#my rant is long but its the last one

[snikt111]

hi hi hi hi I found out about Hal Jordan TODAY and am going so autistic over him it’s insane can you please give me a rundown on what his deal is I think you’re the Tumblr Green Lantern guy

omg hi, insane compliment btw, tysm! i'm glad to give you a rundown!! also definitely check out @katmaatui for more hal info, red is SUPER knowledgable abt him. @rillette, @catboyollie, @halcarols, @starsapphire and @yellowcorps (along with so many others that i cant think to tag off the top of my head) have some great hal takes too! (edited the post just to tag more ppl)

apologies if this is a bit rushed/messy, i'm doing this while i smelt stone in minecraft LMAO

that being said... i think this will be a long one, so more below the cut :3

(cw for light mentions of pedophilia, abuse, canon typical violence)

okay, so hal jordan is the first human green lantern of the GREEN LANTERN CORPS. it's important to note that there was technically a human green lantern before him (alan scott, originally from earth two/the justice society, but integrated into main DC canon after crisis), but his power comes from a different source- which is a whole different ballpark that would take ages to explain, lol, so i'll move on from that.

hal was originally introduced in a showcase issue in 1959, but ended up getting a solo run in the mid 60s because of his showcase issues doing well. he's been a test pilot, middle brother, compassionate, rule follower (although being surprisingly liberal for the time) with an interesting relationship with star sapphire carol ferris since those first appearances. for the first 20 odd years of his appearances we had no information on his parents, but we got a lot from other family members, such as uncle titus, cousin hal jr (aka airwave), younger brother jim jordan and older brother jack jordan. through the 60s and 70s those members of his family were developed along with him; with the audience learning that jim's wife sue thought jim was green lantern, rather than hal, and hal himself training his cousin, hal jr.

the most known version of how hal got the ring in the first place is probably based off of geoff john's rewrite in the mid 00s, reiterating the original story of abin sur crashing onto earth and dying, leaving hal with his ring to be trained by sinestro and the rest of the glc, while also changing miniscule details that had been developed in emerald dawn 1 & 2 (which was released in the 90s, more on that later). the main premise of abin sur's crash has stayed the same, but the story around hal's current life, job, family and stability keep changing. for instance, the original comic with abin sur in showcase only showed hal getting the ring, the guardians choosing him. the first rewrite i can think of was emerald dawn volume 1, published in 1989 and continued in emerald dawn v2 (1991). here we get the classic hal watches his father die in a plane crash with carol ferris beside him as a pre adolescent, and some of the biggest implications of the mistreatment from his father. we also get introduced to hal, despite his stick to the rules, straight edge attitude, making some serious mistakes and putting people in danger and even death- with the implication of alcohol abuse. the audience HAS known hal used to be in the air force since sometime in the late 60s or early 70s (sorry, i don't remember the exact issue!), but emerald dawn shows us that hal's moved on from the air force and into test piloting, and that his mother keeps having to bail him out for making mistakes. emerald dawn vol 1 shows the abin sur moment, followed by fights that cost hal's friends life, and is followed up by sinestro training hal in emerald dawn vol 2, where we get to see the iconic scenes of hal finding out about sinestro and his... dictatorship.

along with that; how the guardians and rings are treated and hal and the glc's perception of them is vastly changed over time. in the early days of gl in the 60s, the guardians were really never to be seen. hal was repeatedly summoned to them and then had his memory almost fully wiped- only leaving a vague notion of his orders. the guardian's called hal to them at seemingly the worst times, ending up with him almost getting injured, getting in trouble at work, and even ending up jobless and homeless. the chaos of being a green lantern has been around the WHOLE time, but originally, the green lanterns didnt really... fight it. the guardian's were their masters (and even father figures, to hal) and not to be questioned. the rings in the 60s were also much more powerful, despite the yellow weakness (the yellow weakness is the notion that from about the 60s to the mid 90s the green lantern rings were completely unable to be used against anything yellow). time travel, phasing, teleporting, etc were all very viable and common things- as well as forceful shapeshifting, invisibility, mind control, mind reading, etc etc. these days, writers have dampened these powers down to mostly shooting light and constructs.

okay, it's parallax time. the emerald twilight arc from the mid 90s wasn't an arc that was as thoroughly planned out over a long period of time as it probably should have been. a lot of fans at the time (and even now) hated what happened there, and claimed it ruined hal's character entirely. i can understand why! but, at it's core, the parallax arc is a story about a broken man pushed to the limit, fully grieving his home and family (originally, he lost his brother jim in the destruction of coast city, along with a lot of other family members) and being goddamn fed up with how his "masters" treated him and the rest of the corps. the so called "perfect lantern" (no, he wasn't that much of a rebel, despite what johns wants you to think) snapped and essentially tried to gain as much power as he could to bring back coast city. when the guardians stripped him of his powers so he couldn't, hal became enraged and took down every lantern in his path, just to get to the guardians and that power. long story short, he kills the guardians and absorbs all the energy from the central power battery on oa, becoming parallax- essentially a god. this marks the start of zero hour, an event made by dc to restructure and reset; giving the comics a new generation of heroes. hal destroys the world and remakes it, but is ultimately taken down by kyle rayner, the new green lantern, with the help of the jla, jsa and associates. there are a few more run ins with parallax after this, before kyle convinces parallax/hal that he can make up for all of this by reigniting the sun after it went out- aka killing himself. hal does it, is stuck in limbo for awhile and then becomes the spectre to continue to make up for the horrible things he did as parallax. the spectre is the spirit of god's wrath and vengeance, a weapon used to drag sinners to their very own, self made hells, and scare the shit out of people. the spectre, from it's very first appearance, is a ghost like spirit that takes on a host, and is primarily described using christian terms and is used in a very... christian ideology. HOWEVER, the spectre 2001 confirms that hal is jewish (jewish mom, catholic dad) and that belief system, plus his personality as a whole, literally makes him change the spirit of vengeance into the spirit of redemption, for at least as long as they are bonded. the whole parallax to spectre arc is about grief, pain, cycles of abuse and terror, redemption and guilt. it is NOT about a fear bug that possess hal. (im so serious though, the spectre 2001 is one of the best comics ive ever read. amazing. changed my world view) but... geoff johns changed all of it, decanonized the spectre, and ruined the legacy of parallax and hal's growth as a person by releasing green lantern: rebirth in 2004/2005. this retcons hal's breakdown and journey through grief into him BEING POSSESSED BY AN ENTITY CONTROLLED BY SINESTRO THAT FULLY CHANGES PREVIOUS GREEN LANTERN CANON AND IMPLICATIONS. also, fucks up the importance of kyle becoming ion, but whatever. geoff johns writes hal (and even more so, carol) so very wrong, and change their stories so vastly in ways that go against the stories very meanings.

SIGH.

now... time to get started on some rougher stuff. hal jordan misconceptions. i'm saving that arc for last.

- hal jordan wasn't much of a rule breaker or rebel until the 70s/80s, where he BEGAN (very slowly, mind you) to be radicalized by oliver queen during denny o'neil's green lantern/green arrow. hal was painted as more of a conservative during this period (which, admittedly, kind of goes against previous canon... he's always been relatively central to liberal, not to any extremes like ollie though, lol) but gets more and more understanding of how power structures work and how lower classes are mistreated during this time- which ends up opening his eyes a bit to how shitty the guardians are. (this is helped by the guardians literally just. leaving. the green lanterns and kind of disbanding them so they can go fuck the zamarons, lmao). geoff johns tried to change this narrative into making hal a very... maverick-from-top-gun type of character, who punched his way out of the military (when, in reality, the original story during emerald knights in the late 90s was that hal had been framed for stealing a jet and was dishonorably discharged, which he took the punishment for because he knew someone had to) and hits on women constantly and gets ladies and allat (which, funnily enough hal was awful at getting carol to like him for a long time, since carol fell for green lantern rather than hal. not to mention the awkwardness of carol's proposals or hal's many, many failed relationships). hal has always been insecure and lowkey boyfailure, he is NOT a top gun maverick tom cruise sorta guy! fuck you jeremy adams!

- hes not that much of an idiot asshole. hal can be a real dick, he's had that going for him since the beginning, but he isn't what you read in batfam fics. he's not stupid and shouldn't be the laughingstock of the justice league. i assume this idea started from the obsession with batfam and the fact that the jla has quite the history of ignoring hal and his issues (as well as. all of their issues. theyre not so great at work life balance), but it's gone too far. hal isn't making fun of the robins and pissing bruce off bc of that. hal isnt fooling around on the job 24/7 (he takes being a gl and pilot VERY seriously, although he does enjoy some danger and high stakes) or slacking off to get girls. again. not top gun maverick.

- hal has not been a creep since the beginnings. hal was not weird with carol in the 60s. things were weird between them, yeah, but that's based off circumstance and the craziness of star sapphire and green lantern. he was NOT being horribly sleazy! i hate that i even need to say this, but i see this take too much not to

- going off of what was said above, lets discuss the arisia arc. if you want to be a real hal fan, this is unfortunately something you need to know about. in action comics, after crisis and the guardians left to go fuck the zamarons, most of the green lanterns fell apart and seperated. a small group went to earth- led by hal and consisting of hal, john stewart, katma tui, kilowog, salaakk, ch'p and arisia rrab. (also sometimes guy gardner, but that's complicated) previously to this arc, hal treated 14 year old arisia like a beloved little sister, welcoming her and leading her into the corps just like everyone else. things started to change once the timeline gets closer and closer to crisis, where arisia starts showing that she has a crush on hal (who is roughly 30s at this point). any advances made by arisia are shut down by hal at the beginning, because she's a child. now, it's unfortunately a common thing to just call hal a "pedophile" because of what happens in this arc- but it really isn't that simple. still weird and icky, but definitely not to the degree of which some fans like to act like it is- esp to attack hal fans for, which is... an odd choice regarding how many fucked up things every character (esp male characters) did back in the day. arisia ends up using her power ring to artifically age herself up, making her body AND MIND into that of a young adult (the comic makes this very clear). once this happens... hal stops rejecting her. they get together, they kiss. the only person in the group of green latnerns who actually has an issue with it is john (salaakk is meh about it, but he just doesn't like human-esque romance no matter what), and katma even directly encourages their relationship. kilowog ends up crushing on arisia as well, and guy gardner hits on her repeatedly throughout the whole period. eventually, hal and arisia break up, but this legacy (thank so much englehart, for wrtiting this. /sarc) is a big controversy among the comics crowd. "is hal jordan a predator?" personally, and i know a lot of friends/mutuals/other gl fans choose to erase the arisia arc entirely (versus how canon ended up retconning it to be 14 earth years is equal to that of an adult and she didn't really get super ages up, or whatever) and go with the familial relationship between hal and her. that's my preferred version! i know red (@katmaatui) has explored that version as well as an alternate version where the arisia arc did happen, and how it affects arisia in particular, which is really depressing but super interesting. anyway, it's complicated and weird and nuanced, but that whole occurence doesn't mean hal's a bad character or person (cause yk. retcons) and it's certainly not bad to like his character. (definitely ignore any guy gardner fans who try to bitch about this arc. cough cough. guy was ALSO into her and hit on her repeatedly. smfh) most people who bring this up to demonize fans didn't even read the arc, and don't know the nuance or the other weird shit that happens in it. (hal is not a horse, sigh)

OVERALL NOTES!

hal jordan is a super complicated character with an extensive history spanning from the 60s to his worse written appearances in modern age. it's okay to like any version of the character, but it is important to note the changes that have been made, the storylines butchered and lost, and more. he has quite the legacy, and he's particularly interesting as from a moral standpoint. hal's a real sweetie though, when it gets down to it! he's neurodivergent coded (imo at least.. his dad very much gets onto him for being disrtracted, hes kinda shit at social interaction (and then amazing at it the other half of the time) etc etc. "spacecase") and his dad is an abusive asshole, who he desperately doesnt want to be like but thinks he NEEDS to be like!

[druidonity2]

King

[slothspamsstuff]

Sigh, no shit, they really be calling me disgusting for seeing no problem with shipping people in a found family, who are not even related by blood lol. I'll check myself when the writers make them siblings from the same biological parents or biological parent (half-siblings), which simply means if only they're strictly related at birth. If not, it's not incest, from a logical perspective.

They have barely met or lived together from youth, they literally meet a few years later after meeting Bruce/Batman as teens/young adults so it just doesn't make sense to me if that's how a family dynamic works, it’s weird because humans are creatures of belonging, they need to feel a sense of communication and interaction in long term to actually form a familial bond, and in this case, the batfolks don’t have that kind of interactions. Imagine you're 18 something, then on one beautiful day, some 22 year-old came into your house declaring that now you two will be siblings, you don't know him, he doesn't know you either, are you supposed to act like you've been with him your entire life just because you're now siblings and not some older guy who just came into your life 20 minutes ago, whom you have no idea existed until you see him? To gain a familial bond, it really doesn't work like that, you’re in with people you don’t know until your late teens and suddenly you have to treat them like you’ve been together with them your whole life just because someone decided to adopt you out of thin air? Where is the work? Where is the built up familial bonds? I see none because! They just don’t interact with each other that much in the comics, and I started going into the fandom from the comic books, not from ao3, wfa (i don’t hate the webtoon but it should not be used as the core reference for how the batfam really act towards each other, it’s too disneyfy and idealistic, which might have or not have happened in the actual long lines of the official comics) or other fanon stuff so before I get to see them interacting like a functional family in the fandom, I’ve seen them bashing each other in the head and laughing about Bludhaven being blown up with Dick potentially being a collateral victim, that’s not how you’d react to your brother or any other family member getting caught up in an accident. And just so you know, I'm also not invalidating step-siblings who see each other as families, like-wise to adopted siblings that see their adopted siblings as a real family, or childhood friends who see their friend's family as a family, good for you guys, actually. I'm only speaking strictly in the case of the bat family so it won't bring up any other newly formed issues that I'm a family hater/pro incest advocater because I'm not. For now, check the comics from the start to the latest, so what if they're legally adopted, it's been removed then retconned to that then removed then retconned over and over again in the dc comic verse? Many writers still write them with romantic chemistries and that shouldn't be something to hate on about, people can have their own takes on fictional things. Shocking!? I know. I personally have stated above and before this over and over again that I like their dynamics to be similar to Brothers in Blood in Nightwings #2021 annual (which btw is similar to this phrase "Huynh đệ kết nghĩa" in Vietnamese, which literally means sworn brothers, which again refers to two men who are not related by blood but finding kinship in each other's company that they decide to become oath brothers - and strictly not in an incestous way but in a literal 'damn now you're my brother in arms' kind of way). Back to the main topic, many DC writers have written them together, many fandom writers have, many artists have drawn them together in a shippy kind of way, it's not a sin so it should not be associated with the violence threats that I have seen some of you so proudly posted on your wall. Like really? Proud of wanting to inflict violence on someone who doesn't share the same ideals as you? Dictatorship, I'd say.

Now, hypotheoretically speaking, do you associate yourself with a serial killer just because you watch true crimes? Do you associate yourself with a crime lord for reading under the red hood? If none of that is true to you then the same logic is applied to people who enjoy things that you don't like. They don't associate themselves as humans with the things they enjoy (if it's really incest, which the batfam is literally 90% NOT), such as the case of Cersei and Jaime Lannister in GoT, though it got better later on in the show, we also don't talk about season 8 (not the romantic, incestous part, but you get what I'm trying to say here). Grow up and think about it. But honestly, I'm just writing this so others who might come across can read and be kind to each other, I doubt you'd even read half of this lmao, you can't even read my previous post properly without accussing me of being a pedo, so I don't expect much from your reading comprehension. But you do you.

Personally, for me, I like things that are not romantically involved within the batfamily but do I be a little bitch about it and shit on anyone who has different ideas and shippings from me? No. BUT again, this is not about me, this is about being respectful to other shippings (ship and let ship) and not give a fuck or dictate what others like just to cater to your own self-rightousness. If you hate something so much but you don't own the mentality of not giving a damn and have to rage like a siren with anger issues (I'm speaking as someone with anger issues myself) at strangers on the internet, I suggest you stay off the net and get yourself checked in for therapy really, because all of this raging is screaming mental illness (and I don't mean it in a demeaning way, I mean it in an unchecked diagnosis that one needs working on kind of way aka a concerning way) to me.

Ok, here's another piece of advice before you flip your head from understanding that Tim and Cass are NOT blood siblings and therefore not logically incestous. There's a function called "block", so you could save some time instead of ranting to someone who doesn't agree with you, you could use all that time purging all the so called 'batcest' stuff from your feed lol. Maybe you will understand that we simply dont share the same mindsets or understanding of the dynamics or cultural backgrounds (and my culture gives the hard F to incest, but it's ok as long as you are not related by blood because the core values of families are so important in our culture, we don't go around calling or claiming anything we see on the internet as a real blood bonding family. Sure a family might be used here and there for one big/small close knitted community but it doesn't share the same weight of importance as a real family that includes the work and the familial bondings that everyone in said community has to claim) 🥳 try to shit on my culture without sounding like a xenophobe, I dare you. The best counterpoint you will hypotheoretically make is calling us a bunch of close minded, regressive assholes/monkeys like many have done before and it's a fact I know I'm not wrong because you won't even bother to spend 10 minutes researching on our culture the same way you don't bother researching the interactions from the source materials that are made in the west, where I think you might be from.

I would have agreed with you if you brought up Damian but I guess nah lol, also anon ask harassment is just people who find joy in annoying others cuz if I knew who you are, I’d give you snarkier comments than I do now so you’d drop that habit of yours of picking fights no one literally cares about.

So then your okay with shipping : tim and dick or bruce and jason because theyre not related by blood? Or dick and jason or bruce or jason and bruce? Like wtf man check yourself

Wow dude, you're better than this, why do you have to try to prove your point so badly by accussing me of supporting pedophilia when I have explitcitly stated on my pinned post that the one thing I hate the most is pedophilia? Did you not read my post carefully? I said Tim and Cass were close in age, and the fact that they met when they're teenagers, and even if Bruce had legally adopted Cass (Tim has his own family whatchu on about) doesn't make them blood siblings. And the comics themselves show that, I elaborated on everything you needed to know and after everything, you just need a reason to hate on someone you virtually don't know and to be honest, to accuse someone of being pro-pedo when the one thing they despise the most is pedophilia just to prove a point is kind of low. I stated what needed to be said and will not be replying to further anonymous asks you're giving me, it feels like a waste of time when you still don't understand what I want to say after that wall of text and still try to police what I don't agree with you into something as sick as pedophilia.

[synqiri]

guess who's gna hv to go to the hospital tmr and probably hv the infected wound surgically removed

[desi-yearning]

My friend is leaving for a different state and I don't know what to feel

[prettycottagequeer]

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[caloboletus-rubripes]

hey how do you forgive yourself for doing something something you feel is irrevocably embarrassing even though you know you can do anything you want forever

like how do you unlearn that shame

[exoscreamsoda]

im finally not jobless

it took me 200+ applications (not on indeed but directly on compan websites) and almost 2 years since graduating college (WHERE I EARNED A BACHELORS WITH CUM LAUDE HONORS). im 24 years old and i was just now able to secure a job that wasn't given to me out of pity. it should NOT have taken me 6 years of adulthood to get even a chance at having a normal life, out of those 200 applications i only had 3 interviews, all online except for this final one. it should NOT be this hard to get a job in a country with help wanted signs everywhere. i wish every single ceo/boss/boomer in this country had to go through the pain and suffering of job hunting when you have no nepotism to help you.

[ruinxl0ve]

Wish the fact that weirdos wouldn't come at my LMK Nezha art and spit weird shits like "isnt bro 12 or bla bla--" ⁉️ HAVE YOU READ THE DAMN LORE???

[indiegame]

"sorry i know it sounds like 2 crickets are having sex but its not" my housemates were pumping air into a massive pillow

[nyupuun]

Won Top 4 at locals for the Age of Overlord Sneak Peek (this made me so happy I have to share it everywhere.)

Also, another person really liked the anime (specifically 5Ds) so now we're writing with one another and I don't think I've done anything harder than trying to act normal and allistic about Yugioh. Someone at Locals also said they liked how 'excited' I was about it, and I know it probably wasn't even meant in a mean way but I still felt a bit bad cause I don't even know how to be normal!!!!!

[starzwithapen]

what r solar's thoughts on brozone... the brozone brothers.... them.... 😈.

WAANXN TY FOR ASKING ABOUT SOLAR IM SO NORMAL ABOUT MY OCS . twirls my hair . I WROTE SO MUCH IM SO SORRY

Solar does not like them upon first meeting purely on the basis that there must've been a reason Clay got upset if he thought about them too long right? And she thinks Viva REALLY needs to do background checks before just letting anyone in- but he warms up to them ^w^

I think she'd get along most with Branch surprisingly- I'd assume they'd spend more time together when Viva and Poppy hang out, and he's familiar enough that it doesn't have Solar on edge, and she actually really admires him [don't tell anyone but Branch reminds Solar of his sister sometimes, and he finds that a little comforting]

Solar likes Bruce but is lowkey intimidated by him LMAO mostly because he was closest to Clay and the one Clay spoke of the most so Solar's like "oh my god this is the equivalent of meeting their parents since they dont have parents . I have to Impress Bruce constantly . Does Bruce think Im weird . If Bruce thinks I'm weird ill throw myself off a cliff . "

I dont think Solar spends much time with Floyd- Floyd doesn't initiate in fear of making her uncomfortable, and Solar would rather eat a car battery than initiate any interaction. Floyd's pretty okay in her book, and everyone's reaction to Floyd's hair being positive makes him feel better about his own hair

SOLAR DOES NOT LIKE JOHN DORY . number 1 reason Clay did not speak of him fondly so he's been on Solar's hitlist since before he even met him . Number 2 reason he also reminds her of her sister but in a Bad way and Solar doesnt wanna think too hard about that. I think they'd have a bit of a heart warming moment when Solar first reunites with his sister and their relationship kinda improves from there

[mejomonster]

Usually i dont have long hair so i guess its just hitting like a truck lately how femininely long hair is viewed, how much its used to identify women, how shallowly many people expect women To have long hair

And wowza does it make me realize 1 why my mom must've internally felt such a great need to make me grow my hair 2 makes me immediately wanna chop it the fuck off, because the people most pleased with long hair are the people id like to stay away from me 3 kind of irksome cause im growing my hair out, for the first time by choice in like 2 fucking decades, because i wanted cool long hair like guys in shows i admire

[aria0fgold]

STARDEW VALLEY UPDATE!!! YIPPEE!!!

[flamboyant-king]

We saw the beginning, now I be thinking about all the possible...uhh the word is like aftermath...epilogues? Seeing as the narrative will be left open ended, we can hypothesize and fantasize just about anything!

This one is Harvey carrying on with what he idealized as a normal life, getting married, having kids, going out with the boys, stuff you see on TV. But Cammy is still there, still a part of his life. And that's pretty neat. And also I cry.

[miniyrds]

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