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a small surprise part 3 (gravity falls g/t)
omgggggg i'm still doing this! i actually have so much written! i didn't think i'd get this far but i just can't stop. enjoy!
parts 1 and 2!
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âAlright, shorty, where does this go?â
âRight there. In the â yeah, that one.â
âAre you sure? This doesnât look right.â
âHow would you possibly know what looks right?â
âDonât question me! I can look at a picture and know what itâs supposed to be!â
âDiagram. Itâs a diagram.â
âPsh. Whatever. Sâjust a word to make dumb nerds seem smarter than the rest of us.âÂ
âPretty sure Ford is smarter than the rest of us.â
Thatâs how pretty much every conversation had gone today.
The first couple of days werenât too bad, though it was mostly spent by Stan working on something alone until he remembered Jay was there. Sometimes, he would disappear into the portal room for hours, trying to get it back on by sheer willpower.
Now, it was day five â no, six â seven? â of the portal reactivation effort, and if Jay had to put a number on it, she���d say zero progress had been made. She was trying her best to honor this truce of sorts that they made, but it was becoming increasingly difficult as the days went on, especially the ways heâd mock their size difference.Â
âHey, hand me those pliers, wonâtcha?â he would say, a wicked smile plastered on his face. Or heâd be sitting on the floor and pretend he couldnât reach the table when he needed something. More than once, Jay threatened to drop something on his head, but that just seemed to make him laugh even harder.Â
âOh, câmon, Iâm just teasing you, tiny,â he would say, feigning innocence, and then heâd give her a hearty poke in the back and sheâd stumble forward, often half-falling and needing her hands to stop her momentum. âDonât take it so personal!â
âEasy for you to say,â sheâd mumble, rubbing whatever part of her body was now sore.
âTake it from me, kid. When life punches you, you gotta punch back. Donât be such a pushover.â
It was almost like he was giving advice to himself as much as he was lecturing Jay. She didnât need to be told how to survive, least of all by a giant.Â
Jay tried to keep her distance, offering up nuggets of wisdom where she could, but Stan was mostly dismissive of anything she had to say.Â
Until she actually figured something out.
He was mindlessly flipping through the journal one day when he suddenly stormed off, presumably to find a soda, or something a little stronger. Curious as to what got him so mad, Jay trotted over to the open journal and ambled onto the page, setting her hands on her hips as she read over the impossibly large display.
Jayâs eyes scanned the page dutifully, trying to pick up the little things she learned from Ford. He had shown her that equations that seemed like a random amalgamation of letters, numbers and squiggles actually had meaning when you knew what stood for what.
Thatâs when she spotted it. It was a large, red W â something Ford called the âweirdness coefficient.â She didnât know exactly what it was used for, but she actually recognized the string of data that succeeded it. She followed it along, running across the page a few times to get it all in her head. She was so distracted that she never noticed Stanley enter the room, drink in hand. The loud cracking of the canâs tab snapped her back to reality.Â
âEw,â Stan said, eyeing her with suspicion as he sat down. âWhy are you so sweaty?â
âNo! Donât sit! Youâve gotta help me.â
âWhat are you talking about?â
âI think I figured something out.â
Stan nearly spit out his drink. âYou? Figuring something out? Hah, sure, and Iâm a millionaire.â
âDonât act so surprised,â Jay retorted. âItâs not like youâve done anything.â
âItâs only been a couple of days, squirt. Iâm just gettinâ started.â
Jay rolled her eyes. Stanâs machismo attitude was really unmatched. âOkay, well, can you hear me out on this one?â Stan took a long sip of his soda, then nodded. âOkay, you see this here? This big W? Thatâs the weirdness coefficient. Itâs supposed to account for the average amount of weirdness â or, anomalies â that can leak through to this dimension at any given time. So this equation here, it stipulates the maximum amount of W â weirdness â that can be allowed through P, or the portal. So, we have to make sure the leakage output doesnât exceed this number here.â She pointed to a bold number circled in red, looking up at Stan, a little winded from all the talking.Â
Stan blinked. âI have no idea what you just said.â
She groaned. âIt means we have to input this number,â she tapped it again for good measure, âinto that machine over there.â
Stan squinted at her tiny arm pointing outward, trying to hide his amused smile. He turned around, then turned back. âHow do you know thatâs the right one?â
âI just know. I saw Ford using it a million times.â
âWhat if youâre wrong and we blow up the place?â
âHey, if you donât trust me, you can just say you donât trust me.â
âAlright. I donât trust you.â
âOkay, you werenât actually supposed to say it,â Jay said, crossing her arms. âCome on! How can we work together if you wonât listen to me?â
Stan tapped his chin. He seemed to actually be thinking about it. âYou bring up a valid point.â
âYes, yes, I know. Now, could you put the number in?â
For the slightest moment, Stan hesitated. The inflection in her voice, and the authoritative way in which she spoke, sounded so much like Ford that it almost made him scream. Yes, yes, I know might as well have been his catchphrase. Stan tried really, really hard not to think about it, but for a nanosecond, his mind was filled with so much pain at the reminder of this little person spending so much time with Ford that she picked up on his speaking patterns that it made him want to curl up his fist and â
He stopped. Come on, Stan, you need her. You know you do. The sooner Ford is back, the sooner youâll never have to see her again.
âWhere am I putting it in, short stuff?â he finally asked. Jay tried to point him in the right direction, but even when he found the right knobs, he didnât know how to do it correctly.
âUgh, why donât you just do it?â Stan sighed angrily.
Jay furrowed her brow. âThis again? Are you serious?â
âDon't think this doesn't hurt my ego. But the only thing worse than having you do it is listening to you squeak about it,â Stan grumbled. âNow, câmon, just do this so we can move on.â
Jay nervously laughed. He didnât sound like he was joking. âStanley, I don't know if youâve noticed, but I canât exactly walk over there and start pressing buttons.â
âWhat, I thought you wanted to be all self-sufficient? And didnât you say you were good at climbing?â
Jay clenched her jaw. Maybe telling him little things about borrower life wasn't such a good idea. âWell, yeah, but I donât â that would take a while, and I donât think you want to wait. So just, listen, you just have toââ
âNope! Not this again,â Stan declared. He took a few steps toward her and was now looming over her, hand twitching. She knew what he was about to do, but was powerless to stop it.
âBe â careful!â she yelped. She felt her arm bend uncomfortably against her body as Stan stuck his hand underneath her and lifted her into the air. She shut her eyes tight as the pressure in her head mounted. Even when they stopped moving, it didnât feel like it.
Stan stared intently, wondering why she wasnât moving. âUh. You okay?â
His booming voice only made her ears ring more. It had to be 30 full seconds before she finally felt centered again. Her stomach dropped when she opened her eyes and saw just how far the ground was. Sure, she had been up higher, but the anxiety of sitting in Stanâs hand only exacerbated her unease. She never even felt 100% secure in Fordâs hand, given the way he would sometimes forget she was there. Fidds was the only one she felt remotely comfortable holding her.
âTiny? Hello?â Stan shook his hand a bit, as if the issue was that she forgot where she was. He felt the tiniest of pressures as she pushed her palms into his, and he immediately stopped moving. Oh.
âPlease â move slower,â she croaked, not even bothering to look up at him. âAnd donât just pick me up without asking.â
âYeah, sure, okay,â he said, sounding a bit dismissive. Truthfully, he was fully aware and then some about what he just did, but he didnât want to admit that he probably fucked up. He walked the few steps over to where the control console was and stuck his arm out, holding her out in front like a platform.
âOkay, short stack. Just tell me where to move you.â
âThe row of five switches with the red light up there.â Stan pointed to confirm, and she nodded. âYeah, that one.â
She should have prepared for how fast he was going to move, but it still caught her off guard. She wanted to yell at him for not listening, but getting fresh with a giant while she was in their hand was not something she was interested in.
Stan chuckled in amusement at how much effort it took her to turn the knob, and it turned to a full-blown laugh at the way she couldnât push one of the switches back up.
âOh, is this funny to you?â she huffed, clearly exhausted.
âOh, yes,â Stan grinned. âExtremely.â
âJust â flick it yourself, please,â she sighed, plopping down in his palm. His hand reflexively twitched at the movements, and he shot her a brief look. Man, she actually looks beat from that.
âFine, fine. Let the big guy show you how itâs done,â Stan said with that smarmy smile. Jay watched incredulously at the way his arm seemed to stretch on forever from his body to the panel. It hung over her like a heavy barrier; something her weight wouldnât even register against. He could swing his arm and knock her off his hand and he wouldnât feel a thing.
It was even worse watching him flick the switch with ease. Sure, she had watched Ford and Fidds do crazy human things all the time, but something about the way Stan did it was different. It was almost⌠taunting.
âThere. Now what?â
âWell, if Iâm right, it shouldââ
Suddenly, she couldnât speak. It was as if her entire body was frozen. A dull sensation reverberated through her, and then, pain. A loud popping sound zapped her ears and she fell backwards, landing hard on her butt, her head ringing, her body aching.
âWoah!â Stan shouted, flinching back. A small spark jumped out from the panel, but he narrowly avoided it. âWas that supposed toââ he started, but stopped. She wasn't moving. Again.
âHey, tiny, you alright?â Nothing. âKid?â Still nothing. She was definitely breathing, but seemed to be in a lot of pain. âJay, you okay?â
She grit her teeth, trying to usher the pain out of her body. Luckily, it melted away after a few seconds, and even though her head was spinning, she was alright. It was no worse than being whipped around on Stanâs hand, anyway.
âIâm fine,â she finally said, though her voice almost sounded like it was glitching. She took another moment to recompose herself. âGuess it didnât work.â
Stan almost forgot to respond. âI donât even know what it was supposed to do.â
âIt was supposed to â once you put in the W maximum, it should have calibrated a couple other systems. Thing must be fried after the portal was turned on.â
âOh,â Stan said, pretending to understand. âSo, how do we fix it?â
âI â donât know,â Jay admitted. âIâve never been inside there before. Not really sure what to do with the wires.â
Stan hummed, unsure of where to go from here. This was the most tangible progress they had made since forming this unlikely alliance, and it got them nowhere.
âWell, uh, if it makes you feel any better⌠good job.â Jay winced at the way he sounded like the words were being tortured out of him. âFiguring this thing out, I mean.â
âI got it,â Jay said, a small smile forming on her lips. Why did that compliment make her feel so⌠warm? âThanks, Stanley.â
âYeah, yeah, just donât be expecting any more compliments from me,â he shot back, though there was no bite to it. âDonât want you going soft on me.â
âPsh. Never in a million years,â Jay teased.
To her surprise, Stan set her down slowly on the table before burying his head back in the journal. He was only half-reading it, though, because he couldnât get his mind off Jay. It was so contradictory â every time she did something impressive, like spout mathematical nonsense she had no business knowing, she would be rendered immobile by a slight altitude change or a small electric shock. She was so much more fragile than he thought. It was beginning to dawn on him that he actually did have to be careful, or else he might accidentally kill her. He shuddered at the thought. He couldnât be so reckless when it came to someoneâs entire life.Â
Not again.
Ever since then, he seemed to care a little bit more about her opinion, which confused Jay to no end, but she didnât complain. Even if he was invasive and had no regard for her personal space, he seemed to have a... gentler air about him. Like he was trying more.
But it didnât always show, especially when he got frustrated. They were rapidly approaching that territory right now.
âI think the red wire has to connect to the other end,â she said, glancing at the journal. âNo, not that one, the other one! Right there â you keep missing it!â
Stan clenched his teeth. He was getting tired of being bossed around. âWell, if itâs so easy, why donât you come do it?â
Jay felt her blood boil. âI hate when you say that.â
Stan grinned wildly. âI know.â
âUgh.â Jay flopped on her back. âWeâre not getting anywhere.â
âWe? Youâre not even doinâ anything.â Stan abandoned his rewiring effort and joined Jay at the table. âMaybe youâre reading this thing wrong.â He grabbed the journal and pulled it to him, taking Jay along with it. She yelped and held on tight as she was moved at a blinding speed from one side of the table to the other.
âCâmon, get off,â Stan began to shoo her away like a fly, and Jay quickly jumped off the book. âI gotta look at this thing.â
Jay stumbled when she landed, staring up at Stan with a disapproving look until she gave up trying to telegraph her annoyance. The worst part was he didnât ignoring her maliciously; he genuinely didnât care that she was there. She swallowed, her unease growing at the extended silence as Stan scanned the journal. She had been in close physical proximity to him for basically a week now, and it was unnerving. She had no idea what he was ever going to do, and the only thing stopping him from picking her up all the time was that she grossed him out. But that didnât feel like a strong enough motivator to stop him from swiping her clean off the table if he got mad enough.
âUgh, what am I missing?â Stan groaned. He tilted his head, along with the journal, trying to find some hidden message.
Jay marveled at the way he so easily swung the book around. âI donât think youâre missing anything. Thereâs only so many ways to read it.â
âCâmon, short stack, you hung out with my know-it-all brother more than any female ever has. You gotta know something. What about theseâŚâ he narrowed his eyes, âweird secret codes?â
âYeah, Iâve tried my best with those, but I donât think I know enough to figure them out.â
âIâll say,â Stan mumbled under his breath. Jay heard it, but chose to ignore it.
Stan took a moment to think. Maybe I should go to the library and find a book about this or somethinâ. Hah, now Iâm really thinking like Ford. But the last thing he wanted was to go into town. There had to be an answer in the journal somewhere. Where thereâs a test, thereâs always an answer sheet.
But first, he was going to do it his way.
âIâm gonna go shove the lever around again,â Stan announced, grabbing the tool box and disappearing into the portal room. Jay knew it was a futile effort, so while Stan got himself needlessly tired, she would go back to working on her secret project â the new hook that would buy her freedom.Â
At best, Stan was tolerable, and being at his mercy was giving her increasing amounts of anxiety. If she couldnât go back for the contraptions that Fidds made her, sheâd just have to do it the old fashioned way. But she only went to work when Stan was asleep or in the portal room. There was no way he could know about this.
Jay had been relegated to sleeping on the table while Stan was here. He had only gone upstairs to get food and drinks, often falling asleep right on the table and getting back to work when his own snores jolted him awake.
Thankfully, there was plenty of material to work with. Not so thankfully, none of it was a rope and a paper clip. She had already fashioned two hooks out of sharp pieces of metal, so her next step was either finding something long enough to lower her to the ground or tying a bunch of short but sturdy things together. Even a parachute could work at this rate.
Her mind flashed back to times with Ford, when they would test out her physics with paper hang gliders and makeshift obstacle courses out of rulers and tape dispensers. He went through a phase of trying to see how far a fall she could take before hurting herself, but that only lasted a week before Jay made him drop the subject. His final conclusion? âVery far.â
Evidently, though, she got too into tinkering, because she didnât even notice when Stan walked back into the room, jacket shed and face sweaty from all the work. He watched her curiously, trying to see what exactly she was doing. Maybe she just messes with metal like itâs a toy or something. She was working on sharpening her hooks and finding heavy enough things to wrap them around when Stan cleared his throat, and she nearly shot 500 feet in the air.
âWhatâre you doing?â Stan asked.
âNothing!â Jay squeaked. âI mean, not nothing nothing, Iâm just â itâs ââ
But Stan was no longer interested in her ramblings. He reached down and carefully pinched one of the metal hooks between his fingers, ripping it right out of her hands.
âHEY!â she yelled, but to no avail. Even if she could fight him for it, it wouldnât have mattered, because her legs turned to jelly and her arms became numb the moment his massive fingers came next to her, filling her entire body with a sense of dread. She quickly let go to avoid being pulled up into the air.
âWhat is thisâŚ?â Stan turned the object, observing it intently, marveling at just how damn small it was. Jay felt sick at how miniscule her only path to freedom looked between Stanâs fingers.Â
âItâs nothing! Give it back!â she tried, but one glance from Stan promptly shut her up and even pushed her back a few steps. God, heâs so far away.
âHuh⌠you made this?â he asked, holding it out to her. She just shrugged, unwilling to answer.
Stan wouldnât have been suspicious otherwise, but he had spent the better part of his life either around criminals or being the criminal. He knew what guilt looked like. He also knew a bad liar when he saw one. He just couldnât figure out what she was trying to hide.
Not at first, anyway.
He tried to think: if he was that tiny, what would he need something like this for? It certainly wasnât for fixing the portal, so what was it for? Fun? Stan didnât know what was so fun about bent metal. Maybe she was just bored? Then there was no reason for her to act so suspicious. She would have just said so.
Then it hit him. Whatâs the one thing she wanted more than anything, besides getting Ford back? To be left alone. And it wasnât like she could just walk out of the room whenever she wanted.
She had been looking for an escape since Stan found her. She was manufacturing a way out.
Stan ahhâd in realization, and the way Jayâs face went pale was all the confirmation he needed.Â
âNot sure how you were planning to escape with this, and I admire the effort. Really! But you canât hustle a hustler, kid.â
Jay didnât know what that meant, but it didnât matter. Her heart was pounding, her breathing labored. She had no clue what was coming next.
âLook, if you donât wanna be here, I wonât stop you. In case you haven't noticed, Iâm not running a charity here. Iâm trying to get my brother back, and I canât seem to figure out if thatâs really what you want or not.â He callously tossed the metal back to her, and she scrambled out of the way as it clanged a few inches from her. âSo scram, alright? Get outta here.â
Jay blinked. He was⌠really going to let her go like that? She didnât believe him. Humans didnât do that. They never did. Theyâd always be back.
But that part didnât even matter, because she did want Ford back. Even with the threat of opening the portal, she wanted her best friend back more than anything. She just really, really hated working with his irritating brother, and she didnât know how to deal with him. The only people she had ever dealt with this closely were Ford and Fidds. She wasnât used to anything else. She couldn't handle anything else.
âIâm â Iâm not trying to â to leave,â Jay stammered. God, that sounded so pathetic. âI just â need some freedom, thatâs all.â
A light went off in Stanâs head. âYou canât leave, can you?â
Jay raised an eyebrow. âOf course I can leaveââ
âNo, not this room, this house. You donât want to leave here. Thereâs nowhere else for you to go.â
âIââ Jay started, but she had no words. He was right. He was right, damn it! He saw her as this helpless little thing, and he was right.
âHuh, so the squirt that thinks sheâs better than me needs me to keep her safe. Right?â
âI donât â I donât think Iâm better than you!â Jay said, but it didnât sound convincing. And she didnât even try and dispute the other point.
Stanâs face scrunched up. âHuh, you sure act like it. Well, squirt, you may need me, but I donât need you. If you disappeared right now, I wouldnât waste my energy lookinâ for you, because Iâm the one who actually cares about fixing this damn thing and saving Ford!â
Jay knew fighting back would be a bad idea. It had never, ever worked before. But she couldnât take the constant antagonizing. She just couldnât.
âStop acting like I donât want him back, either!â Jay blurted. Stan looked at her in surprise, but it was too late. The floodgates were open. She was tired of hearing this. âItâs just â itâs dangerous! And thereâs only so much I can do!â
âYeah, and you do a pretty terrible job! Half the time you sit there and mock me for not knowing the âdifferenceâ between a picture and a diagram! And there isnât even a difference!â
âThere is!â
âSee! Youâre just like Ford, always talking down to me, acting like Iâm just some â bumbling idiot who canât possibly be on his level.â
âThatâs not true!â Jay asserted. âI donât think youâre an idiot!â
âWell you certainly fooled me!â
âYouâre just â so stubborn!â Jay was nearing the edge of the table now. âYou ask for my help, and yet you canât even fathom that I would know something you donât!â
âMaybe Iâd listen to you more if you werenât so damn tiny! Iâm taking orders from someone who canât even walk up the stairs by herself!â
Jayâs eyes widened in shock. Oh, so that was it. Of course it was. How could she think it was anything else? Her heart was racing now, her stomach churning. How could she respond? Why did she ever think she could fight a giant?
âAnd you act like youâre so much better because you were best friends with him,â Stan sneered, placing particular mocking emphasis on that part. âHeâs MY brother! MY family! He probably only talked to you because youâre â weird and small and he felt bad! Youâre just a thing, an experiment for him to get all excited about! He never cared about you!â
Jay knew responding would be a bad idea, but her lips moved faster than her brain. âOh yeah? He didnât even want to think about you! I didnât even know you existed until you showed up here! Maybe if you werenât such a lazy freeloader, he wouldââ
It was at that moment her life flashed before her eyes.
#the suspense!!!#and the rewrites i did for this entire part...#ended up having to split it in two#my downfall is trying to make things as realistic as possible#which is definitely achievable when writing about four inch tall people#gravity falls g/t#gravity falls#g/t#giant/tiny#obwrites
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Anime and Kindness
@sweetsassymusic sent this message to me.Â
Iâm currently trying to sort my feelings on a troubling anime I watched that I both loved and hated. Itâs an anime I think youâve seen (and possibly disliked?) if I remember right, so I was wondering if you had any thoughts that might help me put it in perspective.
The anime is Puella Magi Madoka Magica. (Big spoilers ahead.)
The show is filled with good-hearted girls who want to fight for justice, help others, and make the world a better place. But the more they try to do this, the more theyâre punished for it. More importantly, the ways they are punished for it make it seem like a purposeful thing. Like the show is saying they deserve punishment for trying to do good, that trying to help people is selfish or stupid, and they need to grow out of that desire. Meanwhile, characters who exploit others and care only for themselves are faring much better.
Itâs not an accident either. Real statements Iâve seen by the creators, active fans and prominent reviewers state that, âThe characters are naĂŻve enough to believe that every magical girl should use their power to help peopleâ and âThe girlsâ strong sense of justice is their downfallâ and âBeing more honest than everyone else also makes the girls weaker than everyone else. They donât think properly about right and wrong.â and that the show forces viewers âto question whether there is really such a thing as a selfless act, and that kindness can lead to greater tragedy.â
It would be one thing if it were urging viewers to be kind in a âsmartâ way (i.e. be kind but protect yourself, donât trust everyone, learn to say no to people, etc.). But sometimes it feels like this show is condemning kindness as a whole, because no matter how âsmartâ the girls on the show try to be with their kindness, things still get worse for them. Like having ideals at all is too idealistic, and you need to repent of it all or youâre destined to fail.
Thereâs even a cosmic rule Kyubeh talks about where the universe balances itself through an equal measure of kindness and cruelty, so if you try to add more kindness to the world, you will eventually be forced to add more cruelty as well so the universe can re-balance. So, because the world needs balance, too much kindness is a bad thing, and cruelty is good because itâs a balancing factor?
On the surface, it seems like the writers want people to give up on the idea of kindness as a goal, and instead think of it as a nice little thing you do occasionally (as long as itâs not too big a kindness!) as you focus on the real everyday goal of ensuring your survival. But if this was what they really intended, they wouldnât have ended the anime like they did: with Homura doubling down on the need to fight for justice in the world because itâs a world for which Madoka was willing to sacrifice herself, so it must be worth it to keep fighting. But why fight for justice when doing so is ânaiveâ, imbalances the world, leads to further cruelty that might otherwise not happen, and is ultimately in vain? The show condemns the girls for their ideals. It also condemns them when they abandon those ideals. And it doesnât seem to offer a third path. What is it suggesting people do?
Part of me wants to just dismiss the show as weird, wrong and overly cynical of the world. But at the same time, the show is so well-done, the events laid out so realistically. It felt honest, like this really is what would happen to these girls if this situation was real. And thereâs been so many times in real life that I or others I know have been in that situation, where weâre trying to help people or make the world better, and weâre being âsmartâ about it, and it still blows up so bad that maybe we shouldnât have bothered. The people we tried to help are worse off, weâre worse off. Itâs clear weâre supposed to learn something from this. But what?
I have actually not seen this anime, but I have friends who had complicated feelings about it. The main thing I know about it is how brutal it is, how it totally upends the usually glittery, safe world of magical girls. Itâs difficult to take it out of its context as a response to that genre; itâs critiquing whatever âpower fantasyâ drives most magical girl stories that donât deal with violence, PTSD, or body horror/transformation like this series does. There are probably some cultural barriers that hit differently for audiences not already steeped in some of those narratives. I can see how the grimdark, torturous storyline feels as though it is punishing a genre that is intentionally feminine and positive, as if those stories ever claimed to be able to solve all the problems of the world. It can feel like knocking down a strawman, or using the wrong genre as a tool to talk about unrelated themes.
In writing this post, though, I came across two quotes from the head writer, Gen Urobuchi, that I think will shed light on the intention of the series. While I have not seen Puella Magi Madoka Magica, I am very familiar with Urobuchiâs other signature series, Psycho-Pass, a cyberpunk dystopian anime. Both series are meditations on power, free will, and morality.
The first quote is an interview Urobuchi gave with the publication Asahi Shimbun.
Madoka Magica is an original story. Where did the idea come from?
I received a request to write a bloody story where magical girls appear, and then drop out one by one. I paid attention to the aspects that are troubling or overlooked in the traditional magical girl genre. Iâve been thinking that magical girls who have acquired superhuman abilities will find themselves removed from the world, which would cause contradictions and reactions.
Magical girls, who are full of hope and who strive to save the people, soon suffer from hatred and jealousy, which turn them into the enemy witches. The change from good to evil left an emotional impact.
For example, Al-Qaeda brought down the Twin Towers due to their self-righteousness. Justice for some people is an evil for others. Good intentions, kindness, and hope will not necessarily make people happy. (X)
The second is a Blaise Pascal quote that Urobuchi uses in the opening scenes of Psycho-Pass.
Justice is subject to dispute. Might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice.
Both of these are bleak. The Al-Qaeda reference probably misidentifies the issue (Al-Qaeda has never pretended to be âkindâ!) and just generally doesnât work as an analogy. But he seems to be saying that possessing power separates you from the world in an irrevocable way. The only limits on what you can do are self-imposed principles, or possibly a karmic rebalancing that always brings you down to earth again. These themes often come up in superhero stories, which can either be framed in positive, aspirational terms (âwith great power comes great responsibilityâ) or as deconstructions (âif God is all-powerful, he cannot be all-good, and if God is all-good, he cannot be all-powerfulâ â Lex Luthor, quoting Hume and Epicurus, on Superman). I am very drawn to those stories on how we can do good without having perfect knowledge of what good is. When Urobuchi places these questions into a magical girl anime, he purposefully decides to uncouple the idea of âhopeâ and âjusticeâ with personal happiness. In most stories, characters are rewarded for choosing to do the right thing; we assume that any selfless act naturally makes you more at peace with yourself (with good reason, I think). But Urobuchi is preoccupied with the question of how we can separate goodness from good feelings. Do we know the difference? How would separating these concepts alter our moral choices? Is personal happiness what matters, or would we still do âgoodâ even if we were never rewarded for it?Â
This paper suggests Puella Magi Madoka Magica should also be read in fairytale terms (making an ill-advised deal with a creature whose intent you canât sense). In that case, the message is against making decisions without weighing the implications, and to make that point, it has to move these characters into an environment where there are no failsafes against their actions. Even if they think theyâre doing the right thing, even if it is the right thing, that does not mean the world or the cruel people around them will reward them for it, narratively, materially, spiritually. PMMM takes magical girls seriously, coding them as soldiers in a war they believe is justified. It then uses their journey to talk about how our beliefs about our own goodness can blind us to unintended consequences. It is difficult to balance the idea of goodness against our imperfect understanding of it, but knowing a bit about Urobuchi, I think that is what he intends.
It could also be that PMMM interrogates kindness specifically because it goes unquestioned in other magical girl animes. By using magical girls as the thematic vehicle, âkindnessâ becomes weighted as perhaps one of the socially accepted reasons why girls in this genre might admit to wanting power. Their good intentions cloak what could be (not necessarily is) a more ambitious, selfish (or self-actualizing) desire to ensure their actions have meaning. And when youâre caught between what you say you want and what you really need deep down, that creates the necessary conditions for someone to take advantage and give you powers you donât understand, as happens in PMMM. Itâs the rush to bargain parts of themselves away that could be truly troubling.Â
I think what PMMM wants to know â as other deconstructed superhero stories have â is how we can wield power without constantly questioning ourselves. Is doing kindness worth it, even knowing that cruelty will always grow too? This is something that superheroes need to have an answer for, and by the end of PMMM, one character thinks that the answer is YES. Maybe thatâs foolish, but thereâs something gritty and inspiring about a lone figure trying to stand against a cruel world, a world that will never give them any recognition for what theyâre doing and may very well kill them. Berserk does something really similar; the main character is probably crazy, is fighting a hopeless quest, but he has devoted himself to becoming a weapon against utter chaos and meaninglessness. It costs him his humanity, in many ways, but thatâs one way of creating an ubermensch, a magical girl, a folk hero. Itâs as if these series press all the life out of their characters and say, âNow, NOW, you are worthy of that power and that respect, when you are no longer in the equation at all.â Itâs probably based more in the still nirvana of Eastern philosophies and religion, the complete erosion of the self. Again, thereâs something like ⌠awe-inspiring about that, even if it ends in disaster for them. It commands respect because there are no alternate reasons they could be doing this anymore. They are martyrs to an ideal that doesnât even make sense in a world where kindness and cruelty are always one-upping each other. There doesnât seem to be a point. But the characters who stare it down and do it anyway are interesting. It makes us consider a new way of doing things ourselves, to strive to face down the worldâs problems and wrestle with our own preconceptions about it. And if these hero figures give up or adjust their tactics, then thatâs important too, because they humble themselves enough to recognize that some of their very good actions can be disastrous for others. Without complete omnipotence, they can never know what the downstream effects of saving one person over another will be, so a big dose of humility is something they have to have to handle the weight of those choices.
PMMM also explores this through upsetting imagery and explicit gore. Horror can be a genre that punishes deviant behavior in characters (teen sexuality often being a target for horror film serial killers), but it can also be a way of exploring motivations that seem in tension with one another. The brutality might be a way of showing the anxiety we - and maybe girls in particular - have about whether we are doing the right thing for the right reason. It might not be literally true, but we feel that we have to test it. Maybe the answer of âI want to keep helping peopleâ even after going through such horrible violence means more than it did for this character at the beginning. The character accepts that she is not doing it for personal glory or vanity or for fun. She may get no tangible reward out of it, but she still believes itâs worth doing. It might not be pointed âpunishmentâ the narrative is doing, but rather a generalized kind of suffering, something that strips away all possible naivete, which gives the character an almost iron will that proves they are worthy of the power. From the Urobuchi quote tying his themes to terrorism, it also seems like the series is showing a straightforward modernist skepticism against metanarratives where your values come pre-wrapped for you. There are strands of thought that see all received morality - like religion, tradition, âgut instinctâ - skeptically like this, believing it always leads to blind obedience, fanaticism or selfish righteousness. I donât agree with that necessarily, but I do find that thereâs a worthwhile place for stories that try to see whether a hero or a certain type of moral system is recognizable after taking it apart and testing it intensely. It can be reaffirming once youâve put it back together, or, if itâs more of a grim, uncomfortable narrative, it can raise questions that can help us better articulate what our non-negotiables are.
In Psycho-Pass, the characters, who are mostly police officers, are constantly forced to compromise their beliefs, and they have to navigate their roles in an oppressive, dystopian system that often seems to overwrite free will, where people are imprisoned whenever their emotions are âcloudedâ or heightened, which the system believes makes them more likely to commit crimes. Some of the characters come to the conclusion that the system might be âfor the best,â or that itâs a necessary evil for the time being. Itâs deliberately uncomfortable, but I donât find it nihilistic. It explores the world from multiple perspectives, so thereâs not one correct response that the narrative supports. Every episode basically raises an increasingly complex moral quandary for the human characters to deal with, while the central computer system that runs the country makes the final decision for them. So it asks things like, who are the victims in a world that judges your likelihood of committing a crime based on how upset you are? Is it ever a kindness to put someone out of their misery? Is murder worth it if it helps humanity regain its agency? By doing the unthinkable, are we actually allowing ourselves to think? It explores these questions by evoking and discussing famous philosophers and writers at length. The characters with the purest, most rigid morals tend to not do well in the system because they see it as grotesque and alienating, and they either wind up killed or exiled or unwillingly subsumed into it, losing parts of their identity. The most successful characters are the ones who can adapt and use cold calculus to fight the system into deadlock, or the ones who just go along to get along. In this world, âdoing goodâ is constantly being diluted into a utilitarian calculation, and the series says so much about censorship and complicity without feeling like itâs saying thereâs no point to trying to solve these problems. The fight is always an option. The charactersâ sense of justice is their own, even if they cannot execute it, even if they are frustrated by their own doubts and the implacable force theyâre up against. Itâs a great series, and I kind of want to check out PMMM now that I know itâs the same guy. I think in general he approaches his work as someone who doesnât have the answers. Some people wonât like narratives that just generate constant questions and seemingly offer no solution, but maybe that is better than being given the wrong answer. It wants you to fight to find the answer through experience.
I doubt Urobuchi is saying ânever tweetâ or ânever care.â Even giving into nihilism is too didactic, too simple, for someone questioning everything. He just wants to probe things until they seem not very appealing, and then ask if you still want it. And even if we reject that as a false choice/dichotomy, it still helps us articulate that and helps us accept that our choices do have consequences we canât always see. And to be at least humble and open about that. Very modernist.Â
Anyway, you might like Psycho-Pass because it never pretends itâs going to be anything other than a grimdark cyberpunk story, so itâs less of a bait and switch. Another âdarkâ magical girl anime is Princess Tutu, which takes you to the brink of tragedy and allows the hope to shine all the brighter because of it. I love Princess Tutu so, so much, itâs sort of meta about the art of stories and whether life will ever be as perfect as our imagination can be, and while it can be harrowing, itâs absolutely a kind series that gives so much power and weight to emotions and stories and healing and being seen and ahhhhh. It sounds like it does much more to reconstruct itself and align with the genreâs true themes than PMMM does. And in general I prefer those kinds of stories; I think movies like The Last Jedi or Batman v. Superman did this wonderfully, but some people donât want to be taken on that deconstructive journey in the first place, especially if they donât know where it will land by the end, especially if itâs a genre or a world they already love because it already makes a positive case for the thing and doesnât need to endlessly question and doubt itself. Anyway, without seeing PMMM I can only guess at what itâs attempting to do. Iâd have to experience it myself to see if itâs successful or not, but I think it will almost change the viewing experience if you know going in that itâs going to do this.Â
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Why Jujutsu Kaisenâs Deaths IS Good Writing
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Iâve seen this brought up a lot on Twitter, the argument that Gege Akutami doesnât know how to write and the deaths were just lazy writing. This argument stems from My Hero Academiaâs Paranormal Liberation War (PLW) and Jujutsu Kaisenâs Shibuya Incident (SI) being out around the same time. This will be discussed for anime only as Iâve only watched the anime for both. Spoilers for both.
Without diving too deep into what PLW was about, I will explain only the things that are important to what I will discuss. Class A-1 has about 20 students and their teacher Shouta Aizawa, this means all 20 students along with a fellow class and other pro heroes were involved in this war against the villains while SI had Yuji Itadori alongside his classmates Nobara Kugisaki, Megumi Fushiguro, Maki Zenâin, Toge Inumaki, and Panda. With the students with Utahime Iori and the sorcerers. Akutami makes it very clear that they are not afraid of killing off characters. What made me very nervous was the fact there was an extremely high possibility for my favorite characters to die, which some did. The characters in the PLW are packed with main character armor which doesnât make me feel much fear for them as in the end none of the fights scared me.
Satoru Gojo being sealed into the prison realm is what makes the viewer afraid, without one of the most powerful characters out it raises the stakes. Having main characters be on the chopping block is what makes writing unpredictable, a popular argument is that the writing is simply just a shock factor which I donât agree with, While the deaths were shocking, they served some amount of purpose, for example, Junpei Yoshino who died in season 1 of Jujutsu Kaisen. Junpei served as the first of Mahitoâs victims related to Yuji Itadori. An important thing to take into consideration when talking about deaths in Shonen anime is that there needs to be something at stake, something that makes you feel afraid for the characters. Whenever I see a villain on screen I feel an instant rush of fear for the characters, take the scene in episode 18 of Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 where Kento Nanami is fighting the transfigured humans at the train station. With half of his body being burnt there's a sense of fear, then Mahito appears behind him. That scene was beautifully done as we see Nanami fighting until he canât fight anymore, the pause as relief rushes through your body until Mahito is shown then Haibara is shown. Itâs a pretty realistic scene if you ignore the curses and fictional elements. Now compare that to watching the fight between Fumikage Tokoyami, Keigo Takami, and Dabi in PLW.
There wasnât any fear considering it becomes painfully obvious that the stakes arenât up when the âgood guysâ are constantly given plot armor and win every fight with little to no long-term damage as Keigoâs wings work again after a while.
During the Hidden Inventory episodes with young Satoru Gojo, Suguru Geto, and Riko Amanai, while yes Rikoâs death was very sudden at that moment, it served as a starting point for what is one of the best-written origin stories. This will be a completely different post but Rikoâs death holds a long-term effect as it kickstarts the downfall of Suguru Geto from his cult to his death in Jujutsu Kaisen 0. Now compare that to the death of Jin Bubaigawara in PLW whose death only starts Himiko Togaâs mental breakdown and a realization that she and her friends could very well be next but it holds no other importance after her fight with Uraraka and Asui afterward. While Iâm not trying to praise Gege Akutami as a writing God itâs important to take in the factor of death holding long-term importance in a series.
Another good example is the fight between Aoi Todo, Yuji Itadori, and Mahito. During the fight Aoi cuts off his hand after being touched by Mahito, therefore removing his ability to use boogie woogie later on in the story aside from the one he did by clapping Mahitoâs hand in what could probably be in my top 5 moments in Jujutsu Kaisen. Moments like Nobaraâs death hold some importance to the characters and act as motivations rather than just something to get a gasp out of viewers. Itâs easy to say that Nobara and Nanamiâs deaths kickstarted the snow scene between Yuji and Mahito, showing a very new side of him.Â
In conclusion, I donât think the writing for Jujutsu Kaisen is lazy. I believe that killing off characters is something that should be seen as good rather than fully negative just because your favorite character died. If you enjoyed this then yay, if you didnât then feel free to give me your opinion in the comments. Again, if there was anything said that wasnât true then do let me know. Have a great day.
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what's your favourite thing about jgy as a character? đŤ
honestly there is so much i love about him as a character that it's hard to put it succinctly into writing but i shall try my best!!!!!! (and caveat of course that i am mainly going off of what cql i have seen and the various metas i have read about the canon overall.)
i think my first point of love for him is how great his propensity for love is!!! while it does lead to him getting hurt, i think it's also a very important part of his characterâa lot of the things he does are to help those he loves/to shield them from harm (be it personal love, such as for his mother (in building the guanyin temple so she is honoured in death in the way he wasn't able to ensure in her life), jl, lxc, qs, nhs, etc, or his love for the common peopleâbecause yes, i would say the care required to want to improve the lives of the average person, say via the watchtowers, does require love at least in some measure), and i personally find that a very compelling and engaging trait.
secondlyâhis determination! in every way possible, he started off at a shockingly large disadvantage to those around him, both from the circumstances of his birth and upbringing to the way that those around him treated him, but despite that, he is able to become someone who is, if not loved by the jianghu, at least seen as competent (i would say the common people probably do respect him for the changes he makes in his time as the jin regent(? not sure if this is the term that is ever used in canon but given that it's clear jgy is leading the jin in jl's place while he's too young to do so himself it is the best one i can come up with)âthe watchtowers, yes, but also how he changed the expectations and standards within the jin sect, like making it clear that anyone who accepts bribes will not be tolerated (i don't have the sources for this one on hand but i'm fairly certain there's evidence on your blog somewhere).) the fact that he was able to rise to the position he eventually held is not coincidenceâit took careful application of his wits, the skills he honed, and the relationships he made and risks he took along the way.
and of course, i absolutely adore his dynamic with lxcâobviously this isn't a jgy-only topic, there's two pieces in play here, etc etc, but if i don't talk about it i feel that i'm doing him a disservice, especially with how much he himself clearly values lxc's companionship, regard, respect, and affection. i don't think that, given canon, it would ever have been possible for them to be anything "more" than what they were, but i think that, in those years in between the end of the sunshot campaign and the final stand at the guanyin temple, they found happiness in each other, and even if that happiness was finite, i believe it is incredibly important, especially given the actual real importance of their presences in each others' lives (lxc being one of the first people to treat him as an equal, jgy sheltering lxc during sunshot, their mutual parts in the downfall of wrh through jgy's spyingâi think it's safe to say that if either of them were anyone else, it would not have workedâ, jgy's support in the rebuilding of the cloud recesses and lxc's relationship and sworn brotherhood with jgy realistically going a long way to legitimise jgy in the eyes of the gentry, just to name a few).
finally, i love him because he is small and i want happiness for him forever and nothing bad to happen. that is all your honour, thank you for your time.
#ask#ask meme#this all got very long and i apologise for the wait i kept going over and rewording things and trying to make sure that#i didn't commit some sort of esoteric and horrifying grammatical error#HOPEFULLY this is all composed correctly and i didn't miss a word or sentence anywhere#c.txt
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I really canât believe you really thought I was just âtrying to get on your good sideâ thatâs not not ever has been the case. You said you thought I was genuine.. a genuine person. I AM. I always have been. I have not lied to you at all about a WORD I said. I have no reason to lie. Literally no reason at all. Itâs clear you werenât really trying to get past what I did because you just keep deleting me and blocking me and playing these games with my head. I love you. I always have. I still do. I forever will. Stop and actually think. I only reacted that way that one time based off what happened. Iâm not going to get cheated on again.. itâs impossible. So I wouldnât react that way now. I have been so genuine to you this whole time. And for you to actually believe differently⌠the second something was brought up about you.. itâs a problem. When itâs me I sit there and keep saying sorry. I donât believe you loved me⌠if you did you wouldnât just keep getting rid of me so easily. Itâs so easy for you. Just a click of a button. I have been so good to you and you know it. Talk to me after my court date and you will see the same⌠that Iâm trying. And that Iâm not just trying to get on your good side. I just missed us. I missed what we had. I meant every damn word I said. Donât tell me I didnât cause you have no right to say that. I fucking loved you the very best I possibly could and I wasnât good enough. I thought I was at my worst before.. you gaslight me and you donât even realize it.. I take it. Over and over. I know you have pain that needs to be let out too.
I will NOT let you tell me I wasnât genuine. You really have no idea. As I donât with you.. you know how fucking good I was to you. Everything we had wasnât a lie. It wasnât fake. You FELT it. I didnât even have to say anything. You SAW how I looked at you.. come on now. Iâm only mad cause you actually believe your own thoughts⌠you arenât being realistic. I know you are gonna read this soon.. sometime⌠Iâm sorry. Iâm trying to put it ALL behind us⌠but I couldnât with a court date lingering. Sorry I even brought it up. I knew you were gonna react this way.. couldnât even take a break and come back to talk⌠deleted your whole profile.. đđ I really meant nothing to you. You donât realize how much damage you did to me too⌠how dare I make this about me though.. no matter how many times I own up to what I did. Once we talk about what you did itâs always a problem cause we already spoke about it ONCE. ME? Oh my shit comes up over and over. I feel you wanted my downfall and you did everything possible to make it happen. You wanted to make a man suffer like how you have been. And I was an easy target⌠why is it so wrong for me to have feelings about this? You cheated⌠that was the cause to all of this. In 90% of cases thatâs what happens⌠the person cheated on acts irrationally. The whole thing was avoidable. Iâm sorry. Iâm sorry. Iâm sorry. I canât say it enough. I hope you got the closure you needed.
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In adavance Iâm so sorry for this long ass bs I just have had so much on my mind lately and need to vent .
As someone who was recently larrie but has stepped away from that one thing I am gonna say is that not everything Louieâs say about larries is always right, one thing I will say is that there is a large portion of the larrie fandom that favours Louis, (I was one of them) hence why now Iâm a solo louie it was never an aesthetic or some cute thing for me Iâve always been in Louisâ lane from 2010 when they were made a band, (I didnât become a larrie until 2018 when I re-entered the fandom) one of the biggest flaws with the 1D fandoms, ot5/4âs is that if you are a fan of multiple of the boys you cannot have a favourite you have to support them all equally and the reality of it is for many that this is just not possible itâs one of the reasons I never called myself an ot5/4 (I also donât trust them what with the downfall of Liam this year and people acting all cool and claiming they never streamed his music I just know some of them are fake ass liars and donât stream Louis) purely because I knew I would never support the others like I support Louis, so I listen to some of them and their music, sure but thatâs pretty much as far as that will go with relation to other boys. So thatâs a huge flaw because people within ot5/4âs fandom and then even the subfandoms expect equal support which is just never gonna be given unfortunately, now Iâm not making excuses Iâm just trying to show that nuance and balance is never a possible thing among a fandom like this that has far too many opinions and fandoms.
So much about the larrie fandom has bothered me for years, the caring more about proving Louis and Harry are together rather than just listening to what they have to say/sing the digging around in the backgrounds of interviews to prove they were in the same location, the accusing them of lying constantly (yes they do it to both of the boys, a lot more to Louis because unfortunately heâs had the burden of denying things and having to lie over the last 12 years all while Harry has sat back and never confirm nor denied anything) oddly enough his lack of denial or confirmation somehow makes larries trust Harry and what he says more than Louis, but I took a step away from larrie Twitter and made a solo louie account recently just before FITF dropped actually I kept my larrie account cause a part of me still rooted for L&H but honestly since the whole promo for FITF (not to mention FITF has very little of any songs that link to Harry) started my viewpoint on Larry crumbled, there was so much but the biggest thing was everytime Louis dropped something or something positive happened for him boom there HSHQ were dropping another kind of bomb whether it be a new single release, a new music video or the bloody holivia breakup dropping the same day just an hour or so after Louis got his first ever solo no.1 in the UK and guess what it completely drew away the entirety of the attention of this amazing milestone for Louis and shifted the focus to Harry yet again (as I said balance is not realistic when itâs a fandom trying to balance liking and supporting 2 artists equally & his team time things just right after something with Louis happens never before not to mention Louis had like no coverage of the no.1 but guess what holivia breakup articles were everywhere funny that) and it was after that I completely lost my patience with the fandom and with Harry and his team. While I donât think Harry directly makes these decisions to do these things he definitely doesnât stop his team from doing them and that is enough for me to be fed up. At first I thought it was odd and would get sus when something would happen with Louis and right behind something would happen with Harry but I thought that it may have been a coincidence but something that many larries will often say is âthere are no coincidences in this fandomâ who knew that would come back to haunt larries, so yeh after that I was like yeh there are no coincidences that being that there is a blatant effort from Harryâs team to overshadow everything Louis does. Some people may shake it off but I just canât anymore whether itâs from Harry or not heâs ignorant (or atleast acting ignorant) towards it and I donât like it I just lost so much respect for him lately and donât understand how people canât see the obvious coincidences between them. Theyâre promo nearly always has overlapped, Harryâs album released back in May with one single itâs not a coincidence they waited until the last quarter of the year to release a 3rd single. The difference in morals is another thing Iâve noticed, while you have Louis on one end saying things like âticket prices are too high and I donât want to bring in a certain crowdâ to Harry who blatantly again is âignorantâ to the cost of his concerts youâve also got Louis being thoughtful of fans trying to include them in everything always thanking us (heâs literally written songs for the fandom or been inspired by the fandom for songs!) and then youâve got Harry who well, walked into oncoming traffic to escape fans đ (and yes I understand neither of them owes us anything I actually agree wholeheartedly sometimes I think we donât deserve the love we get from Louis) but in the end we do get it and I feel if they truly were âso perfect for eachotherâ their actions would reflect that and well one of them isnât reflecting that at all.
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#answered ask#anon#i didn't want to post this sorry sdladjsalkjda#but then i thought you typed all this and it wouldn't be fair#so here it is#weeks later#as i clean up my ask box#this blog is a safe space to bash larries and harry#larries
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Hi! I sent an ask regarding Moneypenny yesterday and I kinda wanted to expand on some of my frustrations about how sheâs treated in fandom and in the movies. Obviously people are drawn to the ships theyâre drawn to and as much as I love 00Q it annoys me that so many people just never consider Eve to be a romantic/sexual being even with the rapport and chemistry Bond and Eve have throughout the last 3 films. I donât think itâs intentional but I canât help but think that if Eve were played by a white woman the response to her would be very different. And I know youâve spoken about this but the whole sassy best friend to Q thing that gets projected onto her grinds my gears. Also! I think the decision in skyfall to introduce her as a field agent and then give her what essentially is an admin role at the end of the film pretty much marked the beginning of the downfall of her characterisation. First of all, to bring ~realism~ into this for a sec, I doubt a former field agent at MI6 would then become a PA because those roles have very little to do with each other and theyâd be massively overqualified. I understand they wanted to bring back the classic bond tropes and Miss Moneypenny the secretary is one of them but it makes no sense considering her experience. I would have liked to see her get some kind of technical role, not dissimilar to Tanner maybe. You could still have the office Moneypenny/Bond moments while updating her role to reflect the place of women in the workplace today. And the optics of a woman of colour being removed from her former position to become a secretary for an old white dude is somewhat cringe as well. Also! I feel like this might be a suuuper unpopular opinion but to me if they wanted to introduce a new love interest in Bondâs life post Vesper, Eve would have been my pick instead of introducing a completely new woman like Madeleine. 00Q is my everything but realistically they were never going to make that canon in a Bond film. I know by doing that a lot of the plot points would have to change, but if weâre purely focusing on relationships in Bond movies, I guess my reasoning is by making Eve a love interest thereâs the possibility of letting their relationship grow over several movies, provided you have writers who know how to handle the banter mixed with the sincerity of their relationship well. I think it would also be a very different kind of relationship to the one he had with Vesper which was hard and fast and tragic. Itâs also why the arc with Madeleine fell so flat because they were essentially forcing it down our throats in their attempt to maybe get a Vesper 2.0. and I really like Madeleine! I guess as a whole the tradition of introducing a new Bond girl in every movie really puts a cap on how fleshed out the women in this franchise can be because itâs still a model that treats women as accessories.
These are all such excellent points, thank you!!! I'm going to ramble, so if you're someone who's had enough of my views for the time being, I'm sorry. Feel free to skip!
The Bond/Moneypenny relationship is an interesting one to consider long-term, because really, until the Bond franchise ends (like, ends ends, with no 'James Bond will return' I don't see it happening in canon. Though if it was going to happen, I think Naomi Harris' and Daniel Craig's iteration of the characters were the perfect ones to do it with. That's honestly where I thought they were going with it in SPECTRE for a hot minute, because they had that exchange during Bond's car chase in Rome where he (quite possessively) asks who is in the background of Eve's phone call, and she tells him to try living life for a change. I don't think she trusted him at that point to settle down or to give her what she needed, but it's so interesting to consider what might have happened if he tried for her instead of Madeleine.
But then - and I've made this point in a few of my 00Q fics too - I don't think James was really looking for life or stability as much as he was looking for escape and a holiday at the end of that film.
I want to zero in on the sassy best friend bit a little, too, because I think it's sort of inevitable when you have a woman in canon who's a friend of one or both of the male characters people ship in fandom. I'm not against her being there as a friend, or even being someone for whom Bond or Q can talk to about the ⨠romantic drama â¨. My problem starts when writers won't even attempt to understand her character or give her a voice of her own. I'll occasionally read a fic and think, "I could take this dialogue and ascribe it to any random female character, and it would do the same job. Why is Moneypenny here?" That's when it feels like erasure to me.
And, look, I'm fully aware by saying that, I'm inviting scrutiny on my own work. But, God, I've spent ages trying to make her sound authentic and fully-formed as a character - despite canon doing away with all of that - because I think she deserves it. If I've failed, it's because I've lacked the skill to do it, not because I haven't tried!
Anyway, for all of that, this is the thing across all canon and fanon that grinds my gears the most: the optics of a woman of colour being removed from her former position to become a secretary for an old white dude is somewhat cringe as well.
I'm about women (women of colour especially) living their best lives in whatever ways they want to. If a friend of mine decided IRL that she wanted to take a step back to a desk job for her own sanity, I wouldn't bat an eyelid (assuming I know any secret agents lol). But the Bond producers/writers introduced a woman of colour as a key, iconic character in a franchise that's known for being racist, sexist, and is grasping at straws to fit itself in a post-colonial, post-imperalist world...and that's where they went with it? Grim. When the representation hardly exists in the first place, the optics of it what you do with it matters. I think Eve's character shows up the Bond franchise for how much it struggles with modernity. The line where Bond essentially asks her if she's cut out to be a field agent still makes my blood boil ten years later. There's a discussion to be had about Nomi here too, but I'll leave that for another time.
In doing some research about the real postwar/Cold War MI6, I found out that women who had job titles as "secretaries" were sometimes not secretaries at all, but highly-trained translators and interpreters. Some of them handled information that was too confidential for most agents. That's where I tend to see Eve (though obviously in a more modern context). By the time NTTD rolls around and she reveals her knowledge of the Obruchev debacle, she fits nicely in that space between an administrator and someone who everyone trusts with some absolutely huge state secrets, and who is often enlisted to help deal with it all.
But then I think about her doing the jobs of three men and I just...well, I get grumpy again.
Okay, I've rambled enough! Thank you for the ask, Nonnie đ
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Jackady: The importance of the father-son hug scene
One of my favorite Adrien-Gabriel moments to this day is still the ending scene of "Jackady" but I have seen more confusion for it than clarity in the Fandom so here is my analysis on it for why I love it so much. Because as the seasons go by this moment sustaines so much more significance that I simply HAVE to talk about it!
While it isn't the only Adrien-Gabriel scene that does it, I adore this scene because it shows perfectly that in the beginning their little, broken family could have made it out of this tragedy stronger and maybe even better but the reality that Adrien and Gabriel are also Chat Noir and Hawkmoth not only hinders those chances, it actively drives them further apart into destruction
Maybe one day I'll give all my thoughts to the entire scene and just go on a rambling post about it (because I love EVERYTHING about this scene) but for now, let's just focus on the main aspects that really sell it to me.
I give Gabriel alot of shit on my blog for obvious reasons. I refuse to generally give him the same positive and conciderate treatment as Adrien, Marinette and the other kid characters because unlike them HE is an adult, a father and the villain of the show. The adult and villain part I'm not taking too personal because those are "just" the traditional aspects of his character type. But what is incredibly unique about him is the fact that even if he is this evil villain type he still gets to be the realistic type of abusive and (truly) bad father with sympathetic moments like this:
This moment of shock and fear is not something you would normally see in a family cartoon from an evil parental figure the child longs to bond with without setting the parent up for redemption. But as we now know by s3, Gabriel is only getting increasingly worse and more abusive and Adrien is starting to let go of his father to move on without him and defying his will. It's quite clear now that their future will not be anywhere near good, "Chat Blanc" showed us what's to come.
And this is exactly why I love this scene. Because, yes, this family will go up in flames and never truly reconcile ever again (Gabriel went WAY too far for that in the way he abuses/will abuse Adrien) but the show doesn't shy away from showing us the transitional phase in between which really not alot of media dares to. Normally when they stay enemies or their situation doesn't end in an at least somewhat forgiving way this transition is simply mostly skipped to not having to let the bad parent have realistic and sympathetic moments in their downfall into madness/villainy (especially with their victim).
Miraculous does and it's beautifully tragic because you can just... SEE the situation unfold and understand where the eventual fate of the family comes from.
The pure misunderstanding between these two in this scene, the way they just talk RIGHT PAST each other because the other one can not understand the problem cuz they don't know the secret identity of the other one is... brutal!
This moment here could have worked for them. It could have been a genuine step forward in their relationship and saved their family but it got completely CRUSHED by their secret identities as Chat Noir and Hawkmoth.
Let me show you what I mean:
THIS is a moment I AM giving Gabriel genuine credit for, because you can turn it any way you want it won't change the fact that, for his situation, THIS was the right question to ask his son. But at the same time it's just such a... horrible thing to say here oh my GOD.
And that's the ugly, UGLY beauty here.
If Gabriel weren't Hawkmoth (if someone else were Hawkmoth so the situation would still have happened) he would not have reacted to the fucking ring. He would have thought nothing of it and had remained focused on Adrien, because that was his original intention (problematically executed but that's beside the point now).
After Gabriel got himself in life threatening danger because he didn't listen to Adriens concerns, he went to him to hug him as apology. THIS is Gabriels way of apologizing and trying to make up for his faults. He's obviously not good at verbalizing his feelings properly and at normal interpersonal dynamics in general. So what he does is trying to make his feelings known in a... "material/physical" way. This does not only show through Gabriel just buying the best things for Adrien without ever being there for him, it also shows in the way he physically interacts with his loved ones when he genuinely wants to show his love. Because for how seriously antisocial and unreachable as he normally is, he also gets... quite touchy.
The shoulder touch thing Adrien does as well to show his affection for someone, him hugging Adrien both times he got a wake up call and literally everything thats happening between him and Natalie at this point lol.
Him hugging Adrien here is just as much of a big deal as Adriens expressions make it seem to be
But the father-son moment couldn't last because the villain-hero alter egos interfered. Gabriel being Hawkmoth rightfully stopped the moment here, because reacting to even the slightest chance of your own child being the hero you try to destroy is undoubtedly the right way to handle this (even if the way he did it wasnât ideal, that's not something I would expect from any character in that situation), but nevertheless it still utterly crushed the moment.
Cuz just because it is the right thing for HAWKMOTH to ask his son Adrien who he fears COULD be Chat Noir, doesn't it mean that it is anywhere close to okay for Adrien/Chat Noir to hear this very question in that moment from his father who he thinks as a normal civilian in this.
And Adriens expression once again makes this perfectly clear
(You know the offense just reached an other dimension when the kid, who is already well aware and used to their fathers emotionally painful ways, makes a face like THAT)
Cause here is the thing. We all know by now that Adrien has some serious self esteem issues and that while he tries to over play it (especially as Chat) he just doesn't hold himself in high regards or even likes himself very much. Hence why he goes all out on the acting as Chat Noir and doesn't defend himself much.
But just because he doesn't like himself that much doesn't it mean he still doesn't want that very validation and appreciation from his father. Just like all of us and everyone on earth, Adrien wants to be loved for himself, even if he doesn't/can't do it himself. Thats normal and is something that can deeply damage you when you don't get it from your own parent/s.
So tell me, do you see why Adrien was so CRUSHED when in probably the first time since his mother's disappearance Gabriel gave him the genuine and all present love he wanted for so long, just for Gabriel to cut their moment short and FOCUSE ON THE RING?
The one thing on Adrien that makes him become "someone else" so he can escape from having to be himself for a bit.
And for Adrien it now seems like that in his own fathers eyes this ONE thing Gabriel shouldn't even know could be anything special about if he weren't Hawkmoth, is the ONLY thing worth noticing about his own son so it catches his eyes.
It tells Adrien right to the face that nothing Adrien was and did to make his father happy up to this point measured up with Gabriels expectations. All of Adriens efforts, his patience and his hopes of earning his fathers love and happiness if he only does well enough, literally in vain. It wasn't enough. It's wasn't enough for Gabriel to notice in comparison to the ring apperently.
From Adriens view you can interpret it two ways:
1. Since earlier Gabriel also took a closer look at Chat Noirs ring Adrien now thinks correctly that his father is seeing his new ring as a sign that he could be Chat Noir. This would mean that in Adriens eyes Gabriel would have cut their moment, an action of validation and love Adrien has longed, worked and patiently waited for so LONG, short and basically forgot all about Adrien himself because there is a SLIGHT possibility that Adriens ring means he COULD be Chat Noir. His own father literally choosing his secret identity over his civilian one as Adrien, the son Gabriel had for 14 years, is beyond crushing. And while it seems strange for Adrien to take offense in this because, well, he IS Chat Noir so what the big deal? The big deal here is, again, that as Chat Adrien is literally trying NOT to be himself. He uses the opportunity of being an anonymous hero to escape from having to be Adrien Agreste in every way he can. Gabriel throwing aside the son who is literally standing in front of him and who did his darn best to be there for him in his own time of grieving his mother to basically only focus on Chat Noir (a person Gabriel in the end of the day shouldn't and doesn't know) possibly being his son, is such a fucked up scenario to throw onto Adriens already low self esteem what the actual fuck.
Or 2. That Adrien simply takes his father choosing to focus on his "simple" new ring out of all things as a clear "I see nothing else worth noticing in you, so to keep this conversation up I have to grasp at straws so I guess I'll be taking about your new ring".
No matter how one chooses to interpret the moment, it's equally as much of a "fuck you" either way. I know Gabriel could have said worse here, but honestly, the list isn't that long.
So when after this Adrien reacts like this:
It should really not come by any surprise. Although, no, it is kind of surprising. Surprising that Adrien didn't react alot worse than this. What Gabriel just threw at him is like the verbal equivalent of a loved one reaching out for you with a hand so they can caress your cheek but the moment you lean in they follow it up with a punch to the face.
It shows just how well Adrien has his emotions under control and is able to stay level headed under such great offense that THIS is the level of irrationality and anger he expresses after basically being out right disregarded by his own father (which should be of no surprise either, as Chat Noir Adrien has to put up with a whole lot of disrespect as well and there he for literally 95% of the time has to shrug it off as well).
But no matter how bad Gabriels line here was, it has nothing and I mean NOTHING on the awful way Gabriel then decides to react to Adriens appropriate but still very mild response.
Because THIS is the moment that sets up Gabriels betrayal and downfall as both a person and especially as a father. Up to this point Gabriel was a horrible person as well, no question. The entirety of s1 he already worked as Hawkmoth, manipulating people, putting them in great danger and planning the demise of two teenagers with sadistic glee. But still one has to acknowledge the difference in these two situations.
In one Gabriel is hiding in a secret lair, manipulating people he thinks beneath him to do the dirty work for him and fight two anonymous heros he just wants to get rid of to reach his goal. Gabriel is taking so much pleasure out of terrorizing Paris and it's people because he legitimately doesn't give a single fuck about them or holds any kind of personal connection to them either. He never goes outside and is very antisocial so these people and their city mean nothing to him because they ARE nothing to him. His (self chosen) isolation and lifestyle pretty much disconnected Gabriel from real life and a normal way of expressing and receiving human emotions. So when there are no emotional stakes for him personally, he sees no reason to not satisfy his villainous desires as Hawkmoth.
So as odd as it may seem to say, him terrorizing Paris prior to this is not the point of crossing the line for his character. For that it's simply to impersonal.
No, the point of crossing the line happens here with Adrien. With Gabriels character things will always come back to Adrien at its core. Adrien (not Emilie, Natalie or anyone else) is the person Gabriel temporarily truly gave up being Hawkmoth for and Adrien is the one person Gabriel has his most human moments with. Not even in his bonding moments with Natalie does he show the same deep and true (misguided) love and affection as he gets to with Adrien in those rare moments (its close no doubt but something about Gabenath is not as deep and true as this father-son pair and I can't imagine it ever will).
This marks the point of no return for Gabriel because it's the first time he chose to deliberately abandon Adrien in the crossfire and decides to be the villain towards him instead of staying there to talk things out with him. It's the first time Adrien truly had Hawkmoth as his father. And Hawkmoth is Chat Noirs ememy so Gabriel fell into that role without Adrien knowing why.
And there is a solid reason for that.
One of the best things of this show is that no matter how horrible things get between these two, things are always much more complicated than a simple "evil father doesn't love his good son" situation. Gabriel calls Adrien "the image of perfection" in this very episode, that's sure as hell not hate or dislike in any way. That's love, that's adoration. This man ADORES his son. And this is were the deep rooted problem lies.
Gabriel loves and adores his SON. The ideal and perfectly perfect son Adrien could become when Gabriel is done forming him into it by suffocating any "imperfections" with an iron fist. It's just that these "imperfections" are always the characteristics that make Adrien ADRIEN. Gabriel may truly love his son but I'm not even sure if Gabriel even so much as LIKES Adrien himself.
And this is perfectly showcased by Gabriel turning away from Adrien in this very scene here.
Because even though Gabriel literally disrespected, shut down and belittled his son for the entire episode he still came to see and hug his Adrien afterwards because he loves him. But HIS Adrien, the perfectly perfect Adrien Gabriel wants him to be, wasn't the Adrien he met up with in his sons room. Instead he got an Adrien with a ring on his hand that could be Chat Noirs, making him possibly one of the two enemies he's trying to destroy.
Adding salt to the "wound" Adrien even backtalks him in a way that undoubtedly reminded him of Chat as well since Gabriel pointed out Chats temper in this very episode.
So Gabriel was very directly confronted with the possibility that Adrien could INDEED be Chat Noir and that naturally comes with the implications that Adrien deliberately disobeyed Gabriels orders accepting that ring, sabotaging Gabriel reaching his goal and in general doing everything his father DOESN'T want him to do BY CHOICE.
And here Gabriel made the decision that marks the point of no return, setting up the devastatingly horrible way this man is treating and will treat his son in the future.
Because this is the moment Gabriel SHOULD have chosen Adrien over his mission. The sheer possibility, no scratch that, even the SLIGHTEST TRACE of a possibility of Adrien being Chat Noir should have immediately made Gabriel take action to save and protect him. Because it's not like Chat hasn't been constantly in dangerous, life threatening or even situations that ended up in DEATH. If Gabriel would truly love ADRIEN his quest would have ended right here, stopping the upcoming horror this family will face before it could have really begun (hence why this was shown to us in an episode of s1, the season where Hawkmoths identity was still unknown. If Gabriel had stopped here not even WE would have known, leaving Gabriels name untainted of Hawkmoths crimes as the Agreste family finally moves on and Hawkmoth dissappeares as suddenly as he appeared.)
because Adrien and his health and life should not be a price Gabriel is willing to risk paying for his goal.
But Gabriel didn't do that.
Because instead of Adrien Gabriel chose the potential perfectly perfect son he wants and turned his back on the one standing right in front of him. Cuz remember what Gabriels goal IS. He wants to change the past, so non of this ever happened in the first place.
Meaning Gabriel turning his back on our present Adrien doesn't mean that Gabriel outright hates Adrien now by the next second cuz he dared to disobey his orders like that. But it means that Gabriel is choosing to separate these two Adriens in his mind, making endangering, hurting and working against THIS Adrien more of a collateral damage than actually hurting his own son. THAT son, the one Gabriel convinces himself he is fighting for, is waiting for him in the past alongside Emilie.
This separation was probably always there since Gabriel started trying to change the past hence why he justifies Adriens unhappiness and the way he abandones him as necessary sacrifices.
But the real separation started HERE, this marks the first time Gabriel just left Adrien behind in a position of complete and deliberate endangerment, knowing that the possibility of Adrien being Chat is still there but choosing to say: "if he indeed is, then that's an obstacle I will have to overcome."
This separation has been developing slowly but steadily through s2 and 3 right to "Chat Blanc" which tells us the future. Me elaborating on this "separation development" though became longer than I want to put in this post, therefore I will go into more depth about it another time.
So let me continue with this:
Adrien is like... Genuinely not even angry. More deeply sad.
He was appropriately and truly hurt when Gabriel only started talking about the ring but once Gabriel turns around and walks away? He looks after his father but more in a way as if he is waiting to see if Gabriel would actually take so much offense in him backtalking him to legitimately LEAVE like this. And Gabriel does.
Adriens intentions wasnt to make his father leave, When he talked back at him it was more of a hurt call out for Gabriel to say more, SOMETHING ELSE, but not to LEAVE!
Adrien then does something very common for people in a fight who wait for the leaving person to turn around again but have to realize that they hope in vain and the other person actually is done with this moment.
His face and body relaxes, he turns completely to the door and seems to... take it in.
Especially in the way Adrien does it here its like he is processing and accepting that what he thought of his father was wrong. Adrien thought Gabriel cared enough for him that he would want to stay even if he backtalks him for example. Adrien expected a conversation here but now had to realize that his father isn't gonna put up with him at all or their differences in an upfront way if Adrien isn't "behaving right". Gabriel will just cut the moment short and deflect whatever conversation with him he doesn't like.
All in all what Adrien took away from this moment with his father is even if Gabriel may care for him (enough to come and hug him as an apology) this care and affection is tightly bound to the way Adrien himself then reacts. If he reacts in a way Gabriel doesn't like he will very quickly deem Adrien undeserving of his affection and take it (and his entire presence) away again.
The way Adrien looks then at his ring also makes me think that he definitely blames himself for how this moment ended. That he "shouldn't have overreacted" and taken such personal offense by his fathers attempt to reconnect with him even if Gabriel hit one hell of a sore point.
This is of course BS. Even if Adrien wasn't Chat Noir the way Gabriel just straight up deflected the conversation to the ring right after the hug, where one normally starts to explain oneself and truly TALK, would have been seriously hurtful even under non-miraculous circumstances.
But it shows how Adrien by instinct immediately starts to invalidate his own feelings to look for the faults in himself. A self-hurtful coping mechanism that unfortunately only gets deepened as the dynamic between these two continues on.Â
And lastly it also marks the first time that the ring is truly associated with something bad. Normally (especially so early in the show) the ring stands in association with Adriens freedom and spending more time with people outside, him getting to let loose a little and how he can spend time with the girl he loves. The ring began to loose these positive associations more and more from s2 onward but the first time was here.
It's the object which ruined the moment that could have ended this tragedy before it truly began in both of their eyes and in the viewers. Sure Gabriel being Hawkmoth is the true cause of it and nothing will ever change that but it's Adriens ring, not Gabriels brooch, that sets their separation further in motion. Further as Gabriel initially intended to.
It's the factor Gabriel overlooks Adrien himself for, which is truly brought home by the end scene of "Gorizilla" which serves as a mirror to this one here.
Whereas in "Jackady" Gabriel lost sight of the son right in front of him because of the ring and what its implies, in "Gorizilla" Gabriel thinks he finally received the evidence that Adrien isn't his enemy. So for the first time Gabriel completely disregards the ring, Chat Noir out of his mind, sees ADRIEN for himself and genuinely smiles at him. He can and does make a TRUE attempt at reconnecting!
Which is of course exactly what Adrien wanted for so long, what he hoped Gabriel would do if hes just patient enough with his father. He accepts Gabriels genuine attempt gladly, reassuring his father that he and his efforts are noticed, appreciated and wanted even after everything that happened so they can hopefully go on to a better future.
This is what would have saved this family back in "Jackady" if only Gabriel had chosen the right priority. But as I said before, this moment here happens in s2 after Gabriel crossed the line in Jackady, so this positiv moment can not save them anymore. Both Gabriel and Adrien are already too far in and influenced by their alter egos and the miraculous. So the brief reconnection couldn't last and everything continues to only further fall apart ever since.
And it all began with this beautiful, heartbreaking and tragic moment in "Jackady" these two will never ever be able to truly come back from again.
#miraculous#miraculous ladybug#adrien agreste#Gabriel Agreste#Chat Noir#Cat Noir#Le Papillion#Jackady#Gorizilla#ml scene analysis#one of my favorite scenes#I love everything about this#ml analysis#Family Agreste tragedy#ml sugar#hawkmoth#the beginning of the end for these two
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It's clear you were inspired by isekai anime, so why don't you allow for harem relationships in the game like in the anime they are inspired by? Especially in the context of kings and Queens, where having a harem was considered normal and even encouraged.
1) Because of coding and to save time for me. Seriously, it would be a bit too much for me.
2) Because I want my readers to have consequences for their inability to be decisive. Cant choose between the two so will instead choose both like as if youre in some anime? Hell no. Life aint so easy, and you arent choosing between normal people. Youll be choosing between the scions of this and that powerful families. Although some ROs may be fine with it.
3) As much as I love the anime industry, I actually personally hate the harem trope. It feels cheap, and noncommittal of the protag.
4) Possibly the biggest reason...because in real life, harems bred corruption and was the downfall for many an empire and reign. I've actually answered this before with relevant examples, but lets take the Ottoman Empire for comparison. To ensure an heir, yay harem, and yay sexy times. To ensure no rebellions and or funny business, after having an old enough competent heir, KILL THE REST OF YOUR SIBLINGS/SONS. And surprisingly this worked. But guess what sorta contributed to the decline and it's downfall for its meddling and machinations? The harem. Simply put, harems were in actuality extremely dangerous both politically and realistically. Another thing to consider...
5) Women have much more power in this story. Could you try to put the female ruler of one nation into a harem? What about the men? Could a general or lord be content with being in a harem? Do you really think love will make everything work out? *laughs diabolically*
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Let's play the speculation game and say McLennon was real. Going with the common idea that Paul dumped John in India, wasn't the "let's all be friends, write together and go on double dates with our wives" angle Paul seemed to hope for completely delusional? Why would someone with John's issues stick around and celebrate Paul's happiness with someone else after being downgraded?
I have great respect for Paul's decision of not being John's nanny/handler for the rest of his life. But I've always been annoyed by his inability to let the man go for good. Paul, you've made your choice, my friend. Enough with the sad songs about not being called back or turning up on John's doorstep with a guitar when the he was spending time with his own family. People hate that but some things in the world really are black or white. You can't have it both ways.
Why speculate when we know it was and is realÂ
Alright so, let me try to unpack my thoughts cohesively get ya tinfoil hats on yâall;
If we go with the theory that during 1967, when Paul and John were practically living together and conjoined at the hip, taking LSD together and sharing those intense and intimate experiences that even Pauâs girlfriend Jane had become envious ofâ John had come to the realization of what he wanted, finally acknowledged it and came to accept it.Â
So in India, John tried to confront Paul about their relationship and their ârelationship,â and openly admit to Paul that he wanted more, that he was now willing to leave Cynthia and Julian for a life he truly wanted or desired, and that included Paul (but to what extent is what we debate I guess)Â
And now that Iâm thinking about it, we also know John was sort of beginning to spiral downward in 1968. It was obvious his marriage with Cynthia was at itâs end, and he didnât want to work on it anymore. He was surrounding himself more with druggies, an unsavory crowd that Cynthia really didnât approve of (Yoko was part of this crowd) and he was actively pulling away. Â
I think John was realizing that, he just wasnât happy. That, putting everything he had into becoming one of the most successful musicians in the world, to become bigger then Elvis Presley, didnât make him happy. It didnât fix what needed fixing in him, what needed addressing. He was still drowning despite it all.Â
So youâve got the trip to India, the boys going in hopes that perhaps the Maharishi Mahesh Yog and his spiritual teachings would somehow give a new perspective on things, produce the answer that would save the band (save John and Paul) from what appeared to be an inevitable downfall. But as we know, that isnât what was needed.Â
John and Paul needed to talk. The lack of consistent communication between them for years and years, and the fact John needed a therapist, he needed rehab. So did Paul, during the White Album era.Â
I donât believe Paul dumped John, but I do think John could have easily misconstrued Paul taking a step back and not willing to just go blindly, impulsively jumping off a theoretical cliff with him, as being rejected. We know Paul had to sort of take the position of âthink before you leapâ, to be more conscious of the actions and decisions he and the others decide to take, and how it would effect them as individuals, and especially them as a band (because frankly the others wouldnât) and we know that John could be incredibly impulsive, only thought of the consequences after the fact. That, and whoâs to say such a proposition and confrontation from John hadnât scared Paul? Got him feeling those insecurities of his own crawling up.Â
Paul wanted a traditional family, he wanted to have a wife and children. But Paul also wanted John, he wanted and loved Lennon-McCartney, and he didnât think (or heâd hoped) him getting married and having a family would really change anything between them (because John got married and had a kid and they were still able to do go and do whatever they wanted together, so what was the differenceâ) that he could still keep what he had with John, that they could still stay together after The Beatles split. Get around to writing that musical, and grow old together still writing and making music, still creating together.
How I see it, is that Paul wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
Paul, being fine with keeping the status quo between them, it was safe and enough (right?), but John vehemently wasnât fine with it anymore, and it wasnât enough for him. Nothing was enough for him, as we know; John was a very all-or-nothing individual, and expected complete devotion and love from someone, because receiving less felt like rejection and abandonment was only around the corner. This way of feeling and thinking for John was only exasperated by the drugs, his alcoholism, and his spiraling mental health.Â
Paul could have tried compromising with John, and John still could have taken that as a complete rejection of his feelings and what he wanted, and what he had hoped and thought Paul also wanted.Â
I believe Paul probably didnât even know himself what he had done wrong, or that he did anything wrong. I donât think Paul believed he was downgrading John to anything either.
If only they had talked.
Then they returned from India, and the rest as we know it...
âTo me, a summary is something like: âgifted, disturbed boy with tremendous amount of drive to outrun a bad childhood discovers love for music and creative soulmate(s) and gives everything he has to become the most famous musician in the world, hoping it will make him happy. He does, but it doesnât, and people who donât have his best interests separate him from his friends, his creation and creative spark, and ultimately himself. Heâs too screwed up by addiction, mental illness, and unaddressed traumas to change things, so he retreats further into addiction and mental illness, wishing he could somehow regain his lost spark. He makes a few halfway steps toward doing so, but theyâre not enough, and ultimately he is killed in front of his apartment building where, 24 hours later, his wife installs the man she had been sleeping with behind his back.â"
â Michael Bleicher, The Artist as a Dissipated Man: Fred Seamanâs âThe Last Days of John Lennon.â
Right, so both John and Paul made their choices in life. Some choices and decisions that we as fans and outside observers might never be able to understand, or agree with.
But whoâs to say Paul (and John), couldnât, didnât, or donât regret those choices and decisions?Â
I get what youâre saying, I understand. Why canât Paul move on? He made his choices, why is it 40, 50 years later, that Paul canât just let John go? Let sleeping dogs lie, all that.
Because Paul loved John, still loves John, to this day.Â
Because, clearly Paul has some regrets. He regrets how things were handled during the Divorce. He regrets not hugging John enough. He regrets not telling John, when he had the chance and time, that he loved him (and without the help of alcohol) When you love someone so deeply, and suddenly, without warning, theyâre taken from you and the world, you regret a lot, and you miss what could have been, the âWhat ifâs.âÂ
Paul said that what he and John were, were soulmates. I donât know how it feels to lose a soulmate. I donât know if Iâll ever get to know how it feels to get the opportunity to love and be around them.Â
How awful do you think it is to meet your soulmate, but you cannot freely love them? Canât just, be, with them? Not in just one way, bestmates, legendary partners, but, as everything that the word Soulmate brings along and includes with it?Â
That God decided to have them be of the same sex, during a time where it was illegal to love and be with someone of the same sex, and could even be a potential death sentence to be assumed or thought of as a âqueer.âÂ
So, you take whatever you can with them.Â
Then that isnât enough. One grows restless, desperate for more. It canât happen, not realistically, not without consequences of varying degrees.Â
Strain, miscommunication to none. They communicate through a musical, artistic language which just isnât enough. Drugs, alcohol, mental illness and emotional turmoil, itâs all too much. It breaks. Soulmates are still flawed human beings.Â
You have people who work to purposefully pin them against each other. Parasites and piggybackers.Â
A nasty divorce and breakup between two lovers that never were.
And then, after ten years, itâs happening. You two are talking again, things are tense and awkward still sometimes, but somethingâs changed. Youâve planned on reuniting, couldnât do it this year, because the studio you wanted was booked. So you plan for after the New Year.Â
Then, your soulmate is killed. Just, taken away from you, like nothing. Violently and suddenly. And all the possibilities... The time... Gone. Ripped away from both of you.
I canât blame Paul for not letting go. I canât say Iâd ever be able to understand the sort of pain and heartbreak he experienced. He still goes through it! Itâs still there. Heâs just learned how to manage it a bit better.Â
Iâd say itâs more pathetic then it is annoyingâ and I donât mean it in a way to insult Paul. I really donât. Because John was just as pathetic when it came to his obvious obsession, desire, and love for Paul, too.Â
Love, that kind of soul-deep love, it can make you pathetic and hopeless. And itâs not something you can just... let go for good.Â
Wanting, or expecting Paul to let go of John for good... Firstly would be impossible, and secondly, how do you let go of a soulmate? John is a part of Paul, whether some like it or not. Canât really have one without the other.Â
Canât have Lennon without McCartney, and vice-or-versa. Forever intertwined, are they.
#questionsquestionsquestions#mclennon#beatles discussion/discourse#I think all I did was ramble again I'm sorry#this isn't even that good
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soâŚnow that we all know what you DISLIKE about star wars (and 400% fairly so, you have my full support here)âŚ
what drew you into the universe, what keeps you around?
favorite characters, ships (OTPs or actual spaceships lol), overall themes, do you have a favorite random weird creature or robot that you adore? whatever you wanna talk about!
go off honey (again, but supportively đđđ)
tax paid: the very nerdy star wars punk vest i made and the even nerdier matching vest i made for starsky
Lmaooo, entirely valid. You were like "star wars?" and I was like the drunk person at the bar who can't stop shouting about how much their ex sucks. But now that I have gotten all that off my chest, let's talk about why I love it (since if I didn't love it, I wouldn't have such strong opinions). Basically my feelings on the OG SW trilogy are similar to my feelings on the OG LOTR trilogy, as that tumblr post floating around somewhere put it: sure, they have flaws, but also, they're perfect. I have a complicated relationship with the prequels, as do we all, since George Lucas cannot write dialogue or direct actors to save his life (stick to what you're good at, George, hire other people to do the rest), but even they have their moments. Like. Hit me with that "Across the Stars" love theme, John Williams. Gahh. Just like that.
Because... Star Wars wasn't actually this omnipresent corporate global entertainment monolith when it started out. It was a dorky low-budget indie sci-fi film in the 1970s which everyone thought was going to bomb. But it told a simple and compelling story in an interesting way, everyone agrees that ESB is one of the best films/sequels ever made, and then ROTJ gave it a happy ending while it was still okay to do that. My main thematic gripe with the Disney trilogy (I will try to keep those to a minimum, lol, but I have to bring it up to compare) is that it very clearly fell into the "actual happy endings are naive and unrealistic and a cynical postmodern audience won't accept anything less than things being Bad" trap that, yet again, we have GOT to thank for. It obviously existed to some degree before that, but GOT blew it up to huge levels, where the only valid situation or character is that which is Grimdark and Depressing. Which, in my view, misses the heart and soul of what SW is all about??
Like. ESB is genuinely dark. ANH was this fun plucky little sci-fi film where the scrappy good guys won the day against the Nazi stand-ins, as they were supposed to, and then ESB comes along (speaking of John Williams, let us all chant together, DUH DUH DUH DUHDUHDUH DUHDUHDUH, DUH DUH DUH DUHHHH DUHHH DUHHH DUHHHH) and things go... wrong. Leia and Han are on the run for most of the movie, then get captured and tortured by the Empire and and betrayed (however unwillingly) by Lando. The Rebellion is attacked on Hoth (I tell you, those fuckin AT-AT walkers were SCARY when you see it as a young kid for the first time), and forced into hiding. Luke loses his hand, doubts Obi-Wan and Yoda and realizes that his mentors are fallible, makes dumb mistakes, and of course gets hit with The Most Famous Line In Movie History. But it's also just adrenaline and excitement. THE ASTEROID FIELD! THE HAN-LEIA BANTER! THE FIRST LUKE-VADER DUEL! THE FACT THAT YOU HEAR TWO FRICKING NOTES OF THE IMPERIAL MARCH AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE OH YEAH OH YEAH OH YEAHHHH!
But also then... Return of the Jedi. It gets shat upon for the Ewoks and reusing the Death Star as the Big Bad and being supposedly cheesy and not as Thematically Dark as ESB. Which is all kinda silly, in my opinion, but also, can we talk about Luke Skywalker's character arc and how he chooses possibly the most radical compassion ever demonstrated by a hero in an action movie, let alone a space opera. He insists that Anakin Skywalker is still in there somewhere and puts his own neck on the line to prove it. Luke doesn't save the galaxy by being a Badass Jedi. He saves it by throwing away his lightsaber and saying "I will not fight you, Father." He saves it by trusting that even in the depths of darkness, Anakin can come back from the charred ruins of Darth Vader and finally do what he was supposed to do all along. He can end Palpatine for good and all (we don't talk about "Somehow Palpatine has returned" because it's nonsense, obviously). Anakin can avenge the Jedi and what was done to him and all the lies he believed and the pain he wreaked on the galaxy, even then. It's not too late. It's not too late. Like. I don't care if this is Lightweight or Childish or whatever. It makes me CRY every time I watch it. Especially the moment where Luke takes off Anakinâs helmet and sees how ruined he actually is under there, and yet the downfall and death of the trilogyâs chief villain is not triumphant at all but instead utterly heartbreaking. âYou were right about me Luke... tell your sister... you were right.â
Excuse me, I need to just /CRIES INTENSELY/
Luke won't be tempted to the dark side for his own sake, but Leia's ("If you will not join me, then perhaps she will"). I likewise hold firmly that Anakin/Vader is one of the best movie villains/antiheroes of all time and likewise have many feelings and Strong Opinions about his arc, prequel writing clumsiness and eye-rollingly tepid love story aside. (See: he and Obi-Wan were deeply in love and in a way they still are, don't @ me. I have no problems with Padme and obviously stan Natalie Portman at all times, but Anakin and Obi-Wanâs relationship is the real love story, the heart of the prequels, and in some ways even the subsequent movies, the end.) And âso this is how democracy dies, with thunderous applauseâ is... raw af as a line. For being in a Star Wars prequel movie. What?? (Also, the Revenge of the Sith novelization had no business being as good as it was. If only that dude had also written the movie.)
Anyway, my point is: the OG trilogy had plenty of moments of staggering emotional weight and where things genuinely sucked for the good guys and the outcome wasnât entirely clear. The difference is that it didnât choose to dwell on them, and it allowed for a transformative fictional space where a happy ending, fiercely fought for and squarely earned, was the right outcome. We didnât need to go back thirty years later and make everything suck for fear that a cynical modern audience couldnât connect with it otherwise. (Like I said, we didnât need the new movies at all, but Disney heard that Cha-Ching of the Almighty Dollar). Star Wars was sci-fi, sure, but it also had the fantasy elements that allowed a happy ending to be the right choice for what we saw the characters go through and the philosophy that carried us through the original trilogy.
Likewise itâs just... Peak as far as dynamics go. C-3PO the fussy metal butler who worries about Everything and R2-D2 who is the droid embodiment of YOLO? Flawless. Sassy scruffy space pirate and badass politician warrior princess bicker constantly, butt heads, drive each other crazy, and then fall in love? Iconic. (And has shaped my ship tastes for... all of eternity, oops.) The above-discussed transformation of Luke Skywalker, whiny ordinary teenage kid, to the truly great man who fulfills what Obi-Wan, Yoda, AND the rest of the entire Jedi order couldnât manage to do, because of their own flaws and blind spots and black-and-white moral views that didnât know what to do with a man who loved as passionately as Anakin Skywalker, for better or for worse? The guy who managed to save the galaxy with love? STAN.
So... what? The Disney trilogy decides to retcon all that, throw everything that theyâve fought for out the window, make Han, Leia, and Luke miserable and rejecting the roles they grew into in the original trilogy, and die without ever really reuniting or seeing each other again as a trio? The underlying message was that âthese happy endings arenât satisfactory/realistic/sophisticated enoughâ and idk, maybe itâs just the shitshow of the last few years, but Iâd like to see some entertainment that had the cojones to tell me that despite all the darkness and despair, maybe thereâs a chance for hope. (âRebellions are built on hope,â thank you Only Valid New Star Wars Movie Rogue One.) And Rogue One worked so well, despite being utterly GUTTING as all the heroes died one by one, because we knew what was coming next (A New Hope) and that their sacrifice was going to be worth it. I donât care if thatâs ârealisticâ or not. As Iâve said before, thatâs what stories are for, and if I only wanted things that were Real Life, I would only read the news. Besides, the idea that happy endings never happen in reality is equally bullshit. We as a culture need to accept that more, instead of finding reasons to tear everything down.
So just... yes. The original trilogy might have flaws, but also, itâs perfect. And do I want to rewatch it all now? Kinda.
(Anyway. I warned you this was gonna be long. Oh look, itâs long, and Iâm sure there is even more I could say, but still. Ahem.)
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I know this is very nitpicky, but what do you think is the level of awareness Griffith has during the stairwell scene? For a very calculated and rational guy like him, it's hard to imagine that he hasn't even tried to decipher where these strong reckless reactions come from. I mean... even king of denial Guts has reflected a bit on it. Enough to ask Griffith about it. I know yoy mentioned in a recent answer to an ask, that you don't headcanon Griffith as pining, so would you say that you (cont)
Would you say that you imagine that he compartimentalizes his thougts and represses to the point that he doesn't aknowledge at least to a certain extent, that his feeling for Guts are more passionate, than what he feels for other comerades. The fact that he fully realises the depth of those feelings once Guts leaves is clear. But Idk the stairwell scene makes me think that he is at least aware, that he has a bit of a crush, but choses to not give it much importance. Curious about your thoughtsÂ
hmmm. okay first off I just want to say that I can see multiple possibilities, from full on repression and denial, to recognizing his attraction but not acting on it, to knowing he cares for Guts and wants him as a True Friend(TM) but often downplaying that because he believes Guts sees him mainly as a superior officer. But yeah I do prefer the denial and compartmentalization explanation and I want to go into why, because I think itâs fun to talk about lol.
So the big reason I read Griffith as refusing to acknowledge his feelings to himself is because thatâs how he deals with all his other inconvenient feelings, like his guilt and fear and the fact that he cares about the Hawks. Like eg when he tells Gennon that he doesnât feel a single emotion about him whatsoever, or when he tells Casca that he doesnât feel guilty over the deaths of the Hawks, I donât think heâs just lying to them, I think heâs convincing himself too, to the point where he really believes it.
Itâs sort of hard to explain how I see this working in Griffithâs head bc it feels v intuitive to me but I know thatâs not the case for everyone. So yk itâs not that I think he like, eg makes himself forget that he nearly had a breakdown in a river, but I think he doesnât ask himself why he nearly had a breakdown beyond maybe a shallow âsex with gennon was unpleasant and made me uncomfortable for a couple hours but iâm completely fine nowâ and doesnât think about it afterwards if he can help it.
And when he tells Charlotte he doesnât have any friends and tells Guts he belongs to him during the second duel, I think heâs telling himself lies/rationalizations he genuinely believes there too. In fact, I think his denial of his own feelings is straight up meant to be his tragic flaw, which is why heâs only able to finally acknowledge them in the torture chamber, after itâs caused his downfall.
In the torture chamber we see him remember the face-off with Zodd and acknowledge that it was an irrational thing to do and wonder why Guts is so important to him, and I think part of the reason the monologue works so well is because itâs the first time we see that kind of self-reflection sans lofty rationalization from him, because before he ended up trapped in his own brain for a year with nothing to distract himself in between bouts of torture he didnât really ask himself these kinds of questions. If he had, things probably wouldâve gone better for everyone.
And like, I donât think this makes Griffith less intelligent, or negates his rationality in other areas of life. I donât see a contradiction in someone being able to analyze a battlefield or read other people well but avoiding genuine soul searching whenever possible and lying to himself a lot. I think itâs actually pretty realistic - I donât think very many people fully understand themselves or their feelings, even really self-reflective people, and itâs very easy to rationalize away inconvenient cognitive dissonance. and I include myself in that lol.
Griffithâs life is kind of a contradiction that would really fuck him up to untangle (he sends people to their deaths to achieve a dream for the sake of assuaging his guilt for sending people to their deaths to achieve a dream), so he doesnât try to untangle it, he avoids the question and hides behind a philosophical ideal. And his feelings for Guts add to that cognitive dissonance because if he values Guts over the dream, that kind of proves his entire defensive life philosophy is bullshit and his whole life plan is built on a precarious house of cards, so it makes sense to me that heâd avoid examining those feelings closely too.
And you can look at Guts too, who does navelgaze a lot and tries to analyze his own feelings and motivations - when heâs faced with a contradiction (I want to become independent of Griffith and do my own thing solely to gain Griffithâs approval) he actually notices it and briefly questions himself... and then he still puts it out of his mind and continues pursuing his contradictory goal anyway, and manages to stay in denial for 3 days even after learning that Griffith ended up in a torture chamber because he left.
Along those same lines, Guts eg realizes that he kills things because it makes him feel better but he doesnât make the connection between his irrational urge to fight powerful enemies and his childhood trauma the way the readers can, the King didnât acknowledge his incesty feelings til Griffith shoved them in his face, Count Slug kept denying having human feelings til Puck went on a tirade against him and he couldnât sacrifice his daughter, Casca lies to herself about her feelings for Griffith for a long time before finally acknowledging sheâs in love and then doubles down on her Griffith feelings when her newer feelings for Guts threaten them until she has a breakdown and admits some things to herself (I mean I find that last one disappointing lol, but itâs also a really straightforward example of someone living in denial of romantic feelings and therefore a good comparison point to show that Miura does this on purpose), etc. So I think this interpretation of Griffith is also consistent with how Miura just like, tends to write people.
Like imo Griffith has moments where he comes close to self awareness and couldâve started potentially reflecting on his feelings and coming to better, more accurate conclusions, and those moments definitely include the Zodd conversation (as well as the river scene with Casca, and âdo you think Iâm cruel?â) but none of those scenes lead to useful self-reflection because they all go wrong. Casca tries but fails to reassure him bc sheâs out of her depth, Guts reminds him of his dream, the King interrupts their conversation and Charlotte reorients Griffith towards his goal so he can move on from that moment of irrationality and refrain from thinking about it further for a while. Even after the duel Griffith tries to avoid self-reflection by fucking Charlotte imo (âtake all the sad and frightening things and cast them into the fireâ ie hey girl wanna repress some shit w/ me?), and imo his previous ability to do that makes it all the more impactful when it doesnât work this time and he breaks down.
BUT YEAH all that said I donât think this is the only reasonable reading of Griffithâs awareness of his feelings lol, itâs just the one I like best and consider the most satisfying and interesting and fun to think about. And honestly thatâs partly because I love dramatic irony and have a real thing for characters who lie to themselves, so Iâm biased in favour of it too. Nothing about Griffith being good at denial contradicts the idea that he could still be aware of an attraction to Guts (in that case heâd probably just write it off as irrelevant and deny the associated internalized-homophobia-related self-loathing lol until it all pours out while heâs projecting at the King), and he could eg be aware that he irrationally cares about Guts above and beyond anyone else and just doesnât even try to reconcile that with his dream, ie compartmentalization in another way.
But I think the idea that he only fully admits it to himself in the torture chamber is just very narratively satisfying.
#Anonymous#ask#griffguts#ty for the question and giving me an opportunity to go on about this#a#b#character: griffith#theme: coping mechanisms#theme: repression#ship: griffguts#headcanons#character thoughts#arc: ga
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!! You have ADD too! I'm just starting out as a business owner myself, and I also have ADD. Honestly, for awhile I thought my forgetfulness would be my downfall. I love what you do for your customer base as well as being able to support your family, and it gives me a lot of hope to see someone else overcoming it and still running a business that's growing and seems to be pretty on top of things! Do you have any advice (especially for managing executive dysfunction and forgetting/losing things)?
Ah, I do! Hello! đ
So I was just barely diagnosed a couple months ago, so before that I was just an untreated undiagnosed mess lol. I was just constantly stuck in a cycle of setting goals, struggling to stay on track and then thinking "what the heck is wrong with me". That diagnosis made my whole life make sense.
The only way I could make anything work is finally asking for help from people after a few years (my mom started working for me and she keeps all my paperwork straight and administrative tasks on track). I definitely suggest trying to get help as early as you are able to. Paperwork/legal stuff/taxes is definitely what I have the absolute hardest time dealing with, so I just get as much help as I can afford. Before I had help with emails/paperwork/keeping track of things, I did struggle a lot.
But just in general, I learned that I need to set more realistic deadlines for myself and be as upfront as possible with people about how long things take me to do. Most people are super understanding! Before I constantly set deadline that were just impossible for me to meet because I had no sense of time management or a real understanding of how long things take to do lol đ¤Śââď¸
But some more things I'm working on are making lists of EVERYTHING. Everything I have to do, every person I need to get back to, etc. My therapist also has ADD and her advice to me was to get a planner that let's you write things down to the hour of each day. Set a schedule and keep yourself accountable to stay on track. If some things don't go as you wrote down, that's okay, life happens. But if things are constantly going nothing at all like the schedule, reevaluate and try to change things around so they work for you. Also, keep the planner with you at all times, and write down everything in it that you have to do! If there's a big task you need to complete, write it in your planner, but also write it on sticky notes and stick them everywhere so you don't forget.
So basically, I'm still learning, I'm still trying to manage! It's definitely hard, but I think it's super worth it.
Another thing is that I tend to get lucky that when I get big bursts of energy, I can almost always direct them toward work and use it to get a bunch of things done. I think that's pretty much the only way I've been able to do this so long đ
But I wish you so much luck and happiness my friend! You can do it!!
And thank you so much for your kind words đ
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Vexed has however decided to speak on Ironwood. ... Guess how that goes.
âIronwood is such a cartoon villain! Look at how he is framed!â
This would mean a little more than jackshit to me if this was real or at least not coming a RWBY watcher since the latter would be all about manipulative editing and the later I might believe wouldnât need to be handheld through a basic scene but not only is Ironwood a fictional character in a fictional show where youâre trying to invoke emotions in the audience: The RWBY fandom canât analyze a scene worth shit unless someone walks on screen and literally explains everything. And Vexed himself is such a manipulatve liar that heâs even LESS trustworthy.
Not to mention Iâve seen footage of Hitlerâs speeches and the responses- you can go a few levels deeper in reality itself. Not really that cartoonish to me.
âThey thought they made him a villain at the end of Volume 7 but failed miserably!â
A. Judging from the reactions and how Ironwoodâs defenders were half made up of people whoâd side with anything they think is the opposite of what the writersâ intended- Iâd say they did the job perfectly fine.
And B. This is exactly what I was talking about. The fact that someone didnât roll out a fucking flowchart of his character you immediately started interpreting Ironwoodâs downfall as a failure to make him a villain. You literally took basic ambiguity necessary for good writing and twisted it to make things look bad.
Youâre the fucking reason why RWBY is blunter than a stonerâs cigarette.Â
âThey ACCIDENTALLY made him compelling!â
... You do know the commentary you are quoting doesnât say âwe tried to make Ironwood not compellingâ in any form right? All theyâre saying is âwe wanted to make Ironwoodâs descent into villainy understandable and subtle.â In fact, the writerâs job is suppose to be about making the villain compelling so they likely INTENDED on it.
... You mixed up âcompellingâ and âsympatheticâ didnât you? That either means you donât know what those words mean or you have an incredibly narrow view of villains.
Also I gotta love that âOh, he was only making hard choices and yet heâs a VILLAIN?!â. Not only does it ignore that villains are made by their choices, bad things can happen due to good choices and that itâd be thematic SUICIDE to portray Ironwood as in the right while kicking the more moral Ozpin for his actions-Â
It also showcases youâre just a salty Ironwood fanboy. You didnât consider how he got here as a character or what makes sense for what he represents- You got pissed your headcanons of a character was contradicted so you pitch a fit. I know this because you pulled this shit with WEISS before.
âIsnât it strange that Salem was used to set up Ironwoodâs ultimatium?â
No. Ironwoodâs flaws as a character have always been centered around his reaction to Salemâs existence. He acts unilaterially when he believes Salem is close by, his paranoia flares up when Salem is concerned, his stubbornness is the result of glorifying Salem as this nigh unstoppable evil that must be stopped at any cost.
Of course heâs at his lowest when Salem is there: this once in the background ultimate evil is now making public moves, everything is stacked against him and he sees other peopleâs ways as having failed. Why wouldnât he dig in his heels when faced with such a situation considering his character?
âIâll be doing a video on Salem at the end of this Volume-â
And I know itâll be as much of a failure as all the others. You could literally release a video of you saying âRWBY badâ for ten minutes sand get the same reaction.
âLetâs focus on James, who was the best character in the show-â
Subjective and shows your bias AGAIN.
âWho was the focal point of Volume 7-â
A. Thatâs actually more him and Ruby but you arenât the type to pay attention.
And B. You are now acknowledging the existence of his actions in Volume 7. You cannot try to say his descent wasnât explored unless itâs admission you didnât understand Volume 7.
âThe man who hasnât done much of anything in the first half of this Volume-â
That is such bullshit I donât even know where to start?
He caused the events of Volume 8 to play out. He contacted Penny, setting up her own doubts about her decision, he used Watts to make the virus that setup the climax, he denies the heroes access to resources thus preventing them from attacking Salem, he puts them on edge from his orders to arrest preventing the heroes from openly acting-
Heâs pulling as much weight as RUBY here and Iâm honestly insulted.
âThe man who is now just a crazy cartoon villain.â
You know, this reminds me of a comment I saw once. It was about Persona 5â˛s villains and how everyone said they were cartoon villains too. ... I then proceeded to point out how each one was actually pretty realistic when you actually look at reality.
Kamoshida? Replace âGym school teacherâ to âRich manâ and you have Jeffry Epstein. (Who didnât commit suicide)
Madrame? *jabs at RT*
Okumura? He was based on real life Japanese business tycoons and their actions.
Shido? Literally every US politician.
Same applies here, but even worse. Ironwood descended from a high perch due to very serious circumstances, doing all this in a misguided attempt to protect people. A certain senile President did similarly shady shit...to protect himself.
You canât call âcartoon villainâ to a man more understandable than REAL PEOPLE.
âMake a decision- Mantle dies or Mantle dies! HOW STUPID!â
Completely ignoring how they believe they can still save Mantle...and Ironwood is using that to try and force their hand.
Literally anyone who tries to be manipulative does that. And again, I understand him better than...well, everyone who HAS tried that.
âI would have respected him more if he just blew up Mantle-â
So kill the tone of the show, the main conflict of the past two Volumes AND his characterization as a pragmatist?
Someone check Vexedâs foot and make sure itâs still there: heâs shot it so many times now.
âExplain to me why he wonât just let Mantle evacuate?â
Heâs incredibly stubborn, mentally scarred and physiologically compromised? AKA his CHARACTER?
âIRONWOOD ISNâT THINKING! RWBY BAD!â
Itâs the fucking INTENT to show he isnât thinking. All youâre doing is proving the writersâ competence at this point.
âRuby should have just said Penny was in Mantle-â
To the guy whose immensely unstable at this point, saying âHey, my only bargaining chip is in that place you donât care about where you can possibly get the chip by killing Penny and finding who has the Maiden powers now!â?
Sounds like youâre the one missing more than half a brain.
âPLAN FAILED!â
Yes, your plan did fail because My IQ isnât in the negatives.
âI love how the writers thinking that Ironwood acknowledging heâs slow-â
... You took a look at this scene, with him looking like that, with that music, with the context of his character, with the question of his character, with Winterâs look at him...
And came to THAT conclusion?
... Yeah weâre done here. Iâm not giving any more effort. Iâve clearly given a Herculean amount of it compared to Vexed.
Iâll end this with a quote from one of my favorite Bad Religion songs:
Life is the crummiest book I ever read There isn't a hook, just a lot of cheap shots Pictures to shock and characters an amateur
Would never dream up
Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction
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Visus CĂŚcus
Focus: Eret
Genre: Spooky Season
TW: Blood and injuries
Pairing: Platonic Fundy and Eret
Wordcount: 6283
Read it on AO3 here
Note: This is part of a trade with the glorious @strawberry10â !! They have my whole heart and this piece has been a work in progress for maybe a month now. Itâs only fitting I post it so close to Halloween :)
The crunch of decaying leaves and broken twigs mixes with the soft chirping of birds. Sunlight peeks through the leaves, sending shadows across the path and illuminating the forest and accentuating the vibrant green of the foliage. On such a perfect afternoon, the forest is lovely. Tranquil and perfect--almost too good to be real.Â
A soft breeze rustles the canopy followed by the scutter of a squirrel climbing a nearby tree. Everything is serene⌠virtually untouched by humans despite the man-made path twisting through the forest.
It goes for ages, disappearing through the trees. Where it goes is impossible to tell with the way it turns. Undergrowth stretches over the brown trail, small bushes encroaching as young saplings reach across--a strain for sunlight.Â
Laughter breaks through the peace and the crunch grows louder. Shoes tread along the footpath, ignorant of the bugs that scuttle out of the way. Two people walk along the trail, bags on their backs, and dressed for a hike. They were chatting, entertaining each other as they made their way down the path.
One of them nudges the other, grinning as if they had just said the most clever thing. The other, a brunette, rolls their eyes with a small smile.Â
âCâmon Eret, you know Iâm right!â
The brunette--Eret--scoffs. They shove the man back, just enough to make him stumble. âYou are not. Thereâs no way thatâs even possible!â
âWhat do you mean?!â He exclaims, eyes wide with shock. "I'm always right! I'm literally always right!"
"Fundy," Eret deadpans.
"Yeah?"
They stare at each other, quiet for a moment.
"How the fuck are peanuts meat?"
Fundy can barely contain his laughter as he tries to explain, âbut they are! Theyâre literally meat, theyâre with meat on the food pyramid. And, AND! They basically have the same protein. SO,â he points at Eret, âcheckmate.â
âThatâs not how that works!â Eret protests. âThatâs not how that works at all! Just because theyâre with the meat doesnât mean shit!â
Fundy hums. âUh-huh, sure.â
âTheyâre a nut!â the brunette whines. âThey have nut in their name, theyâre not âpea-meatâ!â
The ginger chuckles, covering his mouth as the other tries to argue. It was clear Fundy wasnât going to back down from the dispute, he had no intention to let Eret win, even when they had a point. Besides, heâs not dumb, he knows they arenât meat. Itâs just fucking hilarious.
After calming down enough to talk, the points to Eretâs pocket. âGet your phone out, prove to me they arenât meat!â
âFine! I will!â Eret fumbles with their shorts and pulls out their phone. A couple of seconds pass followed by an âaha! They arenât meat!â They began to triumphantly read the blurb, far too confident over the fact that they won the debate. âPeanuts do not come from animals. So they are not meat. Although they are called a nut, they are not... a nutâŚâ they trail off, a small frown appearing. âThe peanut is a legume, related to the pea family.â Eret huffs and turns off their phone, shoving it in their pocket.
Fundy cackles, the sound disturbing a nearby bird. With a flurry of black feathers, it flutters off.
âItâs still not a meat,â they grumble.
Fundy steps closer to them, grinning as he pokes their shoulder. âBut theyâre not a nut~â he coos, clearly proud of his victory. If it could even be called that.
Eret rolls their eyes and shrugs the man off but the upturn of their lips is a hint of their amusement. They were enjoying the back and forth--it was far better than the two walking in silence. After all, they werenât too sure theyâd last a week in the woods if they didnât have the sort of chemistry for lighthearted banter.
The two found the forest a week ago just driving around town and immediately decided to explore it, especially since theyâre visiting Fundy for a couple of weeks. What could go wrong anyway? Itâs just a forest in the middle of nowhere.Â
Though there were times as they were getting ready that Eret thought about some of the⌠warnings theyâve seen. They never took them seriously, but they always found the posts interesting.Â
They were warnings about going to certain places in the dark or at night--warnings about the things that stalk the cornfields of the Midwest or the forests around the world. Hell, even the creatures that lurk beneath the surface, just waiting for a ship to pass by to take without a warning.
As the two continue, Eretâs mind wanders. It drifts to the text posts theyâve seen and just how serious they seem. They were so detailed and specific, it made them start to wonder if maybe there was something behind them. Thereâs no way someone could come up with those warnings and make them so realistic without having something to back them on.
One that wonât leave them alone is a caution about the forests. The number of times they read it⌠they had it memorized at this point.
Start traveling during the day, it is always asleep by dawn and it will leave you be.
Never move at night.
Stay on the path at all times.
Never set a campfire outside of a designated area. It can smell the smoke and it will find you.
Always travel with a group. Never go solo. If someone gets injured, never leave them alone.
When the forest goes silent, stop moving immediately.
If you donât, the crowns will come. When you see the crows, it sees you. Stop talking immediately, find a different way to communicate. It can mimic your voice.
When the crows swarm, run. Do not let them injure you. It can smell the blood.
If you stray from the path, find it again as soon as possible. The longer you are off the path, the more likely it will find you.
If you can't find the path, never stop moving at night. Rest during the day, run during the night. It hunts at night and if you stop, it will attack.
Keep anyone injured close, never leave them alone.
If you hear someone call for help, do not go to it. Itâs a trap.
Eret shakes their head to clear the thoughts. There was no reason to be thinking about the list. The paranoia is stupid. It was made to scare people--a short thing for the niche group of people addicted to horror.
They're on a hike with their best friend, not on an exploration trip to try and get murdered by some forest monster. Whatever that forest monster is.Â
The thing is only ever referred to as "it".
But the reassurance that it's fake doesn't do much to calm Eret's nerves. If anything, it leaves them anxious--wondering if maybe⌠just maybe it isn't fake.
No, stop. It's fake, it's literally fake. Why the fuck would this stuff be real?? They think. It's just a forest.
The absence of their friend next to them is what makes Eret pause and look around. So caught up in their thoughts, they didn't even realize Fundy stopped walking. Turning, they find the ginger frowning, brown eyes staring at something obscured by the trees.
"Fundy?"
The man raises a finger to his lips, shushing Eret. Slowly, he points to his ear and glances at the brunette. "Do you hear that?"
Confused, Eret looks the same way Fundy is. When greeted by nothing but trees and chirping, they shake their head.Â
"Listen closer," Fundy insists.
Eret glances at Fundy, slightly concerned but curious nonetheless. They fall silent, this time trying to focus on the noises around them.
At first, there is nothing but the regular ambiance of the forest. Nothing out of the ordinary.
A few more seconds pass before they finally notice it. A rustling--faint and distant. It only grows louder, almost as if itâs approaching. It puzzles Eret, making them frown slightly as they comment, âWhat⌠is that?â
Fundy steps closer and squints into the trees. His hands wrap around the straps of his bag, his quizzical expression mirroring Eretâs feelings.Â
âI have no idea.â
The two stand there, watching. Maybe if they were thinking straight, they wouldâve continued. But not everyone is bright, are they?
Itâs the first crow darting out of the dense tree line that makes them jump, the bird squawking and frantically flapping its wings. Eret watches it, mouth agape as they stare. Confused, they canât pull their gaze off the struggling bird.
They donât even realize the shuffling is still getting louder.
Eret points at the bird and turns to Fundy. âYouâre telling me we got scared by that?â Thereâs a slight smile on their face that only falters when they realize Fundy isnât smiling and is instead still looking at the trees. âFundy?â
The ginger doesnât respond and instead backs up. Slow at first, speeding up within seconds as he grabs Eret. âMove, MOVE!â
Eret doesnât get a chance to react before more birds burst from the trees. Their screeching is quick to overwhelm the two as a couple of birds turn into ten, then twenty, then a giant shrieking mass.Â
Feathers are everywhere, flying around as the crows swarm. They twist and turn, diving around as they grab each other with their talons. They rip each other apart, spraying blood and guts everywhere. The cawing never stops as bodies drop to the hiking trail, the hot crimson liquid misting the two humans as they try to get away.Â
And then the birds turn their attention elsewhere: right on the two.
âGO GO GO!â Eret cries, throwing their hands in Fundyâs direction. They make contact and manage to shove the man, forcing him to turn around and book it to the trees. Heâs able to get his arms over his head to protect him from the birds. Eret, though?
They werenât fast enough.
Crows latch onto them. Peck them, claw them. Their clothing tears under the sharp talons as Eret tries to swat the frenzied animals away. Panic gripped them and completely emptied their mind of conscious thought. It left them running off instinct, and itâs their downfall.
It only takes a couple of heartbeats for the crows to start digging into their skin. They shred the brunetteâs shoulders, drawing blood under their sharp claws. Eret cries out and frantically tries to rip the birds off.
But a slash to their cheek is what utterly terrifies them.Â
They donât even hear Fundy shouting at them to run.
Some of the birds stick to their upper body, but others go for Eretâs head. More specifically their face.
Razor-sharp claws do their work. They make the brunette finally start to try and cover their face. Even with the birds in the way, Eret did what they could, trying to force the animals away. But not before the most excruciating pain theyâve ever been in radiates from their face.
A blood-curdling scream tears through their throat. High--full of terror and agony. Their hands were on their face as the birds kept coming. But the simple touch only makes it worse, stinging every open wound they touched. Made Eret lower their hands only for them to come away hot and sticky. Bloody.
Eret stumbles back, shaking and terrified as the birds keep coming. Theyâre quiet, trying to back awayâŚ
Another slash to their face.
The world goes black.
They can't stop screaming.
Hands grab their shoulders and drag them back. Eret struggles to stay upright, feet catching on roots and bushes. They fumble around, frightened. They canât tell where theyâre going or whoâs holding him or whatâs going on. Their hands shoot out and grab onto a tree. Nails dig into the bark, break under the pressure.Â
A whimper falls from their lips as they continue to be pulled along.
But the birds are gone.
Eretâs pulled along for a few more paces before theyâre stopped. They stumble, lightheaded and sick for reasons they donât understand. All they know is the feeling of something trailing down their cheeks. Blood⌠tears⌠a mix? Itâs everywhere.
Arms wrap around them, stabilizing them. A soothing voice follows the action.
âEret⌠Eret listen to me, I need you to listen to me.â Fundy. Their friend. âEret please, look at me.â
They turn slightly, blindly following the manâs voice. Itâs dark⌠Why is the forest so darkâŚ
A hand guides their head, making them turn a bit more.
âOpen your eyes,â Fundy says.
Itâs then Eret realizes theyâve been squeezing their eyes shut the entire time. It hurt so much to open them. Like something is stuck in them, stabbing their eyes every time they try to look around. They reach up, pressing their hands to their eyes only to gasp. The shock of pain that rushes through them is enough to make them let out another small whimper.
The hand never leaves their face and Fundy tries again. âEret, donât- stop. Donât touch them just open them, please.â
Eret shakes their head.
The painâŚ
Itâs horrible.
Theyâre shaking at this point, arms now wrapped around themselves as they lower their head. They donât pull away from the touch⌠instead, they lean into it a bit.
The only soothing thing in the world of agony Eretâs living in.
âEret⌠please,â Fundy begs.
A shaky breath. They look up and open their eyes. The sound that comes out of their friend is nearly lost to Eret as they immediately close them again. It hurt⌠so much. More of whatever was in their eyes fell down their face, wet and sticky. It trails into the corners of their mouth, leaving a salty⌠coppery tang on their tongue.
Blood and tears.
Fundy starts mumbling. Eret doesnât understand him. Everything around them fades out, sounds becoming muffled as if their head had been dunked underwater. Their stomach knots and their body sways. A dizziness takes hold, making their breathing short and head spin. They canât seem to catch their breath, every inhale shorter than the last as they struggle to breathe.
Eret digs their nails into their arms. They couldnât focus. Couldnât think.
The bag on their back is really heavy, teetering their balance.Â
Take it offâŚ
Cold, clammy, unsteady.
So much is overwhelming and yet thereâs nothing at all. The world is dark and quiet but the pain in their eyes reminds them theyâre still awake. The feeling of Fundyâs hands on Eretâs elbows trying to keep them uprightâŚ
They open their mouth as if to talk but all they can do is wheeze.
Breathe breathe breatheâŚ
A second passes and their knees buckle. Eret collapses against the ginger and before they even drop that far, they fall unconscious.
--
Eret moans as they wake up, body sore. Their head is fuzzy, mind vacant of thoughts. Everything is black and their awareness of their surroundings is gone. The only things they can tell are theyâre lying down, the bag is gone, and thereâs a weird pressure on their face. It rubs weird and keeps their eyes shut when Eret tries to open them.
The pain that follows only makes them whimper.
But then a voice⌠someone is talking to them. Itâs inaudible. Canât tell whoâs talking.
Shuffling followed by someoneâs hand on their shoulder.Â
They nod off as the person tries to get their attention.
--
The next time they wake up their arm is slung around someoneâs shoulder. An arm around Eretâs waist is whatâs keeping them upright as theyâre being partially carried, partially dragged through the forest.
Their foot catches on a root, causing them to stumble. Eretâs reaction is delayed to the point theyâre guided by the man carrying them, only barely managing to pull their foot away with the manâs help.
âCome on⌠..almost⌠..got this.â Fundy. Itâs Fundy carrying them.Â
Eret doesnât catch much of what the ginger says, only nodding in reply, hoping that itâs the right answer.
Fundyâs hold on them tightens.
--
Time passes as a blur. Unable to see, Eret is barely able to tell how long theyâre awake. Sometimes they fade to unconsciousness, sometimes theyâre aware and helping walk around. Their sense of direction has long since vanished as well, the brunette completely relying on the man carrying him.
Eret trips; their legs come out from under them. Fundy catches them, a death grip on the brunette.
âI gotcha.â
--
Fundyâs mumbling under his breath. Theyâre still moving, only much slower. Heâs messing with something at the same time, Eret can tell from the way the man is struggling to hold them up with one arm.
âCome on⌠Turn onâŚâ
--
âWhere the fuck is the path?â Fundy mutters.
--
âFuck fuck fuck fuck. Donât die, come on!â
--
Eret gets tugged along, Fundy seemingly more frantic than before. Heâs moving fast, trying to get the taller one around obstacles with less care than before. Panicked, almost.
Both hands are on Eret now. Tight, nails digging into their wrist.
The ginger breathes heavily and Eret can feel him shifting around, constantly looking back.Â
--
âEret, Eret wake up. Wake up right now.â
They lift their head, dazed and confused as they once again become aware. Their face scrunches up as they turn their head towards Fundy.
âWe gotta go, you gotta move,â Fundy hisses. He sounds freaked out⌠Eret canât figure out why. âYou gotta move.â He starts to pull them along, forcing them to get their feet going.
Caught off guard, they lose their balance. Fundy doesnât wait, not this time. He continues to tug Eret along, set on wherever their destination was. Forces Eret to get their act together and stay upright. They try their best, struggling quite a bit to keep up.
Eret manages to hold their own despite being unable to see. With their feet on the ground and the ginger guiding him around trees and undergrowth, the rush becomes easier. It gives them a chance to finally talk. âWhy are we-?â
Fundy shushes them. Pulls them along faster. âStop talking, just keep moving.â
They fall silent.
--
Eret didnât even realize they passed out again until theyâre suddenly being dragged along the forest floor. Arms wrap under their shoulders and around their chest; their feet trail through the brush and debris.
They lift their head. Barely moves much else, lulling in a fit of exhaustion.Â
Breathing is hard⌠really hard. Short, rapid, erratic. Canât get enough in canât take a deep breath why is it so hard to breathe?
They start to move but itâs sluggish. Weak hands reach up and try to pry the arms off.Â
Breathe⌠need to breatheâŚ
Fundy is quick to try and get them to stop. "Stop- stop it! Quit moving, you're only going to slow us down more!" His voice is low and hurried. It seems strained and distantâŚ
...is he running from something?
--
The brunette wakes up to being propped up against a tree. The two had stopped moving at some point. When, Eret wasn't entirely sure.Â
With Fundy no longer holding them up in some way, Eret assumes the guy had finally found them a place to stop so he could sleep. It only makes sense.
Rubbing their eyes, they come to find their face covered in bandages. The rough cloth was stark compared to the smooth skin they expected to feel. Carefully, they run their fingers along with the bandages. They're wrapped around most of the upper half of their head, concealing their eyes and ears.
Covering the horrible wounds that mar their face.
Lowering their hands, they find more haphazardly wrapped gauze around their shoulders. It pokes through their shredded shirt.
Makes them wonder just how bad it was.
Their hands shake as Eret pulls them away from their chest. So much so fastâŚ
The two just wanted to hike, to explore. And yet within hours, everything had gone to shit.
And now they have no idea what time it is or where they are or where Fundy is.
"Fundy?" They try to sit up further, looking around despite being unable to see. Somehow the darkness only makes the world lonely.
There's shuffling nearby followed by the crunch of leaves. "You're awake!" More movement and then a hand is on Eret's shoulder. "How are you feeling? You alright?"
A stupid question really.Â
Eret feels like shit. Constantly being jostled around while unconscious, waking up over and over and being forced to run⌠it's hard to feel alright after all of that. And yet, at the same time, they were in considerably less pain than before.
"I'm⌠okay?" They sound uncertain. "What happened?"
Fundy doesn't say anything at first. He seems lenient to explain and the silence has a weird air to it. It doesn't sit well with Eret.
Soon enough, the ginger says, "a lot. So much.â Thereâs a pause. âAfter we got thrown off the path by those birds we got lost and⌠and I tried to get back to the trail.â The hand falls away, fingers trailing along Eretâs shoulder before dropping entirely. âI couldnât find it. But! You slept pretty hard Iâm glad youâre alright.â
Eret frowns. That⌠Thatâs notâŚ
That didnât explain what happened every time Eret woke up. The carrying, the running, the dragging, none of it.
âWhat else?â they press, tone skeptical. âWe were running, right? Why did we run?â
And thereâs the hesitation again. Almost like Fundy doesnât want to answer him. âUh- It- It was nothing! Nothing really!â The man spoke quickly, voice pitching up at the same time. âJust thought I saw the path!â
Odd.
âWhere are we?â Eret asks.
Leaves crunch as Fundy moves. âSomewhere in the forest. I donât fucking know where.â He sighs. âI got lost last night⌠I have no fucking clue which way is what.â
Night.
âYou mean itâs morning now?â
âWell, yeah.â
< If you can't find the path, never stop moving at night. Rest during the day, run during the night. It hunts at night and if you stop, it will attack. >Â
The thoughts come back, whispering in their ears and latching on to Eretâs conscious mind. Paranoia and anxiety refuse to leave them alone, pushing for them to think about the short list. That horrid, horrid list.
< When the crows swarm, run. Do not let them injure you. It can smell the blood. >
Eret froze, their entire body growing tense. It's just a list, it can't be real. Some stupid post they saw one day that happened to stick with them. They're just paranoid.
< âWe gotta go, you gotta move,â Fundy hisses. He sounds freaked out⌠Eret canât figure out why. âYou gotta move.â He starts to pull them along, forcing them to get their feet going. >
They reach out, shaking hand finding itself on Fundy's shoulder. "Fundy," Eret says slowly. It earns a small hum. "What did you see?"
The voice that answers is quieter than usual. Small, frail almost. Vulnerable in a way Eret has never remembered Fundy being.
"I- I don't know."
--
The two ended up sleeping, exhaustion overtaking their need to stay awake and leaving them napping throughout the day. Though, more often than not, Eret finds themselves awake. Sitting propped against the tree, head resting against the truck as they stare up into the black expanse that is their vision.
They never were claustrophobic. Small spaces didn't make them feel too bad despite their height. Busses, trains, rooms⌠they were always fine. But the inky darkness that became their reality is constricting. It wraps around their body, suffocating them and leaving them to writhe and struggle in isolation.Â
But it's all mental. Up in their head in a world only they know; a world they'll never escape. The only signs of the toll the blindness takes on the man are the faint, quick breaths in and out. And with Fundy asleep somewhere nearby, there's no one there to see Eret holding themselves, lips pressed in a line as they try and stay calm.
If there weren't bandages over their face, maybe a trail of tears would adorn either cheek.
Shuffling makes them perk up. Drags them out of their head and forces them to pay attention to their surroundings. Something was moving nearby.
âFundy?â Eret calls quietly, just in case the man was still sleeping. The lack of a response is enough of an answer. âHello?â Now it was more directed to whoever or whatever was moving around.
Not like an animal could reply to them, but maybe someone was wandering off the path. Someone who could get them out of the damned forest. It was worth the shot.
When nothing answers them, Eret sighs and leans back against the tree. The small flicker of hope that ignited in their chest dwindles, snuffed out by the silence.
How far from the path are they anyway?
For all Eret knew, they could be ten feet away. Move around a couple of trees and there it would be. The man-made trail hikers travel on every day covered in sticks and decaying leaves, surrounded by beautiful plants and scenery and just⌠perfect.
But theyâll never know. Theyâll never know just how close they are to the stupid path because those fucking birds STOLE THEIR SIGHT.
They take a deep breath, nostrils flaring as their hands ball into tight fists. A second passes and they slam the side of their hand against the cold hard ground. Frustration and anger isnât a common emotion for Eret, it never has been. But sitting there with one of the most important senses ripped away from them, drowning them in a world of perpetual darkness⌠itâs starting to get hard to keep their emotions in check.
Sighing, they force themselves to relax, fingers uncurling and shoulders slouching. Thereâs no way the two of them are gonna be able to get out if they canât stay calm. With so little experience getting mad, thereâs no telling what could happen.
Tilting their head back, Eret stares up towards the sky. Wonders what it looks like⌠how the canopy must look with the yellow leaves dispersing the golden rays from the sun across the forest floor.Â
Shifting grass right next to Eret startles them. Itâs faint, only audible because of the silence that hovers in the clearing, and it confuses them. Sitting back up, they carefully reach their hand towards the sound.
They lower their hand, fingers outstretched as they try to touch whatever is there. It could be a rabbit. A fuzzy little animal just hopping around trying to find something to eat or somewhere to sleepâŚÂ
What they feel is not a bunny.
Slimy and boney, gnarled like a tree root but warm like a living creature. It writhes beneath their hand, moving around like a⌠a finger.
The sound that comes out of Eret is one of disgust and horror. A distorted scream rips through their throat as they try to pull their hand back only for whatever it was they touched to grab their wrist. A strong, wretched hand tightens its grip. Larger than a humanâs, nails sharper than should be possible. Digging into their wrist, slicing up the delicate skin.
They kick out, squirming in the thingâs hold as they try to shove it away.
âLet GO of me!â they shriek.
Their foot makes contact with something solid. A grunt follows and the grip loosens.
THUD.
The thing lets go, a warbled cry following suit. Heavy breathing can be heard above Eret before something heavy is dropped on the ground. Barely even a second passes before Fundy speaks, the man on the ground next to Eret with his hands on their shoulders.
He sounds breathless as he talks. âHey, hey itâs alright. Eret. Eret, look at me.â
Probably the worst thing someone could say to a blind man but it got the brit to react anyways. They turned their head slightly, hoping they were facing the right direction. They reach out, trembling hand finding a perch on Fundyâs arm. Once certain they were holding the ginger, their grasp tightens. A grounding.
âBreathe,â Fundy directs. âFor the love of God, please calm down. Itâs gone, youâre alright- weâre alright.â The reassurance is partnered with the gentle pull into a hug. Arms--human arms--wrap tenderly around their body. The ginger stays there despite the tension in the brunette, refusing to pull away until Eret finally melts, burying their head against Fundyâs shoulder as they return the gesture.
Fists ball into Fundyâs shirt and a choked sob rattles through the britâs body. The slow-motion of the ginger rubbing their back is joined by what sounds like his own struggle to keep from crying. Hiccuped inhales and steady exhales⌠Fundy was... TryingâŚ
Eventually, Fundy whispers, âitâs evening, we need to keep moving.â
--
Walking with the guidance of someone with sight is more off-putting than trying to learn a new language. At least, thatâs what Eret would compare it to. Itâs like relearning how to walk. Their perception of reality permanently altered, sense of balance destroyed, and their ability to perceive their surroundings forced to rely on their hearing and touch. But surrounded by a thick forest, theyâre more than thankful for how accommodating their friend is.
Fundy laughs quietly. âCome on, you know itâs true.â
Eret scoffs, wishing they could roll their eyes at the manâs stupidity. âI canât believe this is your focus right now.â
âWould you rather me talk about the fact weâre lost in a forest nearly out of food traveling in the middle of the night with no service, a dead phone, and your severe lack of a phone?â Fundy asks, voice deadpan. âPersonally, I think my Minecraft boyfriend is far more important.â
Using their free hand thatâs not wrapped around Fundyâs shoulder, the brit lightly punches the gingerâs side. âYou proposed to him with a diamond only for him to get possessed! And then he had a fucking baby and George claimed to be the father!â
âWELL,â Fundy started, âthatâs beside the point. Fuck you.â
Eret chuckles with a fond grin. Itâs nice, being able to have a normal conversation despite the impending doom of whatever the hell went after the brit back where they were resting.Â
A slight discomfort is felt on the back of their head, making them shiver. A weird feeling. One that sets them on edge and spikes their anxiety. But they ignore it, preferring to focus on Fundy.
"Can't believe you got engaged and your man had-"
"Help!" The distance cry of what sounds like a young child can barely be heard. At first, Eret thinks it may be a trick of the ears, the wind whistling just right through the leaves. But Fundy stops walking.
He heard it too.
The child calls out again and it sets in stone the reality of the situation. "Please! Help!"
The two adjust their course and start to make their way towards the voice. Stumbling through the undergrowth, tripping on loose plants, and smacking against low hanging branches.
< If you hear someone call for help, do not go to it. Itâs a trap. >
The wails grow louder but so does a weird smell. It makes Eret scrunch their nose, face contorting to one of disgust when they're first hit by the scent. "What the fu-"
Fundy shushes them, shutting them up. He doesn't clarify why, simply pulling the brit further along. Closer and closer to the cries of the young child.
"I want my mommy!" The kid cries, voice cracking with sadness.
The two come to an abrupt halt and the horrendous stench assaults Eret's senses. Malodorous and foul, it makes them gag as the smell becomes unbearable and so fucking strong they can taste it.
Eret covers their mouth, biting the inside of their cheek to keep from vomiting right then and there. Nothing could describe what they were experiencing. Nothing would ever be able to describe it. From everything theyâve dealt with in their lives, nothing prepared them for the sheer revulsion they were feelingÂ
Something they vaguely remember their mother telling them creeps into their mind.
< âYou never forget the smell of rotten human flesh or burning flesh. People say it haunts them for years.â >
They blocked that memory out years ago but now that theyâre standing there, struggling to keep their head clear because of the stench, they canât help but think about it again. Their head spins, dizziness growing as they reach up to cover their mouth.Â
Buzzing⌠Is that buzzing? Is all Eret can hear now that the child has gone silent. Loud and annoying, way too similar to the sound of a fly.
The tickling feeling of a bug landing on their hand is what confirms their suspicion. Shaking the bug off, they go to grumble a complaint but itâs drowned out by Fundyâs panic-stricken commands as the ginger drags them back.
âCome on- Eret work with me we need to fucking move right now.â He lets go of the brit, instead of focusing on grabbing their shoulders and spinning them around, shoving them back the way they came. Forces them to run--to get their legs moving.
The young child calls out again. âNo- wait- please! Come back! Whereâs my mommy?â
Fundyâs grip moves from Eretâs shoulders to their wrist, now pulling them along. Weaving between trees, ignoring their protests as they stumble around and run into branches. The two donât stop moving and soon enough, Eret figures out why.
Crashing follows them. Plants being trampled and branches being ripped apart. Distorted voices begging for the two to come back. Children, adults, boys, girls⌠all warping and twisting like a broken record.
âPlease, come back-â
â-not scary-â
âHurt you! We wonât!â
âCome backâŚâ
âI wanna go home.â
Heavy breathing⌠feet slamming against the hard ground⌠being yanked around every which way as Fundy navigates the forest. Getting them away from the thing chasing them, away from the horrible image Eret can only imagine had been laid out before them.
Their shoulder rams into a tree and the brit gasps and trips up, feet catching against the roots and making them stagger, nearly falling right then and there. The shocking pain that shoots down their arm disorients them. Hit right on the bandaged gashes from the birdsâ sharp talons.
It makes Fundy grab them by their upper arm, becoming a better support as their fleeing continues. âCome on, keep moving. We gotta keep going.â
Eretâs only response is a nod.Â
Move.
Keep moving.
A warbled shriek from behind makes them cringe. Panic and adrenaline. A rush to run. Get away.
Run.
Itâs the motivator that gets Eret to finally match Fundyâs pace, finally managing to ignore the obstacles in their way as best as they can. Trying to get away from the creature right on their tail.
âI think-â Fundy pauses for a moment. âI think I see something!â
A small spark of hope ignites in Eret. What the ginger sees, they have no idea, but that doesnât stop them from hoping. Maybe, just maybe-
An excited cheer comes from the ginger. âYes! YES! LIGHTS!â
Safety.
The two continue their push forward, exhaustion starting to set in and nearly making the brit slow down. But they canât. They canât. Theyâre so closeâŚÂ
Something grabs their ankle and tugs. Pulls their foot out from under them and sends Eret flying to the ground. They slip from Fundy's hold, falling into the dirt with a cry cut off by the wind being knocked out of them. They reach out, scrambling for purchase as the thing pulls them back. Nails did into the dirt, rip up small shrubsâŚ
They finally get their hands on something. A tree root. Rough bark digging into their skin, leaving small cuts as it scraped against their palms. "FUNDY-"
They kick, doing everything they can to hold onto the roots while trying to dislodge the creature. Itâs to no avail, the thing tugging and nearly making Eret let go. The bark shreds their hands and rips their nails. Makes them scream. Makes them almost lose their hold.
The ginger says something. What it is, Eret can't tell, but it vaguely sounded like "hold on."
No shit.
A pained, gargled cry, and then the creature let's go.Â
Fundy's helping them up now, getting Eret to their feet so they can keep running towards the lights. "They're so close, we're almost there!"
Breathing ragged, the brit does what they can to stay upright and focused on moving. It burnsâŚ
Their breath hitches when they run into another tree and it takes Fundy guiding Eret to put their arm around his shoulders for support to get them to ignore it.
It hurtsâŚ
Eret flinches when the ginger starts shouting. Presumably at whoever had the lights. They canât process the words but from what registers, the man seems just as hopeful as the brit.
The two slow down, finally done running. More hands find themselves on Eretâs shoulders and arms, more voices speaking up and talking all at once. The touch makes them snap into reality--makes them listen to whatâs going on.
The first thing they hear is Fundy. Breathless, happy, relieved. And a hand on their cheek as Fundy lets go of them⌠then theyâre pulled into a tight hug. A head buried against the crook of their neck, cold, shaking hands wrapped around their shirtâŚ
âWe did it,â Fundy whispers. âWeâre outâŚâ
Eret returns the embrace, limbs weak and movements slow. They refuse to let go. Even when the ginger begins to profusely apologize. On and on⌠and Eret refuses to listen.
Theyâre safe.
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Ranking : Christopher Nolan (1970 - present)
From the moment he kicked the door down on the scene with the breathtaking Memento, the name Christopher Nolan has rung synonymous with high thinking, high level and high entertainment film. He always finds fresh and unique ways to tell stories, be it visually, narratively, or some combination of the two, and many of his conceptual deep dives have opened real conversations in regards to different aspects of space and time. For an artist, the impact the Christopher Nolan has had on the populous as a whole is impressive, which is why after recently seeing Tenet, I felt it necessary to take a look back at all of his films and determine where they stood in relation to one another (in my eyes).Â
11. Insomnia (2002) As stated with every instance of ranking the work of a director, thereâs always one film thatâs got to take the bottom of the list hit, and for Nolan, it was Insomnia. The film in itself is not a bad one, and it does offer some strong visuals in regards to the unrelenting amount of sunlight that one experiences in Alaska, but it does suffer not only from being a remake, but a remake that pales in comparison to the original. For my moneyâs worth, Nolan works best with original ideas, with one specific trilogy standing as an exception to that notion.
10. Memento (2000) While not his debut film, this was the film that put Nolan on the map. The story is unique and intriguing, and the manner in which it is told really makes it work, as a standard A to Z telling of the film would eliminate much of the dramatic tension felt. That being said, this film suffers from a similar fate to that of films like The Sixth Sense : itâs cool the first time you see it, it really wows you the second time you see it, and then further viewings find diminishing returns in regards to the experience of the âgimmickâ (for lack of a better word). Definitely worth seeing if youâve never seen it, or are looking for a gateway into the work of Nolan, but underwhelming when held up against his future work.
9. Batman Begins (2005) As previously stated, Nolan (in my opinion) works best as a writer/director of original ideas, so like many, I was slightly surprised when he was tapped to handle the Christian Bale edition of the Batman movie canon. There wasnât so much doubt about his ability to pull things off visually, but with such a beloved franchise and character in his hands, there were thoughts about whether or not his style would translate in a way that an already dedicated fanbase would appreciate. Batman Begins was an effective table-setter for his Dark Knight trilogy, but due to the necessity of having to address an already familiar backstory, many of Nolan���s best ideas would have to wait until the sequel.
8. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) This film found itself the unfortunate victim of an all too familiar national tragedy in the form of a mass shooting during an early screening, forever putting a sort of black cloud over the film as a result. That being said, the film was a stellar entry in the Dark Knight trilogy, anchored by an instantly iconic Tom Hardy performance. If this film was attributed to any other director, it would possibly stand as one of their top works, but Christopher Nolan is a man of such depth and style that The Dark Knight Rises merely stands as above average output from a creator who is pulling back a bit to fit the Hollywood ideal (or his version, anyway) of a comic book film.
7. Following (1998) Quite possibly the most personal of all Nolan films, which makes sense, considering it was his first. It was the buzz that this film generated during the 1997 festival season, along with an already completed script for Memento, that turned Nolan from an aspiring director to a household name. Following gives us a bit of insight into Nolanâs creative process, presenting us with a highly stylized version of an observational writer, forever receptive to the stimulus around him. The look of the film displays Nolanâs eye for location and cinematography, and the non-linear nature of the story served as a sneak preview to a format of storytelling he would soon master and manipulate beyond our ability to initially understand. Though a bit on the short side for a feature film, it is certainly a fun ride with much indication of where its creator was headed.
6. Interstellar (2014) Throughout the 2010s, it seemed that Nolan was hell-bent on warping our brains through the entertainment medium, and after the warning blast that Inception was, Interstellar served as a sort of thematic and spiritual double-tap for our psyche. Nolan took the basic structure for a story of familial, unconditional love and skewed it by thrusting our protagonist into the uncharted depths of space, skewing his perception of time so radically that the people he loved became old while he did not age, which in itself is enough of a heartbreaking concept to build a film off of. Add to this the fact that we are presented with (to the best of our knowledge, anyways) the most photo-realistic depictions of a Black Hole and a tesseract, and the end result is a powerful genre-blending journey that stands in rare company, with films like Tarkovsyâs Solaris and Kubrickâs 2001 : A Space Odyssey serving as the closest points of comparison.
5. Tenet (2020) When you have a track record like that of a Christopher Nolan, it is inevitable that people are waiting on your downfall, and with 2020 changing the way we take in films, many tried to seize this opportunity and label Tenet as this moment in time. To me, this is an absurd stance to take... not only is Tenet one of the most intriguing films Iâve seen in years, but its efficiency in storytelling trims away so much fat that we are left with archetypical characters with subtle amounts of depth shepherding us through a narrative line that folds in and overlaps on itself numerous times. With this premise set and our characters deeply devoted to their functionality (though not at the expense of performance), we are left with the spectacle of some amazing choreography and in-camera special effects work that makes you really and truly have to stop at times just so you can try and process what it is you are seeing. Hopefully, in repeat viewings, the âgimmickâ wonât take precedence over the film itself, as I believe there is enough going on outside of the visual trickery to keep one interested time and again.
4. Dunkirk (2017) Itâs no secret that Christopher Nolan has the talent to build vast, textured and deeply imaginative worlds with his films, but up until the point of Dunkirk, Nolan had not attempted a âperiod pieceâ. Luckily for us film lovers, Nolan decided to try his hand at that style in the form of a war movie, and the result was the extremely moving and powerful experience of Allied troops in World War II caught in a situation where death seemed inevitable. Despite the vastness of the beach and sea we are shown, the feeling of being trapped permeates through and through, and it is enhanced by stellar cinematography and practical effects. Even with a cast full of familiar names and faces, the experience of hopelessness created soon eliminates the familiarity that comes with star power, and we are left with nothing but our investment in the story.  Â
3. The Dark Knight (2008) Simply put, The Dark Knight really has no business being as good as it is. Youâd think that its placement between the two trilogy bookends would give it a transitional nature, potentially only existing to move the story forward to its conclusion. What we are given, however, is one of the most nuanced looks at heroes, villains, anti-heroes, and just how much those roles can alternate based on the perspective of those applying the title. For all of the horror that the Scarecrow character brought, or the pure intimidation of Bane, The Dark Knight gives us a complex agent of chaos in the form of Heath Ledgerâs instantly iconic (and tragically final) performance as the Joker. All of the pacing issues that weigh down the other two films are completely absent in this middle offering, and the movie hangs around in your mind well after the final credits roll. To many viewers, this film set the artistic benchmark for what a so-called âcomic-bookâ movie had the potential to be.
2. Inception (2010) For many, Inception marks the culminative peak of all that Christopher Nolan brings to the table as a director and storyteller. His ability to coherently weave together a narrative that deals with the perception of time as one goes deeper and deeper into the psyche is impressive in its own right, but the amount of breathtaking nuance, visual effects and mental gymnastics used to tell the story would bring a lesser director to their knees. If The Revenant and 2015 served as the culmination of Leonardo DiCaprio finally receiving much-deserved recognition as an actor via an Academy Award, then Inception feels like the starting point for that final leg of his journey. Everyone brought their A-game to this table on both sides of the camera, leaving us with a true visual and storytelling spectacle for the ages.Â
1. The Prestige (2006) Irony is a funny thing... I bring that up because Christopher Nolan has literally taken on (and, in some ways, conquered) space, time and perception in his films, all of which would be incredibly lofty concepts to illustrate and visualize, let alone make entertaining. With all of that in mind, itâs ironic that his best film would be one that does not rely on all of the aforementioned lofty aspects and visual tricks. The Prestige, at a base level, is a story about jealousy and how it can drive you mad, but itâs the way that this story is told that makes it possibly the best film in the Nolan canon. Christian Baleâs performance (or performances, at the risk of spoilers) is enough to put this film in a class of its own, but the balance that Hugh Jackmanâs performance brings to the overall equation keeps you guessing on whom we are supposed to root for right up until the final frame. The triangle of love triangles in this film further serve to build up the eventual scale of damage that is presented when everything falls completely apart on both sides of the narrative coin. Most importantly, like any good magic trick, the film sets you up with expectations, only to wow you in the end. If you had to pick one Nolan film to watch, this would be the one that I recommend, hands down and without question.
Who knows where Christopher Nolan plans to take us next. I, for one, would not consider myself clued-in enough to hazard a guess on this, but I would almost certainly put money on the fact that wherever he chooses to take us, he will entertain us and amaze us, if not both at the same time, as he always does.
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