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us arospecs really do just get on Tumblr dot com and choose violence huh.
anyways be aro bash bigot with a crowbar <3
#like the amount of violent aro posts is crazy#I mean don't get me wrong it's fucking hilarious#my most popular post is a violent aro post#but holy fucking I didn't realize this was part of the general a to hive mind till I got more active here on Tumblr#look you don't get to judge me for being violent and angry and shit on here#I post abt what i cant/don't do irl#I'm a shitty person here so I can be employee of the month at work ya feel me?#Anyways#arospec#queer#aromanticism#aroace#aromantic#aro#demiromantic#greyromantic#grayromantic#aroflux#cupioromantic#fuck aphobes
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my ENTIRE Happy Mask Salesman lore in one post [none of this is canon btw I just made this up for fun]
Ok so basically
Keilroi Miyatake (my official name of HMS) was born in the Gerudo desert, his mom is Gerudo and his dad is Hylian. His mom was a Gerudo warrior before she got kicked out because at the time being with a Hylian was frowned upon. So they hid in the desert for a bit until the Gerudos found them and told them to leave the desert. At this point his parents and him are wanderers. About 5-6 years later Keilroi now has a little sister named Marion.
Fast forward about 6 or so years, Keilroi would be 12 or so, Navuri (Keilroi's mom) gets very ill and passes away, his dad was a d*uchebag so he basically left Keilroi and Marion on their own. Keilroi basically had to learn how to fend for himself and take care of his sister. Eventually Keilroi and Marion were taken in by a tribe and they were there for probably about 10 or so years. Keilroi learned how to fight and defend himself in the tribe, and actually learned pyrokenesis. Eventually, Keilroi learned about some not so very good intentions the tribe had so the tribe started turning on him and his sister, so they left.
Keilroi's probably about 20 or so at this point, so Keilroi and his sister wander around for about 5 more years until the Hyrulean Civil War happens and Keilroi's basically forced to fight in the war on the Hylian Kingdom's side. Keilroi was basically terrified at this point and didn't know what he was even fighting for, so he just killed enemies without any afterthought. Eventually after the war, the King of Hyrule wanted him to help train guards and knights, and Keilroi was honestly scared to refuse because he thought something bad would happen. (At this point Keilroi would be around 30 or so)
After about 4 years or so, Keilroi basically connected the dots in his brain and figured out that the king is just using him for violent purposes, which he doesn't want to contribute to anymore. Keilroi knows he can't just quit because the king will probably be pissed and execute him, so Keilroi goes into hiding and fakes his death.
About 3 years after being in hiding, Keilroi assumes a new identity as the Happy Mask Salesman. The gold pieces he wears were actually an award from the royal family. He doesn't know what else to do with it, so he wears it. Most people have probably already forgotten about "Keilroi" anyway, and plus he hardly ever leaves his shop because he's probably afraid someone will notice him.
When Ganon started to rule over, he just dipped and went under the radar for a very long time. After that, he went to Termina to find the mask, shenanigans happen, we all know what happens in Majora's Mask.
Now HMS just wanders around selling masks for a living, he's pretty content with his life, so I guess that's neat.
ALSO: Due to him being in the Clock Tower in Majora's Mask for so long, that's why he doesn't age!! Because in Majora's Mask, the clock at the bottom of the screen actually goes away!!!
COOL FACTS!!!!!!!!!!
He doesn't like sharing his real name with people, so he prefers people call him Mask.
Keilroi Miyatake's name is a reference to "Kilroy", the character popularized by "Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto" by Styx. "Miya" is taken from "Miyamoto", the creator of the Zelda series," and "take" is just taken from a mushroom.
He is VERY tall. He is about 7'0.
He's also HELLA strong. Built like a Jojo character under that purple clothes. Talk about a sleeper build.
His eyes are green!!
HMS is very knowledgeable on foraging for food. It is his favorite activity.
His weapon of choice is a 9-ringed broadsword, along with a Hylian shield.
👏ARO/ACE👏
Gets along pretty well with kids.
Doesn't like the rain. It reminds him of his time in Termina, which was pretty stressful for him.
Keilroi is a recluse. He lives in the middle of rural Hyrule by himself.
He has an orange cat named Gakkington, or Gakster for short, or Gakkie for shorter!!!
He enjoys learning about ancient history.
He's more tolerant to hot areas such as deserts.
He can speak Gerudo!!
He has ties with the Gerudo, but doesn't get much of a chance to interact with them because of the whole being a man thing. So usually he'll just get his sister to do it LOL
TLDR: HMS's real name is Keilroi Miyatake, had a very shitty childhood, joined a tribe in his teens, was kicked out of the tribe in his 20s, was forced to fight in the Hyrulean Civil War, then forced to contribute to more violence, got tired of it, faked his death, is now the Happy Mask Salesman.
#majoras mask#zelda#ocarina of time#happy mask salesman#im hyperfixating again#sorry im hyperfixating
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as an ex truscum how did you come to terms with the harm youve caused others and make up for it? do you still struggle with unlearning truscum standards?
i think it’s important i don’t hide or censor my past, no matter how embarrassed or regretful i might be from it. people have the right to know about someone’s past bigotry and to decide their boundaries with that person from that point on. i think it’s an important part of my past for people to know of when the topic comes up.
i stopped being truscum almost 5 years ago; and yes—i still struggle with unlearning truscum standards, because i learned them during my formative years of development. because of that, i really vibe with the saying "The first thought that goes through your mind is what you have been conditioned to think; what you think next defines who you are." —because i’ll still catch myself thinking very... exclusionary things and have to stop and reflect why i’m thinking that, and then correct my thoughts accordingly. it’s forever a process of self-reflection and checking.
(read-more’d for length) tl;dr—i realized being truscum was bad and then i became a die-hard inclusionist, and even began identifying with labels that 2012 me would hate.
i only really came to terms with the fact i was causing harm in say, late 2016 or *very* early 2017 when one of my most treasured friends admitted to me that xe was afraid to tell me xe was nonbinary, because we both had identified as truscum and xe was in the process of dropping those beliefs, whereas i hadn’t gotten to that point myself until xe told me about hir identity and reason for being afraid of telling me. and if one of my best friends felt terrified of telling me their identity, or literally anything about themselves; then obviously i was fucking up big time and doing something incredibly wrong.
so that was like, my first step in dropping those beliefs. and making up for it has been an incredibly long road. dropping all forms of gate-keeping, queer-separatism, and otherwise exclusionary beliefs in favor of becoming a radically inclusive person of any good-faith identity, to the point of even adopting some “discoursed” labels myself (ie: straight-lesbian trans man) has been a 5 year long journey.
i started identifying as truscum when i was 13 or 14, back in 2011 or 2012 when the word was first coined. there was a tumblr post, calling those who were binary trans people and (forgive me my memory is fuzzy) didn’t hate cis people as “true transexual scum. truescum.” and the term truscum stuck from that. and back then the community was really small. there was just a handful of us in the FTM tag telling other trans guys that they can’t identify as lesbians and that they should stop tagging their selfies as both “FTM” and “lesbian”. (which is funny to me now because... i literally identify as an ftm lesbian now lmaaooo. i became the very thing i set out to destroy /lh).
and being truscum was kind of a catalyst for so many of the early exclusionary queer-separatism and incorporating radfem beliefs into early lgbt+ tumblr that i never really noticed until ace discourse got notoriously bad in 2016. 1. nonbinary-exclusion. back in 2012/2013 ‘trans’ used to be written as ‘trans*’, with the asterisk, for the inclusion of nonbinary identities. and at the time, truscum were notoriously against it because at the time, truscum believed that nonbinary identities weren’t real, so the asterisk was unnecessary and useless. and then an article came along that went into detail about how the asterisk was useless BECAUSE nonbinary people were inherently trans without any caveats, and ‘trans’ (without the asterisk) was already inclusive on nonbinary folk, not just binary trans men and women. so that kinda trickled down and eventually became the end of trans* asterisk, and after that an influx of nonbinary folks started to identify as truscum—however a lot of people who identified as truscum prior to this still held heavily anti-nonbinary beliefs. (and then truscum got kinda blamed for adding the asterisk in the first place so that kinda became an in-joke for a year or so. like, things truscum invented: the asterisk after trans asterisk, the word truscum, whales. etc) 2. transmisogyny, and adopting radfem talking points. i know in the early days (and probably still now, but i don’t know the demographics as i never kept up with them), the majority of truscum before 2014 were white, and binary trans men. (emphasis on the white trans men part.) Because of this, whenever there was a collective schism with a notable trans woman for whatever reason (adele idislikecispeople, genderpunkrock, kat blaque, etc. were all big ones during 2014), transmisogyny would be rampant. there were groups dedicated to somehow proving idislikecispeople was pretending to be a trans woman that were really invasive of her privacy (years before kiwifarms even touched the subject), and despite claiming to be a vehemently anti-radical feminist group—willingly accepted radfem talking points and even radfems who self-identified as truscum. and cisgendered self-identified truscum, especially adult cis MEN (usually gay, and were fairly aggressive to us teens??), were accepted with open arms and were looked up to for some fucking reason. y’know, bootlicking. around 2014 was when the term “transmedicalist/transmedicalism” was coined by john snarkytransman, and was popularized by users who followed suit. it came about around 2013/2014. since then, the term has been synonymous with truscum- but in may 29, 2015, users who wanted to detach themselves from the label of truscum due to drama wish to mark a distinction between the two labels, which was largely popularized by john myragewillendworlds. because truscum was never supposed to be a community initially, it was supposed to be an ideology “like atheism”. and a lot of the drama around the time when transmedicalist was coined was due to three distinct groups forming: the old truscum (those who had been around since near the beginning, like i was. usually adult binary trans men over 18 and in their early-to-mid 20s.), neo-truscum (mostly made up of teens around my age who were newly out and majorly identified as nonbinary, and latched onto the first group they came across, like i had years prior), and the FUCKING MARIGANG (a notorious group of radfem truscum who only believed in 2 distinct nonbinary identities, agender and bigender, and were... extremely volatile.) i was somehow in all 3 of these groups because of 1. the fact i had been truscum since the near conception of the term so i was oldscum, 2. i was within the age range of most of the neo-truscum so a lot of them were my friends, and 3. mari from the marigang was the first ever other non-SAM asexual (and adult!) i had ever met (aside from my then-gf, Gabe. whomst i still talk to and luv with all my heart <33) and i clung onto her despite how.... fucking wild she was. and her boyfriend eliot was the first ever intersex person i had come across after learning about my own intersex variation, and i was so desperate for validation from these two adults who both held two identities integral to myself that i had never met any else sharing before, so i ignored so many of the red flags they had. (and they had... so many.) which brings me to my next point!!!!! 3. queer-phobia and the beginning of ace discourse. (NOTE: i didn’t realize all of these groups were radfem until years later, and i didn’t know what “TWERF” meant at the time. i barely knew was a radfem was.) so the marigang (2013/2014 i think?) was known for being notoriously volatile and violent at the drop of a hat to anyone who they didn’t like and labeling them as “fauxscum”. even to their own members in the skype group. it was largely made up of radfems and even eliot was a self-described TWERF (despite... at the time identifying as a intersex cis man????). the marigang believed in two nonbinary identities only: bigender and agender. mari herself was agender, asexual, and aromantic, and would brag about abusing eliot because of how much she despised men. she was incredibly anti-AVEN and refused to be called ace, aro, or aroace, and would only go by non-AVEN terms like “asexual” and thought the split-attraction-model was bullshit. (which is why i also refused to go by the terms ace/aro/aroace and would only go by “asexual” up until late 2016/early 2017.) mari was also incredibly hypocritical, criticizing me for having a girlfriend despite IDing as asexual & aromantic, even though she also had a boyfriend with the same sorta partnership (except Gabe and i weren’t abusive, just a bit too young.) despite that, i latched onto mari as an idolized adult figure. branching off from the marigang was a group of asexual & aromantic, usually nonbinary, radfem truscum who called themselves asexual elitists. and i ended up joining that group through mari. this group in either late 2013 to mid 2014 became the basis of what ace discourse would become a year later. some of our key beliefs that would later generally be accepted by truscum (a lot of them even sharing some of these beliefs despite hating the marigang and such) and then later spread throughout tumblr were: 1. there is no asexual spectrum. you’re either asexual or you aren’t. micro-identities like demisexuality and grayasexuality are unnecessary because that’s 90% of the population. (the part about demigray-sexuality was already popular amongst truscum at this time.) 2. people aren’t oppressed for being asexual. it’s either misogyny or misdirected homophobia. (i don’t think the term aphobia/acephobia was coined yet, or was popularized at this time.) 3. queer is a violent slur and should not be used as a personal identity or for the community. (already a common opinion amongst truscum.) 4. the split-attraction-model is unnecessary, redundant, harmful, and destructive. that if your sexual and romantic orientations “conflict” (ie: biromantic heterosexual, homoromantic pansexual, etc.), then you’re either one or the other and just confused. that it’s homophobic/biphobic/lesbiphobic because it reduces people to sex. (was already 50/50 with truscum.) 5. the term “allosexual” is very AVEN-y (therefore bad) and, again, reduces people to sex. because us asexuals were the “abnormal” (an actual word used that i internalized) ones in society, we didn’t need a word to refer to non-asexuals, and just not-asexual worked for it. 6. pansexuality don’t real and it’s just bisexuality under a special label. (was already 50/50 with truscum.) 7. the only existing orientations are gay/lesbian, bi, and straight. asexuality is the LACK of a sexuality and therefore not an orientation. 8. AVEN sucks. fuck AVEN. fuck david jay. MOGAI sucks. intersex isn’t lgbt. (i was the only intersex person a part of the asexual elitists (sans eliot) so i was kinda expected to just... agree with it. so i did. i didn’t have any opinions of my own for it. and mari was adamant about it because she was outspoken about eliot’s intersexuality.) — i’m probably missing some but these were off the top of my head. do those sound familiar? these were the beliefs of both the marigang and the asexual elitists groups, that were probably taken from radfems and then spread to truscum and to the rest of tumblr—which then spread out further through the internet, since many users had deviantarts and twitters and would take discourse to other places. et cetera et cetera. i left the marigang in late 2014 i want to say? and returned to the general truscum community, and the marigang fell apart due to in-fighting. but the damage had already been done at that point, and those of us left were still spreading this rhetoric to others who then continued to spread it. ------ i think i started to become an inclusionist in late 2015 or early 2016 when ace discourse STARTED to take off outside of truscum circles. because whenever i talked about bigotry i happened to face due to be asexuality, i was met with “that didn’t happen” and people dismissing my experiences and telling me i had no place in the lgbt community (“i never thought the leopards would eat my face” -person who supported the ‘leopards eating faces’ party). i began to notice how kinda... fucked up these exclusionist beliefs were, now that i was on the receiving end of them? so i left the truscum community (despite still holding transmedicalist beliefs at this time) and i made an ace discourse blog called acehet (which at the time i made it, was called allosexuel. but before that i helped run a blog called allodiscourse which then got rebranded to something else after i left idk??) i still held onto some of these initial beliefs. that the split attraction model was silly, that asexuality wasn’t a spectrum, that AVEN was harmful, pansexuality is just special bisexuality, queer was a slur, etc etc. and i did my best to actively work towards unlearning a lot of these things and began to blog in support of them, even if my best friend at the time (the one who later came out to me as nonbinary and inspired me to drop transmedicalist beliefs entirely) still believed in all of these things and felt like i was beginning to believe in the wrong things. (i think because of that i sorta inspired hir to become an inclusionist too after hir past exclusionism too? ze's never said what sorta made hir change hir stance. idk!) and through that, i began to realize that the root of so many gatekeeping beliefs and arguments were founded through radical feminism, truscum/transmedicalists, and bigotry in general. that so many of these parroted arguments were rehashed versions of “trans women aren’t women” to “nondysphorics aren’t trans” to “bihets aren’t lgbt” to “asexuals(and aromantics) aren’t lgbt” to “intersex people aren’t lgbt” and so forth. invading communities, stealing resources, preying on young lesbians (making her reject womanhood and become nonbinary/trans, internalized lesbiphobia and IDing as ace or bi, somehow sexually abusing them, etc.) and so on. they’re all the same fucking arguments. from the same fucking sources. and i have been saying this for years since i realized it. there are maybe 1 or 2 beliefs i held onto since i started interacting with the truscum community back in 2011, before the term was coined. but i believe it only for myself, and do not apply it to anyone else. i, personally and for myself only, believe my own transexuality is a medical condition characterized by my dysphoria, and i’ve never really identified with the trans community. i don’t identify with the trans flag, so i don’t use it for myself. i avoid the term “trans” unless necessary. and in 2016-2018 i pretended to be a cis man online until it became too much and i hated lying. i don’t apply this to anyone else, only myself. because i only want to focus on the medical aspect of my transition. this is a major contrast with my intersex identity. where i don’t consider my intersex variation to be a condition, but rather a major identity of mine. whereas most people would see the inverse of this—that trans is an identity and intersex is a condition. for me, and me personally, it’s the opposite. my intersexuality is my identity and my transexuality is my condition. (i cannot stress enough that i only apply this belief to myself, nobody else.) i identify with the intersex community, i identify with the intersex flag, and being intersex is the most major part of my presentation and gender. there’s probably so many things i’ve missed since it’s been a decade since the conception of truscum as a group. before that i believe there were a similar group made up of trans women on some forums called HBSers (harry benjamin syndrome-ers). unlearning all of these beliefs i’ve internalized in my youth and trying to use my past as a way to dissuade people away from gate-keeping and exclusionism has been what i’ve been doing my best to do since around late 2015, even if i was still in the process of dropping my own harmful and exclusionary separatist beliefs after that time. there are still truscum-y thoughts that creep back into my mind every time i might come across something new or “cringy”, but after 2018/2019 when i finally came to the full realization that HRT would never work on me (my biggest nightmare since 2013 when i learned i was intersex)—i fully embraced my own cringy identity as a straight-lesbian ftm intersex man and embraced MOGAI as a term. all queer-separatism beliefs, exclusionism, gate-keeping, and other lgbtqia+ infighting all stems from bigotry and hate. it stems from radfems, from truscum/transmedicalists, from people “exclusionists” claim to hate yet have no problem parroting arguments from. it’s all rooted in hatred and elitism and separating the “pure” identities away from the “bad” ones. all forms of gate-keeping in queer communities like this is bigoted and harmful, because it’s a slippery slope into all the other forms of gate-keeping as well. anyway i hope this wasn’t hard to read? i’m pretty rambly and i have trouble keeping my thoughts in check. i’ve most likely missed a lot of things and forgotten many more, but this is more or less the timeline that led me to learn that being truscum was genuinely and incredibly fucking harmful and i am still trying to make up for it. my 2 biggest regrets in life are 1. being truscum and 2. inventing circumgender.
#tw suicide mention#tw truscum#asks#mail#tw terf/twerf mention#tw ace discourse#tw queerphobia#tw transmisogyny#tw radical feminism#god so many fgucking tws and i probably missed some too#tw discourse#FUCK!!!!!#Anonymous
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Penny Polendina: Robot Rep
Robots as representation has seen a lot of use throughout media, to varying degrees of success. Sometimes it is fairly explicit in the narrative, others it is more subtle. Often it is borderline impossible to determine whether intentional or not, such is the popularity of this trope.
RWBY has made attempts at representing marginalized groups over its run, similarly to varying degrees of success. One character, the focus of this post, is Penny Polendina, a robot girl who, while not explicitly confirmed by the writers of the show, is seen by some fandom members as a source of representation, most commonly as neurodivergent or transgender (usually nonbinary), but also as aro-spec or a-spec.
This post will be a collection of my thoughts, as a member of multiple of the above mentioned demographics, against Penny as a source of representation, as well as a few reasons behind these thoughts.
Contents
Who is Penny Polendina? (a summary of her story from Volumes 1-7)
Robots as Representation (in general)
Case-specific Additions (for Penny in particular)
Closing Thoughts
Who is Penny Polendina?
Penny is introduced fairly late in Volume 1 when Team RWBY quite literally runs into her. The group exchange greetings and names, though not before Yang asks her if she’s “sure she didn’t hit her head.” As they leave, Ruby offhandedly calls her “friend,” leading Penny to ask her curiously if she truly is a friend. Ruby agrees (to her teammates’ dismay) and Penny grows very excited at the confirmation.
Subsequent meetings with Penny, many of them by pure coincidence, reveal more about her character. She states that she doesn’t have a lot of friends, that she has never been to another kingdom before, and that her father, worried for her safety, did not want her to venture out too much during her time in Vale. Perhaps most notably, she tells Ruby in confidence that she is “not a real girl,” but rather a synthetic person built by her father (later revealed to be named Pietro Polendina). Ruby insists that she has both a heart and a soul, to which Penny becomes overjoyed and hugs her tightly.
In Volume 3, Penny is competing against Pyrrha in the Vytal Tournament when tragedy strikes. Emerald uses her semblance to trick Pyrrha into destroying Penny, slicing her into pieces with her own weapon, killing her and revealing her secret to the whole world. The villains use Penny’s death to incite panic and fear, and the Fall of Beacon ensues.
Penny is not seen for a long time following her death, but in Volume 7 she has been brought back, her robotic core recovered and a new body built. Her chassis and weapons are upgraded, and, remarkably, she shows little initial change in personality from her brutal death in Amity Arena. Penny remains largely the same earnest, slightly-naive girl who she was before the events of the Fall, still just as curious and excitable as ever.
Penny continues to play a part of multiple major events in Volume 7, namely the Council Election and Winter Maiden plotlines.
The former sees her framed for murder by Tyrian and Watts, and subsequent scenes reveal new things about the nature of her construction. When Ruby asks why Pietro is concerned for Penny’s safety, stating that “[e]ven if the worst does happen, [he] can always reactivate her,” Pietro reveals that her aura is actually given from his own reserves, and as such, with every reconstruction she grows more difficult to rebuild.
The latter plotline features her in relation to Winter, who is slated to take on the Maiden powers after the current holder, Fria. Winter states in previous scenes that she dislikes how she allows her emotions to get the better of her, at first stating that Penny wouldn’t understand but then attempting to apologize and clarify her poor wording. Later, during a battle with Cinder, the Winter Maiden surrounds herself in a whirlwind of freezing air, fast enough to rip Winter’s gloves from her hands and cold enough to leave ice burns on her fingers. Penny, seeing this, decides to dive in, relying on her leg-mounted rockets and synthetic skin to soldier through the dangerous conditions. This, combined with Winter’s efforts to hold back Cinder, allow Penny to secure the Maiden powers, taking them up herself.
Robots as Representation
Robots are a powerful tool for tropes because they are in most cases created as imitations of life, most commonly humanity. Combined with sentience or even simply heightened degrees of knowledge/adaptability compared to real world robots, this allows for many philosophical questions to build off for subplots (what is a person, what is emotion, etc.) However, the same factor that makes a robot such a good exploration into what defines humanity simultaneously makes them such a poor allegory for marginalized groups.
Real world bigotry is between humans, from one group of humans to another based on superficial differences. All parties involved are the same species with the same key makeup. Bigots often insist that groups are different in some fundamental way that makes them the enemy or the outsider, a strategy to rationalize their bigotry when in reality, no such fundamental differences exist. All people are all human, all people deserve the respect and dignity of a human being.
With a robot, however, the definition of “human” can get blurry. Robots are, at their core, imitations. Depending on the media, this could mean, for instance, operating on different logical principles, or that possessing physical traits, internal or external, that mark them as definedly not human. This blurring of the lines is good thing for “what is humanity” plotline, but an incredibly bad one for representation. This is in especially poor taste when the groups that said robot is often supposed to be representing (a-spec, aro-spec, neurodivergent, and/or nonbinary) are frequently referred to as “robotic” as an insult. It is used to dehumanize us, to insinuate we are lacking in something that would otherwise make us more.
There is also the issue of context. This trope being as widespread as it is, some traits in a robot are markedly “human” while others are markedly not. Generally, these traits include the ability to articulate emotion, the ability to take things figuratively, feelings of attraction (platonic, romantic, sexual), and others. These, coincidentally, all line up with the very same groups robots are most often coded to represent. Some neurodivergent people have difficulty articulating their emotions or understanding subtext. Some aro-spec or a-spec people do not feel romantic or sexual attraction, respectively. Robots like the Terminator, who shows little emotion and frequently takes things too literally, are generally seen as less “human” than a robot who clearly articulates their emotion (i.e. Transformers, the Iron Giant, Wall-E, etc.)
Allegories, for all their versatility, always go both ways. Comparing a real-world minority to a definedly inhuman character may grant said group some much-needed spotlight in media, but it can just as easily lead to the audience drawing conclusions that said minority can be likened to robots, or at the very least that the author/showrunners believe said minority can be likened to robots.
Case-Specific Additions
Penny Polendina’s plotlines lend themselves to some specific facets of the allegory for marginalized groups. Firstly, her arc is primarily about what makes a “real girl.” This is a point in her direction, as it puts the idea that she is a person front and center.
Unfortunately, this is likely the only point in her favor. Starting from her very first outing, Yang refers to her as “weird,” Weiss voices skepticism about her ability, and Ruby is urged by all of her teammates to deny that Penny is a friend. The issue here is, first and foremost, that none of these reactions are framed as bad by the story. If anything, they are barely acknowledged at all. This lends itself to the notion that it is okay to treat people who are different than you in such a way, which is not a good message for representation.
In Volume 3, perhaps the most egregious instance, she is quite literally ripped apart on live television, her secret revealed to the world against her will. This not only results in her death, but in the deaths of many others due to the Fall of Beacon. Beyond the brutality of this scene and the message it sends through the lens of representation (being unwillingly “outed,” violently murdered, and used as a tool for further violence and death), it also created the Volume 7 conundrum of her being brought back to life.
Morbid as it sounds, mortality is one of the things that ties all humans together. Death is permanent and tragic, but one could argue it is integral to the human experience. Penny, however, defies this with her resurrection, not by magic nor miracle, but by virtue of her robotic core being retrieved and a body being rebuilt around it. The story tries to rectify this by saying that Pietro can’t restore her forever, but this does not actually put a hard limit on the number of times she can be brought back. It simply puts a limit on the number of times Pietro alone can bring her back; anyone with a reserve could theoretically donate the needed aura to rebuild Penny should she be destroyed again (provided her core is retrievable).
Finally, the end of Volume 7 sees her claim the Maiden powers. While it seems the narrative attempts to frame this as a confirmation that she is a real girl, the context surrounding that same scene shows otherwise. The howling vortex of freezing wind was shown to be too strong and too dangerous for a flesh-and-blood human to reach through, tearing apart Winter’s gloves and freezer-burning her fingers when she attempted. Penny’s ability to penetrate this whirlwind was not thanks to her supposed humanity, but thanks to the upgrades to her chassis that included both strengthened synthetic skin and rocket boosters on her legs. Both were only added during her reconstruction, which was only possible due to her robotic nature. Penny’s storyline in Volume 7 renders the foundations of her humanity-based plotline shaky at best, contradictory at worst. Unfortunately, this leaves her with more negatives than positives.
Closing Thoughts
In summary, robotic characters are generally a good way to explore what it means to be a person, but due to the dual-edged nature of allegory, they often make poor allegories for marginalized groups. Ways to rectify this would be making an explicitly human character also a member of the demographic(s) the robotic character is a part of, though that requires at the very least some form of confirmation from the writers, which as of now, has not been given.
Of course, these are just my opinions on the matter, but if you have not scrolled past or clicked away already I hope that you take my points into consideration when making your own opinions and/or headcanons. Please also note that my thoughts on Penny as poor representation do not reflect my thoughts on her as a character, nor are they intended as an attack on those who like her. Finally, please remember that Penny is not (as of yet) canonically confirmed to be a member of any of these groups.
As much as I would like to see myself and my demographics represented in the show, I simply believe that Penny Polendina is not the best way to go about it.
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Aphobia//
I'm an Asian-American panromantic grey-ace, so I know what I'm talking about when it comes to othering and marginalization of the ace/aro community.
I try to keep my blog positive for myself and my followers because it is meant to be an escape, but there's a reason why I reblog so many ace/aro related posts that unfortunately have aphobic rhetoric:
I genuinely lost a lot of faith in Tumblr and Twitter allyship from other lbgtq+ people. Most, but not all, ace/aro positive reblogs I see come from other ace/aro people. If you are an allo ally, please know that I appreciate it so greatly and my heart swells with happiness when I see it on my dash.
I learned that I have to stop waiting for people to come around, and try to change minds myself. My heart is too broken from too many people I trusted to have the same level of good faith anymore.
People are not getting that attacking cis hetero romantic aces/hetero sexual aros/demiromantics hurts ALL of us. Why aren't people listening to us sga aces/aros? So many of us are poc and/or experiance multi attraction, but we are swept under the rug because it is more convenient to imagine all aces/aros represent the pinnacle of privilage.
((Personal and fandom specific)) I used to follow so many more Transformers blog, a fandom I am so damn passionate about and whose Tumblr fandom is so overhelmingly lbgtq+. Whose source material is so damn inclusive. But so many times now, I've been sucker punched by popular blogs that casually reblog aphobic content and no one wants to correct them because in this climate allies and ace/aros don't know if we're gonna get any support.
As an Asian-American, I see so many parallels of my experiances as an Asian woc and an ace being invalidated. I've experianced the nuances of differing privilages, but I also experianced how damaging "oppression olympics". So many of the Asian American experiances are being invalidated because they are different, less violent (in some regards), and less visible to mainstream knowledge.
Being hurt so much by other lbgtq+ people is affecting how I express my allyship. I've been sucker punched so many times now that when I see wonderful art posts celebrating different lbgtq+ identities and don't see ace/aro, I can't help but think "are they exclusionists?" but won't go to their blogs to check in fear of finding triggering aphobic content. I know that most of these creators aren't aphobes or exclusionists, but a part of me asks "what if?".
Exclusionism to me it feels like I'm expected to support racist feminists who attacks woc and who would happily leave us put of their activism, but the general consensus is that I should support them unconditionally because they are feminists. Racists feminists hurt me and they don't care about me! Of course I want to support white feminists like I do with every other feminists of color, but I've been hurt so badly and I kept thinking "will this person hurt me?".
To the aphobes and exclusionists, ask yourselves why are you so angry at us? Why are you aligning yourselves with people that floods ace/aro positive blogs and tags to trigger us, people who were so upset when ace/aros have access to suicide hotlines, who makes troll accounts to trigger other lbgtq people and goad them into hating us, who uses rhetorics that is the same or similar used in biphobia, panphobia, nbphobia, etc?
I'm tired, I'm heart broken, and I'm paranoid all the time and I hate it. I want to enjoy Pride Month so more than I am now, but I'm waiting for the next sucker punch.
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Witness: Donda
Creator name (AO3): Donda
Creator name (Tumblr): thatonezombiecosplayer
Link to creator works: https://archiveofourown.org/users/Donda
Q: Why the Mad Max Fandom?
A: I kind of just tend to find one thing I like, and latch onto it with a deathgrip, though there's not really one specific reason I latched onto Mad Max. The only post-apocalyptic thing I had any interest in prior to Fury Road was a comic called Romantically Apocalyptic, but I wouldn't have called myself a die-hard fan of the genre. I think it was just that Fury Road was such a fantastic movie in so many ways that it really caught my attention, and then when I got involved in the fandom, I found it to be all around a really really great group of people, and they were talking about such interesting things, and I just fell in love and decided this was my fandom home! Since then, I've made some really good friends through this fandom and gotten involved in Wasteland Weekend because of it, so this fandom will always remain near and dear to me.
Q: What do you think are some defining aspects of your work? Do you have a style? Recurrent themes?
A: I really like to take this dark, gritty world, and make it kind of light and fun, honestly. Or at least as much as one can without completely detracting from the reality of the state of the world. I've written a couple of darker or more serious fics, but my favorite things to write involve putting a touch of magic or an interesting little twist into the world, and handling the sillier side of things.
Q: Which of your works was the most fun to create? The most difficult? Which is your most popular? Most successful? Your favourite overall?
A: I think I had equal amounts of fun writing my Pocket Sized and Corvus Cormax, because they were just light and silly and kind of intriguing situations for me. I also really really enjoyed writing No Going Back, even though it was on the more serious side of things for me. The prompt just grabbed my imagination, and I was really inspired to write from start to finish. For most difficult, I'll have to go with Consonance, because I am presently stuck on it and have been for months and if you were reading and enjoying that one, I am so so sorry. D: Convalescence got the most hits and kudos overall, but I think that was mostly just because it was posted very early in the Fury Road fandom. Just based on response, I'd say Corvus Cormax was my most popular/successful, and was also my favorite overall.
Q: How do you like your wasteland? Gritty? Hopeful? Campy? Soft? Why?
A: Hopeful with a bit of humor and sometimes a little wasteland magic. I'm into escapism first and foremost, so the least like our own world I can make things, the more enjoyable.
Q: Walk us through your creative process from idea to finished product. What's your prefered environment for creating? How do you get through rough patches?
A: The idea itself usually sparks scenes in my head, and I build around those. Sometimes I'll be writing along and think of something I'd like to happen down the line, or a scene will just start playing through my head, so I'll go write that, and connect the pieces later. Which can sort of cause problems, because when I go writing all the good bits first, filling in the bits in between that are less interesting can get tedious. When I hit a patch that just leaves me completely stuck, most often running the fic by someone else and bouncing ideas around with them helps me tremendously. I tend to like to write from the comfort of my room where there aren't a lot of distractions, but sometimes I'll write on my phone if I'm away from my computer and bored or inspired.
Q: What (if any) music do you listen to for help getting those creative juices flowing?
A: Honestly I basically always listen to my entire music library on random. It's super eclectic, but I'm so familiar with all my songs that it's basically just background noise. Very occasionally I will skip a song that's not suiting the mood of what I'm writing, but mostly anything goes.
Q: What is your biggest challenge as a creator?
A: Getting stuck sucks so much and is my most common problem, because sometimes I feel like I have just exhausted all ideas and there's nowhere to go. Bouncing ideas off of other people always helps, but often I avoid that either because I don't want to bother people, or because I'm super protective of my works until I consider them done. I don't know, I just like people to read the work in it's finalized form, as I intend it to be read, and not in some incomplete messy state.
Q: How have you grown as a creator through your participation in the Mad Max Fandom? How has your work changed? Have you learned anything about yourself?
A: I'm sure my writing has improved, but it's been such a fluid process that I'm not really sure! I guess I've grown and my work has changed in that I've gotten braver in my ideas, more willing to just go for something and not worry about people thinking it's silly or I'm weird.
Q: Do you have any favourite relationships to portray? What interests you about them?
A: I'm aro/ace myself, so fandom ships have never been a big draw of mine. I tag a lot of my works with "platonic soulmates" because I've just fallen in love with the idea of Max and Furiosa being very close to each other, but not romantically or sexually. They have a really interesting dynamic, and I like to explore them really getting to know each other completely platonically.
Q: How does your work for the fandom change how you look at the source material?
A: I've explored some headcanons in my writing, and built on ideas in ways that let me sort of see more into the movie, imagine things under the surface beyond the canon, and feel like I know the motivations behind certain characters' actions, even if it's never explained.
Q: Do you prefer to create in one defined chronology or do your works stand alone? Why or why not?
A: My works stand alone for the most part. I've got two series that each consist of a couple fics that follow the same timeline, but otherwise each of my fics is a completely different world.
Q: To break or not to break canon? Why?
A: *Chanting* break canon, break canon, break canon. I like playing with new ideas! Sometimes it's fun to explore some headcanons with fic and build on the movie that way, but I've found that taking the canon and changing a detail and letting it play out from there is the most fun.
Q: Share some headcanons.
A: Immortal!Max is my biggest and most-loved headcanon. I like the idea that he's only sort of peripherally aware of it, too. He knows it's been a pretty long time since the fall of the world, and he's catching on that people who appear his age were born after the fall, but if it even has sunk in that he's not aging and not dying, he actively tries not to think about it too much because that seems like Too Much and he's not ready to face that. He's accepted it as a possibility, but he doesn't put much weight on it. It's just part of him now, and all he can do is live with it.
Q: If you work with OCs walk us through your process for creating them. Who are some of your favourites?
A: Eheh... My OCs are basically fleshed out juuuust enough to be believable and I put zero effort into them beyond that, to be honest. They're often only there to help along the story for the canon characters, and then I toss them away and never think about them again.
Q: What advice can you give someone who is struggling to make their own works more interesting, compelling, cohesive, etc.?
A: I don't know if my methods will work for anybody else, but three things: 1) imagine the scene like it's a movie playing out in front of you, before writing, while writing, and while re-reading. It helps me keep track of who is where, what's going on, and it makes any continuity mistakes really jump out at me. 2) really get into your characters' heads, think like they do, and share their motivations for what they're doing and their thoughts at what is going on around them in your writing. I think that helps people relate to them more and get into the story more, and it makes you think about how characters would react in realistic, if not always outwardly reasonable, ways. 3) Proof read like a crazy person. This may be weird, but similar to how I get into my characters' heads when I write, I also sort of get into... well, not my own head, when I re-read my works. I try to put myself in a different perspective, and proof-reading my fics with a different mindset really helps me see things that didn't end up making sense the first time around, or sound off, or might be confusing if you don't already know where I was going with it. If I'm thinking like I was when I wrote it, of course everything's going to make sense and work the way I imagined it. If I throw out those preconceptions and intentions, it can almost seem completely new to me, like it would be to a reader reading it for the first time.
Q: Have you visited or do you plan to visit Australia, Wasteland Weekend, or other Mad Max place?
A: I would love to visit Australia, though honestly when I do, priority number one is going to be bats, weird marsupials, and other wildlife. Australia stands out to me mostly as being this weird giant island where evolution just went fucking crazy. But Wasteland Weekend! Hoo boy am I involved in Wasteland Weekend, let me tell you, and I absolutely love it. I love the themed areas and how they completely immerse you in the world, I love the community (seriously, some of the best people I have ever met) and even though it was originally built on Mad Max, which is generally a pretty violent, hard world, I love the atmosphere people create there: the idea that even if the world ended and society as we know it collapsed, people would coexist, look out for each other, and celebrate life. 10/10, highly recommend, hit me up if you plan on attending in the future.
Q: Tell us about a current WIP or planned project.
A: I've unfortunately fallen out of writing quite a bit for the time being, so no planned projects outside of what I'm currently working on, but boy let me tell you how much I love the one I'm co-writing with Catlady! We've put a ton of thought and worldbuilding into it, and a lot of character development in the works for Max, as well as his developing relationship with Furiosa. It's an AU that really gets my imagination going, and I'm super excited for some of the things we have planned. If you like Fae and wasteland magic and discovering/learning to accept oneself, go check out our fic Forgotten Ways!
Thank you @thatonezombiecosplayer
#Mad Max Fandom Creator Spotlight#Mad Max Fandom Spotlight#mad max fanfic#mad max fanfic author spotlight#fury road fanfic#fanfic author spotlight#donda#thatonezombiecosplayer
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Current opinions on popular discourse
- You don’t need dysphoria to be trans, but you do need incongruence (the disconnect itself, not the discomfort)
-Being trans is a mental illness and gender incongruence is a diagnosable disorder. Gender dysphoria should be considered a possible side effect of incongruence
-Cishet aces/aros aren’t causing as many problems as a lot of people think and should be allowed to enjoy lgbt+ spaces, but should recognize that they are not nearly as actively and violently oppressed as others in the community and should let them speak on some matters
-MOGAI is valid as long as those using MOGAI terms and pronouns recognize and understand that most of the world disagrees and it’s just gonna be like that for a while longer
-Same goes for neopronouns
-Suicide baiting is never okay, EVER
-Both sides of any argument have extremists that’re doing harm, sometimes one side more than the other, but they’re always there
-Otherkin isn’t bad as long as the person participating understands their feelings and reasoning about it and understands that it’s not something that should be used as a main coping mechanism for serious issues, and that if they have other issues they should seek professional help
-Factkin are not something that should be discussed in large circles or celebrated, but if it’s a coping mechanism for a larger issue a person has, I understand and it’s okay to have that coping mechanism if it’s your only option, but that person should seek professional help to work through their problems.
-He/Him lesbians are still confusing for me but I understand at least some of the history behind the use of that identity with those pronouns, and again I’d never attack somebody for identifying that way, I’m just still confused on the matter, but I’m actively educating myself on it
-Drag should be open to celebrate for all, but you can’t be a drag queen if you’re a cis woman or a drag king if you’re a cis man. I’m still unsure about what to think on trans men being drag kings or trans women being drag queens.
-Pansexual is an okay label to use for people who use it mostly because it just makes them feel better, but anybody who uses it SPECIFICALLY because they think bisexual is too exclusive of a label is biphobic and frankly transphobic/enbyphobic
-TERFs and SWERFs should still fuck off
-Cultural appropriation isn’t cool or good but if it’s in the case of something that is very openly practiced or used and you understand the history behind it, it’s okay to do (things like wearing leis or wearing kimono/yukata) (but if it’s something that is like. Sacred to a culture or from a closed culture or religion? Don’t even think about it unless you’re from or apart of that culture/religion or you’re with somebody from that culture/religion who is approving of your actions)
-Any and all slurs can be reclaimed by those they were used against
-Don’t use reclaimed slurs to talk about people who are still uncomfortable with said slurs (things like queer)
-People can change and many of our past mistakes don’t reflect our current selves (literally any person on this hellsite I guarantee could have a callout post made about them that would turn everybody against them if we all took every mistake as heavily with normal people as we do with celebrities etc)
Let me know if there’s any other hot tea I forgot to put my two cents down on
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list of characters who died in infinity war
here’s a list of popular/common users who are aphobes so those of us who don’t want to platform them can avoid them or in other words, I see these guys casually on posts a lot and want you all who are reblogging them to know they are aphobes (and some of them have done worse yet, such as abuse, rape apologism, transphobia, being anti sj, racism, etc)tw for: ableism, abuse, abuse apologism, biphobia, body shaming, child sexual abuse, cissexism, conversion therapy, death/violent threats, fatphobia, gaslighting, homophobia, intersexism, lesbophobia, misgendering, pedo apologism, pedophilia, queerphobia, racism, radfems/terfs/swerfs, rape, rape apologism, sex shaming, sexism, sexual abuse, sexual harassment, suicide baiting, transphobia, truscum, whorephobia
. Keep in mind these may contain users that have been removed.[edit4] Aphobic as in,
don’t believe aro/aces are LGBT+,
don’t think aphobia is real, don’t think ace/aro pride is needed and/or that it is homophobic, don’t think aro/ace issues should be discussed,
think asexuality and aromanticism aren’t real, are “just modifiers”, are “just internalized homophobia”, and/or are fake “special snowflake” identities,
or worse, that aspecs need to be medically/psychologically examined - that being aspec is or is a symptom of a medical disorder or mental illness,
think asexuality just means someone doesn’t like or have sex,
don’t think we should educate about asexuality,
think minors can’t be aspec,
think the A is for “ally” which is particularly ironic while arguing aces don’t belong because they’re “cishet invaders”
think asexuality and/or aromanticism is pedophilia, homophobic, inherently abusive, or nsfw, etc
believe having sex without attraction is bad, mentally ill, abusive, rape, etc (just in general a lot of sex-shaming shit that often pulls in whorephobia), or even think aspecs can’t or shouldn’t date
often don’t even think you can be gay/etc and ace, and make sweeping statements against asexuality in general, so “lgbt aces” is a bunch of lying shit
make and support numerous lies regarding the discourse, such as that MOGAI was “coined by a pedophile” or that aspec was “stolen from autistics”
And most of them are biphobic, such as believing biphobia doesn’t exist, using phrases like “bihet”, and hating on “”””new”””” or “”””fake”””” identities in general, which means many are truscum/anti-nonbinary/exorsexist as well (fun fact: truscum came up with this “the mogais” shit btw), and most of them believing in “straight/cis passing” privilege
And tend to have a habit of shitting on people who identify as queer, or even imply or directly say nobody is allowed to ID as queer, as well as a habit of intersexism on top of that. Many also think it’s inherently homophobic to be triggered or uncomfortable by general pda and related content, including sexually explicit content (there’s generally a lot of anti-survivor and anti-sex repulsed bs).
Annnnd a lot of the cis here keep using “cishet” which is not their fucking word to use! because they have cis privilege! they are not oppressed by cis people! And a lot of them speak over trans people or outright try to educate us about what is “really” transphobic in the discourse. And the amount of misgendering is extreme, if the above big and bold part didn’t indicate that well enough.
Just look at my damned discourse tag ffs.
That being said of course if you see someone on here who is additionally abusive, an assailant, a radfem/truscum, etc, feel free to mention it. Blogs like
@regreceipts
and
@aphobehallofshame
and
@justaphobethings
has quite a lot of posts on these people (and others) saying awful things and being nasty.[edit] Due to the increased harassment, transphobia, and threats, I am now auto-blocking everyone added to this list. If you do NOT believe
any
of the above and I’ve made a mistake, you’ll have to find another way besides a message or reply to correct this.[edit] Also, (many) people on here aren’t irredeemable, there have been cases of people changing and being removed from here. There’s also the case of when someone else (often unrelated) takes over the URL and gets removed from here. If that happens, let me know… but again because of the abuse, these blogs are autoblocked, so you’ll have to find a way around that.[edit5]
“Why are there deactivated people on here?”
because regardless of deactivation their posts still exist and their comments on others’ posts also still exist, so, people who don’t want to give aphobes a platform should avoid those posts,
that’s the point of this list
0829z
0nlyskeletonbcnesremain
16bitdiscourse (also threatens physical violence on aces for coming out)
343-guiltyspark / x2013x (also a terf and makes posts about violently attacking trans people)
37q
3amstims
3coursemeal
410940
4lung
6-/-6-6 (remove / for blocking purposes, tumblr autocorrects it to a longer dash)
6c415f (also a terf and biphobe)
6juggernaut
8bitprincex
9-lovs (also a terf and pedo apologist)
96galdeco
999twink
9enj1
a-bit-of-luck-and-a-lot-of-hunk
a-phobia
aawb (also a terf, doesn’t believe in biphobia, doesn’t believe that refusing to date or befriend bi people is biphobic, and believes that bi women are privileged over lesbians)
abigots
abracababra / discourspicy
accelgors (also biphobic)
ace-aro-spectrum-ppl-can-b-str8
ace-bpd-sangwoo
ace-cringe
ace-discourse-attorney
ace-tears
acecommunityreceipts (also claims aces can’t be raped for being ace)
acediscourse-central
acediscourseconsumer
acediscoursehalloffame
acediscourselesbian
acediskhorse
acenvy
aceoppression (also believes calling trans people cishets isn’t misgendering)
acephobeon
acephobia101 (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to childrenand that you can’t know you’re ace until you’re a teen)
acephobiafreediscourse (also defended discourseprincesa (see below) and protested her outing)
acephobiaisajoke / gonnadeleteafter (also a rape apologist)
acepom
acetungldotcom (also suicide baits; wishes death on aces)
aceslation / lesbiandiscordblog (also blames Ace Tumblr TM for lesbian porn)
acevorese
acting-lesbianistically
aceslayertrannie
acetungle
acewlws
achievement-hunter
acoupleofradfems (also a terf)
actualaphobe
adlernotes
adrogony (also a harasser/violates people’s boundaries)
aejeung
aephobe
aescourse (also literally used the term “coping culture” to describe aspec identities because it’s just “internalized problems” and in general that’s skeevy and ableist-sounding as fuck)
afrodeitys
aggressivelygay (also claims the Q has never been for queer)
airoehead
akefiah (also believes trans men can use the b slur)
akuicnhialic
alanturiing (also believes aces should not “come out” / that it’s appropriation for aces to come out)
aleshakills
alexagent21
alexandrareadsthings / lgbtandlatinxandloud
alexjames1991 (also anti-sj)
alexkarev
alfonsopoopoofattylll
algo-hermoso
alicecourse / rosedisquartz / happy-dys / nancy-elsner (also polices how people with DID and/or are otherkin identify)
all-about-that-discourse
allamericanaphobe
allo-dyke-privilege (also compares aspecs to donald trump / other bigots)
allobot
alloculture (also compares aspecs to donald trump / other bigots)
allodiscourse (also believes the existence of aces contributes to sexualizing other lgbt+ people)
allogay-agenda
allogaycipher
allogrips
allojaneway (also mocks “"new”“ identities / neurogenders, ableist truscum vibe)
allolesbean
allolovingallo
allosecual (also believes queerphobia doesn’t exist, ignores white privilege)
allosexiness
allosluts
alloturkey
alolagay
alysscourse
amant-lesbienne
ambient-heart
ambiguouslyevil / platypusbunny (also defended discourseprincesa (see below) and protested her outing)
ambipom
amhsmuseum (also suicide baits, this blog is also an abuse porn blog)
amiibo
amorpatriae (also believes everyone who identifies as queer is a "pretentious heterosexual”)
an-gremlin
anachronizomai
anafenza
anakinsskywanker (also doesn’t think misgendering trans people / calling lgbt people cishet is oppressive)
anandrine
anarchistmermaid
anarcho-bulbasaurism
anarcho-dragonitism (also does the “nonbinary people are basically binary”/”being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit)
anarcho-dykeism
anderskin
angelazieglr
angelbabyspice
angelicaphobe (also compares asexuality to having a fetish)
angelicorice
angelsongs
angryangryaphobe (also believes being attracted to nonbinary genders makes you straight; believes that “nonbinary people are basically binary” crap)
angryblackgirlrants (also doesn’t believe women are oppressed)
angryintersectionalfeminist
angrylesbianpitbull (also believes people identify as queer just to invade discussions/spaces and get out of their privileges)
animedyke
angrysapphist
anti-ace-queen
anti-anime-pro-equality (I’m sourcing this one too because it can also be conflicting but for one as far as I can tell they are involved with numerous aphobes and they also think asexuality is all about not wanting sex, reblogging this post about how ace minors don’t exist)
anti-sjw-fluttershy
antiblackness
antifamagneto
antinagisa / thhpll (also racist, believes in reverse racism, speaks over poc, ableist / anti self-diagnosis, believes romance repulsion is rape culture, believes having sex without attraction is rape / manipulative, whorephobic / anti sex worker)
antiporn-activist (also a terf and swerf)
antmanns
apatheticattercop
aphobe-bones
aphobe-stocking
aphobeasriel / starflowey
aphobekorra (also believes minors can’t be ace)
aphobelesbianopinions (also suicide baits, supportssobercommunist, (see below) truscum undertones, thinks pan and ace aren’t real identities, says rape victims lie about their rape, and more)
aphobelovingcharacteroftheday
aphobeoka (also jokes about bigots being ace / makes AIDS jokes)
aphobes
aphobes-are-dumb
aphobespock
aphobestephanie
aphobeyurio
aphobi-wan-kenobi / lesbeans-on-toast
aphobia-is-real-because
aphobic-absol / crowfamiliar / crow-png (also demands aces who have sex stop calling themselves ace)
aphobic-dragon (also a truscum)
aphobic-flame-the-dragon / theflameneverdies (also believes intersex people don’t belong while being perisex, and dodges blocks with alternate accounts)
aphobic-mccree (also a terf)
aphobicalloagender
aphobicallogender (suicide baits, tells people to get raped, hopes aces will die)
aphobiccharacteroftheday
aphobicd-va (also pulls that “nonbinary people are basically binary” shit / “being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit)
aphobicgemini (also makes jokes about bigots being ace)
aphobicjace
aphobickaworu (also defends making AIDS jokes)
aphobickoopalings
aphobiclottieperson
aphobicpearl
aphobicpokemon (also thinks aces can’t have sex and be ace, believes aro/aces dating other people are being abusive, thinks bisexuality is strictly defined as “attraction to same and other genders” and anyone who isn’t sga can’t be bi - also pulling that “nonbinary people are basically binary”/”being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit and believes in “straight passing privilege”)
aphobicpoppy
aphobicsappho (also tells abuse victims their abuse wasn’t real, defends terfs)
aphobicsga / lesbodiscourse (also doesn’t believe children can be ace / that asexuality is inherently sexual)
aphobicstimming
aphobitch
aphroditelesbians (also a terf)
apobicnblesbian (also ableist)
apocalypselesbian
apple-lesbian (also truscum)
applescabs
aqollyon
aqua-nymphe (also terfy/transphobic)
arcadewave / 3000s / kiddieride
archerz
archiesgirls
archon-reblogs
are-cishets-lgbt
areoea (also makes sexual abuse jokes)
arentyouacuteone (also thinks telling people their abuse didn’t happen / they’re lying is okay and not gaslighting)
aresen
argxenta
ariikado
aroacechirrut (also believes headcanoning characters from children’s media as ace is “pedophilic”)
aroacediscourser (this is the person who made the “if you’re attracted to the opposite gender you’re straight” and also made a post that said “being attracted to more than one gender doesn’t make sense” so yeah they are literally a biphobe and their post was meant to be biphobic stop defending this shit lol)
artschooolgirlfriend
asensuality
asexuaisarevalid / asexualsarevalid2
ashauyel (also compares asexuals to bigots)
ashmage
asiansarecuteee (also derails posts about threats/violence towards aspecs)
asideofdiscourse
asimplepersonsblog
ask-oncies-jizz
asking-ask (also uses words like “transgendered”)
asleepingwindow
asmexuallyactive
astolfo-official
astralbodyodyody
asutori (also claims aces can’t be raped for being ace)
autumnsora
auntiewanda (also a terf)
autisticbadger / badgerbutch / aspecbadger / discoursebadger (also mocks triggers, whorephobic, racist, sex-shames, biphobic, and much more)
autisticponies
avantgaye
avpdroxylalonde
awaitingthematriarchy (also a terf)
awkwardanon
awtisticsapphire
baba-discourse
babyfairy
baconcourse (also believes nonbinary people can have cis privilege / don’t experience transphobia, doesn’t believe in biphobia, believes all aro people are inherently abusive for dating alloromantic people and that aces are “evil and manipulative” for dating, supports aphobelesbianopinions (see above), supportsgoblincourse (see below), believes The Ace Community TM is pedophilic; that aces think pedophilia is an orientation / that accepting aces is the same as accepting pedophilia, doesn’t believe any inclusionists are trans and/or poc, misgenders inclusionists including by calling them “b*tch”, believes all inclusionists are pedophiles)
badgrapple (also believes donald trump “isn’t anti-lgbt or pro-lgbt”)
badiscourse (also accused blog the-uncultured-lesbian of being ace)
baehraini (also terfy and believes the concept of biphobia is lesbophobic)
baenemy (also believes cishet women/allies can use the words femme and homo to describe themselves)
balletdiscourse
bandaidboys (also transphobic, biphobic, anti-otherkin, and mocks autistic people)
basrouge
batcourse (also believes queerphobia doesn’t exist)
bathole
batslime
beachdeath (also believes there’s “no legitimate evidence or personal accounts” of aces being raped for being ace, which is gaslighty as fuck (the link is of a reply to beachdeath’s reblog of this post))
beaky-peartree
beatleshater
bee-nut (also hates “”new””/””special snowflake”” identities / truscum vibe)
beenawayforages
beesbian
beesjpg
belbelmi
bendyscourse
benepla (also states there’s “no legitimate evidence or personal accounts” of aces being raped for being ace, which is gaslighty as fuck)
bensplayhouse1
berrycourse (considers “”“new”“” identities and aro/ace to all be internalized homo/transphobia / truscum vibe, also doesn’t think misgendering trans people / calling lgbt people cishet is oppressive)
beware-the-cishets (also doesn’t believe in biphobia)
bi-fly-and-datingaguy (also a radfem, twerf and swerf)
bi-is-beautiful
big-boss-official
bigmeangay
bigmeansjw
bigmeansweatydyke (also a terf)
bihettrash
billymacher / chrisjoshington
biancathewalker (also terfy/transphobic)
bioethicists
biomerge (also believes aces are actually “just ugly and weird”)
biosexuals
biotic
bipeoplearentyourpawns
bipolarbmo
birbcourse
birdfacts
bisexual-rose-quartz
bisexualdiscourser (also a terf/transphobe, anti-sj, and literallyeverything that goes with that, but probably just a troll)
bitchboi-naughty
bitterfuckinglesbian
bitterqueer420
blackberryshawty
blackmagneto
blackmodel
blackout2022 (also evades blocks, harasses, calls inclusionists the b slur and r slur)
blaur
bleep-blop-lizard-hop (also terfy/transphobic)
blinkpen (also believes there’s “too much focus” on trans women’s issues)
blkwlw
bloodglutton (also claims aces can’t be raped for being ace)
bluepulserjaime (also truscummy, believes neurogender nonbinary genders are anti-recovery)
bmwdealer
bndys
bodyalignment
bofa-gender (also a truscum who believes it’s not transphobic to refuse to date trans people, and that trans men experience misogyny and should have access to women’s spaces)
bolshoiborzoi / lesbianborzoi
boo-against-baddies (also truscum)
boolesbian
borderlinetraumatized
boreddiscourse
borxoii
borzoidoesdiscourse
boycoveredingoo
bpd-corgi
bpdhitoshi
bpdskullgrunt
brainpile
bratzmutual
break-your-bars
breastforce (it can be confusing but here’s a post she reblogged that says Ace Tumblr TM lies about asexuality being pathologized from a known and aggressive aphobe)
brehaaorgana
brensey (also anti sj)
broadcastillusion
brownsunbisexual (also is cis and says the ace community TM manipulates bi and trans people into being inclusionist)
brucespringsteen
bugcourse (also truscum / polices nonbinary identities despite being cishet because “mogai hell genders”, also believes queerphobia doesn’t exist)
bugzone
buippy / jackryandavis
bumbleshark
bunfem (also a terf and believes asexuality is a part of rape culture)
bunnietail
bunnyfemme
but-um (also a terf)
butch-kira
butchgender
butchscientist
butchspace
butchvulpix
butmuhgains
bvrger-kween
byesexualqueen (also a radfem)
c-c-top (also supports spamming tags with anti-aspec posts)
c-rowteeth
cadaverjones
cakecourse (also believes minors can’t be ace and if they feel sexual feelings there’s something wrong with them, also calls people lesbophobic for pointing out that there’s a lot of terf, biphobe, and/or aphobe lesbian positivity blogs)
calbrone
calicodiscourse
callout-atm
captain-narraboth
captainfunkpunkandroll
captainmarajade
captainprism
cardozzza (also defended discourseprincesa (see below) and protested her outing)
careyfangbutch
carmillasleatherpants / biiconelise
carothepandragon
caseation
caseydickdanger / d-d-dangerous (also lied about a popular TME inclusionist coining “aerf” among other accusations to discredit “the inclusionist movement”)
catandkitty (also supports posting nsfw and triggering content in ace tags and defended intentionally triggering a csa survivor)
cats-discourse (also believes straight privilege exists for people who are not straight, because it’s “not defined by being straight”)
catsdefensesquad / kokumarostew
catsickles (mocks conversion therapy, says aces should be sent to therapy)
catsoftheworldunite (also compares asexuality to fetishes)
cattgirl
chaicourse (also mocks “"new”“ identities / neurogenders, ableist truscum vibe)
chainsawpunk
chamfrons-checques-n-champignons
chaotic-neutral-gay
chaotlcneutral
cheappussyweaves
cherryaid-fountain
cherrycolacourse
cherrydiscourse (also believes aces should not "come out” / that it’s appropriation for aces to come out, compares inclusionists to MRAs, speaks over trans people, unsurprisingly a TERF apologist)
cherryseltzer
cherubdiscourse
cheryltunts
childlikemperor / radical-as-fuhk
chinaglaze
chinon / panthxra
chisayukizome
chloepricekin
choaphobia
christiandiscourse / christiandemonology
chromelesbian
chumimiin (also jokes about bigots being aspec)
chunke
cinnimani
cipote
cis-het-people-arent-lgbt
cis-radfems-are-a-joke (also doesn’t believe in biphobia / believes biphobia is a lesbophobic conspiracy)
cisbus (also called TERF rhetoric “a super valid and correct idea”)
cishetsare-cishet
cishetsbeingcishet (also calls people cishets regardless of their actual identity, as a punishment)
cishetscanfuckoff (also biphobic)
cisish
cisphobed
cisphobepapyrus
cisphobiccommunistopinions
city-gay / kerr-avon / journeyofthetardis / levihateshalloween / levihateschristmas / thelazarusofsherlockholmes / vex-and-rue / iantolives / terminally-capricious / slamthatlike
clamoribus
clara-the-slytherin-graduate
clarith
clasifieds / guyripely
clericlucius
closetedlesbianopinions
cloudylesbian
clowngaud
clownplant
clusterc
cocaineteas
coldcocoamilk
collaterlysisters (also believes aro/ace is a fake front to “colonize” the LGBT movement and believes these identites should stop existing)
commanderlotus
communist-queen
commuwuism
comrade-butterfly (claims aspec is “identifying as unloveable”, possibly a troll)
confirmed-terfs (also a terf)
confused-alien-on-earth
constowllation (also a terf)
corepixel (also believes queerphobia doesn’t exist)
corrgii
cosettefauchlevent
cosm1cnova
cosmicspacequeen
cosmionaut
cosmognosis (also tells abuse victims their abuse didn’t happen)
courtneyhammett
cozybears
cmder
crash-bandisloot
crawlybug
creepycrawlylesbian
creepymallgoth (also doesn’t believe in fatphobia / that fat people are oppressed)
creepyziegler
crimepit
criticalzarya (also a terf and biphobe)
crockertierz
crowcourse
crowtez (also truscum and anti-sj)
crmen / brigmore (also sends suicide bait, makes trigger jokes, is anti-self dx, and generally a myriad of other nasty shit)
crunchydude
crushcups
crybabey
crystalgracee
crytypecourse (also ableist)
crytypedyke (another of the “nonbinary people are basically binary” / “being attracted to nb people makes you straight” types)
crystalgemphobia (also against teaching sex ed to kids and that asexuality is all about sex and thus inappropriate to teach about)
cstalli (also suicide baits; hopes aces will die)
cuckmobile
cucksouls
cucumberpussy
cultural-flannelist
cultural-goldmanism
cursedglasses / dragontype
curseworm
cutifly
cutetransdude (also truscum)
cybernetyx
cyberni
cylon-maoist-resurrection-tankie
cynthias-garchomp
dab-course
daggerdykes
daisydiscourse
dangergays (also biphobic; believes in “straight passing privilege”)
dantelesbian
dare-i-say-asexual (also truscummy / says “mogai tumblr” pressures people to be nonbinary, believes the “goal” of The Ace Community TM is to “avoid pda/intimacy”)
darlingdearestnot
darnallogays
darthgalpal / jedilexa
darthvatrix (also a terf)
daverubinfan14 (also a troll, anti-sj, jokes about bigots like Donald Trump and etc being ace)
daxcourse
daydreamlesbian
deanky (also jokes about domestic abusers being ace)
dear-lesbophobes
deardiscourse
debunkingasexuals (also adds nsfw to ace tags and sends nsfw to people, makes rape threats, suicide baits, etc)
decadent-trans-girl
decoslime (also suicide baits; hopes aces will die)
dedsxc
deepfriedasexuals
deepseacutie
deerghoul (also compares aspecs to bigots / villains)
deirdreskye
delightfuldyke
delusionalqueer
delusioncontusion / dateaneurodivergentwho
demisexual-yuri
derryflurries
derrymutual
dethk1ok
devilterf (also a terf and makes jokes about violent bigots being ace, such as ronald reagan / makes jokes about the AIDS crisis)
diabeticjedi
dibidibidiscourse
dictatorshipoftheswoletariat
didfaker
dietloafers
dillscourse
dilutedd (also a rape apologist, speaks over intersex people, calls nonbinary identities “anti-recovery”, believes aro/ace are “just modifiers” and not identities)
dirkscoursing
dis-corpse
dis-curse
dischorses
disco-discourse
discorpseee
discorse (also believes minors can’t be ace)
discourse-dryad
discourse-not-cats (also mocks positivity because positivity is cringey I guess (lol a lot of aphobes have this opinion it seems))
discourse-sunshine / crying9octopus (also suicide baits)
discourse-wizard
discoursecherry (also believes minors can’t be ace and that if you started puberty “early” / felt sexual attraction during early puberty it’s a “bad sign”)
discoursecourse (also truscummy and ableist, cis and believes neurogenders are “anti recovery” and that neurodivergence should not be a permanent part of who you are)
discoursecringe
discoursecrystals
discourseegg
discoursekilljoy (also compares using the split attraction model / the ace community to homophobic murder)
discoursekinni
discoursemami
discoursespy
discoursefish
discourseful (also doesn’t believe in biphobia, participated in mass harassment of a suicidal blogger and mocked their triggers purely over their interpretation of their own religion)
discoursehorse (also believes it’s homophobic that cis people can’t remark on transphobic and believes Ace Tumblr “made up the cishet is a trans word discourse”)
discoursehq
discourseishell (also is cis but remarks on inclusionists “not knowing what transphobia is”)
discoursepichu (also defends using the b and r slurs against inclusionists)
discoursepikachu
discourseprincesa / cishetlivesdontmatter / aphobicfag (also pretended to be an intersex trans woc, a gay trans black minor, and more, to get away with sending violent remarks and threats to inclusionists, using slurs, harassing people, trying to doxx people, and also claimed to be a “messianic” jewish person)
discourseprincesalies
discourserei (also claims the Q has never been for queer)
discoursereid (also believes being attracted to nonbinary genders makes you straight; believes that “nonbinary people are basically binary” crap)
discoursetrilogy (also believes anyone advocating for intersex inclusion is intersexist)
discoursette (also believes people should “look deeper into it” before identifying as ace because they “could actually be sick/mentally ill, traumatized, hetero-performative, etc”)
discourseworms (also believes pansexual and other mspec identities are not real)
discoursezilla (also makes fun of triggers, and makes incest and rape porn)
discoursingsaltlord
disdiscoursetoofine
dishoarse
displacecourse (also does that “nonbinary people are basically binary”/”being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit and believes in straight passing privilege)
dissedcourse
dissthiscourse
ditchcourse
dizorder
dlscourse
doglesbian
dolley-madison
dominateeye
donetoleratingthisdiscourse
dont-do-discourse-kids
dontcallmequeer
dorrentian (also suicide baits, hopes aspecs are sent to concentration camps and they all die)
downwiththehets
dreamy-bisexual
dreamypeach (also suicide baits; hopes aces will die)
drpeppercourse
dthmod / dthefraud / fuckingrapeculture
dunkleocourse
dykealectics
dykeinator2000
dykes-course
dykesamus (also a terf)
dykeswhoprocess (also a terf)
eahdaring
easycheeseman
eatingsoapboxes
ecliptis (also ableist)
edgy-discourse (also compares using the split attraction model / the ace community to homophobic murder)
eggcave
eggylesbian
ehjaybones
elfcourse
eliscreams (also truscum/transphobic)
elusivefaerie
elvishteathief
em0tionlord / merewiftag
emeralddiscourse
emptynosesyndrome
enbyplant
endless-tiny-comforts
enoughtohold
enshima
equesbian (also claims aces can’t be raped for being ace, speaks over south african lesbians on the issue of corrective rape)
eris-against-gender (also a terf)
esbia (also a troll)
evenmoreuserboxes / evenmoreuserboxesmoved / nicemutual (edit: for those who keep asking)
everyalien
exclusionistrowlet (also compares being aspec to being an incel, says aroaces are actually incels)
exclusionaryhomosexual (also a radfem)
exclusionist-against-aphobes
exclusionisttybalt
exyclusionist (also homophobic, biphobic, and transphobic / TERFy and truscummy, posted this mess “proving” asexuality isn’t real that simultaneously defined gayness as inherently sexual, bisexuality as “attraction to men and women”, and used other trans-exclusioniary language, believes aces should not “come out” / that it’s appropriation for aces to come out, believes queerphobia doesn’t exist, supports fuckmogai (see below))
eyemeir
factori0
faded9
fadingthebiscuit (also a terf)
fag-slag (also compares asexuality/“the ace discourse” to slavery and pedophilia)
fagangels / kingshawaiiansweetrolls
fakedates
fakefurby
fakelaurent (also makes jokes about how disgusting people/bigots are ace)
faketranz
fairyling
fandomshateblackpeople (also speaks over trans people)
fanficswriter123
fangiescourse
fatallyblonde (also “sex critical” and a lesbian separatist)
fckin (also believes ace people just have internalized homophobia)
fecundism
feminismforlesbians (also a terf)
fernstream (also terfy/transphobic; believes in biological sex, defends “genital preferences” and “gold star” lesbians, says nonbinary genders aren’t real, etc)
ffxivs
ficklewitchsupporter (also a radfem and erases the identities of community founders)
fidgetspinnersuggestions
figbird
figuregayting (also misgenders nonbinary people by insisting on their relationship to the binary; said dfab people are “basically women” and “being attracted to nb people makes you straight” for example, and unsurprisingly will willingly align with twerfs)
filthyallofrank
filthyallogay
fishcourses (also aligns with TERFs)
final-roar / jouaku / askalragzos (also anti-sj and generally homo/queerphobic/anti-LGBT+)
flanneldiscourse (also truscum)
flanneldragon
fliipwizard
floralaphobe
floralsapphic
flovvright / animestump / azirabell / azirawin / noxbocksty
flowerlygirls (also a terf and thinks it’s “appropriation” for mspecs/aspecs to call themselves “gay”, a word that’s been forced on us for years)
flutespell
foir (also believes the existence of aces contributes to sexualizing other lgbt+ people)
fotnsmutual
foundthehomophobe
frogtank
fromrushhourwithlove
fucking-deactivated (also suicide baits, sends threats, anti-sj)
fuckmogai (also believes cis people can not be pan; that cis pansexuals are “fetishists” and being pansexual is “an inherently trans experience” - but also agrees with discourseworms about how pan/etc aren’t real? / truscum vibe, makes sexual remarks to / sexually harasses minors, body shames/pushes “vaginas are nasty” rhetoric)
fuckradfems
fuckrashida
fuckrigh / galruh
fulldiscourseofantibiotics / pisstocopeofficial (also defended discourseprincesa (see above) and protested her outing, believes people can’t be married platonically / that marriage is only for romantically active people)
fulljetalmacket / timgayterson
funnyanarchist (also suicide baits)
furcourse
furryanarchist / gayisntdiscourse
futchtop
futureblackpolitician
futurecrops
fvace
g4yr4t (also believes that “since asexuality is tmi” that teaching about it is sexually abusive / gross)
gaby2
galacticthor
gapdiscourse
gaphobe
garbage-empress
garbagequeer
gavereel
gavlan
gay-assy (also believes hypersexual aces are disgusting)
gay-caesar
gay-male-privilege
gayacediscourse
gayaceness
gayantigone / christianphobe
gaybestfriendcourse
gaybowzer / gaybowser
gaycentipede
gayconflictavoider
gayhani
gayhuey
gayjewish
gaykallo (considers “”“new”“” identities and aro/ace to all be internalized homo/transphobia / truscum vibe)
gaykeanu (also doesn’t even believe in “lgbt aces” and thinks you need to have sex to be gay)
gaykristoff (also supports various bigoted youtubers such as pewdiepie)
gaylor-moon
gaymaractus (also pushes that asexuality is all about sex and thus tmi)
gaymilesedgeworth / lesbocracy
gaynomics (also believes aces coming out is appropriation)
gayping
gaypussyretard (also anti-sj, terfy, racist, etc)
gayreinhardt
gayspaceprobe
gaysplainer (also mocks sexual abuse victims)
gaystin
gaysun
gaytrashcat
gaywash
gayyyluigi
gehji
gemalgamate
gender-cute
gendercriticalbear (also a terf)
genderists / nest
genderkilljoy (also a terf)
genjis-boyfriend
genquerdeer (also a pedo apologist)
ghostfem (also a terf and biphobe who thinks bi people can’t reclaim “gay”)
ghostielesbian
ghostwunk
giralina (also supported the harassment by mimikq, made creepy comments about a minor, etc)
girldagger
glasscourse
glowpools / girlphobes
gnc-centric (also a terf and swerf)
gncure (also believes it’s cringy to say sga is a problematic term and excludes ace, nb, and mspec people)
goblincourse (also terfy / believes in “biological sex” and that attraction works based on genitals, another of the “nonbinary people are basically binary”/”being attracted to nb people makes you straight” types, doesn’t believe biphobia is real, also antisemitic and racist, ableist, speaks over trans people despite being cis / mocks the concept of cis privilege)
godhatesthots
godkincourse
godtrashbaby (also believes “whatever aces think is wrong” and that therefore asexuality doesn’t exist)
goldenfleeced
golgothasdiscourse
golgothasterrorizing
gonegal
goodfrogboy
goodgoomy (also a truscum, derails posts about transmisogyny to make them about trans men and similar anti-sj behaviour)
goodsprings
gordita-chica
gorgeousanarchist
goth-kokona (also calls people homophobic for pointing out white and cis privilege, believes in reverse oppression, generally racist and transphobic)
gothgfs
gothhabiba / justsomeantifas / shitrichcollegekidssay (also biphobic, believes people in “straight relationships” have straight privilege regardless if they’re straight, says identities don’t matter but instead whether your relationship is gay, rape apologist, generally incredibly cisheteronormative and shitty)
gothicprep
gothpositivity
goths7
gravemomnito (also a biphobe who thinks bi positivity is anti-lesbian)
graysoncourse
grownfromseed
grumpyoldnurse (also a terf and biphobe who thinks bi people can’t reclaim “gay”)
gryffinewt / genderqueernewt / kewtgeiszler / newtaboo / hetshaming
gudroo / newtgeiszler
gumbo (also ableist; discounts people who are suicidal “for the wrong reasons”)
gurlukovich / frog-gf
h8keepers
hakyonalili (also finds the concept of cis privilege/transphobia “cringey”)
halemmerichdiscourse (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to kids / believes sex ed is pedophilic, suicide baits)
halflinq
halharl-infigar
hamiltrashhhhhhhh
harmalade
harvey1950 (also jokes about domestic abusers being ace)
has-h-u-r-s-u-y-shut-up-yet
hasyantsstopped (also excused suicide baiting)
hate2breakittoya
hatlesbian
hcneylesbian / cvkescene
healbeats / toybuns
heartlessdad (also believes aro/ace are “just modifiers” and not identities)
hedalluthor
heirloomparasite (also a terf)
hellagaypokemon (also “anti-bdsm” (and anti-porn?) / swerf undertones, also believes only strictly gay people can call themselves gay)
helldiscourse
hellgar-discourse
help-im-a-ghost (also believes it’s abusive not to have sex with your partner / rape apologist)
hes-gay
het-repulsion-zone
hetcisphobia
hetero-twink / gaytkeepers
heteroabhorrent
heteromantichomosexual / lesbiantagony (also misgenders people and ableist; accuses them of faking neurodivergence)
heterophobicaaron
heterophobicsamoyeds / heterophobisamoyeds / transgenderbabadook / sjw-dog / beavis-hates-your-kink / beavisagainstcgl / dogs-against-ddlg ([edit] for those asking)
hetphobia
hetpositive
hiddenheart51900
himatzu
hintele
hivliving (also lied about being a poc, intersex, trans, HIV+, a survivor, etc)
hoebutmadefashion
honeyproducer
homeosapphic (also believes aspec labels exist because of “porn culture” / swerfy)
homoelitism
homonormaty
homophobiatch
homosexual-jude (also a terf and biphobe that belives in “bihets” / that bi people have straight privilege)
homosexualgiratina
homosexualspock
honeycourse (also truscummy and ableist, believes neurogenders are “unhealthy” and you need to be critical of your mental illness)
honeypudding
honqice
hotsoccermom420
hotspicydiscourse / zaryadiscourse
housefreege / eirichel
howgayofme / ilovegirlsalways
howtoacediscourse
hpdmew
hpdshiver (also suicide baits)
hreshtak
hufflepqff / asokhas (also believes minors can’t be ace, calls aspec identities “special snowflake wannabe LGBT” identities / doesn’t believe in “lgbt aces”)
humanactsbyhankang
hxmoerotic (also lied about aspecs and mspecs corroborating on a homophobic post about locking up and nuking gay people, believes non-gays making fun of nonsensical/reactionary homophobes is homophobic and “making it all about bi/ace/trans/etc people”)
hyorin
icielaspots
ifyouregoing
ifyourestraightyourestraight
ignis-divine-eleison (also a terf)
iloveradfems (also a radfem and says queer isn’t an identity)
ilovewomen666 (also a harasser)
im-a-slut-for-doritos
imsotiredplease / chaoticfutch
imtransgender (also believes minors can’t be ace and that ace people just have internalized homophobia)
inatodomutual
inclusionist-culture
inclusionistscringe
indidyke / butch-pride
inferior-mirage
inkcourse
interim-url
intoyoump3 / popqueensdaily / dailygrande / arianagrandesource / forjennie / selenamariedaily / freshgomezrobynfentygifs / eunhoia
iridescent-lesbian
ironicdavestrider
ishopeatsea (also defends gaslighting that “isn’t too much")
itchy-astroterf / itchy-astroterf-official (also a radfem, believes boys can’t be raped, antisemitic/Nazi-sympathizer, probably a troll, etc)
itsbpdtime
itsdiscoursetime (also aligns with TERFs)
izru
izzy-pea (also a terf)
j0ules
jawas
jben073
jealousies (also suicide baits, hopes aces will die, claims aces can’t be raped for being ace)
jelly-discourse (also believes childless women are privileged, and that ace privilege exists)
jengahm (also truscum and anti-sj)
jeoji
jerseymisery
jewcourse (also believes queerphobia doesn’t exist)
jeweljessica
jewishes
jewishmagpie (also a pedophilia apologist, truscum/radfem, anti-sj/anti-feminist)
jewishmetalcrusher
jewishtracer
jewrezi
jinna2010
jokeboyfriend
jokedaddy
jokerakira
jomojaba
joy-divis00n (also a terf)
jugheadpissedinmycereal
junkerdva
junomacguff (also doesn’t even believe in “lgbt aces”, thinks you need to have sex to be gay, threatens suicide)
just-a-john-doe
justacetmblrthings (also mocks triggers/trigger warnings)
justasexythings (another one that misgenders nonbinary people via exorsexist nonsense, in the same fashion figuregayting has; that a cis bi guy attracted to women and nonbinary people is not LGBT+ because “dfab people are basically women” / “being attracted to nb people makes you straight”)
justtraumathings (also claims if you’re inclusionist and identify as queer you’re “stealing” it)
juzosuzuya / juuzousuzuya (also believes trans men experience misogyny and can use the b slur, which it does not believe is misogynistic or a slur)
ka-hri / homoarchy (also a terf)
kafkamilktea
kaminoo
kanocourse (also makes rape jokes)
katsgf / oceansunfire
katsukidiscourse (also excused suicide baiting)
katwomen777
kaqepro (also a biphobe)
kellyanneconway
kellymarietran
kickitlikeadidas
killbenedictcumberbatch / cowbopboybe / ghettoinuyasha
killcishets
killstiles (also compares being ace to being into anime body pillows)
killvmane (also suicide baits, hopes aces will die, sends threats)
killvrsmaim / diavolovevo / knownaphobe / depechemodemutual
kin-bot
kindergraph (also lied about a popular TME inclusionist coining “aerf” among other accusations to discredit “the inclusionist movement”)
kingofdiscourse
kinkshamingcowboy
kinksharne
kittensanddiscourse
kittydiscourse (also transphobic/truscum)
klezmo (also jokes about domestic abusers being ace)
kms69
knaives
knifepixie (also doesn’t believe aspecs of colour exist, despite beingwhite)
knifven (also uses the r slur, is anti-sj, mocks triggers)
kryptid
kujojolynes
kuunakullanvalkeana
kyimphobe
kylo-ren-hate-blog
kyuarad (also a radfem)
laguzstones
lamo-lesbian
lambgf / coolartcorner
lapidont / lapidoodles
lapithyst (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to children)
larscourse (also believes asexuality was “invented 20 years ago”)
latkek
laundrypods (also mocks sexual abuse triggers, sexually interacts with minors, is truscum, defends rape/incest porn and makes rape/incest jokes, and calls inclusionists fake / cishets)
lavabendingthot / redmagefag
lavenderpetal
lazykiddos
ldentlty
le0sbian
leafbian (also believes aces coming out are being appropriative)
leafduds
leftbians (also a sexual abuser)
legggberts
leiagrace
lemon-bunny (also defended discourseprincesa (see above) and protested her outing)
leo-the-mediocre-artist (also doesn’t believe erasure and invisibility count are oppressive/are aspects of oppression)
lesamis-laluneetastre
lesbian-artemis
lesbian-bill-potts
lesbian-catgirl
lesbian-death-trope / lesbian-ace
lesbian-ed / lesbian-ed-discourse (also a terf)
lesbian-lichen
lesbian-lizards (also a radfem)
lesbian-mimikyu
lesbian-noora (also a biphobe and mocks “”new”” identities)
lesbian-primarina
lesbianabstraction
lesbiananti
lesbianantigone (also a terf)
lesbiancarey
lesbiancarlyrae
lesbiandaydream
lesbiandnp
lesbianium-z
lesbianjadzia
lesbiankira
lesbianknuckles (also compares aces to furries)
lesbianloneliness
lesbianlunafreya
lesbianmadoka
lesbianmcgonagall
lesbianmikewheeler
lesbianonice
lesbianpoisonivy
lesbianpoodles
lesbianporg
lesbianprince
lesbianramens
lesbianratking / gamerfriend
lesbianrey
lesbianrukiakuchiki
lesbians-are-perfect / lesbians-are-perfect-discourse (also a terf)
lesbiansanddiscourse
lesbiansansastark
lesbiansdodiscourse
lesbianselenaquintanilla
lesbianstarbutterfly
lesbiantonysoprano (also a terf)
lesbianvelmadinkley
lesbijabi
lesbo
lesbolioness
lesbophobes (also a radfem/terf and swerf)
lesbophobish
lesbugs / bugslug / gastropods / transbug
lethargiclesbian
lettherebewhite
lettucegunbacontits
lezgem
lgbt-ace-safe-space
lgbt-mothra
lgbtcourse
lgbtfullstop (also believes “all men’s attraction to women is disgusting” because fuck bi/mspec people I guess)
lgbtkhaleesi (also believes asexuality isn’t real because “you can be given medicine to fix your sexual attraction”, and doesn’t believe that trying to medicate the asexuality out of people is conversion therapy, calls it “anti-recovery” to “indulge” asexuals and that all aphobia can be “fixed” by medicating aspecs)
lgbticup
lgbtqiaaplus
lgbtxmen / bedtime
lgunity (also a terf)
liberal-lesbophobia (also doesn’t even believe in “lgbt aces” and thinks you need to have sex to be gay)
libraofcolor (also believes aspecs “don’t know how consent works” and can’t consent to sex)
lightlydan
lightlydodie / lesbianaluthor
lightskinprivilege
lilycourse
limezeus
literaturelesbian
lizdexia
local-dunkass
localhorrorlesbian (also terfy, doesn’t believe trans men have male privilege and that trans men belong in women’s spaces / experience misogyny, against people warning others about users being terfs, gender abolitionist)
loldyke / catsgrant / niskaellster
lollipopfemme
lonelylittlegay
looktotheforce
lord-kitschener (also ableist; mocks incontinent people)
lorefriendlydeathgrips (also makes “moodboards” comparing aces to violent/fasicst politicians)
lornacrowley
lottiepersonn
lovelylinkle
lovethatdiscourse
lovingthediscourse
lowkeysalty
lowkey-radical (also a terf)
lunarsolareclipse
lupin-the-third
luxwing
lvl5 (also a rapist)
lycanlance
lycanrocite
lycanrocourse
lynzcourse
machipaku
mad-darling-and-naughty (also condones using “kweer” to mock “““mogai”““ identities)
madwimmin
maecourse
maggotmaster
maghreibisugar96
mai-waifu-critic
makeupho (also believes sex ed should not be taught to children and that people can’t know they’re ace until they’re teens)
makingstuffup
malibukandii
malirah
malviebertha
mandibuzzing
mangosuga
manslator
maractus
mariosodyssey
markwing-davey / ponderingduo
marmaladecourse
marsixm
martiancourse
mascgf / dyketw (also believes asexuality is a straight conspiracy to take over LGBT+ spaces)
maslna
matchsticksystem
maybediscourse
mazapanlesbian
mcdyke (also a radfem and biphobe)
mcflonalds
mczoinks
medicine / pure / infects (also truscummy / polices mspec and nonbinary identities, posted this hot garbage)
medscape
meetmlm / l5j / mlmducks
megaswordgay
melativa / allohoe
meltymermaiid (also pulls that “nonbinary people are basically binary” / “being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit)
memesrightsactivia / antiwhitepropaganda
memeufacturing (also a sexual abuser)
mermaidradfem (also a terf and claims people can’t identify as queer / queer isn’t an identity)
metacourse
metalcourse (also truscummy and ableist, polices and mocks neurogender and nonbinary identities, makes fun of autistic people)
mgsotacon
mi0da
miamitxt
michfest / criticsrave
millennialsfabwlw
mimikq / candyaxe (also harasses people, makes fake blogs to frame the people they harass, steals photos and pictures, calls people slurs, etc)
mindthecactuses (also a sexual harasser)
minionsagainstaphobia
minnesotafatspoollegend
miphazel
missfame
mlma0
mlmarchive
moe-amethyst (also sends threats)
mogai-flags-for-us (also a truscum)
mogai-is-bogai
mogai-watch (also truscum, ableist, anti-sj)
mogaifreediscord
moirarty
monchevi
monoalloprivilege
monocultureshock
moon-boob
mooncryptid (also believes it’s homophobic that cis people can’t remark on transphobia and believes Ace Tumblr “made up the cishet is a trans word discourse”)
moonlandingwasfaked
moonlit-ghost / lunagetofftheinternet
moonqueenallura / radiantsuns
monsterlovinglesbian
more-fandom-backpacks (also anti-pan)
morganlebae (also a terf and calls ace inclusion “peak trans”)
morphodyke
mothbian
mothboy-official (also makes police brutality jokes, intentionally gaslights survivors and calls them pathetic for posting positivity/reassurance for survivors)
moxdilithium
musclev (also a terf)
mybigfatgaylife (also believes nobody has ever called for the death of aces while the ace community “cheers the death of lgbtpn people”, excuses suicide baiting)
mycolorfulfirecollectionblr (also sends child porn to inclusionists)
mycroft-holmes-lestrade (also is a terf, claims being aspec is “narcissism”)
myhonesthots (also calls asexuality a disease to be “cured” through murder)
mykz
mypolitics (also believes in misandry)
naeril
narcisupial
nastymasc (also supports sobercommunist (see below))
natcritiquescartoons
naturalselectionrabbit (also a nazi, transphobe, and homophobe (what are they even doing in the discourse…))
navigorl
nblesbians
nbsupport
neatoburritolesbian
necrodyke (also a terf and biphobe who thinks bi people can’t reclaim “gay”)
negativeprotons
nemoinvenit
nentindo (also makes fun of “““new”““ identities / truscum vibe, anti-sj; made a post about how making characters “ugly” (read: trans, jewish, poc, etc) isn’t progressive)
neverosbornn (also jokes about supporting trump if he were an aphobe)
neyruto
nightcrier
nightwingagainstcishets
nihilistgirlfriend
nikittypaprika
ninjaplayboy
nixie-kenz (also says queer isn’t an identity / people can’t identify as queer)
nixystix / reynaisalesbian / lesbabeths
nomorecishets
nonamediscourse
nonbinarysapphic
nondescriptperson234234123423
noodle
norbury
not-just-another-fake-lesbian (also a terf)
notyouraverageallo (also ableist)
noxiousb
nudne
nuggetemily (also suicide bats, tells aces to die)
obamascummies
occhio-listic
oceanlesbian (also a terf)
odinsnotebook (also mocks identities/truscum vibe, and claims to “like offending people”)
odlaws / huckleberryhound (also jokes about domestic abusers being ace)
officiainasa
officialaphobe (also aligns with TERFs)
officialdownwithcis
officialearthbound (also anti sj)
officialember / plushember (also makes jokes about racists and violent bigots such as Donald Trump being ace)
officialgothgf
oleanderwasp (also truscum and anti-sj)
olimars
onioncourse (also mocks csa/rape survivors)
opal-koboi
opisaterf (also a radfem and biphobe)
optais-amme
optimistic-/-lesbian / miiind-palace (remove / in first username to block)
ovari3s
p1anetma1ik
p1hdremake
p3em (also said rape victims talking about their rape were “annoying”)
p7lots (also claims aces can’t be raped for being ace)
pacificrim / chiyoh / bugsweat / lovereplica / globaloffensive / webuycrystals / dirtbagleft / eyelander
pan-allosaurus
pancakecourse
pandulcecourse
pansexualkiba (also believes ace people just have internalized homophobia)
pansy69
paperandinklings
paramoregay / vrisrezilesbian
part4fag
pastel-aesthetic-girl
pastimperfection (also defends sobercommunist, see below)
peach-eatr (also a terf and biphobe)
peachesandcremated
peachyaphobe (also supports sobercommunist (see below))
pearlitariat
peelsavocadosinthedark
peppermint-dyke
perchance-to-scream
pericourse
perpetualperseveration
peroxider (also believes it’s not transphobic to refuse to date trans people, says only people who have transitioned have a say on trans issues / truscum vibe)
pesterchum (also evades blocks, harasses, calls inclusionists the b slur and r slur)
pettydavis
pettyqueer
phensuximide
phobe
pieandhotdogs
pikminlesbian
pineappleisdelicious
pissedofflesbian / pissedofflesbian-archive
pisshets
pitoudiscourses
pixshi / zaryanovas-wife / team-lesbians (also a biphobe who thinks bi people can’t reclaim “gay”)
pizzaback
plantcourse
plntboy
pochowek
poetic-nerd
poetrylesbian
polarum
ponygem
popgothica
poprockslesbian
porygons / charmanderriere (also believes nobody should use the word queer, ever)
possumkingdom
powerarmor / conceptgay
precioustranswoman (also believes aspecs “don’t know how consent works” and can’t consent to sex)
presidentgay
prettyinpieces (also truscum, supports sobercommunist (see below)) believes in “bihets” - warning: blog is full of violent gore of women)
pridefulcolors (may believe aces are lgbt but they are still aphobic as well as a terf/swerf and truscum)
prince-lindworm (also believes tumblr invented transphobia and biphobia)
prissygrrrl
pro-gay
proncus (also supports violence, conversion therapy, etc against aspecs)
protectlgbtkids (also makes fun of ““new”“ identites / truscum vibe, also pulls that exorsexist “afab people are basically women”/”being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit previously mentioned)
prosecutorvonkarma
protectron-gay
psa-callout (also makes jokes about bigots being ace)
pukebong
punch-your-local-ghost
punkashido
punkphobia
punkys / gayndam
punlich (”anti-mogai” in general, not specifically aphobic)
puppyborzoi
pussifoot
pussy-lemonade (also terfy/transphobic)
puto-papi / aljofares
pyonkotchi
qalleo
qslur
queerlisasimpson
queertechniques
quiet-queer-qool-qollected
r-az / r-az-remade
r0rschach
rabbt
radfem-gossip (also a terf)
radfem-gunch (also a terf)
radfemtori (also a terf)
radfemwonderwoman (also a terf)
radical-sloth (also a terf)
radicallylesbian (also a terf)
radicurious (also a terf and swerf)
rainbowcishets (also states they hate “people who use a term that causes nothing but harm and confusion” referring to asexuality)
rat-dad
ratcourse
rated-r-for-grantaire (also believes aspecs “bullied” LGBT+ organizations into accepting aspecs, and that children shouldn’t be taught sex ed)
raychus
rayisgey / toplovingtop
raymolk
realtransalien (also truscum)
redkatherineee / ileftbecauseeveryonehatesme
redkrypto (also anti-pan)
redrosepetalclub
redscout
redtubeyou / lordsaytenn / jonjafarifanclub / lord-saytenn
regein
reggies
reghatred
reindeer-ritsu
relishboi (also makes jokes about how disgusting people/bigots are ace)
repetitivediscourse
reputationlesbian
revolutionarygays (also mocks “"new”“ identities / truscum vibe, uses anti-sj buzzwords like "identity politics” and compares aspec/“"new”“ identities to pedophilia)
rheterophobia
rhythmstance
riggityriggityradfem (also a terf)
rinlesbian
rogersmithcourse
roguejedis
roketshipper
romansilver
room93
rootfauna / radfauna (also a radfem; terf and swerf)
rootfem (also a terf)
romanshiver
rose-quartz-discourse
rosediscourse
rosejorts / billnihilism
roseusvespertilio
roseylippedangel
roswater (also suicide baits)
rqdnqc
rubyfruitjumble / glowcloud / popularlesbian / sugahigh / thevengabus / jellypack / sugarsope / bangtanbis / yujuchingu (also transphobic/anti-nonbinary, biphobic, racist, reblogs child porn, mocks sexual abuse victims, etc etc)
rudebeads
rudedere / transfrogs
rudelittlegnome / devilscandies (also uses "kweer”/queer as an insult and calls people who use it “cishet”, and generally calls people cishet as a punishment)
rugelachs / bimahbabe
ryeichel
s-squishysquibbles
s8yrboy
sadchiquitabanana / luxlo (the one who made this post about how asexuals need examined before they can identify as ace and that the “ace community” is too validating and is encouraging people to stay sick)
saddesthime (also says queer isn’t an identity)
sailorsagainstterfs
sameenaf
sangriagloss
sapphic-/-dragon (remove slash to block; tumblr autoformats it to a long dash)
sapphic-cake-baker
sapphic-matriarchy (also a terf)
sapphic-userboxes
sapphicmercutio (also pulls that “nonbinary people are basically binary” shit / “being attracted to nb people makes you straight” shit, compares asexuality to kinks)
sapphics
sapphicscience
sapphicworm (also believes The Ace Community TM pressures minors to identify as ace)
sapphoe
sardonyxs
sassysassan (also believes romance repulsion / aromanticism is inherently homophobic)
scaredpotter
schrodingers-shitpost
scoobydiscourse
scottvasquez
scuzer
seaguanaisland
sebastiansmash
sectoniadx
seinfeldbassline
self-hating-ace
selkieradfem (also a terf)
semitics (also participates in “cringe culture”)
sensitivefae
sespursongles (also a terf that believes bi/ace/trans people collectively conspire against lesbians and make all lgbt+ spaces unsafe)
sethhbastian
sexhaver
sexhavers
sgaprivilege
sgatheist (also a terf)
shamelesslyunladylike (also a terf)
shaolinfantastics
shawty-shes-trouble
sheabutterbitch
shellomen
shit-attraction-model
shitboy96
shittyacebehaviors
shittylesbiandiscourser (also mocks triggers and suicidal people)
shock / jindosh (also believes The Ace Community TM manipulates/forces people to identify as ace)
shoobie-doowop
shslgamer
shut-up-genderists (also a terf)
sickofwhinybisexuals (also a terf, biphobic)
sierraseybold / unclefather
sikander-sg (also a terf, biphobe / compares mspec identities to pedophilia and incest, racist)
silbrig-guelden (also believes aspec labels exist because of “porn culture” / swerfy)
silverhawk
simirrors / chickenbutch
sinbadism
singmethetrees (also believes sapphic is a lesbian-only words)
siptheyikes
sisterbloomers
sithgay / gayestrey / dagobahlesbian
sjw-pit-bull / boba-fettucini / gay-pit-bull / gaypitbull (also supportsgoblincourse (see above) and acts as an attack dog for him)
sjwpanderer
sjwpug / strawberrycola / strawberryartblog / strawberryteardrop / strawberriesandcreaming / strawberrybloodbath / soberrywitchy
sjwsingles
sjwricksanchez
skullcourse
slashs-head-is-fuzzy
sleaves
sleepdontvisit / rebelbaze / tiredofcishets / tiredofcishetsblockingme / asexualmeansnosex (also makes new blogs to circumvent blocks and harass people, also calls rape victims liars about their rape / about being raped because of their aceness; rape apologist, believes there’s a conspiracy of turning LGBT+ people ace through conversion therapy / believes asexuality is a conspiracy against LGBT+ people, believes The Ace Community TM manipulates/forces people to identify as ace, insists bisexuals have to be equally attracted to all genders, speaks over poc and feels entitled to “call out [their] racism” as a white woman, doesn’t think asexuality is an identity but rather a symptom)
sleepingpowder
sleepyaphobe
sleepyflannel (also a harasser, mocks triggers, mocks otherkin)
slimecourse (also doesn’t believe in biphobia, believes aces coming out is appropriation, and makes jokes about bigots being ace)
slimez (also mocks ““new”“ identities / truscum, biphobe vibes)
slurhater / ashleyetc
smashbike
smol-acey-prince
snakegay / tretijreznor / tretijrebeglock
snerf (also suicide baits, tells aces to die)
sniffing
snowflake-collections (also anti-sj and truscummy)
snubbulldyke (also a terf; shits on nonbinary people who don’t perform androgyny well enough, accuses them of abusing gender power structures)
snufk1n
sobercommunist / pissedpoz / more-like-assical-major (also truscum / anti-nonbinary / transphobic, believes bi people in “hetero relationships” should stay out of the community; believes in “bihets”, anti-sj, uses side blogs to get around blocks, and more)
socialistexan
socialistgay
socialjusticar
soft-gay-mac
softaphobeaesthetic
softboy4softboy
softtrains
soih / aohkii
sojournerlies / wargaymon (also believes trying to medically treat asexuals is fine, that asexuality is “a symptom of illness”, also transphobic, harasses and stalks trans people, calling them liars, misgendering them, makes fun of trans people in need, etc, also threatens people who say they’ve been medically discriminated against)
solongi (also tells rape victims that they weren’t actually raped/abused for being ace; gaslights)
soloontherocks
someuphillbattle
sonicforaphobejustice
sonicnotdiscourse
sophiaring
sorryaboutyourmom (also believes asexuality is a straight conspiracy to take over LGBT+ spaces, and is a harasser/violates people’s boundaries)
sotfbutch
sourpunchgay (also believes in straight passing privilege and mocks identities / truscum vibe, makes police brutality jokes, believes terf is a meaningless word, is “anti anti”)
soveryradical
spacedijks
spacephobe
spatialapprentice
special-snowflake-burner (also suicide baits, anti-sj)
spectralcommunism
spencer-shay-against-gender (also a terf)
spengs
spiderblock (also tells ace survivors their abuse didn’t happen / wasn’t because they were ace)
spidew
spltnpearl / 86bit (proclaimed inclusionists had made a reddit to trash trans boys, was found out wrong, but never edited or deleted the original post with this information)
spookyknuckles
spookkypotato
spookyterf (also a terf)
spynda
spyrothediscourse (also believes it’s homophobic that cis people can’t remark on transphobia and believes Ace Tumblr “made up the cishet is a trans word discourse”)
squishable-amethyst (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to children)
ssscumbaggg
star-aphobe
star-wars-discousre
starbutch / captain-pride / lesbiantasha
stardustmutual
starlight-lilith / slimeblogging (also believes the existence of aces contributes to sexualizing other lgbt+ people)
starlinglesbian
starpunchy
starrydiscourse
starrymiilk
starwarsheterophobe (also believes identifying as queer is homophobic and that only mlm and trans women can identify as queer)
starwarsisgay
steelcourse (also a rape apologist)
stickerpet (also a terf)
stimcourse / stimcourse
straightallies
straightboyfriend
straightpeoplereceipts
straightpropaganda
strawberriglitter
suctioned / aesphyxias (also believes the pressure on women/DFAB people to reproduce isn’t oppressive)
sugarsweetdiscourse
sunfloro
sunnyharley
superjotx
superluminalflower
surprisebitch
surrealjock
suspiciouslyterfy
swarnpert (also transphobic and still truscummy/terfy, believes trans men aren’t male / trans women aren’t female, against neopronouns, etc)
sweaterfemme
sweet-fiber-flips
switchbladenight (also truscum, doesn’t believe intersex, nonbinary, agender, pan, ply, etc people are lgbt)
sybilreisz
sylveon-the-discourser
sylveonstim
synovya (also biphobic)
synth-bop
taakofromtv (also believes bullying is necessary for society)
tackylesbians
tackytaako
takealookatyourlife
takethatzine
takoyuki
taktz
talkgentlytome (since they have some ace positive posts, their most recent ace-related post is this, about how acephobia / ace oppression aren’t real and ace abuse/rape victims don’t exist)
tankgirlongirl
taranoire (also a terf)
targuzzler (also transphobic/transmisogynistic)
tasty-bitch-nugget-666 (also believes queerphobia doesn’t exist)
taxloopholes / comcastkills (also keeps making jokes about violent bigots being ace, such as ronald reagan / makes jokes about the AIDS crisis, also ableist) ([edit] for those asking: supporting/joking with sourpunchgay, mocking incontinence, supporting a dfab aphobe saying ableism and terf are meaningless words now,comparing aspecs to “sapiosexuals” and mocking qprs, one / two / three)
tchaikovsgay
teacourse (also biphobic)
teadiscourse
teamnowalls
teddyisabear (also mocks aces for feeling broken, being outcasted, being erased, etc)
tellingasexualstoshutup
terezbian
terfmeanslesbian (also a terf)
terfs-are-dumb
thataphobiclesbian
thatchaoticgoodcishetace
thatdirtyallogay (also biphobic, against ““new”“ identities / terfy and truscummy vibes, believes minors can’t be ace, ableist / calls inclusionists “retards and retard-adjacent”)
the-a-stands-for-aphrodite
the-ace-community (also believes excluding twerfs is lesbophobic, is antisemitic, and unsurprisingly complains that it’s homophobic to say cis people can’t use cishets pejoratively)
the-acecourse (also makes jokes about violent bigots being ace, such as ronald reagan / makes jokes about the AIDS crisis)
the-eagle-atarian / steven-universe-official / puublack / oshama-scramble / girlcock-delivery-service (also anti sj, pedophilia apologist, transphobe, etc)
the-evil-allo (also a radfem and says queer isn’t an identity / people can’t identify as queer; claims you “shouldn’t be identifying as queer without consequence”, believes the Ace Community TM “lies” about asexuality being pathologized)
the-evil-lesbian (also a radfem)
the-laughing-mans-ghost (also believes aces are actually “just ugly and weird”)
theanti90smovement (also thinks trans men experience misogyny)
theburningrosebush
thediscourseblogs (also believes bisexual is binary and thus “problematic”)
thedlscourse
thedykecourse (also believes it’s homophobic for cis people to not have a say in transphobia, and says “the Q has never been for queer”)
theeirini
thefslur / moon37
thegaycousin
thehomosexuals
thehowlingwolf (also a terf)
thelastjediscourse
themisterscrubb
theonetruestrideertheretrowitch
theredspeedos (also terfy, believes in biological sex and defines bi/pansexuality as “attraction to both sexes”)
thesallowbeldam
thestateonmtv
theversatilist (also a terf)
thevriscourse
thewordvalid (also terfy)
thingsthatmakeyouacey
thotsiclepopsicle (also a harasser/violates people’s boundaries)
threed
thug
thuliym
timediva (also terfy/transphobic)
timelostprotodyke
tinyaibou
tinybeeholmes
tinytiel
tiqerboy / gaytigers
tired-sapphic
tiredagender
tockthewatchdog
toebisexualthings
toggenburg
tokicourse (also compares being ace to being a furry/having a kink)
tolmie
tomcats-and-tophats
tordcourse
totallyradicalblog (also a terf)
totallyrealacefacts
toxic-spill
tppelin (also suicide baits)
traingirls-vs-trigglypuffs (also anti-sj/anti-feminist, and likely a troll)
tranarchist
trans-chandra
trans-gay
transamazon
transbiring
transcourse
transdadlovesyou
transdiscourse
transfemale
transgambit
transgay-discourse (also says queer isn’t an identity / people can’t identify as queer)
transgirlcyberpunk
transgirlnausicaa (also mocks platonic relationships)
transkagamines / newleafwiki (also accuses “mogai tumblr” of calling hypersexuality an orientation)
transmagnusbane (also believes minors can’t be ace because “being ace is about not having sex and minors shouldn’t have sex anyway”)
transmascorpio
transmanroadhog
transmothwoman
transsexual-privilege / dysphoria-privilege (also anti sj, truscum, and a pedo apologist)
transsexuallesbian
transterezi
traumatizedofficial / whitesaviorcomplex / bismuthspartnerincrime / beckysspaceship / darkskinnedprivilege (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to kids and pushes that asexuality is “all about sex” and therefore tmi and inappropriate to teach about)
trickstarbrave
tricourse (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to kids / believes sex ed is pedophilic)
triggerwarned (also anti-sj, truscum, and believes nobody who identifies as queer has ever had to deal with anti-LGBT bigotry)
tronsboi (also truscum)
tropicalfucko
trubutt (also doesn’t believe in pansexuality)
truejew
truemonarchofthesewalls / paledreamsblackmoths
truscumzebstrika (also truscum, doesn’t believe in nonbinary genders, and that intersex people don’t belong and that being intersex is a birth defect)
turbo-virgins (also a harasser, violates people’s boundaries, believes medical professionals / psych professionals should not be required to be informed about asexuality, believes LGBT suicide hotlines shouldn’t help aspecs)
tvtropesofficial (also mocks triggers/trigger warnings, defends nsfw in ace tags/sexual harassment)
twerkcircus (also ableist)
twink-phobia / f-ag
twinkcourse (also believes ace headcanons are inherently desexualizing)
twinkdanielmolloy
twinkle4twinklelittlestar / twinkle5twinklelittlestar (also says queer isn’t an identity / people can’t identify as queer, says “actual LGBT people don’t want to be called queer”, and that “MOGAI is made up of cishets in denial” / calls LGBT+ people “cishets in denial”, compares ace pride to pedo pride, compares aces to nazis)
twinkspock / autistickeith
umbreondiscourse
unambiguouslybi (also believes people need to “think twice” before identifying as ace)
unfaggy
unfriendly
unicornichor
unrelatableuserboxes / torracat / lesbianlion / liepard (edit: since people keep asking)
unvirginity
uranusanti
urie
urstraight
uterusbear (also a terf)
v3n
valteuil
valucard
vapordiscourse
vaporwavesimulator
vaporweird
vayward-wagabond (also makes “ronald reagan was ace” jokes / AIDS jokes)
veganscully
velmacourse / angryspacelesbian (also truscummy, mocks neurogender nonbinary identities)
velmasgay (also sends suicide bait)
verarubin (also a terf)
veryhappyturtle
ves-rx
violetdiscourse (also aligns with TERFs)
violetsandflannels
violetsbian
virizioncourse / virizioncourse2 (also mocks suicidal people and intentionally triggers them, calls inclusionists b and r slurs, generally ableist)
viva-la-revoluchien
voguebrazil / nekuminaj / coldderosa / floralfallalyuna (also believes the Ace Community TM “lies” about asexuality being pathologized)
voidfort / voidfort-has-moved
voidiscourse
voltrons-eyebrows
vongoladodicesimo (also tells abuse victims their abuse didn’t happen)
vorecourse
vriskamutual / minionkinpositivity
wakeupthewublins
weepingbabe (also terfy/transphobic)
weirdgoth
were-wolfcourse
weredyke
wereralph / furry-traphouse / bulph-drew-this
werewolfkin / profdx
werewolfsingles
wetfag
wev
whalesharks
what-the-belle-is-this
whatingodsnameisupwithyou (also a terf, a prolifer, and believes hypersexual aces don’t exist)
whenfandomsfly
whomst
widowgaycer
wildewomyn
wikdsushi
windows-98
witch-course
witch-with-a-dick
witchlaced (also believes sexual activity and sexual attraction are synonymous; that aces can’t enjoy sex nor experience orgasm or they aren’t ace, and other mildly rape apologistic shit)
witchydiscourse (also believes it’s abusive not to have sex with your partner / rape apologist, and claims nobody has ever called for the death of aces while the ace community “cheers the death of lgbtpn people”, excuses suicide baiting)
wlw-teens
wlwromance
woemen (also excuses agreeing with TERFs)
woman-aligned
womz
wonderlandroundtwo
wondie
wordsdontreal
wtfantisjws / alwayscorrectinjustice
xavimigo (also tells aces to go die)
xclusionist (also calls LGBT+ people “cishets” as a punishment)
xelamanrique318
xirlfriend
xoyourstruly
xstntlsthmtc
xx-c0mat0se-xx (also suicide baits)
yaddle
yaintlgbtpn (also transphobic / truscum undertones)
yall-aphobes-need-to-stop (url was formerly an inclusionist but was taken)
yeeeboiiiiiiiihelp
yellow-discourse
yikescourse
yolandasgf / maialesbian
you-arent-queer (also tells aspecs that abuse they experienced didn’t happen, makes fun of aspecs talking about their abuse)
youarentlgbt (also calls inclusionists “cishet” as a punishment regardless of their identity)
youcanthurtmetheseshadesaregucci (also accuses people of faking mental illness)
your-homophobia-is-showing (also mocks “"new”“ identities / neurogenders, ableist truscum vibe)
youre-all-dead-to-me (also anti-sj and believes misandry is real)
yourgenderdoesntdefineyou (also truscum, doesn’t believe nonbinary and aspec identities are real)
yourstoxically
yupppppppppp (also says queer isn’t an identity)
zachenrylloyd
zacstac
zampl
zarpharah (also terfy/transphobic)
zerobullshitallowed (also truscum)
zolnks (also believes being attracted to nonbinary genders makes you straight; believes that "nonbinary people are basically binary” crap, also unsurprisingly believes terf is a meaningless word, despite being afab/transmisogyny-exempt, believes agender people can’t call themselves nonbinary)
[edit3] removing mentions because I don’t want my friends sent the same shit I was, esp considering their ages and triggers[edit] “But they’re asexual!” Yeah turns out you can be aspec and aphobic, like how there are women who are misogynistic, and most truscum are trans people. [edit2] “Add me to the list!” sure okay whatever, here’s everyone who wanted added
fun fact: MOST these people have misgendered me, misidentified me (calling me cishet, cis, aspec, etc), called me slurs, sent me suicide bait, sexually harassed me and made sexual remarks to me to intimidate me, trigger me, or as a “joke”, and used alternate accounts to dodge my blocks and continue to send me these things.
another fun fact: ALL of these people were very eager to be included on a list full of nasty people, including abusers, radfems, truscum, sexual abusers….
adhdyosuke
alwaysadolphin
angelkittykin
annanwaters
aphobicserenmori
archeangel
asexual-discoursing
autisticalistair
beahatemail
bethma
brutallus
buscobeast
carneguisada
clemyntine
cosmog
crazyress
cryptidq
cuddlingcassandra
cxpreolus
deathwiing
discourse-allosaurus
discoursecrow
discoursespider
distomolar
edgiegluskin
egowave
elfiuun
elliexer
extraterrestrial
ezlaiy
fairychain
femmephobiaofficial / nblesbiankurapika
femminiello
fentonthermos
filthyfrank
firstgrades
friendlycoolguy
fruitspop
fuggles
fureshiki
ghostadventuresvevo
gothbf
gravitysfake
grecianangel
guzboi
heavylovemail
hellcore
hgnzo
himeshirayuki
hopekit
ilybug
infinitetsukiyomi
jacamofinane
jarritos
jayfr0g
jayswing
jnxi
jouikids
kavinsky
kutales
lesbiancordelia
lesbianliadrin
lesbiansilvally
lesblion
lollipopfactory
lonlibra
makingfiends
memenyoomcle
miamipolice05
miiyashitaai
morosexual
mostlyv01d
nastyallogay
nbgirlisdon
nefepants
no3113
nugglet
oddbitch
opisaheterophobe / uwucourse
pastarrie
pinev
pinol
pussypoppinlikepopcorn
qolnareff
redleader
rob1n
rockdownu
rxquiescat / op-is-a-lesbian
servings
seleas
seraphicarte
setaokaiba
shintarx
shutthefuckup
siptheyikeonthat
sissons
spiciey
startling
stpedrogluestick
strangeauthor
stravvberry
suckfrog
tal-eire
taylas
the-fucking-lizard-king
tigerphobia
toxicsludge
trembled
turntechgeneticist
tweekbroscoffee
ultimatetaurus
undoaction
werewolf-boyfriend
wikileaks
wildaxes
wrymstym
xenegg
xmenblueandgold
z-city
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Tagged by @nattikay and since this is a get to know me post imma swear aight
Name: Bernie (im only 1 sander at most tho)
Star sign: Pisces
Height: 4′10″ pls help w top shelf
Middle name: Abila
Put your music on shuffle. What are the first four songs? uhhHHHH ALL OF IT? Sheeeit, give me a moment. I’ll do what’s on Spotify at least. Watch these all be feel good acoustic romance songs because of my love square playlists lmao
Kiana Luna - What We Love (see? lol)
Sam Cooke - Lonely Island (YEAH play it Sam)
Queen - It’s A Hard Life, Live in Rio 1985 (Freddie... ; ~;7)
Jeremy Passion - Lemonade (extremely love square :3c)
Grab the book closest to you and turn to page 23. What’s line 17? The actual nearest is a textbook and it’s just ‘Release).’ lmao
Nearest novel: ‘“There is no saying, indeed!” replied Harriet rather sol-’
Have you ever had a poem or song written about you? Not that I know of.
When was the last time you played air guitar? I’m not sure I ever have? That’s not... that’s never been an actual thing with me or anyone I know, metalheads included.
Who’s your celebrity crush? I don’t pay attention to celebrities, so I don’t have one. I’ve never gotten crushes anyway, squishes at most. Hmm... I’m p sure I’m not aro. You’ve seen this blog, right? I am extremely ro. I’m so fucking ro I could row a boat violently up the stream, but I guess I have to know a person first. I don’t trust like that. ಠ_ಠ
What’s a sound you hate+a sound you love? OH BOI Y’ALL ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD.
The only specific sound I hate is my tinnitus, cause it gets in the way of other sounds. In this house, we love and appreciate our auditory environment.
I don’t want to make my 'a sound I love’ answer purring cause that seems too obvious, but I gotta mention it. I love my dumb trash boy too much and hearing all his garbage rumbling.
REAL ANSWER This is why I chose to link that video of Lonely Island: the crackles, pops, and little skips on old records. I... I harbour so much resentment against hipsters for making it ‘ironic.’ I’m real sentimental (IDK IF YOU’VE NOTICED) and they’re creating a barrier for true appreciation of something that’s really fucking cool.
See, what analog audio is to me is a physical record of music displaced in time, and you know, you hear that time displacement through what happened to the record or cassette or whatever in the interim. It’s inextricable from the music itself. The physical medium is record of both the music it contains and the damage it’s taken. Whether that detracts from the music or adds to it is up to the listener, but the music is still there and it’s still beautiful.
You get a damaged flac file, something went wrong in milliseconds of encoding/decoding, and it’s probably completely fucked. Cacophonous. I love the digitalization of music, but whether it’s reached you intact is 0 or 1.
You get a (not too) damaged record, it’s things like the scratch from a particle of dust in someone’s home 50 years and 5000 kilometers away. How goddamn wild is that? That tiny scratch, the crackle it makes, is a connection between you and someone you’ll never know—hell, they’re probably dead— but you’re listening to music you both like from the exact same source. It’s gotten a little fucked up along the way but it still, if you let it, delivers the performance of more than a lifetime. (I have this whole thing on how sound is like physical touch transmitted but I’ve subjected you to enough here lmao)
Do you believe in ghosts? Only in that there’s a non-zero possibility for anything.
What about aliens? As much as I can without actual proof. The cosmos is just too big.
Do you drive? No, but I’m intending to learn.
If so, have you ever crashed?
What was the last book you read? How to use Hand and Power Tools by George Daniels. (Popular Science book from 1968, has info on older tools and techniques which aren’t covered anymore.)
Do you tend to hold grudges against people who do you wrong? No. That would be giving them free estate in my head and they don’t deserve that.
In a relationship? Nah, I don’t get out in any way that would let me meet someone so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ One day. One day I’ll meet the Ladybug to my Chat Noir and they will have to live with my inappropriately timed jokes.
QUESTIONS 4 U (but only if u want 2 ok) @my-name-is-tom-dupain @lawbreaker13 @miracu-less @ladyblargh @buggachat
#kdsjfkgjsfff I went off on fucked up record noises so much#BLAME NATTI#(rad dabs btw)#LONG POST#you and boo#boo speaks#swearing#not ml
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here’s a list of popular/common users who are aphobes so those of us who don’t want to platform them can avoid them
or in other words, I see these guys casually on posts a lot and want you all who are reblogging them to know they are aphobes (and some of them have done worse yet, such as abuse, rape apologism, transphobia, being anti sj, racism, etc)
tw for: ableism, abuse, abuse apologism, biphobia, body shaming, child sexual abuse, cissexism, conversion therapy, death/violent threats, fatphobia, gaslighting, homophobia, intersexism, lesbophobia, misgendering, pedo apologism, pedophilia, queerphobia, racism, radfems/terfs/swerfs, rape, rape apologism, sex shaming, sexism, sexual abuse, sexual harassment, suicide baiting, transphobia, truscum, whorephobia
edit Last updated: 12/11/2017
[edit] fun fact: I am trans and queer!! thanks for the misgendering, misidentifying, threats, constant use of misogynistic slurs, and suicide bait!
(will exclusionists ever stop misgendering inclusionists and calling them the b-slur? the world may never know)
[edit] Honestly this has now become just a general list of aphobes for people to block, not necessarily specifically of people I “see a lot” that people don’t know about. So with that in mind, here’s an extension that lets you block a list of people at once. (edit: link fixed, sorry!) Unfortunately, it’s only for Google Chrome and I’m not sure if there are other versions out there for other browsers.
[edit] Latest additions, so people can keep track of updates: cadaverjones, captainfunkpunkandroll, captainprism, chainsawpunk, cherryseltzer, chloepricekin, chunke, cisphobepapyrus, clara-the-slytherin-graduate, clarith, clusterc, commanderlotus, commuwuism, confused-alien-on-earth, constowllation, corrgii, courtneyhammett, cozybears, crash-bandisloot, crawlybug, crunchydude, cuckmobile, cybernetyx, cyberni, depechemodemutual, peppermint-dyke, reindeer-ritsu, romansilver, wikdsushi
[edit] Other block lists to take note of: Pedo apologist list and list of other shitty inclusionists, list of anti-sj, anti-feminists, terfs, truscum, and their apologists
[edit] Previous versions of this list. Keep in mind these may contain users that have been removed.
[edit4] Aphobic as in,
don’t believe aro/aces are LGBT+,
don’t think aphobia is real, don’t think ace/aro pride is needed and/or that it is homophobic, don’t think aro/ace issues should be discussed,
think asexuality and aromanticism aren’t real, are “just modifiers”, are “just internalized homophobia”, and/or are fake “special snowflake” identities,
or worse, that aspecs need to be medically/psychologically examined - that being aspec is or is a symptom of a medical disorder or mental illness,
think asexuality just means someone doesn’t like or have sex,
don’t think we should educate about asexuality,
think minors can’t be aspec,
think the A is for “ally” which is particularly ironic while arguing aces don’t belong because they’re “cishet invaders”
think asexuality and/or aromanticism is pedophilia, homophobic, inherently abusive, or nsfw, etc
believe having sex without attraction is bad, mentally ill, abusive, rape, etc (just in general a lot of sex-shaming shit that often pulls in whorephobia), or even think aspecs can’t or shouldn’t date
often don’t even think you can be gay/etc and ace, and make sweeping statements against asexuality in general, so “lgbt aces” is a bunch of lying shit
make and support numerous lies regarding the discourse, such as that MOGAI was “coined by a pedophile” or that aspec was “stolen from autistics”
And most of them are biphobic, such as believing biphobia doesn’t exist, using phrases like “bihet”, and hating on “”””new”””” or “”””fake”””” identities in general, which means many are truscum/anti-nonbinary/exorsexist as well (fun fact: truscum came up with this “the mogais” shit btw), and most of them believing in “straight/cis passing” privilege
And tend to have a habit of shitting on people who identify as queer, or even imply or directly say nobody is allowed to ID as queer, as well as a habit of intersexism on top of that. Many also think it’s inherently homophobic to be triggered or uncomfortable by general pda and related content, including sexually explicit content (there’s generally a lot of anti-survivor and anti-sex repulsed bs).
Annnnd a lot of the cis here keep using “cishet” which is not their fucking word to use! because they have cis privilege! they are not oppressed by cis people! And a lot of them speak over trans people or outright try to educate us about what is “really” transphobic in the discourse. And the amount of misgendering is extreme, if the above big and bold part didn’t indicate that well enough.
Just look at my damned discourse tag ffs.
That being said of course if you see someone on here who is additionally abusive, an assailant, a radfem/truscum, etc, feel free to mention it. Blogs like @regreceipts and @aphobehallofshame and @justaphobethings has quite a lot of posts on these people (and others) saying awful things and being nasty.
[edit] Due to the increased harassment, transphobia, and threats, I am now auto-blocking everyone added to this list. If you do NOT believe any of the above and I’ve made a mistake, you’ll have to find another way besides a message or reply to correct this.
[edit] Also, (many) people on here aren’t irredeemable, there have been cases of people changing and being removed from here. There’s also the case of when someone else (often unrelated) takes over the URL and gets removed from here. If that happens, let me know… but again because of the abuse, these blogs are autoblocked, so you’ll have to find a way around that.
[edit5] “Why are there deactivated people on here?”
because regardless of deactivation their posts still exist and their comments on others’ posts also still exist, so, people who don’t want to give aphobes a platform should avoid those posts, that’s the point of this list
0829z
0nlyskeletonbcnesremain
16bitdiscourse (also threatens physical violence on aces for coming out)
343-guiltyspark / x2013x (also a terf and makes posts about violently attacking trans people)
37q
3amstims
3coursemeal
410940
4lung
6-/-6-6 (remove / for blocking purposes, tumblr autocorrects it to a longer dash)
6c415f (also a terf and biphobe)
6juggernaut
8bitprincex
9-lovs (also a terf and pedo apologist)
96galdeco
999twink
9enj1
a-bit-of-luck-and-a-lot-of-hunk
a-phobia
aawb (also a terf, doesn’t believe in biphobia, doesn’t believe that refusing to date or befriend bi people is biphobic, and believes that bi women are privileged over lesbians)
abigots
abracababra / discourspicy
accelgors (also biphobic)
ace-aro-spectrum-ppl-can-b-str8
ace-bpd-sangwoo
ace-cringe
ace-discourse-attorney
ace-tears
acecommunityreceipts (also claims aces can’t be raped for being ace)
acediscourse-central
acediscourseconsumer
acediscoursehalloffame
acediscourselesbian
acediskhorse
acenvy
aceoppression (also believes calling trans people cishets isn’t misgendering)
acephobeon
acephobia101 (also believes sex ed shouldn’t be taught to children and that you can’t know you’re ace until you’re a teen)
acephobiafreediscourse (also defended discourseprincesa (see below) and protested her outing)
acephobiaisajoke / gonnadeleteafter (also a rape apologist)
acepom
acetungldotcom (also suicide baits; wishes death on aces)
aceslation / lesbiandiscordblog (also blames Ace Tumblr TM for lesbian porn)
acevorese
acting-lesbianistically
aceslayertrannie
acetungle
acewlws
achievement-hunter
acoupleofradfems (also a terf)
actualaphobe
adlernotes
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@patheticlesbo i’m continuing here because adding on to the original post is just disrespectful. -SKIP TO BOLD IF YOU DON’T GIVE A SHIT- look, they’re BOTH risky moves. but it’s not “having no romance”, it’s “having no romance because they are aroace”. surprisingly, people have a violently different reaction to the two. typically, when a character has no canon romance... a lot of people just assume they’re gay. Elsa from frozen is a good example of how people react to that sort of thing. people have slowly but surely gotten more praising and accepting of lesbians in media. it’s not perfect, there’s still a lot of backlash, but we’re getting more and more strictly wlw in positive, well-written roles. the most well known aro character in media is voldemort. the very idea that someone can be unable to feel romance and still be a happy, good, human, satisfied person does not click in people’s minds. a large portion of the general public- including members of the LGBT+- completely reject it. they’ll either erase it faster than you can blink, or they’ll create giant flames about how this shouldn’t happen. and yes, i realize that this also happens with lesbian characters, and that is still a problem. but here’s the issue: you open your movie with a woman who has no interest in dating. IMMEDIATELY, this is assumed to be the problem that will be solved by the end of the movie. it’s expected that some man- or possibly some woman or nb person- will come and sweep her off her feet and the happy ending will be her magically discovering that love is real and needed. if the movie actually ended with her not dating anyone and being happy with that, how do you think the public would react? with the lesbian film, you can expect a wave of both praise and hatred over the lesbianism. but with the aroace ending, everyone’s confused, unsatisfied, and probably angry because they didn’t get the ending they came for. THAT is why it’s a riskier move. it’s not about the identities, but about the medium and what is expected in that kind of story. the aroace is riskier because it’s a twist that very few people can appreciate. even though it’s a happy ending, nobody’s actually happy except the people who want more positive aroace representation. -SKIP TO HERE IF YOU DON’T GIVE A SHIT- look, i agree with you that it wasn’t a good move to add on to a lesbian post the way oneesk-nineteen did. it was unnecessary and they could have just made their own damn post. hell, i should have made my own damn post, it’s just easier to reply that way. i said “probably because” not because i agreed with them doing it, but because you asked why they would. you asked a question, i gave you a potential answer. you deserve to feel normal. the fact that lesbians in positive roles are getting more popular is a good and beautiful thing and i want to see it continue, both as a wlw myself and as a supporter. and it’s sad that people highjack posts meant for your positivity, you deserve to have your own shit. i’m still pissed that people took the bechdel test and made it a women’s thing when it started as a lesbian thing. i do not condone that. i’m simply explaining to you the possible motives, because you asked. i’m sorry this came off as defending the adding, or lesbophobic, or that i was saying you “aren’t radical enough”. i think you could really benefit from examining the culture around you because you’re under the impression that aroace people aren’t systematically oppressed, and... it’s very hard to take that view seriously when i’m uncomfortably aware of just how much goes into beating them down on a daily basis. i legitimately cannot imagine an experience where your view on that looks right. it’s very, very detached from reality in my eyes, past the point of naivete. i say this not to insult you, but to hopefully open your mind a little. bottom line, it was a bad move, but there ARE reasons and your aggressive reply was just as uncalled for. you could have just said “hey, this post is for lesbians and it’s disrespectful to tack your own stuff on, could you please go make your own post instead” or something like that. instead you used strong, hurtful words(”why in god’s name” “insidious”) and made it sound like the most mindlessly lesbophobic thing in the world, and that’s why i replied. i admit i could have handled it better myself.
#discourse#lesbophobia#arophobia#film discussion#acephobia#aphobia#long post#i was really angry when i first replied#i'm calmer now
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