective in a flashback! Not having Cenn’s chapter would add more interest to Kaladin’s character and add more weight to the flashback sequence because we wouldn’t have met Kaladin at his peak (sort of…?) 
Kaladin’s flashbacks aren’t that engaging as it is, he’s a fairly standard fantasy hero from a small village who ends up leaving his happy family to go to war. So leaving a small mystery around him in addition to ‘how did he become a slave’ would help with my engagement. It would leave me wondering how reliable is Kaladin as a narrator, is he really as good with the spear as he claims? I wouldn’t know but Cenn’s chapter removes all the mystery apart from ‘how does Kaladin become a slave’. It needs to go to make Kaladin more interesting and cut down on some of the unnecessary page count.
While we’re at it… Just cut out ALL the interludes in this book, except for the Szeth through line. I KNOW they are here for the Cosmere connections and to foreshadow things much later in the series. However, new readers and Stormlight only readers don’t know this and, quite frankly, they SUCK. In later books the interludes make sense but here they add so much tedious, pointless crap to an already bloated book. They’re too much and add next to nothing – other than seeing Szeth lose it as he kills people, that was fun (in a disturbing, creepy way… Can you tell I like Szeth?) Either this stuff needs to be relevant to the book we’re in now, or painfully obvious that we’re coming back to this stuff in later books. I still don’t know why we got Ishikk’s interlude with the Worldhoppers, and I completely forgot Nan Balat had an interlude. I’ve read this book 5 times… THAT IS HOW POINTLESS THEY ARE! Sanderson should weave the necessary foreshadowing into the main text, intersperse the perspectives we do need for THIS story into the main sections, or cut them out. When I get to the interludes I physically sigh and sometimes put the book down - now I just skip everything but Szeth - but on a first read they’re really off putting. 
To finish up with my complaints about the structure, and this is a big one for me - why do we have huge chunks of this book without major viewpoint characters? I’m biased here but Dalinar is probably the most important POV character in the story because he introduces the real stakes of the story. He has the groundbreaking visions of the past, he is the viewpoint we get into the politics of the war, he is the character who does and continues to have the most impact on the development of the story on his own.Yet, we don’t meet him until we’re 190 pages in… 
Sanderson alternates Shallan and Dalinar’s chapters between the five different parts and that means they vanish for 400 pages at a time. Why? I ended up caring about them right as we’re about to lose their viewpoint again for the next part. We needed to see the three major POV characters interwoven together throughout the five parts, not randomly dropped and picked back up again. The structure of this book was a mistake. 
Okay, I promise I do actually like this book…
Worldbuilding
Something I do love is the worldbuilding of Roshar, and I usually don’t care that much about worldbuilding. I can really appreciate good worldbuilding, especially on the history side of things, but for most novels it’s just fine? If I roughly know what’s going on with the world then we’re good, I can just get on with the story and not worry about it. However, Roshar is genuinely beautifully built! It takes A LOT to get me to visualise a world as I’m not a visual reader. I can feel the atmosphere, get to know characters, but can I imagine a face or setting? No.
There are three fantasy worlds that have allowed me to actually see the world and it’s landscape: Middle Earth, Discworld, and Roshar. The bleak, storm weathered landscape of the Shattered Plains is so embedded in my mind it’s ridiculous, the only place I can picture more is the Shire – and Lord of the Rings has a film to help it!
Now, to be fair it’s hard for me to separate the worldbuilding in The Way of Kings from the rest of the series, so I now have 4,000 pages worth of worldbuilding in my head… However, it’s certainly strong and I distinctly remember having a vivid image of understanding this world, the atmosphere, landscape, and so forth, on my first read. Although it did take me until Oathbringer to realise that everything, except humanity, was basically a crab… (I think that was just me being dense.)
I do think Roshar needs much more of its history to be expanded on. We don’t have much between the Last Desolation (don’t ask me to spell it's in-world title!) and it shows at times. I don’t expect something on the level of The Silmarillion for Roshar, however, I do think we need to see something more substantial in the period between the Desolations and the present day. We know about the Recreance, the attempted takeover of the Vorin Church, and the Sunmaker? That’s 4000 years! To put it into context it’s the distance between us and Jesus’s birth TWICE, it’s like we know about the end of the 11th Dynasty of Egypt, the Reformation, and the British Empire in our own history... We need to find a balance, especially as we get so much development of science in the later books. More history please - but this is a personal issue and a series wide problem, not just The Way of Kings.
Magic System
Now, this is controversial for Sanderson, but I’m going to skip this for now. This review is already well over 1,000 words long and I’ve not even started on the meat of the novel yet. The magic system isn’t really fleshed out in The Way of Kings, we only really know stuff about the Windrunners (in an abstract kind of way) and the very basics of the Knights Radiant in general. So I’m going to discuss the magic when I get around to reviewing Words of Radiance, Oathbringer, and Rhythm of War, basically whenever I have the energy and more space.
Safe to say I actually really like the magic system in the Stormlight Archive. I usually dislike hard magic systems (I think I’m the only person who dislikes Mistborn’s Allomancy - while very well developed, it’s a bit silly and is far too much for my tastes...) as they often take some of the wonder, mystery, and excitement of fantasy out of the story for me. However, I think surgebinding is a fun system and there is a lot more of it for use to discover, preserving some of that mystery. Oh and, if you were wondering, I would be a Skybreaker!
Prose
Okay if you read the structure section and were wondering - why is this woman still reading these books, you’re in for another head scratcher. 
If you’ve ever talked to me about literature you’ll know that there are two things I look for in a really good book: characters and prose. Now characters are something Sanderson does phenomenally well in the Stormlight Archive, but that’s not something you can tell 100 pages into a 1,000 page tome. You have to sit with the characters for a long time and give the author some page time to familiarise you with the people you’re following. If you trust him, Sanderson pulls off some stunning character arcs, especially in the long term and I’ll talk more about characters later on (or you can just skip this section? Up to you really!).
However, prose is something you notice immediately, and Sanderson’s is…utilitarian at best. At worst it’s abysmal. These days I’m very picky about prose, a utilitarian style is fine but a book is unlikely to become a new favourite of mine without good writing. This doesn’t mean I want or expect the writing to be flowery or elaborate, but it does mean I want, and appreciate it when, the prose suits the tone of the narrative and world. I must acknowledge that I’m in a (vocal) minority here, a lot of people either don’t notice Sanderson’s style or like it - I certainly didn’t mind it when I first read ther series - so this is definitely a subjective opinion but one I’m certainly not alone in. 
Nevertheless, for me Sanderson’s prose is overly simplistic, repetitive, and very American. Okay so the American is probably only noticeable if you’re not American. However, I’m used to fantasy having a certain Britishness to the writing style, even when the author isn’t British, but to me (as a Brit and fantasy reader) the Americanisms are painful at times… There is no way in hell I’m ever going to acknowledge that aluminium is aluminum no matter how many times Sanderson uses it! 
Yet it goes beyond a spelling issue because, let's be honest, in this day and age American English is widely spoken and regularly used in fantasy literature - you can’t escape from it as much as I want to. It’s in the style of writing and construction of sentences. The entire narrative reads like an American has decided to tell me a story using their colloquial, everyday speech. It’s a deliberate choice on Sanderson’s part to make things accessible and digestible, and for some people this works. I do think he has a fantastic style to get readers in, especially readers who are getting to grips with high epic fantasy as it’s one less barrier to entry in an already difficult novel. But it does mean rereading isn’t always the best experience and sometimes the writing can jar me out of the story. 
In places it’s too simple and colloquial, so much so the writing becomes clunky, clumsy, and unrealistic to the world he’s creating, especially in descriptive passages and dialogue. It reads like Sanderson could have used more lyrical or formal writing but deliberately chose not to - at the detriment of the prose. This is particularly noticeable with characters like Jasnah Kholin. Jasnah is a princess, brilliant scholar, and political mastermind, she’s known for her poise, elegance, and intelligence. Yet she often speaks like an everyday 21st century American and other characters who haven’t had the same education or training as she has? I can’t believe this for a moment, her dialogue is so egregious in places that it’s like I’ve been hit over the head with my own book! I physically cringe when she says things like ‘“scoot over here”’ (chapter 70, p.1083). WHY is Jasnah talking like this?! It doesn’t make sense to me – Shallan maybe, but Jasnah? No. It doesn’t fit with what we’ve been told about her character.
(Just as an aside, I loathe the word ‘scoot’ – it should be burnt from the English language as an abomination!)
Part of the issue with this is Sanderson usually doesn’t distinguish between the character's voices, both in the dialogue and prose. Most of the time if you dropped me into a random section of the Stormlight Archive with no context I honestly couldn’t tell you who’s speaking or narrating without the signposts Sanderson gives us. This isn’t a huge issue as he’s writing in third person limited, and with context and the chapter icons we know who we’re following. However, it does mean we don’t have any idea of character voice – in the general prose, internal narration/thought, or speech. What’s the difference between Kaladin’s dialogue and Jasnah’s? I have no idea from the sentence construction or speech patterns. Certain descriptions of how characters speak help to differentiate (Jasnah is commanding, Shallan squeaks, Kaladin grunts, etc.) but from their speech patterns I wouldn’t have a clue.
All of this comes back to Sanderson’s overly simple and Americanised style. It’s his choice and it does work for many people, but personally it doesn’t always work with the characters or story. I’m not expecting him to write like Robin Hobb or Guy Gavriel Kay, but some finesse and awareness of character would be appreciated, especially if it helped to differentiate character voices.
I’m also going to throw this out as a very personal issue because I’m not sure where else to put it… Sanderson has the worst sense of humour I’ve ever had the misfortune to read. The comedic moments are occasionally amusing… However, Shallan’s puns are worse than my Dad’s jokes. Every time she says something apparently ‘witty’ and someone else remarks how clever and funny she is I want to hit them... At best she’s mildly amusing, at worst she’s cruel. It’s never funny. (This only gets worse with Lift, I almost DNFed the entire series because of the Lift interlude in Words of Radiance. And don’t get me started on Lopen.)
Characters
At last! Something I genuinely love and the reason I read these books! Sanderson has created some of the best characters in modern fantasy in this series and they are the only reason I’m still going. I like the worldbuilding and plot, but I adore the character work in this book and the series as a whole. The characters are generally so good that, even when I dislike them, it's because I dislike them personally, not that they’re badly written characters! Usually I love Sanderson’s characters though, even when they’re incredibly flawed (looking at you Dalinar!) because he’s particularly good at complex character arcs. 
Szeth – I love Szeth, slightly irrationally for how much he’s in both this book and the series as a whole, but he’s one of my favourite “secondary” characters in the series! Szeth is actually the character who made me fall in love with the series in the first place, which feels weird to say because he only has five or six chapters in the entire novel. However, a magical assassin with a strong, if morally dubious, sense of duty and obligations? Sign me up! The opening prologue from Szeth’s perspective is wonderful - it’s far too info-dumpy but it’s highly engaging and one hell of a way to open the series. 
What really intrigued me about Szeth was his role as the interlude throughline character for The Way of Kings. His internal conflict between his obligation to follow the Truthless’ laws and his personal morality is fascinating. Szeth’s character development has been one of the highlights of the entire series for me, especially as we explore his personal morality, questioning of power, and commitment to law and justice. This conflict is one of the reasons I love the Skybreakers in general and I sincerely hope we get to see more of this (and their conflict with the theoretically similar, although realistically very different, Windrunners) in book 5. However, Szeth is a promise that Sanderson hasn’t kept yet. So much has been built up around his character and we haven’t explored him properly (as of Rhythm of War) and I’m mad about it! He’s an incredibly interesting character, morally and thematically, and I hope Sanderson can live up to the hype he’s built up around him in the first four books of the series. 
Kaladin – Okay the real reason we’re all here, the shining beacon of the Stormlight Archive, everyone’s favourite heroic bridgeman: Kaladin Stormblessed. Confession time – I didn’t love Kaladin the first time I read The Way of Kings. Don’t get me wrong I liked him but I’m generally not a massive fan of underdog superhero narratives. (I’m still not a fan of Bridge Four in general for the same reason, I would apologise but I’m not sorry…)
Kaladin spends most of this novel running bridges for Highprince Sadeas on the Shattered Plains. Unjustly enslaved by a corrupt member of the aristocracy, Kaladin is fighting to keep himself and his bridgecrew alive during one of the most pointless “wars” I've read in a fantasy novel - the pointlessness isn’t actually a criticism. He’s facing systematic oppression and disregard for human life, as well as battling his own depression and forming a bond with a spren named Syl (I absolutely adore Syl! But I want to talk about her in my review for Words of Radiance.)
So… I’ve always been frustrated with Kaladin’s fundamental drive to save people and take responsibility for people’s deaths, even when there was nothing he could have done to save them. This book is probably the worst for it out of the four currently published and I just found it a bit much because I personally struggle to relate to his attitude. This level of personal responsibility is a completely alien concept to me, at least to this level, and it’s Kaladin’s entire thing - his driving personality trait - and I just didn’t get it. Kaladin and I are very different people and for a long time I really struggled to relate to him on the same level everyone else seems to in this book. It also didn’t help that the main plot around Kaladin running bridges, struggling with his depression, and trying to keep his men alive is very repetitive… So when you’re in the midst of it and struggling to connect quite so deeply with Kaladin this book can become a slog - yet, the pay off for his struggles is so satisfying and it is very much worth it for making the end feel earned. 
However, my issues with connecting to Kaladin is definitely on me and this is by no means to say Kaladin is a badly written character, I’ve always admired how well Kaladin is drawn in this book. Within a few chapters I understood who Kaladin is, and really loved the conflict he had with his depression and role as a fantasy hero. It's beautifully painful to watch and, even when you’re a bit ambivalent about Kaladin, you really care about whether he and Bridge Four are going to survive the bridgecrews – and the climax sequence with Kaladin becoming Stormblessed again at the Tower is still one of my favourite moments in the entire series!
However, on this reread of the series I had a completely different experience to what I’ve had on previous reads, and a lot of this is down to Rhythm of War. I don’t want to say too much here because it’ll involve spoilers for Rhythm of Warm but having seen Kaladin confront his, as Ron Weasley would say, “saving people thing” and really struggle to keep functioning as Stormblessed, I was so much more on board with this book. Rhythm of War’s much more personal approach to Kaladin really helped me understand him as a person, not just the underdog hero. The struggle with his sense of self, the way his depression impacts his ability to act, and the way he’s moving forward in Rhythm of War let me appreciate the character work for Kaladin in The Way of Kings. The struggle, graft, and determination, especially given his mindset, is much more admirable when I can strip away the focus on doggedly protecting everyone no matter the personal cost. 
Kaladin and I are very different people, but that’s okay and I’ve come to appreciate him a lot more in the last 7 months. Now I can happily adore him alongside everyone else, and not just nod along with the rest of the fandom because I understand he’s objectively a well written character. Also Kaladin’s mental health rep is some of the best I’ve seen in an epic fantasy series. However, I would approach this book, and series, carefully if you’re sensitive to depression.
Shallan – confession time round two: I hate Shallan. I really loathe her on a deeply personal level. And I’m still bitter about it because I used to love her, when I first read this book she was my favourite character! This was partly due to relating to her and partly due to my frustration with Kaladin. However, as I read Words of Radiance I grew uncomfortable with her and by Oathbringer it became a full on HATED of her…and it’s never gone away.
I first met Shallan when I was a shy 18-year-old, budding historian and scholar. I got Shallan, I loved her plotline, and found Khabranth a lot more interesting than the endless bridgeruns with Kaladin (sorry Kaladin!) I connected with her because she represented (projected) a lot of what I was at the time - and still am today, just an older version of that person. She was the main character that really drew me into the story - yes I loved Szeth and thought he was brilliant, but Szeth is largely absent from this novel and Shallan is the main female lead. 
And then I got hit in the face by the infamous Words of Radiance “Boots” chapter, and I immediately got iffy vibes, then there was the Chasm sequence, and so many other moments that made me uncomfortable. I’ll avoid spoilers and, for now, just say I got hit in the face by Shallan’s innate privilege, her causal abuse of social rank, and complete lack of social and self awareness. To top it off the narrative gives her no consequences for this and even rewards her for her behaviour, rather than making Shallan work through the issues around classism (something I, as a Brit, am hyper aware of and it SHOULD NOT under ANY circumstances be ignored, especially with Kaladin’s narrative running parallel to Shallan.) However, this is later book issues and a major dropped theme that I’m fuming about, but I still found I liked Shallan in THIS book when I reread the series.
Not this time. 
There are moments in The Way of Kings where we can already see Shallan’s privilege and complete disregard of anyone who is remotely lower than her in the Vorin hierarchy. The scene with the book merchant stands out. No one in that scene is innocent, and I’m much less annoyed by it than I am at the “Boots” scene, however, it shows an early form of Shallan’s complete inability to reflect on her own behaviour towards those with less power than herself. She’s casually abusive and manipulative, but no one really calls her out on it. The few moments when someone does confront Shallan about it, and the narrative consistently forgives her because Sanderson allows her to come across as the victor in each of the arguments. This isn’t to say Shallan’s causal abuse of the Vorin social system shouldn’t be present in the book. It’s actually very realistic, in our world white people (especially white women) have behaved like Shallan for centuries. However, what does matter is the narrative framing. However, I’ll dig into this when I get to reviewing Words of Radiance because a lot of my planned review for that book is centred around this issue.
I’m also resentful that Shallan’s character in The Way of Kings is a complete lie – we don’t know her at all, but not in the same way as Dalinar? We KNOW something is off with Dalinar, we KNOW he was a terrible person and a warmonger from the way people talk about the Blackthorn – but Shallan’s reveal largely comes out of nowhere in some respects and I HATE that the person I loved so much 5 years ago was a complete lie. I’m a bitter person and I will continue to hold a grudge until Shallan dies or the series ends, whichever comes first.
Jasnah – my problematic QUEEN. Is Jasnah a shitty person? Yes. Do I love her anyway? Yes. Difference is I knew Jasnah was shitty from the start… I like problematic characters, I just hate being lied to (*cue insincere smile at Shallan*)
Jasnah is a difficult character to talk about in this book because we don’t know much about her other than her public persona, however, she’s a large part of why I love it so much. I just like brilliant women who would kill me, okay? It also helps that she's an historian, I have a soft spot for murderous historians. I’ll talk more about Jasnah when I review Oathbriner, hopefully that won’t be in another 5 years…! I just wanted to highlight that I do love a female character in this book!
Actually on the topic, Sanderson is still a shitty author for female friendships – he has included more female characters in Stormlight but why are there no female friendships that aren’t rooted in backstabbing and lies?!
Dalinar – if Jasnah is my problematic Queen then Dalinar has to be the problematic King. Dalinar is my favourite Stormlight Archive character. I could wax lyrical about what a BRILLIANT character he is. You may not like Dalinar, you may not forgive him, but you have to admit he is the best written character in ANYTHING Sanderson has written, and one of the best in modern fantasy. Nevertheless, much like Jasnah I’m going to wait until I review Oathbringer before I talk about Dalinar because I can’t do him justice without his flashbacks. However, I will tell you a story about the time I first met Dalinar Kholin.
So, I first read The Way of Kings on my commute back and forth to Worcester Cathedral because I had a work placement in the Cathedral’s archives. I’d been doing this commute for months and reached the point where I knew when to get off the train by feeling, no need to check the stations (this is relevant).
 I was on my commute home, and as I was walking to the train station I started part two. I met Adolin and he was fine. I was a bit confused because this was a whole new perspective and set of characters, but I was doing okay. (Yes I was walking and reading, no I do not recommend this arrangement for health reasons.)
And then I met Dalinar. As I got on the train we got into his own head, with the mystery of the visions just starting, the hints towards his complicated relationship with Elhokar, and the amazing fight with the Chasmfiend. Bearing in mind I was automatically doing my commute through this – I’d become so invested in Dalinar, I missed my transfer on the train. I’ve never done anything like this before in my life. I’m paranoid about it! But I was so engrossed in this aged general, who was potentially going mad, that I missed the stop on my train and didn’t even notice until we hit Birmingham New Street.
I was so in love with Dalinar Kholin that I travelled to the wrong city… And my love for him has only gotten stronger*.
Conclusion
Overall I have a complicated relationship with The Way of Kings, and The Stormlight Archive in general. I love this series, I particularly adore the characters and character work Sanderson is doing as the books continue. However, it is severely overhyped. There are a lot of flaws in this book, especially with the writing and structural aspect of this novel. It’s poorly paced, clumsily written, and lacking finesse. For me Sanderson is an okay writer but a wonderful storyteller. As a storyteller he’s made a huge contribution to the fantasy genre and I’m here for the major improvement he’s made in popularising more complex character work and the inclusion of mental health representation. We’re just seeing the start of this shift in the fantasy genre and I’m excited to see where Stormlight and fantasy are going to go with this movement. 
However, as a writer he has a long way to go in improving his craft of writing. These are big books, and I will often forgive mistakes with narrative structure in books of this size because they are so huge. However, this doesn’t mean we shouldn’t acknowledge them when reviewing the novel. Mistakes were made, especially in The Way of Kings, and are still being made but Sanderson has been slowly improving with the later books.
There’s a lot to love in The Stormlight Archive - the worldbuilding is insane, the characters are incredible, and the plots are gripping. I love them, and I will continue to eagerly await the next installments! But they’re far from perfect, and that’s okay. Sanderson has captured the imaginations of thousands of fantasy readers and I would highly recommend you give these books a go, despite my critical review. This is a fabulous time to be a fantasy reader and The Stormlight Archive is one of the most exciting reasons to be reading the genre!
*Dalinar and I are going to be on thin ice if Sanderson continues with his character as he did in Rhythm of War, but again I’ll address that when I review Rhythm of War.
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lightweaver-in-shadesmar · 4 years ago
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I realized I haven’t posted an update on my dad’s Stormlight read in a while! So here’s an overview of his recent progress:
He just got to the part where Taravangian the mYsTeRy man kills the gambler and takes Szeth’s oathstone
He doesn’t like Nan Balat
Didn’t like Dalinar until he realized that he uses chull-pulled bridges instead of bridgmen, and then he very begrudgingly said “...I guess he’s okay then”
He thinks Adolin is annoying, but it’s still book one! Adolin so he’s got time to come around
Kaladin is his favorite
Which by the way, he pronounces as cull-AW-den. As in how you would prounouce the Scottish battle of Culloden
Which is ENDLESSLY funny to me cuz I’ve never heard Kaladin said that way before
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deadmomjokes · 4 years ago
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First time Stormlight Archives Read-thru: The Way of Kings, Interlude 1
I’m sorry, “interlude 1″? Interlude? One? As in, there are multiple of them. Hoo boy. Why the flip not, I guess we’re doing this.
Ishikk
Stop. Giving. Me. Gods. To. Remember!! I did not become a religious studies major, and there was a reason! Enough!!
Is this yet another freaking unrelated, untethered subplot to keep track of out of nowhere, or is this some of that “You should have read the other Cosmere books first otherwise you’ll miss out on Easter Eggs” stuff people kept warning me about? I just don’t have the time to be reading Brando Sando’s full bibliography, I’m barely carving out time to read these behemoths that are so long that they apparently need INTERLUDES?
Major points for “Grump,” “Blunt,” and “Thinker,” tho. Been there, done that, I feel ya, my guy.
Nan Balat
Freakin... We mentioned this dude earlier with whats-her-bucket, yeah? *flips back to check* Okay, so she didn’t kill him, like I assumed. But he was involved--
OKAY now, hello sadist! Maybe she should have offed him...
Brother? BROTHER? Okay, Shallan, sweetie, maybe you ought to just, you know, let your house fade into obscurity and stick with Jasnah because HONEY. Your family is JACKED. UP. I’m not nearly as attached to you as to my sadboi Kaladin, but babe, you deserve better. Cut your losses while you have some prospects in the world.
Scaly lobster dogs. Thanks. Did not need that!
“Only he and Shallan had escaped unscathed.” Says the man ripping living creatures apart because it soothes him to feel them suffer in his hands. Yes, you’re surely the picture of stability and sanity. I now have SERIOUS concerns about Shallan’s mental health.
Szeth
So it’s obvious to me that Branderson is working ol buddy here around to be a sympathetic character in the future by emphasizing how much he doesn’t want to do these bad things but is forced to. I’m smelling a redemption arc, obvs.
How the heck do I say this man’s name, anyway? This has been bothering me CONSTANTLY.
What would happen if my guy’s “oathstone” were destroyed or lost? Would he be free? Or would he, like, combust?
Also, I’m sure it’s going to come up at some point inconvenient and distracting, but why does Mr. son-son-Vallano link back to, I’m guessing, his grandfather, when the Shin author Jasnah and Shallan both talk about links back to her mother? Why is Szeth skipping identifying with his dad? Does everyone in this book have daddy issues?
Final Verdict
Isn’t the point of an interlude to be kind of a rest break you really don’t need to be paying attention to?
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Yes I’m a bit salty, but after a very long day fighting our drywall and its magically-migrating studs to try and put up some shelves that shouldn’t have taken so dang long to wrangle, I have little patience left over for the ever-increasing pile of questions that crop up at highly inconvenient and distracting times.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s good, and I’mma keep reading happily, but I’m gonna be a bit grouchy for a while.
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shouldprobablybereading · 3 years ago
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Vorin men being illiterate is always funny but I think sanderson peaked when nan balat had to choose whether he wanted his love letters to be read by his 14 yearold sister or his barely older than him stepmom
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myshipsareendgame · 5 years ago
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Stormlight Archive headcanons going into book 4
So as we know book 4 will be set one year after Oathbringer. That means that we can make our own headcanons about what happened! Please hmu in the replies because I really want to know what are some of yours but here are some of mine:
• Dalinar learned how to write/read completely and his sons were super supportive (because we love the Kholin family)
• Vikim and Renarin became math bros
• Nan Balat and his wife Eylita (?) had a baby, so now Shallan and Adolin are aunt and uncle of two kids already
• Gavinor gets taken care of by the entire family- Navani takes care of him the most, Adolin brings him to his trainings and he likes when Shallan draws portraits of him
• Bridge Four also spent some time with Gavinor, especially because of Skar and Drehy, because he spent months with them
• Adolin is the big spoon, Shallan is the little spoon
• Shallan is still Jasnah’s ward and she’s getting better at being a good one
• Kaladin gets more good days (because of his parents and brother, but still has depression episodes but since he and Shallan are now definitely just friends they spend more time together so she kinda helps him with it since being around her makes him happier)
• Kaladin gets around a bit more, he goes out with his fellow bridgemen a bit more (which we all agree is what he deserves)
• When Adolin got to meet Gavinor again it was: “Hi, I’m your uncle Adolin. I’m gonna teach you how to introduce yourself to girls. Or boys! Whichever one you like!” Highkey Gavinor didn’t understand, but hey it’s Adolin being a supportive uncle
• Dalinar is also a bit more relaxed now after they have had a year to get used to everything
• The entire Vorin population is disgusted by Shallan and Adolin always holding hands in public, but honestly half the time they do it just to piss everyone off
• Navani is definitely the only one that knows that being queen is actually hard for Jasnah, but she would never admit it out loud
• And we still have allowed/ not allowed mating references from Pattern and he explains what he sees in the bedroom with Adolin and Shallan to Syl, so she pushes Kaladin to do the same and so now Kaladin knows some weird shit and he used it as bribe once
That’s all for know hmu with some other ones
-xo,myships
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