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The difference between Ivans dying “heartbeat” and Tills dying “heartbeat” is interesting—to me at least.
Ivan’s heartbeat is characterized by the beat of drums and is rather passionate and energetic. Its loud, urgent, and suspenseful. Much like the feelings hes held for Till for the majority of his time in The Garden. His yearning is deep and woven into him; the thought of Till is his morning joy and his nights peace. In almost everything we see of Ivan, he is either watching, talking, or helping Till. Though he seems calm and composed most of the time, his obsession runs deep. He enjoys being with Till …even if Till isn’t entirely aware of his presence. Even in Tills rejection, he remained devoted. Till was his everything. We can see this in one of Ivans interviews where hes asked, “Have you gotten everything youve ever wanted?” and he responds: “No, but i came very close once.” This must be in reference to when he and Till nearly escaped together under a meteor shower.
So its no wonder Ivan would feel this love—this obsession surging through him as he sacrificed himself for Till. Be felt love, sadness, and longing in last moments. His heart was thrumming in his chest, as if it was trying to rip itself from its cage of bones, if only to unite with Tills this once. His heartbeat banged and roared for Till in his last moments, and in his whole life, he’d never been more at peace.
Till, on the other hand, had a meek, innocent, melancholic xylophone for a “heartbeat”.
Unlike Ivan, Till was deeply wounded in heart and body. His entire life he was abused, used, and treated like trash. He didnt take it lying down, but even the fiercest people get tired of the constant pain. He had gotten used to touch that was hurtful, and to hard hearts. To him, hate and anger were the norm. Those emotions came easily to him, and became part of what drove him forward. He had told himself for so long that his existence was supposed to be pain. That this is just how it is. And Ivan often challenged this belief. We see Ivan help Till multiple times. We see his loving looks and curious stares. Till was not used to such…attention. It challenged his natural inclination to hate. Ivan, though weird and sometimes annoying, never looked or treated Till like he was a burden. Although his actions, such as when he stepped on his flower crown, knowing they were hidden cameras, annoyed and sometimes angered Till, Ivan never did any of it from ill intent. And even still, he received Till’s anger, because even that type of attention from Till was bliss.
Till wasnt used to this treatment, so he avoided acknowledging it. He didn’t know what to make of it. All he knew to do was fight and push on. Run away. He couldn’t come to terms with the fact that maybe, just maybe, he loved Ivan. Maybe he liked the time Ivan would spend with him. Maybe he enjoyed his voice, and his touch, and even his weird humor.
Till didnt accept it until he had to watch Ivan die. Until he realized those kisses would be his first and last. He went into round 7 spiraling down a hole of regret and anguish. He did not want to die. He had just realized that love is in fact his to hold, that he doesn’t always have to fight. He had just realized that he had something to live for after all. He was weak in the heart and body. He yearned for the even a speck of innocence again, just to feel peace one last time. Mizi was a portal into that innocence, hence his flashback before his death. The girl he idolized was alive and he discovered his love for Ivan. He died when he had finally found reasons to live.
#alienstage#alnst till#alien stage till#tillivan#ivantill#alien stage ivan#alnst ivan#alnst mizi#alien stage mizi#alien stage round 7#alien stage#im not okay#wtf#my ivantill tears
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I can't stop thinking about the scene where Ivan finds Till and nuzzles his head against his. He was on that banquet for the same reason as Till, most likely went through the same treatment with the only difference being that he doesn't fight it so it will be less painful (but it isn't really)
So i think he not only felt bad about Till but for both of them. I've seen a lot of takes that say he didn't kiss Till because Till was unconscious and he knew that it was wrong after what Till went through, but i think a kiss didn't even occur to him.
He got out of that banquet and immediately looked for Till, perhaps out of just worry but i think he needs that human comfort as well.
His eyes were glassy the moment he looked at Till, he was keeping it together until he saw him.
And then he just... holds him close
#IVAN JUST WANTS A HUG TOO GUYS AAUHHG😭😭😭#forever a ivan is not as inhuman as people say truther#he makes me so sad i tear up just thinking abt it is embarrassing#alnst till#alnst ivan#alien stage#text post#ivantill#universe please put that ivantill hug sketch in my hands it would be the cure to my sadness
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https://twitter.com/_k4uo/status/1778757109603279286
chat what if i fucking cry
#alien stage#ivantill#very sane meeku behaviour#I AM NOT OKAY#IM IN TEARS#I CANNOT WITH THIS#SOBBINGSNGNS#IVE ONLY KNOWN THESE TWO FOR A FEW DAYS AND IM BAWLING MY EYES OUT FOR THEM#NNGNRNGHHHHEUUUHRHGHHGHHGHGHRH
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I'll honestly still be mourning the ROUND 6 that we could have had. The first sketches where Ivan and Till are hugging... Ivan with his arm around Till's shoulders.... The friendly teasing...
I fully understand why they had to change it, but it's still sad to think about all that we missed out on.
#alnst#alien stage#alien stage round 6#ivantill#it rips me apart to think about the fact that they changed the draft because ivantill overlapped too much with mizisua.#they seemed too “mutual”#their relationship seemed closer and more fond in those sketches....#but ultimately thats not what the team intended. they wanted each of their relationships to be different#and ivantill was apparently supposed to be “obssessive” and “possessive” (CRAZY ADJECTIVES BTW.)#the thing they wanted to emphasize about ivantill was that it was one-sided. (tearing my hair out)#what if i ARRRRGGHHHHHHH#i always thought the round 6 we got seemed so different from what i was imagining#and knowing how much they changed it. it makes sense#the patreon posts painted a very different picture for me at the time. the sketches in particular gave me hope hahaha#many things ended up different#im still grateful for the teams work#what we got was sadder and more tragic but if its closer to what they envisioned then im glad
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Been wanting to draw them for a long time now
My cure 😞😞
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it's you
despite everything,
it's still you
#how long have i looped cure for u may ask? yes.#in despair how will i ever function from now on#there are so many thoughts... so many feelings... so many tears... oh ivantill...#cries i want their standees so bad... i want to put them on my shelf and act like everything is ok and well and dandy ;w;;#will i break and cave for chara x chara just to give them a happy ending? who knows.... im so tempted...#also listening to their ver. of my clematis again hit different and in the worst way possible :'D#ivantill#alien stage#alien stage round 6#alnst#alnst round 6#alnst ivan#alnst till#ivan#till
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🎶 Lost in forever's embrace
#new print!!!!!!! ill have it for y/con#they make me ill... doomed yaoi.. yesss..#alnst#alien stage#ivantill#alien stage ivan#alien stage round 6#alien stage till#laying in a puddle of my own tears about these two#owie owie owie ow ow ow ow
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thinking about all those years ivan spent learning about boundaries and how to maintain healthy relationships but then throwing that away (and, subsequently, his relationship with till) during round 6 by initiating that kiss
comic translations by @/whatafruit on twitter x (except for the last two, those are mine)
#my ramblings#ivan is an incredibly dedicated person#his schedule is noted by the hour and his image is portrayed as a respectful pet human who is intelligent and charming#he never asked for anything. he never acted out. he learned how to smile by practicing with his reflection in the water#he painstakingly crafted this image of himself outside of anakt garden and managed to elevate himself as a business partner of sorts#but while he was in anakt garden he was… imperfect#he constantly bugged till as a way to gain his attention and he annoyed the hell out of sua in an attempt to relate to her#then he learned about boundaries and restraint. he began to hide his affection under side glances and gentle touches#he took off till’s collar and wiped away his tears. but only in secret. only when no one was watching#but he never breached till’s boundaries until round 6. the kiss was as good as waving a white flag.#it signified the death of their relationship as ivan finally released his sculpted image#he essentially chooses to kill their relationship all on his own before his death#sorry. my ivan brainrot is back in full force after he showed up in r7 for like 30 seconds#alien stage#alnst ivan#ivantill
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i think about this part often maybe a bit too much
#i mean its just till getting choked#but 𝓮𝓻𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂#you catch my drift?#also the way ivan is just like hard staring through him bro is higher than the clouds#it looked like he was playing kahoot in his brain deciding what to do next after realizing the face sucking wasnt doing anything but he had#taken this kahoot quiz b4 so he just went for the green option instantly#(thought really hard about this for like 2 seconds or in this case had used all the other options)#like he was just fucking around no clear plan#and just Till's general expression of 🫨#he looked like he saw jesus for a second also his eye bags are more apparent#and now im just noticing the skin folds around the neck#so im afraid ivan did actually go for the juggler and genuinely tried strangling till#with intent to kill or not im unsure#im getting tears on my screen let me stop here#alien stage#alnst till#alnst ivan#alien stage till#alnst#alien stage ivan#ivantill
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Need to say how the last thing that Ivan actually tasted was his own blood, not Till’s lips
#ivantill#doomed#alien stage#alnst#alnst till#alnst ivan#alnst round 6#fuck#sobbing#angst#NO#ivan is alive#u cannot tell me otherwise#please#my babies are well and safe#but also#evil laughter#if I must suffer#everyone suffers#hyuna’s sunglasses#😎#they hide my running tears#vivinos#vivinos is mad for this#it hurts so badly#your honor i love him#your honour they are in love#mizisua#when i catch you#rip Ivan
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Ivantill week 2024, day 2: Cool/Cute
#ivantillweek2024#ivantill#alsnt ivan#alsnt till#think till looks a little more “classy” than “cool” but shh#their clothes aren't really from anywhere#till's is a mish-mash of a bunch of pinterest pictures#and ivan is just....idk brainworms#lowkey my tablet cord is slowly tearing itself apart so that's why this is late#my art#illustration#(I think this counts??)
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If your emotions are so shallow, why are we all drowning in it?
#alien stage#alnst#alien stage ivan#alnst ivan#ivantill#the angst is immaculate#you have no idea how many tears I shed because of his shallow emotions#im literally drowning in my tears
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urak rings up unsha after round 6 and yells into the phone L BOZOOOOOOOOO
#the SHIT EATING SATISFACTION THAT BITCH WOULD HAVE#haha unsha your son wants to bang my son and he DIED!!! fuck you#tears in my eyes#alnst#alien stage#alien stage ivan#alien stage till#ivantill
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i only need five minutes alone with till's stylist to beat the shit out of them
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IM GRIEVING NO ONE SPEAK TO ME
#tears in my ivantill eyes#tears in my till eyes#im ngl the screw up we had while trying to watch it togehter was hilarious
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TRYING TO WRITE AN IVANTILL FIX IT FIC AND Y'KNOW WHAT STARTS PLAYING?
IM GOING TO KILL MYSELF IVAN STYLE.
#IN THE BACK OF MY MIND YOU DIED#AND I DIDNT EVEN CRY#NO. NOT A SINGLE TEAR#AND IM TIRED OF WAITING HERE PATIENTLY FOR SOMEONE THAT WONT EVEN ARRIVE.#alien stage#ivantill
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